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Serra angel edition
>playing
>hating
>brewing

>RESOURCES:
>Comprehensive Rules
>http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/resources/rules/MagicCompRules_21031101.pdf

>Current Modern Metagame
>http://mtgtop8.com/format?f=MO
>https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/modern

>DATABASES:
>magiccards.info
>gatherer.wizards.com

>thread q's
What card would you like to be playable in modern?
Whats your favorite card?
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And this time too I didn't get a Lili. I suppose I should be satisfied, though, it could have ended much worse than this.

Someday I'll get a pack fresh Lili.
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I wish Birthing Pod hadn't been banned. I only got into Modern recently and it seems like it was a fun deck
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>>57397676
Fuck pod. Broken ass artifact. Just build one for casual play
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>>57397808
The virgin tron and the chad burn
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>>57397705
Maybe I should but I can only play on Xmage
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Any cards that you want to see unbanned or banned?

Personally I would just have Ancient Stirrings banned.
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>playan
4 color humans. Just got off BW hatebears and the change has been excellent, way easier to pilot and I don’t feel like an asshole for GQing people so often
>hatan
Storm
>brewan
A soulflayer deck with that new white elder Dino from RIX
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>>57398236
I think Splinter Twin should be unbanned. As for bans, I don't know, but I really dislike playing against super agressive decks so frequently some nights.
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>>57398482
>unban twin
Are you being ironic or just stupid?
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>>57398236
Ban Liliana, Snapcaster and Karn.
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>>57397448
>most expensive fetch, snap and DS

That's a really good one though.
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>>57398515
Even wizards admits they banned it for a stupid reason.
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>>57398522
>paid €220 (lowest price in Europe)
>value of cards €180
Yep, a very good one.

No but really the only thing I cared about was getting a Liliana, I didn't care about losing money.
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>>57398515
There was literally nothing wrong with Twin you filthy Tron player
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>>57398703
So just buy 4 lilis. its was the same price as what you paid
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>>57399486
Hey, man, that unfair. I play Tron and I want Twin back. I don't even know why people meme that Tein shat on Tron. All you have to do is side in Remand. The Teim player never expects it
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>>57400344
>UTron
Not a real Tron deck dude, it's actually a fun and respectable build instead of the ol' anus-ramp golem slamming that we all reminisce fondly of
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>>57400571
You do realize the Gx Tron has access to every colour right?
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>>57400660
Imho feeding Stirrings and Scrying is still gay, the fact that extra colors are almost free for you allowing sideboard Remand pedantry is doubly gay

t. Condescendfag
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>tfw winning against tier decks with my superfriends brew
Nothing like making opponents rage quit the match in game one because I can remove anything they play.
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>>57401385
I run seven ORings mainboard in enchantress, how many does superfriends carry?
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>>57398515
>Are you being ironic or just stupid?
Go back to standard kid. WotC admitted twin was banned only to play with the pro tour meta and not because it was degenerate.
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>>57401116
Fun fact: every deck can run city of brass or mana confluence. Anybody can sideboard anything of they wanted to
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>>57401905
True, but only true in the most pedantic of definitions. Sure you get some white sideboard cards, maybe some lifegain cards for burn, but are you really getting the same bang for your buck? So lifegain cards in the sideboard is off the table, who gives a shit right?
I'm down for a rainbow deck, but with only 8 copies of the mana source you need, that Wear/Tear you bring in also needs to combine with 1 of 8 copies out of 60. So fuck 8 lands, go full rainbow with Gemstone Mines and Orchards, or Vivid lands, and carry the downsides of each of them?
tl;dr rainbow landpool is too small to have enough cohesion except in fringe cases (tribal memes and jeskai ascendancy memes, since cavern and gemstone fill out slots
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>>57400026
This.
I love opening stuff, but if you're after something specific, buying it direct it really the best way.
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>>57401571
My list has none.
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Does anyone have that Spirit Tribal list we all made together?
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>>57398521
Honestly I'd ban Liliana if I could, not because I think she's too strong or unfair, but for variety. I have decks that I can't justify not using her in, but I'd be happier if I could play around with other cards in those slots.
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Numagic is pretty ass, but DAMN if this isn't a cool magical card
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>>57403309
8 mana 5/5 that dies easily
nice
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>>57403309
Move over buddy
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>>57403309
>>57403466
>created a very powerful shell on the bridge of T 1.5
>shell is a brewers paradise, so many different builds of the deck that has seen success
>not to mention it's fun as fuck and isn't a mindless dump your hand-style aggro
>with the way Wizards prints creatures, it's only going to get better from here
Cuck Rat and dinos can eat my ass.
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>>57403137
What is it? I want to know.
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>>57398521
>banning Karn

Focusing on the symptom.
Ban tron instead.
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>>57402404
Or you could just fetch an off color shock. It ain't that hard anon. Burn does it all the time for destructive revelry
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>>57403309
So if you have aether flash in play do you just get infinite raptors?
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>>57397676
It was a beautiful deck, and definitely the most fun to play in Modern history.

Thanks, Siege Rhino.
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>>57398236
I would ban Blood Moon, Rest in Piece, maybe Leyline of Sanctity.

Pretty tired of these "hate" cards. They're poorly designed and they completely destroy format diversity.

Thalia is bad enough.
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>>57404414
Just play standard if you don't like interaction
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>>57404467
I mostly play Cube and Vintage.

Standard is all right, sometimes, I guess.
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>>57404498
There is no way you play Vintage and yet complain about hate. Get the fuck outta here with that tryhard bullshit
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>>57404414
>I would ban Blood Moon
So fucking 5c good stuff runs over Modern?

How diverse.
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>>57404414
You are such a fag, holy shit
>wanting any of those cards banned
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>>57403309

This was shit when you argued about how viable it was on Reddit and it's shit now.
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>>57398521
>Liliana
She's not even a 4x anymore in anything but 8Rack.
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>>57404414
do you actually play mtg?
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FNM reports, lads?

Played Mardu Pyromancer and went 3-0 against Abzan Midrange, GDS, and Tron. Ended going 6-1 in all games.
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>>57403353
>playing timmy-johnny hybrid cards fairly
I was thinking it wins the game somehow ala splintertwin. The cmc is fucking bonkers though
>>57404346
That would unfortunately tie the game as endless raptors flooded from the aether
>>57404701
>implying I use reddit
Ha, you've outed yourself!!
WE GOT A REDDITOR OVER HERE FOLKS, REDITOR REDITOR!
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>>57403466
that's not numagic that's like Torment 2
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>>57405192
At the risk of sounding really stupid,

could you use an instant removal spell to kill the initial raptor after say, token number 983,401,324?
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>>57405221
I wasn't inferring that Pack Rat was numagic though.
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>>57405250
That wouldn't do anything.
New raptors enter regardless of if the original dies with that loop.
That is if I'm understanding your question correctly
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>>57405192
>moon stompy with TTB+Sneak Attack+this+Impact Tremors+that raptor

i'd play it. you can take as long as you want to set up janky magic cards when your opponent can't play. i mean it's a legacy deck because that card and SA are legacy cards but still i love prison and combo jank.
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>>57405447
>>57405291
>>57397322
You guys got tips for a new commer going to the pre release? I'm not sure how should I build the deck, just based on the strongest cards I get?
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>>57406162
Look over the spoilers for the set before you go and try to find cards you might enjoy playing with to look out for when making your deck.
Other than that, I can't give any more advice seeing as I've never bothered going to a prerelease; sealed and draft just isn't for me.
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>>57406229
Okay thanks for the heads up, yeah I'm only doing it cause of my friends otherwise I wouldn't do it

Is there ever a time buying a box is better than singles?
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>>57406260
The only time is if you're planning on drafting with it.
If you're only playing constructed you should never buy a box.
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Do you people play with cards in different languages or is it plain English?
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>>57406569
Its like you guys keep giving me an excuse to post these
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>>57406569
I like German cards they sound menacing
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>>57405192
>I was thinking it wins the game somehow ala splintertwin
It might be usable in Standard. Ramp as much as possible and combo with Forerunner of the Empire
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Why are Italian cards cheaper than English?
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>>57406991
We had this discussion last thread. Italian is a fucking ugly language that doesnt even have cool cards
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>>57407041
>Wurmspiralmaschine

Sounds cool as fuck desu
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>>57407050
Wurmspiralmaschine is the best German card.
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>>57405192
That's why you have Warstorm Surge.
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>>57404656
>So fucking 5c good stuff runs over Modern?
Death's Shadow and Humans are already doing just that.
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>>57400026
>>57402929
What's the satisfaction in that? I want to open it from a pack.

And by the way a mint copy of Liliana is already at 72+shipping on magiccardmarket. That's €290+shipping for 4 cards (no one seems to sell playsets at that price).
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>>57407041
>>57406991
>samefagging
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>>57408421
Here's your (You) Mario
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>>57408434
>butthurt Fritz discovered Photoshop
Cute.
Your language will always be shit, now go eat a weisswurst with rotten krauts.
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Can anyone comment on the cardboard quality of Rivals of Ixalan? The prerelease was last night. Did WOTC finally fix the quality?
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>>57408456
>Being this booty blasted

Whatever makes you sleep better grease ball
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>>57408572
Golden coming from a beer belly with stick legs.
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>>57408606
Sure thing Guido
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>>57404082

I'm not a fan of Tron at all but I hate seeing a deck build just get killed like how Twin did. Would restricting the Tron lands have a strong enough effect?
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>>57408673
Cool story Ghunter.
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>>57408748
u mad Francesco?
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>>57408834
No, I love Germans.
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>>57408736
It would reduce the feelbads from natural Tron. Although most of time they’re tutoring for the individual lands so it’s not as important. I suppose land destruction would certainly be better.
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>>57408834
>>57408748
Just fuck already!
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>>57408673
>guido
You called?

no ones going to get this reference
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>>57409035
Sinkhole that hits nonbasics and only nonbasics?
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>>57409711
Everyone and their mother have seen 8 and a half.
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>>57408421
Kek, not even fucking close. Learn from Mussolini, and acknowledge German superiority
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>>57410287
Learn from Hitler and kill yourself.
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>>57408395
so you would have 290 worth of cards for 290
instead of 180 for 220

and you still need to shell out the 290 anyway...
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>>57403309
nice 8 mana target for dismember, lol

if it copied on being targeted it would almost be playable, but still no trample

why would I ever cast this over Reality Smasher?
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>>57410762
I don't even play...
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>>57407748
last 2 winning decks were scapeshift and control
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>>57407748
Then why ban an anti greedy lands card if it is not even good enough to stop 5c?
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9 packs of original Innistrad in English for €91. Should I buy?
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>>57411603
Forgot to mention.
My fear is that they opened a box, pulled a Liliana and decided to sell the remaining packs full price.
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Does she see play? If not, can she see play? I think she sounds pretty good.
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>>57411603
>>57411626
Never buy loose packs of older sets. Resealing has gotten near perfect to the eye and you can only tell by the glue.

If you wanna crack something, grab a box of Kaladesh or something.
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>>57411871
It's so tempting though.
If only it was Summer I could go in person. It's too damn cold to travel for hours by motorcycle.
>Resealing has gotten near perfect to the eye
Video?
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>>57411871
Oh, yeah, and I would be protected by eBay's policy. From what I'm told it works. I'd also keep the cards after I get the money back.
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>>57411974
Not him, i guess thisi s relevant.
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>>57412325
t. retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6WYqInEflI&t=377s
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>>57411851
Literally does nothing: The planeswalker
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>>57412352
I already saw that, those are shitty resealing.
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>>57412644
You need to open it to notice and even then if you are guillible lad who doesn't expect to get hosed, the way most people open packs is open the top and slide down, many don't ever open the bottom, that's what these reseals are banking on.
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>>57413306
Yeah but you can easily tell it's been resealed, it has fucking tape.

I think I'll buy the packs if I can pay with paypal an get buyer's protection. In the end it's not even 100 bucks, it's not like I'll go bankrupt.
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>>57413452
I have no experience on the field, but what he said was impossible to tell until you open them. I don't know if there is better out there.
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>>57410889
????
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>>57413470
Doesn't matter even if you open them you're protected by paypal if it's a scam.
Also if you know beforehand you can check if there's tape.
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>>57413521
Just remmeber that only because you pulled nothing doesn't mean it's a scam, don't fuck an honest seller over.
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>>57413701
Paypal's protection literally works so you could do that multiple times and get away with it.
>>57413513
What is it about that you don't understand?
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>>57413786
If you don't play why are you buying cards?
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>>57411851
Yes. She has a place in sultai.
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>>57397676
It was something special alright. Still miss it.
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>>57413797
Because I collect them. I like to open packs. What's so strange?
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>>57413938
Why open expensive packs when you could open cheap packs? If you collect the cards, why not play the game?
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>>57413938
>What's so strange
what isn't?
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>>57413953
Because I have money I don't use and only care about good cards. I've been buying since 2000 but stopped in 2005 and came back now thanks to Rudy.
I'mma start playing pauper but the people who play the game are insufferable, they're all spergs one way or the other.
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>>57414198
You might be the most autistic person here, and this is the Modern general.
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>>57414243
It's pretty normal, it's called collecting.
I also buy volumes of manga I already read for free just because I like the manga. I have over a thousand volumes.
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>>57414338
Yes, but you've read them. Not your copies, but you've read the series. Why would you collect expensive cardboard for a game you don't play, then post about it online in a thread discussing the game? You can say this is normal all you want, but it isn't.
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>>57414198
>>57414338
So are people like this why prices are so high?
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Where's the best place to trade cards online
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>>57414436
Because to me it's more interesting than the game, I'm a collector/hoarder. Investing too is much more interesting than the game.
The game is a collateral aspect.
>>57414446
Cry more. I'm not the one selling Masters sets for 200 with less packs. I don't even understand how WOTC can get away with this, you guys must be fucking retarded, they're making fools out of players and laughing while doing it.
>now we're gonna sell this cardboard for a premium price so that Modern can become cheaper
Worthy of a facepalm.
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>>57414514
Why not collect something else? Why collect trading cards to not play with them? I'm not trying to stop you, it's just that it's so weird that I want to understand.
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>>57414514
Toys want to be played with, anon. Please play with them.
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>>57409721
Or they could just reprint Wasteland???
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>>57414514
>I'm not the one selling Masters sets for 200 with less packs
>you guys must be fucking retarded
We're not the ones buying a box of a Masters set; you are.
WOTC makes no money from the secondary market, which is all that constructed players buy from.
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>>57414571
But to me opening packs and collecting is basically playing, that's where I get my enjoyment from.
>>57414564
Because I like the cards. Or rather I used to like the art of the cards. Nowadays it's all digital crap. When I started back in 00 with Planeshift and Apocalypse and later 7th the art and the flavor was what got me into it. I remember how I loved the art for Thorn Elemental or Visara later, when I opened a pack fresh Visara I was ecstatic. I also got a fetch while hunting for Visara and didn't give a single fuck lol.
>>57414969
But I care only relatively about the price of Modern, players do care much much more than me,
>WOTC makes no money from the secondary market, which is all that constructed players buy from.
This is how I know you don't understand how everything works.
>strong secondary market=more stores=more places where people can play=more players=more $ for WOTC
I guess you'll say you don't need stores to play. We can all meet at your house, sorry, in your mom's basement, right?
Until the push REAL hard for digital the secondary market will be essential. The problem with this is that Magic is already an established physical game.
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Can you imagine being so autistic that you go to a specialized thread for a game you don't even play just to argue with people who do play it?
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>>57415788
Must keep someone entertained
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>>57415788
I come here because I wanna start playing and for all the rest. Do you not buy the cards? If you do we do the same thing and that's why I'm here. There are no threads for magic other than the generals, unless a new set is coming out.
There are many things more autistic than that, for instance not understanding why someone who doesn't play comes here.
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>>57415395
What anon means is that secondary market prices mean very little to Wizard's profits.
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>>57416252
Not in the grand scheme of things, they're pretty fundamental.
Goddamit Rudy did a video on it just yesterday explaining why it's important for the fucking 1000th time.
No stores=no players. No players=no sales. It's a symbiotic relationship and they're killing the stores right now.
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Just played my second prerelease.
I love playing modern, but those limited ecents are pure garbage. All those thrash cards. Most aren't even playable in limited. Why do they even print all this garbage? Just feels bad loosing and going home with all this unplayable (even in standard) garbage.
Never again, i'm saving those 25€ and invest in my modern decks.
Fuck this dino pirate meme shit.
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>>57416498
Wait til Dominaria, that should be better. Fuck this Timmy crap.
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>>57413884
Sultai what
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>>57416597
>wait until the next set to do another prerelease
well yeah
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>>57416597
>He thinks things will be different when the name of the set is different!
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>>57416634
Sultai crap
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>>57416341
95% of all paper magic happens at kitchen tables.
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>>57416666
Garfield made it. Nice quads, but you bring shame to them.

>>57416671
I can see it as a 2x
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>>57416690
It doesn't matter if Richard Garfield is there or not. Nu-WotC simply won't allow cards like Lightning Bolt and Day of Judgement to be in standard.
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>>57416690
wait, they actually got richard on board for dominaria?
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>tfw you beat Affinity game one with superfriends
Nahiri and Lili did the heavy lifting, Sorin finished it.
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>>57416666
It's really almost the last call for WOTC. With the bans, the pedo thing, the shitty standard and Iconic masters they're in the worst position ever.
>>57416674
95% of people that play kitchen table are not relevant saleswise.
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>>57416252
My store still sells Morningtide packs stuck on their shelves because they're mostly worthless.
Meanwhile Tarkir was goneone week after they stopped sending packs.

If wizards wants packs to sell, which they do, then they need to print enough good cards but not enough to kill their value.
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>>57416807
heres an idea
>biyearly masters set
>contains important reprints of staple cards (bob, goyf, ect)
>Shifts in rarity so that the cards that need to be brought down in price are brought down

>>57416710
fucking burn all of nu-RnD down and replace them all, give standard some teeth back with interesting reprints.

Fuck MaRo and the high horse he rode in on
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>>57416887
>>biyearly masters set
No. Just lower the price so that people will buy more boxes. Just sell them for a 100.
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>>57416806
I think you're fucking wrong. 19 timmies popping packs once a week is more valuable to wotc than 1 store buying a case to "invest" in.
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>>57416715
Yes. It's been the light at the end of the standard hell hole tunnel. Now to find out if even this will matter in the end. I hope it does.
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>>57416987
part of me is hoping of reprints from non modern sets , i know it wont happen but maybe stuff like serendib efreet, impulse, maybe he could bring back regen and landwalk?
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>>57416970
>19 timmies popping packs once a week is more valuable to wotc than 1 store buying a case to "invest" in.
Lolno. Are you for real? Money is money. Timmy doesn't spend as much as a store or a competitive player that plays limited.
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>>57417028
combined? they absolutely do. You're not getting how many more 3 pack a week timmies exist than all other demographics combined.

You're right, money is money. But you're wrong about what that means here.
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>>57417081
Retention is more important than selling a couple packs. Especially when you can do both.
Spike buys the singles from the store, that means mass box openings, much more money than some packs.
This is hilarious.
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>hardcasting leyline of sanctity the turn before gary
>remembering that he doesn't target
dang
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Cockatrice.wooger is down, use cockatricebackup.woogerworks.com

That said, they're shutting down Xmage at the end of the month.
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>>57417155
"Invest" in magic, please.
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>>57417610
I don't need you to tell me, Timmy.
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>>57417581
>That said, they're shutting down Xmage at the end of the month.
Wait really?
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>>57405133
4-0 with pic related
2-1 ur breach
2-0 ub mill
2-0 esper control
2-1 naya humans
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>>57417581
Unsurprising. Arena won't fly unless they kill every other alternative. That's why they're messing with LGS and MOL leagues have been failing lately.
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>>57417581
Any other alternatives? I don't like cockatrice with randos because we argue about rules too much.
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>>57417581
>XMage shutting down
That basically kills magic for me, I'm not willing to deal with retards on cuckatrice/untap and Arena will cost money.
How do you even get into arena? Is there a chance of being in the beta without getting a priority ticket?
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>>57418194
Won't Arena be free?
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How bad would it be to temporarily replace Thoughtseize and Inquisition with Lightning Bolt and Duress in my meme deck to save money?
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>>57418249
Good cards will cost money I imagine. Also I'm worried about holding priority, it was fucked in the last Duels.
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>>57405133
Went today and they were only doing RIX sealed.

I begrudgingly stayed, did what you do in Ixalan limited (see what tribe has best cards, you play tribe, you hope opponent has worse tribe cards), went 2-2 and went home.

Ixalan block will go down as one of the most boring sets in Magic history.
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>>57418254
If you want Toughtseize this is the time to buy it, it's at a low.
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>>57418254
How is bolt related to those?
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>>57418271
>Good cards will cost money I imagine
What makes you say that?
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>>57418304
How low? I have $50 and I need 4 copies.

>>57418321
Deck is RBW
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>>57418326
Magic Online. Or worse, it'll be like Magic Duels where you could only have 2 copies of a rare.
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>>57418346
It will be Standard, why only 2 copies? From what I heard it'll be free.
>>57418330
They just reprinted it in Iconic, it's only gonna go up from now, everyone uses it.
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>>57418396
Standard only? What about other formats? How will they give cards?
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>>57418410
Dude why the fuck are you commenting on something you know nothing about? Arena will be free Standard, basically. Obviously they'll find a way to make money but the cards should be free from what I understood.
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>>57418410
Yes standard only. Right now it's Ixalan only actually
No other formats for the foreseeable future
You get a pittance of currency for wins and quests heartstone style which you can use to buy packs.
It's free to play in only the strictest sense of the word, I'll be impressed if you can even get all the cards from one set before the next set releases.
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>>57418473
When they said it was replacing Magic Online, I assumed it would be an actual replacement, not "fuck you play standard"
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>>57418512
That's really gross. Why would they kill MODO for that?
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>>57418553
they're not killing MTGO
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>>57418603
Someone said they were.
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>>57417581
>XMage going down
Well, it was fun, guess I'm out of modern.
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>>57418473
>the cards should be free
Winning games gives you points to buy boosters. Boosters are 3 commons, 2 uncommons and one rare/mythic. You can have more than 4 copies of a card. There is no trading or p2p economy.

They literally expect you to grind until you can build the deck you want out of pure fucking luck, and if you can't win with the pile you can build from the free boosters they give you at the start (30 for each set from Kaladesh to Rivals of Ixalan), you don't get points to buy new boosters so you need to pay in cash.
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>>57418658
They can't kill MOL without getting in a massive lawsuit.
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>>57418785
I guess that's better than nothing but still.
Is XMage open source? Can someone just make a copy and host it themself?
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>>57418760
>You can have more than 4 copies
>There is no trading
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>>57418760
it's 5 commons
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>>57418809
Maybe in a couple years. Right now Hasbro will be headhunting anything that can compete with Arena. I wouldn't even be surprised if they ask Tappedout to remove their goldfishing app.
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>>57418820
There's going to be dusting they just haven't released it yet
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>>57418826
So the question becomes whether to spend $1000+ on just one of the modern decks I play, spend slightly less on MTGO, or find a group that will let me proxy the majority of my cards?
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>>57418850
>$1000+ on just one of the modern decks I play
???

Do you play foil Jund?
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>>57418881
I play a meme pile that I brewed myself. It looks like a piece of shit but it works amazingly well and surprisingly consistently.

What are some good cheap decks?
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>>57418906
Hollow One shell will last you years
Storm
Merfolk
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>>57418881
I've got eternal command and that's well over $1000 with no foils. It's all staples for other decks though.
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>>57418940
Storm is cheap?
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>>57418960
Very
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>>57418976
How very is very? What's the best storm?
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>>57418960
Very cheap. Most expensive playset in the deck is 4x Vents
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>>57418976
>>57419003
Are scalding tarns necessary?
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>>57419016
no
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>>57419031
What's a good budget list?
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>>57418760
This shit is fucking retarded. I lost all the hipe I had.
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Tell me about the stupidest ways you've lost games

>Playing against Kikki-jiki combo
>Have pithing needle on Kikki and a greater gargondon in play
>Slaughter Games naming.... Cryptic Command!
>I forgot about the Harvest Pyre in his hand
>loots off desolate light house then burns for 7 to kill GG

>bolt in a 3rd red mana for Goblin Dark Dwellers (3RR)
>didn't even need it as the fifth mana, it was my 7th land
>lose to exact damage from triple reality smashers
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What are your favorite three-color combinations to play with in general? Not necessarily what you think are the best/strongest.

My favorites are Bant and Jeskai.
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>>57419161
Abzan and Esper
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What's the best cheap (or budget version) deck (preferably under $75) that's a base for a real deck that I can turn it into over time? 8 rack?
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>>57419200
Monored burn
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>>57419212
Best list?
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>>57419226
Anything not running guides if you want to stay under $100.00. Eidolon is the next most expensive card around $9 a piece.
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>>57419252
Is the full non-budget mono-red burn modern viable or am I building it up into Naya?
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>>57419266
You'll want to upgrade to Boros or Naya when you finally do. Mono red has struggles that those decks don't.
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>>57419161
Jund and Sultai.
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>>57419311
Naya is creature-based and Boros is mostly spell/ability damage, right?
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>>57419161
Jund, Mardu, Bant
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>>57419111
I've got a pretty good one from last week
>running chalice-less E-tron into affinity
>game 3 has devolved into topdeck wars, slowly dying to inkmoth nexus
>have platinum angel & matter reshaper out
>opponent has manlands and steel overseer out
>we're the only unfinished match this round, getting ansy
>swing with everything, angel gets double blocked by the inkmoth nexus', opponent pumps one with blinkmoth and both with overseer

I honestly didn't see the line, but I'm kicking myself for losing my patience
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>>57419329
Naya gives you Atarka's command mostly, with Destructive Revelry in the side. People used to use Wild Nacatl in Naya, but that has fallen by the wayside.
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>>57419161
My favorite deck of mine is Mardu, out of actual competitive decks I enjoy Jund. I usually prefer monocolored or two colors, so I don't care about the rest.
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>>57419360
I assume Naya is more expensive when completed?
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>>57419374
Yeah, the difference between a two color manabase and a three color.
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>>57419390
I might just do Boros and then use the manabase to go into other color combos. I'm not a big fan of Naya decks.
Thanks for the help!
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>>57419189
Patrician taste anon
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A friend of mine is heavily invested in soul sisters for whatever reason, but is getting bored of mono-white so I brewed him a RW version. Does this list present any glaring problems to anybody off the bat, or does it seem solid?

Creature (27)

4x Ajani's Pridemate
1x Archangel of Thune
4x Champion of the Parish
4x Norin the Wary
3x Ranger of Eos
4x Soul Warden
4x Soul's Attendant
3x Thalia's Lieutenant

Land (21)

3x Clifftop Retreat
4x Inspiring Vantage
3x Mountain
6x Plains
4x Sacred Foundry
1x Windbrisk Heights

Instant (12)

4x Boros Charm
4x Lightning Bolt
4x Path to Exile

Sideboard (15)

1x Blood Moon
2x Deflecting Palm
2x Mirran Crusader
2x Rest in Peace
2x Return to the Ranks
2x Stony Silence
2x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2x Wear/Tear


The sideboard is sort of tentative for now, deflecting palm is a pet card for him so I squeezed it in but I'd prefer the slots contain an additional blood moon and maybe a third Thalia
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>>57419406
honestly it isn't even that bad splashing green in boros burn for revelry. just put a stomping ground or two in and your fetches should take care of it.
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>>57417675
>>57417581
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>>57419440
Sweet. Maybe I'll finally be able to play in paper soon-ish. Can't imagine winning FNM with monored but I'm moving soon so maybe the new meta will be casuals.
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>>57419463
you don't win with monored, but you do win with naya/boros burn
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>>57415909
Well if you want to start playing the game then ask some questions to start a discussion, don't blogpost about your fucking MM pulls.
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>>57419161
I'm an esper/abzan dude myself
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>>57419458
>>57417581
Oh, you meant the one server. Be clearer next time.
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>>57419111
>playing against Eternal Command
>fighting two 2/3 Goyfs
>opponent casts something, Spell Queller gets it
>he swings with both Goyfs
>Paths one Goyf and block the other with Queller
>we realize that Path in the graveyard makes the other one a 3/4 now
>mfw all that tempo loss
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>>57419745
You let them justify the "Goyf is mythic because of complexity" meme.
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I have $80 to spend, is now the time to buy a playset of Thoughtseize?
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>>57419770
Delirium on static abilities is a thing in SOI and EMN. Goyf is mythic because of $$$, just like how Dark Confidant, Bitterblossom, and Snapcaster Mage are.
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>>57419811
yeah, probably
it's gonna be a while before another reprint
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>>57419883
It'll be weird to build budget 8 rack with the full 4 Thoughtseize, but it's a good weird. Lets me skip the super jank.
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>want to play faeries
>look up lists
>it's just jund but "hey we're playing bitterblossom"
ok
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>>57419906
so get inquisition or duress then cuckboi
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>>57419923
I said it's a good weird, didn't I? I'll use Duress and Thoughtseize while I save money for Lili.
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>>57419908
>can't believe a deck is using all the goodstuff in the colors it's in
ok
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>>57419584
Yeah, this.
I literally don't give a fuck if the Woogerworks server goes down, I never played on it anyways
However, if it was the whole client being discontinued and all the servers going down I'd lose my mind.
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>>57419161
Sultai and Esper.
A lot of my favorite combo decks I've played with tend to be in those colors for some reason.
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>>57419908
Faeries is very different from Jund. Every deck that uses push, liliana and seize Jund for you?
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>>57420214
yes actually

though i originally meant grixis

got jund on my mind man
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>>57419161
Jeskai. Boros + U never fails to entertain.
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>>57397322
>playing
BG Rock

>hating
The Hollow One meme deck that's currently doing the rounds.

>brewing
Nothing.
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>>57419418
Thanks dude.
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>>57419424
Look into the mtgsalvation primer for Norin Sisters, there's probably more info to be had there than here.
My only qualms with the list are 4 Boros charm (sweet card but needs gas to go alongside with, drawing multiples could feel bad), what are your thoughts on 2 of em instead?
That and Thalia's Lt, she's a pretty cool choice just the 3of seems off to me, I would personally see to her as a 1-2of as extra copy of Parish
Kher keep is dope tech

A Purphoros is neat but expensive (and the 4drop slot seems good here so up to you), Lightning Berserker is cool 1of tech, people like 2-3 Genesis Chamber and 1 Legion Loyalist. Auriok champ is neat and cheaper (sb maybe?), impact tremors, spirit bonds, spear of heliod, outpost seige are all fine meme cards

Personally i'd go for Enduring Sisters memecombo but Norin has ten times more shit going on
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>>57419424
Here's my old Norin Sisters deck that I used to run.
The only change I'd make with mine is to bring in a Purphoros somewhere but even that isn't necessary since Impact Tremors does a pretty good impersonation.
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>>57419049
the list that doesn't use fetches, it actually has shown better results than the one with fetches.
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>>57419908

First of all, wrong, even if you meant grixis.

Second of all, the deck sucks because it's too reactive in the wrong ways. You end up with a board state where their side is probably mostly clear and you've got a 3/1 flier and a spellstutter sprite in hand.

I got more wins with manlands and Lili than with the actual bitterblossom tokens. It's still fun but the deck has too many games where it's obvious you're going to lose by the end of the second turn just because of the sheer amount of catchup you have to do.
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>>57421294
Norin can crew vehicles right?
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>>57419161
Jeskai. I don't actively look to play Jeskai decks, but in practically every format those colors are the ones that have the options I like. Bant is right behind it, though
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>>57422438
That's why I have Copter in the deck.
Crew him in response to the exile and actually have a pretty decent beater.
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>>57422769
Yeah that's hilarious and sweet utilizing Norin on all fronts, the allstar 1drop.
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I don't really play modern but since people at my lgs keep asking me to attend I need some help, see pic. I know it's not going to be a good deck but I just wanna see everyones face when play it.

I'm really not up to date with the modern metagame or even all the cards so all suggestions are welcome. For cards I was thinking along the lines of;

Lotus Bloom
Wood Elves
Tireless Tracker
Siege-Gang Commander
Eternal Witness

Maybe some of the Oaths and probably Bogarden Hellkite for the kill.

But this is mostly based on how we used to build it and it was a meme deck then too.

What's new that might fit in this?
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>>57423434

Their face isn't going to be anything because they're never going to see you cast it. You'll be dead five turns before that point.
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>>57423434
If your meta is even a little competitive I doubt you'll ever cast it.
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>>57423481
Really, modern has turn 1-2 kills these days? Cause we usually could get this go off at turn 5 back then.
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>>57423505

Your mana dorks will all be dead and anything that can block or interact will be thoughtseized. Then they'll run you over with death's shadow on turn three and four and you'll be dead because you've no way to defend yourself.
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>>57423481
>>57423482
>>57423505
But what should I play then if I troll these guys? They've been nagging me for weeks just because modern turnup at my lgs is usually low and they want more players. And they know I have the cards because we play EDH together.

What should I build to just mess around? Don't care about winning.
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I dunno what I'm doing and I don't know what to put in as the last two cards. I'm not gonna put more Ezuri in because he's legendary.
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>>57423548
You could just play the game like a normal person and have fun, or tell them politely that you don't want to play modern.
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>>57423551
More Ezuri.
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>>57423551
Oh and I have nothing for the Storm matchup, so that might also be relevant to adjust cards for.
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>>57423548
You could try googling modern decks and finding out yourself what decks there are that help you achieve hiw you want to win
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>>57423548
Do a ton of meta research and make a fun rogue brew. You can definitely make a pile that will play surprisingly well, just not with Warp World. My deck has 3 6 mana walkers and the fact that I can play them at all is already incredible.
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>>57423434
My time has come to show another shitbrewer the deck I so desperately wanted to make work.
Feel free to ask me questions about it, this shit was my baby for awhile and it was crazy.
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>>57419161
Temur. I started playing Temur Evolve Zoo and it's the first Modern deck I tried that I really enjoy
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>>57423740
Shit, that list is also supposed to have Boseiju but whatever
Just pretend it does
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>>57423804

That's pretty easy to do since it in fact has boseiju in it.
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>>57423813
Shhhh
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>>57423804
How high are you, anon?
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>>57423862
Don't patronize me
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>>57398236
Is the ban stirrings thing a meme because of saffron olive saying this or do ppl honestly want the card axed?
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>tfw utron
>tfw everyone talking about banning stirrings
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>>57424272
the only person talking about banning stirrings is that retard safron olive because his mono white changelings and 6-card combos get beat by an actual deck
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>>57424272
posted the wrong picture but I guess that kinda works
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>>57424272
>Stirrings getting banned
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>>57424183
>Ban Ponder because it makes combo too consistent
>Does fuck all for a 1 mana Impulse

Really makes you wonder
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>>57424481
>1 mana Impulse
Do you not read the cards or are you actually this retarded?
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>>57423434
Is there are reason why warp world first puts artifacts, lands and creatures then has a separate text for enchantments? This always confused me.
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>>57424898
So you can attach them to things
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Thoughtseize or Inquisition?
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>>57425011
Against Burn and Affinity: IoK
Literally everything else: Thoughtsseize
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>>57424413
its not like we have replacements
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>>57425048
Then why do I see 8 Rack lists running 4 IoK 3 TS?
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>>57425276
forgot pic like a retard
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>>57423551
Chord of Calling?
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>>57425011
>>57425048
against tron: thoughtseize
against literally everything else: IoK or both
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>>57425294
>card used mostly for lantern, tron and titan
>only a decent replacement for one of these
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>>57425294
>top 3 instead of top 5

Good luck with that my dude.
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>>57425463
yeah no shit its not as good, otherwise it'd be played now.
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For 8 Rack, should I go first or second?
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>>57426388
Nice.
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>>57426351
I usually go second in round one, then first if the opponent is aggro.
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>>57403617
this nigger doesn't even have any fucking hands how the fuck can he be a kang let alone 4/4
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>>57416341
Rudy is a moron and you're a simpleton. My LGS barely sells any singles at all. Yet somehow they stay open! Imagine that.
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>>57426628
That nigga is liek them anime cool kids who fight with their hands in their pockets, don't talk shit , he is a fucking pro.
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>>57427492
At least it prevents him from stealing I suppose
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>>57416806
>95% of people that play kitchen table are not relevant saleswise.
this is easily the dumbest thing i have heard all week
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>>57424481
>Really makes you wonder
>wonder
>not ponder
One job.
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>swing baneslayer
>get concession
>play vial t1
>get concession
k
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>>57427734
>t1 stirrings
>opp concedes
>t1 stirrings again
>opp concedes again
I am not even playing some tier deck, just a shtbrew which happens to play stirrings, but i guess fear is stronger then actual power.
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>>57427263
>my store remains magically open!
Dude you're the simpleton. Do you know your store business model? If it's not singles it's sealed product, if it's not that they're probably barely alive by selling doritos to spergs like you.
>>57427619
That's because you don't reread your posts before posting.
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>>57427734
>>57427775
Your opponents just learned about the concept of conceding to hide information and are using it wrong.
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>>57428081
those were g2 and 3 though. it was a d&t mirror.

>>57427775
fear is the mind-killer, or something.

>>57427781
my store sells vidya gaems, board games, dvds, warhammer and magic cards. dude's pretty successful. rented the space next to the store, knocked out the wall and expanded to make a larger gaming space. then he opened two more stores in neighboring cities.

>mfw he announces another store opening, then sponsors a 2k legacy tournament.
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>>57428258
Damn doing it hardcore.
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>>57428258
>my store sells vidya gaems, board games, dvds, warhammer and magic cards. dude's pretty successful. rented the space next to the store
So it's not a magic store, it's also a magic store.
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>>57428465
did you want to make a point or are you just talking to talk?
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>>57428695
Videogame stores make much more money than magic stores because they actually have margins.

What is it that you don't understand about teh conversation?
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>>57428798
>Videogame stores make much more money than magic stores because they actually have margins.
yes, we've established this. you're not progressing the conversation, you're explaining things to me that i already understand. if you don't have anything to add, why are you posting? did you want to make an argument for or against only selling magic cards? if so, please do. also please keep in mind that i am not >>57427263 and his opinion does not reflect my own. i merely posted an example of a successful lgs model that has sustainability outside the realm of mtg for your consideration.


>What is it that you don't understand about teh conversation?
inflammatory conjecture with no basis. also not an argument.
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>>57428258
>>57428695
>>57429396
filtered
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>>57429430
i won't miss you, either!
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>>57429396
How fucking stupid are you exactly?

If your lgs has a "model that has sustainability outside the realm of mtg" why did you even reply to my original post that was saying it's impossible to make money simply letting spergs like you play?

>my lgs makes money on anything but magic!
>what point are you trying to make?
Dear god.
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>>57423434
In modern, there is a 2 card 6 mana combo that instantly wins you the game when you play it and a 1 card 4 mana (but requires at least 7 lands) combo that also wins the game most of the time. If your card costs 6 mana and doesnt basically win you the game on the spot, its bad.
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>>57429632
A few of the 6 mana walkers see play as one ofs.
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>>57429482
>why did you even reply to my original post that was saying it's impossible to make money simply letting spergs like you play?
do you really not understand or are you memeing? help me help you, friend.
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>>57429861
Please help me, I want to be amused.
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>>57429825
post a non-tron deck list that has top8'd anything playing a 6 mana walker.
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>>57430826
Literally UW control.
A lot of those lists run Gideon Jura as a top-end.
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>>57431559
He's a 5 mana walker, my bad.
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>>57431581
You can count Elspeth.




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