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Previous Thread: >>60288128
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What are the pros and cons of the monetization of CYOA ( patreon for example )
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I've missed last few weeks, any good OCs?
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>>60299218
literally three have come out yesterday.
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>>60299216
better quality and someone mentioned that it would make authors pander to the public
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>>60299218
OP's pic is a recent OC. Also pic related
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>>60299277
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>>60299277
Can you have negative grand projects completion?
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>>60299216
Cons
>Author gets forced to make CYOAs
>Patrons may force Author to change the CYOA
>If Author leaved it's job to fulfill the demands then it has no choice to comply to the demands or be pennyless
>Having to do something and Wanting to do something are different things and making something you want to do is usually better quality
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What happened to that Hero Academy and Mage School Anon?
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>>60299216

That's not so much monetization. If I recall, monetization is where people have to pay for the service/product. For sites like Patreon, this can be done, but plenty of people technically make stuff for free, and other people just throw money at them (donations).

Some creators let their fans/donors dictate things, which leads to problems.
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Posting this again here because my DLC for it only got a couple hours before the thread died

p1/6
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>>60299303
Being broke enough to succumb to the will of your supporters baka
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>>60299308
2/6
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>>60299216
Cancerous faggots like you forcing authors to do it to spite others.
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>>60299306
Aii authors, set up your donation boxes
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>>60299308
3/6
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>>60299216
Any monetization would require all original art, which would eat up the budget so quickly it wouldn't be financially viable for anyone.
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>>60299216
If CYOAs start getting monetized or compensated monetary, it truly will be the downfall of CYOAs. It'll also attract a lot of normalfaggots here from facebook, 9gag, twitter and other social media platforms.

also
>being this poor that you have to get by a few hundred dollars (at best) a month from demanding autists
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>>60299308
4/6
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>>60299216
CYOAs would become exclusive to patrons just like with the majority of patreons.
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The viable Patreon/Crowdfund strategy for any artist, as I see it:

1. Keep working your day job
2. Get good
3. Advertise your good-getting
4. Keep an arm's length between yourself and the fans/supporters
5. Listen to criticism but stay true to yourself
6. Get gooder
7. Profit
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>>60299375
Bigger audience can perhaps lead to more potential authors
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>>60299308
5/6
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>>60299216
Pros
>Dem Shekels goyim
Cons
>Small customer base puts cyoa creators as competitors for patreonbux thus ruining comf
>Low quality cyoas rushed out the door to keep your patreonbux up
>Cyoas borrow ideas and inspiration from each other all the time, with money on the line this would be stopped
>Legal trouble from including other people's art in your cyoa without even asking their permission
Really the same problems as bringing money into the modding community. Hobbies are things you do for free, it gets weird when you switch hats.
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>>60299408
Most assume that authors can’t fulfill the fifth bulletpoint
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>>60299308
6/6
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>>60299414
Nobody wants your normie CYOAs.
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>>60299414
Bigger audience mean you need to make cyoa more mainstream, or else you will get very bad feedback, which mean we lose the uniqueness of cyoa. Which is the point of cyoa in the first place.
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>>60299414
It'd lead to dozens of youtube reaction channels like that one guy who reads Tok CYOAs as this super weird 4chan thing. Bigger audiences are inherently worse, it is always a monkey's paw situation.
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>>60299408
8. lock down all content to patrons-only because you're good enough now that people are willing to pay
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Have a dead meme.
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>But soon greed spreaded to the heart of the creators
>And the creators were unwittingly chained by their new masters creatures from beyond the kingdom of the fourfold leaves
>Now deprived of the coveted OC the disciples of the branching path are slowly becoming withered husks along with their cherished creators
tragic
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>>60299469
Have I mentioned that I would fuck tankista if he/she was a female?
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>>60299468
9. stop updating for weeks and then put up a post about how you've come down with carpal tunnel syndrome or depression or gender dysphoria and that's why you haven't been posting but still need money.
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>>60299414
Not worth the risk.
normalfaggots ruin everything.

Besides, there's definitely a high chance that all cyoas will be influenced by some sjw bullshit. "Wahh this cyoa is too misogynist, why is this girl being sexually objectified"
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>>60299216
>What are the pros and cons of the monetization of CYOA ( patreon for example )
Not gonna happen unless the author don't use images they don't own. EDG and PDF authors with no graphics might get away with it, but anyone who wants to use images wouldn't be able to monetize their CYOAs.
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>>60299469
>DSA
>alive
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>>60299493
Becoming a japanese husk still qualifies you as alive
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>No fuck off, I'll say it here. You're making it about [1] how much money you can squeeze out of idiots rather than [2] making something fun.

Because you can't do both for some reason.
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>>60299308
And, once again, the DLC. A few clarifications and spelling fixes from the first, so now it's alpha-02. Still no pictures, because I'm concentrating on the actual fucking mechanics first, rather than flashy looks. Take a look, give it a try, see what you think. Fractional point costs are allowed, just add them all up and round to the nearest whole at the end.
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>>60299490
Tok not shitposting for the first time Nani?
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So is this Patreon justification a shill by some author who just wants to open a Patreon account and start making shitty cyoas for money?
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>>60299521
DID SOMEONE MENTION DONATION BOX?
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>>60299521
yes
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>>60299521
most likely
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>>60299512
Yes, you can't. Your job isn't your hobby. Anyone can tell you that when something becomes a job, you approach it differently. Never mind that you have every incentive to pander and be a greedy piece of shit.
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>>60299506
>ZBG dies of retardation
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Ahhh, a shitpost /cyoag/ thread, feels like home desu
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Have you guys forgotten the shitshow that towergirls became? the end result was another shitty game patroon sucking money out of fans without proceeding anything. And whit all due respect, that WAS way more popular and accessible from the get go.
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>>60299521
Yes, it's some greedy faggot testing the waters most likely.
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>>60299550
>Italics cries to sleep
Oddly fitting
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Yo what the fuck is the towergirl cyoa shit? I’m thinking of moving there because this thread has just been shitposting just like the week before, also what the fuck is JumpCYOA?
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>>60299577
Who the hell is “gil-kun”?
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>>60299573
*a shitty NTR game that even the guy who originally came up with Towergirls hates
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>>60299616
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Why hasn’t anyone made an disgaea CYOA yet?
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>>60299612
Shitposter who made the RWBY remake and Call of the Midnight World.
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>>60299616
Yeah, that sounds like Highlander.
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>>60299597
Jumpchain is an autistic /cyoa/ spinoff where your self-insert travels through cyoas based off of anime and games and shit and picks up powers and items from them. If you don't like shitposting don't bother because their general is mostly about shitposting between the namefags who make their cyoas and the jumpchain community on spacebattles who they hate.
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>>60299546
>>60299547
>>60299590
if it ever happens we can just false flag it and call the author a nazi sympathizer or something. or report the patreon account for stealing content/resources
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>>60299486
When people post my OC to reddit, I can't help but look because I'm a whore. It really is amazing how often that comes up as a complaint and how much they refuse to make their own OC to fit their standards.
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>>60299651
Well yeah, I know I'd personally make sure patreon found out about any copyright violations.
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>>60299619
precisely my point
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>>60299647
It's actually mostly one faggot who hates everyone harassing all the other posters constantly. Seriously there's this one horrible NEET who does nothing else.
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>>60299677
>>60299666
fuck
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>>60299647
What about towergirls? Thanks for the heads up about Jump
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>>60299558

Even if that's the case, I don't see the problem. There are plenty of hobbyists who will never ask for money and make plenty of good content. Me advocating some good artists try to make money doing what they like doing isn't going to dent that. Heck, it's already been done. The sky hasn't fallen.
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>>60299683
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Is Celt a girl? How else can anyone but a girl make such a comfy cyoa
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>>60299677

I know wtf
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>>60299697
In hindsight, I probably should've merged all the smaller pics together. Well, too late now.
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>>60299691
so you WERE really attempting to monetize cyoas
pathetic man

get a real job
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>>60299696
Whenever men in suits inject money into something it always destroys everything good about said thing.
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>>60299723
Celt is boi, a weed-boi.
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>>60299723

I thought everyone here was an anime girl unless otherwise stated
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>>60299691
You'd deserve it. You'd deserve it when the copyright holders take you to court too.
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>>60299741
Then I hope all authors take weed so they can reach celt’s level of comfyness or box’s level of hidden lore
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>>60299738
Eh? no i just linked the wrong anon
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>>60299695
No clue, I think it's one of those cyoas like Accidental Magical Girl where people have formalized it so that you could play it as a rpg or quest and the thread is a bunch of namefags posting about their ocs for years.
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>>60299696
>Guys there'll be plenty of people who'll make good content guys seriously
Someone hasn't been keeping up with patreon, and ANY amount of content becoming a job and getting locked behind patreon is unforgivable. Fuck off.
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>>60299761
Rosanon and beri are more comfy tho. Celt is too much if a degenerate to be considered king of comfy.
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>>60299790
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>>60299795
Rosanon is only good if you hate penises.
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>>60299795
Ok but is there any girls senpai?
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>>60299806
beri no
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>>60299795
Can you post a cyoa by both of the authors you’ve mentioned?
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>>60299812
Well... do you love penis?
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>>60299835
Yes.
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>>60299849
Disgusting!
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>>60299863
This thread has devolved to posting this type of shit huh?
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>>60299844
Then guess who the fag is? I for one only have a mild appreciation for mine.
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>>60299884
>Tankista only wins because the others kill themselves
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>>60299899
He can now suck my dick as prize
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>>60299881
I never said anything about fags, anon.
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>>60299740

You know money is how people live, right? It's ubiquitous. Practically everything that you own was produced by somebody who wanted to sell it.

Corruption can happen to anyone with no philosophical/moral standards. Corruption will be harder to carry out in this information age, where everything you do is catalogued somewhere (the Internet never forgets).

So overall I see only improvements happening, unless we get hit by an asteroid, or perhaps if (((they))) decide it's time to pull out all the stops.
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>>60299911
>Corruption will be harder to carry out in this information age
Oh god the pay piggy is retarded.
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>>60299899
Come on, what did you expect to happen when Celt tries to handle explosives?
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>>60299905
And now for some statistics.
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>>60299884
beri no
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>>60299834
Beri has a bunch of his posted on the previous thread, and my internet is shitty so I can't post rosanon's ones.
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>>60299923
See you next time.
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>>60299923
>I have the most kills
feels good

its not like I was ever going to win a deathmatch anyways
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>>60299910
Yes but I 'm saying, if you love dick you are a fags.
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I’ve been hearing about this rosanon person, is it a straight girl?
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>>60299790
WTF is this shit supposed to be anyway? Sure not a CYOA.
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>>60299944
That was hog wild.
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>>60299919

Whether or not the data is verifiable will depend on patterns reflecting as much of reality as possible.

We have already seen Weaponized Autism in action. Don't be foolish.
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>>60299957
Stop being so new
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>>60299944
No, never do this again.
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>>60299957
Posted by the fags on cyoa discord cuz they don’t have anything else to do
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>>60299955
There are no straight girls on /cyoag/.
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>>60299972
Better than some shitty author trying to get people to pay him money for stolen assets.
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>>60299972
We’re gonna do it again whether or not you like it
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>>60299976
Nope, but we had some fun watching it.
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>>60299911
Money is safely compartmentalized into the working mindset. It's like radiation: to be used as/when necessary for a specific purpose, but otherwise safely contained. Suits destroy everything they touch, look at any hobby.
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>>60299985
>>60299994
I WILL END YOU ALL
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>>60299216

I think the need for original art in a CYOA that was monitzed would chew through any budget pretty quickly (as has already been mentioned) I saw a post on tg the other day by a guy who'd made his own tabletop system and was selling the pdf through an online distributor. People asked him about the art on the thread and apparendly he'd sunk a few grand into paying for it. He'd accepted that the project was a labour of love and that he'd never see any real rerurn from it.

Personally I find there's an appealing artistic purity to the world of CYOA creation. The fact that you're making something for an incredibly nieche audience that has zero commertial viability makes it a purer expression of creativity if you ask me.
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>>60299985
Who would do such a thing anyway ffs
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>>60300003
Give that reaction again and we’ll make another one to flood this thread :3
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>>60300019
The guy arguing for it in this thread.
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>>60299985

I keep forgetting that not everyone has figured out that Intellectual Property is a myth
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>>60299972
Every day until you like it
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>>60299484
>I kill Acheld with a hatchet
>Self Injury
Glad I didn't run, mad I stubbed my toe on a root.
>hold hands with senpai
Ayyy, things are looking up!
>finds a river
>Ros and I trade stories
>huntin
Well this was boring. All we did was say we were gay. Ros said he was gay for girls though, so whatever that mean.
>beri missed me and hit spess
>steals from angel
>fought away from fire
I saw a friend die before my eyes, I acquired more depression, and was made to sleep cold. Typical friday.
>as much as I could carry
Is this thing sentient? That's fucking funny.
>pricked
lennyface.png
>survives
>holding hands with Tank now
>thinks about home
Another day alive is nothing special. Can't believe I'm a slut though. Also, home is shit and the internet is bad.
>detonates mine
...
Fucking damnit
I'm triggered
And so was the mine.
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>>60300043
By that logic paying the asset stealer for their intellectual property (the writing) would still be stupid.
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>>60300006
Art is fucking expansive as shit, we have had this discussion before, the outcome would be very few, if any at all, cyoas a year and loads of money being sunk into a project both from the "fans" and the creator, for little to no return.
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>>60300043
If someone can sue you for it, it's not a myth. And if you're receiving money, the paper trail is that much clearer.
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>>60300043
try and make money of a beyonce song and get back at me with that myth thing.
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>>60299469
Can I have the art you used for Symbiobro and Celt?
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First money then some dumb hunger game shit, what’s next guys?
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>>60300090
>>60300064

I'm sure you can name a few laws that are retarded/make no sense but people still get sued/incarcerated for them
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>>60300099
The culling
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>>60300108
Sure I could. But just because they're stupid doesn't mean they're not laws, and it doesn't mean you can't get into serious trouble for breaking them.
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>>60300056
Not enough owls.
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>>60300099
We should start shipping authors. Perhaps even write erotic fiction?
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>>60300099
Dunno, we got spoiled with three oc in one day and we degenerated. A lack of want creates degeneracy, the only way to keep the thread healthy is trough scarcity.
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>>60299911
>he honestly thinks corruption is result in the lack of philosophical, moral and ethics and not from their empirical interpretation and fallacious rationalization

>he honestly corruption will be harder in the information age when the opposite is happening due to giving every idiot on the planet a voice and a opportunity to spread erroneous and detrimental opinions and ideologies leading to cognitive dissonance, fundamentalism, cultural marxism and the destruction of family values and filial piety

>he honestly thinks (((they))) is in full control when the common man is also at fault for thinking ignorant is an self entitlement
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So... we’ve decided to be /pol/ today?
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>>60300152
Why would we ship a bunch of neckbeards together?
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>>60299238
>>60299277
So what are the other two?
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>>60299795
Am I really called a degenerate just because of the drow?
I swear I haven't shared any of my fetishes with you guys...
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>>60300182
Can't read huh?
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How’s your WIP going anons ?
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>>60300152
Already happened.

Celt x ZBG
Tok x SDA
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>>60300192
Your waifus are impure!
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>>60300183
everyone in 4chan is a little girl silly!
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>>60300211
You forgot:
LoliTankista x Me
Straight!Rosanon x Me
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>>60300146

Well of course, I concede that.

I'm saying it doesn't have to be this way.

When enough people unite under one bill, it becomes Law. The same will go for Abolition
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>>60300192
You have shared enough for us to know your "tastes" are beyond what the majority of us would consider ok.
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>>60300211
I divorced his ass
>>60300215
I gave you some pure ones, you selfish nonce. How many hoes you think are virgins in this day and age?
Not condoning it, just stating facts and implying statistics.
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>>60300208

Going well, but it's been a long process... I want my first one to be a good one, and I have gone through several drafts
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>>60300249
What’s it about? Build up the hype
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>>60300238
Well please share. I want to be on the same page so I don't overshare thinking I've said worse.
I still say absurdly big tits and giant women are pointless fetishes.
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>>60300241
This is /cyoag/, not the real world! Reality and reason has no hold here! Begone, thot!
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>>60299651
Pretty sure thats what happen to Pepe. I remember vaguely that Taylor Swift shared the Pepe and it got viral.

Afterwards weaponized autism shilled its meme to be nazi and gore. It still attracts a few edgy 9gaggers but it's still mostly not acceptable in most normalfag social groups.
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>>60299506
ZBG`s pic really fits his(her) dumb as shit death
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>>60300208
I had to abandon it for a while as work picked up, hopefully I'll get back to it at some point. I dunno, the more I think about it the more I realize I'm both repeating myself and that it's probably a silly idea only I think would be fun.
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>>60299506
>not included
thank god
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>>60300264
Touche. But fiction should still be based upon logical implications of the setting. Unless the setting is ye old conservative fantasy, or a world where pre marital sex havers are executed, I don't think it's logical to have virgins be the majority.
My waifus will never cheat or hurt you so long as you treat them to the same courtesy. That's a Celt guarantee.
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>>60300286
Admit that you’re a little bit sad you weren’t one of them.
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Can someone post the latest version of royal guard?
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>>60300252

I got the inspiration to make a Ring CYOA by reading somebody else's. Sadly I cannot recall which, I haven't seen it in a while.

It will have two "game modes", one that is a very simple "pick your items", and another that has a bigger story attached to it, with little quests that add character to the items and whatnot.

I'm close to finishing the simple version so that I can have something to show for like... a month of on and off work.

What I hope for is constructive criticism, but I won't expect anything from you anoms... ^_^;
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>>60299484
>avoids danger
>>60299506
>works collaberatively
>>60299550
>talks about big tiddy stories with Symbio
>>60299577
>tries to ignore obvious red herrings
>>60299616
>continues diplomacy even when it's probably not the best idea
>>60299638
>attempts stealth
>>60299683
>groups with HL
>>60299745
>dies in a completely retarded, trivial way

Yep. That's me all right.
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>>60300313
>weren’t one of some random anon's hunger games sim
yeah no
being included would mean that my cyoas has become mainstream in /cyoag/
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>>60300258
How big is "giant"? because if you diss on amazons you just show your lack of taste.
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>>60300308
You have no place in the /cyoag/ court
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>>60300368
Enough so to where my fucking suspension of disbelief in the human spin is broken.
One tit should not be the size of a torso, holy fuck.
>>60300376
Good thing I'm the crazy nomad down the road and in my own cave.
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>>60300399
>human spin
*spine
Human spin is just fine.
No it isn't. The universe reset made me so fucking mad. All those JoJos and their adventures, bonds, and achievements. Just fucking gone.
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>>60300423
I liked hamon
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>>60300308
You should make husbandos for once, Celt
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>>60300447
Well, there's 6 male companions in NIM.
Archtypes?
>>60300436
Another thing to make me mad. Just because stands popped up, Hamon isnt a thing anymore?
Joseph can fucking use both, and it worked great for him. Just imagine if Jotaro could use it too.
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>>60300475
Nine Inch Massages?
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>>60300485
Is this a euphemism for a gay dicking?
All my characters in cyoas are fuckable unless otherwise stated.
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>>60300475
araki forgot
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>>60300497
Just making fun of the NIM acronym.
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>>60300208
Nearly done with all of the selectable guns and equipment. Still working on the contracts/operations.

My idea is, that You'll need to complete 5 levels of Handpicked Contracts/Operations for each role, each level getting harder. So if the first Level for Hitman is to take down a local crime boss then Level 5 would something like a Billionaire or a public figure of the same weight. After completing and essentially graduating, You can choose any contracts/jobs You see fit. This is somewhat based in the Hitman universe.

If You have any ideas or something You'd like to see, go ahead. I'm lacking ideas and inspiration.
Just make the contract detailed with some complications or somethin'
The Role descriptions isn't finalized by the way, I'll replace the text with someone that speaks to You in a more "Professional or Corporate" manner.
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>>60300475
>NIM
wat dat
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Don't remind me.
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>>60299834
Both authors have directories on the Mega. Beri is incredibly prolific with over 50 cyoas to his name.
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>>60300536
Hidden males trough his cyoas, he makes it so you have a chance of getting a trap instead of a woman regardless of what you pick.
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>>60300517
>>60300536
Oh.
Celt's Bizarre Adventure; Neon Ink Masquerade
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>>60300564
OI, YOU FUCKER
Stop giving away the secrets I'm gonna hide in. Only one guy is actually a girl.
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>>60300574
I already answered him so you don''t need to.
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WHERES TRAP CYOA?
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Someone make disgaea cyoa pl0x
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>>60300591
I'm going to beat you to death with my firstborns umbilical cord.
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>>60300617
You'll never plant your seed in anyone lul
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>>60300624
Wonders of science. And acting.
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>>60300624
I’ll plant my seed in your boipussi you slut
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>>60300003
Just report them. It's not a cyoa and doesn't belong here. Enough people do that and it'll go away. That or just ignore it. Forever.
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>>60300617
Umbilical cords are soft so it will take you quite a while. A better use for it would be strangling.
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>>60300589
Who's the one giving away the secrets now?
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>>60300616
just make a prinny do it i bet there is one that has been an author already
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>>60300650
NARC
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>>60300090
Or anything Disney. Hell Disney sued a 14 year old girl because she had images from their stuff on her babysitting website.
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>>60300529
I have a cancer
And can't wait to see it finished!
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>>60300652
The point is the weapon is so absurd and illogical that it's my bloodlust and rage that will primarily kill him as I repeatedly thwack him over the head.
>>60300654
I can change anything before release.
WHOOSH
Now they all have penises.
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>>60300658
I’ll make a disgaea cyoa if someone gives me a base idea/theme to work with
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>>60300650
It was fun this one time. I also wouldn't complain if there was another a few weeks from now either. Break from the norm for stupid entertainment.
>>60300689
My condolences.
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>>60300529
Is it cool it's comedic or is this a "serious" cyoa?

Level 1: You've been contracted to take down a local gang boss Gianni, leader of the Versace Gang. For years they've been at war with the Louis Vuitton gang, it has taken a toll in their resources with the constant territory brawls. They've come to the conclusion that it would be cheaper if their leader, was taken out as he's the only that is actually leading them to victorious skirmishes. While not the best equipped and trained, they are numerous and easily provoked.
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>>60300714
How bout making it about disgea?
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>>60300714
qt angel pls
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>>60300689
What kind of cancer anon?
I hope You have qt nurses catering to You.

>>60300726
I'll welcome it if it's comedic or not, whatever helps to fill the holes.
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>>60300761
It’ll be a companion or something but I don’t know where I should start it
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>>60300767
>holes
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>>60300692
>Now they all have penises.
Celt, no.
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>>60300794
Nobody can stop the madman now! Hs time with angel awakened his latent homosexuality and doomed us all!
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>>60300767
>whatever helps to fill the holes.
>whatever helps to fill their holes.
>helps to fill their holes.
>fill their holes.
im on it just give me a minute
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>>60299484
Dammit I didn't even last 1 round.
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>>60300828
CELT YES
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okay, since the lot of you shouted at me last time I did this

is making the BBEGs stronger than the PC bad
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>>60300773
The important part about the Disgaea flavor is that it's a JRPG, but it's one that makes fun of JRPGs - the most common teal deer review of Disgaea 5 I've seen is that it's got great gameplay but the story is the kind of thing previous Disgaea games lovingly mock.

So what I'm saying is, make it so it riffs on CYOA tropes or something. That's just as important as the ridiculously huge numbers and bad-is-good demon morality.

aside: B-but Captcha, what if I want to be a robot? T-t-triggered! Why even live!?
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>>60300866
No.
Making them undefeatable, yes.
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>>60300866
Not letting the PCs challenge them personally kind of stinks, yeah.
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>>60299550
>Tokhaar snuggling with Angel
It's like a singularity of shit.
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>>60300828
Celt stole angel's gay?
Does that mean she's straight now?
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>>60300869
I’ll take your advice to heart advicenon
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>>60300866
It's not bad, anons just whine if they can't defeat everything instantly and solo. You'll have to endure autistic screeching and it may impact popularity, but that has nothing to do with the actual quality.
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>>60300896
No, her gay was too intense that was enough to turn celt without affecting her much. If had t day she is able to 10 more people before her metamorphosis into a bisexual starts.
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>>60300910
Worst girl
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>>60300866
stop asking for advice, dumb golden faggot retard
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>>60300941
eat shit and die you shitty shitty ass piss
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>>60300938
fuck you, she's best girl
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>>60300767
Can I lewd the girls.
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>>60300965
Every problem in that series is literally this stupid cunt's fault. I would have left her in an alley as soon as possible in kazima's position.
Megumin is the only one salvageable. Just gotta show her the magic of grenades.
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>>60300308
Or a world that just prizes monogamy and family more than ours does (basically none.)
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>>60301016
You can have a world like that and not shame non-virgins as something lesser. Sluts by choice, go right ahead. Rape victims or lead astray by some smooth talker? Water under the bridge and not worth thinking about.
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>>60301010
Grenades are shit exprosion too small
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>>60301034
>Don't treat them as something lesser
Depends on the situation. Husband died? Ex-boyfriend was abusive? Fine. Was a slut? No.
>Rape victims
No shit, but in any sane world this is a small minority of women.
>Lead astray
Yeah no, cheaters are always unforgivable.
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>>60300965
Aqua is okay, but I walk the Path of Explosions.
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>>60301049
With that attitude, you'll go nowhere.
Cram as much explosive magic as fucking possible into small fragmentation pots, then see what happens when you throw them.
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>>60301034
What guarantees they wont be smooth talked again? Rape is another history, but being deceived easily is a very bad sign.
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>>60301053
>Was a slut? No
I literally said that.
>any sane world
Ho boy, you must have missed that one anon who went on for three threads about how victims are worthless and never going to recover.
>cheaters
Agreed, drop 'em at first sign. I meant those college guys who find the highschool girls for a quick lay.
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>>60300308
>He thinks non-virgins love their current partner more than their first one
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>>60301053
>>60301090
>>60301098
>>60301100
I don't want to get involved, but I know that nothing good comes from talking about relationships. Can we stop early?
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Started working on a cyoa. Is joining the discord worth it?
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>>60301064
Too small
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this thread is a nightmare now

only tankista can save it with his fate cyoa
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>>60301100
do you love your GF the same as your ex?
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>>60301100
>He thinks women are capable of love.
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>>60301098
>I meant those college guys who find the highschool girls for a quick lay.
'Astray' in regards to relationships generally means cheating, so be careful with that one. That said, I agree with the other guy that it's a really bad sign for her trustworthiness even if she wasn't seeing anyone at that time.

>>60301108
How about you stop trying to stop people's conversations? Butt out and shut up.
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>>60301010
And it makes everyone grow as a person. She really pulls through when it is needed. Also gives some humor to the show.

Aqua is a force of good and humor--Best Girl.
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>>60301090
Well, I say no second chances when it comes to adultery since I agree with "did it once, will do it again"
Cheating is something you have to make a decision about and if you throw a relationship aside for dick/vag, then it shows where said relationship stands. Thrown aside and gone.
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>>60301109
No, seriously, no. But if you need I'll still give you the link but it's honestly no worth it-- I had the same idea a while ago but no.
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>>60301109
no
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>>60301116
I didn't end up liking either of them.
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>>60301114
fate literally brings out the worst of people. have you forgotten that whenever midnight world is posted theres always sakura and rinfags?
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>>60301109
Despite the shitposting, it's fine. Go find out for yourself.
Currently we're making flags and discussing grammar.
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>>60301098
Rape victims are generally mentally ill though, the science proves it.
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>>60301109
It's best if you FINISH FIRST and then go there, it's hell there
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>>60301140
>theres always sakura and rinfags?
I know, its like those plebs dont realise Medea is the only choice
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>>60301119
>even if she wasn't seeing anyone at that time
I suppose so, but I don't like to judge much until I get to see their disposition.
Also, it should be said relationships should only be entered once a deep connection and understanding is reached. If you treat relationships like one-night stands, you're going to get burned.
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>>60301109
They can tell you some things you might not know about design, but you'll probably want to make your creative decisions yourself.
Other than that, it's just a room where CYOA authors/enthusiasts go to shitpost at each other
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>>60301109
It basically kills author productivity. No author that goes there produces much OC or any at all.
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>>60301161
Meduseless.
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>>60301174
a snake is nice too I suppose
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>>60301154
>it's hell there
Maybe, but the drinks are on the house.
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>>60301166
This, I lost all productivity when I entered and I haven't even started my 2nd page
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>>60301109
no
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>>60301162
I'm a cautious person. Someone would really have to charm me over that one.
>No connection; one night stands
Which is generally why people get wary over CYOA girls who are noted to have gone through that kind of relationship. It raises all the red flags. Meanwhile, widows and the like inspire far less suspicion.
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>>60301219
I suppose that makes sense with what you say about cyoa girls.
But it's a cyoa. Part of that is literally your own interpretation. No matter how much the author writes and adds, anything left to you is ultimately left to you. The girls are introduced/presented, but it'll go how you expect it to go following rule of cyoa. Unless locked in endings/situations/foresight is given, in which case you have very little wriggle room.
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>>60301262
That's the dumbest thing about purity arguments to me. It's all fiction. None of these girls are real. Just decide you interpret the ambiguity as they're faithful, done. Or if one canonically unfaithful, then pick another one. It's not rocket science here.
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>>60301262
>>60301289
It's a matter of suspension of disbelief, and all that. Even with an authorial guarantee, it's hard to ignore experience and what you know from real life on a matter so mundane and normal. Your mind will always have that nagging idea in the back of your head that the girl is going to act how you'd expect her to if real. Relationships are definitely far into the mundane camp where it's hard to suspend disbelief. In contrast, the less realistic a situation is, the easier it is to suspend disbelief.
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>>60301289
I know, I know.
But....anons and their autism are like oil and vinegar.
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>>60301293
but by that logic its sane to assume that anon will be a worthless sack of shit who could never get a girl in the CYOA as well

they very fact that you have a waifu is going against suspension of disbelief
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>>60301325
My sides, dude.
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>>60301325
Anon, it's easier to trust yourself than it is others. That isn't news.
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For my CYOA I'm going to leave as little information about romance and sex life of the characters as possible and let everyone else fill in the gaps with their imagination
People will find parts of that to complain about anyway, but it will at least leave me free of responsibility
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>>60301494
This is how most fantasy cyoa centered around a OC world does their lore
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>>60299745
>Angel, Gil-kun, and TokHaar Gol get into a fight.
>Gil-kun triumphantly kills them both.
Gil-kun, the hero this thread never deserved.
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>>60301518
AUO

AUO

AUO
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>>60301518
stop praising yourself
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>>60301518
No he`s a total fag.
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>>60301533
thats not me

>>60301529
im this guy
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>>60301494
>it will at least leave me free of responsibility
Now you're using your thinky-meats, anon!

Also, I finally thought of how to answer the question for the Cult DLC "Why would I want 2000 filthy casuals when I could get 1000 fifth level cleric/wizards for the same points?" from the previous thread:

When they die, you then have 2000 souls to make Familiars with instead of 1000, and as Familiars they all get strong magic anyway. What's a mortal lifetime's delay to an archdemon? Of course, the 1000 low-level casters can also net you more converts by being useful with their magic and fight better to defend your cult's holdings, and you do have to keep SOME presence in the world, so as ever it's a trade off.
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>>60301584
I don't get what it has to do with my romance comment or the conversation at large but I'm glad you were able to solve your problem in what seems to be a creative and effective way
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>>60301494
They'l read into the lack of words and assume the worst, as they always do.
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>>60299905
Based Tankista.
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>>60301626
There is no wrong way to interpret my work besides dismissing the interpretation of others based on nothing but your own opinion
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>>60301626
You are confusing anons with despair-kun
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>>60301665
>>60301682
Look at how the waifu's of comfy trailer were shitposted about. how many they've fucked when that was never a given piece of info. Yeah, fetishes were there, but they were vanilla and you don't need to fuck to have a fetish. Otherwise most of you would be asexual.
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>>60301746
No those are purity fags
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>>60301746
Celt made that one worse by posting those stats 'anonymously' in /trash/.
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>>60301760
I'm a purity fag and I didn't complain. I just prefer virginity, I don't assume sluttery without good reason.
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>>60301621
The compliment and the rest of the post were two separate things.
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>>60301769
if Celt was a girl I would've fucked him so hard
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>>60301786
Okay then, congrats! If this is DLC, what is the CYOA it goes to?
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>>60301769
I posted it here first as a shitpost, you ass.
Get your history right.
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>>60301828
Overlord's Archdemon CYOA, posted at the top of this page.
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>>60301798
He's in one, and he's about to be in another.
If the author isn't dead. Haven't seen him in a while.
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But I guess that isn't really hyping... as a writer, I know I'm going to need help advertising in the future.

THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO...
Mankind stumbled upon the secrets of Magic. In time, with the help of Sorcerers, what was once a fledgling island colony became the most powerful nation on Earth.

The Sorcerers, renowned experts of their time, founded schools and took on apprentices. They traveled the world to hone their knowledge.

At the zenith of their mastery, they forged Rings, by which their power was enhanced, and their students could be trained with much greater ease.

By all accounts, this powerful nation would secure its place in history, and perhaps would have one day uplifted the entire world as its Crown.

But alas, for reasons unknown, it was all but destroyed in the blink of an eye.

All that remains are echoes of the past. Silent stones, across the world, and hidden treasures beneath the rock and waves.


During a beach vacation, you, the Protagonist, discover a Ring. The only one of its kind. As its new owner, a great mystery -the makings of a grand adventure- is revealed to you.

There will be Magic. There will be Memes. There will be Waifus.
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>tfw no African safari poachers vs rangers CYOA
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>>60301910
is the ring stylish?
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>>60301852
I'm not that good at paying attention. I'll look at it in an hour when I'm back inside.

>>60300208
I'm going to try to assemble the skills I've been writing down into a half-playable and poorly written amalgamation that I will not show anyone for the next week, at least. But I want to start showing it off a bit soon.
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>>60301926

If you like, I can show you the design I chose, so you can decide that for yourself ^_^;
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>By all accounts

This shuold be "By all rights," Anon.

GRAMMATIK HEIL!
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>>60302007

Aye aye! Thank you. I'll try to remember that
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>>60301830
Still, it's actually all your own fault this time.
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>>60302065
They shitposted about how many dicks they all had even before that list. I only dropped it towards the end of all that and after another guy made his own list with educated guesses to be a cunt towards purity fags.
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>>60302095
Let's be honest, purity fags are there for being a cunt to.
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>>60302128
>>60301775
I think you've made up this kind of purity fag in your own head and blame all shitposting on them.
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>>60302095
One autist shitposting does not mean you should throw wood on the fire and cause more shitposting.
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>>60301919
>tfw no ultra specific CYOA
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>>60301977

Here it is, just in case.
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>>60302165
>One
It was several, and all i did was dump some gasoline on the embers to get one last laugh before it died out.
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>>60302160
The only people who use the "purityfags don't exist" defense are purityfags who like to pretend their freakouts were reasonable.
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>>60302194
I didn't say they didn't exist, only that your image of them is a false one.
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>>60302194
>>60302128
Hey, aren't you the NTRfag guy in /trash/ who admitted to most of the anti-purity shitposting because you thought it would make your fetish more popular?
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>>60302178
>It was several
Nah senpai, you got attacked by the fujofatty.
>I dumped gasoline on it
This is why people shitpost at you, you know. You lost any right to complain about it by now.
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>>60302203
We have an archive, you realize? Take your pick at which shitstorm you want to review.
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>>60302212
No, NTR fuckers should get their noose ready. Neither extreme is sane.
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>>60302235
Ah yes, the 'it's in the archive' argument.
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>>60302222
Checked
And Im not complaining about people shitposting at me, I find it quite fun, just that I'm not at fault for whatever it was we were talking about again.
>>60302250
>literal archived posts of what was actually said verbatim
>argument
Bruh, are you clinically retarded?
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>>60302246
^This
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>>60302265
The point is that you cannot make an argument through citations without actually posting them. It's the same as the 'just google it' argument.
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>>60302277
The same can be said of you though. You can no more prove me wrong than I can prove myself right.
Because if you could you would have already, like a good debater
:D
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>>60302295
Anon it's effectively impossible to prove my point without a thorough examination of the entire thread history.
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>>60302295

That is the way of the master debater.
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>>60302303
And you expect me to do so just to appease you?
To only then say I am still wrong?
lol fuck off
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>>60300152
The original ship was Angel x SDA, now it's HL x SDA.
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>>60302314
Why do you guys keep matching up SDA with the lesbians?
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>>60302309
It would be easier for you since you'd only need one case, but yes I would argue against your case because we have several shitposters who stir things up for fun and not genuine concern, I hope you realize.
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>>60302295
>you should provide the evidence for my claim
you said something was there, its your burden of proof to find it
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>>60302321
I will grant you that the shit-stirrers exist, but you cannot just say that the extreme autists do not exit. I have thought the same on numerous topis, oh they're not serious, they can't be, but anon I assure you. They are quite serious. You cannot underestimate autism, and this environment you sorta have to assume the worst to acquire bearing.
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>>60302321
This poor naive fool. He will learn in time.
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>>60302327
I don't care about being right that much, but if he wants me to admit being wrong he had better find proof, else we keep going in circles.
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Y'all cats are craaazy. I love dropping by 4ch, I always get such a laugh.
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>>60302365
>I dont care about proving myself right
then you are wrong by default, you made a claim, the burden of proof was on you, and you failed to prove it- therefore you may as well be wrong
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>>60302321
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/53838507/#53847779
Have fun.
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>>60302370
Fuck off. I'm not a cat
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>>60302388
Definitely looks like one of our shitposters, like that guy obsessed with Pasille.
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>>60302401
Want me to pet your head, ca/tg/irl?
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>>60302407
It's not just the one poster, it's the start of the entire thread that follows, and the controversy spilling into subsequent threads.
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>>60302411
As long as you're fine with me having a penis
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>>60302411

Yes, let's!
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>>60302380
>then you are wrong
lol, anon. That's not how truth works. One of us is right. No if, ands, ors, or buts.
I don't care to see if I'm actually right and if I am wrong then I am wrong. This is my educated guess and inclination for this situation.
But right here you are no better than I. It was you who said it was just one guy, starting this debate. Where is your proof for such a statement? Why must I prove to you that I'm right when you will not show mutual respect especially having instigated this? Overlooking the fact that even if shown proof, we will both most likely continue to believe what we will.
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>>60302388
Oh damn, he's going back to the beginning of Celt waifu drama.
Well, ZBG made them, but it was a collab so this technically isn't a false statement.
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>>60302431
>It was you who said it was just one guy
nope, im not the person you were arguing with, I just noticed someone going "I dont have prove anything! you prove it!" like an autist

>thats not how truth works
it is however how argumentation works

the magical pink unicorn in my attic may well exist, but unless I prove it to the world it may as well not
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>>60302488
>Schrodinger's unicorn
But by using logical and educated fucking guesses based off information at hand, I can say you'e full of shit. And yes, I am being autistic here, but I see no issue in returning what is given in kind.
Fuck the high road, I'm just here to have fun.
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New thread
>>60302473
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>>60302511
Danke
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>>60302510
>But by using logical and educated fucking guesses based off information at hand, I can say you'e full of shit.
hence the burden of proof

things do not exist until proven to exist
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Celt. Gil-kun. Stop fighting.
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>>60302779
Lover quarrel, sorry.
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Any good suggestions for where to find images to use? Beyond "just google it" I mean, because I can seriously get distracted for entire days just browsing through image search results or following links on xeviantfart
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>>60302827
There's a whole list in the pastebin bro, check it out
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Screw you guys I'm going to bed
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>>60302827
Pinterest actually has some interesting aesthetic pictures pop up, although it's not so good for specific searches it's ok for just like categorical searches.
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>>60302827
artstation is pretty good, 90% of it is high-quality but alot of the artists are kinda shit at tagging their stuff, so expect to be trying out a lot of different searches.
Also, the Imaginary Network on Reddit is a godsend if you're looking for cyoa stuff.
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>>60299745
rip in pee sweet tok




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