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First for Techno union.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW4OIHDsWsM
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>>60308207
>>60308283
>he still didn't link unlimited power

smdh do i have to do everything around here
https://pastebin.com/bjD6A8TF
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>>60308662
in my defense you didn't link the link for me to link it
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SERENNO WILL RISE AGAIN!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LArGlfEVYqM
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How would the plot for an Imperial backed coup on Alderaan work out? Did all the nobles fall in line behind the Organas?
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>>60308530
A+ shitposting.
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You are now aware of why they were called Tie Fighters
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>>60308787
Something like this
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>>60308947

Rebel liar. You didn't include the part where Alderaan shot first.
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>>60308964
I distinctly remember the Rebel navy gathering their forces over Alderaan too. They opened fire on the Palpatine and Tarkin Wumbo Justice Sphere.
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>>60309015
Don't you mean the peace moon?
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>>60308787
The Galactic Empire doesn't usually do half-measures like coups. If it isn't the Death Star or BDZ, it's AT-ATs, bombers, and precision bombardments. Alderaan was not totally loyal, as we saw with the pro-Imp Celchu family and many other Alderaanian military personnel before Yavin, but I don't know how many of them were true nobility. They might have been used as the vanguard of an Imperial military response in a less oppressive Empire, laying siege to House Organa holdings and arresting or executing House Organa personnel/allies, but immense bloodsheed would still have been inevitable due to the massive, pro-Rebel population of expats stranded on-planet by Imperial travel taxes.
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Is he right anons?

also why the fuck my peepee hard!?
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>>60309123
because you have shit taste, anon
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>>60309123
No, she'd probably just kill the guy giving the bill and then kill you. Dark Siders tend to be assholes like that.
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>>60309161
>Thinks Ventress is shit taste
>probably jacks off to Ahsoka
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>>60309279
>implying the shit tier psuedo loli could ever be above shit tier

No you silly anon, ahsoka and ventress are just as bad as each other.
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>>60309303
Ventress is Prime Tier anon
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I'm putting together a starfighter game for D6, and I'm torn between having the players start out stationed on dirtside base or a carrier (probably an MC80 or a Neb-B). Would one of these work better than the other?
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>>60309398
Base that's actually a mostly buried mC80 with a pile of 'built on' additions. That way you can move things if the game gets weird but you don't want to give them a failstate but make them work for it.
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what's your excuse, /swg/?
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>>60309477
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>>60309477
LINK

Are there pictures of these on the table?

Are there B1s too?
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>>60309520
why yes, there are

just google mel's miniatures
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>>60309477
>>60309486
Unless they're 1/12, this is way too expensive.
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>>60309556
Perfection.
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>>60309572
that's the price of third party 3d printing, unfortunately
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>>60305390

Fucking THANK YOU. I'm sick of hearing this buzzword shit over and over.
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>>60309687
Don't bring this over to this thread.
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>>60309579
Ok these I could get behind.
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LONG LIVE THE CONFEDERACY OF INDEPENDENT SYSTEMS!
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>>60309939
HURRAH, HURRAH FOR INDEPENDENT SYSTEMS HURRAH, HURRAH FOR THE BONNIE BLUE FLAG THAT BEARS A SINGLE STAR!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy5A29KR16o
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>>60309963
FOR CORPORATE RIGHTS HURRAH!
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>>60309398
I'm a bit disappointed MC80 hangers look so bland considering Mon Cal design. (I know this shit existed since in ROTJ)
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http://www.springhole.net/writing/marysue.htm
Fill this out for a Star Wars character (skip sections 2-4 since the characters aren't donut steels) and share results
Hondo got 30
>High-to-very high chance your character is a Mary Sue. Risky range to be in
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Damn this thread is already shit
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Let's talk about spaceships and campaigns, then
So I want to run an AoR adventure where the PCs are sent by the NR to get some random planet's defense forces' shit together, including training pilots for the couple dozen lend-lease starfighters the NR dumped there with them.
Anyone have any experience with/suggestions for this kind of game?
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>>60310416
Ran Rey through it, got a 94.
>Fanfiction & MMO/RPG/Original Fiction: Your character is almost certainly a Mary Sue, and a bad one at that.
Did the same to Luke and got a 25.
>MMO/RPG/Original Fiction: Low-to-moderate chance your character is a Mary Sue.
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>>60310906
Well of course it's going to be shit if you post shit, delete that image at once!
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>>60310994
Lol
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>>60310975
1: Let it start out as a planet of secondary value to the Empire so the players don't have to deal with start destroyers and storm troopers from square one.

2: Throw in some local politics to give the diplomat-players some fun

Also, it could be fun if the system had, say an old Dreadnought that could be fixed up and upgunned to be a creditable force to be reckoned with.
Players often seem to enjoy the whole kitbashing thing.
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>>60310975
Base it off the Onderon episodes in TCW. Basically read up on the Soviet-Afghan war and how the Afghans were trained.
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>>60310994
I ran Luke rather conservatively and still got a 53.
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>>60311109
Anon of House 4chan, I name you liar.
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>>60311008
Too late.
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>>60310975
Based on everything I've ever heard from people who've been on those kinds of missions before, there's basically three ways it can go
a): The locals are a bunch of crazy fearless bastards who could probably beat the whole empire themselves if the NR would just give them enough fucking support
b): the actual local soldiers are great but their officers and the local government officials are all totally fucking terrible and will actively sabotage the PC's efforts and trainees for their own benefit
c): The trainees suck, the local government sucks, the only thing the PCs would like more than dying right now would be watching all these fuckers die first
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Why can the mon calas shit out so many ridiculously good cruisers while the rest of the alliance struggles with garbage tier corvettes?
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>>60311346
Their cruisers are pretty organic, and doubtless the mon-cal bowels are pretty weird. Maybe they're literally shitting out those cruisers.
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>>60311346
The Mon Calamari are from a water world so they're used to thinking about combat in 3 planes. This is also why there's so many mon calamarian admirals.
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>>60309939
DIE CIS SCUM
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>>60308507
Does anyone have some cool customized models?

Due to a misunderstanding of size, I've got a bunch of guns that are too big to pimp out my Lambda shuttle with.

I'm going to make a sick fucking Imperial Raider instead. It'll probably end up looking like it fell out of 40k, but w/e.

Do you guys have any custom x-wing, Legion, Armada, or IA models?
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>>60311346
>ridiculously good
They're not "ridiculously good," merely more durable than average. In most lore cases, they'll still lose to ISDs in a straight slugging match.
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>>60311619
For a civilian passenger liner refit by a single backwater planet to even come within spitting distance of the main warship of the galactic empire is ridiculous, and there are at least a few legends battles where they casually step all over ISDs.
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>>60311669
Mon Cal is not in any way a backwater, it's just out of the way.
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>>60311669
>backwater
The Mon Cal have been a spacefaring species for over 4000 years. They and their shipyards have had plenty of time to develop. "Backwater" is hardly an apt descriptor for one of the oldest known continuously operating shipyards in the galaxy. Legends MCs were also occasionally used as deep space explorers, hence their strong shields and hulls. That being said, without plot armor/author fiat, an ISD-II generally has a favorable lore match-up against an MC80-series ship in a gun duel just based on the numbers. The ISD-II usually has more turbos, can bring a greater proportion of its armament to bear on a single target, and is still shielded well enough to tank the MC's shots. When MCs win believably, it's due to some combination of better starfighters, numerical advantage, an ambush, or a better captain rather than the ship's individual merits.
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>>60312014
>4000 years
The age of the star wars universe always catches me off guard and I never keep track of it.
I always assume it's like 40k but it's really closer to mass effect
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>>60311346

The Mon-Cal were able to throw the Imperials off their world, and then keep them off, due to a) favourable space geography limiting the routes which an Imperial fleet could attack along (which were then FILLED WITH MINES) and b) the ease of retrofitting their civilian cruisers for military purposes.

This meant that the Mon-Cal could very easily retool their extensive shipyards for military duty while being largely safe from Imperial attack.
The Rebellion had very few, if any, shipyards capable of building large warships so had to make do with whatever smaller vessels they could build, buy, steal, or secure from friendly parties.
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>>60310994
>Ran Rey through it, got a 94.
Bullshit.

>Did the same to Luke and got a 25.
Also bullshit.
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>>60310394
I kinda wish we got to see more Mon Cal interiors in general.
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>>60293597
>>60301882
I guess my fears were unfounded
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>>60312014
It should also be said that a lot of the ISDs that the NR wrecked in the early days were warlord boats, which were mostly crewed by skeleton crews of bootfuck green conscripts lead by the bare handful of competent officers that the average warlord was able to retain and a bunch of usually incompetent but personally loyal goons to keep the conscripts in line.
The thing with the warlords is that while they were reasonably able to hold onto hulls, they still suffered absolutely massive desertion rates from the crews of the boats, sometimes as high as 90%
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>>60312474
Fucking hell, arquitens have been awaiting reprint since fucking February, and rebel and imperial squads I since April and Legion stuff reprints in under a month. Why does FFG seem to hate Armada, I just don't understand.
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>>60312540
Source? While it’s believable that desertions would have been common enough, 90% is one hell of a claim.
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>>60312612
For what it's worth...
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>>60312620
There's definitely a lot of talk about mass desertions in the X-wing novels and WEG sourcebooks, and in the Essential Guide To Warfare, but I'm also curious to see where anon's 90% figure was mentioned
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>>60312620
>>60312741
I remember a bit from the Black Fleet Crisis books where there was literally one ex-IN guy on a warlord frigate and he was continually bitching about it
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>>60312741

I mean, I could see 'sometimes as high as 90%'. That's a mutiny as the crew take the ship from you. We've had real life ships with that sort of rate, it just doesn't stay in control of the captain in that case.
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>>60312540
>>60312741
>>60312816
90% compounded desertions over a 5+ year period seems pretty plausible to me, like a third goes in the six months immediately after endor, and then you lose half of the remaining old-timers before thrawn comes onto the scene, and after HE buys it, two-thirds of the remainder opt to fuck off for the deep core rather than fight under yet another warlord.
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>>60312925
I almost always run my games in the Successor era. Such a rich chance for adventure and rapid status-quo shifts. I also play the time up as a mercenary/pirate wet dream, like the golden age of piracy in space.
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>>60312957
>Successor era
Is that some other name for the warlord period or is that the period when the remaining forces of the Empire reconsolidate under Pellaeon?
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>>60312014
And humans have been spacefaring for 20000 years. So what is your point?
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>>60313085
Because they've pounded their space infastructure flat about fifteen times over that period, and star wars tech advancement is in no way linier?
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>No Ventress

FOR FUCKS SAKE FUNKO YOU HAVE 1 JOB
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>>60314244
I wouldn't be surprised if they do a villain wave with Dooku, Grevious, and Ventress.
Also:
>Funko
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>>60311346

Existing frames and infrastructure. Most worlds don't have shipyards of note and even pre rebellion were only working with headhunters and corvettes, so that's all they had to bring to the table.

This is why the second biggest contributors were the Sullustans, since they had even bigger shipyards and an abundance of large frames as well, meaning while their ships were smaller than ISD's or MC80's, they could at least pump out something kind of in that range of scale.

The empire made it REALLY HARD for independent entities to actually produce good fighters or cruisers before the war began, so most groups were limited to either stuff that was good during the clone wars, a few designs that were able to make it past imperial eyes, existing large ships made for civilian purposes that needed new armor and weapons, or what could be built in secret.
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>>60314405
Don't forget Dreadnaughts, there were tons of those things around, but no non-governmental organization could scrape up the manpower to keep one going, hence the rebel assault frigates
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>>60314244
>F U N K O
>U
>N
>K
>O
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2nd wave for X-wing 2.0 when? I want to convert my FO/Resistance shit but FFG doesn't want my money
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>>60314844
Hopefully never.

Fuck X Wing.
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>>60314844
Soon I hope. My Umbrella Corp/Biohazard TIE/SF

Also I've got a bigass FO collection (7 TIE/FO, 3 TIE/SF, 2 TIE Silencers, 1 Upsilon) that I can't wait to start flying again.

My guess is 1 month after wave 1, in early October.

We do know multiple (so 2) new ships for each ST faction.

My guess is
- FO Interceptor
- FO Bomber
(We saw these 2 in holograms in TLJ, Bomber in promo material)
- RZ-A2 A-wing
- Rebel B-wing Resistance Transport

Here's hoping that the FO Interceptor is that backwards wing concept art one. If it's that one, I'll buy 3 on the spot.
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>>60315370
What, did a womp rat crawl up your anus and die?
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>>60315489
The First Order AS Umbrella when?
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>>60315489
>RZ-A2 A-wing
Does it even have a different model than the existing one?
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>>60311143
Nah, I just wasn't trying to achieve a presupposed conclusion.
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>>60315750
Neither was I.
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>>60315745
It will. It looks slightly different.
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>>60314844
>2nd wave for X-wing 2.0

Wave 1 for 2.0 isn't out yet. Hell, 2.0 ISN'T EVEN OUT YET.

Seriously, throw some love at the Armada an IA players, their release schedules are pure suffering.

Did Masks and Ciphers ever come out?
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>>60315773
Anon of House 4chan, I name you liar.
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>>60316046
>N-no you!
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>>60315994
>Wave 1 for 2.0 isn't out yet. Hell, 2.0 ISN'T EVEN OUT YET.
What the fuck, I had no idea. I'm a casual player and I had no interest with x-wing 2.0 because all my models are from sequel trilogy so I'm just waiting for conversion set and new ST core box. I thought that 1st wave shit was already released
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>>60316232
Yeah dog, it's like two more months before any of it hits the shelves.
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How many planets in a sector? According to the still canon map, it’s about 50, but I know that new planets appear as the plot demands.
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>>60316453
Legends was approximately 1000 inhabited systems, but 90+% of those would be tiny obscure colonies with tiny populations and generally nothing of interest or value, so you're still probably looking at 50-100 worlds that actually matter
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>>60315489
FO will probably get the shuttle; not sure if anything has confirmed the presence of FO Bombers and Interceptors (the holos in the movie look like they're plain old TIE/in and TIE/sa)

They could easily claim the Silencer resculpt (it's smaller now; more "accurate" to the film) as the second FO ship, mostly because there really aren't any further options for the FO. Unless there's something from the Poe Dameron comic that I'm forgetting
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>>60316789
FO gets what shuttle? The Upsilon that we already have?

>>60316288
>>60316232
It comes out at Gencon (so 6 weeks) but since the 1.0 meta is pure cancer (Bombs, turrets, regen, defense stacking) people have been printing out 2.0 stuff and playing with estimated points costs.
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>>60309579
Well the models are all very high quality
Not just these, all of Mel miniatures really, so I think it's a fair price
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>>60316904
Not the Upsilon; the variant that debuted in the Poe comic and that Finn and Rose steal in TLJ
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>>60316962
Fuck, I hope not. I don't want any more fucking shuttles.

I just want this Interceptor, honestly. It looks super cool.
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>>60317146
I like it. Looks like a souped-up TIE Hunter.
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>>60317146
What about the FO TIE Bizarro?
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>>60315994
But only nobodies play those games
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>>60317162
HUNTER WINGS DON'T FOLD THAT WAY
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>>60317367
we're all nobodies here friend
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>>60310416

>>60310994
You're full of shit
I got 36 for Rey and 34 for Luke
>30-35 Points: High-to-very high chance your character is a Mary Sue. Risky range to be in.
>36-49 Points: Extremely high chance your character is a Mary Sue. VERY risky range.
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>>60317531
Probably ran her as an OC, fanfic, and RPG character just to weight the score.
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>>60317554
I mean, the guy literally says
>fanfiction and MMO/RPG/Original Fiction

for Rey, and just MMO/RPG/Original Fiction for Luke.
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>>60317554
Nope. Just answered the first section honestly. I think; I was going to add the original fiction segment to her before I doublechecked the rules, might have forgotten to uncheck some things there. brb
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>>60317591
Look at the score section again.
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>>60317596
I meant >>60310994 tried to weight the score
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>loved star wars as a lad and dreamed of being a badass rebel piolit
>now because of the new movies I love the empire (but not the first order)
Also can someone explain how we went from the death of palp to the new order? Wasnt the point to bring back the senate?
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>>60314244
>Funko
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>>60317628
I am >>60310994, dingus.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kqycODfqrs
So now that the dust has settled, what are the anons opinions on Rebels?
Was it good? Was it bad? Did it have any redeeming moments or downright terrible moments?
Imo this episode was shit till Obi wan showed up and its quality skyrocketed as soon as Ezra left for his homeplanet.
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Quick, I need a random dumb complication to throw at my AoR group for this weekend's game
They're a rebel line fighter squadron just after endor
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>>60317817
High command has decided they all need wives, and as a result they are getting issued some.
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>>60317817
A mcguffin breaks down on their fighters and the ship doesn't have any spares, you and oyur team must go to the nearest planet with tech on it to go and purchase a new Mcguffin or several but the last ones were just bought by mechanic team working for a local crime lord who had those mcguffins put in his prized fighters which happen to be the stake in this nights high stakes pazaak tournament on planet.
Will your team either steal the parts, the fighters, join the pazaak circuit or do something more creative?
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>>60317740
>Also can someone explain how we went from the death of palp to the new order? Wasnt the point to bring back the senate?

Long story short, the Empire "gave up" and conceded defeat a year after Endor. While the majority of the Imperial Remnant stuck around in their own cordoned off section of space and the New Republic went on to do its thing, the Imperial zealots and hardliners went off into the Unknown Regions and started building up what would eventually become the First Order. While they built up, they also secretly drew people in to their cause, leaving the New Republic toothless to prepare for the second coming of the Empire. Leia warned people about the First Order for years, but because of their own power base among the Senate, she was outed as Vader's daughter and forced out of the Senate, at which point she started the Resistance we see in the Sequel Trilogy.
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Upon redoing it, I got a 15 for Luke and a 59 for Rey. Desuifiers are grand.
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>>60317763
>I am dingus
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>>60317868
The toothlessness was on Mon Mothma. Fucking NuCanon.
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>>60317918
The beginning of it was on her, but everything as it was in the decade or so leading up to TFA is on First Order plants specifically stopping the Republic from looking too far into the First Order situation like Leia was trying to get them to do.
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>>60317868
So in a way... the First order is the rebel now?

Also what appeal did the empire have if it was recruiting all these people for the first order while at the same time hating a chick for being vaders daughter? how bad was the republic fucking up for this to happen?
This seems really ass backwards
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>>60317986
>This seems really ass backwards
It is. The whole crux of the ST is "We need to do Rebels versus Empire again" and all that other stuff is just working backwards trying to justify doing it again. Fuck Abrams and fuck Kasdan.
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>>60317802
Pretty good at best and inoffensive at worst but Ahsoka and everything she touches is fucking cancer.
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>>60317986
The FO did not recruit, it indoctrinated. At the time Leia's reputation was ruined the FO was still a secret.
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>>60317986
A lot of the people that they recruited were former Imperials anyway, or at least people from the worlds that the Empire actually did good things for, or at least worlds that prospered under the Empire. Between that and the fact that the New Republic was far more decentralized so as to be mostly toothless in any interplanetary conflicts, they longed for what was essentially their "glory days." The First Order promised them that.
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>>60318018
>Fuck Abrams and fuck Kasdan.
What do you mean? How do you not like a movie who doesn't give us good characters, purposely ignores its most dedicated fans (who spend the most cash) and calls you a nazi if you don't spend money on it?

Clearly you are the problem
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>>60318078
>or at least people from the worlds that the Empire actually did good things for
So all of them
plz no flame war. is joke
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>>60318042
>The FO did not recruit, it indoctrinated.
You can't have something that size and complex entirely based on the enslaved.

Like irl pirate ships weren't mainly made of kidnapped sailors, it was made of volentary mobs working together, escaped slaves, the poor, protestants, the enemies of the spanish empire, etc
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>>60318222
We do know that the armies and most of the workers were trafficked to the First Order as children and raised to be soldiers, as proposed by Hux's father. They did employ slave labor as well, including scientists and engineers.
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>>60318222
The people that were not enslaved were holdovers from the original empire. As far as every source points, it is a pool of child labor and child soldiers.
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>>60318222
What did he mean by this
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>>60318273
>child labor and child soldiers
I may have done conscription raids, but at least I didn't use child soldiers.
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>>60317303
I'm more interested in those Advanced looking things chasing the FO/Bizarro
>>60317146
I want them so bad.
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>>60318273
>Hux, you enslaved a child...?
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I've got a store tournament this weekend, what would be a good list to bring that's competitive but not complete and utter bullshit cancer?
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>>60318702
Why not play cancer in a competative setting?
You want to win in that setting.

Obviously if you were playing with a friend with no stakes you want a fun list, but here is a place where you are expected not to hold back and won't be shamed for it.
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A bunch of not suspicious at all five star reviews started pouring onto TLJ's RT page within the last couple days, months after it left theaters. The ABSOLUTE STATE of Mouse Wars.
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>>60318796
Good point, so what's the most competitive cancer list I should bring?
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>>60318912
Bruh, look at these doods.
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>>60318912
>caring about NuWars
They ain't getting my money thats all I know
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>>60318927
Likewise. It's just mental what they're doing is all. And now, of all times.
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>>60318942
https://twitter.com/ninjazombie/status/1007163984473014273
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>>60318942
well take it to /tv/ please
1. I don't want to be reminded of that onions field
2. This isn't the place for movie talk
3. The Sjw authoritarian mods with star banning
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>>60318912
>>60318926
It's probably not Disney - they don't really have any reason to do this, the movie's done and out of theaters and is now (or rather, it's been out for over a month, two for digital HD) on home release.

It's far more likely it's probably a script kiddie testing things out.
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>>60318959
looks like a bunch of randos spamming both ways to me
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>>60313893
Sure it is. It's just so fucking minimal it's almost flat and their tech increase is so incredibly fucked that they make wh40k look like snappy clever esearchers.
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>>60318924
Just play ghost/fenn. Anyone who's still playing 1.0 deserves it.
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>>60318987
>I don't like liberal propaganda so I'm going to be a Star Trek fan
Good luck with that.
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>>60319202
It's on the level of complaining about the democrats and then moving to canada
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>>60319034
t. KotORbabby
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Why is the Defender so good, when the Interceptor is peak TIE aesthetics? Is it feasible to make a custom Interceptor as good as a Defender?
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>>60319429
I think Legends wise Grand Admiral Zarin, Vader, and Raith threw enough money to develop them. The interceptor was going to phase out the orginial TIE fighter, so maybe the Defender/Avenger would have filled the Interceptor's former role in the imperial fighter bay. Shields and a hyper drive were common upgrades following the Thrawn campaign, but this was an effort to reduce losses.
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>>60314244

>unironically wanting a Funko pop

Have you considered taking a bath with a toaster?
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>>60319429
I guess the Silencer is what the Interceptor was going to end up as?
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>>60319583
But the Silencer is soooo much uglier than the Interceptor. It makes me sad.
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Any suggestions for bodyguards, hired guns, and enforcers a classy, well-to-do crime lord could have in his retinue?
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I'll just leave this here
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>>60319730
A pair of SBDs augmented with modern repeating blasters.
Nemoidan accountants
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>>60319730
An army of classy trandoshans and weequay in ballroom dresses would be hilarious.
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How is corelian conflict? Thinking of getting it to play with friends.
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>>60319758
>vivian from the young ones
fuck I loved that show
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>>60318912
Dont act like the otherside doesnt do it too
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>>60320979
>Kinomatic
That's not a bot or a shill. That's a frogposter.
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>>60321026
What difference does it make? It's shit either way
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>>60321187
But it's not shit that's part of a sustained flood of one line reviews meant purely to alter the rating.
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>>60318926
>Theodore%20
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>>60312240
>The Mon-Cal were able to throw the Imperials off their world, and then keep them off
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What does a TIE-/d/ look like?
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>>60322411
A ball with tentacles?
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>>60321875
That was the start of the occupation, he was talking about the end
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What’s a good resource for learning about ships, particularly freighters? Looking to find something that’d make a good smuggling ship.
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>>60322717

Open the "older Star Wars tabletop" pastebin in the OP, go the D6 pdfs mediafire, and look for Galaxy Guide 06 -- Tramp Freighters.

Alternately, for FFG, check Fly Casual and Enter the Unknown. Enter the Unknown is how I found out about my favorite explorer-easily-converted-to-smuggler ship, pic related.
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>>60322767
Just what I was looking for, thanks.
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>>60322472
And the ball is a boob. A boob with a shitting dick nipple.
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>>60322779

You think that's good, wait till she starts taking it off.
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The E-9 is a blessing.
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>>60323048
It's definitely a comfy qt.
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Sienar spice habit confirmed!
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>>60308530
The prequels weren't great, but god damn did we get some cool aliens and planets.
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Does anyone have a scan of Dawn of Rebellion? I need to get my mitts on that Clone Trooper tree.
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>>60318454
Do growth-accelerated clones count?
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>>60323758
Don't know about a scan but I have the book.
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>>60323949
Truly, the basedest. Could you upload the other trees as well?
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>>60324005
I'm interested in the Padawan first and foremost.
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>>60324005
Alright let's see

>>60324087
I figured that would be most people's next choice.
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>>60324193
This should be the last one
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>>60324212
Thank you very much, anon. It's all very intriguing.
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>>60324193
>knows the ropes
>the ropes

sensiblechuckle.gif
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>>60324230
Force Adherent (>>60324176) is the one I'm least sure about. I guess if you want lore without being force sensitive. The picture with it is the blind guy from Rouge One.

>>60324281
Don't want to get turned into profit yourself
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>>60317802
March 5, 2018 is a day I will always remember. It was the day I became cynical, bitter, and distraught. You may call it an overreaction for me to feel this way simply because of the presentation of a single television series, but let me explain what all of this means to me.

My life was thrown off balance and I never regained my footing after that day, because I lost my ability to respect. An essential part of being human is to feel respect for those who may or may not be deserving of it. But it is equally human to feel painful disillusionment when someone or something you respected turns out to be much less than you thought. But the level of betrayal I felt when the Rebels series finale aired tore something from me that I'll never be able to recover. They tore away my ability to respect anything, and they tore away my ability to feel human.

The pain I felt from this betrayal has destroyed me on an emotional level, and has deprived me of my primary source of entertainment. No longer can I watch Star Wars without remembering the day I ceased mattering to people I devoted myself to. Lucasfilm had not just destroyed me or their company, they had destroyed the one force of stability in the galaxy: Trust.
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>>60324349
Is this pasta?
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>>60324366
Yes.
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>>60317802
I for one welcome Ahsoka as our Grey Jedi overlord.
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>>60324349
The only mistake they made was not killing her. Dave Filoni just doesn't know how to end a fucking arc.
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Are there any stats for clone troopers, or are you just supposed to use generic humans? Or would mando humans be more appropriate?
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>>60324639
I use 3/3/2/2/2/2 humans with two ranks in any skill they'd be trained in when they're enemies, but i make them use appropriate cover, use grenades and concentrate fire, i.e. fight better than most
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>>60324664
I meant for player characters, but this is good advice for enemies. Thanks for sharing it.
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>>60324422
>Ahsoka
>Grey Jedi

Pick 1, all she does it mutter about how shes "not a jedi" while doing jedi sfuff

No Balance of the force there

DD Ventress is a MUCH better example for "Grey Jedi" as she used both sides of the force, and did good deeds despite being a darksider and ex-sith
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>>60324918
>used both sides of the force
That's not how a Grey Jedi is supposed to operate.
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How many cubic meters is one point of "Encumbrance Capacity" in EotE? The reason I don't know is that I like knowing ship statistics and have never played EotE
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>>60325025
Indeed.
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>>60323758
It's literally in the OP
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>>60325045
It's deliberately left vague to suit the purposes of narrative over crunch
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>>60324837
Human or Mando Human, or Corellian for a pilot. Clones aren't really "unique" enough to justify their own stats.
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>>60325111
Ballpark?
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>>60324837
Oh, for humans, anything works-they're probably most fluffy as regular humans, but anything works. As far as i know, there's no official statline.
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>>60320306
It's really fun at first, kind of tapers over time until the big dramatic ending.

You start out with major list-building restrictions, which is a cool way to make you fly unorthodox fleets. And keeping ships alive matters, which makes you fly differently - if you can bring down the Rebel flagship, or eliminate Howlrunner, they'll be crippled or entirely dead henceforth. Conversely, getting your ships and squadrons out in one piece has big payoffs as they become veterans, so you can't toss them into the meat grinder like usual.

Downsides are that you're stuck with the same fleet over and over, and the winning team can tend to snowball, but by the time it wears thin you get the big silly climax which is a fun afternoon. It's written to have each player continually bring in reinforcements from hyperspace, so nobody can get eliminated early and the game moves faster since not everything's on the table at once.

Also, the objectives/squadrons it in are pretty useful to have around if you ever play tournaments.
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Anybody have any cool artwork of Astromech droids?
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>>60325045
When they were converting from WEG they generally used one metric ton=1 encumbrance for freighters, but nothing star wars has ever measured cargo space in M3 so you're shit out of luck on that front
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>>60323358
Where?
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Crait basing Legion guy here.
I know it might not be how it works but what if I did red footprints on the bases behind the models?
Just to break up the monotone a bit?
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>>60309123
Damn straight.
Except the days she wants it slow and gentle with hands held and lots of intimacy.
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>>60328127
Footprints in bases usually look cool, but they're deceptively hard to execute. (You can't just press the foot into the wet material, like you'd expect.)
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>>60328389
The way I'm planning to do it is like, I said earlier, use a lot of crackle paint and do the flat tops white.
And after thinking a bit more I want to "crust" the tops with very fine sand to imitate the salt. I was thinking of making footsize marks without the sand to create the illusion of indentations.
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>>60329251
And suddenly, 2e jam became good
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>>60329444
Empire seems like the jamming faction. Death troopers seem pretty good too.
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>>60329539
Fingers crossed for 2E missile boats to show up and allow players to SLAM and jam simultaneously.
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>>60329444
Strange, they changed the look of restrictions.
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>>60329886
The pictures in the preview directly contradict the same cards previewed alongside the conversion kit, so it seems they accidentally used older renders.
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I want to start play X-Wing and Armada, but Armada looks pricey and has no players while X-Wing is getting a new edition and I don't want to have to pay out the ass for conversion kits.

Wat do?
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>>60330696
Just start x-wing when 2.0 comes out
all expansions will get updated versions after a while
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>>60330696
If there's no Armada group near you (check Facebook, or any stores on the list of store championships), then give that one up. Armada's my favorite game, but a game you have nobody to play with is pointless. It's possible there's a group nearby you don't know about, though. Incidentally, it's only expensive to start, once you have a collection it's pretty cheap to stay up to date (even cheaper than X-Wing).

As for X-Wing, just wait. Second edition is out in three months, and you'll theoretically have the chance to learn the game alongside other new players rather than getting clubbed by a bunch of veterans.

There's always Legion, if you're into ground combat.
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>>60330696
Conversion kits are cheap- if you willactually fully use them (or if you sell the bits you don't need)

For 2.0, either buy a shitload of stuff now (either secondhand or normally) and get a conversion kit, or if you want a small collection, pick it up when it cones out in 2.0
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>>60329444

Yeah, Death Troopers on a Decimator is going to be really nasty. Just this massive health sink where you can't lose stress if you get too close to. So you've got to make real choices.

The Slicers seem to be a bit more flexible given that they only need one slot. It depends on if the Phantom has it's crew slot, or if the Bomber has a way of taking one. Put him on that, and take a couple of Jammer Gunboats, or a Jammer Defender.
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>>60331400
>>60329251
Death Trooper Decimator is going to be real as shit. If they let it get a third crew (we know 2crew 1Gunner) on release, Death Troopers+Sloane on a Deci will be mean as shit.
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What Star Wars RPG system can I run a game where the PC's are clones in the heat of battle?

https://youtu.be/QgR0tDwfBqs?t=1s
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>wanted to get tie reaper to run Scarif defenders fun list
>absolutely no synergy at all between the reapers and strikers, only works best alongside gunboats and other reapers and to get the most out of death troopers you need a large base ship
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I got my dad the X-wig starter set for his birthday and he'd like some more ships

I'm going with the rebel aces pack as we've only got the X wing right now, but I'd like to get him a fun ship for empire as he prefers them.

We're not super-competitive so meta isn't really an issue. What sort of empire ship should I get him?
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>>60334190
Do you plan to play in x-wing 2.0 (launches in 2 months) or no?
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>>60333303
They synergize in the sense that both of them have the same turning rate of 135° per turn, and similar dials. They are easy to keep together, with the Reaper and Striker strughle to do with other ships. The Reaper can hang in formation with the Striker.
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Why did nobody tell me this was a thing?
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>>60334275
unsure for now. flgs still has shit tons of 1ed Xwing stock.
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>>60334450
Eww, that's super gross. That's why you should never let white dudes run a fandom.
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>>60334328
they may stay in formation sure but is anything gained from such when no abilities of either one affect eachother and no benefit exists from staying in formation really?
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>>60334529
>Made and sold by the Japanese
>White dudes

Enjoy your (you)
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>>60334558
Japan is filled with problematic shit too, and besides that's mainly made for white dudes.
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>>60334551
It's a fast fighter and a support ship that can easily keep pace with it. Put Sloane on a Reaper, pair with 4 strikers. Now you don't leave the Reaper out to dry when it has to go fast, or vice versa with Strikers and a Lambda. Keeping multiple arcs on the same target will be super important again in 2.0.
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>>60334524
Well, notes for 2.0-
- If you buy it now and it's not a Wave 14 box, you will need a conversion kit to use it.
- FO and Resistancevare no longer part of Empire and Rebels in 2.0

Did you get the OT or the ST core set?

For best of both worlds, try the TIE Reaper and Saws Renegades boxes now- they come with both 1.0 and 2.0 stuff in them. (Wave 14, release on Thursday)
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>>60334962
Nani the fuck is this.
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>>60335025

Forget about it Anon. It's 4Chinatown.
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>>60335569
Wonder if it's meant to be in-universe Imperial propaganda. Not official Imperial propaganda, but made, say, on a HoloNet forum that started out being ironically pro-Empire then over time became """"""ironically"""""" pro-Empire. Propaganda meant to hide behind "It's just a joke, haha, it's for laughs, look at these charts".
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>>60334962
ngl I would definitely date a young Peter Cushing if he asked me out.
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>>60326940
https://twitter.com/missingwords/status/1007320199526154241

Please forgive me, I'm retarded.
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>>60335960
Actual source:
https://mangapark.me/manga/star-wars-lost-stars-claudia-gray

>>60335752
That's still a cool idea though.
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>>60337199
Someone ask him about Trioculus now.
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>>60334962
>>60335752
>>60337246
I wish I had time to write a light novel.

-I probably do, in fact. Should I?
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>>60337730
Do it, put us in another world with a fully armed and operational battlestation.
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>>60337730
Go right ahead. Regardless of how it comes out, it'll still be a thousand times better than most isekai.
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>>60329251
Is it just me or does Krennic 2.0 look worse than Krennic 1.0

First off the ability only applies to a ship Krennic has locked. Second, and more importantly, the ability is pointless against anything less than a Rebel Fenn list, because there's no reason any Imperial ace should not have a focus token at any given moment (think Vader and Soontir). You might as well spend the focus to get the extra hit.

Meanwhile Krennic 1.0 might be game breaking good. Spending a blank for a ship with no rerolls (once again, Soontir and ATC Vader) is effectively a free hit. Bonus for not being a token to get around Fenn bullshit.
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>>60338481

>Is it just me or does Krennic 2.0 look worse than Krennic 1.0

Answered your own question.

>Meanwhile Krennic 1.0 might be game breaking good.

Lots of things will be "worse" in 2.0, unless they were complete trash in which case they are reworked. But, also keep in mind, Krennic can flip crits, and 2E has a much more brutal crit deck now. It rolls into a lot of imperial emphasis, you'll need coordinated flying between parts to make things work, but when you do you can bring a lot of hurt.
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>>60338481
He is worse but hopefully it means he will be a cheaper upgrade for 2.0 than his 1.0 version
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>>60333271
honestly I would use Only War from 40k with a couple modifications, you can get all sorts of heavy weapon and specialized troopers plus with the regiment creation system you can make more specialized troopers
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>>60335752

The Empire doesn't need to hide its propaganda and it went full China on the Holonet just after Order 66.

Even the social media is state-run.
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>>60339267
I'm saying it'd be by genuine Empire supporters disguising their intentions behind a paper thin veneer of insincerity, not by the Empire itself.
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>>60338481
>You might as well spend the focus to get the extra hit.
Not necessarily. Optimized Prototype lets you strip one shield even if the attack doesn't hit. If my OP ship is firing at a Firespray that's reinforced, there's a decent chance that my attack won't hit normally and I'd be better off taking off his shield and saving my Focus token to defend against the retaliation shot.
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Anyone have any good sources for Star Wars themed character portraits? Looking for something Imperial pilot flavored, but Google gives me nothing but things with tits.
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>Imperial pilot
I got a few.
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>>60339325

They're too busy pretending to be Rebel sympathizers so they can lure out real sympathizers to report to the ISB.
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>>60339475
And get an ISB visit for being mistaken for the real deal?
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>>60339490
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>>60339504
Honestly, that would fit the ISB so perfectly.
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>>60339451
I'm looking for something male, with a cocky and/or thrill seeker vibe to it. Alternatively something that screams "young spoiled noble brat/playboy" would work as well, since that's going to be the character's background.
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>>60339513
>"young spoiled noble brat/playboy"
Alright, that narrows things down a bit.
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Ok gang, how do you beat 100 point Miranda?
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>>60339533
You kidney-punch the other player for being That Guy.
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>>60339542
(not in flightsuit, but looks douchy enough to fit the bill)
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>>60339533
with hands and feet
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>>60339551
>>60339562
What if violence isn't an option?
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>>60339575
violence is always an option
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>>60339575
I'm assuming Miranda has TLT. Crew Boba + Adv. Homing Missiles can swat that. Also, Nym with Bomblet Generator and Trajectory Simulator.
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I have mixed feelings about the inclusion of an app being mandatory.

It is an interesting concept and creates new options, so there is there. But now you can't play without this digital thing they can update/break at any time.
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>>60339656

They're gonna have a printable version.
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>>60339604
I like you

>>60339621
How do you fly Nym well? I can never figure that out
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>>60339751
hm.
Maybe acceptable.

all i had heard about for non-app function was that there would be some premade ships on cards, something like that, with no options

if they break all the functions out into a codebook or somethin' that you can use if you really want to and end up with results same as the app that is cool.
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When will Charles Soule stop being the best Marvel SW writer and let someone else have a turn
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If you were deciding whether to get into X-Wing 2.0 fresh -- owning no 1.0 models -- or get into Armada, which would you pick and why?
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>>60339558
>if only you knew how bad things really are.holo
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>>60340247
If you have a community for it nearby, armada all the way. It's only real flaw is a slow release schedule.
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>>60339513

I give you Baron Valen Rudor.
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>>60338481
Yes 1.0 Krennic is more powerful than 2.0

1.0 Krennic is game-endingly powerful if he was released in any meta other than this current hyper-cancer one that we live in.

2.0 Kennic is OK.
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>>60339533
100 point Miranda currently has no bad matchups. It's the best list in the game for a reason.

Either play a Fatter regenerator (Fatter miranda, or Corran) to win on time, or be drastically better at the game than then.

Just wait for 2.0 to free us.
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>>60340247
2.0- Because of the easier access to playgroups.

Also, x-wing is a lot faster game in terms of pacing. Armada is honestly kind of boring.
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>>60339472
>no qt imperial piolet to come home to you after a long day of killing rebel scum
>she will never dominate you, and ride you for stress releif
>she will never call you her "Tie-d fighter"
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>>60340328
>>60340475

Excellent. Now let me reframe the question to more closely fit my actual situation:

I live in a big city and have local X-Wing and Armada playgroups. I don't play regularly anymore due to transportation issues but those will be resolved quite soon. I do have a somewhat substantial X-Wing collection mostly dating back to Wave 1 and earlier:

1x Original Core
3x X-Wing
2x Y-Wing
1x A-Wing
1x Millenium Falcon
4x TIE Fighter
2x TIE Advanced
1x Slave 1
2x B-Wing
1x TIE Bomber
1x Lambda Shuttle
1x HWK-290
1x Imperial Aces
1x TIE Defender
1x Rebel Transport
1x Rebel Aces
1x TFA Core
1x Sabine's TIE
1x TIE Silencer

So the question now is whether I should catch up with X-Wing in 2.0, or start on Armada. Considering the state of my X-Wing collection I feel like starting Armada and getting up to speed on X-Wing are probably both sufficiently expensive that a price difference is more or less immaterial.
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>>60340685
X-wing if you trade around so that you have solely ships you actually like is going to be cheaper.

IE- you have no scum sans that firespray.

An imp core and an Rebel core is $100, you buy that and then sell the stuff that you can't use.

It'll probably only cost $50 to get that all fully converted into 2.0.

As an example, you have a spare defender, or 3 spare Gunboats in the empire conversion kit- ships that will likely be in high demand.
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>>60340876

I feel weird about trading in X-Wing.

Anyway, assume price isn't an issue. Assume I'll have enough money that price doesn't matter. Which would you pick then?
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>>60340932
x-wing still?

armada feels boring to play, as more of te game is decided in the first 5 minutes.beofre the game, it just takes a bit to play out.

but yeah, even if it's not trading/selling parts of the conversion kits, swapping spares with freinds makes it cheaper too.

hell, X-wing 2.0 will likel only cost you $50 or less- your actual choice is "do I also want to do armada"

Which is best answered by how much you want to play another game
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>>60317802
shit, but with glimpses of what could have been greatness basically whenever maul shows up. I never really felt strongly about ahsoka but i loathed that little black hole. honestly i feel one of the problems was that filoni seemed to have too much leeway, generally a bad thing for star wars historically.
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Stopped playing X-Wing since Wave 8. What new in the second edition?
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> i loathed the little black hole that was ezra
sorry anons going to bed now.
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>>60317802

It was okay. TCW was much better, but Rebels was about as good as one could have hoped for in the George-less future that was chosen for us.

While season 1 was airing, I thought it was rough but showed promise. Episodes written by Greg Weisman were flawed but fun. Episodes written by Henry Gilroy were god-tier. And episodes written by Kevin Hopps were pure cancer. Then we got the three-part finale where everything came together and it was AMAZING, and I had nothing but hope for the future. Tarkin was a great villain, and I honestly wasn't expecting him to leave already -- we didn't get enough of him.

I saw Siege of Lothal at the world premiere at Star Wars Celebration Anaheim. Loved it. And season 2 got off to a strong start. But about halfway through season 2 I noticed something: the show was losing its original identity and leaning on these returning characters like Ahsoka, Rex, Vader, and even Hondo as almost a crutch. Episodes focused on the new characters felt weaker. Episodes that involved established characters were better, but it felt like the established characters were bailing the show out of trouble. That said, I'm convinced Twilight of the Apprentice is still one of the best hours of Star Wars animation I'll ever see.

Season 3 felt kind of lost at the start. But it was saved by two returning characters -- because at this point, Rebels had given up on having its own identity. Thrawn and Maul were both magnificent and their episodes were amazing, largely thanks to them being amazing. Everything else was just...blah.

Season 4 started weak. I don't think I liked any of the two-parters in the first half. But once we went back to Lothal? It was like the whole show finally came alive. For the first time, it felt like everyone involved was really seriously giving it their all, and the show roared to a very strong finish, tarnished only by seeing Hera's little hellspawn.
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>>60317802
I can't stand it. I watched two season of it, but I couldn't stand it.

I despise the art direction. The Kenner TIE Fighters, giraffe-necked Star Destroyers, and the toothpick lightsaber blades all bother me (the Inquisitor uniforms were neat, though).

I despise the Empire being comedically incompetent outside of a very small amount of characters. And then you have Imperial characters like Kallus who *are* competent but, of course, go rogue. Weak, worthless villains make a dull story.

I despise the asspull survival of Ahsoka, despite the initial suspicion of her death being a great end.

I despise most of the cast aside from Kanan and maybe Hera. Sabine was fine, but I hear she got worse later on.

I'm not going to tell anyone they're wrong for liking but, but I couldn't stand it. To me, one of the worst things to come out of Disney's Star Wars acquisition.
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>>60342089

>To me, one of the worst things to come out of Disney's Star Wars acquisition.

I don't think you realize how stiff the competition for that title is, considering that it's up against the sequels, the Aftermath trilogy, Marvel's Chewbacca, Marvel's Mace Windu, the decision to go back to just "big 5" articulation points on the 3.75" action figure line, EA's video game attempts, and Salvador Larroca's art on the main Star Wars comic.
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>>60329444
I't a bit pissed this isn't an Imperial Only upgrade, given the fucking name ans flavor of the card.
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>>60342128
I'll admit, there's some hyperbole there, especially since I'm not really familiar with the comics outside of the first dozen issues of Darth Vader.
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>>60342089
>I despise the Empire being comedically incompetent outside of a very small amount of characters. And then you have Imperial characters like Kallus who *are* competent but, of course, go rogue. Weak, worthless villains make a dull story.

This is basically the crux of Rebels's plot issues. The empire doesn't feel like a vast military machine or a huge threat when the same six or seven admirals and commanders show up and then just lose every week until they unceremoniously die. Thrawn showing up to pretend to be competent is cool but he works so slowly in a serialized medium it takes him a half dozen episodes to even reveal he has a plan, and a whole season just to launch an actual attack of substance that's hamstringed at every turn because literally EVERY IMPERIAL UNDER HIS COMMAND is dangerously incompetent from the communications officers not notifying him of security breaches to the treasonous intelligence officers to the glory seeking admirals who literally can not pull a victory even with routine numerical advantages and technological superiority. Yeah he has Rukh and Pelleon but Rukh has to get by as the literal only competent person on the battlefield and Pelleon only shows up as an aside because competent fleet officers outside of that one strong black woman who also knows kung fu are absolutely haram.

The show is so fucking blatant in it's stupidity that by the last episode an entire squad of stormtroopers burst into a room full of named characters, caught them by surprise and opened fire at point blank range, and none of their shots came within a foot of their intended targets who don't even bother taking cover.

When Filoni does what he actually gives a shit about it can be cool, and when he has resources that actually work it can be cool. But when he doesn't have the resources or story leeway to do any real battles it's just embarrassing.
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>>60342145

Hey, idiot, what fucking symbol is that on the bottom left.
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So I'm looking into WWII and post WWII history for reference and is it just me or is the galaxy kind of fucked even without some big doom army after the GCW ends? The empire basically drained the galaxy for it's armada and armies and then the rebellion basically had to smash a bunch of it just to realistically deal with imperial strongholds and infrastructure. Half the galaxy would be on heavy rationing and the other half would be out of a job because their factory got converted to make AT-AT's and then bombed out by rebels. Then you factor in the previously wealthy alien worlds like Cato Neimoidia that got fucked over by the empire and basically the whole galaxy is broke and starving.
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>>60342154

When it comes to the comics, anything with Soule's name on it is AT LEAST worth reading (if not excellent). Soule has his own Vader ongoing now that starts right at the end of ROTS. Everything else he does is magnificent except Poe Dameron, which just had a weak starting arc before getting good.

If you couldn't stick with Gillen's Vader, the only other Marvel Star Wars comics you might even want to consider are Cullen Bunn's Darth Maul and the recent Thrawn limited series -- Darth Maul is an excellent arc, while Thrawn is a 5-issue comic adaptation of Zahn's new Thrawn novel. Kanan's actually really good too, but if you don't like Rebels you won't like it.

Outside of these, if it's not by Soule, don't touch it.
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>>60342288
You forgot the civil war within a civil war where seemingly half the Admirals and Moffs broke away from the Empire and tried to loot as much of it as they could.
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>>60342322

Yeah, shit's basically fucked. Even in real life Britan didn't pay off it's WWII debts until like 2006 and they took way less of a fucking than half of Europe.

The novels kind of brush off how absolutely fucked Dac gets through the course of Dark Empire and Jedi Academy but odds are the Mon Calamari are generations away from rebuilding fully from a full scale fucking like that, never mind the rest of the war emptying out their coffers and getting half their best and brightest killed off via space laser.

Shit it'd probably have made more sense for the NuRepublic to call off the war because they couldn't afford it more than anything else.
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>>60342407
>implying the Empire wouldn't call off the war for inability to afford it first
The New Republic took the majority of the Core relatively quickly post-Endor, leaving the Empire largely with just the sticks north of Coruscant.
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>>60342428

Which means the empire had that territory for 23 years. Once the war really heated up half their populations were probably already on rations considering like half the core is industrial and needs to import food.

There's no vast unspoiled territory in this case. The empire fucked it all and then the war fucked it again.
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>>60342526
Aren't a lot of the major agricultural worlds also in the Core?
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>>60342526
And my point was that the Empire would run out of money well before the New Republic.
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>>60342555

Oh, but to be fair I specified NuRepublic instead of New for a reason. In the EU both groups kept going for like 20 years, which is another kind of disaster entirely.
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>>60342614
Next time, say NuNew Republic so it's clearer which New Republic you mean.
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>>60342202
Rebels is an example of one of those stories where the villains lose, not because the heroes are clever, but because the villains are stupid.
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>>60342304
I liked Vader, it's just that the first dozen is as far as I got.

I mostly liked it, although the Vader "replacements" were all super silly.
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>>60342649

In that case, finish Gillen Vader. It ran for a total of 25 issues. After that, Doctor Aphra got her own series written by Gillen, though he has now phased out to focus on taking over the main series from Jason Aaron, so he has given the book to Si Spurrier. If you think Aphra is cool, continue to her book.
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>>60342645

It's not even an issue with the heroes themselves, per se. Most of the characters are perfectly serviceable in their roles. Kanan is OK as a kinda-jedi in over his head. Hera works as a leader who butts heads with her crew. Ezra is alright as a would-be Jedi. It's just that those roles are way too small to actually do the things a star wars tv series needs them doing on the scale Filoni wants them doing it on.

Corwin Shelvay is probably the closest 1:1 comparison to Kanan Jarrus but the narrative makes sure he never faces the Inquisitor Tremayne in battle outside of his backstory and a prospective GM's encounter he'll probably lose, because a kinda-Jedi is designed to lose to an Inquisitor basically every time in that dynamic. Kanan basically fighting an Inquisitor every other week and neither dying becomes kind of ridiculous since they're both using highly lethal weapons.

It's the same reason Rogue Squadron fights LESS battles than a real life WWII fighter squadron in that timeframe. That shit is highly lethal and you need time to know who these people are before they die. Except Phoenix Squadron loses people so fast unless your name is Wedge or Hobbie you're basically guaranteed to die.

If you want a small crew on one ship on one planet keep it that way. You can't have it both ways.
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>>60342713

>Corwin Shelvay is probably the closest 1:1 comparison to Kanan Jarrus
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>>60342780

I used Shelvay instead because he was mostly just a random bumfuck who happens to be a rebel, rather than a ranking general who had his own armed force and was able to functionally fight on his own.

Kota was a master of the jedi order and he carried the weight of such. He fought Vader's personal apprentice and not a random scrub. He by default had much more capability than someone like Kanan or Corwin or an equivalent "I'm kind of a jedi but never got knighted, here I am during the OT handling underlings because that's literally all I'm capable of" kind of character.
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>>60342808

That's true but I usually don't think of Kota as he was at the start of TFU. My first real exposure to Kanan was reading A New Dawn before Rebels even started. While Kanan may not have been much like Kota at his best, he was an awful lot like Kota at his worst, and the process of Kanan teaching Ezra often reminded me of Kota teaching Galen. Once Kanan was blinded, it really felt intentional -- like Dave was looking for a way to nod to The Force Unleashed without putting it in the show.
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>>60335752
IOC we had some stuff like this, but because Star Wars it was very Cold War or even earlier propaganda. Overacting, clear enunciation, soldiers not cussing...
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>>60339504
The reason the Rebellion gets away with shit is that the Empire is cracking down on a separate rebellion that’s all ISB. The Empire’s problem is that the ISB Rebellion is well funded, highly motivated, and has no problem with doing terror and decapitation strikes.

At least it makes for good propaganda.
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>>60343917
>the ISB Rebellion is well funded, highly motivated, and has no problem with doing terror and decapitation strikes.
And none of the ISB agents know that their fellow rebels are also just undercover ISB assets from other ISB offices.
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>>60343939
And because the ISB Rebellion is an actual threat the ISB keeps stepping up infiltration efforts. Well, at least the infiltration works.
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>>60340685
The short answer is pic related.

X-Wing and Armada are very different. Armada is slower, more strategic. It's about developing a strategy and then leaning back, watching it unfold to find out if it works.You need to think about turn 4 during turn 0.

X-Wing is more tactical, more immediate, more about anticipating your opponent. Reading what they're gonna do, what they expect you to do, and then capitalizing on that.

I assume you've played a good amount of X-Wing, given how much you own. If there's a local Armada community, walk in and ask for a demo, Armada players are absolutely addicted to teaching new players. That'll help you figure out which you'd prefer.
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Knights of Fate is gonna be in pre-orderer's hands Wednesday. How long does it normally take to find its way to the public?
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>>60344197
official release date is thursday
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>>60342202
>because literally EVERY IMPERIAL UNDER HIS COMMAND is dangerously incompetent from the communications officers not notifying him of security breaches to the treasonous intelligence officers to the glory seeking admirals who literally can not pull a victory even with routine numerical advantages and technological superiority.

Aint that the truth.




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