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*Blocks your path* edition

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>>60311771

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>admech is too expensive for a decent army
>thousand sons are shit
>eldar are too waacfag
sell me on your faction
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>>60311812
We're cheap and gold and decent on the table against non-comp faggots
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>>60311771
Alright /40kg/ settle the SoB discussion once and for all...

https://strawpoll.com/42w316as
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>>60311812
>sell me on your faction
No. You already think we're shit.
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>>60311812
We get consistent support.
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>>60311812
You like admech so just go buy recasts and reasonably workable used shit.
Everything is overpriced, whats the point of saving $200 at best on your second choice faction.
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>>60311812
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Which space marine chapters have the largest and smallest reproductive organs?
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>>60311771

Rules question
Is pic related a legal way to deploy a unit? Every model is within 2" of another within the unit which satisfies coherency.
It allows me to spread a unit over a massive area and threaten multiple objectives, while also allowing me to remove casualties from less-important areas.
For full effect, imagine with a unit of 30 Orks.
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>>60311840
i've been told or heard numerous times that they're shit unless you're using birds instead of rubrics (which is gay) and even then they're mediocre at best
>>60311843
>>60311829
who
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Goddamn these things can put out a lot of S4 for their point cost. I wanted to keep my marine army classic with no primaris, but these things are real tempting
Dakka fists or burny fists?
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>>60311812
No.
Work in yourself.
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>>60311875
>Is pic related a legal way to deploy a unit? Every model is within 2" of another within the unit which satisfies coherency.
they have to be chained together, not just within 2" of another model
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>>60311873
>largest
Salamanders
>smallest
Iron Hands
And a mention to Space Wolves as theirs is red.
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>>60311875
By the rules, yes, since they insist on relying on the vague term of 'a group'
No one on Earth would allow it though
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>>60311812
just get 2 admech start collecting boxes and some chickens
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>>60311876
>unless you're using birds instead of rubrics (which is gay)

That was preFAQ. Now with the beta strike nerf & no Warptime after deploying, birbs are shit.
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>>60311812

>Admech
>Too expensive

Maybe? The only really expensive models are the sydonian dragoons and you dont have to take more than 6 of them if you really dont want to.

AdMech's start collecting box is one of the best value boxes available. You want 2 Dunecrawlers in any list, and 3 Dunecrawlers at 2000 or more points. The first Tech priest Dominus is vital for every non Mars army, the other two can be very easily turned into Enginseers.

The Rangers/Vanguard are very versatile. Arc rifles shouldnt be underestimated and they are good enough at 7/8 points that you can spam them quite easily.

Outside of a start collecting box, Kastelan robots arent too expensive (and again, cut up that Datasmith into an enginseer).
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>>60311876

> Hating on Codex: Supreme Command Detachment

The book can be summed up as Ahriman, 3 Daemon Princes and Tzaangor/Shaman if you're feeling saucy.
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>>60311876
Blood Angels
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>>60311875
One unit can't contest two objectives.
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>>60311897
There's nothing in the text that demands a chain. Even the FAQ that answered this question failed to clarify the rule text to anything more precise.
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>>60311876
>unless you're using birds instead of rubrics (which is gay)
>implying
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What's the OP picture from? I'm digging those UM models.
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>>60311900
in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only BBC
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>>60311887
Dakka fists, especially with Raven Guard
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>>60311875
By letter of the rules? Sure.
By spirit of the rules, that formation makes Ork daisy-chains seem reasonable by comparison.
>t.Ork player
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>>60311873
Smallest: Imperial Fists, Dark Angels, Space Wolves
Largest: Salamanders,
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>>60311900
>Russ had a knotted dick
I didn't want to know this
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>>60311729
>>60311933
Thanks anons. Sounds like Razorbacks are the way to go.
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>>60311812
>Guard.
Pic related.
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>>60311812
>admech is too expensive for a decent army
Forgebane (Admech Only) is going for about 80.

Start Collecting is 80.

Literally can buy two and have 3 troops (one 10man Vanguard, 2 5man Ranger squads)

Buy 3 and you're golden as Dunecrawlers or Warglavies are solid.

(Tho I'd go 2 SC, 1 Forgebane as the Armigers won't provide CP)
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>>60311965
>Imperial Fists,
Hey now: the Fists are clearly 'average' in terms of organ size.
Agree on the Dark Angels tho.
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>abolish codexes
>abolish chapter approved
>strip fluff from main rulebook
>add all datacards and points costs to rulebook
>new releases and FAQs in free PDFs
>update rulebook every year, adding the new changes
>sell rulebook half price if you turn in the previous edition
Would you approve of this change... being a realistic compromise for a business to do instead of the ideal-for-us "no release everything as PDFs for free".
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>>60311812
not this game
pros: you aren't playing this game
con: not much really
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>>60311812
>Whiny little bitch
I'd rather not actually. Stay the fuck away from my most treasured army of plastic toy soldiers.
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>>60312024
>strip fluff from main rulebook
>abolish codexes
then what do they do with their official fluff? its their IP they want people to get interested in the setting, not just the game
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>>60311917
>Forgebane (Admech Only) is going for about 80.
where? ebay only has the the full necron side or chopped up pieces of the admech because everyone is trying to turbo jew the armigers
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>>60312024
>sell rulebook half price if you turn in the previous edition
This has no real purpose.

They'd be better making a "Collector's Edition" with the Summary of Fluff and Pictures as a stand alone book, and the rules in a smaller book.

The rule book is what's updated every year, and they can reduce price because it's only the rules and a 3rd the size.

>The one thing they did right in 7e
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>>60312061
Sell it separately. Package it in box sets and start collecting boxes.
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>>60312061
>interested in the setting
>ok fine, that seams reasonable
>6th onwards says otherwise
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>>60311812
Night lords look cool? Idk beyond that they're pretty much dumpster fire tier. Probably best to move along.
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>>60312024
I would love to have all the updated rules and army datacards in one book.
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>>60312064
>where?
I found a couple in the skim through eBay to find a price.

>Tho most are trying to cash in on the Armiger craze.
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>>60312024
no, the book will be ridiculously thick for a content that I will barely use.

The problem with codex is that models aren't balanced well and it trickle down as the latest codex ends up being the hottest shit after the initial 2-3 codexes being underwhelming at first.
I'm fine with removal of Chapter approved. Not really seeing the point of the book when it should just be a pdf
Fluff is irrelevant, but you probably don't want to ditch it purely for padding out the core rules
well, FAQ better be fucking free
Annual update is something you shouldn't aim for. If it needs it, it will need it, but not something it should be set in stone
Rule book turn in, eh. It's nice jesture, but I'm not begrudging any company for not doing that.
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>>60312024
>strip fluff from main rulebook

Nah. One of the things I loved about my Guard Codex was all the time and attention to different regiments besides "Guard" and "Cadia". Also, the pictures of models and the actual suggestions for ways to kitbash were great and I think all Codexes should have that stuff.

>Idea: Don't make the books fucking hardcover.
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Guys is this a man or a female. A retard in the old thread thinks it's a man for some reason.
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>>60311875
>idiots responding
>literally faq'd
Decent bait. Gottem
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>>60312137
It's a xeno, who gives a shit?
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>>60312137
It's generally unsafe to make assumptions with Elfshits
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>>60312137
its 2018 xe can be both or neither, stop being such a bigot.
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If i'm trying to include a pair of armigers in an admech army, how do I do it? in terms of detachments and rules
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>>60312137
Doesn’t matter it’s a filth Xenos
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>>60312150

I'm just saying that all male eldar tend to have more sharp features, while female eldar have very soft almost human looking faces. Even Yvraine's face just makes her look kind of like a punkish teenager rather than a full grown woman. So that's a female eldar.
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>>60312137
It's an attack helicopter.
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>>60312137
Looks like a man to me, but either way I'm happy because creepy androgynous Eldar are best Eldar.
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>>60312137
Hard to tell, but dont their female armor patterns have boob plates? Looks like male armor.
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>>60312194

I've been saying that it's sketchy, because it's clearly a portrait shot so anything below the neck isn't going to get very much if any detail, so without an actual bust picture to show if it's actually flat or not, it's safe to assume it's a female.
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>but dont their female armor patterns have boob plates
That actually doesn't matter because genders will wear either type like howling banshees can be male or female but wear the same armor.
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btw this is an actual male eldar too. Notice how narrow the features are compared to the Mymearen lady
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>>60311887
You can get the easy build ones as flamers and buy the actual kit for both options. They're cheaper less punchy/durable but faster centurions. I like them.
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>>60312231
Altansar needs more love
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>>60311832
>every single new vote for love them
I dont trust this anymore.
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>>60312194

A dude I knew did some kitbashing to make a few female striking scorpions with boob plate, but I think outside of Dire Avengers, most Aspect warriors are predominantly one gender. Or at least there's no non-female Howling Banshees in lore and no female Dark Reapers or Striking Scorpions confirmed.
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>>60312219
It's male female armor puts the soul stone in the middle not on the side.
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>>60312137
>As a race, the sexes of Eldar seem to be very similar both psychologically and physically. Among such an androgynous race telling the sexes apart can be very difficult

Eldar are a race of traps. You have about a 50% chance to find out that "she" is actually a "he"
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>>60312254
>Or at least there's no non-female Howling Banshees in lore
Actually there are they all just dress as females as part of the aspect.
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>>60312231
>drooping earrings in a helmet
>earrings in combat
>earrings on guys in general
every day i thank myself for not being an eldar player
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>>60312137
>>60312231

hey, anon, here's a news flash...

people don't all look alike. it's entirely possible for eldar dudes to have softer looking faces and for eldar ladies to have more narrow ones.
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>>60312254
Warp spiders should honestly be a female aspect, too.
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>>60312282
>being this insecure about a piece of jewellry on your ear
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>>60312248

I hope we get a novel on Altansar soon. preferably not by the same dude who wrote Path of the Warrior though.
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>>60312224
>Crossdressers are canon for Eldar
Just when you think they can't be even bigger faggots.
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>>60312137

Anon did you find this eldar attractive.

Are you scared of being gay.

You do know you could probably overpower him and stick your dick in him. It's not gay if you top.
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>>60311812
We can make 10 models do 60 damage in volley of shooting. And make it so almost all hit (hitting on 2+) beside failed rerolls of 1.
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>>60312297
>hey anon just pick up shit and smear it on your body stop being so insecure xD

no
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>>60312302

Path of the Warrior was actually pretty good after I got a third or less of the way in. You should give it another chance, anon.
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>>60311939
Someone really needs to colour this. Its been floating around since the TSon codex.
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>>60312166
Super heavy auxiliary detachment
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Got a couple good answers from last thread, but gonna ask again.

What's everyone's opinion on the knight gallant? Useable at least in friendlies or complete Garbo? I really like the melee knight idea but losing shooting seems like a pretty majour blow even with the better ws and attacks

I liked one anons suggestion of making him a distraction carnifex with 2+/4++ relic/warlord trait though my initial idea was fist/+1 attack relic/trait
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>>60312339
wow sounds amazing I'll start collecting <...> immediately!
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>>60312329
nah, topping is still gay if balls touch. actually, do eldar have balls?
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>>60312341
nice strawman
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>>60312380
It takes three stages to impregnate an femelf, so I assume they have three.
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>>60312380
Impossible.
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>>60312380
They have diamonds
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>>60312329

Aren't eldar like the height of an unarmored space marine?
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>>60312381
no, female earrings look like shit on a man

unless you look like aniki then don't do
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>>60312393

Superior species.

>>60312380

You just have to be very careful. Maybe duct tape your balls down.
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>>60312368
and are their rules in the knights codex?
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>>60312231
>>60312137

I haven't gotten the new craftworld codex, are there more pictures of the Craftworlders on it and can anyone post them? Or were those the only examples?
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>>60312421
a real man would cut off his friends balls before fucking him in the ass, then neither of them are gay
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>>60312354
I slogged through Gav's first Ynnari book and it finally wore out my patience. He claims to be an Eldar fan but time and time again, kills thousands of them off in excruciatingly stupid ways. The retarded anime battle at the end was particularly bad.
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If you went by codex cover art alone, which faction would you play?
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>>60312258

Nice painting anon! Is it yours?
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>>60312455

To be honest, when Gav does well, he does pretty damn well. But when he does bad, it's fucking horrible.

I'd say his work is 10% 'nice stuff to read' and 90% 'terrible shit that you'll still probably need to read anyway if you want to make sense of what's happening in other books'.

Andy Chamber's DEldar series was the best though, Gav could learn from him. The characters there were actually fun despite being horrible bastards.
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Is it just me or is the mechanic for falling back out of combat kinda cheesy? I always hated being locked in combat but now its too easy to just fall back and have the rest of your guys light the enemies up.

Assault armies rely on pinning units down but they can't effectively do that unless they somehow miraculously get all their charges in at the same time.

What do you guys think of the suggestion that you can fall back out of combat but you can't target the unit you were just in combat with?
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>>60312457
Tyranids, their codex art has been consistently cool and grisly
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>>60312493
There needs to be a phase similar to overwatch but for falling back just halve the number of attacks to balance it or some shit.
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>>60312493
Make falling back a run move
Have attackers also make a run move
If attackers are able to keep in range of defenders, they remain in combat
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>>60312493
I feel like falling back should rely on a dice roll, i.e., to fall back you have to get a 4+ or 3+ or whatever depending on ability/faction, if you fail you lose models depending on how much you came up short on the dice?

It shouldn't be an auto-success, but it should allow for disengaging
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*blocks your path*
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>>60312455

desu I think Gav was rushed in the ynnari books, they all came out pretty fast I feel.
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>>60312493
What you do is surround a single model of the unit you are charging with 3 of your models.

Boom. The whole unit can no longer retreat. Make sure you can do this with consolidation, otherwise the surrounded model is the first one that dies.
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>>60312525
*falls back*
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>>60312525
*joins other side*
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>>60312493
no, options are good. Good assault is generally not just a single charge with a single unit against a single target. If the opponent is falling back, provided they aren't ultramarines or flyers, they are effectively 100% eliminated for a turn.
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>>60312485
>To be honest, when Gav does well, he does pretty damn well. But when he does bad, it's fucking horrible.

Yeah. To give him credit, the idea of an ancient, lost Craftworld willingly allowing a Genestealer Cult to take root amidst its society as a way of safeguarding their souls is pretty cool, and the bits of the Ynnari book which dealt with that situation were fun. But the ending was such a complete and utter unsalvageable trash-fire that it ruined the whole thing.
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>>60312450

This is the truest expression of friendship between two not-gay men.
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>>60312547
For the Emperor!
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>>60312525
>its actually two dreadnoughts
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>>60312072
Just do what infinity does and have all rules and points free, and the books are just for fluff.
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>>60312559

I think it's still OP that they managed to cut off the GSC's brood mind so thoroughly from the Hive Mind. Being in/near a galactic void shouldn't negate it like that.
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>>60312559
wait, how does doing that safeguard their souls?
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>>60312525
>the virgin box
>the chad contemptor
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>>60312586
Hive Mind > Chaos
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>>60312588
>super secretive chapter of spy marines
>slap giantass A and XX logos on our giant walking machines
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>>60312586

They used it as a stand-in infinity circuit by hijacking the brood mind for their own ends. Also I think they were literally interring dead genestealers in wraithbone to further house the tainted souls. I forgot. It was pretty fucked up and weirdly sexual in some parts.
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>>60312586
When one of them died, the broodmind extending from the Patriarch absorbed their soul in a similar manner to an Exodite's world-spirit.
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What's up with the Wraithknight being so expensive? And the cannon loadout, arguably the most useful, doesn't get invul saves. I want to use him on CC, but point-for-point it gets BTFO. What do.
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>>60312600

Except when Chaos temporarily killed the first hive mind and a new one had to coalesce. Or those chaos-tainted hive fleets that have been spotted in lore and will probably be forgotten until 9th edition.
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>knight codex out and everyone is hype
Is a Shadowsword an effective counter or is it just gonna get shot up?
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>>60312601
They conducted their wars in secret, the existence of the legion weren't some kind of actual secret
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Got some Dust Tactics minis on clearance and kitbashed them into an Ork Battlewagon, Trukk and Meganobs!
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>>60312611
punishment for last edition
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>>60312616
>chaos-tainted hive fleets

you what now?
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>>60312455
He's much better at building worlds than narratives. The rule and splat books he's worked on are excellent but his novels are only really worth it for plot hooks and background
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>>60312652
Tyranids can't worship chaos, but occasionally tendrils of a Hive Fleet are unlucky enough to be sucked int a warp rift and subject to mass possession and mutation.
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>>60312652

yeah GW decided to jump the fleet and apparently there's been 'reports of tyranid fleets bearing poxes of nurgle or acting unusually aggressive even by tyranid standards' spotted near the Great Rift.
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>>60312531

This. If you let skilled player do that you're fucked.
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Are IG veterans with shotguns any good or are they just cool-looking and useless?
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>>60312684
That's not exactly new fluff, there have been similar small references ever since 4th edition. Nothing will ever be done with it, it's just to show that Tyranids are still susceptible to the hazards of warp exposure.
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>>60312708

Well since it was mentioned after the newest asshole in reality started bleeding and it's implied the number of corrupted fleets is increasing, I assume something will be done with it...

in 10th ed.
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>>60312685
That is so dumb
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>>60312601
I think you might be missing the point of AL somewhat.
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>>60312650
I feel like custard is in the same place.

You know how great you used to be in 7th HH..

Enjoy the nerf bat.
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>>60312642
But that still begs the question if they conducted their wars in secret why paint their war machine in their colors and iconography?
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>>60312727
>and it's implied the number of corrupted fleets is increasing

Insomuch as everyone is getting fucked by Chaos right now, yes. But I wouldn't hold your breath for a Codex: Chaos Tyranids coming along at any point.
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>>60312600
Slaanesh (the weakest) beat up the Hive Mind to eat Eldar souls in Valedor

An Elf with a Magic Spear wounded the HIVE MIND itself.

Ynnead ate a Genestealer Cult's Broodmind
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>>60312691
The death korps eng squads are fan fucking tastic. If you can get them in 12inch... they wreck house.
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>>60312740

because keikaku
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>>60312755
And yet a Genestealers Broodmind can take over an avatar of khaine.
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>>60312755

To be fair, Ynnead is a hungry growing boy and needs to eat.

And the magic spear was made from a lady's fingers(?)
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>>60312755
>An Elf with a Magic Spear

An elf with a weapon forged from part of a god.
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>>60312769

Anyone can defeat an avatar of khaine. Even an IG squad killed one in lore once.
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>>60312756
Let's pretend I am but a poor faggot and can't afford DKoK and am kitbashing some SM scout shotguns onto my Cadians... Still good? Or is it just the DKoK combat engies rules?
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>>60312773
>And the magic spear was made from a lady's fingers(?)
>>60312784
>An elf with a weapon forged from part of a god

An that elf has stabbed Daemons with it and has yet to wound a Chaos God.
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>>60312769
Avatars of Khaine were made for the sole purpose of jobbing to other factions in their codexes, just like Nids as a whole.
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>>60312733
>HH
Nobody cares, they also had rules in 40k during 7th, were they argueably the same tier or worse than they are now.
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Motivate me finish dudes. They play like ass this edition and its sapped my to finish them.
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>>60312812

Has anyone wounded a Chaos God yet. The closest is in AoS where Slaanesh is currently bound in a void and he's probably jacking off to the fact right now.
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>>60312847
>Has anyone wounded a Chaos God yet.
I don't think any of the entities that are able too are available at the moment.
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>>60312832
You're playing this game for the wrong reasons. Go play something else.
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>>60312847
Actually, he fucking hates it. Moreso, Nagash is tormenting him because while he is excessive, he is also absolute in his vision.
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>>60312864
Who besides the emperor even could? The laughing God? He's available but he hasn't done shit.
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>>60312884
The C'tan could fully cut off the Chaos Gods from the galaxy if that counts.
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>>60312874

So he's hate masturbating instead?
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>>60312797
DK is really the only good units with shotguns.
Other then that shotguns are not really worth it.
Getting squishy gardsmen in 12inches isn't really worth it for str 3 then 4 at 6inch
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>>60311887
Buy Termies and give them all a fist, an assault cannon, and a cyclone missile launcher and use them as counts as.
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>>60312874
>Moreso, Nagash is tormenting him because while he is excessive, he is also absolute in his vision.
The Virgin Slaanesh vs The Chad Nagash
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>>60312899
>The C'tan could fully cut off the Chaos Gods from the galaxy if that counts
Source?

As the Old Ones used the Realm of Souls in War in Heaven aka the Warp.
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>>60312944
The Pylons a full network would cut off the galaxy from the warp, that was their endgame with them but the war ended before they completed them.
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>>60312910
>grenadier stratagem
>10 shots hitting on 3+ wounding on 2+, -2 AP, D3 damage each

hnnnng
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>>60312832

Your dudes suck and the bat wings look stupid.
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>>60312755
>elves continue to be shittily written in every setting ever
>yvraine does EVEN MORE sue bullshit to establish herself as relevant
>Goto still can't write to save his life
Color me shocked
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>>60312874
That, and if Nagash wins there won't be sensation anymore besides his since he wants the entirety of creation to be mindless undead.
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>>60312982

what about Matt Ward, are we cool with him yet
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>>60312137

To be honest, even if it is a dude, I'd still fuck it. It's not gay if it's from the back and I can't hear it's voice.
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>>60313001
He had some good stuff in the shit, and his codexes were actually quite balanced against eachother
A solid 6/10 in retrospect
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>>60313001
General opinion as far as i've gathered is:
>His fluff writing was wank
>His rules were nice
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>>60313023
>>His rules were nice
his daemon book for fantasy was stupid overpowered an ruined it for the rest of us though.
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>>60311812
An ad mech list based on start collecting boxes and robots with cawl comes out to about $550 for 2000 points. That's very comparable to other armies, for example blood angels and custodes are both around $500. If you add it up you realize Gw makes almost all armies cost this much for 2k points. Exceptions are horde armies obviously, as you're getting a million models for that.
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>>60313018

The Grey Knights incident with the SoB is still stupid though.
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>>60311934
So go try it out at your LGS. Better bring your fucking gameboy because nobody is going to even look at you if you try to argue this shit. Faggot.
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>>60313037
The same with high elves.
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>>60313037
>>60313049
Ah fair enough, i've never cared for fantasy, so i only know of what he wrote for 40k.
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Can someone explain the Ynarri to me? How can a whole faction be just 3 models?
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>>60312124
I wish other codices would show off more conversion ideas for dynasties, stealer cults, chaos bands, etc. Aside from paint stuff
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>>60312873
Whats a non-GW tabletop with cool minis, balanced rules and an active playerbase?
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Hey guys, wondering if I could get some advice on my Eldar list;
I'm thinking of grabbing 3x hornets (with pulse lasers)... Theyre fast, -2 to hit with Alaitoc...

Would they be worth it? I dont want to field reapers, so anything other than them.
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>>60313097

They are the soupiest soup. You throw in any asuryani or drew-carreys in to make them.
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>>60313097
soup, soup, tastey soup
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>>60313097
They're leading a faction of other elves, but haven't gotten any unique models yet, so they just pick and choose

>>60313125
Cool minis is subjective, but X-Wing has the second largest playerbase and more balanced rules than 40k. It's generally cheaper, and it looks like 2nd Edition will trim away a lot of the bloat that built up over 6 years.
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How bad would an Immolator-spam Sisters list be ?
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>>60313097
Just got back into 40k, but from what I understand, it's a death cult started by some Eldar chick who discovered a way to defeat Slaanesh by transcending the concepts of life and death to a point where the Eldar race go super duper saiyan like they were pre-Fall.

And she gave a smooch to Girlboatman to resurrect him for some plan she has. I think because she sees the Imperium as a potential ally?
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>>60313097
They're more a cult rising than an actual faction
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>>60313145
While I have little interest in x-wing I'm Pleased that it serves as market competition, it means GW can't slack off
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>>60313151

wait did she actually kiss him awake
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>>60312966
Even basic troops in the DKoK can greatly benefit from the Grenadiers stratagem, since they've got krak grenades, while guardlets from Cadia only have frag nades.
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>>60313167
Well, if I remember the 5 ed Space Marine codex correctly, Girlyman's corpse was in a stasis preservation chamber on Maccrage. Dont know how she got to Macragge of all places, tho.
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>>60313165
The whole reason GW's deal with FFG collapsed and we don't get any more 40kRPGs is GW realized that FFG had become their main competition. They basically created their own enemy, Nintendo style.
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>>60313151
She didnt discover it. It was a prophecy or something that had been around for ages, but it was mostly either considered a myth, or not worth it since it required all the souls in the infinity circuits.
Eldrad was the only faggot who had the balls to set the whole thing in motion.
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>>60313167
Only thing she did according to Rise of the Primarch or whatever is cut the cables of the stasis field Guilliman was in.
After that she also says Guilliman can no longer take off his armour if he wants to live, but in every BL book he's walking around half naked at the drop of a hat so that's also rather inconsistent.
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>>60313167
Not a literal kiss.

>>60313184
The whole Gathering Storm thing explains this.
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>>60313183
that is very true
>actually useful grenadier stratagem
>fearless in the shooting phase
>access to cool and unique units
>top-tier aesthetics

i only wish other guardbros could know this feel, GW squatting the other remaining regiments with any semblance of identity sucks, cadians are like potato footballers
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>>60313090
Yeah, it was really, REALLY overpowered. Like, 7th ed taudar vs orks overpowered.
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>>60313211

Maybe he just gets tired of wearing his power armor all the time and wants people to know his head isn't actually tiny.
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So, what's pic related actually worth on the tabletop ?
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>>60313242
ouch
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>>60312873
>playing with dudes isn't fun because they suck ass
>how dare you want to enjoy how a game plays!
Really tho

>>60312981
T-thanks
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>>60313220

I'm disappointed. I was imagining her really getting into it, slipping her tongue between Guilliman's cold almost-dead lips, batting at his tonsils, and everything.
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>>60312525
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>>60313279

ew, a yiff.
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>>60313276
>Guilliman just had a really bad case of tonsillitis
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>>60311771
SOON!™
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>>60313200
But we’re getting wrath and glory. It’s from Ulisses(spelling), though.
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>>60312525
*pew pew*
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>>60313146
Mediocre to good. Unless you go full retard and give them something else beside Immolation flamer
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>>60313220
>>60313211
>>60313204
>>60313184
>>60313167
>>60313151
So what is the fate of the T'au in this strange new status quo? It's very Imperium/Eldar vs Chaos centric, and it feels as though the T'au are so removed from everything.

Are they gunna pull a Mass Effect and ship themselves to Andromeda?
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>>60313265
It's probably worth it's cost if that's what you're asking. Just keep in mind it's absolutely mandatory to give it the 4++ warlord trait.
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>>60313272
He was talking about painting them. Not playing with them. Dont ne a jackass.
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>>60313325
These things are good right? I wanna take Annihilators because 3 Lascannons sound amazing.
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>>60313334

I think there's some rumblings of an alliance Eldrad may or may not be making with the Enclaves, but little else.

At the very least, Farsight appears to have met Eldrad.
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>>60313334
To get squatted
jokes aside, expansion and losing innocence seems to be their thing with the new sphere of expansion.
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Farsight is best T'''au and you all can fight me on this. Like I hate T'''au on table top but I just love Farsight as a character.
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>>60312832
>Hey guys, my dudes don't win every game. Motivate me to paint them so I can be an angsty unfunner at my FLGS.
Please leave.
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>>60313338
You're wrong.
He was talking about NOT playing or painting them because they suck now. But I do agree that he needs to play something he likes the look and fluff of, instead of being a waacfag, but hey, it's his money. By all means let him give GW more profit. It means more for us.
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>>60313334
They did a 4th expansion, which was a great success, why are you asking, no really, flying into that warp rift went totally fine. But that's it really.
>Implying Tau are part of the setting
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>>60313334
They're opportunistically advancing and improving their FTL Tech. They actually figured out warp travel a little bit, but tried to send a whole expansion fleet through at once, right around the time of the Noctis Aeterna. This tore open a wormhole-like warp gate called the Startide Nexus, and demons ate all the auxiliaries from this expansion fleet. Later on, they sent a better protected set of scouts through the Nexus and found the remnants of the fourth expansion fleet, and declared the Fifth Expansion, through that warp gate. (They can't expand much in their own area because they're hemmed in on all sides - Imperium to the east, a Nurgle Chaos domain to the west, Orks everywhere else, basically.)
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Are Hellforged Leviathan Dreadnoughts worth fielding? What are the go-to loadouts/tactics?

Really want to convert a Redemptor into one...
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I honestly hope Farsight and Guilliman become bros, because it seems like they'd actually get along. They're both commanders with high ideals that are tempered by pragmatism and acknowledging how bad things are, and both genuinely want the best for their people. I feel like GW and BL would be wasting Farsight as a character otherwise.
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>>60313338
I'm talking about playing with them. I love my night lords, but they're worthless on the TT. It's killing my motivation to paint.
>>60313393
>>60313401
I'm not trying to be fucking waac. If I was, I wouldn't be using the normal normal fucking CSM in my picture. I want to play a game where I don't get shit stomped off the table because I'm playing what I want.
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>>60313351
Yes, they're very good. Also, the turret twin lascannon fires twice. That means you have 4 shots from the turret and 1 from the hull.

It might be good to go Cadian to reroll 1s when standing still, and/or to pair the anihilator with a Tank Commander so he can gain precision or strike and shroud to protect himself from enemy anti-tank weapons.
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>>60313240
I'm sad there aren't more options for building <your dudes> and that choosing <your dudes> over another, named regiment pretty much cripples them in terms of good stratagems and some very useful traits
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Thinking about heading to gw for their paint day to try and motivate myself. Anyone go to one? I'm assuming I need to bring my own paint and shit.
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>>60313430
The go-to tactic I’ve seen is to give it to guns if your choice and then walk slowest at your enemy laying waste to anything in your your way. Common countertactic is to throw something into melee with it since it is significantly less scary in CC without the claws/drills.

Consider taking one of melee and one of shooting.
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>>60313430
HLDs are fantastic units. they heal per model slain, and their weapon options are all good. the most used guns are either butcher arrays or grav-flux's, and ive seen some fun stuff done with the siege drills.
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>>60313502
seriously, the least GW could do is just 1 box, maybe 40-50 piece guard "upgrade sprue" with various pieces of SL, Vallhallan, Vostroya, etc, so that we can customize without being chastised for using 3rd party bits
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>>60312611
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>>60313337
2nd on the 4++
anything that can be done to make it last longer. It turns into a giant punch me sign when on the table.
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>>60313576
>retard units
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>>60313351
I’m less impressed with them in action than my tank commanders, but rule of three dictates I take something other than TCs. For that, I take annihilators. What’s important here is they LOOK about as scary as a tank commander.
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>>60313559
Sorry, all the designers are too busy making new plastic kits for Age of Sigmar© Mustachecannon Dwaerfs™
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>>60312525
>Loots dreadnought
>with Marine still inside it
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>>60313559
Right on dude, I would honestly just love some "hobby box" kits of spare bits. I've been able to kitbash a primaris psyker, a Johnny Guardsman, and a bunch of other fun hobbyist models from just Cadian bits. I dislike Cadians as a unit but they're the only look that fits my vision for my guard, sadly. I don't want to use their rules either.
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>>60313421

It should be noted, that 4th sphere expansion auxiliaries that weren't fucked by daemons were exterminated by 4th sphere expansion tau. Tau got afraid their friends would get possessed again and go apeshit.
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>>60313529
(One arm I mean. Not two Dreadnoughts. Though two Dreadnoughts is also good, you want them to be able to difend themselves in shooting and melee)
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>>60313644
>their rules
don't even get me started on parking-lot shooty shooty guard, shit's a disgrace
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>>60312601
What did you expect? An unpainted, unmarked dread?

"Wow, I wonder to which legion that thing that kills us en masse belongs to!"

>"Does it make a difference?"

"..."
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3rd/4th was objectively better than 8th
Change my mind
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>>60313449
Then dont fucking paint them you sperg.
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>>60313705
You are not wrong
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>>60313705
You're not just wrong, you're stupid!
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>>60313559
They need to release them as separate boxes. I’m not paying for Valhallan and armageddon upgrades just so I can have my Vostroyan upgrades
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>>60313705
you're just nostalgic for a happier time in your life
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>>60313705
>rhino rush in 3rd
>asscannon spam in 4th
>tyranid 'fexes spam in 4th
>iron warriors heavy support shenanigans
>escalation
>old LoS rules, aka crouching daemon prince, hidden carnifex
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>>60313740
I'd prefer full individual sculpts rather than just upgrades for cadians.
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>>60312832
Lol you got a lot of hate. I think they are coming along nicely. Good lightning. George
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>>60313705
>t.
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>>60313529
>>60313546
That does sound awesome. >300 pts seems very steep though
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>>60313785
if you dont play like an idiot it makes it point back with 2 turns. plus, it heals at a disgusting rate if your opponent is playing swarms.
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>>60313712
It's amazing that I came for motivation and ultimately get told not to botherb
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>>60313809
We're not your therapists. Or even your friends.
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>>60313766
Glorious! Even marines got to be good!
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>>60312847
>Has anyone wounded a Chaos God yet.
Gork and Mork allegedly beat the snot out of Nurgle way back in the old Rogue Trader days. Obviously Nurgle got better, but wounding is wounding I suppose.
Now, that's stuff's pretty ancient lore but as far as I can tell it hasn't been retconned explicitly either, so... YMMV.

>>60312864
>I don't think any of the entities that are able too are available at the moment.

Theoretically the Ork Gods could (and if you believe the old Ork lore, they have wounded at least one of them at one point), but considering the two "Undefeatable Ork Gods" are more interested in beating the shit out each other/stomping out any Chaos daemons invading their space... wounding a Chaos God directly isn't very high on their list of priorities right now.
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>>60313642
Venerable Battle Brother Stubby, his legs and one arm ripped off for the second time in his unfortunate life, is dragged away by his sole remaining power fist by an oddly posh Mekboy.

>Brothers! Help! The Shrooms are taking me again!
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>>60313314
NEVER!™
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>>60313761
at the time of fourth edition I was a dirt poor slav schoolboy and my country had only 1 warhammer dealer, 400 km away from me. I only managed to buy a macragge paint set, a box of thousand sons and a secondhand set of stormboys and one nob. That's it. Now I can literally stroll into a shop and buy me a 2k army, but I don't want to anymore. I also have no time to assemble and paint, I'm tired of spess mehreens, and I cannot choose between other faction because I don't even care that much. Can somebody get me a time machine, so I can send younger me a few kilos of plastic crap?
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>>60313809
If you have to come to 4chan to motivate yourself you've failed before you've even begun.
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>>60313817
Yeah, mehreens were awesome that edition. As were CSM. And SM had chapter traits, IG had doctrines and CSM had their legions. Oh boy, those were the times...
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>>60313766
>Ork choppas reduced ALL ARMOR to 4+ saves
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>>60313853
>I have no time to assemble and paint
Found the problem
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>>60313853

Come be my dirt poor slav boy
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>>60313847

Ferrus was weak enough to get his head chopped off by a beauty pageant winner that later gets a pear of anguish shoved up his ass to exorcise a daemon
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>>60313884
Oh yeah, right. Orks also had the Kult of Speed list which was pretty awesome. And 13th company, now THAT was cool and unusual army. And LatD... oh shit, now I remember!
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>>60313766
You bitching or praising the edition?
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>>60313809
jesus christ, seeking the validation and support of literal anonymous strangers is something I hope I never sink to

Do things of your own volition like a man.
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>>60313430
Don't forget that HLD is also a Helbrute, so you can use Fire Frenzy with them too if you so need to
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>>60313809
>Make me want to paint these guys I like but dont want to play
Do you really want to paint them though?
>no
Then dont paint them
>I cant believe you're not making me want to do something I dont want to do

Maybe reddit is more your speed.
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>>60313853
I've been out of the hobby for round 7 years (right after DE dropped). Was recently looking around and was shocked that basically every model is the same as when I left. What has GW been doing for the past 10 years besides fucking up the fluff?
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>>60313935
nope, FAQ'd
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Who had better hair and dick, Sangy or Russ?
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>>60313932
I don't know anymore. I was young and Warhammer 40k was new and exiting and art was great and miniatures were amazing and otherworldly expensive.
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>>60311887
dakka fists for RG, burny for salamanders
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>>60313983
>I've been out of the hobby for round 7 years (right after DE dropped)
Yeah, me too. I quit after Ward and newcrons codex.
>What has GW been doing for the past 10 years besides fucking up the fluff?
*ahem* Aelf Shaerks...
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>>60314004

Given that Lemonade literally has dog DNA in him and I've seen enough furry porn posted here, I'd say Russ has never had a woman survive with him in bed.

So best dick automatically goes to Sanginius, who probably never used it since all the Primarchs are explicitly asexual celibates anyways.
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>>60314023
Well 8th is objectively shit, but you can still have fun with it.
3rd and 4th had their issues but where better than current 8land edition
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>>60313983
>round 7 years (right after DE dropped)
Christ, it's been a while

>>60313983
>What has GW been doing for the past 10 years besides fucking up the fluff?
Lots of new factions. Inquisition exist now. Eldar Harlequins got added as their own faction. The Imperial Knights from Epic migrated to standard scale 40k. Genestealer Cults exist now, and let you pick and choose from Tyranids and Imperial Guard. Most armies have one or two big "centerpiece" units like Wraithknights and Demon Primarchs.

It's actually been a pretty good time for the hobby, even though a lot of kits haven't changed.
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Planning out my next army and I need some help. I don't have the SM codex yet and I want to know if I can take a power axe on my primaris captain.
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>>60313934
Amazing how up their own ass everyone's become to the point that one anonymous person is somehow surprised that every other anonymous person isn't on their dick telling them exactly what they want to hear.
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>>60314059
>objectively shot
GWs stock price disagrees with you.

Anon, are you just a contrarian for the sake of being different?
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>>60314050
I don't think canines are particularly great at sex. In fact, dog penis is always significantly smaller than human one, even with relative proportions taken into account. Humans actually are one of the few animals with biggest dicks compared to the rest of their body.
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>>60314043
>>What has GW been doing for the past 10 years besides fucking up the fluff?
>*ahem* Aelf Shaerks...
It all becomes clear.
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>>60313847
Is there any reliable source telling us what happened to Ferrus's head? Because the other day I was hearing an audiobook about some iron hand apothecaries collecting decapitated head and reviving them with some taboo machine of sorts
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>>60314064
>Inquisition exist now.
B-but I clearly remember Witchhunter and Daemonhunter codexes, I even bought the latter towards the end of 4th ed.
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>>60314091

I think anon was referring to Russ' K N O T.
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Does "Independent Operative" count as deep strike for the purposes of the beta rules for reserves?
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>>60314050
>Memes as facts
Neck yourself
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>>60314069
if only there were links to all the books/rules, in this very thread even.
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>>60314064
>Inquisition exist now.
They existed them IIRC, just as Daemon and Witchhunters.

Everything else you just described I hate (not attacking you, thanks for answering). All the big models look so silly in anything other than apocalypse.

Pretty frustrating, because I would like to get back in, but there are way to many dumb things IMO.
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>>60312457

Necrons.

That's why I started playing them in when they came out in 3rd anyway.
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>>60314085
>popularity and/or sales means something is good
I bet you are one of those iPhone users that think iPhone are the best shit ever made

There is nothing wrong in enjoying shit, after all we are playing 40k aren’t we?
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>>60314085
i agree with you general gist, but something selling well does equal it being good
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>>60314069
Unfortunately, you can't
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>>60314120

It's true that all the Primarchs are virgins though. Or were, in Fulgrim's case.
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>>60314064
>opens 3rd rulebook
>Inquistion has rules in there
How new are you?
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>>60314108
Yeah, now they're their own thing. You can take an Inquisitor or three as an addon to any Imperial force.

>>60314125
Personally I love that GSC and Harlequins got rules, because they existed for so long in the fluff and it was weird that they didn't have representation on the tabletop(besides one squad for Eldar and Dark Eldar)
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>>60311812
>next in line for a major release
>only army that can pull off first turn charges now
>also most rapetastic melee army short of buffed BA
>can take any flavor of Guard detachment
>infantry/mech/air we're two armies in one
>meet exotic aliens
>and rape them
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>>60312457
Guys that got me into this game want to say hi
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>>60314146
Not my fault they disappeared for 4th-5th
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>>60312555

This is a pretty dumb post dezu
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>>60314151
>Yeah, now they're their own thing. You can take an Inquisitor or three as an addon to any Imperial force.
Okay. I'm pretty tired of the Imperium. You can only withstand so much HUMANITY FUCK YEAH in your lifetime. I'd rather play Kroot mercenaries.
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>>60314169
probably the best codex ever
pic related a close second
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>>60314151
Don't know what GSC is.

Harlies are fine as a unit, but its weird they have their own army.

Glad AdMech has a force.

Knights just seem like an excuse to sell big dumb models.

Hate that Cadia and Biel Tan is gone, hate the big warp thing and that everything is chaos, hate that Guillaman is back, Hate Ynnead cults.

Life is suffering.

Guess I'll check back in in 7 more years.
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>>60314209
GSC= genestealer cults
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>>60314207
3rd-4th edition was the golden age for great codexes.

CSM
Nids
Guard
SM
Eldar

so many options.
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>>60314221
*delets you*
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>>60314221
*surrounds it in cheap chaff*
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>>60314235
Ah.

That sounds fine, not something I am excited about but am cool with them being in the setting.

Thanks for answering.
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>>60314173
But they didn’t, it’s not like thier rules where removed from the game like GSC when 3rd show up. They simply didn’t get proper updates
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>>60314221
*loots Dreadnought with living Marine still inside it, turns it into front armor for scary-looking Deff Dread*
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>>60314209
>in 7 more years.
>full range of primarchs
> Codex: Primarchs Imperium and Codex: Daemonic Primarchs
>Codex: Legio Alpharius
>Preorder: God-Emperor© miniature made from Citadel Bettercast™ and 80cm in height
>Upgrade packs: Fallen God-Emperor© and Ork Looted God-Emperor©
>New starter box for 12th edition: Enslavers Galaxycrusher™ detachment vs Old Ones Worldbuilders™
>New line of toddlers toys, Star of Chaos and Imperial Aquila baby rattles!
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>>60314318

Like you wouldn't buy it all
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>>60314318
You make me sad.
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this or guard
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>there will never be a 6mm scale 'War in Heaven' game
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>>60314355

They'd never make a War in Heaven game, wouldn't have any SPACE MARINES or baseline humans in it.
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>>60314355
>there will never be a 6mm scale 'War in Heaven' game

Good
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>>60314344
Nah, I would save my money for rumoured greatcoat guardsmen miniatures, new ork warbuggies and plastic obliterators slated for 2026 Codex: Traitors of Malal
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>>60314378
>if it's not space marines I don't like it
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>>60313841
I legit burst out laughin when I read this. Good job anon!
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>>60312339
>We can make 10 models do 60 damage
*laughs in binary*
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>>60314376
>implying GW wouldn't add some War in Heaven dudes that resemble space marines and it would turn out the emperor based his own space marines on them
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>>60314409
'member Cron Croissants? Where are they now?
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>>60314376
they'd just make the necrontyr look suspiciously like humans, power armour optional
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>>60314413
Don't give GW ideas mate.
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>>60314392
>if it's not space marines it's not as profitable

Fixed
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I want to build a literally NPC horde for playing "co-op" against.

How much do Tyranids cost for a full size army? And what units would make them the most fun to fight against considering that they won't have a real "player", it will just be one of us acting like a DM to just have them surge forward, or maybe use dice rolls to determine what they do.
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>>60314413

how dare you suggest that the Emperor was inspired by filthy xenos spirits, you heretic.
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>>60314441
>dead HH game that is sinking FW
Bahahahahahahaha
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>>60314445
Despite how much i hate their channel, look up Miniwargaming's halloween zombie game, they did a very similar concept. Just use melee gaunts, a few genestealers and one big thing as a boss fight
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>>60314207
I'd put nids above csm but I've played them since 2e so I'm a bit biased
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>>60314445
Why not orks?
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>>60314491
>playing nids since 2nd
>suffering through 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th
Wow, your will is adamant, I salute you.
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>>60314491
What did you think about the changes in nids between 2nd and 3rd edition? the whole aestetic seems to have changed loads
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>>60314413
>implying the Emperor isn't the last Old One who created humanity and then transformed himself into one to guide them on their ascension to become masters of the galaxy
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>>60314318
>Imperial Aquila baby rattles
Would totally buy for my little one
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>>60314497

Ehh, they'd probably be good too, but if I'm spending the time and effort buying and working on them I'd rather it be a faction I like enough to maybe use on their own toosome time.

Nids look super easy to paint too, I figure you can just do two tone chitin/flesh and then soak them in shade for a good result. I might be wrong about that though, if any Nid players care to advise.
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>>60314521
While i was happy to see the line change from its weird, out of scale beginnings with tyrants being smaller than carnifexes, the old disconids will always hold a special place in my heart
I actually still have a bunch of my old 2e and 3e sculpts, never could find my hormagants though, I'm still convinced the GW ninjas came and stole them after the Ridley Scott suit

>>60314513
>nids
>suffering in 3rd
Mutable genus was the most retarded thing ever, it gave you infinite adaptability and I loved it, I wish it was still in the game today
5th, 6th, and like 80% of 7th was pure suffering though, watching a carnifex double in points and lose what, 21(?) Upgrades made me legitimately quit the game for a while
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>>60314625
#NeverForgetCarnifex
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>>60314705
What they did to him was worse than rape, they stripped it of its entire identity and soul and tried to hype it up like some end all be all can opener

They literally NTRed the carnifex
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>Wanna run a small daemon detachment for fleshhounds
>summoning sucks
>units I want to use are fast attack, so no easy patrol
>could just auxillary them but that's kind of lame
>could get an HQ that follows then but the only one fast enough doesn't even buff them, even though it's litterally one of them

Might just modify one of them to be the daemon pooch hq, or I'll get a blood letter and put them on one of them and call it a mount.
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>>60314160
>>only army that can pull off first turn charges now

Loads of armies can pull off first-turn charges.
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>>60314705
>giant mobster that stacks -2 to hit

Yeah no fuck carnifex
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>>60312847
I bet Caldor Draigo did. He is just too modest to tell the tale. Good person that draigo
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>>60314778
Not anymore with deepstrike nerfed.
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>>60314802
Eldar, Dark Eldar, and Tyranids can all do it without needing to deep strike a thing.
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>fluff says these dudes are made to rip through lightly armored infantry
>with the AP rework they're basically anti tanks and terminators now, capable of easilly shrugging off Las cannons and melta

I mean, yeah cool.
Just doesn't feel right.
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>>60314802
>laughing Alpha Legion Berserkers
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slowly chipping away but adding more everyday
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>>60314811
Yeah but many of the armies that could can no longer.
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>>60314832
And there goes the goalposts.
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>>60314829
>slowly chipping away but adding more everyday
God damn know that feel. Finally saw the end in sight and just bought like 30 more dudes.
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>>60314829
Looking good, good jorb anon
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>>60314822
Who are these dudes
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>>60314829
>actually has Gabriel butterfacegelos
Come on man, couldn't you do at least a headswap?
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>>60314871
>tons of armies can turn one charge
>not any more (in response to tons of armies)
>g-goal posts

Okay
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>>60311812
You simply cannot suffer the alien to live.
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>>60314832
So? That wasn't the point raised in question. Frankly Genestealer Cults aren't even very good for first turn charges because their Ambush table is so unreliable.
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>>60314209
While the stuff you mention is dumb, I think the worst stuff in the nuCanon is all the stupid Daemon shit.

Daemons worked so much better when they were unknowable and mysterious.
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The Sisters Codex can't come soon enough.
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>>60314887
Anything ap -1 or -2
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>>60314907
Stratagem + Primus: 3d6 rerolling on the table. All but guaranteed a 5 or 6.

Command point rerolls can also help, basically you can deliver two units per turn reliably.
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>>60314901
>"Genestealer Cults are the only army which can still do first-turn charges"
>"Except Eldar, Dark Eldar, Tyranids..."
>"But lots of armies which could do it before now can't."

Yep, those goalposts were moved.
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Consecrators?
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>>60314901
>only army that can pull off first turn charges now
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>>60314927
Almost as if your talking to two different people m8.
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>>60314927
Also SoB can too, but it’s not like you want to
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>>60314927
Oh you thought i was the guy you were responding to.
No I'm just saying less armies can turn one after the faq.
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>>60314950
oh yeah, single set of replies, only mentioning this after goal post accusation.

Yeah, not suspicious at all. By the way, I AM NOT the guy you were currently responding to.
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>>60314956
Except celestine with seraphim
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>>60314888
>actually has Gabriel butterfacegelos
Idk. His face isn't THAT bad, it's the oddly angled armour that gets me.
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>>60314973
I'm just here to shitpost and plug GSC occasionally man.
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>>60314978
>Seraphims
>melee
Yah no... they can hit the enemy, but wounding them and killing them is another story

24”+d6” moving tanks is more than enough to make a charge. No one will expect to get charged by a fuckin rhino turn 1
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>>60314384
>rumoured greatcoat guardsmen
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>>60315030
Thought this would end in blamming
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>>60314802
I don't think there's a single army that can't pull off a turn 1 charge, maybe necrons.
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>>60314925
>roll 6 yo get a full acolyte drill bomb up to a knight t1
>mass hypnosis knight
>autocharge
>wind up dealing like 33 total unsaved wounds after piercing the heavens that was that knights asshole
The other dude was not very happy
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>>60315133
It's beautiful.

I'm switching to saws now that they're 14 points each. The cascading mortal wounds are nice, but, gotta account for cost.
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>>60315085
>I don't think there's a single army that can't pull off a turn 1 charge, maybe necrons.
Daemons(non Slaanesh), Dangels, Tau

I think that's it.
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>>60315133
I would laugh hard.
But then again still had fun when I manage to fail every single wound roll in a game versus Orks during 7th while playing SoB.
6 turns. Not a single dead Ork
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>>60315150
Naw, points be damned, make an entire acolyte squad with kamina/Simone glasses and go hard
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Guys Inquisitor: Martyr makes me want to start a small Inquisition detachment to accompany my marines which inquisitor should I get and what troops to support? Crusaders? soS? sobs? Scions?
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>>60315191
Best way to run Inquisition is a Supreme Command Detachment. If you want them to have troops, scions for Inquisitorial Stormtroopers.
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>>60315151
Dangels get scouts and adv+charge ravenwing with a strat, tau can tie something up with a coldstar, it's not a massively impressive charge but they aren't a melee race. Don't know about demons.
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>>60315195
>upon wings of fire
Is Bangels.
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>>60315220
>stormtroopers in the same detachment as an inquisitior
le illegal face
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>>60315240
I realized I was retarded and couldn't read immediately after pressing post
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>>60315191
>Guys Inquisitor: Martyr makes me want to start a small Inquisition detachment
Is I:M really that good?
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>>60315246
>Supreme Command Detachment: 3 Inquisitors
>Patrol/Battalion: Militarum Tempestus
It's not hard.

>>60315259
I've heard it's gotten fun now that the bugs are worked out. The Steam Sale starts in a week...
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>>60315085
Deathguard id assume.
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I want that 50 reserve points = 1 cp rule.
Would actually make summoning reasonable.
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>>60315259
I haven’t had all that much time to play yet, only about level 12 or so, but it’s been a blast so far. It’s sooooo much better than the alpha build
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>>60315353
What's the difference between reserve points and regular points?
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>>60311812
Mortal wound knight support
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>>60315441
>What's the difference between reserve points and regular points?
Nothing.
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Getting back into 40k, last edition I played was 5th and the more I'm reading into 8th the more I dislike it, it just seems dumbed down but everyone seems to love it.
>no flanking
>no difficult/dangerous terrain
>no weapon arcs
>no templates
>no vehicle side armour
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>>60315441
you don't have to roll to see what you can buy with regular points
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>>60315510
Yeah but
>no Taudar
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>>60315441
You spend reserve points on shit while playing.
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>>60315533
Why not just spend them before the game?
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>>60315526
>at least it's not 7th
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>>60315539
That's a good question anon.
Games workshop thinks it's valuable to be able to possibly buy stuff mid game.
And basically basis all of chaos around this mechanic.
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>>60315510
Try a game if you wanna make sure.
Just don't bother and go somewhere else if you already decided it's not for you.
Like, I dislike everything about AOS, but you don't see me going on /aosg/ weekly to post about how much I dislike the game and everybody that enjoys it is just wrong.
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>>60315526
>5th
No Grey Knights. But really I think most have come to terms with the fact templates didn't add much to the game, or rather what they added was putting your men in retarded circle formations and artilery being the best sniper unit. I'd like to see weapon arcs return and maybe a bonus for shooting most vehicles from behind. Difficult terrain is just -2 to charge distance, dangerous terrain is easily houseruled if you're fighting in a minefield. Flanking exists, no more "roll to see which flank you ordered your men to march to" though.
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>>60314937
Consecrators will never be the same
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>Codex-tier updated rules for Ministorum and Inquisition fucking never.
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>>60315510

>it gets rid of all the bullshit
>I don't like it

8th is the closest the game has been to good for four and a half editions.
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>>60315046
Yes. Let's go with their shitty melee attacks and ignore their 4 melta pistols.
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>>60315604
Reserve rolls were also so much fun right?
>Important unit decides not to show up until the game is practically over
>It then scatters onto something else and is destroyed entirely
Half the reason drop pods were good was because they circumvented most of the rules that made reserves suicide.
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>>60315612
They'll run out of codices eventually. We know Space Wolves and Orks are coming, Genestealer Cultists and Sisters of Battle have new models so they'll probably get new releases around then. But after that, isn't all that's left little mini forces like Ministorum, Inquisition, Sisters of Silence, etc?

>>60315710
Getting rid of Reserve rolls was one of the things that made me look into 8th and eventually start playing again.

Then I went and started playing GSC like a horse in a burning barn.
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>>60315539
>Why not just spend them before the game?
Good question. Answer is usually it is better. I enjoy a couple points (~200) so I can try to force some Spawnage via Gift of Chaos and Bolt of Tzeentch.

>Spawn a Character then be able to tie up his shit in the middle of his army.

As well as a couple points for Split! (to get the extra inches from Overwatch)

But the theory is you can use those points to adapt:

>Oh no my opponent brought a horde. Better summon Flamers

>Let me Summon a Soul Grinder to save it from the Alpha)

But Summon is honestly too limited. Having a Character give up their Movement is brutal

>If it was simply BEFORE moving a Character could summon, it might be better.
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>>60315682
Except he's coming from 5th which was the last time the game was good, at least up until GKs happened.
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>>60314764
daemon prince, 30 bloodletters, and then as many doggos as you want, deepstrike the bloodletters
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>>60315755
>Leafblower Guard
>Ork Nob Biker Wound Roulette
>the consecutive Marine codices that one-upped each other.

Nah. You gotta take that rose-tinted helmet off Alpharius.
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Hmmm scions or unit of deathwatch for inquisitor retinue
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>>60315812
Do you fight Xenos a lot in your local meta?

Personally, I'm going scions, since only a few of my Inquisitors are Ordo Xenos.
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>>60315568
I think the major problem with reserve points is that there isn't a single way to reliably use them, or does not come with drastic downsides.

Either it's once in a blue moon you might get a chaos spawn. Or you take a demon unit with you that you already planned on summoning. It's essentially deepstrike, localised to a character with numerous punishments for using this inferior form of deep striking. Then there's stuff like poxwalkers that might get to use reserve points, but will essentially cost double the price of a poxwalker to keep them above that number.

Apparently they expect you to look through your demon codex like a spell book. The problem is that would be expecting you to have every demon in that codex. And on top of that, with point costs working the way they do, you will always have a decent chunk of left over points that just can't fit into anything.

If instead of summoning you could replenish units easilly that would be one thing.
If they could find a way to make points into blocks. That each block let you summon any unit, and no matter what you'll have left over points. That would be another.
Or just bare minimum have something you can use reserve points on that is actually good and reliable, that would be all we need.

Just a pretty awful mechanic. they're likely to do away with soon, but could honestly work if they actually fixed it.
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>>60315705
We where talking about melee, not shooting
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>>60315804
Still better than 8th because if you ignore the 3 problem armies, you could still have a good time.
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>>60315783
I don't really want get a blob of blood letters to just run dogs.
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Guys I have a question.
What does a unit attack with during melee if they only have ranged weapons?
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>>60315855
PISTOLS CAN SHOOT INTO MELEE FAGGOT
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>>60315873
>>60315873
>>60315873
new thread
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>>60315865
basic str AP0
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>>60311887
>sticking to puny manlets when you can get the chadmarines
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>>60315836
More Xenos than Chaos/daemons, mostly Eldar and tau
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>>60315864
then suck it up and run them as an aux detachment
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>>60315865
Their fists, a pocket knife, the butt of a gun. Did you actually read the rules?
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>>60315864
>I don't really want get a blob of blood letters to just run dogs.

Could just set points aside and use DAEMONIC RITUAL to summon Dogs
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>>60315890
But since I already have lots of marines I guess Scions would be best, an inquisitorial two + an SC box for around $100 is o nice
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>>60315878
The next round you retard it is about turn one charges you twat
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>>60315966
You charge T1, hold the unit down, and then AoF on T2 to blast then shit out of them. You're still charging on T1, moron.
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>>60315612

They just need to release a "Forces of the Imperium" Codex that includes the Inquisition, Ministorum, SoS and Assassains.

Inquisition needs a huge overhaul, need to be able to take Imperium troops as retinue and revamp the whole Ordo system. Something along the lines of the canticles of the Omnissiah would be fun, the Inquisitor handing out new orders every turn. Inquisitors should also be able to take Assassains in the same detachment.
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>>60315865
rule wise, their Strength stat, AP 0, Damage 1.

Fluff wise: Fists, teeth, kicking, small knives, rocks, butts of their guns, or clubs.
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>>60315865
AoS fag detected...




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