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Any monstergirl setting which doesn't have male counterparts is shit and stupid.
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>>60801033
>anti-monstergirl-kun's ban is up
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>>60801033
But if there were monsterboys then there would be no narrative impetus for all the cute monstergirls to lustfully rape the god-fearin' human boys in order to reproduce. And that's the charm of it all.
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>>60801033
If it has male counterparts it isn't a monstergirl setting it is just a monsterperson setting or just a monster session. However said settings aren't shit for their lack of males, they are shit because they are fetish settings with little depth.
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>>60801083
Just have the monsterboys rape the god-fearin' human boys too then.
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>>60801033
Unless it's a setting like Holdfast that has no sapient males of any kind, human or monster-folk, and everyone reproduces via magical ritual.
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>>60801033
Accurate. I don't just want cute monstergirls raping all the boys, I want cute monsterboys raping all the girls.
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>>60801200
Ah I see you are a man of culture as well
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>>60801200
based
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>>60801410
>wanting cute monsterboys
You need powerful monster men too. Just having cute monsterboys is for faggots.
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>>60801477
Are you saying this isn't cute?
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>>60801033
Listen, just because /jp/ doesn't want to listen to your shit doesn't mean you have to come here to bitch instead.
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>>60801033
Then it wouldn't be a monstergirl setting, just a standard DnD setting.
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please post more monster boys
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>>60801033
I disagree with your statement but do personally agree that having monsterboys is better than not
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>>60801611
Fuck you he's right. No humans! Weird Chimera people everywhere!
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>>60801083
Maybe all Monster Males are impotent? Or just incapable of impregnation?
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>>60801651
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>>60801477
Sure that works too.
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>>60801477
I am not ashamed of my setting
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>>60801625
You know? You aren't even wrong.
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>>60801033
Pretty much what >>60801625 said. If you want monsterdudes, fine, but then it isn't a monstergirl setting anymore. Not if they're common enough to matter.
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>>60801103
/Thread.


/Thread Hard. There isn't anything else to be gained from the discussion after this post.
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>>60801033
Monstergirls and monsterboys are objectively inferior to girl monsters and boy monsters.

Stop being slaves to 2004 memes.
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>>60802196
I will when the art stops being good.
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>>60801033
Who cares nigga
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>>60801732
>I am not ashamed of my setting
you should be
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What about a world where succubi/incubi have no preset gender and simply swap to whichever is more convenient at the time?
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>>60801083
>Monsterboys accouont for 0.0001% of all births and thus the odds of actually getting to one are close to nil so they go after humans.
Done
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>>60801200
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>>60802422
And cue half the RPers for a setting immediately playing them for the uniqueness/edge factor like Tiefling or Drow,
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>>60802440
>play KC setting
>be monster from past age finally awoken
>the very essence of your being is turning you into a woman
>you must find a way to save yourself, the clock is ticking
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>>60802406
Thats our world anon
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>>60801083
What if the monsterrace were like greek gods and they were locked in a constant cycle of cheating on each other with humans and then getting mad and smiting each other's lovers.
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>>60801033
Wrong, in my world the males are the "monsters" and the females are the "monstergirls". Any union between man and monstergirl produces a normal boy or monstergirl, keeping the cycle continuing.
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>>60802439
I'm doing what's right. All human boys need to be brutally raped by monsterboys. Then we shall have true peace and equality.
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bump
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>>60801083
Just have the monstergirls and monsterboys think humans are really cute. Have the exotic attraction angle work both ways.
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>>60804322
Don't worry humie boy, women are ready to protect your invaluable dicks from the mean monstergirls for the small price of wedding ring.
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>>60801708
Are you that afraid of the idea that the girl you're interested in might fuck somebody else?
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>>60806278
>Implying that mere women could stop BOTH monstergirls and monsterboys from raping those poor human boys senseless
It's too late. It's already started. True Peace is at hand.
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>>60806354
Rape is NOT the solution
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>>60801033
The question we all have to ask ourselves is this, is there a way to put monstergirls in a setting and actually make it a compelling setting that people would buy. Something that doesn't JUST rely on the sex appeal element of it (although it's impossible not to have some of that with monstergirls)
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>>60806278
I'm good, thanks
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>>60806473
Bateman, you didn't rape the Joker to set our city, our very world free. At least let me save this one. Those human boys must be raped for the good of all
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>>60806736
Be like me and live in a secret magical tower far away from these monsters and women.
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>>60806696
You just wind up with something like Final Fantasy, with them being window dressing for the setting.
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>>60801033
Shaddap fujoshi
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>>60806736
>two alluring horns
>fangs
>red skin
Filthy monster chasers, how dare you to betray your own race?
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>>60801033
>Any monstergirl setting is shit and stupid.
Fixed that for you.
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>>60801200
Let's really examine this for a second, what would a monster that survived and bred through sex and the raping of other humanoid species be designed like?
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>>60807146
their penises (and human vaginas) would probably end up looking like a duck's
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>>60807146
Loving those fangs.
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IF SHE HUMAN SHE A THOT
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>>60806780
You MUST stop this folly!
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>>60806736
I LOVE ZERO-TWO
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The male monsters are heroes.
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>monstergirl threads get so much love and participation they had to be turned into generals
>literal fags can't even muster 100 posts for their spin-off thread
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Can someone post kitsune men?
I swear on me mum it's for purely nonsexual reasons, I need art for a character
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>>60801033

There are tons of male monster settings/stories, it's just that they're usually prose, making them harder to spread/find, and generally written more by women, who don't spread their smut around so liberally.
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>>60807473
I'm sorry Batman. It's too late to stop now. The climax will soon start and I can't be missing it.
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male monsters = evil and fodder
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Monster boy thread, huh?
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>>60811917
I'll try anon, give me some specifics too
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>>60802406
That is literally what DnD Succubi/Incubi do.
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>>60811917
Stretching the definition of "men". Kitsune have a certain longevity anyway I'm sure.
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>>60801033
>any monstergirl setting is shit and stupid
Fixed that for you
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>>60811917
Similar enough.
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>monsterboys and monstergirls both exist
>they can only procreate with humans
>hate each other
>propensity to eat humans of the same gender as themselves so as to give humans no choice in mating partner
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"men"
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>>60801033
>Any monstergirl setting which doesn't have male counterparts is shit and stupid.
True if you remove the "which doesn't have male counterparts" part.
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>>60812497
You shall be the first to be raped.
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>monstergirls with fertile wombs
>monstertraps with fertile assholes
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>>60812753
>monstermen with fertile testicles
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Never got the appeal in this sort of design. I can see the appeal in full humans, or full monsters, but not this sort of half-measure/compromise. They don't look like proper creatures to me, they look more like one-off genetic freaks or watered down half/quarter breeds.
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>>60812973
Most of the time they just look like normal people who are wearing weird gloves, pants and headbands.
>>60807751
This piece of trash being one of the most egregious examples.
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>>60801033
>Any monstergirl setting which doesn't have male counterparts is shit and stupid.
I would fucking love more monsterboy art that isn't super fucking gay. And I fap to futa so I would know gay.
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>>60813007
We've had these kinds of designs since near the beginning of recorded history. You're literally complaining over nothing here.
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>>60812893
Reminds me of a shemale fairy story where she fucked a guy's dick and laid her eggs in his balls that way.
God I wish that had been me.
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I like them as chimeric, like this sculpture (named "Химepa") by Nonhuman.
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>>60807146
Don't most monsters breed through sex?
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>>60813071
Yes, but with members of its own species. No creature on earth procreates by fucking another unrelated race.
>God creates Adam and Lilith
>Lilith wants to be equal to Adam and he refuses so she runs away
>God makes Eve to be Adam's subservient waifu
>Lilith is cucked
>eventually meets the banished Cain and starts a relationship with him
>the children of God and their respective partners watching from the shadows, eagerly awaiting to take their place at our side as it should have been
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>>60813054
Oh wow that thing. Anyone got /x/'s fanart of it?
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>>60812973
>hurr i dun understand why people like thing what is attraction
A goddamn anaconda snake squeezing you isn't ANYWHERE near the same as a lamia doing the same (and giving you her ample bosom to use as a cushion).

If you wanna complain about cosplay-tier consider that maybe people aren't interested in the physical so much as the psychological.
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>>60813131
>Yes, but with members of its own species.
But what if the species is 'monster'?
They all share the same mother, Echidna, the mother of monsters of Greek myth.
Only, she used to mate with a motherfucking (not literally, gotta specify with the greek myths) Typhon, the vengeance of Gaia made flesh, not flimsy humans.
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>>60813258
Here's some fanart of him.
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>>60813284
Then why do they need any non-human parts at all, if it's meant to be psychological? Why not let them squeeze you with their human legs?
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>>60813398
Not them, and not someone who's sexually into the whole monsters/monstergirls/whatever thing.

But I like it because for me it's almost like extreme body modifications. It plays on a weird middle ground where I can't relate to it too much if it's too much of a monster/animal. But I like the aesthetic of say, blue skin or whatever.

It's like humanoid alien designs.

To give a non-human example, I like sea slugs, and I like rabbits, but I also really like the Sea Slugs that look like rabbits.
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>>60813398
A wild lamia in the grasslands squeezing you with 150 pounds of muscle and scales != a woman squeezing you with some flimsy human legs

Are you playing devil's advocate? Or is this just really going over your head? For a lot of people it's the thrill or the danger of having a MONSTER (hot as they may be) who's easily capable of putting you six feet under, but doesn't (because that would be a pretty shitty end to your story).
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>>60807194
Why do I find this arousing? I have this fang fetish... what is wrong with me?
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>>60813462
https://www.patreon com/Snekguy
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harpies are inhuman non-sapient monsters who eat people.
mermaids are inhuman non-sapient monsters who eat people.
the entire "beautiful women but a monster" is about inhuman monsters who eat people. it's supposed to be a cautionary tale, not waifubait shit.

that frankly isn't really needed with males because traditionally speaking, male monsters are always killed no questions asked, but men are easily fooled by a pretty humanish face even if it belongs to a monster.
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>>60813607
>it's supposed to be a cautionary tale, not waifubait shit
Which is why 50/50 in myth it is just waifubait shit.
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>>60813607
Then clearly the male monsters must be indistinguishable from human males, up until they are against the strings or really really angry.

Or maybe I find terribly cute the idea of monsterboys hiding amidst the humans, eternally shamed over not being able to save the "species" or maybe plain old scared of the ladies.
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>>60813607
>it's supposed to be a cautionary tale
Anon this is about sex, not cautionary mumbo-jumbo
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>>60813607
vorefags always ruin everything
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>>60801033
>any Monstergirl setting is shit and stupid
ftfy
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>>60813012
Well inherent to the term "monsterboy" in equivalence to "monstergirl" they only come in three flavors
D&D furry, twink trap shit, or /fit/fag
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>>60812779
I'm kinda showing my hand about how gay I might be, but that's not a kitsune boy, it's a character from Touken Ranbu- which is a Kancolle type game about famous japanese swords that likes to pretend is aimed at women. That's just his hair.
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>>60814232
I know. The shota kitsune boy is my favorite, but anon didn't ask for shotas, so y'know.
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>>60814161
Seems disingenuous to imply there's nothing between "chad", "virgin" and "thats just a fuckn wolf". You just gotta know where to look.
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Monsterboys flock to human men because they know they'll be cherished and showered in gentle affection, unlike the rough "loving" monstergirls subject them to.
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>>60814642
Truly, skinship between boys and men is the best.
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>>60814161
And i'm fine with at least two of those, if not all three, on females but the people who pay to see monsterboys are prancing la-la homo fags.
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>>60814716
According to sankaku complex, the amount of monsterboy porn furry AND otherwise is more heterosexual than homosexual.
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>>60801033
no dick? what a shitty universe, monstergirls at least hint at clits
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>>60813054
Cat is fine too.
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>>60814669
Your monsterboy may be hesitant at first, especially if you're male instead of female, but when he realizes intimacy with you NEVER involves knives or whips he'll really start to come out of his shell.
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>>60801083
>But if there were monsterboys then there would be no narrative impetus for all the cute monstergirls to lustfully rape the god-fearin' human boys in order to reproduce.
Good. Honestly, the biggest appeal of monster girl x human relationship comes from the "star-crossed livers" element of it, the monster girl being adapted to hunt and kill humans; she's going against her nature to be with you, and you know just how dangerous she could be to you, but there's trust because you love eachother. This has always been the appeal of monster girls for me since I first considered the concept, which was at least 12 years ago. If monster girls literally exist specifically to have sex with humans, it completely defeats the purpose and negates the appeal of them being monsters. I guess you could say I like monster girls, I just don't like the current concept of monster girls that is widely in vogue at the moment.
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>>60814952
Anon you're probably not in line with the rest of the general but for all I'm concerned, you got monstergirls right. That's how I think of them too because I'm romantic
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>>60814952
I approve of that. I don't have vitriol towards the people who just wanna fap to monster girls (or monster boys for that matter), but whenever I see posts like >>60801083 it makes me wonder if they're being serious or if they're mocking the losers who genuinely think that way.
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>>60814952
I aprove on that as well. You have my kudos and some crappy drawing because why not.
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>>60814952
>>60815549
Monsters in my setting are all just, mentally "wrong" somehow. For example, lamia have an intense, instinctive revulsion for the gods. A human can easily form a rapport with them, even a romantic bond, but actually asking your lamia girlfriend to marry you is a good way to make her panic about being dragged to a church for some nefarious dark ritual, and if you want to live in civilized lands with her you had better hope she never crosses paths with a cleric.
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>>60806354
>underestimating women
>underestimating the fetish power of women with swords
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>>60807146
Anon.

You already know the answer to this.
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-4 Str
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>>60812578
>two fall in love with each other
>for the first time in a thousand years, a monster-monster couple
>Pregnancy ensues
>Wut.jpg
>baby is a real monster instead of a human with monster bits tacked on
>:|
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>>60801033
Male counterpart of monster girl is a tentacle monster, not monsterboy. And yes, any decent weeb fetish setting has some.
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>>60814952
What if they hunt and kill humans by fucking then to death?
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>>60813019
You sure that's a guy? Looks like it has boobs.
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>>60801033
Found it.
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>>60816039
Good old snu snu, classic!
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>>60801033
>Monstergirls
>Not shit already

>Adding monsterboys
>Not making it more shit
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>>60814952
I like this way of it too. Taking sex except for purposes of procreation in that after fade to black there's the chance someone could have a kid out of it, I think you could tell some really interesting stories out of the differences with groups as well.

For Chinese Harem dramas, which are pretty PG, there are tons of different ways that each of their cultural groups come together and change the dynamics of normal Harem politics.

It's fun to think about how that could be exaggerated even more with different species groups with monster girls. But trying to bring that up with people just becomes people treating it like you're trying to make a game around fetishes or something.

Not that there's anything wrong with that either, but I'm just trying to run a PG drama here.
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>>60815908
My penis demands more
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>>60816283
Female lamias have an astounding adaptation, a vagina-like entrance to their digestive tract where their human and snake torsos meet.
Male lamias lack this adaptation, instead having to unhinged their jaw to devour their prey (as they cannot chew).
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Very sexy so people seek it out by themselfs.
It would just be a slut on instinct.
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>>60812973
I often wondered the same. I guess ther still is this stigma to not be counted as furry if you prefer antropomorphic animals over literal cosplying humans.
Though if I remember correctly furry was once more the kind of people who want to be the animal person, not fuck it.

But I agree. Design wise I never really liked the human with animal ears type. At least make them look like some kind of other humanoid.
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>Why not let them squeeze you with their human legs?
Because that's shit-tier compared to a snakebody coiling around you
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>>60816509
People don't like furries because furries don't just want to fap to the shit, they formulate their entire identity around it. You don't see people crying futasecution when people tell them to stop waving their fucking futasuits in other's faces and having degenerate 'conventions'.
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>>60811917
Does this count?
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Any of y'all got less monstrous cyclopes?
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>>60811917
I was in a similar place, got a couple that'll work.
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Izuna's pretty cool.
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>>60817749
>being this wrong
What's it like being the exact same kind of 1D personality you just bitched about?
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>>60820290
>furries are still this delusional
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>>60817749
They didn't say the word "futasecution", but everything else you said I've seen with my own eyes.
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>>60812702
>Shota Inu
YES
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>>60815631
That kind of reminds me of one of the few human nations in my setting. It was started by (no joke) a low level beuracrat of an elven nation that hated how gods were above the law and tried to dictate the after life. So eventually he said "I'm gonna make my own kingdom, with hookers and blow and no afterlife".

Now at the center of the kingdom is a giant necromantic focus that takes the souls of every person that dies in the kingdom and puts them in a gem to sleep forever. Really is pissing off demons and other soul traders, because tons of terrible people go there to die now just to escape punishment.
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>>60815915
Or even better, they just end up with regular humans
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>>60801033
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>>60801083
>Not wanting to play a chad monsterguy alpha who slaughters his rival and bangs bitches.
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>>60812973
>They don't look like proper creatures to me, they look more like one-off genetic freaks or watered down half/quarter breeds.
Isn't that what you'd get with monstergirl/monsterboys crossed with human blood?
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Monsterboys are cute! Cute!
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>>60820465
>Still being buttmad this many years later.
You really are 1D ain't you? You have my pity
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>tfw no nekomata bf
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>>60830930
>hey kid, wanna ssss?
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>>60801033
jesus, that lizardboy in OP is ridiculously hot, wtf
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>>60832203
You are wrong, he is for cuddle, not ssss!
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>>60802406
Actually you're onto something because that was actually the original conception of them. They were utterly sterile and would go in the guise of a female to seduce a male, get his rocks off, then go in the guise of a male to impregnate a female.
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>>60812893
Dooogfiiish?
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>>60807261
ALL HUMIE WOMEN ARE QUEENS, GRONK!
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>>60813053
You got sauce on that story?
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>>60807146
Likely all female since there are a lot more logistics to consider in an all male species. If there are wide body differences, the women of other species might not be able to handle the birthing process, the women will also have to be kept captive and alive however long it takes for the pregnancy to come to term, lastly, in order to keep the population up, a lot more women would have to be captured and held than men. An all female species eliminates the first problem and reduces the second and third problems.
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>>60807146
They would have to have either an overall very small population compared to other humanoid races, or an incredibly slow breeding rate. Alternatively, at least some portion of the offspring would be human, albeit with portions of monster DNA.

None of this Monmosu quest "There are like 50 species of monstergirl, most of which are common enough that you'll run into a few just walking along any major road, and they all breed nonstop whenever they get a human" bullshit. Humanity would go extinct so quickly that nobody would even have time to say "Illyas was right". And since Monstergirls are reliant on humanity's continued survival for their own survival, they go extinct too.
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>>60807146
Females would have a clitoral stinger that induces an uncontrollable erection.

"huh, I didn't even use my stinger yet"
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>>60807261
>>60833523
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC6Z9tKYCf4
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Very happy this thread has lasted so long.
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>>60814952
Wise words. But seriously, you completely nailled what make something romantic (as in, an impossibility/Difficulty in the love)
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>>60834398
That's good and dandy, but what can we craft out of it?
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>>60834019
>They would have to have either an overall very small population compared to other humanoid races, or an incredibly slow breeding rate. Alternatively, at least some portion of the offspring would be human, albeit with portions of monster DNA.

Not necessarily. An all female true-breeding species only needs to maintain an average fertility rate of roughly 1.05 to maintain population if 95% of the population reaches maturity. A species could potentially reproduce by sexually induced parthenogenesis (asexual reproduction triggered by non-fertilizing sexual copulation). In effect this species would be a third sex when paired with a normal m/f species with a 2.1 fertility rate.
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>>60814952
You do realise the exact EXACT same logic applies for monsterboys right? Like this is why so many women want to fuck the vampire/the werewolf/the fish guy.
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>>60814952
>star-crossed livers
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>>60835221
is this a bayonetta enemy?
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>>60835132
You craft a love story were none of the lover is just "naturally attracted" to the other. If a Monster girl will jump on the first man they see, then the love is pretty much boring. It mean that the guy would have another girlfriends had he took another way. There is no point of any of the two having to make an effort for their love to works. But if it take effort for them to maintain a relationship, then the simple act of trying is romantic. It can fail, but you know that they really wanted it to work.
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>>60835329
Allow me to rephrase my question as to make my intent more clear.

That's good and dandy, but when do we get sh*t done?
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>>60835365
You know you can say sex, right?
You have sex when you wan't it. Romance and sex are not mutually exclusive.
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>>60812973
If 9ft tall women with horns and red skin existed in the real world, I wouldn't need monstergirl porn.

Unfortunately, they do not.
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I don’t understand. I mean. Monsters as you envision them would basically have no conflicts with humans.

>Human men grateful to mate with beautiful 10/10 “monster” girls who have lower standards than human women and have no desire to ever cheat
>Human women get top tier dangerous, strong, alpha, virile, and sexy monsterbros who can also be sweet sometimes
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>>60839037
>lower standards
Different standards, not lower. Their attraction is based on something other than just looks and material wealth. Those things are factored in but their primary judgment must be other things, likely involving human spirits.
And conflicts could come from places other than flat out war/hunts. Dealing with the social conflicts of consent and the specifics of children and populations. If the monsters always breed true then humanity, and then the monsters, will die out. If they don't always breed true then you have entire social classes of humans born from both human parents or some abhuman parents.
There is also the man vs nature/man vs himself conflicts that crop up. How is the drider supposed to react when he checks his pig traps and sees a beautiful woman there? Does he bring her home to make sure she's safe? Its been days since he check this trap. But what if he can't reign in his desires in the mean time? Should he risk trying to drop her off at the walled city? One that shuns him for offending some god or that their primary abhuman species is his rival?
The conflict is smaller for certain but it is still there. These kinds of monsters make for more intimate stories where you will learn about 2-5 characters and they will drive the plot.
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>>60801033
My setting does have a male counterpart to monstergirls.
They're called monsters.
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Tzeentchian monsterboys yes or yes
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>>60840094
10/10 would smooch
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>>60842158
Are those demon balls I see?
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>>60842249
I think so.
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>>60832187
>4 ears
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>>60842792
Double the fun
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