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Commander Damage Edition

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RESOURCES
>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their decks strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commanders color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/

CARD SEARCH

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
http://magiccards.info

>Also unofficial, also has GOAT search interface.
http://scryfall.com

>Thread Question
What's your favorite life gain card?
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>>60801790
>What's your favorite life gain card?
Primal command
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>>60801790
Patron of the Kitsune and Righteous Cause
Note that they don't say "creature you control", so whenever anyone attacks anyone else, you gain 1 life per attacking creature (2 per with both out).
Best part is nobody usually cares, since they see it as "eh, it's just a couple life" or they completely forget about it when combat doesn't involve you at all.
Also Noble Purpose, since it's lifelink before lifelink, it isn't keyworded, and thus stacks with lifelink. Perfect with True Conviction for gaining massive life.
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>>60801790
>TQ
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>What's your favorite life gain card?
Didn't say it had to apply to me...
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>>60801790
I'm also pretty partial to the Soul Sisters / Authority of the Consuls
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Reminder: Tomorrow at 2 PM Pacific (PST) on twitch.tv/Magic for the C18 stuff.
Presumably no cards (maybe 1 at most), but we will get to see some art and learn the deck themes and colors, and maybe the packaging. (with the front cards blurred or blanked, obviously)
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So July banlist update is out and no new bans, where's my $100?
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>>60802282
He have until the 27th to make it a whole year if i remember well. Let him enjoy his last few weeks alive, the poor guy...
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>>60801790
Blind obedience bcuz i just bought one foil and the card is legit gorgeous.
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>>60802282
AN HERO WHEN
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>>60802282
The time is coming.
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>inbr4 emergency ban on 07/24/18
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>TQ
Make it infinite life
>>60802125
Presumably no cards (maybe 1 at most), but we will get to see some art and learn the deck themes and colors, and maybe the packaging. (with the front cards blurred or blanked, obviously)
What's the fucking point on it being a twitch? Can't I just read some article
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>tq
This right here.
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How fun is an Anafenza deck?
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>>60801790
>>Thread Question
>What's your favorite life gain card?

One of the best in my opinion. Who dosnt like a better sanguine bond with their lifelink?
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A very close friend of mine got his hands on a M19 Scapeshift for his Angry Omnath deck, the thing is this friend doesn't understand very well the Valakut + Scapeshift combo... Care someone to explain it to him like he's an autistic faggot?
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>>60802787
What kind of an Anafenza deck?
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>>60802125
>no "each planeswalker is one of the nine titans" square
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>>60803008
Maybe spirits, I am not sure what else to do with her.
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>>60802993
"a friend of mine"
Uh-huh
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>>60803026
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>>60802993
you get a bunch of mountains and valakut

up to this point I thought this concept was retard proof
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>>60802993
Why don't you google it instead of asking here?
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>>60802993
As long as you have 6 mountains come in they are see each other and trigger Valakut. If there is only five, no trigger.
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>>60803020
The problem with Anafenza is that the level of fun kind of depends on what you're playing and what your opponents are doing. +1/+1 Counters is usually fun while Graveyard hate is fun unless the Golgari / Sultai player is going to get really butthurt about it.
If you're going to build spirits, then tokens are probably going to be the way to go. Beyond that though, I'm afraid I wouldn't know what to tell you.
Are you going to tutor Aura Shards and indestructible effects to make sure you're the only one with artifacts or enchantments? Probably unfun to play against (and hence, unfun to play, at least for me).
Are you going to stick Forbidden Orchard as quickly as possible to make sure everybody has some spirit buddies and then combo everyone to death at instant speed? Probably more fun
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>>60802787
Which Anafenza, mono-white or abzan?
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>>60803074
Yeah but when I read that each Mountain checks itself I got confused.

>>60803080
Well, I was hoping this EDH related thread from a chinese cartoon forum might help a new player... which is my friend.
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>>60803140
Abzan.
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Can I play walking ballista for x=0 then sac it to my arcbound ravager before it dies?
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>>60803239
No.
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>>60803260
thanks judge
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>>60803069
Hahaha it's cool bro
Basically the Valakut ability checks each time a land enters the battlefield. Since Scapeshift resolves all at once, the triggers all see each other simultaneously. In other words, if you have Valakut and sac six lands to Sapeshift to tutor for six mountains, the mountains enter before the number is checked, so you get six separate triggers off of Valakut. When you start duplicating Valakuts with Thespian's Stage, Vesuva, or Mirage Mirror, each triggers separately /again/, so you get three damage per copy of Valakut, or hopefully enough to melt all of your opponents.

If you also have Omnanth out then you get a trigger for each new land, or that many new elementals, which you can sac for even more damage

Did that help?
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>>60803136
All of this seems pretty fun to me and my table, since we already have a few decks that do pretty oppressive stuff and people are fine and just hate it out. None of us are generally bad so we know threads and how to deal with them so GY decks will deal with Anafenza instead of getting mad about it.
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>>60803275
*That is, three damage per copy of Valakut per Mountain. If you stick, say, Blood Moon beforehand, you can empty your deck of Mountains /and/ nonbasics and blow up everybody and everything
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So been thinking about doing a land.dek for a while, have angry omnath sitting in my binder, but was wondering if anyone had any other commander suggestions.
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>>60803274
704.3 & 704.5f
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>>60803318
That's good. I can't exactly say the same thing about my group. Overall I'd probably rate her about a 7/10 on the fun scale. She's not broken and her ability is only hateful for specific strategies and she's a cute girl, so give her a shot.
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>>60803353
Titania or Azusa for mono-G
Angry Omnath for Gruul
Gitrog for Golgari
Hazezon Tamar for Naya

I personally suggest Titania, since everyone always just builds Angry Omnath or Gitrog and nobody builds her.
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>>60803464
No U.
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>>60803464
I mean if you want to 'geddon yourself it could work. You could improve it with Splendid Reclamation, but I'd probably just run Allosaurus Rider or Kalonian Twingrove

Either way, Sylvan Safekeeper would probably be better in Titania
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>>60803382
What do you rate high on the fun scale?
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>>60803275
>>60803345
Dude thanks!
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>>60803464
If you want to be a memelord, sure.
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>>60801790
>What's your favorite life gain card?
It looks so innocuous.
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>>60801884
combos well with my favorite
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>>60803606
>the set that never was
I have one of those too. I love it so much.
I don't care if it's technically inefficient due to being a 3 mana colorless mana rock, I still love it.
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>>60803573
Most of the Klan leaders from Khans block are notable, for starters
Alesha 6/10 (to pilot) - 5/10 (to play against) - 2/10 (to play against w/ Sneak Attack Master of Cruelties)
Narset 9/10 (to pilot) - 2/10 (to play against)
Yasova 10/10 (to pilot) - 7/10 (to play against)*

*I've never played against Yasova, but my friends tell me she's not bad

>>60803581
Ye men. Good luck
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>>60803464
I'd rather play this
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>>60803275
One more question, does Valakut need to be on the battlefield before Scapeshift o can I search it with Scapeshift?
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>>60803345
Fuck this was stupid. Don't use Blood Moon; it turns off Valakut. Go for Nylea's Presence, Prisimatic Omen, or something similar. How did I miss that?

>>60803710
I don't think so. It'll still see the other lands entering at the same time it enters, so it'll still trigger for each Mountain anyway
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>>60803660
How do you build your Narset?
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>>60803660
I just realized you said Yasova, honestly I have been very interested in her but I have not the slightest idea how to make her good.
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>>60803628
The thing that's dangerous about it is that it's lifegain on a mana ability. There's some nonsense you can get away with, triggering abilities when you shouldn't be able to.
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>>60803802
Superfriends, Auras, Global Enchantments, and Extra Turns / Combat Phases
Narset's the only creature in the deck and I set up her ability with things like Brainstorm and Long Term Plans as her ability triggers. Assemble the Legion and Inexorable Tide are all-stars

>>60803824
My Yasova is basically a Threaten deck with a lot of clone effects (like Progenitor Mimic, Fated Reflection, etc). I have a few effects that let me sacrifice creatures for free (Greater Good / Ashnod's Altar, etc), but for the most part it's extremely fair
Word of Seizing, Dominus of Fealty, and Zealous Conscripts are great for stealing people's planeswalkers and ulting them
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>>60801790
>TQ
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So I bought the Arohba deck, is there any way I can synergize it with Green White Dinosaurs?
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>>60803464
I do that, and people flip their shit every time. 4 mana for an effect worse than Zuran Orb is worth it for the kind of tilt Woody applies.
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>>60799330
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ulrich-slaps/
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>>60803957
Oh and I forgot to mention that if you build Narset, be sure to have a way to give her evasion and some way to get around your own Wrath effects. I recommend >>60803979, Flickerform, and Aqueous Form
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>>60804035
you could cut the cats...
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>>60802787
Not very
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Would Bruna be a good commander to build for my gf? She loves beating face with my Xenagos deck instead of combo as she's still pretty new to magic and she likes the "water" color and pretty badass women.
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>>60804076
Don't reply to my post
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What commander should I play?
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>>60804267
The one that does stuff when you or your opponents do stuff
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anyone have a good hanna list?
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>>60804267
Meren is a good one.
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>>60804267
Emrakul
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>>60804267
What decks make me an intellectual rapist?
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>>60804352
Baral
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>>60804175
Why don't you ask her?
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Just to be clear if an artifact of mine is sacrificed with Daretti emblem on the field and it stops being an artifact before my turn ends I still get it back right?
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>>60804035
>Is there anyway to synergize a cat tribal card with dinosaurs

Are you okay?
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>>60804435
If you mean that it's been made into an artifact by Liquimetal Coating or Mycosynth Lattice or whatever, then yes
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>>60802951
I love Orzhov titty windows
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>>60804035
to elaborate on why you shouldnt, and cant make them synergize:
the commander doesnt care about both tribes
the tribes have no synergy with one another
GW has no good dinosaur payoff unlike GWR with Gishath
I dont know what you have to smoke to think putting the two together is a good idea
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>>60804537
How did Teysa get a hold of Feldon's Cane?
Will her outfit be lewd in RtRtR?
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>>60804462
good shit just wanted to know before I sac all my lands to KCI with lattice on field
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>>60804352
mishratism
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>>60804576
>Will her outfit be lewd in RtRtR?
Why do you ask questions you already know the answer to?
Sexy women on Magic cards are unacceptable nowadays.
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>>60804267

MAKE NEW RAT
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>New thread Question:

How many of you don't care about the new story at all and just play the game?
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>>60804725
New rat?
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>>60801790
>TQ
does axis of mortality count?
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>>60804369
Wanted it to be a little surprise and I couldn't really think of any other pretty badasses in blue.
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>>60804755
NEW RAT
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>>60804653
You say that, but sheer force of continuity has kept Nissa's boob window and Liliana's cleavage kicking around this whole time.
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>>60804755
I MAG NEW RAD xDDDD :DDDD :DDD :DDDDD
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Commander spoilers WHEN
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>>60804849
2 PM on the weekly mtg twitch channel,west time i believe? idk i'm from yuropoor, if someone can tell me which hour you are at rn please
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>>60804831
Nissa really does have some nice cans
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>>60804874
2pm PST, so from 2200-0200 your time depending on where you are. Either way its at late night
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>>60804894
France, so it will be 0000 when the spoiler list start. Good thing i'm a vampire NEET.
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Should I build Roon to perma exile my opponents creatures?
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>>60804997
While exile them when you can blink pic related to steal a creature from opponents every turn?

But if you want to go for the exile road, play with containment priest.
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>>60804831
>>60804883
the fact that you bring up such tiny amounts of cleavage should indicate to you the direction which cleavage is going here
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>>60805038
Why* sorry it's 6 am i start to be kinda retarded. Also you can exile with sundial if you want some redundancy after priest and gilded.
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please give me a jund lands commander wizards
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>>60805075
Adun Oakenshield
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>>60805075
You're getting dual color planeswalker commanders
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>>60805046
The point is, if their cleavage can make it, so can Teysa's.
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>>60805075
Not so much land oriented but he promise to be fun (and political). I'm really hyped about building him. Too bad good jund stuff is really pricey.
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>>60801790
Exquisite Blood + Tainted Remedy
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>>60804576
>How did Teysa get a hold of Feldon's Cane?
that's a great question.
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>>60805220
Is it weird that I recognized it?
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>>60805242
no. i loved that card when i was younger.
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>>60804576
>>60805220
There are multiple of those canes, Feldon found one of the first.
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>>60805246
See I didn't though. I've seen it like three times total
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>>60805260
>On Dominaria
If Teysa (On Ravnica) has one, I guess a planeswalker must have carried one there and given it to her. Technically plausible, but I kind of want to know the story of why she has one. The artist of this alter has my attention and respect
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Did Bolas CHOOSE to look like a fucking gremlin? He actually managed to look like a damn dragon before he became a walker
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>>60805272
yeah okay that's a little weird

>>60805260
are you saying that because it's not legendary? it came out before legends were a thing.
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>>60805295
if they're going to make up look so fucking goofy they may as well bring back the real Bolas
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>>60805295
>>60805323
nicol bolas is known to shapeshift and his appearance is likely a function of his own desire.
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>>60805297
No he's right. Feldon's Canes are (Thran?) artifacts that are rare but still around. Feldon just discovered them
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>>60805295
>>60805323
>>60805337
>The only thing Bolas really wants is the one thing he can't truly manage: TO BE HUMAN
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>>60805297
I'm saying that because of the flavor text on the actual card
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>>60805353
>This
>Human

How does anyone take him seriously?
If I saw this fucking faggot monologuing I'd laugh at him
I bet the other Elder Dragon's fucking bullied him as a child
Only reason why this loser lived long enough to become a walker is because his brothers and sisters didn't show him the mercy of ending his existence before they died because they didn't view him as an actual threat
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>>60805456
i make joke, anon
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>>60805456
Can't disagree, he really looks like shit.
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>>60805456
of course they bullied him, he's a fucking nerd, he's the most try-hard color combination (grixis) and spends his free time reading books
>>60805323
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>>60805485
Good analysis / 10
I accept all of this as completely true
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>>60805138
Any spice in mind for this bad boy? Blue is the main color to control top of library, what do we have in jund to get maximum value for us and least value possible for the opponents with Vaevictis?
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Any spicy tech for Locust God?
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>>60805616
Sol Ring.
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>>60805616
Dimir Charm
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>>60805616
Blue-Eyes White Dragon
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>>60805688
>Locust God
>Dimir Charm
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>>60805704
They'll never expect it! Genius!
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>>60805616
Impact Tremors
Gratuitous Violence
All the card draw you can get
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>>60805616
Omen Machine
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>>60805616
Locust God is 100% solved, my man. He's got as much spice as white bread.
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>>60805704
>not putting off-color cards in your deck and seeing if anyone notices
do this with banned cards too
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>>60805138
I ended up pulling two of him at the prerelease. Any recommendations for synergy other than weird jund lantern control?
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>>60805833
sure, chaos jund feat. goblin tokens for maximum flavor
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>>60805833
Run Phage in the deck if you're not a chickenshit
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>>60805616
Anything in Nekusar that isn't black
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>>60805727
Warstorm Surge too
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>>60805833
It that Betrays
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Jesus christ, are you retards too dumb to google or check edhrec before asking already answered questions in the thread?
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>>60805941
Chill out man. It's a discussion thread, not a net deck thread
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>>60805965
>EDHRec
>Netdeck
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>>60805965
>Questions are literally asking what cards go well with X commander
Might as well be netdecking
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Is pic related as much value as I think?

She's whispering in my ear to build a deck around her.
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>>60806024
Oh boy, another boring UG deck using an unoriginal commander. Also, if you have to play lands to draw cards in UG, you're doing something wrong.
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>>60805995
>Site that compiles deck lists for each commander and calculates how well each potential piece fits into the whole, including a literal 'average deck' function
>Not a net decking tool
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Sure is summer...
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>>60806076
Yeah, July normally means it's summer, you fucking dolt.
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>>60806024
yes she is stupid value, get ready to have a shitload of ways to land multiples lands a turn.

>>60806061
Stfu tardo, i know your kind, everything is 'unoriginal' or 'boring' as long as its not the pile of junk you made or have more than 5 decks registered on edhrec, Literally kys.
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Is CommandZone just an hour long ad for UltraPro?
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>>60806094
UG players everyone
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>>60806095
STFU I don't see you making Magic videos from your mom's basement
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>>60806106
Pile of retarded shit 'muh combo is forbidden in my playgroup or else i make a tantrum' players everyone
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Island should be banned.
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>>60806138
Under 75% players should be banned.
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>>60806129
>>60806106
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>>60806024
I've played against her. She's pretty fun and puts out good value. I was a turn from winning, but the land animation spell from DOM fucked me up in the end
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Someone post their turn 1 or 2 win decks.
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>>60806095
kind of. they also do a good job of spiking the prices on rl cards.

>>60806024
"you draw cards" isn't a very fun commander imo. she is great tho.
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>>60806094
Exploration, Oracle of Mul Daya, Courser of Kruphix, Crucible of Worlds, Burgeoning, and the sac lands I can fit in Simic. Hoping that'll be enough.

>>60806165
>isn't a very fun commander
Do Commanders need to be fun? I'm looking at her more as gas to get to my fun cards and wincons.

Hell, I'm not building a landfall deck around her either.
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>>60806160
literally anything with sunscorched desert will do the trick, rest of the table usually scoops out of rage
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>>60806179
>Do Commanders need to be fun?
do games need to be fun?
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>>60806120
Jimmy and Josh won't have sex with you just because you defended them on 4chan
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>>60806160
My Ayli artos secret tech.
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>>60802787
I play an anafenza the foremost hatebears deck

It's pretty great as long as you consider gathering the most hatred and salt to be a form of victory
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>>60806185
Unironically no. Fun ain't determnited by the cards you play but by your skill and the one your opponents deploy. A concept Timmies like you have difficulties to grasp.
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>>60806248
I thought fun was determined by the people you play with.

I stopped playing with someone recently when they stopped being fun to sit at a table with.
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>>60806248
some deep wisdom there
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>>60806242
Gosh i love hatebears deck too. But nothing mine salt better than enchant prison decks. The kind of shit where your t2 is RIP, t3 solemnity, t4 humility then decree of silence to combo with solemnity in order to counter everything who could potentially be played. Table concede assured.
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>>60806189
josh might
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>>60805272
>I RECOGNIZE THAT CANE!
>include me in the screenshot!

Is this what you wanted?
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>>60806300
Kek, i unironically sharted myself when i opened the pic, i thought it was me and you somehow managed to doxx me. I really am a fedora tipper and i wear those kind of dud all the time.. this is perfect.
Saved.

I can't stop laughing now, seriously gg bro
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>Opponent mana screws me with a turn 1 Daze on my Sol Ring, which I needed for mana rocks.
>Do nothing for an hour and a half while my two opponents take 5-10 turns
Holy fucking shit this is boring someone just win already
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>>60806368
i'm glad you like it so much
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>>60806106
Except he's right.
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>>60806394
*5-10 minute turns
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>>60806394
>expecting to not get punished for a turn one sol ring
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>>60806394
who play daze in edh seriously?
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I fucking hate bounce.

God damn I need to build ruric thar FUCK
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>>60806479
*laugh in cyclonic*
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>>60806394
I’m so glad my group is casual and is enforced to stay casual
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>>60806479
Get cast triggers Anon.
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>>60806474
Mono U player seemingly exclusively running countermagic and clones.
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>>60806496
It's a viable strategy or it's just to piss on everyone at the table?
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>>60806511
It pisses on everyone at the table regardless.
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>>60806513
Yes but does it win?
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>>60806511
i have a deck with 20 counterspells. it's pretty good. the key is to have good win conditions in addition to the counter magic.

but no i don't play daze...
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>>60806511
Running that density of countermagic is pretty decent when you effectively only have one opponent making plays for the remainder of the game
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>>60806519
Yeah, you just need to set up a lockout or a combo usually
Blue has plenty
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>>60806543
By wincons i guess you mean some labman combo or related?
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>>60805616
a mountain
and maybe some islands

how about you make insect tribal instead, or draw-go control with it?
something unique, something fun.
locust is boring as fuck to play against, like wow you cast your commander and THEN a wheel. you sure are good at the game
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>>60806064
different anon, but edhrec builds pretty shitty decks and i doubt anyone copies it at a 1:1 ratio
that said people should check edhrec for obvious staples
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>>60806024
>build a deck around her
yeah including lands is pretty good
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>>60806575
my deck isn't combo/doesn't have labman but counters are probably best when protecting combos. all combo decks need a way of protecting their combo pieces.
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>>60806597
This. Most edhrec decks are bad. But it's perfect to be sure you didn't forgot any obvious staple or to find some rare spice, even if most decks are badly constructed, everyone have here and there a genius spark you could use.
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>>60806623
Then what are your finisher if you don't combo out?
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>>60806637
big bois
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>>60804576
I'm afraid not, I have it on good authority that this is leaked teysa art from rav3.
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What is your favourite tribe and why
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>>60806913
Eldrazi because who doesn't like MtG Cthulhu.

Also, because Phyrexian isn't a tribe.
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>>60806913
C L E R I C S
L
E
R
I
C
S

Heretics beware!
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>>60806913
I’ve always liked zombies although I’ve never built a deck around them

Recurring creatures always feels satisfying to me
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>>60806913
Changelings, my man.
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>>60806924
>Phyrexia
>Tribe
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>>60806913
Vampires, they are in my favorite colors, have cool art, and I like their abilities (lifegain, taking control of other creatures)
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I want to play something RNG/lotto based, what the is the most fun commander to play?
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>>60807005
Mein neger. I want so bad to build a cleric deck, we need MORE of them. The onslaught block was worth it just for them desu, it was always the most fun tribe to build in standard back then.
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>>60806913
goblins, because they are adorable little scamps in every planes and get into all kinds of shenanigans.
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>>60807012
Zombie have some special spice 2.0 everyone forgot about, i'm sure there is really something (really) gud to do with them.
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>>60807043
one of the cascade boys
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>>60807075
damn forgot the pic
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>have thrasios and seedborn muse out
>after everyone's blown a lot of their removal
I know I'm a bad person now because I had a massive erection activating thrasios 2-3 times every turn
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>>60807084
Wouldn't filth and Urborg be better?
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>>60807020
Did you only read two words out of his entire post?
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>>60807124
Being ironic ....LOVING PHYREXIA
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>>60807147
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>>60801790
>TQ
Anyone who doesn't say Congregate probably has something else.
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>>60803353
The new Jund Dragon puts you in Gitrog + Omnath colours and gives you access to Life from the Loam
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>>60807161
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>>60804725
I MAEK NEW RAT
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>>60807111

Are you bad. It MAKES it a swamp until end of turn, you cut out mana.
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>>60807111
If you want to have unblockable shit sure, but i was more thinking about the contamination effect. Imagine if you have a way to untap one of your zombie any number of time, you could transform at their upkeep all the lands of your opponents in swamp.
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>>60807046
I had plenty of foils of the old clerics in my Ayli deck, but shamefully I've been cutting them. My favorite cleric of all time is still there, pic related
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>>60807234
Patrician choice anon, mine is pic related.
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>>60807241
This is a damn good card. Shame that I have none, even though I probably need one in each of my white decks. It would be baller in my Hanna especially, since I could always get Serra's sanctum and Flagstones of Trokair to set up for Armageddon.
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>>60807053
And doesn't afraid of anything
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>>60806913
I dont have any favorites since a lot of tribes appeal to me, but none particularly more so than others.
If I had to pick one it would probably be my only tribal deck, Elementals. That, or wizards for their flexibility.
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>>60806913
>elves
when spike levels get a little too big and people are whipping out decks with a little bit more buck than the average bang it's nice to know I can always whip out my elfball deck and soak in all the "don't worry I have a answer next turn"s and the 'it doesn't even matter if I counter it he'll just play more elves" on turn 3.

>humans
Because I'm a human and some of the coolest people I know are human.
So I'm a little bias towards them
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>>60807260
Indeed the card is really crazy good, at each new land printed it get better. I can't help but fit him in all my white decks, often to fetch the thespian + depths combo. Having a 20/20 indestructible flying thanks to a 1/1 and a whooping cost of WW is always a great feeling.
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>>60807241
When is this nigga getting reprinted?
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What is the best site for looking up decks other than tapped out and edhrec?
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>a 12/12 with trample and doublestrike comes at you turn 5

can you stop it?
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>>60807342
I think he is 'shadowbanned' from the reprint list. Like with stoneforge mystic their excuse is 'it limit our design space'. They just hope for ppl to forget about him. After all the 9th was 13 fucking years ago, they had many occasions. Even if he is an underdog he slowly but surely creep up in value. I didn't checked his price for quite some time but i wouldn't be surprised if he is now in the $10+ range. While he was totally worthless for years. The cleric come back with a revenge.
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>>60807407
>still dies to removal
pshh, nothin personnel, kid
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>>60807323
Well, it's actually 2WW, but still pretty good. I've been thinking of adding DD to my Rafiq deck, what'd you think about that? It'd be a great mana sink for the double striking SoFaF or double combat Bear umbra. Believe or not, I've had most of such situations nothing to use my mana for. At best, I've had my Morphling do 64 damage on second damage step. I also need Brightling, but no one has it and it's got fuck expensive because of legacy D&T
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>>60807407
>Turn 5 you say? Perfect

Can YOU stop it anon?
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>>60807407
Sure
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>>60807471
hon hon hon hon
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>>60807426
Yeah he is like $10 now.
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>>60807469
It would be neat indeed. In bant colors you have many tools to make it worth. Sylvan safekeeper to protect marit lage + lower your number of lands if needed to trigger wayfarer, crop rotation into flagstones to fetch a dual + get a piece of the combo or any utilitary land and my favorite one : intuition tutoring for thespian + depths + loam, to get a recursive lage every 2 turns if needed.
So many options :D
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>>60807493
How the fuck do you know it's me? Seriously it get spooky dude.
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>>60807539
True, but I thought it more as a mana sink. I have Grunn, Mossbridge troll and Gemini engine as heavy hitters already, I don't feel necessary to focus getting ML out every time, I just like to have a dumb beefcake out every once in a while.
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>>60807407
No
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>>60807599
Oh ok.
Did you gave a try to pic related? I've heard here and there she was a very good mana sink.
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>>60804645
>everytime you play an artifact, verbally declare the trigger
>spend 30 seconds searching through library
>declare loudly 'fail to find'
>shuffle back up
>offer your deck up to an opponent to split
>completely blank any begrudging comments or questions as to why this is happening
>deck is 60%(or higher) artifacts
>win by forcing all opponents to scoop in rage because they cannot stand to sit through that shit everytime you drop a rock
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>>60807620
I feel that she's too mana intensive and her abilities are a little too weak without the land untappers, mostly because I focus on the combat damage triggers and swing with one creature at a time, only exception being pic related, but it's obvious why.
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>>60807697
To be fair, you always get a shuffle with Mishra, for Scroll rack or Top. Not to mention his synergy with Possibility storm
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>>60807707
Do you mind sharing your list? Im genuinely clueless about rafiq, never tried to build him nor encountered him.
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Is there any way to make a demon tribal deck good?
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>>60807770
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/combat-damages-and-triggers/
There you go. Keep in mind that it's somewhat casual list and I have uncommon list anyway, since most people who build him focus on voltron, which is the optimal build. I can update the deck description later if you wish, but I can also answer to any questions you'll probably have.
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>>60807789
What colors and what else do you want your deck to do other than vomit daemons?
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>>60807789
Idk but what i know is you HAVE to try this memecard if you want to brew one.

>>60807793
Thanks anon, i'll probably give the list a try soon on cocka, i always liked bant colors but we have so few good generals beside derevi..
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>>60807830
Not sure actually.
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>>60807849
Those would be the first questions to answer.
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>>60807837
>4 differents demons

Wait a minute... Pic related, tutorable with zur, add white for enlightened tutor for the contract.

Or maybe simply mono black? Add mutavault, metallic mimic, few cheap shapeshifter like Skeletal Changeling, a demon general, like the new Krav and all the barely playable demons like abyssal persecutor and the like.. Would be shit but winning with meme contract give me a mental boner.
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Uh, wtf is happening with karmic justice foil?

>https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Odyssey:Foil/Karmic+Justice#paper
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>>60807789
Shadowborn Apostle.
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>>60807940
Go Grixis with it. Blue to protect your wincon, black for daemons, red for more daemons and buffs.
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>mfw I can't watch the stream because I will be playing beer and pretzels EDH after 4-weeks break.
Hope you will keep me updated guys.
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>>60807999
shadowborn apostle is a combo deck that only runs like 5-6 demons total, and razaketh and rune-scarred demon are both among them
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>>60808062
Having like eight in your deck isn't a bad idea though. Sac them all, have a Gravepact or something in there for extra fun, tutor up Razaketh to grab the rest of your shit as you need it.

Don't really see a downside when running a daemon deck.
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>>60808090
shadowborn is only good in commander if you're running 20+ apostles, and athreos is the only really good commander for it
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>>60808159
Orzhov daemons would be really interesting.
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>>60803616
does "double target players life total" really mean "target player gains an amount of life equal to their current life"

are they the same thing
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>>60808212
No.

Life gain mechanics trigger things, skipping that step skips triggers.
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>>60808159

Shirei's alright
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>>60808212
Life-doubling and life-halfing counts as life-gain and life-loss, yes.
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What is the most fun Wizard themed commander deck?
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>>60808369
A Spellslinger deck with Wizards in it
Wizard Tribal is stupid
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Will /ourgirl/ be revealed today?
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>>60808378
I thought Wizard as an offensive tribal would be a little lacking.
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>>60808369
All i know is if you want to provoke a snowslide of salt with a wizard you play meddling mage and name the general of the most easily triggered opponent. 100% shitfest guaranteed after.
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I'm hoping for wedge Planeswalker Partners.
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Do Commander Spoilers start today or something?
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>>60808378
I don't know man, I'm having fun with Blink Inalla.
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>>60808394
Abuse ETBs, control the tempo of the game

Wizard tribal can be vicious.
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>>60808369
meguca themed wizards deck
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Commander 2k18 spoilers when?
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>>60808642
>>60808422
They actually canceled the 2018 decks. You guys should read the thread.
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>>60808642
We have our top men on it.
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>>60807789
No. But you must run Liliana as your commander.
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>>60808677
(X) Doubt
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>>60808703
The only way to know for sure is to read the entire thread.
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>>60802282
>>60802344
>>60802520
>>60802538
Day of the ABANDON HOPE.
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>>60804645
What if you played him with Mycosynth lattice and your choice of shadowborn apostles or relentless rats?

Getting Mycosynth out would be an issue, but it would make his ability do something.
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>>60802125
bottom left corner should be the "free" space :/
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>>60802951
never noticed tittie window before
thought this was a dude
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>>60808940
Nevermind, I just realized it only makes permanents artifacts and it only changes other cards to colorless.
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>>60807707
Fugg, this guy is one of the first rares my brother and I ever cracked. This game was so exciting back then
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>>60807940
Black also has Conspiracy anon. It costs 1 more but it'll get the job done
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dont forget
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>>60803353
Tatyova. Mana Breach + Storm Cauldron
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>>60805613
sylvan lib, scroll rack, tutors, mirris guile, top, lantern of insight/codex shredder, thats just off the top of my head
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>>60809018
How fun is Norin?
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>>60809139
Pretty fun actually. He takes quite a while to get going since he's heavily dependent on shit like Purphuros and other things that trigger with ETB.
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>>60809002
Anon, Conspiracy costs 5 mana
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>>60809139
pretty awful and boring even for mono red imo
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>>60809139
Just run Purph, it's the same deck.
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>>60809253
I enjoy the idea of chaos.
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>>60808369
Just draw cards

Play wizards that draw you cards, then tap them to draw more cards. Also, make sure all your instants/sorceries draw you cards too. If it does not mention drawing cards it does not belong in the deck.

>hardmode: dont add lab maniac (besides tapping he doesn't draw you cards)
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>>60809312
How would you win without Lab Man?
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>>60808369
Having actually done it like an actual madman, >>60808460 has the right of it
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>>60809319
Psychosis crawler? Mill with Jace's Erasure/Sphinx's Tutelage/Psychic Corrosion? Wizard beats as you vomit your whole deck onto the table?
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>>60809319
Share the love, help your opponents draw cards too !
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>>60809301
Then just play Vial Smasher.
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>>60808212
Yes, you can think of the text as "target player gains life equal to their life total, shuffle this card into your library"
This is why the combo with tainted remedy works so well , since tainted remedy says "If an opponent would gain life, that player loses that much life instead."
So beacon of immortality becomes "Choose one: Gain life equal to your current life total OR Target opponent loses life equal to their current life total"
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thoughts on sygg life loss+damage tribal? stuff like exsanguinate replaces itself so youre up on cards, and get to slowly burn everyone to death while you play permission
with cards that tear hands apart like mind twist, mind rend, that dimir mythic from dragons maze
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>>60808212
Basically. life total setting mechanics cause you to gain/lose life as appropriate. >>60808221 is an idiot, Wound Reflection + Blessed Wind will kill an opponent who started the turn at 40 (since they lose 20 from Wind and then 20 from Reflection)
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>>60809382
If he wants chaos why not arjun?

This way not even he knows what's comming next!
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>>60808212
>2/1/2007 If you double a negative life total, you do the real math. A life total of -10 becomes -20.
>7/15/2007 Beacon of Immortality’s effect counts as life gain (or life loss, if the life total was negative) for effects that trigger on or replace life gain (or life loss).
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>>60806300
saved
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Is Vela that bad?
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>>60809699
She's okay. You can build her in a few different ways (ninjas/bounce/aristocrats) plus she has cute synergy with Rite of Replication.
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Does Torgaar's etb count as life loss too?
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>>60810300
Yes. Any effect that says someone's life "becomes X" counts as either life gain or life loss.
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>>60810300
Yes, which makes pain reflection and the new battlebond demon hilarious.
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>>60810300
does the player have less life than before?
if yes then yes, its life loss
damage causes loss of life as well

brainlet
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New thread
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>>60810544
>>60810544
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>>60807043
Mayael the anima
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>>60804267
Gay kangz
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>>60807426
>After all the 9th was 13 fucking years ago, they had many occasions.
But they haven't had a reason until commander became huge
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>>60804267
one of them
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>>60807981

You know what's happening Anon. We all know.
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ye




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