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>Thread Question
What happened to the missing battletomes? Are we going all digital now?
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>>61351557
>What happened to the missing battletomes?
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Stormcast are best!
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Slaanesh when?
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>>61351620
hopefully never
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Repackage when?
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>>61351557
>What happened to the missing battletomes?
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SKYVEN WHEN?!
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Skaven should be destruction
Beast of Chaos should be renamed to beastmen and moved to destruction
Beastclaw Raiders should get a massive update and expansion
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>>61351607
*stormwaifus
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>>61351603
Likely was taken down on the hosting site, or even better, Gee Dubs had an employee make all our past threads without the link.
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>>61351673
bad art
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>>61351671
>Skaven should be destruction

Why?

>Beast of Chaos should be renamed to beastmen and moved to destruction

Why?

>Beastclaw Raiders should get a massive update and expansion

Should get souped back into Ogre Kingdoms more like.
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>>61351673
Thats a dude.
>>61351620
SOON, december I think.

Also made that thing in pic related this mornin.
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>>61351749
Sry for phone postin, Iam at work.
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>>61351766
What the fuck is that?
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>>61351810
Beast of Nurgle, made of GS and some snail shell.
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>>61351716
>>61351749
K
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>>61351845
Well good job I guess, that shit makes me want to vomit.
Looks like an aborted monkey.
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>>61351867
>aborted monkey
Hue-Hue anon? My first ever try at something bigger with GS, learned few imortant lessons.
Thing is heavy ass fuck with all that putty and I didnt make skeleton with plastic. Oh and having a plan helps...this was very random work, but hey Im chaos so ith a theme right?
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>>61351898
I think it was a compliment
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>>61351557

Anyone have experience with jabberslythe?
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>>61351749
>>61351766
If you sculpted it entirely yourself it's pretty good, there's a good margin for improvement but it still is pretty good.
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possibly-fake-anon here, are there sprues that do not have numbers on them?
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>>61351721
Why should Skaven be destruction?
Makes more sense

Why should beastmen be destruction?
Destruction needs another faction

>Should get souped back into Ogre Kingdoms more like.
Sure, what ever give them a book with 15+ warscrolls
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>>61352084
>Makes more sense

How?

>Destruction needs another faction

Why do they have to steal from Chaos to do get one?
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>>61352100
>How?
Skaven aren't very chaosy, they're far more destruction based.

Why do they have to steal from Chaos to do get one?
Yes, chaos works better with the factions for each God and their daemons. Beastmen breaks this set up and considering they could be made into another destruction faction of roaming herds of animal men that going around crushing things I think they should be.
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>>61352084

I agree with the point that destruction needs something aside from greenskins and ogres. GW did a great job when they introduced brand new armies (idoneth and flying dorfs) they shouldn't have problems with a brand new destruction army
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>>61352155
>Skaven aren't very chaosy, they're far more destruction based.

But they're chaos mutants, and build an under empire and answer to a central authority. How aren't they chaosy and how are they destructiony?

>Yes, chaos works better with the factions for each God and their daemons.

But they are not and have never been limited to that, so why remove an aspect of chaos?

>Beastmen breaks this set up and considering they could be made into another destruction faction of roaming herds of animal men that going around crushing things I think they should be.

So you want to make beastmen more generic? I don't get it.
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>>61352178
>>61352084
just import tyranids from 40k and be done with it
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>>61352155
Can you please stop this HURR BEASTMEN SHOULD BE DESTRUCTION meme? It’s annoying as fuck and you’ve been proven wrong multiple times as to why it doesn’t work
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>>61352263
Different guy here but I think moving them to destruction might stop them from being constantly overshadowed by mortals and daemons
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>>61352155
Beastmen have always been chaos. Stop trying to lump them in with your special ed Grand Alliance.
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>>61352322
But then they’d just be overshadowed by Orks, Goblins, and Ogres.
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>>61352322
Why? If GW isn't giving them attention then they're not giving them attention. They'd just be "overshadowed" by Goblins, Orcs and Ogres.
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>>61352329
I personally think destruction needs a human faction of non chaos aligned barbarians, something from a more unique culture than the Chaos Vikings
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>>61352361
AoS has muscle barbarians covered enough.
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>>61352351
You're probably correct, is a massive shame really
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>>61352329

Skaven on the other hand haven’t really ever been chaos so they could be put to destruction. They’d provide a nice technological contrast to the other desteuction races.
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>>61352351

Unironically order aligned beastmen would probably work the best.
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>>61352361
I would suggest some kind of shaman tribal people, but Bonesplitterz already cover that niche.

>>61352416
Skaven don't fit thematically though. They want to rule the Mortal Realms, not destroy shit.
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>>61352002
Yep, all made up save for shell and some tentacles(spawn kit)
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>>61352416
skaven literally eat warpstone
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>>61352416
>Skaven on the other hand haven’t really ever been chaos

Yes they were. They were introduced as Chaos Ratmen. They had daemons and mutation. They even ate raw Chaos.
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>>61352451
How?
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Destruction could be such a cool Grand Alliance but more really needs to be done with it
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>>61352492
it needs Skaven and Beastmen
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>>61352502
stop
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Do you think it's some furry degenerate who keeps trying to change Skaven and Beastmen to be less Chaosy and disgusting?
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>>61352242
Aren't Ogres the same as tyranids. Like they eat everything they find and stuff. Just asking, don't know much about 40k lore
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>>61352476

>Were
All the races use some form of magic so using warpstone hardly makes skaven chaos.
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>>61352484

Order doesn’t yet have a brutish uncivilized faction like all the other grand alliances. Also reformed beastmen provide an interesting storypoint.
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>>61352588
is there any other race though that is specifically making cocaine out of chaos? warpstone is a quintessential part of skavendom
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>>61352536
Yeah, Tyranids do it so they can reproduce.
Orgors do it because they are big fat fucks
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>>61352617
>uncivilized
Why should they? That goes against the whole Order theme doesn't it? Sylvaneth come close.
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I agree that destruction needs something new. I don't think skaven or beastmen are the answer though. Beastmen have always been portrayed as serving the dark gods and skaven would fit order before they would fit destruction; I mean they are literally an empire with hierarchy, structure, all the things used to make the same argument for order's other not-so-good guys. I think skaven and beastmen are fine in Chaos.

So, what COULD destruction get? Like >>61352178 said, they've made new order, death and chaos armies; what could you guys see as a plausible destruction force that's something new? I could see a beasts army, like literal wild animals. Or sentient magic like endless spells or elementals.
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>>61352690
i'd piss myself over a destruction army that's like conflux from heroes of might and magic 3
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>>61352492
I swear to god if we get new factions and updates and a load faggot playtester waac twats start pretending to be destruction players I'll fucking stab em in the urty bits for real
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>>61352690
Stone golems would be interesting, although I would rather Dispossessed get them.
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>>61352716
Lol
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>>61352690
Algoraxi possessed mechanoids, from the Firestorm book, but resurrected by the necroquake or something, but not controlled by nagash, they just wreck shit.
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>>61352690
If there weren't 2 elven factions already, I would suggest destruction elves. In fact, I would have included idoneth into destruction, like some new created elves that hated their creator (Teclis)
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So I was going to post this when I was done but I'm half way and I've gotten into a system so I think I'm fine to talk about it.

I've decided to experiment using magnetic tape and magnets in order to transport my minis. I decided to make the switch to this solution after I suffer a number of snapped parts on minis using a traditional case.

For this solution I ordered 100 rare earth magnets with a 0.2kg pull and some 30cm wide 5mm thick magnetic tape. Applying the tape to a box is easy using a box cutting knife to cut the tape down to size and then sticking it to the box.

I discovered that the magnet alone wasn't strong enough (or maybe close enough) to grip the box. As a work around I'm using old copper coins (1p and 2p coins from England). I superglue the magnet to the coin and then the no magnet side to the base. You do have to cut out the little pinning wholes from the bases but this is easy with detail cutters. You do have to watch out for the uneven surface as it can make the attachment a little unstable. For any heavy minis (My general on mount for example) I simply attach more magnets until it holds. For 32mm base minis I use a penny. For anything large I use a 2p coin. The reasoning being that a 2p coin plus a magnet is slightly taller than the base which makes the mini wobble slightly.

I've got another 30 minis to finish before my 2000 point army is done. I'll post the results of my maiden voyage when that happens. All in all this solution cost me around 25 pound (half the price of a medium GW case).

I'm happy to answer any question if you have them.
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>>61352719
Same poster, but what if Dispossesed were given stone golems as units and the fluff behind it is that to keep Nagash from taking their souls upon death, the souls of respected Duardin are put into stone forms to allow them to escape the grasp of Nagash. They could be called Living Ancestors or something and offer Dispossessed a form of monstrous infantry.
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>>61352775
I did this too but with slightly stronger magnets and I put them in an ammo can (I just spread them on the sides and heavier models at the bottom)

works perfectly
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>>61352794

Would they be closer to golems or statues? I can imagine that if gw does that they’ll use the KO aesthetic for them. Have you played dominions?
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>>61352690
The argument for order is literally
Literally
>Not slaves to the dark gods
>Not undead
>Not sucking nagash's bones
>Not rampaging maniacs who only think of food or war

How in the fuck is this complicated to people
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>>61352820
An ammo can sounds like a great idea. Would that be the sort of thing you purchase at an army surplus store?
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>>61352824
Either something like this or something more live a moving statue.

>Have you played dominions?
No
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>>61352847

Then beastmen could become an order army, assuming they give up on worshipping chaos.
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>>61352872
I ordered it online, but you can definitely find them in military surplus stores
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>>61352890

There is a faction in dominions where humans inhabit caverns and worship the previous inhabitants. The interesting bit is that since there are only a few of the original inhabitants left they animate statues of them or summon the undead.
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>>61352912
thanks for the tip, I might upgrade to a ammo can, my current transportation comes in two parts and have no lid so I'd be screwed transporting in the rain (part of the trip to my FLGS is on foot)
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>>61351766
The face looks a bit like Pepe fucked E.T., but the idea is inspired.
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>>61352890

I am siding with statues as then they could be made more dwarflike in nature. Maybe have statues made from different materials be different ranked warriors? Brass statues are quite common and cheap but something like arcane obsodian statues are stronger and tougher.
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>>61352890
Like wraiths from 40k for Eldar then? That's actually a pretty cool idea, except that would be ANOTHER FUCKING ORDER FACTION
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>>61352948
The only thing I can add to this, ammo cans are a bit rough when they close because they're designed to be blast resistant, so the handle clips on with a lot of force which even with strong magnets can send the minis inside flying when closing. You have to gently close them. Otherwise, it's really ideal for transporting minis, even if you drop it they won't budge.
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>>61353015
Thanks for the heads up. I'll have a look into it but it could be the next step for me.
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>>61352974
Well this pic and Horticulus was main inspiration. Good shot anon. Also Pepe face was unintencional....meme magic I guess.
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>>61352536
They essentially roll around the universe consuming all biological matter they can find. When they encounter organisms with useful traits they incorporate those traits into themselves.
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I was painting and listening to a video about lore points and shit, and I had a weird hunch out of nowhere that I could totally see GW pushing a new line of Stormcast but slate them as "rebel faction" , "gone rogue" or "fallen angel" sort of things, all as a new way of doing more of the same bullshit and actually stooping to making a box set where it's good stormcast vs somewhat bad/slightly maligned stormcast.


i know there's been theories and speculation that they might toy around with making a go-between faction that could be played with various rulesets.
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>>61353388
Imagine the shitstorm if they announced a stormcast vs stormcast box. Everybody already loses their shit over stormcast being in every box but this would legitimately be hilarious.
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>>61351940
My post-swamp rock band is called The Jabberslythe Experience
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>>61353388
Chaos Stormcast will never be a thing. Death Stormcast, maaaaybe, but even then, it took special bindings and the focus of Nagash himself to keep him bound.

Keep in mind, Sigmar puts chunks of himself into each Stormcast; its like saying a custodes might fall to Chaos.
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>>61352894
>Then beastmen could become an order army, assuming they give up on worshipping chaos.
>The army of literal creatures made out of chaos and who thoughts, bodies, and souls is the direct product of chaos
>Giving up Chaos

Pls Mcfuckingkillyourself
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>>61353388
I have no doubt it will happen. We will eventually get Chaos-cast perpetuals that are totally not!chaos spehss muhreens.
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>>61353429
You know, for being the laughing stock of Chaos, who are shat on and laughed at by literally every chaos faction, and aren't allowed into any chaos allegiance or even given a mark by the gods, they sure do have a lot of loyalty.
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>>61352690
As has been told a million times: Ice Faeries. Accept it!
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>>61351557
Would this list be too OP for a newbies tournament?

Leaders: Lord Arcanun on Gryph Charger.

Battleline.

10x sequitors with maces and 4 greatmaces (sequitor prime could add one to the cap, right?)

5x sequitors as above but 2 GM.

Others:

5x evocators

Artillery.

2 celestar ballistae.


1k points on the dot.
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>>61353525
NOT IN MY SUPER SERIOUS WARGAME!
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>>61351557
Soon
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Just came back from my slave at Subway, surprisingly I have a mystery box from my gf.
Guys what am I in for?
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>>61353552
Thats a good list, the Lord on Gryph is a bit naff desu to, I'd drop him and take a 100 point hero and the knight Incator instead
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>>61353594
What are you implying, faeries can be super serious
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>>61353622
Your new chastity belt!
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>>61353622
Chaos bad dragon and stormcast-gold chastity cage?
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>>61353622
>this faggot works at subway and has a gf
>I'm an auditor at PWC and have never had one
>but he's the one always shitting the thread up with complaints
You mongs don't value what you have
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>>61352820
I might have to try this. Are ammo cans still a good option for horde armies?

t. someone who has never gone into a surplus store before
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>>61353699
>>61353699
>>61353686
I'm scare bros
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>>61353733
Hey don't say that, check out those sweet dubs you got you whiny bitch ass faggot
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>>61353674
Well i need him for battleline.
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>>61353768
Oh yeah, have you got the on foot lord?
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>>61353756
>he's never seen the whining of the subway faggot
Your new is palpable
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>>61353784
i taste salt
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>>61353685
Nah, Free People.
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>>61353747
Whats in the box? Also this is a bad /v/ meme
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fuggggggg
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>>61353820
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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>>61353874
>top jew GW doesn't even give small pot of undercoat so I can't do anything.
damn, guess I will have to pick one up, unless I can use Celestra Grey but I doubt it.
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>>61353552
Ballistae are quite hit or miss unit. Depending on the RNG they can inflict some nice damage but they can also turn out to be rather underwhelming.

You have only one hero. I'd consider this a serious drawback as some scenarios require heroes to score on the objectives. Also, another potential point to draw and trigger the command abilities from. You also lock yourself from more interesting combos such as teleporting Gavriel and Evocators behind the enemy line, likely catching the new guys heroes or some other high valued target. Tyrion's sight, I had a humble Relictor being a humble MVP with shock immunity and inflicting mortal wounds.

No Pendulum, Cogs or Geminds.

I think the list is fine and something you'd see at new guys and girls event.

I am not a competitive player tho
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>>61353874
>easy to build
That is scary.
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>>61353955
Do you have autism? I have the same model sitting right in front of me right now and I have zero gaps, I've check all over and the worst I have is a hairline between a paw and leg, if you've created that from the kit you're the one that sucked, not the kit.
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>>61352531
Prolly.
Skaven are cool as crazy, literally genetically pure evil ratmen.
Same goes for Beastmen, whose mere existance is such an abomination on creation that all they can do is despoil and corrupt the world around them to be as fucked up as chaos itself.

Making them Destruction is boring as shit.
Skaven don’t destroy, they undermine, corrupt and build their own shitty society on top of what they ruined.
And making Beastmen generic „hurr durr angry animal dude that hates civilization“ is lame, the fact that they‘re fucked up chaos perverted humans is what makes them terrifying as shit.
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>>61354028
I tried it both with the pegs, and without. The fucker has gaps noticeable nearly everywhere the parts meeet.
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>>61354062
Mine for comparison (excuse the awful lighting)
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Do fetish fags even have armies or are they just here to post loli feet fetish porn?
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>>61354102
I can make out the ones in the back feet.
You use some plastic glue?
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>>61353733
> PWC
PFFFFFTTTTT BBBIITTCCCHHH
KPMG 4 LIFE NIIIIGGGGGAAAA
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>>61354147
No way you can. If anything its the front feet with slight gaps. I did use plastic glue, and I file down all seem areas when I put the parts together. I also go over any seems on open areas with a mold line remover. Sorry, I've been overly aggressive attacking you, but this is a really simple and excellent kit and you blaming it and not yourself has pissed me off.
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>>61354125
Do prudefags even have armies or are they just here to post whiny commentary?
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>>61354198
Do 4chanposter even have armies or are they just here to post whiny commentary?
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>>61354211
I have an army and am working on my second
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>>61353469
You do know that chaos warriors in their varied types (blood warriors, blightkings etc.) are the equivalent, right?
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>>61354125
Yes, I have posted my stormbros before. Also the "do you even have an army" argument is cancer of the terminal stage.
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>>61354198
Yes, would you like to see it?
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Starter brush is so fucking small I am not sure if I need details one anymore
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>>61354256
It really isn't. If my paintjobs get criticized harshly, I want to know that the person the criticism came from is able to do better.

>I don't believe that this is your army, post a timestamp right now, in the dead of night
THAT is terminal cancer.
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>>61354276
Trust me, you will want something smaller eventually. But I wouldn't recommend Citadel brushes for that.
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>>61354193
It is not though. Never before with monopose figures, even the old AoS starter ones, did I have this problem.
Certainly not with multipart kits.
And that extends to non GW companies. I'm only bringing this up because of how shocking it was on the ghasts and now my $40 model.
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>>61354211
I'm working on my first AoS army ever, and the Frostlord on Stonehorn is taking me forever because I'm a slow painter and not that good. For some reason this model is taking me for goddamn ever even though I didn't feel this slow when painting 2000 points of AdMech I'll post soon, I swear.
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>>61354309
Yes, it's cancer of the worst kind. A person's opinion is not devalued or in any way affected by not having an army. It's only relevant to the discussion in one case, when people are talking about painting.
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>>61354364
Yeah, okay. Though I would make a second exception, namely when people go "REEE GW RUINED WHFB FOR THIS SHIT" because half of them never had an army in the first place
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>>61354352
Well I dont know what to say then because I put it together and it was a dream
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>>61354400
If anything GW made WHFB better by freeing it from their shackles and progressive writings.
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>>61354256
Sweet highlights on the parchment
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I really like the Firebelly but obviously his rules are shite. Do you reckon I'd get away with putting him on a large base with a cauldron and playing him as a Butcher?
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>>61354535
No.
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>>61354233
That's the joke...
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>>61354364
>A person's opinion is not devalued or in any way affected by not having an arm
I'd say it is, because that means they have 0 investment in the hobby itself. If you have models you're working on, then there's less chance you're a pisskicker who's just here to shitpost.
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>>61354535
I'd be cool with it, but I'm not typical gamer level autistic.
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>>61354535
Sure. Why not
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>>61354470
>someone went out of his way to recolour the original because brown elfs trigger him too much
Top butthurt
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>>61354602
>whines about "progressive writing"
>doesn't like chocolate aelves

Adds up to me.
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>>61352519
You're right, it needs Fyreslayers and Daughters of Khaine
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>>61354573
Looks good, except for the base. The Agrellan Earth cracked too far and you can see the grey underneath shining through.

>>61354535
But his rules aren't bad? For his points, he's fucking fantastic.

>>61354566
Remember, even pisskicker has models.
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>>61354665
Well in comparison to a Butcher who's only 20 points more and can do a fuck load more (especially with a cauldron).
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>>61354566
Not at all. You may have models and come here solely to shitpost, or you may have no models but have a serious interest in the game.
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>>61354665
Still WIP. Have hardly touched the bones as well; only one layer of ushabti. But thanks my dude.
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>>61353733
Well, you traded the ability to pass on your genes and enjoy close company for ability to thrive economically, not a bad move if you don't mind being lonely.
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>>61354683
But that's more a factor of GW's retarded "super-powerful upgrade that comes with its own model but costs the same points" policy. See also Phoenix versus Anointed on Phoenix.

The baseline Butcher is basically the same as a Firebelly minus the flame breath.
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>>61354709
> PWC auditor making good money
Hahahaha. Maybe as a manager. Associates are worked like slaves for next to fucking nothing.
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>>61352690
If they weren't tied down in limbo with Forgeworld Fimir would be by far the ideal choice. I just want muh Irish rape lizards.
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>>61354709
>>61354734
I didn't want to discuss this shit, I just wanted to express annoyance with the subway cunt.
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>>61354725
Even then its spells are better and it has that self healing (plus does more melee damage).
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>>61354742
I don't know why they're Destruction when Fimir bear the yoke of Chaos.
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So guys I've been wondering how the hell do mortals stand up against chaos daemons?
How do freeguild peasants and swordsmen fight bloodletters? A single bloodletter is taller than any man and radiates an aura of boiling blood. They are so strong they can easily tear a man apart with their bare hands. And they have blades that cut through metal like butter.
Or have them face an ever-changing tzeentch sorcerer. Or a bloodthirster of all things.
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>>61354791
Tbh it does make sense given their lore in the old world was that they're former servants of chaos who were abandoned by their masters. In WHFB they were basically desperately praying to them to no answer, hypothetically if they made a battletome for them (which they won't but just hypothetically), it would definitely make sense for Gorkamorka to go "Hey you seem cool wanna join my band?"
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>>61354602
I don't even know what the original is.
All I know is I'd mix my genetic material with an elf of any color to sire offspring and my folders are too much of a mess for me to search without wasting my life.
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>>61354801
Lots of losses. Also, a spear phalanx is a great deterrent to mindless monsters that just run at people and try to slash them up.
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>>61354767
Shut up junior associate.
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With the Chronomantic Cogs, does speed up time give both players additional moves and charges or just the users?
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>>61354640
>aelves
Get on with the times
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Guess what I'm working on /aosg/.
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>>61355035
I'm a senior associate. Now fuck off.
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I fucking HATE GHOSTS
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>>61355071
Both
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>>61355073
>Implying the article's author hasn't already been fired
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>>61355185
Well fuck why would I use it then?
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>>61353603
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>>61355175
why
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>>61355228
Because you're playing an army that does better in combat than your opponent? Because you cast it, then get to move before your opponent can benifit from it? Because your opponent deployed something stupidly and that turn 1 charge will change the course of the game. To grab a clutch objective that's just a little too far... The list goes on.

Conversely, you can use the slow down time mode also and gain an additional spell and reroll saves for your wiztard.
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>>61355088
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>>61355228
Because some armies profit more from it than others. Let's imagine you play Nurgle. For you, Chronomatic Cucks are a 50% speed boost (4"+2"). For, say, a Slaanesh Chariot army, that same boost is only 12.5% (16"+2"). So the slower your army, the better the boost.
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Would you use a custom-made model for your army?
Would you pick a post that makes their ass look great?
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>>61355175
is that the AoS realm of battle? it looks dope
especially how it matches the terrain

>>61355393
Boner why
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>>61355175
Why though.
I thought Grots didnt even have rend on their attacks?
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/09/9th-aug-a-real-life-solar-enginegw-homepage-post-2fw-homepage-post-4/
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>>61355474
>they write "c'tan" as "s'tan"
>they didn't like people calling them "kittens" and became less subtle to enforce edginess by saying "satan"
Now I remember why I don't like 40k again
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>>61355544
How do I achieve this body type natty?
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Good scheme so far?
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>>61355544
They're still called C'tan. It's just a wordplay on the dude being talked about being a Necron player called Stan. Stop getting your panties in a twist over nothing at all.
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>>61355768
work out every day in gym.
That means you must be rich because normal people are at work and have no time for gym
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hey anons, I'm a 40k player considering getting into AOS. I like the look of the new starter sets but not sure where to begin; what has the most bang for my buck?

are the playstyles of zeusmarines and ghosty bois dramatically different? do i have to stick to ghosts or can i include vampirs and skeletons and shit in an AOS army?
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>>61355897
Soul wars, 95 money, gets you the starting point for two armies and the rulebook. If you play spooky boys you can play them as just ghost for ghost bonus or you can take Grand Alliance death and pick all the spooky boys but lose the ghost bonuses
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>>61354602

Das rite. Everybody knows that the real elves are BLACK and that ulthuan used to be completely BLACK. Sigmar is also a BLACK elf from ulthuan don't believe what these imperial devils tell you.
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>>61355812
>work 10 hours
>drive to gym
>shower
>exercise for 2 hours then shower again
>back home to leep at 11:30
>wake up at 8 am
>eat breakfast of microwaved egg on bread
>brush teeth
>shower
>out in 30 minutes
>work 6 days out of 7
No excuses you lazy fat fuck.
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>>61355897
I'd recommend going for souls wars and maybe split the armies with a friend. Stormcast are, as far as I know the typical 'easy to learn, hard to master' army and tend to be quite forgiving, but ghosts have a few good synergies. Take the nighthaunt and get yourself a box of tormented spirits if you can. That should get you at around 1000 points. I'd get a black coach next, but that's because I love the new model. You can include lady Olynder and a couple of huge battleline units to get you to 2000 points. That value is where nighthaun shines the most, you get a lot of cool combos and you can choose between a wide variety of heroes.

So yeah, ghosts
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>>61355949
Except none of that matters because Ulthuan, the Asur, Druchii, and Asrai haven't existed for millennia. It's like saying Italians are Romans, just daft.
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>>61355175
Glorious battle scene, good work grot-anon

>>61355469
Grot attacks still suck, 60 grots will do about 8 wounds to a bunch of ghosts. I once did 60 moonclan grots attacking some ghosts with gordrakks command ability (basically triples grots attacks) and still only did about 15 wounds.
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>>61356042

Silence wite devil, everybody knows that sigmar is BLACK.
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>>61352178

>GW did a great job when they introduced brand new armies (idoneth and flying dorfs) they shouldn't have problems with a brand new destruction army

They have problems for one simple reason: the Grand Alliance system. Because when they add a new army to a faction, be it Order, Death, Destruction or Chaos, it has to be able to plausibly ally with the other factions within it.

Death isn't too bad on this front, because Nagash rules all undead. Chaos is pretty straightforward too, since you can always fluff Chaos-aligned stuff teaming up. Order has the easiest justification of all, because Order is opposed to Chaos. So you can get factions as wildly opposed as Iodneth and Stormcast teaming up simply because they both fight against Chaos and want to build civilisation.

But Destruction has a problem. Their theme is that they want to destroy, but the existing factions are pretty fiercely opposed to fighting alongside anyone who isn't a member of their own race. Ogors and Orruks sort of work because both respect strength, but neither of them would fight alongside puny humans or elves, no matter how bestial they were. Likewise, Skaven or Beastmen certainly fit the theme of tearing down civilisation, but their Chaos background rules them out from joining the other destruction factions.

GW could certainly expand upon existing lines, like Grots and Gargants, to improve the Destruction options. But a whole new army? That's a tough thing to incorporate in.
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>>61356081
Easy solution, expand all the current grot and orruk factions, instantly have loads of good factions that can sort of ally.
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>>61356071
But Ghosts only have a very average 4+ save, and a mildly annoying 6+++ after that. So if you're having trouble with that, you cant really blame the ghosts, can you? Its not ghosts fault for grots being grots.
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>>61351673
>Wowsers in my golden trousers
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>>61356026
i'm not fat.
I do not own car though.
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>>61356133
Totally agree, our damage sucks. GW squatted our damage command ability.
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>>61356081

I think the only thing they did not manage well enough is the Order Alliance. Idoneth, Fyreslayers and daughters of Khaine...I dont know, I don't consider them Order. I was talking to my local shop manager the other day and he told me GW should think about adding a new faction. Like mercenaries. I don't know if you play Malifaux but there are 7 factions, one of which is the outcasts, who are kinda like mercenaries. I don't know if that could work, but there are certain pieces that don't fix in the Order faction
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>>61352155
Keep your hands off my tzaangors, BITCH.
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On this day the men of the Empire would fight back against the corrupted daemons of Tzeentch. And while unprepared for the dark magics of their foe they would steel themselves and hold to their courage and faith in their own steel to fight the foe. 1k game against broken magic spam unpainted bullshit. And my first game where i actually had the majority of my shit painted. Play any fun games anons? And is there any hope that GW will make a unified Empire battletome for my dumb humie boys?
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>>61356081
>order has factions like DoK or Deepkin who routinely murder other order peoples and wear their skin like fancy hats

>can't do this in destruction the faction which revolves around infighting and brute strength

you're a nibber

they can put anything into destruction with the tagline of "lol they fight each other but sometimes XYZ will follow a strong leader of <NEW ARMY>"
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>>61356364
>And is there any hope that GW will make a unified Empire battletome for my dumb humie boys?
No
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>>61356081
Easy you add idk those elves that fuck lions or some shit that the one guy always goes on about. Right a story about how they met Gordakk and he was like "You're puny" and they actually put up a good fight against them so he said "Alright you're cool."
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>>61356364
>square bases

you deserve to be destroyed by BATTLETOME TZEENTCH ARCANITES
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>>61356364
In the beginning of AoS I thought they were going to treat Empire/Stormcast kinda like they do in 40k with Guard/Space Marines. Guess I was wrong
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>>61356364
>square bases
>begging for battletome

you know that GW's website doesn't have square bases anymore

what are you going to do if any empire gets rebased on to rounds?

why not switch over now to round bases to save yourself the hassle later?
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>>61356410
guard haven't gotten new sculpts since 2002

so in a way empire is getting the same treatment
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>>61356429
I was talking about the fluff and stuff.

>we need to defend that planet
send the guard

>we REALLY need to defend that planet
send the space marines

Kinda like that
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>>61356364
>broken magic spam
Keep crying
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>>61356364
>Empire
Anon, I. . . .
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>>61356415
It does.
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>>61356499
I checked, they really don't have any square bases anymore.
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So I'm thinking of starting Swifthawk Agents, but I hear that they can't do much damage. What should I bring in to counter this? I'm thinking a Dragonlord, but I'm unsure about it being too much of a big target.
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>>61356516
lol what the fuck
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>>61356415
Are you trying to imply AoS is somehow worth the time and effort to rebase anything?
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>>61356553

I mean if you enjoy the game and don't want to cheat then yeah its worth the time.

unless you're doing what the 2.0 rules claims you HAVE to do and measure from your square bases as if they were on rounds?
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>>61356516
Literally every single one of the freeguild on the website has a square base lol
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>>61356429
>since 2002
False
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>>61356081
>both respect strength
>neither of them would fight alongside puny
then just make the new faction strong (as in, each of their individuals is strong), or have them ally with gobbos
trolls ought to work fine, just give them a bit more options. although they would compete with beastclaw for the monster faction niche
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>>61351557
What’s best artifact/weapon to give a Spoilpox Scrivener? Even realm artifacts, but only from Ghur since that’s where I have said my army is from.
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>>61356259
order should really be named "anti-Chaos who also don't suck nagash's bone and like to have pretty, petty trinkets around"
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>>61356685
something something don't wanna hang around with snotlings
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>>61356364
Dont listen to the fags, anon.
You and your army are awesome, and your painting progress is one of the fastest I've seen on this board.
Let the haters hate, you do you my man.
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>>61353928
JewW, would have been better.
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>>61353928
gw doesn't sell brush on primer
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>>61357100
They do, it's just shit.
Could be just me though, every pot I've brought is hard, dry, and rocky.
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>>61357131
imp primer isn't listed on my country's gw and when I asked my store's manager he said they discontinued it

they haven't been stocked in actual years

because it dries out really quick
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>>61356845
>literally obsolete bases which GW doesn't sell separately anymore

>shit base coating with no shading

yeah he's a real paragon of the hobby
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>>61357156
>>61357131
It's a shame, really, because Imperial Primer is actually damn fine if it's fresh.
But even the Getting Started magazine now tells people that if the weather is too bad to use Chaos Black spray, they can just paint on thinned-down Abaddon Black instead. Not even a word about Imperial Primer.
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>>61357199
You're a real faggot, anon.
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>>61357210
squatted like square bases
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>>61355812
Hmmmm thats weird because I work out every day and am not even salaried.
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>>61357199
Why the need to be an asshole bro.
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>>61357607
It's the only way potatoes will ever learn.
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>>61353388
If anything it will be Knights Excelsior vs another host maybe.
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>>61357210
it still comes bundled with the easy to build space marine packs
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>>61357639
Celestial Vindicators are the guys who fall into deep battle rages and kill everything.
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>>61357627
>mummy that man plays a different army then me make him stop!
Honestly one of the worst memes this thread has going. In no way is Freepeoples any less fantasy then Stormcast or any other race offered in AoS. Guess what a lot of new people are coming into the hobby with interest in the older model lines thanks to the boom in good lisenced Warhammer media, why flame them for that.
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>>61357751
put them on rounds
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>>61357763
Why though?
Cant he be allowed to play both Fantasy and AoS?
Why is liking/playing both systems such a crime?
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>>61357763
But then you can't use them for Mordheim, Pikeman's lament, Fantasy, Vanguard, and other games.
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>>61356026
> shower before gym
Jesus what are you gay. Oh noes if I smell at the gym the pretty bois wont grab my ass!!!1! Gays were are mistake
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>>61353422
>Keep in mind, Sigmar puts chunks of himself into each Stormcast; its like saying a custodes might fall to Chaos.
its interesting that even thouhg they have lightning and sigmarine running through their veins they are still affected by chaos. so far it's canon that SCEs can be turned into chaos spawn, can be mutated into nurgle servants and their souls can be trapped in their bodies
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>>61355095
Shut up associate.
Middle management is taking, I'll call you when I have bullshit I dont want to do.
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>>61357919
>getting the equipment dirty
You gross POS.
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>>61357763
Its not even my army dumb dumb, I play an old army (swift hawk with some wanderers) and I have them on rounds but I don't think other people should be forced to. Its the gayest shit to complain about.
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>>61357944
Oh I'm sorry I didnt realize curves or its gay Male equivalent didnt have multiple wet wipe and water stations spread throughout so you can clean the benches once your done. Maybe crossfit or something even gayer is for you. Go kip or something
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>>61357888
mordheim has no facing and can be played with round bases and has been for many years
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>>61357888
>Pikeman's lament, Fantasy, Vanguard, and other games.

nobody plays any of those though
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>>61356415
>>61356397
>>61356376
I do Fantasy and AoS. There is a reason for the square bases. That and I'm running as of now a majority State Troop force for both (still waiting to buy some Empire Knights and some more Demigryphs) and seeing how my Death friend has suffered trying to move loads of skeletons movement trays will be a help.
>>61356845
Thanks anon.
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>>61358013
And I post an old photo doi
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>>61358058
>he doesn't have round-movement trays
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>>61358054
>Fantasy
Rude.
>Vanguard
Still in beta phase.
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>>61358072
This doesn't work if you have models that go on 20mm bases.
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>>61358079
yeah nobody gives a shit about mantic outside of mantic's head office
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>>61358097
nothing in aos is on a 20mm base
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>>61357937
Where? Proofs? Because we know that the physical body can be corrupted, but so far not the soul. Even Phaelus had a spark of Azyr in him, when Balthus killed him.
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>>61358112
Nothing in AoS says you have to be based in rounds either.
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>>61358100
Alternative War Games General would like a word.
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>>61358132
>irrelevant shit general
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>>61358126
You don't have to, but you do have to play as if they are.
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>>61358119
All happened in the hallowed knights - plague garden novel. in nurgle's garden the souls didn't emerge from the bodies to fly to azyr. they were trapped inside. it took a lord relictor to set them free
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>>61358190
Yes.
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>>61358054
I do anon. Well Fantasy. Hoping to play some games in AoS and then interact with friends and give me a reason to paint more and then we have a few guys who still play fantasy as well.
>>61358072
I've only ever seen them used once and surprisingly it was yesterday when Phoenix Guard beat down on some Khorne. But I got a shit load of regular trays for free from a friend and nobody seems to mind the square bases because at least the majority of my shit is painted.
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League fag here
1. Fuck Ghosts, Guardian of Souls + Spirit hosts is just unfair
2. Fuck my dice, I got double turned and then could not make one initiive to get my way out of the tar pit
3.Narative battlereport coming sooning
4. FUCK GHOST. GoS + Spirit hosts is just not fair
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>>61358172
Hey guess what? Other games are fun.
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>>61358226
If they were people would play them.
No one plays them.
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>>61358223
But spirit hosts are cute.
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Does AoS have more or less tactical depth than WFB?

I just wonder because people seemed to think that rank and flank was the pinnacle of generalship.
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>>61358245
Do you not have friends?
Also my locals have a bushido and histotical scene so irrelevant. Honestly if you show up to a hobby store with enough models to play whatever and a good attitude you'll eventually find someone to play ANYthing with.
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>>61358254
They are and the dude I was playing against was nice but FUCK THE GUARDIAN OF SOULS, BRING BACK 1-3, 3 WOUND MODELS IS NOT FAIR
Its better than fucking anything in the new book
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>>61358223
How the fuck were spirit hosts giving you problems anon? Its unmodified 6's to hit that give MW
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>>61358206
Also I did finally finish the Demigryphs. Well I might go over with Balthasar Gold for some parts and then ask at my local shop for any more tips on things to do but I can be satisfied with this. And I call them Empire based on the fact I do Fantasy and because my scheme which started Reikland has now morphed into more of Talabheim colors.
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Starting work on my reavers.

Done the base of the skin tones. Gonna end up with a few slightly different skin tones.
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>>61358301
They get 6 attacks a pop and unless I kill the whole unit the gaurdian of souls brings back d3 every turn
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>>61358262
You had to think about more stuff than just moving your amoeba and activating abilities, but that was all squandered with the fucking magic phase and steadfast horde formations.
Fuck 8th, it was terrible.
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>>61358316
Its really shitty 6 attacks, and that Guardian of Souls can only bring back models for one squad, and only has a 4+/6+++ to protect itself. Why didn't you just kill it?
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>>61358349
From what I've seen so far it wasn't that bad anon. I played a 1k Empire vs Beastmen infantry slam fest for my first game which was pretty fun. Greatsword flank charge managed to break the whole Beastmen line. It was great.
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>>61358384
Compared to 7th it was a huge step down.
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>>61358296
GoS only heals d6 wounds, so at max they can only bring back 2 on a roll of a 6 since they're 3 wound models. Worst case scenario they don't bring back anything on a roll of a 1-2. Plus it's a spell, so first he needs to get the spell of on a 6, and then you can attempt to unbind it. You do have a wizard, right?
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>>61358372
500 point game
he had a unit of 3 and a unit of 9
he rolled like a god and kept tarpiting me
I rolled like shit and he kept bringing 3 back every turn
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>>61358441
What army did you play?
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>>61358372
>acting like that isn't good when you can bring d3 back every turn and they each have 3 wounds
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>>61358292

>hurr durr my anecdotal experience must be the norm!

Have you ever asked yourself WHY these games haven't taken off as well as others? IF the games were good, they'd be played. Blaming it on anything other than the game itself is super dishonest and makes you sound like a shill.

Fact is, AoS uses round bases. If you want squares, that's cool, but you can't play AoS without having to treat them like they're on rounds anyways, which i highly doubt most square-fags will do.

Go and have fun with your fail-games elsewhere
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>>61358126

they said they prefer rounds, but you can use squares as long as you measure everything you do with that base as if it were on a round base, which precisely zero players will do because they'll feel cheated
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Sooooooo are the people in the Fantasy thread just delusional or what?

It seems like their entire existence is just spite.
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>>61358462
order draconis, a noble, 2 units of knights and a repeater crossbow
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Sweet, the report feature now lets you select which rule is broken.
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>>61358577
Can I get some examples? I'd like a good laugh.
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>>61358577
>go check out /wfg/
>talking about zoats and shit
>no one took the stormcast bait
????
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>>61358681
Oh is he just trying to get us to go fight with them again?
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>>61358581
Oof. And the Repeater got killed?
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>>61358698
they dive bombed it by making a 9inch charge after teliporting in
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>>61358400
They bring back d3 models a turn, not just the wounds
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>>61358907
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New army idea.
Destruction - The Sylvan Realm
Very expensive models, lots of fucky abilities.
Example, pixie swarm - several models to a 30mm base, melee of 1/5+/6+/-/1 but enemy models inflict wounds upon them must roll a die. On a 4+ they have inflicted the wound on their own unit instead.
Or Gnome felyne riders that cause battleshock before combat starts (at +3) because they're unnerving.
Destruction so they can use goblins, a classic type of fairy that is applied differently in warhammer.
And a hero, Sylvan Hag. See when one of the fair folk marries another the woman loses her powers, but if she doesn't marry at all she turns into an ugly crone. So they get around this by kidnapping humans and forcibly marrying them.
The crone has the power to make the enemy re-roll successful dice. All of them.
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>>61359161
Comand trait
>Ruler of the Spirit Hosts: At start of hero phase, return d3 models to a friendly SUMMONABLE NIGHTHAUNT models within 9" of the general. Use on Hexwraiths or Spirit Hosts for maximum wound-return efficiency.
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>>61359198
But are they DTF humans and not nessisarily murder them?
If not put them in order
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>>61351620
Hopefully Slaanesh will be coming all winter.
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>>61354665
>ben was replying to me in that post
>it was two years ago
Where has the time gone
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Bros Im converting this guy into a vampire lord....but I need to give him fangs.

How? Help...pretty sure the answer is greenstuff but damn its tiny
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>>61354640
he's probably just a stormcast player
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>at a crossroad
>all my elves are painted, litterally my 5+ year collection of high elves is over weather I want it to be or not
>don't know where to go now, can't pick a new army till Tyrion comes out
>Wonder if they will be alliable with my old HE and order draconis
>release won't be until after the new slaanesh and probably gobbos for sure

Will we still be valiant? Will our light pull us out of Smegmar's Shadow? Will our hats still be pointy?
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>>61359470
You'll be juicy elven sluts.
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>>61359529
>that feel when even though I got hope, you are probably right
>tfw my elves will be memed into shit with co-ed units (I really prefer being able to do all male or all female)
>tfw we will no doubt be in Sigmars shadow
Feels bad man, but I gotta dream. Elves can be valiant. They were once. Lets hope that doesn't go out of style
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3BCocQzZPM
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>>61359390
Make fangs that fit inside and behind the mouth and teeth. After that, use greenstuff to fill the gaps on the outside.
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>>61359470
Moonclan is next month, Anon.
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>>61351940
Good unit, undercosted and punishes the opponent for killing them
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>>61359470
I'm not really sure what you are asking.
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>>61359566
They were the keepers of the world once.
They failed and it was destroyed so no more chances.
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>>61359773
They did it for serveral thousands of years
It wasn't even thier job to do it. They just had to pick up the slack cuz lizard cucks (the ones who's job it WAS to pretend chaos).

They deserve better than what they got
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>>61358632
I am just pissed 'avatar posting faggot' isnt an option.
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>>61359907
The issue is they had too much, got too much good stuff, and it led to an unhealthy game. No one besides elffags wants a return to 'elves armies stomp fucking everyone with one or two exceptions'. WHFB death proved they dont buy enough to support a game
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>>61359907
You still failed, no more ripping off Menilbone, and put on the cat ears.
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>>61359982
I am not asking for them to be OP crunch. I just want noble heros who aren't spacemarines

>WHFB death proved they dont buy enough to support a game
>elffags killed whfb
>not a terrible price model that kept beginers out
Do you have brain problems? Like the "you didn't buy enough whfb and you killed whfb" reteric is poor, but then you made it even more stupid
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Here's two dinos just doing their best
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>>61358515
*snap*
Yep....
>>61360146
Wait what croxagores (or whatever they're called) still look like that?
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Anyone know if shadow warriors have been reboxed?
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>>61360300
The only thing wrong with Kroxigors is the fact that they're resin, the sculpts themselves are really good.
Saurus on the other hand are in dire need of new models
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>>61360359
No
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>>61360386
I don't know about that, they look really cartoony, which isn't a bad thing its just out of style with the modern art style.
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>>61360433
Wepl that sucks. I wanna pick them up just to paint really but if I can't lie to myself that I might use them some day in a battle I don't think I can pull the trigger.
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>>61360041
>reteric
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>>61360041
>Do you have brain problems?
>reteric
People in stone houses shouldn't throw glass, or whatever.
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>>61360486

I wish they were a much cheaper kit, I love the sculpt and used pieced mealed a bunch of torso and leg bits for a set of handgunners to make them not look like they are a bunch of balding guys in long johns. Gave them a bit of a desert-y look.
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>>61360771
how sad it is that you even have that image
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>>61360882
See the problem is, as a swifthawk player, they are one of 2 infantry units you acess too, are not as good as Spireguard, cost more, but look better. Just weird.
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>>61360941

Yep

Tonight I played against someone with Order Draconis and I'm legit am surprised how viable they are with a allied in wizard is, the claws, fangs and fire breath just ripping shit up.

Surprised GW hasn't thrown them in the trash just to be petty.
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>>61361105
The bizzare thing is all of the old high elf factions are weirdly viable, maybe through just sheer laziness from GW, I wonder if they're ever actually going to do anything with them.
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>>61360771
normally I would be on your side, but "reteric"? there's no excusing that one
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>>61361184
It's only phoenixes, wizards and dragons that are viable, really.
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>>61361490
I saw Phoenix Guard kick some ass too. Don't they get some crazy 4+ ward save?
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So what are you guys working on? Just finished my Icon bearer.
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>>61362122
i cant post my shit here because of crossposting
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>>61362149
Ben?
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>>61362196
Ben.
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How’s this for a starting grand host list?

Allegiance: Death
Mortal Realm: Shyish
Vampire Lord (140)
Necromancer (110)
40 x Skeleton Warriors (280)
- Ancient Spears
15 x Grave Guard (240)
- Great Wight Blades
2 x Morghast Harbingers (220)
- Spirit Halberds

Total: 990 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 20
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 77
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>>61362196
lol no but coincidentally i am a khorne player
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