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Discuss Vanguard, Weiss, Buddyfight, and other Bushiroad card games.
Best set of the game edition
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iscal Year 2018 sales
(April 1, 2018 - September 2018)

>1. YGO - 12.13 billion yen
>2. DM - 12.09 billion yen
>3. Pokemon - 4.01 billion yen
>4. Weiss - 3.07 billion yen
>5. Vanguard - 2.7 billion yen
>6. Battle Spirits - 2.09 billion yen
>7. Buddyfight - 1.93 billion yen
>8. MTG - 1.58 billion yen
>9. WIXOSS - 770 million yen
>10. Z/X - 680 million yen
we should make a pastebin to dump these
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Reminder Kourin is a miracle of the universe.
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>>62899953
We really should get a general pastebin going
>>62900012
Second best miracle of the universe
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>>62899872
But are other Japanese TCGs (except YGO because /dng/) allowed here?

>>62900012
Based

>>62900090
Cringe.
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>>62900253
The only other one to discuss that would carry discussion are FoW so maybe?
Then again FoW manages to dominate discussions
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>>62900090
https://pastebin.com/QxKQRhrQ
it's a start
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>>62900365
Needs some links to play online.
Cardfight Area:
http://cardfight.ru/cf-area
Buddyfight Area:
http://cardfight.ru/buddyfighten
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>>62900360
>FoW manages to dominate discussions
Nice meme, but hopefully there are some who play here as well.
Right now I'm just waiting to see if Reckoning of Vashr boxes will resupply before pulling a trigger on buying them off TCGPlayer.

Otherwise it's hard for me to get into Vanguard or Buddyfight, although I really want to. The gameplay mechanics just seem linear to me, although I hope that's not really the case.
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FUT
BOL
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>>62900491
why was EB01 so based?
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>>62900541
I liked it was only three clans. Made buying boxes feel more rewarding since from just three I got a mostly done SB and MC deck. Compared to other sets with four or more it's rare to get near done decks without buying four or more boxes. Also being an EB it's cheaper per box.
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>>62900409
While Vanguard's heavily linear, Buddyfight games vary a decent amount once one/both players get their main cards out
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>>62900665
I'll have to convince some people at this shop to play Buddyfight then, one guy says the OTKs are worse than YGO, although I read on here that they're mitigating that and it's been improving.
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>>62900707
I don’t get how any games OTK can get worse than YGO. YGO is the most degenerate out there with fairly consistent FTK even.
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>>62900404
any better now?
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>>62900707
Defensive options and control have creeped a significant amount in the past few months
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>>62900783
What would be a good deck to show that off?
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>>62900800
Godpunks are a pure control deck designed around resource manipulation.
Linkdragon Order has ways to gain absurd amounts of life
Electrodeity has a bunch of defensive cards and decent amounts of disruption
Also, all three are meta right now
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>>62898988
I'm sure it's still a good game, but it kinda lost its luster for me since they basically gutted Eldora and removed her focus on life cloth manipulation.
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>>62900862
Cool, I' assuming some lists are on Bushi's page for it? What current boosters support any of those?
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>>62900780
Yeah that's looking way better now.

>>62900927
Godpunks is in S-BT01 Gargantua Awakened
Linkdragon Order is in Gargantua Awakened and S-BT02 Dimension Destroyer
Electrodeity is in Dimension Destroyer and S-UB-02 Miracle Fighters ~Miko & Mel~
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>>62898988
>WIXOSS
I'm watching that anime right now and I have no idea what the fuck they're doing. It seems like Duelist Kingdom Yu-Gi-Oh to me.
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>>62901170
You can actually look up videos of the producers going through each of the games. They're abiding by the rules of the game, they just don't show it.
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>>62901003
Interesting. I'm assuming that buying boxes might be better than singles if the secondary market is as fucked as I think it is?
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>>62900491
>my troops
FOT
BAL
IS
WAR
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Only recently taken interest in Buddyfight. Godpunks and the recent Bladedancers catch my attention. Only issue is no one in my area that plays and seems the secondary market is a bit pricey for some things. Would lean more toward making Blademasters since they're new and the price is low, but other support cards to make the deck work better are more than I'd care to pay at the moment.
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>>62901337
It really depends, but buying singles or looking around on trade groups is the best option since boxes tend to vanish in short amounts of time
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>>62895416
Like Bushiroad would do something that nice for NN back then. They really enjoyed ass fucking that clan in particular. Up until stride their G1 and G2 line up was literally still cards from their second set of support and like 2 promos. The amount of shits they gave for the clan was hilariously disgusting. There was no progression at all,just stagnation,probably because they took much of the inspiration for the clan and put it into Gold Paladins.
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>>62900012
>converted some anons to the Kourin & GP brotherhood
>Kourinbros starts using my stitch

My mission here is done.
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>>62901652
But can you convert your biggest opposition?
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>>62901575
Golds, Naru, and Genesis pretty much only exist because of how much support was dumped on Royals, Shadows, OTT, and Kagero pre-LB and how much just those clans took over the game.

It worked in english though since we got sets out of order so the meta was pretty diverse with Golds taking a lot of seats. Even clans lower down the ladder showed up in events. Post Set 5 and suddenly it's what Japan had been seeing forever; RP, Kagero, SP, and some OTT and nothing else.
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>>62900012
>idolb8
>isn't a mermaid
What's the point?
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>>62901685
I'll leave that job to the artists. A couple more fanarts of Kourin in that cute outfit and you'll fold. I'll be sure to post them here once they are made.
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>>62901803
We have the same power source
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>>62901652
Hey you
Get S2ed
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>>62901837
True, and that sweater on her doesn't look bad...

I have to admit, you make yourself a worthy rival.
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>>62901739
The point is she’s better than a mermaid.
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>>62901927
>25-38 more weeks of this argument
These are going to be some fast threads
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Destiny Calls full version when? I’ve already listened to the TV size 500 times.
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>>62901739
Not all wifes come from water anon,even if theyvmake you wet
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>>62902020
That's agreeable.

>>62901936
Ok, now that's just wrong.
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>>62900744
>Be YGO
>have multiple top 10 FTK/equivalents lists
>talk about other games having powercreep,or deck being unsupported
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What about Misaki x Kourin? With how big a yurifag Misaki's va is I'm surprised they haven't gone that route with her.
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>>62902160
They become best friends in the manga while fighting over Aichi's dick
They have an interesting relationship
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>>62902160
Because one of them has to be thrown at Aichi so we don't get Aichi gay with Kai yet again.
In addition to if Misaki is going to be gay with anyone, it's with Asaka.
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I don't want to be a MTGfaggot, recommend me something nice bros, nice and not overly complicated.
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>>62902275
Vanguard. Thematically gets my attention to this day and Standard right now is pretty basic since clans are just starting up.
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>>62902312
How is FoW? Art panders to my fetishes. Pic related
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>>62902330
Pretty much is MtG with some spins like mana being in its own deck. I've never really played it since it never caught my attention and like Buddyfight there's just no one playing where I'm at.

Though I agree, it's got some fine art.
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>>62902330
Did FoW ever get more consistent art? Because while some of it was good, my god.
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>>62902487
Meant for >>62902352
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>>62902487
The card frames and formatting themselves changing a lot threw me off as well. Sometimes seeing a new card I thought it was for an entirely different game.
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>>62902160
There's already some yuribait stuff in the ED. I'm sure it will dip into the actual show.
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>>62902571
idk bro. I'm seeing one girl holding a phallic object while another looks like she really wants it
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MUEAKUMO GOOD
META DESTROYED
WAIFUFAGS BTFO
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>>62902606
>the hot dog is a metaphor for Aichi's dick
>Misaki is much closer to him than Kourin is, almost close enough to win the Aichibowl
>Kourin longs for Aichi's dick too but she's far behind in the Aichibowl

It all makes sense now
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>>62902711
How did Itou and the director get away with this
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>>62899872
>bushiroad
LMAO
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>>62902487
It has it's fair share of variety.

>>62902330
FoW is getting better now, they're balancing shit out for once from what I hear, and the only stuff that's still OP Green is from the previous blocks.
The hardest part is finding a group to play with.
You could try introducing it at an LGS.
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>>62902916
Isn't FoW like almost dead? How is it still going?
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>>62902965
It isn't, it's surviving and has a small boost of interest, which is good because it exited the shitty "Green does fucking everything" era with disgusting synergistic counterspells.
You could say it survived out of sheer Force of Will ;^)
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Hopefully ED4 will show them all at the beach in swimsuits. Whatever it will be it has to be another waifu ED to match 2 gay EDs.
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Anyone going this weekend?
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>>62902992
It would have to top G Next's beach ED and that one was great
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Heard you were talking shit about Gears.

COTD:

Steam mechanic Nabu
G2/ POWER: 10000/ GUARD: 5000
[Auto](R): When attacking a VG, By
[Cost]{Bind 1 card from drop zone},
during this battle your opponent
cannot call G1 and above from hand.
At the end of the battle, send this unit
into soul, draw 1.
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Why is ARG tournaments so shit?
>let's do a championship in 30 different states
>let's not give a fuck about them when it happens

I just want to know the results, it's not that hard.
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>>62903131
Beautiful in all sense of the word
What does the flavor text say? Weeps
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>>62903131
Finally a clan I'm going to build with some guard restrict in it.
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>>62903175
Because why bother putting effort in when there's little to no competition for this sort of thing?
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What cards should I pick up for Premium Gears with the new cards? I'm assuming my ZTB deck won't mesh well with these cards because they're not ZTBs right?
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>>62903131
Great Art
Great Effect
Only a Rare
Excellent
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>>62903018
going to hell, sure
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>just found out italy got a load of sick playmats including this dindrane one
>can't find it for sale anywhere on the internet

This is truly suffering.
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>>62903373
As a gears user
I believe I'll just be building standard Gears + G zone
May include Melem + Ur Water and maybe some time leap techs for the sweet plussing

On the G zone itself we are sorta limited whatever doesn't require Chronojet or a ZTB + Dust
Various of the interdimensional dragon and possibly Chronofang G units , still waiting for the rest of the reveals to make a choice
G Guards I'll just replace Heteroround with bearclock
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>>62903679
Didn't they just get into Legion era?
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>>62903778
>legion era
Atleast theyre at the midpoint of consecutive shit metas
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>>62903679
Aren't vanguard playmats shitty because they're 19" x 11" instead of 24" x 13-1/2"?
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>>62903778
Man I wonder how Italian players feel having to wait so long for the reboot
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>>62903778
HAH. Not even close. They're about to get into the sweet, sweet taste of death by LOCK! They have a long and arduous road ahead of them. It will take another few years before they find salvation.
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>>62904737

*Deletes your post* Nothing personnel CBD
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>>62904737
Man I'm so glad Kai isn't going full edge this time around. Ibuki is a better substitute.
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>>62902708
BASED

*TELEPORTS BEHIND YOU AND STOPS YOU FROM STANDING*
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>>62903284
I mean sure, but why do they do it in the 1st place then?
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>>62902708
Thank you.

Sincerely, a waifufag.
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>>62905256
Still get money out of it, since there is a market.
However, they basically own that market tourney wise afaik now, so why improve when you can just sit there and still get money.
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>>62901170
See
>>62901210
The official website had walk through each week of the games, which were played how they would be in a real one. It's not as much a card game anime as a mystery/drama/SOL about demonic possessed cards though. The mangas are great too.
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>>62899872
I got the free Demo-Kit of Vanguard that they were giving away a while back on AnimeNewsNetwork. Had 2 half-decks with neat alt.art promo cards. Still kept it wrapped with the congrats letter, because it makes me feel like a winner.
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>>62906686
If only she were a trap, fugggg
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>>62899953
Battle Spirits outsold Buddyfight? I thought all of t the furry porn the anime inspired would give Buddyfight helluva a lot more exposure
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>>62903131
>G2
I dont get it
Its just card that binds shit from drop
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>>62900253
I dont really see a reson not to
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>>62908073
Maybe it can be put in the OP next thread or something, I'll probably do it if the usual (I think) anon doesn't make a new thread when this one dies.
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More shpport when?
It already eats protect,imagine with proper support
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>>62907897
Battle spirits has been around longer and is a lot more fun to play.
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>>62908186
Big if garga
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>>62908186
How can one designer be so based...
Real shame that it flopped over here, no doubt because of people just being deeply invested in one game. Maybe the western release had it's own problems too, not sure.
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>>62908202
It flopped because the first 9 sets are absolute unfun garbage, it was buoyed in Japan by an above average anime.

>>62908196
I can use my wife Renamon, best game confirmed
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What's buddyfight?
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>>62908467
One of the card games Bushiroad makes.
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>>62900597
I hope they do a better job woth the next minibooster so whe can go back to that
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>>62902991
>You could say it survived out of sheer Force of Will
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>>62903798
B-breakride was fun
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>>62902867
By making it air late night
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>>62899953
Where do these numbers come from?
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I wish VG had a free online sim with automation so I didn't have to interact with people.
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>>62909603
It sucks that Bushi C&D'd VanguardPro only to get fucked over with Cardfight Online
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>>62909603
We will buy upgrade when we buy enough autism points
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>>62909603
You can always play with yourself and simulate and opponents deck
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>>62903373
>>62903770
>G4
IDD Mystery Flare 2
IDD Idealize 2
>G3
IDDK Lost legend 4
Gun Guild Dragon 1
>G2
Lost break Dragon 4
Gun bezel Dragon 2
Steam mechanic Nabu 4
>G1
Wedgemove Dragon 4
Promptly Worker 4
Retro Axe Dragon 3
Steam scara Kalain 3
>G0
Heal 4
Crit 8
Draw PG 4
Starter 1
>G-Guard 4
Bearclock
Ilisu 2
Time maiden of eternity, Uluru
>Strides
Metapulsar Mystery freeze Dragon
Metapulsar Huang Long
Metapulsar Altered Dragon
Chronovisor Heritage
IDD warp Drive 4
IDD Bind Time 2
IDD Chronoscomand Dragon
IDD Chronoscomand Revolution 2

This is what I've been thinking for both premium and standard, I might consider some bind zone techs for premium after some testing and of course only based on current reveals.

The G zone is a little clunky but GC has a limited number of generic strides, tried to keep heritage but you can no longer turbo it second stride without luck. Considered Chronotiger but it's too much set up .
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Witch of Snakes, Melissa
AUTO RC When placed from hand, COST:SB3 if you do, your opponent looks at the top cards of their deck equal to the rearguards they have, calls them to occupied RCs, and shuffles their deck. The units called this way cannot activate their effects.
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>>62910982
wait thats sick
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>>62910982
That's cool. Kinda reminds me of Shadow Paladin's witches disruption effects. Was planning to make Bermuda for my Force deck but Genesis looks pretty interesting.
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>>62910982
>7K grade 1
>Does nothing
Checks out
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>>62911414
>does nothing
>can possibly remove opponent's triggers from his deck
>can possibly kill grade 2s that can't be targeted
>can possibly remove intercepters
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>Lost Legend is the OR of the set for GC
>No new art

SAD!
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>>62911549
>RNG skill
Yep,its nothing
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>>62911611
Ruin everything?
Gotta be GC
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Your mama can ask me for my autograph
That cougars a MILF, she's the oldest trick in the book
But I sure would fall for that!
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How expensive is CFV compared to other card games? I've heard the reboot is a lot cheaper than the initial releases
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>>62912210
>How expensive is CFV compared to other card games?
Standard:150-200$ for T1 decks
Premiun:for the most part,Double of standard
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>>62912242
That's actually not that bad considering YGO is currently $300 for 3 of one staple card
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Reminder that NN will fall off harder than tachikaze
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>>62910982
Woah that’s cool. So basically it’s a permanent skill nullification. I like it. If you don’t want vanillas you have to get rid of them. But at the same time if they are valuable units then you’re fucked because they’re useless and set you back.
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>>62904737
how are the price of card that have long time value there?
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>>62911611
Good. Having an OR be a new unit and a staple on top of that would have made Gears the most expensive clan.
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>>62912516
WHAT
ABOUT
BRING
A
UNIT
BACK
MR TIME TRAVILING CLAN
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>>62912400
Whats the thinking behind this? Not being hostile just curious as my friend is getting NN out of our EB3 split and seems to think it will be the best deck for a long time, whereas Im thinking it will fall off when true season 2 support kicks off.
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>>62912575
Because the tachikaze hype died off after people lerned how to play vs their mechanic
the same might/will happen to NN
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>instead of being a ride chain for consistency,we get shitty RC G3s
Why not have ride chains anon?
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hello this is waifu card
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>>62912590
How would you suggest playing against NN? I thought just trying to rush them down would be a good idea but Im finding it harder to do that in practice.
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>>62912613
draw triggers and G2s
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>>62912610
Fuck off, furry.
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>>62912654
sperg more
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>>62912599
>Ride chains
>For consistency
Dumpest post so far Carlos

Ride chains are retarded and
an inconsistent mess , at least RG G3s make strong RGs and backup VGs
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>>62912613
Play Angel Feather. NN don't do much other than sustaining by calling free cards and swinging for big numbers. They don't really have skills that can break through perfect guards/protect markers, so Protect clans can just starve them out eventually.

If you're playing Accel, your goal is always to rush but Accel clans sucks in general so you're just fucked. Don't play Accel.

If you're playing Force and want to play the long game, go for Kagero that feeds off NN's calling and can pierce through their defense after 2-3 Waterfalls plays. If you want to rush/out-tempo them, play Spike Bros and hope you go first so that your Seifried play really puts them back.

NN is really good. It's definitely one of the better Force clans. Your friend is not wrong, it's going to be good for a little while. Especially if Bushiroad continues to kick Accel clans in the nuts.
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>>62912751
>ride G1
>get G2
>ride G2
>get G3
>ride G3
>get power
There,fixed TDs.
Just give the regular starter on the booster
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>>62913378
>Give search power on ride to 3 units so my experiment works
No
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>>62913399
*2
they wont see play because they just ride consistency,they vanilla other than that
With how good are the cards we get,it only means TDs get smoother to play to teach people the game
as they should
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>Force clans Get Vreak ride,15K G3s
How fucked is accel?
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More legacy support when?
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*Ruins your game*
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Persona Blast was a mistake
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>>62913667
>Artemis with a godly equip on her makes her a 18k vanguard on defense
Can't wait to play Gold Paladin against Genesis. Epic battle, thanks bushiroad! :^)
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>>62915690
>Artemis with a godly equip on her makes her a 18k vanguard on defense
no she doesnt
VGs dont get the gauge thing
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>>62915746
Oh, she doesn't? I read somewhere she could. Would make sense, though. Still a shit matchup.
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Novas being bad is a meme
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>>62916123
Not as big a meme as the Novas themselves though
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>>62916123
Their only selling point is being better than aqf
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How much is a Shadow Paladin deck gonna cost me?
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>>62917109
Ballpark $200
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>>62917315
Fug
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>>62917015
they do what theyre supposed to do
that's more than a lot of clans
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>>62917342
Half of that is in 4x copies of Phantom Blaster Dragon.
Really, $200 for an incredibly hyped up t1 deck in a TCG is incredibly cheap
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QypgXQwi42A
Did bushi stop making these?
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>>62917386
I know, but I'm currently trying to escape a bigger beast.
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>>62917408
They stopped making them around 2016 it seems.
They were a cool idea but also around $40-$60 and you could probably save money just buying the included stuff individually
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>>62917015
(You)
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>>62917109
$100 for PBD
$60 for the other main booster stuff
$15-20 for the Trial Deck

So you’re looking at $175-180 which is incredibly good for a top tier deck and well below what good decks used to cost. Pretty sure Shadows upon their first release cost 2x as much and they were total overhyped garbage.
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>>62917660
Nice, any specific list?
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>>62917840
Unironically I'd get a list with rapier and dagger, they're currently only like £2 each but I feel they will definitely be needed for Gust blaster dragon when he comes around.
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>>62911549
>can possibly
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>>62917015
They're way worse than AqF kek.
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>>62917888
So you're saying Gust Blaster is gonna suck?
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>Current Decks

>Novas
>Murakumo
>Megacolony

>Also getting Golds in EB3

Being an Accel fag is suffering.
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>>62918034
Aqf cant push 6 attacks on first G3
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>>62918135
Yes it can? It also commits way less cards to board to do so, hits numbers easier and has a consistent early game.

Let me have a puff of what you're smoking.
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>>62918283
> It also commits way less cards to board to do so,
No it doesnt
>, hits numbers easier
Again,it doesnt
>and has a consistent early game.
3 cards combos arent consistent
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post em
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>>62917342
That is fucking cheap compared to other TCGs desu. Super cheap.
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>>62918560
*gets a defensive trigger at your 1st attack*
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>>62918785
*still takes 3 damage and lose a rear*
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>>62918411
>>62918560
>>62918825
You shouldn't lie to make your objectively shitty clan seem okay.
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>>62912821
>NN don't do much other than sustaining by calling free cards and swinging for big numbers
>They don't really have skills that can break through perfect guards/protect markers, so Protect clans can just starve them out eventually.

It's the opposite actually. Their skill for getting past Perfect Guards/protect markers is their big numbers. They outpace the hell out of a Protect deck because they make them hemorrhage cards to guard their consistently big numbers and eventually all that's left is the protect decks Protects or PGs and then they start losing cards every time they want to guard. Meanwhile the NN player has to basically not call anything come their G3 turn unless they brick on Maiden.

And Kagero will run out of resources and get sacked if they try to feed off their calling. Waterfall especially is super easy to stop or even just allow to hit given that the deck needs like 1CB a turn and can conserve a ton of hand for guarding.

IMO the best way to beat NN lies in exactly what Bushiroad is dicking around with in Accel clans. At least 7 attacks 4 of which are 23k or higher.
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>>62919495
>implying
Never said NG wasnt shitty
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>>62919560
>7 attacks 4 of which are 23K or higher
They already do that,they need is draw engines and a rush G1.
Like raiser custom but with the drive
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>>62919495
>says the aqf player
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NIGHT GUARD

Going to bed now so dont let the thread die.

Also so I can wake up to (you)s are Shadows any fun? Im struggling to have fun with my current decks (novas, murakumo, megacolony) and thinking about picking up something new.
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It's time for things to get a little hammy

G3 Hammsuke G3
12000 Accel
Auto V: On place, if you have G2 Hammsuke & G1 Hammsuke in soul, [Discard 2], gain 1 Imaginary Gift Accel, call a G1 Hammsuke & G2 Hammsuke from your deck to RC. Shuffle your deck.
G2 Hammsuke
CONT R: If your VG is G3 Hammsuke, power +3k
CONT R: During the battle it attacked, if you have G1 Hammsuke in your soul, power +5k
G1 Hammsuke
CONT R: If your VG is G3 Hammsuke, power +4k
AUTO R: At your end of turn, [SB1 & put this unit to soul], search your deck for G2 Hammsuke, reveal it, add to hand. Shuffle your deck.
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Garga is life, fellas.
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>>62919560
>They outpace the hell out of a Protect deck because they make them hemorrhage cards to guard their consistently big numbers and eventually all that's left is the protect decks Protects or PGs and then they start losing cards every time they want to guard.

That's why I specified Angel Feather. AF can conserve a lot of cards in hand due to their units being able to plus and can also get more than 1 marker a turn. NN's main problem is the fact that it's just numbers without any threat. They have to rely on hitting a crit trigger for those numbers to matter and if they don't, it's only 1 damage AF can heal off next turn.

Kagero can do well but they have to get their 2nd or 3rd Waterfall before they run out of ressources. Yes, NN can tank 1 Waterfall, but after a 2nd or 3rd one, it becomes hard for them (or anyone really) to block.
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>>62920881
>Also so I can wake up to (you)s are Shadows any fun? Im struggling to have fun with my current decks (novas, murakumo, megacolony) and thinking about picking up something new.

They'll probably be fun to you considering you probably experienced playing with Force the least.
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Damn Premium Gold is actually good especially if they go first and get the Beaumains to superior ride to Ezel.
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>>62922211
Yes, breakthrough the nostalgia brainwashing
Welcome a world of crazy fast combos and unadulterated fun
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>>62922354
>strides
>fun
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>>62899872
You know I never realised that all of these card games are made by the same company.

How come they have been willing to branch out when Wizards of the coast is dead set against anything that directly competes with Magic?
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>>62924754
Because WotC is fucking stupid. If they didn't kill off Duel Masters they'd have even more of the TCG market.
I think they're somewhat involved in the Transformers TCG but no idea by how much.
Takara Tomy also has multiple TCGs, I think they own the DM IP while Japanese WotC works on the cards, I'm not completely sure.
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>>62924754
WOTC is consistently the stupidest mother fuckers around and are never punished for their gross incompetence because no matter what they do, they have such a large market concentration here in the states.
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>>62921063
Its alright
Fun cards
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>>62924754
Because they want more marketshare?
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>>62926449
WotC would have more marketshare if they didn't kill Duel Masters, because then it'd be 2 big games that other TCG companies will delete instead of one.
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>>62926799
Maybe it's because of Takara Tomy's involvement.
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>>62922845
>Strides
>Not fun
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=of6HKLyZaR8
See this is the brainwashing I was talking about
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>>62928539
Man stride chats were the besr
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>>62928842
*chants
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>>62928842
>>62928855
If ibuki doesn't go full chuuni when riding next season
V will be a mistake
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>Create a bad deck building choice
>Make her art irresistible
EVERYTIME
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>>62928539
GB and on stride skills where a mistake
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>>62929394
True
But strides themselves were cool , and G-flips were a nice way of balance
Before GB turned it into a race
GB , Stride skills and non GC stride fodder were a huge mistake
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>>62921728
> AF can conserve a lot of cards in hand due to their units being able to plus

M8 I think you need to actually play the decks you're talking about here. AF has it almost as bad as DI in that they need to constantly play shit to even do anything. And as for Kagero a 3rd waterfall is just highly unlikely to happen and even if it were,NN will blitz the fuck out of Kagero before a good opportunity that isn't sheer desperation before the first can even appear for its full effect.

>>62919809
>They already do that
Vast majority of Accel decks can't even do 6 let alone create 4 23k attacks. And if they are it's more often than not because their opponent was dicking around in the game enough to not only let them get 3 Accel Markers out but also have things to field.
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>>62929790
People who have extensively playetested the deck have noted the ability of AF to keep up its hand size due to all the pluses. Sounds like you're just bad.
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>>62929790
>AF doesnt plus
What in the G?
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>>62929790
>Vast majority of Accel decks can't even do 6 let alone create 4 23k attacks.
Are you retarded?
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>>62929119
based
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So I haven't looked into this game for ages now. I see there's two formats now? Which one's better/more popular? And what are the current top tiers in that format?
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>>62930620
>I see there's two formats now?
yes
>Which one's better/more popular?
Standar,but I believe it will be premiun,the format with the older cards,will overtake it once we get rid of some problemns
>And what are the current top tiers in that format?
OTT,Murakumo,NN,AF,Royals
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>>62930654
and that's okay
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>>62930620
>>62930668
Royals aren't top tier.

Tier 1 - OTT, Murakumo, Shadow Paladin
Tier 2 - Royals, Kagero
Tier 3 - The rest

NN and AF soon to be top tier, probably. Royals just started to top a few events, but it's % tops is way too low for it to be considered top tier.
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>>62921063
>people seething over this being a RRR ride chain
But why
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>>62930865
>Royals just started to top
>week 2 of VBT02 is jsut now
By that logic Murakumo isnt good either
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>>62930898
Murakumo has been topping in Japan since the VBT02 release there (August 30th).
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>>62930945
And royals sinse the week after that
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Reminder that Royal paladin is the communist's clan
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>>62930955
No, not at all. They've seen some tops in team tournaments but I don't count those.

Royals has seen 4 tops (top 4) in big singles tournaments since August 30th. Shadows has seen 8, Murakumo 10 and OTT 13. Maybe they will catch up eventually but as of now, they're too behind to say they're tier 1.
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>Even tho we arent in BR era,the game timings are very similar
Good
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This is jsut not okay
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>breakride Dautless drive boy with this
>43K Restand
>2 restands for 5 cards
it aint that bad and it's still pretty good but damn
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>>62931038
Wrong
We need mid stride era 2.0
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>>62900707
YGO has a 1-card OTK right now.
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>>62931165
nah.
Nothing beat forcing your opponent to re ride because you driven then into a corner and they now have to try to luck out a win
they do your own reride and see their futile struggle to survive
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>>62928539
No, playing against gayze isn't fun and neither is triple drive checks on 26k bodies minimum every turn once people are both at G3.
>muh anime clip
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>>62931239
He's clearly just an animefag,let it go
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Overlord named retrain When?
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>>62931223
Nothing beats locking your opponents full field and seeing their hope be crushed

>>62931239
>Triple Drive on 26k bodies
>Not fun
You just have shit taste mate
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>>62931093
I mean, Royals sucks so whatever. They kinda need it.
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>>62931239
Get over it grandpa
Premium is the future
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>>62931520
>The format that broke the game so bad they needed to make a new format to fix the problems is the future
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Mystery Flare in less than 12 hours. Get ready for tier 1 Gears.
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>>62931239
>Disliking big swings between opponents once both reach G3
Found the megacolony player
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>>62931717
>He thinks G era caused the reboot
Imagine being this dump
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>>62931725
look at this dude
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>>62931725
I AM ready
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>>62931746
it did
They went it overdrive the moment they knew it would all be rebooted,doubleing down on G's overall dumbed down desing.
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>>62931717
>Not realizing the reboot was planned from mid G era
>Thinking G era caused the reboot
LMAO
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>>62931770
Then the reboot caused G era dumpass
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>>62931770
Source

>Inb4 myself
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>>62931792
>G era happens
>franchise goes down
>Plan the reboot
>Powercreep G into an era of unsustainable profit
>reboot
that's what happened
>>62931818
It's called hinsight
Unless you jsut want to think G card desingers and bushi couldnt see the effect that late G era would have in the game,which is valid
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>>62927849
>we don't want more money
Shits retarded, and Maro saying that the resource system killed is a big flat out lie.
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>>62931834
>Yes I am source
All I needed to know
Go on with your delusions
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The real reason for the reboot was Kidani visiting America and looking at how Western games handled set releases and rotation.
They decided to do that to Vanguard and the original plan wasn't a reboot but a brand new 3rd era
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>>62931746
It was definitely a big part. The state of the card game may not have been the biggest factor per se, but the quality of the brand name was affected. For example, look at how V series isn't airing on TV TOKYO in the same timeframe other kid's commercial shows air like YGO, like it did for the last 7 years. Hell the original Vanguard was airing back to back with ZEXAL, and that's the most popular YGO series in japan after DM. That's how much popularity it got. G probably hurt the brand name those stations don't want to partner with Bushi anymore and now they have to air it late at night. Again that's one example. There's definitely multiple reasons.
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>>62931879
that doesnt make what I said any less true,just adds another layer to it
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>>62931879
>They decided to do that to Vanguard and the original plan wasn't a reboot but a brand new 3rd era

I can buy this but I'm sure they decided to make it V series because Itou probably pushed for it and the overwhelming popularity of the original series would make it more comfortable for people to get back into the game despite it being different from how it used to be.
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>>62931891
Maybe
Nevertheless under that hypothesis the anime/marketing caused the reboot (which makes more sense to me) not gameplay like the other Anon tried affirm without any prove whatsoever.
Animes take a shit ton on effort and paperwork, the reboot must have been on some state of development before GZ aired and therefore before the associated packs that bring forth the powercreep were released
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>>62931943
It was probably planned when NEXT started given V series and the latter half of G are both done by OLM. These things definitely aren't last minute and done at least a year to two in advance.
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>>62931943
This. The game prior to the massive change with GZ was actually in a really good place.
Something had to happen outside the game for them to go in the direction the GZ sets did
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>>62931959
Exactly my point
Japan is very meticulous about these things
Not " Oh shit let's reboot this " like some other anons implied
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>>62931989
>>62931981
so literally
>G era happens
>franchise goes down
>Plan the reboot
>Powercreep G into an era of unsustainable profit
>reboot
I guess we can all get to an agreement then
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>>62931981
I wouldn't say GZ was the massive change. Rondeau and BT13 were on about the same level as BT11-12. Star Gate, BT14, and to a much lesser extent Zoo was the end, and BT cemented it.
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>>62932013
Maybe it's also related to why GZ was on the shorter side
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>>62932011
Yes , you argue the return of the original cast during mid G was an experiment of sorts.
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>>62932013
>Rondeau and BT13 were on about the same level as BT11-12.

I have to disagree. They were a real step up from GBT11-12. Zoo didn't do much but then Star Gate and GBT14 took it to another level and like you said BT was just insanity.
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>>62932036
To add on to this it now makes more sense why the director changed from NEXT to GZ because he was working on V series.
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>>62932062
>Do GZ pandering to pander to nostalgiaags
>ruin a season by making all of it's villans jobbers due to it
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>>62932142
>Final season of the G era
>Turn the G main characters into background tools while the OG cast solve everything
Try 3 was robbed
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>>62932142
I was thinking more of their appearance in GIRLS crisis
But yes this was also part of the grand plan
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>>62932190
All the more reason for child Chrono with psyqualia and Loli Luna to hijack V S3
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>>62932231
also notice the dip down tha GZ had in the last part where the More G centric climax happened
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>>62932235
I actually wanted to see more Chrono and Luna interactions.
You'd think the two superpowered people playing into the villain's plans would actually interact more than a few times.
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>>62932190
Nah, they still got plenty of focus. OG cast only had 3-4 episodes total. The real bullshit was advertising Aichi as a major player when he sat on his ass and only had one fight which was a tag fight of all things. G really fucked Aichi over.
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planned or not,THe legend deck really show how the concept of "good in G era" changed over the years
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>>62932267
It also bothered me that Luna was "Chrono but better"
Then the apostles totally ignored her as a possible vessel
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>>62932305
It's obviously planned. That's not really up for debate. Hell Bushi even goes to great lengths to give us a roadmap every 6 months in advance for what to expect. Konami doesn't do shit like that or Wizards from my knowledge.
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>>62932313
They were pretty much even in skill and psychic power.
The apostles only ignored her, Tokoha and Shion because of their stupid "only people that defeated one of the 3 jobber apostles in NEXT are candidates".
Shion fucking sucks and Tokoha got her win right after they got out of the doom satellite
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>>62932316
i meant to say planned to show the changed in power over the G era
But youre probably right,with REN being the First and Aichi the last,and kai in the middle
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Do you guys turn the entire stack, soul and all, when swinging with the vanguard, or do you just move the top card?
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>>62932462
Entire stack, baby.
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>>62932462
I turn all because I get confused if I dont :(
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>>62932483
>>62932482
Good, you guys are right.
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Need some quick advice on Premium Alfred. My G3 lineup is 4 Early, 3 KOK, and 1 OG Gancelot tech for quick BB search. Should I drop 1 KOK and add a 4th stride fodder or keep the G3 lineup and 3 stride fodder? I feel myself getting too many G3 sometimes.
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>>62932231
>G Era was shit
Everyone knows that. Only delusional newfags that started in g Era would say otherwise
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>>62932533
4 stride fodder
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>>62931205
I just hope to convince otherwise. Don't know why they play YGO
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>>62932688
Because that sort of bullshit appeals to some people.
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>>62932688
But the COMBOS Man
THE COMBOS
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>>62931205
>Right now
I fail to remember a format where this wasn't the case
Even let decks can easily OTK you if you aren't careful

>>62932757
That's what premium is for
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>>62932820
>I fail to remember a format where this wasn't the case
2015
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WGP Hakata (Japanese Standard):
1st) NN [8-0]/AF [4-4]/RP
2nd) PM/NN/AF [7-1]

Royals are really the kings of getting carried
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>>62932965
Royal are the ultimate flex pick
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>>62932688
Because it's a fun game, and unless you're going to a YCS you're probably never going to have to deal with the FTK (before something gets banned for it)?
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>>62932965
Royals don't really have any good or bad matchups so they're a decent wild card for the 3rd fighter
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>>62933071
>Literally the filler clan
Lol
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>>62933299
>Iconic cards frequently get callbacks
Dragonic Overlord has so many variations it's not even funny.
>OG
>The End
>Breakride remake
>The Rebirth
>The Great
>The X
>The Ace
>The Legend
>The Destiny
>The Purge
>V series remake
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>>62933533
The Great shows up for one fight in the manga so that's another form on the list
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>>62933581
is it the legion form or just a ''Dragonic overlord the great?''
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>>62933797
It's the legion but it's the only legion in the manga so expect it to be a regular G3 in the game
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>>62932944
>Kozmo format didn't have OTKs ok
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>>62933533
IT GOES DEEPER
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>>62933823
>Legion , Break ride and LB4 purged from the timeline
>Stride being teased
Based
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>>62933823
God thats a shame, I really want legion back
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Post cards that didnt make it
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>>62933864
>reboot follows release order of the original
So? Also OG DO was in BT01 too.
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>>62933940
Primordial Dracokid looks cooler anyway
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>>62934012
>That flavor text
WHERE ARE YOU DRAN YOU PROMISED US
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>>62934058
>time beast
Burning in hell forever, hopefully.
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>>62934091
He'll go back to being blue in the reboot
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>>62933995
>Also OG DO was in BT01 too.
that circles back to the TDs beig out at the same time
Then theres BB exceed having support in BT11(10+1)
The first with Ultime strides having Kagero and the last one having SP and RP
I... just like these things man,sorry
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>>62934091
The Gears of fate are turning and history repeats soon the ZTB shall rule ones more

>>62934112
This
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>>62934157
GET OUT OF HERE CREEPY RUDY
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>>62934307
V tempted to play gears just incase they get main character support in the future.
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>>62934355
I don't know about still having main character treatment
But I can assure they are super fun
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>>62934391
Yeah I played them uptil G set 11 then I left my hometown and stopped going to locals but im back with standard and gears are looking lack luster but very fun and as I dont currently play a force clan they could fill that role.
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>>62933823

As long as it means Kagero won't be "ride Overlord first or lose" I'll be okay with it

>>62934312

But without him who's going to shill for Force of Will like a good masochist does? :^)
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>>62934454
>trade out waterfall
>lose anyway ebcause the clan has no pressure or soul
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>>62934454
>Rudy
>shilling Fow
Didn't he shit on the game?
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>>62934480

I suspect that IFF we do have the Great the Grade 3 line up will probably be a mix of DO, The Great, and still runs Waterfall as a finisher

>>62934485

But he is also invested in the game as well along with FFTCG and even Weiss
>>
WE NEED A NEW THREAD, WE'RE AN ACTUAL COMMUNITY NOW.

>>62934485
Nah he actually really liked it, epecially art wise. He always talks about how he was shocked it died/is dying.

>>62934454
I have 0 interest in Magic but holy shit rudy is such an interesting person. Love him
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>>62934442
Yes, the worst part is their game plan doesn't match G gears so you either follow this guys idea >>62910842
And build standard gears + G zone or assume gears didn't get any support
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>>62934546
PUT THE PASTEBIN IN IT
https://pastebin.com/QxKQRhrQ
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>>62934546
I vividly remember him saying it was bad and to stay away because they kept reprinting the ABUR-tier dual lands and the game is cheap to get into, so there wasn't much money to be made.
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>>62934592
>>62934592
>>62934592
>>62934592
>>62934592
>>62934592
>>62934592
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>>62934112
Nah Dran Z is coolest Dran. Thanks Itou.





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