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See if you can spot Piggy casing the joint Edition

Previous thread: >>62883383

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First for platonic life partners taking on the galaxy together
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Second for Best Girl.
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>>62903457
the way the dumb as hell edgy comics are going I wouldn't be surprised if they killed Evaan off
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Wedge Antilles hops on one transparisteel leg.
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>>62903457
Evaan/Luke when?
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>>62903512
>they've been killing off every cute girl
>rey is a mary sue and possibly a self insert that the writers can stroke their own egos with
>all the competition for Rey is getting killed off
>we're just left with Rose who the director said was kind of intentionally frumpy
>insecure and immature women have been known to keep an unattractive woman around and in the friend group so they look better by comparison
It's a conspiracy. The writers are killing the attractive women and keeping Rose around because they're upset about their own lives and are living through Rey.
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>>62903586
I'm not going to jinx one very special thicc maiden by posting her. If you know who I'm talking about you'll stay mum as well.
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>>62903557
I'm just imagining Evaan's face when she realizes marrying Luke makes Leia her sister in law and its some hilarious shit.
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>>62903586
>who the director said was kind of intentionally frumpy
Because he based her on all the chubby, dumpy nerd girls he crushed on in high school but could never work up the nerve to talk to.
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>>62903557
>the two founding member of the "leia feels like my sister but I still want her to be my wife, is that weird?" club
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>>62903543
Go home Fel, you’re drunk.
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>>62903658
Maybe I will, and fuck your sister when I do!
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>>62903374
Hey, it's me, Cardanon.

I kinda abandoned this thread for a while due to the nonstop movieposting and bickering.

Did that stop, or are we still in hell?

Can we talk about X-wing without getting drowned out by arguing about movies that no one cares about?
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>>62903756
If no one cares about the movies then how is anything drowned out by arguing about them?
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>>62903756
>Did that stop, or are we still in hell?
Both. It stops and restarts on a whim, and pointless arguments over other things happen too with anons carrying grudges on to later threads.
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>>62903374
This background reminds me of that Echoes game, the stealth-action game with the clone enemies of the player character. That game seriously would benefit from a no-enemies exploration mode.
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>>62903756
it's been relatively peaceful the past few threads.
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>>62903816
Here's hoping it stays that way.

So, what point costs are you guys thinking will happen for First Order?

My friend made an over-under.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Gi81jRnfbeJbGA0Dqs7cp6gVZscvxcxnlWSMrDNekV4/viewform?edit_requested=true

Honestly, with no major tournaments until March for the central US, I'm kinda just waiting for the FO to release and January for point adjustments and announcements of what's going to be in the Hyperspace format.

My guess is that Hyperspace is going to be Movie Ships:The Format with the last couple of waves tacked on.
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>>62903756
Hell will continue to the end of time, on and off forever.

For a question to all the 2.0 friends: what is the best resource to quickly get myself up to speed on how the game works. All the nitty gritty on timing changes and shit.
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Were there any noteworthy Imperial military actions between the Reconquest of the Rim and the Galactic Civil War? Trying to flesh out the backstory for an Imperial NPC.
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>>62904429
Most certainly, there's a fuckton of minor planets he could've brutally invaded with a massively superior force.
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>Minister of Sith Intelligence and Barsen'thor get married
>both factions see it as a security risk
>both factions trail them with spies and stuff
>they're just getting tea at a cafe
>like 6 secret agents are watching them
If you've seen The Lives of Others I imagine it would kinda be like that.
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>>62904429
Not really, but there were fucktons of small engagements, and certain fleets and even individual ships saw disproportionately large amounts of the available action, so a captain too young for the clone wars could still have seen plenty of brushfire action, and probably a lot of it as a lone ship or small task force rather than the big fleet engagements of the clone wars and early postwar campaigns
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>>62904429
Mostly from new canon
>Saw's renewed insurgency on Onderon
>More insurgencies started by Saw
>The Lasat Rebellion that turned into the Lasat Genocide just kidding lol, there's an entire secret planet of them where the imperials will never find them.
>Imperial subjugation of Mon Cala
>Enlsavement of Kashyyk
>Cham Syndulla's second insurgency. Took down at least a star destroyer once.
>Probably some hostile takeovers when the Empire tried to nationalize defense and manufacturing industries, and some rebelled
>That one mining planet that Vader visited that had a revolt
No big military campaigns after the Reconquest of the Rim till the GCW. The Empire was geared towards occupation duty, with a big navy that could squash anything that got int its way till the Battle of Endor. Sheev conquered the galaxy too well to leave any military power comparable to the Imperial navy.
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By the time of the Praxeum, was it public knowledge that Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader? I seem to recall Luke mentioning Vader being his father a few times, at least once in Jedi Academy (the vidya), but I don't know if it really expanded beyond the Jedi at the time.
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>>62905227
No. Luke's Jedi knew, Leia knew, Han knew, Mon mothma did, but nobody else
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>>62904429
There were a lot of localized minor wars, particularly in the first 5 years or so after the Clone Wars, but most actions after that tend to be attempts to stop wars before they begin (like a political thriller really) before the Rebellion itself is formed.
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>>62904988
>No big military campaigns after the Reconquest of the Rim till the GCW.
Except this is contradicted by Catalyst which talks about the Reconquest Rim campaign. Not only that but the Rebels books talks about Hurst's campaigns
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>>62905227
Really really depends on your source.
At various times in the EU, it wavered between the galaxy knowing Vader was Anakin Skywalker, father of Luke and Leia, wife of Padme, former Jedi Knight and slave from Tatooine, to not even knowing who Darth Vader is. New canon takes just about the worst permutation imaginable by having only a marginal amount of people aware of Vader's existence yet everybody knows that Leia was his daughter circa 20-25 ABY and this is bad because reasons. Not to dis on everything from new canon, but almost invariably, the further away from the OT you get in that direction, the worse the content.
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>>62905376
>wife of Padme
HUSBAND of Padme I meant to say, let's try not to get distracted by anything too lewd here.
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So how do ship generators work in Star Wars anyhow, is it just a mishmash of everything possible?

And if so, can I have a ship powered by what is essentially a diesel generator? inb4 that guy spergs out about the steamship in dark empire again
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>>62905376
>New canon takes just about the worst permutation imaginable by having only a marginal amount of people aware of Vader's existence

He's public enough that some people write songs about him in the years leading up to the OT (per Heir to the Jedi, Luke's fridged love interest's mother wrote a popular song about "Vader's Many Cybernetic Parts").

> yet everybody knows that Leia was his daughter circa 20-25 ABY and this is bad because reasons


But not everyone knows that Leia was his daughter in 20-25 ABY. It was first publicly revealed in Bloodline. It's bad because A) it's fucking Darth Vader, the boogeyman of the Empire, and B) she knew and kept it secret.
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>>62905419
something something nuclear reactor
something something annihilates 1000s of tons of hyperdense hypermatter fuel per second
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>>62905419
they generally run on some sort of fuel, sometimes it is combustible, larger ships sometimes use matter-hypermatter, sometimes nuclear power
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>>62905449
>People writing songs about Vader
>Skywalker-Vader connection revealed 20-25 ABY
>Nobody canonizes Weird Al or "The Saga Begins"
ONE JOB
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>>62905449
>Vader's Many Cybernetic Parts
haha benis :DDDD
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>>62905376
Vader's existence to the public is known, he is paraded as the Emperor's enforcer, but nobody knows what he really is. Some monster made in a lab? A clone? A droid? Are there more sealed in a vault?
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>>62905545
It was official that Vader was a Jedi who stayed loyal during the coup attempt but was severely wounded defending the defenseless emperor in the process
But then again, that sounds just as unlikely as your theories if you didn't know OOC it was mostly true
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>>62904402
There aren't super many timing changes. I'd read the coreset and go with that.
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>>62903374
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Let's say you're an independant freighter captain flying around the spacelanes, what tunes do you put on?

Whenever I see a wannabe Corellian, I like to blast this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1tFQMjc-IE
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>>62905760
This one rock band from Fresia. They're gonna be the next big thing, just you wait.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN3yqMr3ffY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q6chUtSef4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xPIdta_uXI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZv9feBUAeI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_bO2uPJLLY
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>>62905760
I would gladly force my crew to share my appreciation for mariachi music
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>>62905760
https://youtu.be/hHOrpFeXUao
https://youtu.be/fyMLWWO37Go
https://youtu.be/cAyoUxd1pfg
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>>62905275
>>62905376
Thanks. Need to know for my post-RotJ campaign in case my players bring it up.
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>>62905940
It's completely confirmed as late as 19ABY there was no public knowledge of vader's actual identity in legends
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>>62905515
>tfw you can’t hear American Pie without hearing Weird Al
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>>62905968
That varies by source, anon.
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>>62905990
That's as may be, but even if they knew, the rest of the imps didn't by 9
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>>62905760
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88HJnar9e8w
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>>62903457
"And cinnabuns here is my black manservant!"
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What do you anons think, New Jedi Order based out of the Praxeum on Yavin IV, or the old Jedi Temple on Coruscant?

On the one hand, I think the NJO's headquarters being on Yavin IV is important because it represents their aversion to making the same mistakes as their predecessors; in particular, becoming too entangled in the bureaucracy of the (New) Republic. The Praxeum also has more of a spiritual and naturalistic aesthetic going for it, which I think also doubly shows the NJO attempting to connect with the Force through the flora and fauna prevalent on the moon. Plus, it's great for training regarding dangerous environments and creatures, as well as meditation.

On the other hand, the Jedi Temple on Coruscant is pretty neat, and although the NJO should avoid involving itself in the New Republic government, it is also important for them to have a good ear on happenings in the galaxy. Although that can easily be solved by just having some Jedi present to represent the order.
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>>62907421
The Jedi base of operations should be on Tython, Ossus, Yavin or other worlds with more significance to the Jedi. They should have a large enough Jedi Embassy on Coruscant to be able to make a defense against an attack, but not having the Jedi base of operations fall along with the planet, should it fall.
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>>62905419
IT'S FUCKING STUPID OKAY THERE'S A REASON IT WAS NEVER TOUCHED AGAIN IN 20+ YEARS OF EU
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>>62903586

After the media got themselves into a frothing frenzy over Marie Tran quitting Instagram there's zero chance Rose is getting killed off at any point. Hell she could solo half the galaxy and the Vong for good measure, no way they'd let her die.
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>>62904429
MIMBAN FOREVER
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>>62907421
I think they really do need that disconnect between church and state so to speak, the reason the Jedi got wiped out is simply going too close to society and getting that sense of being personally involved in the crude matter that is mundane affairs. Which has always gone across their modus of being peacekeepers, spiritualists and space monks- if you're a peacekeeper then you're also in the awkward position of being completely neutral in the matters of state, but also being the guys who are sponsored by a state sanction and thus will be made to side with whoever is keeping the lights on in the temple.
At least if they're going solo off in the wilderness and choose to intervene in some matter, at least post-republic, end of the empire era and into the new republic they really need to be self sufficient and not beholden to any particular single entity.

Sure it might mean you're having to do all the cooking and cleaning, maybe you're not sponsored with fancy resources and limited to the amount of people you feasibly support. It'd also limit you to the amount of "good works" to be done in the galaxy but lets face it. They're kind of ok soldiers, but really fucking awful generals!
So for what its worth, my votes for mystical monks on a mountain top, rather than the catholic church in the middle of space Rome
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>>62908175
Incidentally things went pretty badly for them again in LotF + FotJ when they're back to being a branch of government.
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>>62905760
Spurdoing in space :DDD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8-loNYn44A
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Post 1 wish/hope you have for TCW "Season" 7

As we're clearly not getting Dark Disciple as part of the episodes (which I am thankful for), If one of the arcs in the 12 episodes is the Bounty Hunter one with Boba Fett and Cad Bane, I hope Ventress makes a Cameo Appearance in it
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Last thread, an anon was looking for advice on buying into Armada.

You still need help?
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>>62909486
Different anon here, id like to hear how to buy in to armada too.
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>>62909587
The short version is pick a faction, buy the core set as cheap as you can find it, and then spend another $100-$150 on ships that you like and a box or two of squadrons.

I can be more specific if there's a faction or collection of ships you're specifically interested in.
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>>62909774
Empire and ISD's interest me most.
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>>62909407
Thrawn cameo?
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>>62909407
Crystal Crysis, Bad Batch and Siege of Mandalore is what I've heard. We see one of the Bad Batch in the command room so it's more or less confirmed.
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>>62909407
Padawan Caleb Dume being a whiney shitbag.
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>>62910036
>Crysis
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>>62910047
Fyck you
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>>62910060
Fick you too buddy.
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>>62905760
Psychedelic Rock as a holdover from his young hooligan days.
Our team Jawa has also occasionally hijacked comms to play ethnic music. We're still not entirely sure what that would sound like. I personally wanted "nasheeds by alvin and the chipmunks" personally.
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>>62910197
>I personally wanted "nasheeds by alvin and the chipmunks"
You are correct.
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>>62909838
>>62909774
>>62909587
>>62909486
Am I faggot for just wanting a Star Destroyer to put on my desk?
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>>62910373
Not in my books.
t: i bought pic related just to get that SD.
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>>62910373
Fuck no, they look awesome. Especially the Chimera one. Ended up getting one for the missus as a present. Loves it, and the little Gauntlet fighters too.
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>>62909838
Alright, then Core set, ISD or Chimaera, Gladiator, one Gozanti, and a box of Squadrons 2 will get you pretty good framework for an ISD-centric list. Totals $120 MSRP, after the core set.
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>>62905376
>worst permutation imaginable by having only a marginal amount of people aware of Vader's existence yet everybody knows that Leia was his daughter
How the fuck could the public know this information? You think people in Star Wars go to wookipedia?
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>>62910294
Our next session is (assuming disaster doesn't strike) rescuing one of their clan members from slavery so I'll be sure to bring up the topic of sand people spirituals.
It's also mildly concerning how many npcs we've sheltered onto our party bus in just a couple months of game, we've managed to amass like seven droids, and if all goes well the bare minimum we're bringing back on top of that is three loth-kittens, the jawa, and a dianoga that can fit in a water cooler.
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>>62910689
I see, how much were the core sets again?
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>>62910713
Is your ship called "The Flying Zoo" by any chance?
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>>62910373
I've played Armada like twice but I got the Chimaera and Interdictor just for display.
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>>62910737
"loth-cat sanctuary" is one of our potential future enterprises, so it's not far off.
I feel it's half "our party isn't really combat oriented at all so the PC urge to kill ALL the things is replaced with an urge to collect ALL the things", half one of our pcs having to physically suppress the urge to feel up any new droid he comes across, and half that two out of four character hooks is about slavery, and liberating everybody we can as part of team tech support is just a recurring point.
We also had an eighth droid that was a combo Halowan Killbot and surgeon that took 40+ damage literally the first five seconds after walking into the line of fire on our side, so he's no longer with us. And a freed dionoga on that same encounter I made eat a person then convinced it to escape into the sewers. This probably won't backfire.
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>>62910729
$100 retail. Usually you can snag it cheaper than that, especially if you're patient, closer to $50/60. Worst case scenario, most FLGS sell FFG product at 20% off MSRP.
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>>62910820
It'd be a bit over 200 euros for me and after my cursory check of the internet i couldn't find any game groups within my country, so i guess i have to pass.
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>>62910843
Out of curiosity, what country?
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>>62911378
benisland.
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>>62907421
Both places are really bad locations to be training impressionable youths with a high risk of turning to the Dark Side, what with their proximity to haunted ruins.
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>>62910705
It was revealed decades after the fact in that Bloodlines book as part of an in-universe political stunt by First Order manchurian candidates, but it comes off like lecturing Botswana about the evil of Hitler and them somehow buying it
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>>62909407
either racanonization of the TX-130 hovertank from my 2002 clone wars video game
OR the Boba Fett/Cad Bane duel

>>62910373
No, but you are a pleb for not wanting a more hipster ship like a Mon Cal cruiser or Interdictor instead
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>>62911625
The revelation comes from Bail's own mouth, which makes it extra dramatic.
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>>62911661
>The revelation comes from Bail's own mouth, which makes it extra dramatic.

Recording?
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>>62911718
Yes. He left a recording for Leia that reveals everything and professes his love for her. A political rival uncovers the recording and uses it.
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>>62909407
The Boba/meme ayy lmao for hipsters quickdraw.
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>>62911718
>>62911760
To add to this, the book opens on a cereminy dedicating a Statue to Bail, and it's the one thing the fractured Senate comes together on.
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Return of The Jedi Special Edition is the best Star Wars film.
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>>62912409
Half right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBgC05SRxZ4
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>>62912436
Literally who is that guy at the end next to Obi-Wan?
We have no history with that guy. It has no weight.
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>>62912468
That's Anakin Skywalker, you fucking autist. We saw his gross burned pale head when he took off his helmet before he died.
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>>62912436
This is a whole lot like the vhs version of the movie.
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>>62912492
If he can manifest without looking like mr. potato head it stands to reason you can change your form however you'd like as a force goast.
Why wouldn't you pick your svelte young self to manifest as at that point?
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>>62912492
>We saw his gross burned pale head
He was unrecognizable.
And besides, we have three movies and a cartoon with a character that looks nothing like the force ghost guy.
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>>62912519
>tfw had the set with the leonard maltin interviews as a kid
Was some good shit.
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>>62912409
Objective Truth
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As long as we're on the topic, does anyone else feel like Hayden was intentionally playing Anakin as a damaged child?
The other day I was talking to someone and they said that they couldn't take the "My new Empire" speech seriously because it wasn't (i'm paraphrasing here) delivered with conviction/strength/power.

My judgement may be clouded, but I think that's less bad acting and more Lucas and Hayden actively trying to make Anakin look deranged and a little pathetic.
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>>62912828
>My judgement may be clouded, but I think that's less bad acting and more Lucas and Hayden actively trying to make Anakin look deranged and a little pathetic.

No doubt. He's broken at that point and trying not to accept how he helped destroy everything, so he grabs onto that.
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>>62912828
Well, the way I see it is that he's doing something hes never really been used to

He's always been taught and had to follow that expressing his emotions is bad etc, so he's had to keep himself closed to others, save for padme, obi and anyone who pissed him off enough

He only really feels as "himself" when he goes against what the jedi want, and thats when he expresses his emotions, sadly in a negative way

Plus currently in that scene he was kinda emotionally confused, as he had to kill his near lifelong friend
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>>62912828
Luke and Anakin are the same whiny naïve idealistic bratty children that went through very similar difficult circumstances but Luke managed to resist temptation. When Anakin would have caved, Luke chose death instead of dishonor - TWICE.
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>>62912913
Luke had the pluses of a relatively normal upbringing (minus the time his uncle had to fight bigfoot) and two bffs that weren't constrained by the dogma of their organization or attempting to manipulate him.
Anakin as we see him from ep 1 would probably end up a lot like ANH Luke if he stayed on Tattooine, though probably a bitt less whiny.
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>>62912913
Ring ring Rian Johnson would like to meet with you
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So, mechanical question here. I'm making a character for an EotE game. I've got 15xp to spend still, and am trying to figure out if it would be better to spend it on skills or talents?
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>>62913211
Darth Filonius is gonna decanonize that garbage and he's already set the plans for the sequel trilogies downfall in motion
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>>62913435
This is after raising your relevant characteristics tight? I would grab some cheap talents to do stuff, get skill ranks later. Early on the talents help you stand out more.
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>>62913505
Bruh, the world between worlds has ST content in it.
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>>62912828
I think they definitely were trying to portray as in increasingly deranged and desperate person. Look at the shit he's been going through. 3 years of intergalactic total war, constant cocksucking but also patronising by the Jedi, seeing your mother die, seeing visions of one of the few people you trust dying too. The only real friend you can open up to is some scrawny but clever old dude who plays you like a fiddle and you can't even notice it because your mind is a mess.
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>>62913512
Yeah, I've got 3 in three characteristics, 2 in two and 1 Cunning. Ironic for former special forces, admittedly, but still.

Any talents in particular you'd recommend? I've got access to the Armorer and Protector trees (our party needed someone decent at Mechanic, and I figured that I was gonna pick up Armorer eventually anyhow, so...)
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>>62913582
Is it possible for you to do 4331 somehow? Having a 4 is really nice. Did you buy two trees very early on? Because that is not wise. Generally you want to stick with one until you have the goodies you need. If the party needs a mechanic so bad you can just procure an astromech.
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>>62913531
>the world between worlds has ST content in it
You do realize that literally means ST content can be changed, right? If it exists in that room, then in theory it can be changed.
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>>62913626
I know it's not wise, but having Mechanics fits the character - although in retrospect I probably could've just paid 10xp for Mechanics as a non-career skill, instead of paying 20xp for the second tree just to get a 5xp discount.
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>>62911476
>Legends
>Coruscant
>Dark side
>Haunted ruins
lol
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>>62913683
Perhaps you could look at the Sentinel Artisan? But the cunning focussed nature of sentinels may not bring your character to life (or enhance it). Either way at generation stay to one tree, you have the whole game to branch out.
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>>62913885
Mmm, that wouldn't work - Mechanics fits the character, but Medicine is more important. I'm willing to spend 5xp more on the first rank of Mechanics, either way - although I think I'll wait until picking up Armorer before buying more ranks in it.
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>>62913942
You could also get the rank after session one. Having a 4 in a characteristic relevant to your character will help you more than this rank, trust me.

Good luck in the game either way anon, give lots of stories too.
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>>62913435
>So, mechanical question here. I'm making a character for an EotE game. I've got 15xp to spend still, and am trying to figure out if it would be better to spend it on skills or talents?
>>62913512
>This is after raising your relevant characteristics tight? I would grab some cheap talents to do stuff, get skill ranks later. Early on the talents help you stand out more.

+1 on raising a stat if you can Obligation more points and have any that would help.

Otherwise, another +1 for Skills before Talents. Talents are nice to modify things as you go along, but early on it's very frustrating if you can't make skill checks because of how low skills start.

Personally I dislike that the system restricts you to "Formally trained but with no actual experience in the field" ranks of 1 or 2; that limits the character concepts which can be supported by mechanics, unless the GM starts the characters as advanced, with more XP to spend.
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>>62914162
You gotta have a zero point, a starting pc is still exceptional compared to most npcs.
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>>62912533
>Three movies and a cartoon
You’re right! They should have filmed the then 2 year old Hayden Christensen for the part of ‘Anakin’s Force Ghost’.
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>>62913582
>Any talents in particular you'd recommend? I've got access to the Armorer and Protector trees (our party needed someone decent at Mechanic, and I figured that I was gonna pick up Armorer eventually anyhow, so...)

>>62913626
>Is it possible for you to do 4331 somehow? Having a 4 is really nice. Did you buy two trees very early on? Because that is not wise. Generally you want to stick with one until you have the goodies you need. If the party needs a mechanic so bad you can just procure an astromech.

With Humans, it seems a tossup between 432222 and 333322 to start. I loved having a 4 with an Int skill monkey. About to have second session with a 3s generalist, so still deciding how I feel about it; I know I miss that 4, though.

ABSOLUTELY agree on not buying a second Specialization at chargen. Depending on how stingy the GM is, an astromech might not be a realistic early game option... regardless, early need can probably be covered by rolling green dice. If you're going Guardian, I expect high Int for Soresu, so yeah...

Is Protector/Tank your starting focus? Your party will appreciate you for a high initiative slot if you take ranks in Vigilance. Having Ranged Light is really nice. Medicine because stimpacks don't help with Crits, and I'm seeing lots of those now that I'm in a game with actual personal scale combat...
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I've got a.... a weird question.
Which planet/people are most fashionable?
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>>62914470
Naboo, Coruscant, Sereno, Cantonica.
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>>62914470
Nagai.
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>>62913683
>I know it's not wise, but having Mechanics fits the character - although in retrospect I probably could've just paid 10xp for Mechanics as a non-career skill, instead of paying 20xp for the second tree just to get a 5xp discount.

>>62913885
>Perhaps you could look at the Sentinel Artisan? But the cunning focused nature of sentinels may not bring your character to life (or enhance it). Either way at generation stay to one tree, you have the whole game to branch out.

Can you rationalize the character having done Mechanics as fits your concept, but without having FORMALLY studied it before? The game points out that people use skills every day based just on their stats, without ranks. S/he could decide to get serious about it based on adventure experience.

Reflecting on my previous reply mentioning Medicine, if you want to be good at Mechanics (and possibly go Artisan and get Astrogation and Computers), AND use Medicine, AND possibly use Soresu, I would push heavily for 4 Intellect... in which case you've got plenty of dice for early game Mechanics checks.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/249874023/Star-Wars-Edge-of-the-Empire-Dice-Roll-Probability

3 Int + 1 rank vs Diff 2 = 65% success
4 Int + 0 rank vs Diff 2 = 72% success

I adore Artisan. It would be worth the penalty 10 XP if and when you decide to explore Mechanics and technology.

Man, now I want to play an Artisan/Soresu Defender.
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>>62914516
Some of Padme's outfits are hilarious looking though.
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>>62914546
Artisan may be the best overall tech guy tree in the game. Only real fault is the lack of active ways to use mechanics or tech like bad motivator or contraption. The fact that it can do any real computer stuff (instead of just banking on a strong dice pool) is huge, trees tend to be all in or have no computers stuff.

Also manipulate is a really neat power.
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>>62914269
>You gotta have a zero point, a starting pc is still exceptional compared to most npcs.

No argument with that. I've just always had a problem with flavor text not cooperating with concept. Want to play a Clone Wars veteran (combat or otherwise)? Well, you didn't do much in the war and you've been slacking off for the ~19 years since, because you can't start with a rank of 3 or 4 in a skill (described as having actually experience with a skill). It's basically like DND 1st level characters in the old days (maybe 5E got better; didn't play enough to find out).

It's not really a big deal. You can just agree to not think about it too hard for the first few sessions, and ignore the retcon after you use your early XP to get those key skills to where your concept requires them to be.
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>>62914470
Alsakan.
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>>62914632
>Artisan may be the best overall tech guy tree in the game. Only real fault is the lack of active ways to use mechanics or tech like bad motivator or contraption. The fact that it can do any real computer stuff (instead of just banking on a strong dice pool) is huge, trees tend to be all in or have no computers stuff.
>Also manipulate is a really neat power.

Yer gettin' me all hot and bothered... like I said, I love Artisan. It's beautiful that it has both Mechanics and Computers; let's you turn anybody into a competent (if not heroically Bad-Motivator-ing) tech as a secondary role.
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>>62914642
A classic way to handle low power veterans in that your skills just atrophied with time/lack of use, and only now are you getting it all back as you face real challenges once more.

Ranks 3-4 puts you in the domain of "expert in your field". The colonist book for example says that doing complex surgery is out of the question untill you got 4 ranks medicine (that is, people would not hire you).
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Is there currently a good way to use Ruthless? I like the concept of the card but I don't know what Imperial ship could serve as the "victim" and not give up points or heal itself.
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>>62914779
>Ranks 3-4 puts you in the domain of "expert in your field". The colonist book for example says that doing complex surgery is out of the question untill you got 4 ranks medicine (that is, people would not hire you).

This... kind of supports my position. By starting as Doctor, you can make a med student, but not a surgeon or experienced general practitioner.

It is what it is. Meh. If that's my biggest gripe with the system, it must be a pretty good game.
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>>62914546
>https://www.scribd.com/doc/249874023/Star-Wars-Edge-of-the-Empire-Dice-Roll-Probability
>3 Int + 1 rank vs Diff 2 = 65% success
>4 Int + 0 rank vs Diff 2 = 72% success

I should have attached relevant image. Here it is for anyone who doesn't already have it saved.
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>>62904429
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Reconquest_of_the_Rim
Take a look at the battle lists or map. You have mercs, loyal hired guns, and slavers up galactic north. Trade Federation diehards to the South, and Hutts to the east
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>>62913582
>Any talents in particular you'd recommend? I've got access to the Armorer and Protector trees (our party needed someone decent at Mechanic, and I figured that I was gonna pick up Armorer eventually anyhow, so...)

Have you compared the Protector Talent Force Protection to using Enhance for Brawn, instead?

I've seen plenty of people talk about getting a GM to houserule a replacement because it's egregiously bad, but you can just loop around it on the tree... though having to do that twice kind of sucks.
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>>62914574
Silliness is to be expected on occasion in the fashion scene of Space Italy.
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>>62915568
Why aren't there more space Italies in scifi in general?
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>>62915639
It's probably hard to find good voice actors who can pull off convincing Italian accents. Nintendo has kind of locked down that market niche.
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>>62915639
Space Rome usually supersedes Space Italy unless Space Venice is involved
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Post your ship-fu
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>>62916126
>tfw toys never
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>>62916126
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My Y-Wing pilot can't be this cute!
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>>62916156
>never
Have you been living under a rock for the past few years?
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>>62916224
I SAID TOYS NOT OVERPRICED CARDBOARD MASQUERADING AS A GAME
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>>62916323
Complain on /toy/ instead then.
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>>62916126
>ywn be a space trucker in a galaxy far, far away
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Are any of the new Marvel comics worth reading?
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>>62916454
The Darth Vader one has meme potential.
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>>62903465
you mispelled worst
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>>62916454
Do you enjoy spoopy moomins?
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>>62916454
When you say "new" do you mean "anything since 2015" or do you mean recent issues
Because if you mean the latter, the answer is a vehement and resounding no.
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>>62916454
I quite like the first Lando comics, the second Vader line, Kanan the Last Padawan, the Anakin and Kenobi comic, Shattered Empire, and the 3po oneshot
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-vVDtfQFg0&t=0s

Suprise announcement, a series about Cassian Andor.

I'm interested. R1 is the only good thing to come out of Disney Star Wars and early Rebellion is my favourite setting. Maybe this will be what I wanted from Rebels.
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>>62916820
Is Momin actually liked or is it just a meme? Because he legitimately seemsw like a really lame Sith. All he wants to do is cause shock value, like some kind of Family Guy or Game of Thrones writer.
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>>62917490
I like him as a meme lord of the sith.
Seriously, how many artistic (autistic) sith lords are there?
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>>62917490
He's amusing because he's ridiculous, which is refreshing in the middle of the ridiculous edge that permeates that entire comic series
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>>62917440
It's kind of shit to do a series about someone we know is going to die.
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>>62917623
You could say that about almost literally everyone in the Clone Wars.
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>>62917623
Hey, X-COM proved it could be done.
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>>62917700
Yeah, but that took so much alcohol.
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>>62917440

Oh fuck yes.
He was my favourite thing about that film.
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>>62917700
Wait, they made a tv series for XCOM?
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>>62917765
No, but it is still a series about people that we know are going to die.
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>>62917524
>>62917572
Okay, that's understandable.
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>>62917796
Oh, right. Shame, I've always felt like XCOM would work pretty well in a tv show's format.
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>>62917490
Those two qualities are not separable for me. On the ranking list of Serious Sith Lords Doing Serious Shit he is clearly nowhere close to the top. He was just some C-list dark lord, trying to put into action a moderately nefarious plan until he was foiled by (presumably) equally C-list Jedi heroes thousands of years ago. It doesn't take a genius to see why his particular flavor of Sith philosophy got quickly condemned to the ash heap of history.

But he compensates by being weird and memeable. For fuck's sake, he got literally sentenced to prison for making statues that were "too spoopy". He even has a ridiculous name.

He wouldn't work if he was contemporary to the films or had major importance. But as a minor figure in the distant past his quirky weirdness makes the galaxy seem old and big: galactic history is long enough to have seen countless small, strange incidents.

TL:DR; Momin is retarded, but in a charming way.
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Fresh leaks from the usual source, Polish facebook

Big announcement tomorrow 17:00 I guess CET. They got 14 A4 pages to translate. Likely Clone Wars, as we got a picture of Maul's spy droid, plus something what looks like a nebula? probably new type of obstacle
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>>62917964
>he got literally sentenced to prison for making statues that were "too spoopy"
To be fair, it's not like riots sparked by controversial art are totally unheard of.
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>>62917684
Except there's a shitload of people from TCW who lived or at least have ambiguous fates
It's kind of dumb to make a television series as a backstory for an underperforming movie with a completely forgettable cast, next thing you know they'll announce a series about the fembot from Solo
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>>62918545
This being Star Wars, a fembot comic is likely already in the works.
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>>62918545
>underperforming movie
you got your spinoffs mixed um mate

what even is your argument, what's wrong with making a series about people who will die at some point?
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>>62918353
Oooh, new obstacles sound interesting.
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>>62918644

Hell, the Imp worshipper will probably love it, since Cassian's entire thing up until the events of R1 was 'doing awful things for the greater good', so presumably his show will include a whole bunch of morally grey (at best) Rebel Alliance wetwork missions.
Which Im very much down to see more of, as a die hard Rebfag.
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>>62918644
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>>62918875
I'm fairly sure he's not going to be randomly killed off in this show
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>>62918961
I'm fairly sure that's not the point that was being made
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>>62918353
Oh shit senpai
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What sorts of ships does the Sullustan Home Guard use?
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>>62918986
yeah because no point is being made
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>>62918353
>Fresh leaks from the usual source, Polish facebook
link?
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>>62919121
SoroSuub actually makes some fairly serious shit when it comes to spaceships, so independent Sullust could be quite a defended place
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Category:SoroSuub_Corporation_products
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not sure if this is star wars related but I had a dream last night I was a girl (this happens often) and I was an imperial officer with a pretty high rank. I had a bunch of subordinate officers who ran tasks and shit, they were also all girls. I absolutely loved the adoration I got from the other officers, but one of them didnt like me so they tried getting me in trouble and reported me the moff. I found her out with the help of an ewok (no idea why the imps had an ewok on baord) and assigned her to garbage disposal. God it was a god dream being looked up to and seen as above the others was super cool and being a girl was pretty great as well, but I got to wear the sweet imp officer uniform as well. Any way it was star wars related and I figured I would share.
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>>62919353
I want to know the context of this image

They seem drunk
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>>62919538
Someone's getting drunk
Someone getting fingered later on
Someone else will be getting fucked in the courts

>wonder if being a cynical old cunt counts as wandering into the darkside?
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>>62919817
Nah as Pryce is for no one as she cant find a bf, even on coruscant

They probably got drunk and did some stripping, given that Pryce is Titcow Supreme
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What does the ISB/Intelligence-type black jodhpurs and hat but with the olive tunic represent? I get this comic is riddled with continuity errors but what branch of imperial forces would this represent?

Also does the Inspectorate replace the IOCI in Canon? Or would the IOCI still exist?
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>>62919850
Well, I guess she can add carpet burn to her list of other things burnt in the course of service to the empire
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>>62919908
>Hardly any Pryce Lewds
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>>62919857
Maybe fleet intelligence, or maybe they just fucked up and who knows!

>>62919994
This wouldn't happen if George was still drunkenly rambling around the set, god bless the fucking degenerate he did like a big ol set of titties
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>>62919908
>Novel Pryce: Actually an engaging character with thoughts, feelings, and a character arc.
>Show Pryce: Stock Aristocratic Bitch Boss

I like Novel Pryce more
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>>62919994
She's an incredibly generic character design. There's probably a lot of art of busty cartoon girls with the same hair who look exactly the same.
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>>62920111
Still 10x more a character than 90% of the ST cast

But for reals though, IS she based off of Irina Spalko? The similarities are way too much to be a coincidence, and the Wook mentions nothing
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>>62920111
I mean in the show she just serves as the placeholder antagonist when you can't have the bigger guys take the L too often, and it's a pretty large roster of bad guys by the time she shows up. In the novel she has a chance to do shit thanks to the POV in that story.
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>>62920119
Shall I tell you the REAL sin?

Hardly any Zam lewds
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>>62920166
Good news! Any leeds can be zam lewds with ~imagination~
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>>62920166
>Shapeshifter
Unless you have a very specific boner for the hideous clawdite default form, your imagination and the law of conservation of mass are the limit. Step up your game. Or buy the gunpla on Amazon.
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>>62920119
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>>62920228
Oh hey Big Zam.
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>>62920228
Well yeah but Zams normal human form is qt
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>>62920270
If you can't find a gorillion pictures of generically busty cartoon females with black pixie cuts on the internet, then I don't think anyone can help you. Aside from the Imp uniform, she's one of the most cookie-cutter designs to walk off a drawing board.
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>>62917440
>the most generic character in Rogue One gets a series
Why him? Why not the two monks?
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>>62920459
I didnt have the Qui-Gon one to hand, so have the Payday 2 one

But Porn of Cartoon Busty Girls with Black Pixie Cuts aint gonna happen
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>>62919994
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>>62920492
>Not wanting the Krennic and CG Tarkin Power Hour
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>>62920492
he's been getting some ties to the VR stories going on, I bet you 10 credits that the show relates to that somehow.
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>>62920615
Oh god
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>>62920111
>has 50% of a 400 page novel dedicated to her characterization and backstory
>has 30 minutes total screentime spread across 2 dozen episodes serving as the foil villain to Thrawn
wow...so this...is the power...of anti-rebels posters...damn...
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>>62920798
I'd put it at 35% Pryce, 10% Eli, 5% Other, 50% bBig Blue
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>>62920827
It's more like 5% Eli, 50% Thrawn, and 45% Pryce, but that's being very generous to Eli because he's only got about 4 pages total dedicated to him without any influence of Thrawn on his life. Otherwise the amount of chapters and pagecounts dealing with Pryce and Thrawn are almost even, practically alternating throughout the novel. However this is only for the first one, I haven't read Thrawn Alliances so I don't know whether Eli or Pryce are in that at all, though I assume they can't be too present considering its set during TCW I think
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>>62920931
I read alliances, neither of those characters play a role in the story. Half of alliances is set in the clone wars and half of it is set directly after the battle of attalon.
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>>62910373
No, you’d be more of a faggot if you actually played the game.

Hot garbage only redeemed by the models.
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Best support/escort fleet for a trio of ImpStar-Is?
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>>62921331
Probably some number of quasar fire carriers (or similar craft), a few gozantis (5 or so) for the flexibility they offer. If the mission profile calls for it, an interdictor.
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>>62921411
the answer is always arqs

then goz and ties to taste
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>>62921469
The arquitens feels more like what you send when a full ISD is overkill, rather than a proper escort for the ISD.
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I feel like this is a cool character concept but I get the feeling it's been done to death.
>Droid Force Adherent
>Assistant to a Jedi during the Clone Wars
>Jedi treats the droid as an equal, clones too
>Learns about the force
>Order 66 happens, takes up the Jedi's robes afterwards
>Travels the galaxy, trying to find its place in the force
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>>62921331
A squadron of cruisers, dreads, vindicators or strikes and another of light cruisers or frigates for scouting and escort duty, plus other ships as the mission dictates, anything from gozantis to carracks to interdictors to Victories if it's real hardcore shitkicking time
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>>62921331
You can never go wrong with Carracks, Strike Cruisers, and Tartans. Throw in an Empire at War Acclamator or two if you need big torp-slinging muscle.
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>>62921522
It's a novel enough take on the idea in the context of star wars, and Force adherent is a really cool tree, doesn't get enough love. Robot monks are neat.
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>>62921671
>>62921522

Force Adherent? I missed that tree, what is it?
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>>62921689
It's a universal specialization in Dawn of Rebellion, it's a melee monk that cares about having a strong Knowledge (Lore).
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>>62921719

Ah, I see. I was looking through the jedi stuff with a name like that.
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So, Byss exists in nucanon, what could be some interesting (and hopefully new) things done with it around the ST's timeframe?
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>>62922147
Rey goes there to fight and defeat the Dark Side. And wins.
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>>62922189
I knew someone was gonna say something like that, I don't even know why I bothered asking.
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>>62922263
If you expect anything better in the ST's timeframe, I don't know what to say.
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>>62922147
In a shocking twist it's actually the home to a secret NR military base with a bunch of old, officially destroyed ISDs and other imperial ships
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>>62922299
Why shouldn't I expect anything better? Surely it's at least worth trying, for conversation's sake if nothing else.

>>62922310
That's not bad actually, I kind of like it. Though it makes me wonder how the whole 'saturated in the dark side' thing might play into it.
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>>62922147
Rey travels there to fight the dark side and is possessed by Valsnokion, becoming Snoku Black. Poe sacrifices himself to buy time for Future Finn to travel back in time and warn the Star Warriors of old.
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>>62922147
Kylo finalizing his efforts at self actualization for the worst
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>>62922412
>Spoiler
Oh? How so?
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>>62922359
The dark side saturation doesn't necessarily exist in the new canon, that's the thing
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>>62922446
Well, the for the better option would involve him finding a proper new path, for the worst would be him retreading the worst mistakes on a world with a strong connection to the dark side.
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>>62922484
If you use a world like byss, it's because you want one that is bathed in the dark side.
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>>62922484
That is true, yeah, something I keep forgetting. I guess I just want to use it as an excuse to try and do new things with stuff that existed in the old canon, hence Byss being a darkside planet.

>>62922485
What would a proper new path for Kylo? Cause, I don't see him turning away from the dark side at any point soon, not when it's giving him almost literally everything he could want.

What's more, I remember reading somewhere that someone reckoned how Kylo is like a horse that's had its belly slashed open, and all its guts are spilling out and tangling with its hooves. But it's so mad from pain and fear that it keeps running, furthering its own disembowelment. That's where Kylo is, post-tlj. Going further on is just making things worse for himself, but he doesn't know *how* to stop, even if he could.
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>>62922620
Well, the First Order doesn't like him much. He's vastly incompetent and unstable. He couldn't scheme his way out of a paper bag.
I'm guessing Hux is going to run off with everything one night and Kylo's going to find himself very alone except for his knights which may or may not exist. Maybe act as a wildcard faction in the political nonsense happening in the galaxy at large.
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>>62922755
>He's vastly incompetent and unstable. He couldn't scheme his way out of a paper bag.
That describes every bigshot in the FO except Snoke. Who's apparently dead because he isn't directly connected to Rey and is thus irrelevant.
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>>62922755

The one thing I rather enjoyed in TLJ is Hux clearly starting to realise just how much of an idiot Kylo is and just how much it's going to suck.
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>>62922755
Mm, I had an idea for something similar for a fic I'm probably never going to write, with the FO eventually fracturing between Hux (who has the support of most of the officer corp) and Kylo (who has his knights and a few star destroyers full of troopers who are loyal to him, due to stuff).

Wasn't really sure what I wanted to have happen to him eventually, some vague ideas about him being tutored in how to make using the dark side work by Revan's ghost.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna934256

Thoughts?
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>>62923227
I'd have watched a show about Donnie Yen and the other guy.
But might be neat. Same level of 'ehh' as I am in regards to the mandalorian show but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
There's some poetry to be had if star wars did well on television while its movies flounder, meanwhile star trek's movies are doing passably and STD's getting cucked by a fucking seth macfarlane show
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>>62922147
Actually, almost the entirety of the Legends map still exists in nucanon. The galaxy map is like 99% unchanged, the only significant differences are the addition of new locations and the removal of Zenoma Sekot.
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>>62923314
>and the removal of Zenoma Sekot.
RIP
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>>62923314
some of the movie planets got shifted around
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>>62923314
>and the removal of Zonoma Sekot
The Vong are canon though???
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>>62923665
No, they're not. The only "canon" on them is that they would have appeared in unproduced TCW episodes that were at one point considered to be canon, but that's it.
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>>62923720
Undproduced TCW arcs are canon though.
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>>62923720
I remember reading about that, it's a damn shame that it'll probably never make it into season seven. The whole 'alien abduction' plot might have been something that you don't see a lot of in stuff like TCW.

Plus it made me think of Canderous' story from KOTOR, I think that's the best way of approaching them. As some kind of completely unknown- and to an extent unknowable - threat that nobody is in the least bit prepared for.
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>tfw no Pryce gf
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>>62923227
>Thoughts?

The big question is: Alan Tudick?
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>>62923801
Only in-house, and as far as we know they never even got as far as developing an actual script for said episodes, only concept art and a basic idea.

>>62923805
"Season" 7 is only twelve episodes, three four-episode story arcs.

Siege of Mandalore is the obvious one, since the trailer had Ahsoka and Bo-Katan. Bad Batch is likely, given the appearance of one of their members. Given Bad Batch is one of the unfinished story arcs they released on the official site, the only other arc to make sense for them to release for TCW Revisited is Crystal Crisis on Utapau, as it was at the same level of completion as Bad Batch, and as its central conceit is the kyber crystals - which they've played up significantly in nucanon - it's basically the only real possibility.

The only thing throwing a wrench into the possibility that Crystal Crisis on Utapau being the last one is that the voice actors were in the studio recording additional lines.
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>>62923926
I hope it's not just the story reel arcade, but even if it is, maybe they revised the scripts. The Utapau arc scripts felt a little loose to me.
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>>62923966
>arcade
*arcs
damn phone
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>>62923227
I think it's fine, but it raises a question, where Igner admitted about a month ago that they were oversaturating the brand with having a Star Wars movie every year and decided to slow down their release schedule for the time being, yet now they've got Resistance, the Mandalorian show, and now the Cassian show.

So they've slowed down the movies, but they're picking up the pace on the television/streaming series? Granted, Resistance is explicitly targeted at a very young audience, whereas the Mandalorian and Cassian shows will likely be aimed at older audiences, but it still seems like they're leaning hard on oversaturation, just in a different medium. What will it take for Disney to learn that they can't run Star Wars like they do Marvel?

Meanwhile, despite Disney pushing out movie after movie, and series after series, EA has still done fuck-all with Star Wars vidya.
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>>62923926
Hm, I see why they'd do it like that, but it feels like they're kind of half-assing it if they're only gonna be doing the episodes that everyone's basically already seen (in an uncompleted format, but still).
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>>62924015
Honestly I can see the Cassian show being an off-season thing between seasons of The Mandalorian. Either that, or released in mini-series style like the Marvel Netflix shows, while The Mandalorian is released like a traditional TV show.
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>>62924015
>What will it take for Disney to learn that they can't run Star Wars like they do Marvel?
A series of miracles. You'd need to replace all the suits in charge with people who have that once-in-a-millennium combination of genuine passion for the brand, an understanding of pacing, corporate savvy, and a head that isn't in the clouds. You'd need execs who haven't been taken out of touch with the fanbase by the stresses of high-level corporate work, statistics juggling, bureaucracy, and answering to investors. You'd need consumers who vocally and actively demand quality products instead of an endless parade of mediocrity. And you'd need investors who actually care about the brand as a long-term golden goose instead of a short-lived burst of cash. And investors will never care about the long-term health of a brand because they want their profits while they're still young enough to enjoy spending that cash.
>EA
IIRC, EA's cash cows are and almost always have been its sports titles, with everything else a secondary consideration. And given how poorly EA's Star Wars stuff has done, it's likely that investors and suits took it the wrong way and decided that Star Wars isn't profitable enough to take risks on. EA's reputation and business practices have also probably poisoned the well. Even if EA tries to start a redemption arc and churn out its first genuinely good Star Wars game, buyers hate EA too much to trust it again. So their safest option is to sit on it and deny the brand to the enemy.
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these shows will be generic garbage indistinguishable from any other primetime adult drama broadcast within the past 18 years but with a thin star wars veneer hastily tacked on
if you watched CSI, 24, Sopranos, NCIS or Star Trek Discovery, you've already seen it
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>>62920635
I want a show about the Death Trooper squad oper8ing operationally.
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>>62924285
They'd never be able to do that without addressing the source of their weird nickname (which is supposed to be project blackwing even in-universe) at some point, and re-hiring all those SEA spec-ops guys they got to play them the first time around.
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>>62924261
The Cassian show might be like this, but The Mandalorian has George's Padaman as a producer and director.
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>>62924285
>watch them go through training
>see them all picked off one by one through the season like Domino Squad
>the survivors slowly move up in the org, but are haunted by the memories of those they lost to the Rebs
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>>62924328
>and re-hiring all those SEA spec-ops guys they got to play them the first time around.
There's plenty of military consultants and competent actors out there who can do a similar job or be trained to approximate the right movements and posture. Shit, I'm sure there's plenty of troops/retired veterans in the Anglosphere who'd jump at the chance to do some space operating.
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>>62924330
>Lucas' Padawan
You mean Dave Filoni or Ron Howard? Because Jon Favreau is not the correct choice for anything with the name Star Wars in it
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>>62923868
He was in that godawful DC sitcom, I imagine he'll take any job offered.
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How's this sound for a beginning adventure hook for a smuggler character starting in debt in WEG?
>start 25k creds in debt
>debt holder suggests they go to Dantooine to ransack an abandoned Rebel base to get anything valuable left behind
>run into Imperials that are scouting out the abandoned base and setting up Imperial garrison
>Imperials go full "It's them, BLAST 'EM!"
>smuggler and co have to escape with any loot they can grab and make it off planet and out of system before ISDs come and interdict
Could use some more ideas as well.
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>>62924351
Is this supposed to be a satire
that's the story beat I've heard for every military commando setup for 20 years
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>>62924446
If only he'd get hired for an X-Wing TV series. He'd be perfect as Hobbie.
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>>62924414
>Death Trooper Rudy Reyes
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>>62924462
Little bit. Mostly because it's so common, it'd be easy to do but still get an audience.
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Does anyone know the comic where Luke goes to some planet to convince the people to side with the rebellion but the empire already contacted them and they try to kill Luke while hes climbing up a mountain?
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Should I get the Shatterpoint audiobook or paperback?
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>>62924882
Neither. Stover is a hack!!!
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>>62924015
the thing is these are meant to stock the larder for that Disney+ we're getting next year. They want multiple star wars shows to lure folks in. Perfectly reasonable to try and entice people by having 5 star wars shows available on there, and they wanted some aimed at more mature audiences.
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>>62924890
You shut your goddamn mouth.

>>62924882
I think there's a pretty good-quality ebook version of it in the trove at the top of the thread, but if you don't want that then I'd suggest the audiobook.
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>>62917818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CvURidpkCY
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>>62925288
HAH! Fuck me, how did I forget about that? Not quite what I had in mind, but well-remembered nonetheless.
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>>62923310
So the DC/Marvel thing,

DC-good on TV
Marvel-well selling films
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>>62925288
Well found me some 1970's sci-fi to watch on youtube with purple chicks in silver mini skirts
There's also Space:1999 episodes there which are fucking hilarious in the cheesy 'this shit is totally serious' kind of way and it did try pretty hard for 2 seasons
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>>62925486
Yeah, I've a feeling you'll enjoy that one. Once saw it described as 'the 80s as imagined by the 70s'. Surprised you didn't know of it beforehand.

Don't think it was very long, but it's Gerry Anderson's stuff at its finest.
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>Vaylin is just a little girl who was experimented on and abused since she was born
>there are entire missions discovering the horrible things done to her, you even find the facility and it's intentionally a horror show
>sympathize with her and feel sorry for her because he father is literally just evil and wanted to control her
>Arcaan is a bloodthirsty conqueror who attacked the galaxy and lead from the front because he wanted to
>he later becomes a power hungry emperor and is shown to be selfish and ambitious
>Arcaan is the one you can help
>Vaylin is the one you have to kill
Bioware....
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>>62925582
Nigga, Vaylin was explicitly shown to be broken beyond repair. She was Chaotic Evil incarnate and the only things she ever did was because she found them amusing, and those things were almost always horrific. She kills her own guards either for fun, to show off her power, or simply because she hates odd numbers. Arcann was bad too, but he had much more purpose in his actions.

The entire family were victims of Valkorion to some extent, and Vaylin got the worst of it. She wasn't just mentally abused like Arcann and Thexan; she was experimented on and modified to fit Valkorion's plan. By the end, she was nothing but an entity of rage that only wanted to exercise her hatred on the galaxy, and everyone else that she believed "betrayed" her.

Vaylin's tragic because she's too far gone, even before the Outlander meets her. Not everyone can be saved. Just because she's a qt doesn't mean there's good left in her.
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>>62925564
I very vaguely remember it as a repeat probably in the 1980s but really don't have much memory of it at all apart from the lead actress being really stunning (cant remember her name). Sometimes its fun to go back and revisit shows like the BSG first generation, Buck Rogers and Blakes 7
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>>62925658
redemption is a theme of star wars. Did you watch RotJ.

The Consular is the exact type of person she needed in her life.
I think they dropped the ball with the kids. It should have been a choice between them, or getting them both should have been some really difficult mission or something like that.

Having her be a tragic victim who was "too far gone" goes against one of the core themes of the original trilogy.
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>>62925731
Not every Star Wars story needs to recycle the OT.

>Playing a Jedi
Shiggy diggy I respect your choice, though.
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>>62925582
>letting either of those two mass-murdering scumbags live
As far as I'm concerned, neither of them have an excuse.
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>>62915639
>INFINITE SPACE 2 never ever.
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>>62921522
Now, see, there were actual droid personnel in the Jedi Order, important fixtures of the organization who served as important arbiters of their spiritual development .

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Huyang
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>>62922755
I don't think the First Order like Hux much either desu
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>>62925767
Honestly, all of the Valkorion arc felt really weird as non-Force classes. Jedi Knight Solid Snake, at least, felt like a natural fit for the generic Star Wars protagonist role the writers seemingly wanted on the light side path. On the other end of the scale, there's classes like the bounty hunter. I get that the hunter has an above-average resume but it's still odd that discount Lando and Replacement McWaifubait would jailbreak someone who, before the time skip, was effectively just a hired gun with great ratings on space Yelp.

Also, did the Eternal Empire story feel like a rehash of Mass Effect 2 or am I just spouting crazy talk?
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>>62926121
Yeah, it felt very wrong as a non-Force using class. I used to main an Operative, but changed to Sith Juggernaut partways through because I felt so out of place. Plus, the appeal of playing a Sith that becomes something of an anti-hero trying to save the galaxy as a whole seemed really fun. (Also changed because, mechanically, I loved Operative for the healing, but by that point my guild collapsed and I only played TOR with a couple of friends, so a class change was in order anyway).

And I also sorta got that vibe; it felt, at least for a while, like an ME2/ME3 thing. Hell, I was even listening to Malukah's ME3 song back when the news for KotFE was somewhat vague.
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Filoni is directing the pilot episode.
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hey swg. I'm hoping you can help me. I've been DMing a campagin for a few months now, and I feel like I'm lacking for meaningful loot for my party. I've looked through an equipment guide, and even a d100 loot generator, but I still feel like there is a lack of variety and customization to the spoils I can give. Could a kind anon point me in the right direction of some resources to alleviate this problem?
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>>62918353
Nebula, huh? I sense some sexy Y-fus.
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>>62927597
Ah yes, the BTL-B Y-wing
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>>62926713
Make items that fit your players. Give them semi interesting abilities. You can also make items that grant ranks in certain talents that have few to no ways to get more ranks (like "That's how it is done").
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new thread
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>>62923868
I'd watch the show just for him honestly.
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>>62924611
>Does anyone know the comic where Luke goes to some planet to convince the people to side with the rebellion but the empire already contacted them and they try to kill Luke while hes climbing up a mountain?

I think it's in the Star Wars trade paperback of the arc where Leia suddenly agrees to marry some dude to get that planet to ally with them...





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