Previous Thread: >>62896896WoD websitehttps://www.worldofdarkness.com/>V5 https://mega.nz/#!ibIUwYbB!0XgND-bLYIic5GULztsmH6J2XXHByiU7CHtwbqeBOiU>MEGA (mostly Chronicles of Darkness)https://mega.nz/#F!rFIDxRRK!IEzkLlroRoPwmDqtxKRMsw (we get it, it's broken)>MEGA (mostly Old World of Darkness) https://mega.nz/#F!cSRAhRSb!_w_CXRj14pgt8C9nP6ursw>Question:How would you teach an Elder how to use the internet?
>>62918343>Why would I do, if they are going to go straight at their Daddy Antediluvian and fuck it all for the rest of us?
>>62918343How, old an elder?
>>62918343>How would you teach an Elder how to use the internet?Drag in some geeky kid, tell him to kindly ghoulify it.
>>62918343>How would you teach an Elder how to use the internet?Like I explained it to my parents. With a lot of patience. A fucking lot.
>>62918326Currently playing a Setite Priest, full on Path of Typhon, following a gang of Anarchs since they somehow got in the tracks of a Baali cult and he kinda wants to murderkill the demonic Aeon-slaves for Set and giggles. Only a couple members of the coterie know of his nature and are occult-savvy enough to know that until they're going against the Baali, I'm not going to play any game on them. Except trying to convert them. Which I wouldn't absolutely do, of course. Maybe.Yeah, I did the Setite-Anarch alliance before V5, I should sue WW.
>>62918326Are you me? I'm doing something similar. A porn star turn legit movie producer/director who's indifferent towards Kindred politics. Is part of the Camirilla but mostly has a money backer. He still dreams of creating the greatest movie ever.
Standard character creation + 150 freebies. What's the strongest vampire you can come up with?
>>62918343He will request it from you.
Ditching the metaplot was a good thing as far as Requiem goes.
>>62919002I know next to nothing about requiem, could you elaborate what you meant by requiem ditching the metaplot?
>>62919002Only thing is the Masquerade mechanics feel better to me. Perhaps it is because I am more used to them.Ditching the metaplot is a double-edged sword. I have a difficult time fitting into it, given I've been told I fit best as a pseudofascist Anarch, but on the other hand, I tend to devolve into pure degeneracy without a metaplot.
>>62918343>How would you teach an Elder how to use the internet?It's like using the Akashik Records, except for every ounce of truth, there's a pound of bullshit because plebs can use it.But, unlike the Akashik Records, because plebs can use it, you can control them through it.For example: the base kine now has access to a cell phone capable of accessing the great wealth of human knowledge and a high definition camera. Yet that same kine will complain about how they've no means to improve their social or financial standing. Often while holding in their hands a tool that could facilitate the learning or practicing of a trade. The kine will become enraged by the information he receives from this tool, and actively seek out more enraging material in an attempt to justify its own ill-conceived worldview. By manipulating the kine through the Internet, they may be inspired to self-segregate into convenient groups of people: those who may be cultivated for service to the kindred, and the dregs. The mentally weak may be convinced to irreparably mutilate themselves, denying them the opportunity to breed while marking them as defective to the rest of the livestock.
>>62918744Oh dude! That's crazy. He looks awesome. I just thought it would be fun to not play aggressively political this time around since my last character was a ladder climbing Venture. That is a thought, what's everyone's rules on scheming in game? My new group tends to scheme via GM notes and PMs but personally I like scheming 'in the open', if you will and RPing out the plans and trusting my group not to metagame. I feel doing it via PMs kinda takes away the RP element of things.
>>62919002>>62919068Oh yeah, that's was something I wanted to ask: do anyone of you have experience playing Masquerade without the metaplot?
>>62919260Not yet. How would that even work?If we were all "Caitiff" with around Gen 8 - 13 powers, my personal powers would likely either be Dominate, Vicissitude, and Presence, or Dominate, Obfuscate, and Fortitude. So either way, a messed up Ventrue. Fitting, given that I'm a law student.
>>62918343One night doing tech support for grandpa and making whatever account he wants for a minor boon and to not die, immediately spend it to get out of town before hunters arrive because you know he absorbed nothing about security.
>>62919260What counts as metaplot?I've played basically ignoring the whole end-of-the-world thing by just... ignoring it. We played a game set in, like, late 2000s, and then one in early 2010s.But if you mean ignoring the clans, the Camarilla/Sabbat/Anarchs division, things like Noddism, and the history of vampires, no.
>>62919405I'm more interested in the second part and any combination of it. Like using the clans but ignoring or changing things from the lower generations, making any other interpretation of the history of vampires that are present in cannon (like the whole thing the Molochim have with Abel) be the truth or even rewriting everything from the ground up and using things like clans and sects as guidelines.
>>62919670I kind of want to write an alternate setting where the clans belong to different sects because the sects have begun to reflect, mimic, and infiltrate modern kine politics. So far I have the Ventrue, Toreador, Malkavians, and Assamites in a centrist/big tent Camarilla, the Gangrel, Tzimisce, and Ravnos in a communist Sabbat, and the LaSombra, Setites, and Giovanni in a fascist Anarch Movement.
Spekkio, are you here?I´m the guy who asked about appearance in the last thread. I think my post got buried last thread.>>62919891
>>62919978Just saw m8. He isn't online anymore. Use his handle, because I'll prolly forget, and he said it was cool.Matthew Dawkins#7043
>>62919978You can buy up Merits with XP, so yes, you can increase that with story justification.
>>62920042>you can increase that with story justification.And what would be a solid justification other than Vicissitude?
>>62920063Appearance isn't simply how you look physically. Your character could have a pleasant face but stink and that would hurt his total Appearance rating.
>>62919670Huh. Well, two things I have relate to that sort of.One game was set in a Domain run by a... Non-affiliated Prince, I guess? I'm actually not sure what her sect was if she even had one. But she basically opened up the city to both Camarilla and Sabbat. It was interesting. Worked pretty well, I'd say. I think the party was pretty split between them.If I ever run a Masquerade game, I'd probably take at least a few elements from Requiem to slightly rewrite the setting. I don't know how far I'd go, though.
>>62920201He's talking V5 where there is no more Appearance attribute.>>62920063The story itself. You spend time making yourself up, things to justify the actual bonus. You would buy the merit after justifying, and it's a part of your 'wake up' routine. At least, I'd allow it in that manner as an ST.
>>62920201That was true for the old Appearance attribute. I´m talking about the Looks merit, which, I believe, is just about the physical part of the old Appearance.
>>62920258You mean like makeup and better clothes?I think there´s a serious limit to how much that affects most people´s looks. Let´s suppose picture related is a Brujah Neonate. Could she ever become a 9/10? Or is she doomed to be fucking ugly forever without Vicissitude?
>>62920377She would probably need a ritual, let alone Vicissitude.On the subject, how nonhuman can you go before the Monstrous flaw is required?
>>62920422Remember that "1 to 10 for men" chart? I think at least some of the ugliest guys there do qualify for the flaw.
>>62920550Show me, please.
>>62920556Elephant man, for example, would be a "monstrous" in my opinion.
>>62920611Fuck, here´s a better quality.
>>62920628Requesting far better resolution 1 to 10 for WOMEN.If possible, full body.It's for a friend.Doing research.About people.Thanks.
>>62920647Full body? I don´t have anything like that.
>>62920718Well, I'll have to tell my friend that I cannot unfortunately provide him with the physical attractiveness index he so desperately needed for his tomorrow due university paper.One full-paid scholarship going down the drain.In seriousness, that 1 to 10 is probably no the best or more accurate table. Interestingly, by compressing them in 1 to 5 it doesn't match WoD appearance (Appearance 2 would mean what in this table is 3 to 4, and that's definitely not it).I'll say my approximations:Appearance Rating - Table 1to10 Rating0 - 11 - 2 and 32 - 4 and 53 - 6 and up to 7.54 - 7.5 up to 95 - 9 to 10
>>62920810The 1 to 5 WoD scale is really bad for accuracy. Your approximations look pretty good to me.
>>62920810Now, given WoD rules, Appearance 0 mean "Monstruous" or Nosferatu, because there is no other way to achieve Appearance 0 in chargen.However, the lore makes it look like seeing a Nosferatu is not just App 0 but actually realizing that's a supernatural creature.I disagree. You have people like the classical Orlok who just looks like an ugly creepy guy, and then you have ridiculous aberrations like Cock Robin (which would be App - 2 or something), all under the same App 0.
>>62920883Thanks, hope its useful.
>>62920892>However, the lore makes it look like seeing a Nosferatu is not just App 0 but actually realizing that's a supernatural creatureYeah, that always bothered me too.I mean, look the elephant man. Suppose you never heard of the guy and then one night you see him in a black alley. If you are the superstitious type, you may think you just saw something not-human.
So, I've not played as him yet, but my Ventrue Anti Raphael has been entertaining to create. I originally skipped making him a LaSombra because I thought he needs to see himself for his vanity and narcissism to work, but I've been told that the lack of reflection won't really stop him.If I retcon him into a LaSombra, does he still need Obfuscate? It might not conceal him and it would create a scene, but if his face was accidentally revealed, Obtenebration 2 can easily mask him and allow him to slip away from the wrong eyes. I would also give him Fortitude instead of Obfuscate for out of clan if I went with this. Currently he is a Ventrue Anti with Obfuscate as an out of clan discipline.
>>62920992>does he still need Obfuscate?Do you want to walk around normal humans?
>>62921008Yes. He would cover his lower face with a mask and claim a deformity. (Because the Archbishop tells him to use that excuse.)
>>62921041>I'm sorry officer, I'm just a humble jain, we wear this so that we don't accidentally hurt any creature, like a fly
>>62921041Well, doing that he will still get way more attention than the average Joe.I personally think Obfuscate is both useful and very fun, so I would stick with it. Here´s an idea: make both version of the character. Then throw a coin to decide witch one you will use. You will probably find out which one you prefer a split second before it lands. Besides, chargen is fun.
>>62921103Go Parsi or go home.
>>62921103>>62920992In addition, if you also want him to have teeth on the top of his head, being a Sikh helps.
>>62920647I don't have real people or full body, or 1-10 scale, but I've got this lying around. It uses D&D numbers though. Close enough, I guess?
>>62921103Sadly he's a Louisianan Catholic and not an Indian.>>62921124Maybe I should. Or I could find someone to playtest both versions with.
>>62921306Allright: 3 to 4 is App 0, 5 to 8 is App 1, 9 to 12 is App 2, 13 to 16 is App 3, 17 to 18 is App 1, 19+ is App 0.>19+ is literally inhuman, and 17-18 is more alien than personI guess using D20 rolling too low or too high is equally bad.>>62921325Yes, but that's what he tells when asked. Also, is he going to be overweight, or is he going to be ripped?
>>62921370He's a ripped hunk. Muscular but not overt.
>>62921448Ok. How severe is the facial disfiguration, and how he got it?In the pic we see something clearly impossible (and pretty useless, as the jaw probably cannot open enough to make use of those rows of daggers). So, the actual character has slashed cheeks and removed skin, or does he has actual dagger-teeth?Does he have them in one row, or several? Are the teeth also similar in the front of the mouth, or just the sides?Also, important, has he removed the totality of his mouth skin? Like, does he has opening to the side but still flapping lips in the middle?What caused this deformation/disfiguration, and when it happened, what was his initial reaction?Shock, disgust, joy, etc?
>>62921535I just use that picture because it's the best unmasked representation of a male Mileena. He basically appears as a male version of Mileena from MKX, lips but weird teeth included.My current idea is that he considered himself homely before, and that was partially why he joined the priesthood. However, something mucked up during the Embrace. When he first saw his new visage, he was actually ecstatic and thought God blessed him with a more attractive face.
>>62921646Hum... but if the cheeks are exposed, how are the lips (the lower lip in particular) still in position and able to move?I ask this because he won't be able to speak comprehensively having paralized lips and massive air escapes in the sides of his mouth.
>>62921677That speaking problem may indeed mean a dice penalization in charisma and manipulation, plus abilities that use those, like socialize, persuassion, etc.It would count as a severe speech impediment.
>>62921677That's a question to ask about Mileena from MK in general. I like to think that the teeth would be thick and covering completely, so when his jaw is closed, you don't have that problem.
>>62921646>he was actually ecstatic and thought God blessed him with a more attractive face.You know, I actually like the "something really weird happened, we don´t know why or how" trope. It works really well in the WoD.
>>62921704Plus I don't play Tzimisce often because I prefer a Social/Mental or Mental/Social combo rather than Mental and Physical. I'm just the sociable kind.
>>62921699But when the jaw is closed you have to speak trough your teeth...
>>62921731Pshaw.True Tzimisce role Metal/Social and vicissitude up the physical attributes. It's important to be sociable as a Tzimisce; it's all about that famous eastern european hospitality.
>>62921731Yeah, and it´s a nice plot hook for your ST to explore in the future.
>>62921755Any options, then? He is a priest and must serve the sermon to his Sabbat packmates somehow.>>62921767Indeed. Especially why he actually adores it.
>>62921782I can't think of any... maybe some kind of... fake jaw?The problem is that he's a social character who cannot barely speak.Vicissitude perhaps? Maybe he has a pack-mate who reconstructs his face before any important speech? Just extending the skin over the sides would give some sort of improvement in not that much time.
>>62922113I want to go with the "supernatural shit doesn't need scientific explaining" bullshit, but that sounds like a cop out.
>>62922165Dumb questions: wouldn´t it be possible to have his lateral teeth so big they still cover this part of the mouth both when closed and open? Have two rows of lateral teeth, they slide one over the other but are so close and big air can only pass through the front of the mouth.
>>62922240It would be like having normal cheeks. Only they are made of teeth, right?
>>62922279Now tell me, brother, how could I resist the temptation? Of course I diablerised her. And now there is this weird lump on my forehead...
>>62922279You just replaced one soul-sucking demon with another.
>>62922165If the grill is the most important part of the character, make a Nosferatu. All kinds of shit just happens to them over the nights following the embrace.
>>62922240I have a history degree and am a law student. Please explain what lateral teeth are and May be provide a pic.
>>62921782How about a throat Mike and speaker set up?
>>62922376Sorry anon, English is not my mother tongue.By lateral teeth I mean the ones that in your picture would be covered by the cheeks.
>>62922416The plan was for that, yes. For them not to leave any holes open.
>>62922443Then just say the remaining lip musculature is obscured by the external row of teeth
>>62922494I've seen MKX Mileena with that get up. Should I try to find am image showing that?
>>62922512Yes, please.Another alternative would be to just say those are external bony protrusions and just look like teeth.
>>62922529So in that alternate, would he still have regular teeth beneath? He could have regular teeth AND the sharp cheek teeth.
>>62922549>So in that alternate, would he still have regular teeth beneath? He could have regular teeth AND the sharp cheek teeth.Yes, that´s how I´m imagining it. No speech problems and would still look cool. Everybody would look at it and assume those are teeth.
>>62922577It adds to the creepiness factor. Permanent Fangs and Distinguishing characteristics, I assume?Rougher image than I wanted, but couldn't find another one I had in mind.
>>62922577It would be the best way to look like your picture, BTW. I mean, look at where the teeth are coming from. It´s way above/bellow where the real teeth should be. The lower ones look like they come from the lower half of his mandible. The upper ones look like they come from the zygomatic bone.
>>62922625Looks like she still has normal(?) cheeks bellow the "teeth". Which are more like bony extrusions. You can clearly see her real teeth inside her cheeks.
>>62922641So he has normal teeth, then. They didn't go anywhere.>>62922666Would they have any use or would they be purely cosmetic?
>>62922730>Would they have any use or would they be purely cosmetic?Well, in this pic: >>62922625it doesn´t really look like they could be used for anything. I would say cosmetic.
>>62922765Eh, all he needs for his strange "I am so pretty" attitude. Shame seeing himself would be harder as a LaSombra, but it seems to fit better than Ventrue Anti.
>>62922804Go with Lasombra, then. He Dominates people to make some drawings of his wonderful face.
>>62922908It works. Obfuscate or Fortitude for his out of Clan?
>>62922970Like I said, I think obfuscate is both more useful and more fun than Fortitude. But if you are going to play a combat-heavy chronicle, Fortitude may be the way to go. Are you using V5 disciplines? V5 Fortitude is actually ok.
>>62923017V20 for me. I like Fortitude to not die, as I am more tuned for social interaction and bring a nerd than a fighter or a brute.
Anyway, why are the LaSombra so fitting? I just find their clan fitting the best for me, besides Ventrue and Setites.
>>62924262I’m partial to the Tremere.
>>62924262It's a racial thing.
>>62924262They're unnecessary, just Ventrue for the Sabbat.
>>62924804That man was a walking chode. He deserved his fate.
>>62924474The clear attraction of the Lasombra versus the indiference the Ventrue cast.
>>62924835>>62924804You'll find a thread in vydia, most likely.
>>62924850The Ventrue may be one of the most bland clans, Brujah being the blandest and the late Ravnos being the most filthy.
>>62924905Only problem is sometimes the clan stereotypes run TOO deep. How likely are Anglo LaSombra, for example?
>>62924821The Ventrue are the result of "we need a The Man clan to contrast with the cool punk Brujah!".Neither clan really makes sense if not as an opposition of the other.The Toreador too were made to oppose the Nosferatu.The Lasombra are better at being Ventrue than the Ventrue and are decadent and sybarite versus the oversexed, drunk and flamboyant Toreador, while being as evil as the Tzimisce.Contrast
>>62924986See? It doesn't work at all. It just kicks you in the teeth, like a Brazilian Assamite.Indeed, the origin, personality and history of the Lasombra are too ingrained on the (partly fictional) XVI and XVII century Spain, with all the victories and defeats, and the manner to react to those.The Ventrue cannot be more Anglo-German even if they tried, while the Toreador, originally French, are not as english as the Ventrue (the standard "white young rich degenerate" template that is so odious but prevalent).
>>62925031Sorry, by "not as english" I meant "more like the American upper class".
>>62925058For example, Paris Hilton is the textbook Toreador.A bland socialité of old money family know for sex tapes, scandals, and then just for being famous. Vapid and irrelevant, yet still was the center of the universe for a few years.That's a Toreador.
>>62925072>a Toreador with boobs and using Presence 5fixed
>>62924905In V5 every clan of the Anarchs (Brujah, Gangrel, Thin-Blood, Caitiff) has become the Brujah. Even the Tremere Anarchs are "Brujah with Magic".The Camarilla is now so Ventrue that the Malkavian are politely ignored for most of the Camarilla book.Anarch vs Camarilla = Brujah vs Ventrue = Multicultural 99%s vs White 1%sYep, that's the game now.
>>62925194V5 is bland as fuck.
>>62925194And for their little "Us vs Them" they had to remove the Sabbat, in the same way that they had to remove the Elders because then the "Anarch vs Camarilla" scenario becomes utterly ridiculous.The whole "new metaplot" is manufactured just to be an excuse of "the poor masses vs the rich elite".Remember, this is a game about VAMPIRES.
>>62925275I just want to drive future cars, I don't care about class conflict
>>62925313Well that's too bad, because those future cars are made with chinese slave labor and imported thanks to Capitalism which makes you an EBIL WESTERNER.Do you love living in these interesting times?
>>62925334And this turned me into a borderline fascist.
>>62925334Can we go back to 2000? And kill Bin Laden 11 years early?
>>62925363Imagine the world if 9/11 never happened. No, it's too much to dream...
>>62925363Sorry, the 90s are over. We had our chance, we blew it.This is the reality now.
>>62925382Yep, that's one the major writers of the three V5 books, and also the creator of Rudi.
>>62925382Yikes and cringedpilled.
>>62925382And I just lost all respect for this man.
>>62925382>For the recordFor the record it is.
>>62925072Paris Hilton parlayed attention from a sex tape into a copyrighted brand with product lines that she promotes by getting drug convictions while on promotional tours for her product lines. She could be a Setite, too, if she wrote a self-help book.
>>62925430>>62925431>>62925449>>62925483He was hurt because... well read the pic.You CANNOT make this up.
>>62925507>The Gentileman Goymer>Gentileman>GoymerHahaha still I don't know who the fuck came up with that, because honestly I haven't seen it.But whoever it is deserves the Internet for a day.
>>62925507>goy is the worst insultFucking wussy.
>>62925507You know, that's immature, but that just means he let it get to him.
>>62925557It is immature, but it's just a good fucking joke.I mean when I saw this earlier I had an honest good laugh.It's not even an insult.
>>62925589My point is still that he's thin-skinned as fuck.
>>62925557He LARPed as Zettler, it kinda makes sense the implication would tilt him.
>>62925632After writting his share of V5 he could have larped as Himmler for two weeks never breaking character and still everyone would know he's a SJW.
>>62924262Stop writing it that way. There is no capital S
>>62925866Well, that'S true, but Some people have Strange preferenceS when it comeS to the naming cuStomS of characterS and/or groupS.
>>62925866It means "the shadow" in Spanish. It's two words, and I speak Spanish, so not capitalizing the S seems odd.
>>62925973Don't you mean StareS?>>62925959How well do you speak Spanish?I know no native spanish speaker that capitalizes the Lasombra S.If we did, we would have to start calling the Toreador their true name, Torero, or Matador if you feel kinky.Toreador is poorly heard word that doesn't exist in Spanish at all. Probably a translator's mistake.
>>62926045>To explain, Toreador vs Torero is like Policer vs Police Officer; you get the meaning, but its a linguistic atrocity
>>62926045>>62926085Nobody is here for a linguistic class tho.
>>62925382>Alt-RightIt's all so tiresome
>>62925507>I can withstand name calling, but...Clearly not, as evidenced.
Now the quest to call him the Gentlemen Goymer to his face begins. And remember, screen caps or it didn't happen.
>>62926646Funny how it's more fun to troll the developers of this ass game than it is to even play/read their late term abortion of a game.That said, I've never terribly cared for Dawkins. He always seems too smug and it's "his Canon or the highway" with everything. From his introduction to the clans YouTube videos to his beckett jyhad diary.It's all very tiresome out of him
>>62926646Gentileman, not gentleman don't forget.
>>62927145>The Gentileman Goymerguys I love you
>>62925507Did that really happen though? Searching "gentileman goymer" on the archive gets me three results. Two in this thread and another in the previous one. All of them after a pic with his comment has been posted.
Congratulations tg, it’s front page
I think that the name "White Wolf" is racist and not inclusive enough.It should be called "Rainbow Wolf" or "Wolf of Color".
>>62928302AMD wolf is too predator like, it should be a more tragic animal. Like the dodo.Yes, Subsume Dodo is the new name
So, you know how the character sheet has an option to include a drawing/ sketch of your character.What do you do about that? I know some people like to find pics of people online that match their idea and use those while others do draw them, to varying degrees of success, others just ignore it entirely.So, I’m curios how you deal with that.
>>62928368>Rainbow Dodosounds well
>just wanted to read and play V5>keep reading these generals>keep seeing cringy shit about it>V5 feels ruined for me before I even read it.I'm never going to fucking run a Vampire game at this rate.
>>62918989Elders were there to watch computers arise form cruede mechanical calculators. Average elder should be the one giving lectures about computers.
>>62929039There still is the older line, but yeah the whole thing is tainted now.
Lefty and liberal people on twitter are mad about this, based WW alienating every possible ideological group
>>62929501Can someone explain to me why nuWW is so obsessed with Islam?
>>62929703Because OPP is based in Sweden.
>>62929727Onyx path is PA and some are in LA. WW is Sweden thou.
>>62929703the big boss of nuWW is an ethnic Swedish guy converted to Islam.>>62929501source please
>>62928287Look at all those soul sluts.
>>62929935Are you serious? I didn’t know Tobias was a muslim.
>>62929935>ethnic Swedish guy converted to Islam.Isn't magic and horror unclean?
>>62929703>>62929703Because it's over a billion people who have been emigrating to European countries and they're relevant to modern society? Because the Assamites joined the Cam?Because Ur-Shulgi rules from his secret mountain in Iran and is the scariest thing that's awake right now and has a war with Islam?
>>62930018Crazy Christians in the US burn Harry Potter books. Doesn't mean that Christians aren't the majority wod playerbase. Crazy is crazy.
>>62930086To be fair, the rest of HP books weren't great.
>>62930063>the Assamites joined the Cam?Wait, wut. Why would anyone let the assmites in?
>>62930137I know, right? At least Setites make a little sense if you tilt your head and squint your eyes.
>>62930188To be fair, setites are mostly just evil, and treacherous. Were as Assmites are getting off on eating people, are treacherous, and are a danger to the power struggle.
>>62930336I think the setites are way more interesting than the assmites.
>>62929935>source pleaseIt's in the Camarilla book, I saw the screenshot on twitter so idk the page number
>>62930521 The Gangrel and the Brujah left en masse between 2000 and 2010.Theo Muthafuckin Bell blew Hardestadt's head off and most of the clan blames Ventrue machinations for attracting the attention of the NSA. The Cam needed the muscle. The Setites offered to join after the Vienna Chantry got True Faith/ Prime 3 drone striked. The treaty signing between Cam/Setites got blown up, a justicar died. The Cam backed out and then signed on the Assamites who are on the outs with Ur-Shulgi. Allamut is a goddamn horror show and there is a huge exodus from the Mideast by Assamites. The Setites said fuck you and aligned themselves with the Anarch free states. They call themselves the Ministry now.
I will just leave this here.https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/remove-chechnya-chapter-from-the-camarilla
>>62930662I wanted the tweets
>>62930716Why would anyone willingly work with the Setites? Assamites are good at being assassins, so whatever, but Setites just lie and scheme for shits and giggles
>>62930716Makes more sense to let Lasombra in or the old Tzimisce, or hell Giovanni.
>>62930751I gotchahttps://twitter.com/Ettin64/status/1060494957994098689https://twitter.com/oakthorne/status/1060622746084769792It does seem pretty tasteless, you'd think they'd have learned from Berlin by Night but oh well. Also kek at them making an actual Chechen strongman a vampire. Is that guy on the Discord with Goymer still around? Maybe we could ask him about this.
>>62930867Yeah, but assmites are a cult of soul eaters, who will eat you, and are evil, and will never work with Tremere. i.e. The guys who used to be your back bone.
>>62930738Hahaha!Rainbow Wolf sure knows how to get a new fanbase!
>>62930895>never work with TremereI don't see a downside to not working with those kikes
>>62930920Because if tremere leaves, they will make an army of the night out of people, and take over again.
>>62930894Why am I not surprised that both of them have pronouns in their bio?
>>62930947Send the Assamites after them and the problem solves itself. They get a meal and the Tremere are dealt with. Or, best case scenario, they wipe each other out.
>>62930873Reminder that Montano has been on the Inner Circle of the Camarilla since its formation.
>>62930919I love watching all the SJW getting mad at nuWW. Fuck, I may even sign the damn petition.
>>62930989Tremere fledglings already leashed the Assamites for over 500 years once
>>62930989The assmites gunning for Tremere, yeah like that worked out soo well last time.
>>62931006>Tries to appeal SJWs>get bashed by SJWsGet woke go broke
>>62930989Yeah, implying I'd rather work with the deranged but fearful Tremere rather with the Chad "Imma brown I imma gonna cuckill you and eat your soul".Thaumaturgy beats "being silent and good with blades".>In the real Vampire the Masquerade I mean, not Mr. Gentileman's Fanfiction
>>62931325I'd rather not* work
>>62929501I'm confused as to why there's so much stuff on chechnya in the camarilla book, isn't that entire area Sabbat/Ancillae/former soviet werewolves?
>>62929501They're so retarded. Put in perspective with the Gentileman's exchange from yesterday it's hilarious
>>62931574I really don't understand them
>>62931574Explain, Anon. >>62931632They're trying to make rules for a new culture of dignity and respect. They often go full Victorian England when they are setting up these new rules. It's just human nature, dude.
>>62931831>vampires threat humans like cows in VtM>dignity and respectwrong game dude, VtM is about abusive relationship and cynical political schemes, the opposite of "respect".
>>62931831He said he wouldn't come to /tg/ because someone here (allegedly) called him the "Gentileman Goymer" and defended Rudi, then said the alt-right couldn't play VtM. I guess somehow the gay vampire concentration camps aren't as ~problematic~ as /tg/ shitposters.
>>62932063I think that gay vampire concentration camps are just dumb as writing "alt-right", "feminist" and other stuff like that.I was waiting the nazis of Illinois.
>>62932163>https://twitter.com/Ettin64/status/1060494957994098689I find the funniest thing that SJWs are triggered by this. There are all kind of tragedies used in VtM metaplot and they didn't care at all but if you take something like this it is the end of the world.They are truly disgusting people.
>>62932210Didn't they used to have a rule, where nothing that happened within 100 years would be blamed on the vampires. i.e. the Holocaust was all humans, not something the vampires did.
>>62929501Oh, my. Who could ever guess trying to side with a deeply homophobic religion AND the gays could lead to troubles.
>>62932261The fact that they took a giant shit on all of Chechnya and yet still see themselves as multicultural good guys is hilarious.
>>62932277Works for Rudi, he's the man *sploosh*
>>62932312I think Ramzan still posts on Instagram. Someone really should send him the pics.
>>62932317Funny, it doesn´t work for real life Rudi, who has hide his desires from his family.
>>62932312>>62932328it's funny that nobody complained about how they insulted 1.3 milions of people and their republic.
>>62932344Well yeah, there's tons of gay muslims hiding in fear of their religion peace. Consider that in fundamentalist places they're not allowed to interact or even see how a woman looks like. Imagine spending your whole teenage years with nothing but dudes and goats around you. They're probably praising Allah for the miracle of internet porn. But yeah Rudi would've been shunned like a leper in the best of cases.
>>62931831Check discordanon's screencaps last thread, we had an indirect q&a with Dawkins. Turns out despite being somewhat chill, the guy's also full on ivory tower not seeing how rudi's army's writing is cringe, the v5 metaplot is bad and full of plothole, and 'alt-righters' is a poor scapegoat to justify lazy writing and self-inserting special snowflake OC.
>>62932448>>62932210>>62932163This is gold.
>>62932448I... What? I know holden's a piece of shit, but how does he arrives to the conclusion that gamergaters (is that even still a thing?) are buying a ttrpg full of sjw?
>>62932476Nobody wants to be associated with that piece of garbage.
>>62932476Redpill me on Holden
>>62932476Let me help, you see in Left speak "GamerGater" = Gamer/Other none Cuck.
>>6293252910/10At this rate even the tremerefags and the tzifags will unite in hate.
>>62932529He was the lead dev for Exalted v3, did jack shit for years, get friends to do awful art, then went back to do jack shit.It lasted for so long that even RichT got fed up with it and removed him and his friend from Exalted 3 and put others lead devs on the game line.Since then, Holden (who's an attention whore) claims he's been unjustly treated, but the only person friendly with him among the OPP circles is Olivia Hill (previously David Hill) a paranoid tranny that also got booted by RichT for being an unstable paranoid ball of hate.That's the gist of it, for details ask /exg/ they probably have way more details.
Discordanon here. Matthew did not write the Chechenya part. He thinks it was a bad idea.
>>62932611Tell him "you aight whitegoy"
>>62932611He nonetheless thought Rudi was one, since he wrote him.>>62932564Ah yes, I forgot to translate it in English.
Who is the most triggered categories by V5?>Whores of Babylon>Tremerefags>Setitefags>Alt-Right>Queers>Average normal guys
>>62932712You left out>grognardsBased on the Onyx Path Forums it's definitely that one
>>62932712Better question: who is not triggered by this shit?Other than the writers.
>>62932712Everyone is. Why are modern devs pandering to nit-picky mentality ill people? If they wanted a new consumer group then they should have done ut slowly.
Honest question: does everybody usually takes Additional Discipline? Which discipline do you usually choose?
>>62932937Potence when I play a mostly social orientated character.
>>62932937One Dot of SerpentisNote pass to the DM when I'm using it. Other PCs have no idea I'm raising gay for Set.
>>62933079Which clan is your PC?
>>62932588Tremere and Tzismice players ARE ALREADY unuted in the hatred of V5.>mfw the Tzimisce rebuild the Tremere Vienna Chantry alonside the Tremere by using vicissitude and thaumaturgy on anarch still living bodies
>>62932611How is V5 selling so good if both the right and the left seem to hate it equally?>"We sell only to the midlle madlul"
>>62933370>The most hyped rpg of the year is sellingI have no idea.Will the line keep its sells?
>>62932588I want futanari tzimisce qties
>>62932937I dont take add disci merit. I'm not playing a fucking blooline.When I pick out of clan disciplines I pay the full price like any self-respecting, God fearing vamp should.>If you play at Ancilla level without Dominate 3 (but no more) and at least Obfuscate 2 (ideally 4) you are doing it WRONG
Rudi's breaking the Masquerade!
>>62933315>>62933435So, this time the Tremere and Tzimisce are getting together to make futas and catgirls?Better than bloodbrothers, I guess.
>>62933449>When I pick out of clan disciplines I pay the full price like any self-respecting, God fearing vamp should.Come on, anon, all the cool kids are getting the additional discipline merit. It´s even better if you get a rare discipline.
>>62933495https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWkQ7S2Cf2M100% faithfull to Sweden
>>62929039Just run V20 then, or an even earlier edition if that's what tickles your fancy!That's what all the sane people are doing.
>>62933530>how you feel after buying V5 books
>>629329371 point in dominate is always usefull if you don't have as a starter
>>62933538Blood Catgirl Sisters?>Breed from actual cats and girls?The Tremere-Tzimisce steamroller cannot be stopped.
>>62933592Now all we need is to steal some necromancy...
>>62933615Giovanni, no! Back! Bad boy!
>>62933619It´s cool, anon, we need the Gios alive so we learn this shit.Unless we can find a ritual to fix that...
>>62933592>>62933538>>62933315Now I am (catgirls aside) honestly considering a Tzimisce-Tremere alliance.After all, they are literally Cland and Bloodline, they share regional origins (both are central and eastern Europe), both are insane tyrants, both can into blood sorcery, and both manipulate reality and flesh.The Tzimisce and Tremere are also sick of playing second fidddle to the Lasombra and Ventrue respectively.I'm seeing it. A new sect breaks from both Camarilla and Sabbat. Their hatred binds them so closely together that turns into twiste love.I need a name for the new Sect.
>>62933681>Giovanni can join too because these guys are literally the only ones who can save them from the Harbringers/Cappadociansand neither Camm nor Sabb will ever accept them.Fuck, now the Tzimisce-Tremere alliance has even a pet clan. Now this is a proper Sect alreayd.>Of course the whole Giovanni leadership needs to be purged badly
>>62933681>>62933706Such sect would be a magical powerhouse.And weirdness factory.
>>62933495Poe's law. I can no longer tell if it's satire or not.
>>62933615I'm sure the Harbingers would be happy to help.
>>62933681>I need a name for the new Sect.The Rod and the Dragon
>>62933796Do we ally with the Gios or with the Harbingers... tough question. I´m leaning Harbingers. What do you think?
>>62933681>>62933706>>62933712>>62933744As the chaos caused by the Anarch revolts and the Second Inquisition kept destroying the traditional order, new problems arose.The weakened Tremere Pyramid was not going to survive long if the Assamites were to join the Camarilla. They were going to be replaced, and they full well knew it, now that they had lost the worldwide coordination of Vienna (and the very fear and sensation of omnipotence the name used to cause among the Kindred).On the other hand of the Sectarian Spectrum, the Tzimisce had no intention of leaving their ancestral lands or they newly conquered territories to pursue a senseless head-hunt in the Middle East, seeing themselves as the elite, not expendable pawns to be thrown into Assamite’s maws. Finally, the relentless assault against the Giovanni by those who were thought to be extinct was making the younger half of the Clan desperate, seeing how their elders were forcing them to the frontline while they searched in vain for a way to escape.The inevitable happened, and after several years of meetings and failed attempts, representatives of the majority of the Clan Tremere, Clan Tzimisce and Clan Giovanni signed the Supremacy Concordat the night of the Ninth of November, 2018.A new age of vengeance had dawned upon the world.
>>62933842The Harbingers are really hateful and pissed off, so they would be quite a good fit I guess.Giovanni have much more weight on kine affairs, though if we're going with V5's fanfics it's not a good thing with the 2nd Inq.
>>62933796>>62933842The Harbringers want to die bringing the Giovanni down. THey explicitly said so. They are not here to stay, the are here to drag their enemies to Hell with them.
>>62918343Serious but slightly silly question; could the vampires from masquerade/requiem survive in Ravenloft? I've been wondering for some time how it might work if the clans were direct-lifted and dropped into a dark/serious fantasy world such as ravenloft, forgotten realms or dare I say it Warhammer fantasy.
>>62933898>Supremacy ConcordatI like that.
>>62933898This is my new canon and I'm happy if you share it for your own chronicles.>Using Revised/V20 rules of course
>>62933898Nice. I'll just had the Pemascine Giovanni leading the split.
>>62934021That's actually a good idea.They could become the new elders of the clan Giovanni (after chomping on the other elders).
>>62933914>The Harbringers want to die bringing the Giovanni down. THey explicitly said so. They are not here to stay, the are here to drag their enemies to Hell with them.Jesus, those freaks gotta chill down.
>>62934021Wait, refresh me here; aren't there only about 20-50 Giovanni left in the world? I remember reading in oWod that the baali salubri and I believe Giovanni are at the 'nearly-extinct' census-numbers.
>>62934062I mean, they spent one thousand years in the Underworld.Far longer that they spent on Earth. Those guys minds are simply... gone. They have more in common with Specters than with Vampires.
>>62934067No, the Giovanni are a full clan.We only heard about initial purges, but they were never in "oh you just got Ravnos'd" levels.
>>62934067That´s just what we want the world to believe anon. We are the Conspiracy.
>>62934067>BaaliAlways unknown levels, went to hiding after the baali wars so they can be either really few or a good number.>SalubriHealers are few and scarce, Warriors have a revival in the Sabbat as the Salubri Antitribu, and Watchers/Wu Zao are in Asia so who knows/cares>GiovanniThey're quite fine. Only a few words in V5 that say they're in bad shape, but they're obviously talking of the old clan Giovanni and not the ones in the Concordat
>>62934089But the baali and the salubri are in fact at the extinct / nearly-extinct level? Or that is at least what we are lead to believe? I seem to very faintly remember being told that Giovanni were effectively unplayable due to the fact that there are very few of them or something along those lines. It may have been because it was one of my first characters.
>>62934145They were never scarce to the point of being unplayable, you've probably been bamboozled because you were a new players and your ST judged it simpler than having to introduce an Independent at your table.
>>62934021>>62934061It is well known that the Premascine, among the Giovanni, ever resentful of the main clan’s betrayal and the humiliations they had to endure in order to survive, shepherded their young into this new deal. They acted by inciting them to open rebellion first subtly, then openly leading them. After filling their bodies with the blood of the other elder Giovanni, now the clan had a new leadership, ancient and ruthless, to support its own weight in the new Supremacy Concordat.>Added to Canon
>>62934178Probably easier for me anyway, at that time I had only played 5-6 characters in oWoD period.
>>62934185This.Also, can we get them to be a little bit less incest-prone?
>>62934185Amen to that.
>>62934145Baali could be any number really, but they are still probably the most numerous bloodline. If this is hard to believe, consider that the Baali were once a full clan with numbers similar to all the others.The Salubri seem to only exist in any real amount in the Sabbat, and that could mean a hundred of these guys.It is not implied that they are only a few dozen of them, but at the same time it is clear that they are just a debilitated bloodline trying to increase their presence.
>>62934225I guess that will come naturally, now that they are in a proper sect with other clans.Besides, why fuck your deformed cousin when you can comission the Tzimisce for a qt 99 grill in exchange for a few ghostslaves?
>>62934259"Fuck, John Giovanni´s been fucking that catgirl in my lab again!"
>>62934225Probably since the Premascine will probably reform a lot of the old Clan's rulings and hierarchy. Also being part of a Sect with Other Clans as Anon said.
>>62934290"But he's given me the soul of Billy Ventrue to play with, so I guess it's okay".
>>62934145Was it maybe that there were very few of them operating independently and cooperating outside of the family? Because they're more aggressively insular than Tremere ever were.
Fuck, the Concordat's missing the Salubri qts. Outside of that, I really like that idea. How does one publish something on the Storyteller Vault? I'm far from having the time or ability to write it in a decent way, but it could be fun.
>>62934358That could be it too, but this was so long back (oWoD had been out for around 2 years at this time) I really don't remember the specifics, but I ended up never trying to use a Giovanni again so I never found out.
>>62934358>more aggressively insular than Tremere ever were.Now that I think about it... two insular clans, plus a clan obsessed with privacy. The Concordat is going to be very social, is it?
>>62934396Probably as much as us.
>>62934381>Fuck, the Concordat's missing the Salubri qts.We have a few in the Chantry´s basement, if you want...
>>62934396The Giovanni are there to be the face and the money-maker. The Tremere are there to conspire and destroy threats. The Tzimisce can play counter-intelligence and anti-spionage like there is no tomorrow.>>62934381No idea. Never done so.
>>62934469How would they answer non vampire threats such as werewolf incursions or the schemes and machinations of mummies or demons? Though I never played as either mummies or demons I was under the impression that they are both insanely overly powerful (compared to most other spheres).
>>62934526By copious amount of slaved-wraith magic and even more copious amount of Thaumaturgy, Koldunism, War Ghouls and Gargoyles?Who's going to tell them shit? Like, go is going to go out of their way to antagonize them?
>>62934381We can make you all Salubri qts you waken. It takes a good Tzimisce half an hour of work to transplat someone's eye into someone elses forehead and then connect it to the brain.
>>62918343Anyone got a tracking of clans from best to worst?
>>62934608"You ever wanted" has somehow mutated into "you waken".The vicissitude is going strong already.
>>62934619Concordat clans >>> Lasombra > Ventrue> Malkavians >Setites >>> all the rest
>>62934608Sup, Tzi bro, I have this lump on my forehead...
>>62934647Pretty much. Some fine tunning may be requiered, but the Supremacy Concordat reigns sovereign.
>>62934669You no longer have to remove it now, why not explore the mysteries of the Soul?
>>62934669You mean this beautiful baby-blue eye? You are welcome anon.
>>62934381V5 content is not allowed on the ST Vault it seems. It might still be fun to try to do a proper file for the Supremacy Concordat one day.
>>62934647>>62934647>Supremacy ConcordatNeonate here, what's this?
>>62934692Because the only Valeren power I like is the Watcher´s level 1 Valeren. The rest sucks.
>>62934720Here:>>62933898>>62934185Also, tell us your clan, neonate.
>>62934718Hahahaha! They literally don't want proper fanfiction to compete with the official weak fanfiction.This is gold.
>>62934769>https://storytellersvault.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000956751-Content-Guidelines>You can use 1st, 2nd, 3rd (“revised”), and 4th (“V20”) editions of Vampire: The Masquerade, Werewolf: The Apocalypse and Mage: The Ascension.Yeah, everything's fair game except V5. They're so confident in it they don't allow fanfiction ffs.
>>62934574I'm not sure but it's inevitable that at some point in time, even if it's hundreds of years later, demons or mummies may cross one or more members of it. I only encountered mummies twice and never encountered demons, but the way it was presented to me sounded to me like Mummies are OP to the point that, unless you have some specific defenses against them, you just lost, period. The one time I got killed by one it was like "The mummy finishes the magical magic, you just died, period." No dice rolls, no anything, just instant character death, before I even got my turn to even try to do anything (which pissed me off but as powerful as they seemed at the time, it made sense).
>>62934853Then that would be an issue to every single Sect and Clan, not just the Concordat, right?
>>62934870Most likely but I seem to remember that there are relatively few mummies in the world. Of course, if what I saw is true and every one of them is a level 86 billion mage, 1 is to many of them.
>>62934853>Also, that was your ST just fucking you over; neither Demons nor Mummies are invincible, not by a long shot. "Very strong creatures" gets countered by "12 kolduns, 12 thaumaturges, 12 necromancers lashing out their pets, magic and themselves at you simultaneosly".
>>62934930I must confess that it's been so long since I played (numerous years), that I can't remember what kolduns are.
>>62934957Tzimisce Blood Mages.
>>62934975But wait a minute, maybe I'm mistaken (it has been YEARS since I even read a page of any of the core books) but doesn't some magic come from demons? And if that's the case, couldn't said demon just say "Your spell doesn't work" boom, nullified?
>>62935002Nope. It "may" come from ONE Demon, who happens to be Kupala, who happens to be one of a kind. Certainly not "a demon".But most importantly, like any other vampiric "magic", it comes from the Vitae. It's "powered by the Blood of Caine".Vampires don't need to "borrow" the source for their powers elsewhere. Their blood IS a source of power.>That's why its called "Blood Magic"...
>>62935048Feels like a lot of my gripes with the system and world are mostly from barely-remembered and mis-remembered system-lore and system-rules.
Fellow Concordat members:there is this cute Kiasyd girl I know, so i was wondering... Are we allowing bloodlines into our sect?
A thing that I really don't understand, how it is possible that a game based on cynic political treacheries, where everybody and every factions are lieing about their real purpose, where everything is another masquerade inside another masquerade, like chinese boxes, became a refuge for people in search of a safezone where they can feel protected by a nightwatch made of superheroes?What the fuck is supposed to be V5, twilight?VtM should have given the cultural resources to watch reality in another light.Does not exist a political movement that defend the "rights of women, muslim, blacks, latinos, put whatever minority virtual or real". It is a fucking lie built to manipulate you, what the fuck, it is the core of VtM original game. Even the Anarch are a lie at their core.
>>62935115As long as they accept the Supremacy of the Clans, they can be... auxilia.Like the Roman ones.The very best ones can be Auxilia Palatina.Full members? No. Protected allies? Yes.
>>62935115If they swear fealty to the Concordat, I don't see why not.
>>62935082Eh, after a few years its only normal not to be right into it.>>62935141I have my theory that V5 is supposed to fail. It is intentionally designed to alienaty as much of the fanbase and as many people as possible.But, what's the end goal? I don't know, and thus, it's only a theory.
>>62935198My experiences (mostly online) created an environment in which I literally hated almost everyone and was planning death and mayhem on almost everyone I met. I ended up taking the 'trust no one' angle so far that I killed off more than half the player group's characters in the course of one story, either by discretely guaranteeing dice failure by ways and means or by just killing them outright towards the end. The crowning complete fuck up of all was NONE of the player characters were conspiring against me, I just couldn't figure out who was, ever, because all the clues were so oblique you'd need to be sherlock fucking holmes to even have a chance of figuring it out, so it all ended in a colossal 'fuck you get the fuck out' situation, after which I never bothered to find another group. I had been fucked over and fucked up so many times I was at the 'open hostility towards nearly everyone' phase of 'I HATE YOU' feelings.
>>62935198No, I think it was made for what are called "SJW" by people that do not understand them but tried so hard to do so.What I don't get is the audience. How can be possible that the audience is formed by a bunch of... of... manchild? It is not the correct term, by... people that want to play a superhero game?I don't know. It just shocks me.
>>62935284sjws are mostly complete garbage and I wouldn't piss on them if they were burning to death in napalm. If there was one group I wish would just get killed by a conglomeration of extremely violent horrible beings, it's sjws.
>>62935279Well, that's certainly a different issue, but one unrelated to Vampire.As long as you ignore the SJWs and V5 apologists you can find decent people (as decent as anyone can be) here.However, physically talking and dealing with people cannot be replicated with messages online. What can be a friendly banter in person becomes a flamewar online.'tis a pitty, but it is what it is.
>>62935419I don't know what V5 is, and rain shit on sjws daily, so that sounds fine to me. I don't hate the game per se (though there are sections I would deeply change), I just dislike the whole cynical extremely byzantine treachery-base cultural background of vampires. It makes me paranoid.
>>62935315I would piss on a sjw to stop him from being burnt alive.Then I would make sure that everyone knows that this SJW has been saved by the likes of me.That's the worst thing you can do to them.
>>62935469I don't know if that's worse than skinning them alive and then hanging their bodies upside down from the eves of their own houses, but yeah, saving them and forcing them to acknowledge it (they never will) is certainly right up there on the 'horrible things I wish would happen to sjws' list.
>>62935461V5 is the new ultra SJW mentally deranged version.Vampires are like that, however. The treachery/betrayal aspect can be played up or down, but that's like saying "I don't like the court of Versailles, or of Constantinople, because they are a bunch of traitorous scum". You would be right, but it's something inimical to the human condition among those who have power.
>>62935504And this is why I would never make it at Versailles or Constantinople. I would end up killing or otherwise severely fucking up people over the -possibility- of being betrayed by them.
>>62935504And by severely fucking up I mean chopped off limbs, burned alive family members, spines torn out, children's heads bashed against the floor in front of their parents, the lot of it.
V5's not out for half a year and we already added the Concordat and Christiano to it.I wonder how it'll look like in a year.
>>62935461>paranoidthat is the purpose of VtM
So by /VG/ cannon, the Sabbat is only Lasombra and the antitribus now? What will happen with the Old Clan? Will the surviving Tremere antitribu join the Concordat? And what about the few (if they even still around) Ravnos?
Autism, fresh out off the press.Good to negate any “reply or mother will die” posts or anything considered a cursed post
>>62935788>sacrifice herself for the greater good>eats soulsNice try, demonic slut.
>>62935788Thanks Salubri, but with the Concordat forming you're pretty much doomed.Also, taking a break from my normal shitposting, people seem to think that diableriezation feels good. I figured that having your soul destroyed would be pretty terrible, but is it just like any other form of blood drinking?
What's the setting for V5?Is it a post-Gehenna event? What happened to all the elder kindred? What about the thin-bloods? What's going on with organizations like the Camarilla and the Sabbat?
>>62935950there was no Gehenna, but there was a "Gehenna war" (Basically the wars in Iraq and such) where Sabbat was almost destroyed and scattered, there is a second Inquisition formed pretty much by all intelligence + Leopold society that killed most of the elders.
>>62935942I don't think the Concordat's going hard on them. The Tzimisce have protected them from times to times, the Tremere don't need to enforce their place as a major clan anymore, and the new Giovanni don't seem to care.
>bored, open /v/'s catalog in case there's comfy thread hidden somewhere or some fun>see thisLet's try not to laugh.
>>62934469>The Giovanni are there to be the face and the money-maker. Mafia + magic.>The Tremere are there to conspire and destroy threats. (((Conspiracy))) + magic.>The Tzimisce can play counter-intelligence and anti-spionage like there is no tomorrow.James Bond villains + magic.Concordat is comfy as fuck.
>>62936272>Let's try not to laugh.Welp, I've failed.
>>62936272>Let's try not to laughToo late.
>>62936272Someone got fired. Again?Well, the random purges are a very lefty thing, so I'm not surprised.
>>62936272>undergoing some significant transitionsWell at least they're closer to the new fanbase
>>62936481>working for a sjw bunch of "brilliant" peoplewhat can go wrong?
>>62936511Haha!>>62936272So who's being promoted to customer now? Any news on that?
>>62936481But the real question is: can they pass?
>>62936272I wish we could speak with the guy they choose as scapegoat, on Discord.I wonder if he has something different to say than the Gentileman Goymer.Behind fired and publicly blamed for... whatever the issue is here... tends to make people talkative.
>>62936635Do we even know who wrote this part?
>>62936629Pass, like what?Suck up to the SJW so that they "forgive" them?
>>62936656It was a joke. A shitty one. Sorry, I have no sense of humour.
>>62936654Nope, but Gentile said vehemently that it was not him. May be in one of the quotes of this thread.
https://utilitymuffinlabs.com/25-years-of-vampire-the-masquerade/GG just released an interview.
>>62936885>Two hours of aspergingIf someone finds a transcription of the interesting/more ridiculous than usual parts, please post.Also, new thread?