A Fucking Gun edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>97133257>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread question:What holidays do you suppose /yourdudes/ are celebrating in the Mortal Realms?
Rumours are circulating that Games Workshop are quietly abandoning Warhammer: Age of Sigmar.
>>97141276>>97131570Is this a bot?
>>97141276People liked the idea of Age of Sigmar more so than Age of Sigmar itself.
>>97141308Even a stopped bot is right twice times per 24 hours earth period (ie. "day")
>>97141308this shit wouldnt be half as bad as it is if the mods actually did their fucking job. this shits been going on for weeks at this point
>>97141352Posting leaks isn't against the rules James
>>97141352The second a shitposter starts ban evading the jannies give up completely on trying to stop them. After a shitstirrer ban evades once, they will never be banned again and the jannies will ignore every report made against them unless the janny themselves has a personal problem with the poster(read: said something they disagree on once)
Rumors are floating around that AoS is gonna end next year with the Super Duper End Times Plus Ultra and then we're getting Warhammer: The New Worlds which uses pentagonal bases so everything's gotta be rebased again
>>97141417There will be another one of these posts in 30minutes. Calling it now
>>97141323abso-fucking-lutely not. $255.00 is an absurd price to pay for something you'll be lucky to get 3 sessions out of, and that's assuming you even have people at an LGS/board game club near you willing to play. They're charging premium prices for awful ugly heroes and a shitty book binder for the maps that will fall apart after one session. They couldn't even seperate out the maps or pay 25 cents extra for metal binding. Wealthy board game playing nurgle enjoyers are not a big enough niche to carry this, and it's going to have to drop price to move the rest of their stock. If the sylvaneth christmas box couldn't sell, this fucking thing won't either.
>>97141441Here's how we can still save Darkwater>
>>97141441>that's assuming you even have people at an LGS/board game club near you willing to playCrazy how the concept of friends is so alien to you that you completely excluded it from your bait lmfao
>>97141271>TQI'd like to think the Kharadron have their own version of Oktoberfest
>>97141448willing to play dipshit, most of the people at my LGS give two fucks about board games
>>97141450I feel like Kharadron booze is weakshit (dwarf wise) because most of them operate heavy machinery constantly and at high altitudes and if it was actually potent there's be a lot more dorfs missing limbs or just straight up splattered on the ground
>>97141452You could consider making friends outside of your lgs who want to play stuff with you because they like your company.
>>97141508Don't reply to the flopbot
>>97141271>TqI had zero ideas until I saw this anon>>97141450>I'd like to think the Kharadron have their own version of OktoberfestGrotoberfest feels fitting for a group of grots obsessed with brewing ale. Green mushroom beers. Squigwurst. Betting on lady giant arm wrestling matches. Grots wearing funny hats for no reason they understand besides everyone else is doing it.
>>97141459Their booze might be weak in DWARF terms, but its still going to be strong as shit for humans and elves. You forget that warhammer dwarfs are notoriously heavy drinkers.
>>97141459You're not suppozed to drink on the job retard. You finish the grind and then go get hammered
>>97141271Bloodmass, Khaine's day, Morathi Madness
How are your projects going anons
>>97141448Hold up. Why would you ever subject your friends to such a miserable gaming experience as a modern WHQ game? These are boxes for people who want a whack of new miniatures in one shot, the game part of the box is not worth a single minute of your time.I tried one session of Silver Tower (bad game), briefly thought about initiating a Blackstone Fortress night (but I'm not that disrespectful) and immediately shelved Cursed City after turning out the sprues (the proper call).If you're tricking your friends into WHQ gameplay you're an awful friend. Literally any other type of gaming would be superior: play an actual boardgame, or play the other GW game(s) you play.
Unironically what are y'all's plans for when GW cans AoS? Preserve the game in older editions or play something else?
>>97141450Isn't it marged with Christmas?
>>97141675Both cursed city and silver tower were a blast. You sound like you have bad taste.
>>97141685No plans because it's not happening
>>97141685Use the minis for dnd and read the battletomes/novels for fun.
>>97141698anon...
>>97141694And you sound like you have brain damage!
>>97141719Yes. Second best selling wargame. If they cancel it then they will delete everything besides 40k as it outsells everything else like TOW etc
>>97141685I'm probably going to sell my Bonereaper and Kharadron armies in the next year (although if new OBR models come out I might get FOMOterrupted lol). My Skaven and Lizards will be fine to keep, because they'll be good for Old World or whatever other Fantasy games get done in the future. Not sure if I'd ever want to rebase, but you don't seem to need to with movement tray units.
>>97141724You've tried this one on multiple times recently and been BTFO on each occasion. One more time, since you're dogshit retarded:WARHAMMER. FANTASY. WAS. ALSO. THE. SECOND. BEST. SELLING. WARGAME. WHEN. IT. GOT. CANCELLED. FAGGOT. BRAIN.
>>97141738It wasn't even in top 5
>middle of the nigth in USA>workday morning in EuropeI wonder where faggot spamming this thread could be from
>>97141738Not that I care for this consolewar retardation but you might want to check your sources on that...
>>97141748>2014So, the year the game ended?Do you have 2010, 2011, 2012, or even 2013?
>>97141748ICv2 is not a real source. It's an American trade magazine, and their rankings are vibes-based scrying based on interviews conducted with distributors of their choice and probably a tiny handful of retailers local to them or who they palled down with at a con.Zero representation of the Euro market indies (let alone any representation of GW's own numbers).Incidentally, I wonder which market WHFB sold best in?
>>97141754Warhammer fantasy got the boot in 2015 you retarded fakegrog.Either way, it's nowhere to be seen in 2013. You gotta go back to 2012, where it shows up in 3rd place behind 40k and warmachine. Same goes for 2011, 2010, and 2009. In 2008 it was also on the list, though in 5th place. In 2007 it's outside the top 5, but in 2006 it was still in there at nr 4. Anything earlier and I can't find icv2 stats on miniatures specifically, though maybe they exist.Sidenote but man how the fuck did x-wing fall off so hard, what happened? It dethroned 40k for a year in 2015, but is nowhere to be seen now. Same goes for a bunch of other star war games honestly.
>>97141788End Times started in summer 2014 you little shitstain. Do you think when those materials started coming out the fanbase was like, "Surely things will go back to normal after this fun is done!"ICv2 does not provide "stats" retard. Read their own disclaimer and understand where and what they are.
>>97141788Star Wars as a setting is shallow as fuck, it can only hold interest for so long.
>>97141802Star Wars was doing fine until Disney
>>97141788>why did a SW thing become less popular as the number of people who remember a time when SW didn't suck AIDS-riddled donkey balls shrinks by the day?I honestly don't think there's any answer that can satisfy that question, anon.>>97141810It really wasn't. Filoni Wars had almost all the problems Didney Wars has. Lucas had checked out a long time ago at that point. Do not forget that many initially rejoiced at the Didney buyout because they believed the Mouse, currently riding high off the then-triumphant MCU, would right the ship that Lucas had blundered. Even when the news of the EU being discarded came, people were celebrating, because "everything but KOTOR was Ewoks-tier shit and will surely be replaced by something better."It took years before the consensus shifted, and even now there are loyal consoomers ready to slurp up the latest Rey action figure to line Didney's coffers.
>>97141799...yes? Same thing that happened with storm of chaos? If anything end times gave the whole thing a boost as we saw plenty of new shit getting released. I'm well aware of the shortcoming of icv2 and I wouldn't bring it up in a serious discussion, but when arguing with total war zoomers on /tg/ pretending to be fantasy grogs it does a fine enough job.
>>97141819I'm not talking about weather you liked the product or not. Star Wars was a jugernout that could sell anything in 2000s and early 2010s. It's only now that general public "lost interest"
>>97141821>I'm well aware of my shortcoming and I wouldn't be able to have a serious discussionNo shit lmaoYou have fewer than 5 years in wargaming. You're brand new, you're unblooded. Go bust up whatever Sylvaneth models survived your tantrum the other day. Hold a lighter to a Treemanne BloomVengeant until the molten HIPs dripping down your feminine hand makes you feel something.
>>97141840what an odd projection
>>97141840>try to start shit>get so assblasted that you're the one having a melty insteadLel they're not sending their best, folks.
Wrapping up for today
>>97141840>>You have fewer than 5 years in wargaming.So that's five more years than any TWW secondary has, and one more new player attracted to wargaming than Fagtasy has had in two decades.>>97141823No, sales were down then too. There was a definite slump, even with the ever-loyal consoomers.
>>97141738Not it wasn't. It was outsold by paints.AoS outsells TOW so if they're cancelling anything, it will be TOW.Don't be retarded
What army is the most Hell Yeah Core?Feel like IJ or Khorne
>>97141840What a weirdo
>>97141867Gotta be Khorne for the murdercycle, right? I think that mini has issues and I've never seen it played so it's probably not great, but a demon motorcycle is pretty ridiculously hell yeah
https://www.captiongenerator.com/v/48861/age-of-sigmar-interview
>>97141864Far be it from me to stop you from riling up the resident schizo but has anyone ever produced a source for the whole 'fantasy was getting outdone by space marine tacticals / black paint', it just seems like bullshit to me. It's a very widespread claim that you'll find even warhammer fantasy fans repeat whenever the topic of its squatting gets brought up, but it seems a bit absurd to me. Like yeah I'm sure it wasn't selling well, and in some stores where fantasy was completely dead I can see it happening, but as a company-wide phenomenon? C'mon.
The greyfryd is my favorite fyreslayer lodge.
Hear me out, no one cares about Neave, here's the next show they actually should make
>>97141885Really like how the beard is painted
>>97141890Might we refer you to >>/slop/ the cioccolata elf can stay though
I wish Nagash was real
>>97141890>slop
>>97141882No, no source has ever corroborated that apocryphal tale, and there's no reason to believe it's accurate.
>>97141840Now that the dust has settled, why did bait flop?
>>97141925Now that anon has settled, why does he bate to slop?
>>97141913It's the Age of Sigmar thread, man. Slop is welcome. Slop is apropos. We feed on slop and it makes us strong (well, weak).
>>97141934Fuck, that's better.>TQMork Day, not to be confused with Gork Day
>>97141738Fantasy supposedly wasn't even GW's second game in the 2010's. According to peachy in one of his interviews, the lotr games were doing better than it for a while.
>>97141948>"I hate morkdays" - gorkfield>>97141967The Uruk Hai kit outsold the Tac Marines box the year of its release, according to white dwarf. I don't know who's buying all this LOTR stuff but it does do numbers.>captcha is "k gayy"
>>97141802Star Wars has been getting releases continuously since it's inception you fucking clown
Reading more on these lasses and taking a closer look at the models. I think I'm starting to like them. I was always turned off by their rules seeming kinda bullshit and our resident Morathifag being one of the most obnoxious posters ITT. But I'm starting to think they're kinda cool on their own merits.
>>97141900You can meet him by taking a full bottle of Aspirin at once
>>97141882>>97141919I did a little bit more digging and from what I can gather it's more than likely an amecdote from a single store, maybe a couple, that got retold and retold until it became a company-wide phenomenon, with paints instead of tactical marines because that's all the more shocking. I can easily believe tactical marines (hell, even the paints) outselling fantasy at the level of individual stores, since the interest in games can swing wildly between regions. Before I moved aos was very marginal at my lgs, for example, where I live now it's one of the most popular games. Spearhead nights often attract more crowds than 40k, unthinkable at my old place.Anyway, I did find this, supposedly from the chapterhouse lawsuit. The 5th edition marine codex, which came out in 2004, did outsell fantasy's 7th edition's rulebook if you count the total amount of sales in the 4 years after release (2005-2008 for marines, 2007-2010 for fantasy rulebook).Of course this isn't the best metric, as for one they don't line up perfectly chronologically, and I'm pretty sure this would not count starter sets included in say the battle for blackfire pass, which by all accounts seemed to be a popular starter set.
>>97142092They are cool, but the DoK posters are the worst out of all faction posters
>>97141840Friendly reminded that these are the people you engage with when replying to bait. Take a minute to think if it's worth it instead of just hiding and reporting.
hmm
>>97142147I feel like there's one or two of the morathiposters at best. It's the same gooner 90% of the time.>>97142328I said it in the previous thread too, but this board is terrible at detecting bait, let alone having the restraint necessary to not reply
>>97142336I want this to be 40k.
>>97142336>>97142342quite odd, doesn't really fit any aesthetic directly.Cos?
>>97142342It's for CoS. I know that because I don't want it to be.
>>97142336Doesn't tell us much
its likely the flamethrower. As retarded as it is.
>>97142336yep, cos flammenwerfer
>>97142336Irondrakes refresh perhaps?
>>97142395
>>97142336>can literally dig magical fire rocks out of the ground>plentiful enough to make them material for everything from bullets to hearth and bath heaters>one city has its regular infantry armed with sizzling hot blades>but actual flamethrowers are made with a shitty torch and a leaf blowerI hate this goddamn potato direction so much. Fucking nobody got into AoS because they appreciated its grounded narrative and rustic aesthetics.
>>97142400We know Dispossessed are getting refreshed and souped with Fyreslayers.
>>97142401the alternative is the stormcast bolters.
>>97142404even then they would be MUCH more bulkier.
>>97142336a Pot-de-fer inspired design?
>>97142414that's a presumption based on kits they have abandoned? KO have flamethrowers too and they are as thing, so is the Hashut warcry Warband
>>97142342doesn't really suit any 40k faction, even Necromunda Redemptionists have better looking flamethrowers
>>97142404And that's awful.
>>97142401>>can literally dig magical fire rocks out of the groundI think realmstone is supposed to be rarer now. I mean the framing for WU Embergard was that warbands were drawn there because of the emberstone mines. Similarly it's the promise of aqua ghyranis (just plain water with minute amounts of cyclestone in it) that attracts people to Spitewood. They're not like previous seasons where the narrative emphasized some huge treasure or unique resource that all the warbands were after, instead the focus is put on just regular old realmstone.So I think we're supposed to take it that realmstone is rare to find in significant quantities.
ulgurothi release next year, i can feel it
Genuinely I do think there is something to be said about aos pivoting hard into more dark fantasy styling, and even trying to mirror some warhammer fantasy armies. I do think the aos team sees TOW as a threat and have pivoted to work on armies like seraphon, S2D, soulblight, and skaven as a sort of way to get ahead of the old world before any serious funding could possibly be added to that game system.i think fyreslayers being dropped into a new dispossessed range actually lends credence to this theory. And maybe it’s not taking TOW into account and just seeing the fact that armies based off the old whfb that are in aos continue to sell the best.
>>97142563you are two editions too late to be making this comment.
>>97142576I was here in 2e. And it’s a continuous thing not just “it’s dark fantasy now”. When they’re re imagining certain armies and souping others in the name of making the armies more whfb like
>>97142563this is not even bait at this point lmao
We are one or two posts away before we engage in the microfaction vs soup argument.
>>97142401>>plentiful enoughthey aren't
Katakros Mk.II when?
>>97142609
> new ytube explaining the factions> It's pancreasnoworkRIP to /tg/ of namefag bcranon aka HeyWoah aka HeyFat.All things fade from relevance. He was funny one or two times. RIPA
>>97142623I miss this comic
>>97142640I don't know who any of these people are and you're a massive faggot for even caring about this shit
>>97142599Im legitimately just stating a fact about the game. Why do you think idk,fyreslayers, and KO haven’t got any meaningful additions since they were released? Why do you think the COS are now overloaded with gothic designs. Why do you think the major releases this year were refreshes on wolf riders, basic skeletons, and chaos dwarfs? It’s clear to me at least that they are pivoting into grabbing as many of the armies from whfb as possible because the aos versions of said armies dramatically outsell the aos original armies. It’s clear as day to anyone with eyes
>>97142653>doubling downDon't you have a TWW campaign to finish, nigger
>>97142653this such a retarded take.
>>97142640>RIP to /tg/ of namefag bcranon aka HeyWoah aka HeyFat. RIPA
>>97142649I was new once too.Welcome to tg you are here forever
>>97142664Ok then, just wait until you get your whfb coded ogor refresh, or your whfb coded dispossessed army, and maybe even your whfb coded ossiarch second wave
>>97142671>nooo you have to care about these litelar whos or you're not a trve 4channerholy fuck go rope yourself
>>97142640bcranon "why even print these artefacts if I only pick the best one? we need fewer, more balanced, options" also bcranon "idk mane 4th edition feels boring with so few artefacts to choose from and them all being once per battle"
>my sources say AoS is getting cancelled after agua oscura flopped. TOW is doing incredibly well and has become their main focus
>>97142678keep waiting for your dead game to get aos coded player numbers one day lmao
Can someone toss me a pdf of the Spitewood rulebook? Thank you.
>>97142701isnt the female bald. Why does she have hair there.
>>97142711>FemaleCringe predditfag>Why does she have hairTard
>>97142711
>>97142718I was so sure she was bald.>>97142716I was talking about kurnothi
>>97142722She does look it from the promo image but you can see the orange braid a little
>>97142722>she was baldYou're just a retard, happens.
>>97142716retard
>>97142731Meh. there's 3 women (or FeMaLeS) in the pic. He never specified. There was a 1 in 3 chance of me being right or wrong.
>>97142732You could use your reading comprehension to understand what he meant? ESL retard
>>97142563obvious bait but have been thinking for a bitits funny that fantasy degens seem to think that extremely standard fantasy tropes are somehow unique to old world/whfantasy*checks notes* vampires and undead, dark fantasy, gothic fantasy designs, evil dwarfs, barbarian dorfs and even lizardman arent unique old world concepts. only one i would concede as uniquely whf is Skaven, but theyre literally better served in a high fantasy setting like aoswhf is so generic gw scrapped it to make the IP more trademarkable lol to think that aos is pivoting to imitate old world is pretty dumb. also most of old worlds factions are also X culture but fantasyyyyy which makes the game even more bland also not aos lore expert but aos is an apocalyptic setting from day 1
>>97142718Are those based of the Fae from Kingdoms of Amalur? If so that's fucking BASED anon!
>>97142738>its funny that fantasy degens seem to think that extremely standard fantasy tropes are somehow unique to old world/whfantasyyes anon that's how you know it's bait
>>97142734Meh.
>>97142745its a thing ive seen fantasy grogs in person think as well
>>97142738>its funny that fantasy degens seem to think that extremely standard fantasy tropes are somehow unique to old world/whfantasythat's a strawman almost as terrible as the one you're arguing with, bravo
>>97142746sirs this is very preddit of you I be disliking this sir
>>97142689You can tell this is AI because no Mexican man is that thin
It's hilarious how the AoS general is consistently dominated by talk of WHF lol
>>97142834doesnt help when /wfg/ is dead they come over here.
Ok, I mean sure yall can pretend that the entire point of aos wasn’t so that the designers could make completely new armies and designs and not be limited by “generic fantasy”. Aos going in a more generic fantasy direction, makes the entire thing more generic by extension you retards
>>97142841In the past year there have been 194 /wfg/ threads, but only 54 /aosg/. Think it's this general that's dead bro. Would make sense seeing as AoS is a dying soon to be dead game.
>>97142876Sent that freak flying
>>97142883>>97142876Don't samefag anon, it's sad.
>>97142841yeah you fags certainly like to shitpost here instead if your dead general
>>97142924I dont go to wfg, and my shitposts are usually contained in other boards.
>>97142678Nta but nu-ogres and chorfs are pretty explicitely different from their whfb counterparts, as are, to an extent, soulblight. The new rumoured CoS look to be a direct continuation of the 3rd edition wave design-wise.
>>97142981>as are, to an extent, soulblight.How are Soulblight much different from WFB Vampire Counts or even other fantasy Vampires like VtM?
>>97142876>>97142883Were you keeping count or something? Since the 27th of november, a little under two weeks ago, there have been 10 aosg threads and 7 wfg ones. Neither game had any mini reveals or anything during this period, nor big leaks, though I suppose wfg had the total war dlc reveal. Doesn't seem to have affected things too much though.At 10 posts per two weeks or so, we should expect to be at around 245 threads for aos. Again, that's based on a time period with nothing special happening, these threads were obviously moving a lot faster after say the chorf reveals or the massive leak wave in early november. Same goes for wfg and the massive discussions following cathay.Tldr pathetic attempt
>>97143085>there have been 10 aosg threads and 7 wfg ones. Neither game had any mini reveals or anything during this period,yeah, but Darkwater did come out, so that would increase interest in /AoSg/ compared to /WFg/
>>97142876>>97143085>couldn't even be bothered to come up with a realistic number for his baitsad!
Been really enjoying reading through the HoH battletome.
>>97141643Swell looking hopper anon, loving the gum and eye colors, not the typical colors you'd see, gj
>>97142640>pancreasnoworkI remember watching when he was starting out. I liked his Corax White video but slowly It dawne on me he is an autisitc(propably given considering this hobby) No fun allowed can't counter a charge army retard. Him being a Halofag only cemented hi status as a trash.
>>97143027Much more eastern european, and even a little bronze age barrowy, compared to more generic faux-gothic of warhammer fantasy. Compare the new vs "old" mounted wight lord for example. I'm not saying it's a massive shift akin to say high elves -> lumineth, or that it's all-encompassing (blood knights, zombie dragon are both quite normal), but it's there. Definitely not as big of a deviation as chorfs are of course, or CoS.
TOW getting cancelled is cope, that chances of that went to 0 as soon as Cathay was revealed.
>>97143124They're lore is super interesting, and I quite like their models. Glad you're having fun, anon :)
>>97141643Currently making my Hashutite Sword Dwarves. Got another box to bulk wm uo to 20 coming in. And when my LGS opens back up this week I grabbing their last Bull Centaur box.
>>97143124Yeah. It was a good read. I’m jealous they even got subfaction iconography.
>>97143124it's an insult to hindus everywhere, hope that GW goes bankrupt because of it
GW should give way more dinos to lizardmen.
>>97143257Oh absolutely, dinos of all sizes are cool as hell
>>97143257Giant petrasaur when
>>97141776Lmao holy cope
>>97141882The tactical box thing was in a white dwarf back when lotr was getting a lot of releases, so well before fantasy was floundering
>>97142336Wow Kislev really is going to be announced on Christmas kek
>>97143257don't get me wrong I'd love more dinos but I feel like most of the roster is already covered. couple exceptions though
>>97143338>>97143343>>97143348>all 1 minute apartjust how bored are you lmao
>>97143139I dislike COS because the chaf is way to complicated to paint for what is supposed to be a lot's of minis army. Plus the fact that their helmets have visible faces makes it worse. Face covering plate would have been way better.
>>97142738Purple sun is another concept aped from fantasy btw
>>97143357You need to redial your schizo radar
>>97143085To be fair, /aosg/ threads only move fast because I and a few others have been shitposting extra hard here while you guys only had one guys shitposting in the TOW threads
>>97143369nah you need to make your shitposting at least a bit less obvious, tourist
Always busy in decemberAnons, does GW release new content in this month? Or will only be like spearheads and recycled shit in a box?
>>97143377They kinda take a break in december. Usually they hint what the new year will have.
>>97143360Me with some chaos warriors, they have skin in those eye sockets and its impossible for me to paint because bad pulse
>>97143375funnily enough /wfg/ is the most alive it's been since Cathay release thanks to just that one shitposter
97143376Ah you're just shitposting carry on
>>97143391Just paint them in black, nobody will be able to see the detail
>>97143355I'd love a big quetzlcoatlus or hatzeghoweveryouspellit flying reptile mount, would be cool as fuck. I think a dilophosaurus is sufficiently different enough from normal raptors so they wouldn't clash with aggradons or raptadons too much.>>97143360Not repping the megacool faceplates as the standard build was such a mistake by gw.>>97143375When wfg was at its fastest, right after cathay, it was barely useable. Both threads are *usually* in a goldilocks zone where the thread is slow enough to be worthwile (unlike 40kg for example), while fast enough to have conversations.
>>97143393I mean, you can looks at /whfb/ and /aosg/ in the archive and clearly see that half the AoS posts are shitposts or people arguing with shitposters and compare it to how little impact the TOW shitposter had on /WHFB/. There’s no point in trying to falsify recent history when anyone can look at both threads if they want.
>>97143450finished that tww campaign yet?
>>97143456Nah haven’t even bought or tried the new dlc. Everyone is glazing CA but I’ve seen this before. Overall too mediocre and total war is a bit basic for me after the release of Europa Universalis 5, which is easily my sleeper hit GOTY
>>97143481 EU4 was better
>>97143496EU 4 was very different. And I could never get into it. While it wasn’t me for, I can understand why an EU 4 lover would dislike EU 5. One is more of a board game and the other is a simulation. They don’t usually appeal to the same people.
>>97143085Its all in the archive little bro. Cope.
I wish I could go back to 2024. or 2014. Id buy all the wood elf shit that people threw away. Actually wait no I couldnt do that, wood elves literally had no fucking players.
>>97143514Lmao cute cope
>>97143526You can literally buy as many wood elves as you want right now.
>>97143533yeah but not as dirt cheap. I mean I did buy these eternal guard for $20 a box because my lgs needed to get rid of them, but im sure they were cheaper when end times came and people had a melty.
>>97143541>$20 a box Kek. Try harder.
>>97143553they were sitting in the stores bargain bin for a while. idk what to tell you. I think they just needed to make room for other old world stuff.
imagine the insecurity you must have to set up a bot that automatically responds to your shitposts with >sent that freak flyingor>bodied that freakin every thread
>>97143685bodied that freak
>>97143541Eternal guard were webstore only after 2nd edition, so much more expensive than they are for TOW
>>97143707sent that freak flying
>>97143735Settled that dust
>>97143514oh no no no....
>>97143751Sent that dust flying.
>>97143763Liked that idea more than the concept itself
>>97143355>nobody cares about godzillaI doI'll be forever angry at trash carden for turning the dread saurian from croczilla to just a quadrupedal lizard
>>97143758>even in (fake)grog central aos is still more popularDamn
>>97143355The warhammer stegosaur was an unreleased extra elite stegadon for epic less armoured, more aggressive, more likely, given the face
>>97143810but "crested stegadon", as it was called, it's kind of a lame name, so maybe he should inherit the name arcanodon, also so the latter can have a cool feature in the plates
>>97143758That is worrying. That they had that much activity in such a comparatively low effort year overall. Also some guy posted that TOW website yesterday that showed tournament results/lists. TOW really is popular in a lot of non English speaking countries so I think that also hides popularity on English language forums. Fantasy is huge in Spain iirc from yesterday for example.
>>97143831The US alone is nearly half of GW's total revenue. Being popular in Spain and Poland matters little in comparison, even if true.
>>97143831The list that showed every tournament failing to fill out? That one?
>>97143849Again, I am more worried about how much TOW has picked up when it has so few big new releases compared to AoS. If GW picks up the pace of new models, which mostly have been amazing, instead of just rereleasing nostalgia boomer bait, we may be in trouble going forward.
>>97143863Your general died again huh :(
>>97143863I really can't understand how do you not get bored of doing this shit every single day, you must unironically be on the spectrum
>>97143831>>97143863>Again, I am more worried about how much TOW has picked upYeah, anon, about that...
>>97141685I'll just play whatever's active at my LGS. Base adapter trays exist.
>>97143925Kek, really did send that freak flying
>>97143925Not really a suprise when you consider launch year vs just a regular year ( with very little releases ). Hopefully it holds that way, and we see a reversal in the dire AoS tournament numbers in 4th.
>>97144003Are they dire? Aos tourney numbers are nonuple what tow numbers are
>>97144014Compared to 3rd yes, AoS has been on a popularity decline in 4th in terms of tournaments played.
>>97144015Spells horrible news for ToW if that's the case
I think I fucked up my brushes. Probably gonna have to get some new ones before I paint up anything new. Luckily I have plenty of stuff to assemble in the meanwhile.
>>97143925GW investor reports agree that the initial launch of TOW was financially successful. But in contradiction to the deranged retard, explicitly state that there was no apparent market cannibalization, so AoS sales didnt decrease as a result of TOW and the sales it generated were in addition to aos sales. That makes sense to me because a lot of people play multiple GW games and have different armies for each one, and TOW at launched was almost entirely old, OOP sculpts that people are likely to buy as collectors items and arent analogous to current production AoS models in that respect.Anecdotally nobody I know plays TOW, even if they have armies for it. Currently people locally are playing 40K, Horus Heresy, AoS and Kill Team in basically that order.
>>97144067>Horus HeresyI think as a business model this is the best game GW has ever made. The amount of shelf space you need to stock the essentials is smaller than even specialist niche games like necromunda. And the return on each kit space marine kit in HH I am sure is WAY higher than any other kit in any other game except maybe SM kits in 40k.
>>97141685One Page Rules
>>97144015a not insignificant portion of that though is due to AoS's largest tournament country electing a leader who's black bagging and deporting anything that moves. more than a few people from the tournament scene have said they just arent going to the US anymore because of the political climate and potential to get harassed or detained by ICE>>97144067i dont actually think there is much overlap between the rank and flank crowd and the aos crowd. i think the people who like rank and flank weren't biding their time in aos just waiting for whfb to come back, they went on to 9th age or tried other games like conquest, or just stuck to playing old editions of whfb, and the people playing aos are big fans of its newer models, and more dynamic and fluid round based skirmish and objective control gameplay and wouldnt find what they are looking for in old world. obviously that doesnt apply to everybody and there are people who are fans of both, but as someone who used to run demo games in the 00s, getting round based players from 40k to get into square based rank and flank and vice versa was like pulling teeth
>>97144116>a not insignificant portion of that though is due to AoS's largest tournament country electing a leader who's black bagging and deporting anything that moves>Trump is causing the decline of AoSCongratulations anon. You have won most schizo 4chan take of all time. You've won. You've done it.
>>97143810>>97143830>>97143355>>97143257alright, here's the plan
>>97144135
>>97144003>>97144015https://thehonestwargamer.com/age-of-sigmar/age-of-sigmar-stats-the-state-of-the-game/>An increase in the number of events and players of about 16% and 23%, respectively, over the same period the previous year. [July to september] >Oh no no no...doomsisters...As much as I enjoy sparring with our resident baitposter, there's actually some interesting stuff happening with aos tournaments. Looks like the really big tournaments are actually faltering a little bit, but this is alleviated by a large amount of smaller grassroots events popping up. I wonder if anything similar is happening for 40k.
>>97141685I'll just buy skaven-like figures from temu then.Don't care for the game much aside from the cool villainous vermin. To me the game is too complicated, too much logistics involved, hard to find people.Pic rel is pretty dope for the negligible costs. I might just try my hands at blender if GW goes under.
>>97144146might have something to do with Spearhead
>>97144146It's because ICE is raiding large events and deporting anyone that breathes. AoS has gone underground.
>>97144135>4 monsters (2 are special)>3 units of multiple models>2 titanic monsters kits>1 spella bit greedy, don't you think?
>>97144085They arent actually executing it very well. Not having basic space marine units available in plastic for the entirety of 2nd edition while spamming tank releases was a shit show, now they have 2 assault marine kits, but still no breachers, recon marines, seekers, bikes, etc. They also botched the upgrade kits, no right handed pistols, no combi-weapons, no terminator weapons, two handed thunder hammers even though they are one handed weapons, upside down power lances and the melee weapon upgrades being about 2 years late were also problems. In 3rd edition theyve also started to develop the 40k problem of being scared of wargear, even though wargear is what sells upgrade kits.
I have no dog in this race but havent 40k tournaments been declining as well?
>>97144116The effect of attendence on AoS tournament attendees from outside the US stating they aren't coming to the US due to Trump is so completely insignificant it begged belief you would even mention it. The Faggot Wargamer keeps parroting that with all his other shit political takes, nice to know where some of the mouth breathers in this shit hole get their news from
>>97144135>>97144174could just use dinosaur figures to convert alternate versions of existing units. i've gotten some, there are really high quality dinosaur figs for cheap nowadays in perfect scale with the seraphon monsters
>>97144188>In 3rd edition theyve also started to develop the 40k problem of being scared of wargear, even though wargear is what sells upgrade kitsYeah I looked into it and a lot of people didn't like the core changes to the game in 4th. Apparently terrain is fucked and the game is only 4 turns long. And it's shifted to a score fest objective game like 40k. I was still kinda interested but it's dead where I live so.
>>97144124>>97144158>>97144192boy someones triggered
>>97144174>a bit greedy, don't you think?No, also the stegadon should get an updated kit so it's bigger, and temple guards and the eternity warden should get updated as well, also basic skinks and a prophet of sotek.Then and only then, lizardmen can be considered complete and stay untouched for 20 more years.
>>97144216man... I'm considering either lizards or sylvaneth after my death army is done
>>97144211You'd be triggered too if you had to calculate whether you should double turn or not while looking over your shoulder for government goons that want to send you back to Guadalajara.
>>97144211I think it's only two anons, (Me) and the dude posting the head shots.And I'm not triggered, but the idea that Trump makes all these AoS tournament goers from attending is idiotic
>>97144062hang in there, Nanao
>>97144228either ones good. seraphon have more variety when it comes to the opportunity to do different colors and patterns (most sylvaneth are 95% tree bark), but sylvaneths range is completely modern while seraphons range has some aging kits. the skinks actually hold up pretty well but as >>97144216mentioned, the stegadon is a bit doofy and small.as far as gameplay, seraphon is now a very straightforward army with few tricks, it just has high damage and a lot of health, and walks forward and beats your face in. kroak can still kinda do the spell dom thing but nowhere near what he used to be, and the regular slanns new summoning mechanic is too random and lean to really be called summoning at all. its a nice bonus when it happens but far from reliable. skinks also lost most of their buffing units and special rules so you cant make them do much besides screen or grab objectives anymore, they arent the teleporting poison machine guns they were in previous editions. the army has some shooting but its mostly supplementary and its primarily a melee army now sylvaneth have some very deep gameplay but as a result of that also probably one of the steepest learning curves of any army in the game, and with very few bodies on the table and little in the way of reinforcement mechanics (though they have healing for days) every model lost hurts so they can be a bit unforgiving. but they are probably the most mobile army in the game, can build for shooting or melee, and are really great at putting big hard to kill monster heroes in unexpected places very quickly. there is a terrain model tax though which isnt a fun bullet to bite. both great picks though, cant go wrong either way, two of the most fulfilling armies in aos.
Well my ebay lot showed up, Sigvalds taking a bath and I've... attempted to save the rest of the units. Fucking hell man this shit was packed the worst I've ever seen.
>>97142609I'm here if you wanna run 1v1s, soups vs skins
>>97144216>Then and only then, lizardmen can be considered complete and stay untouched for 20 more years.what about a kroxigor hero? or a chameleon hero? or skink wizards of different themes?
>>97144191Recession shit. Tourism is down as a whole. It is what it is
>>9714414640k-ifying aos would legitimately poison the game and lead to its eventual irrelevancy. You can gamify 40k because it’s 40k and its multimedia projects have been such a boon for the game, with the wool of normies who play space marine 2 means even if 10% of those pick up a box of space marine it ups the sales to such a degree it skyrockets above every other GW system. AOS does not have that luxury, and still gw is pushing it into being a fantasy 40k when it fails to draw in new players anywhere near the level 40k does.
>>97144085Helps that 18 out of what, 20-22 (?) factions are basically the same army painted in different colours, with maybe 4 or 5 unique kits each. I don't think you could get away with a game like this using anything but the popularity of space marines. Also found a nice niche as the more 'serious' option next to 40k, while the latter got simpler over the years (or at least has been perceived as such, I don't play it).>>97144135>massive pterosaur mount for skink chiefsSubscribe
>>9714438820 years is 5 or 6 editions worth of battletomes that get accompanied only by pity heroes, they can be churned out over time that way.
>>97144388>what about a kroxigor hero? or a chameleon hero?as much as those would be fun models, GW isnt particularly prone to making 5 wound foot hero warscrolls anyone actually wants to ever use. i'd rather get new monsters or something than another $40 per single model foot hero that just collects dustthe only exception might be if the kroxigor hero gets a light of eltharion/gotrek/sigvald style warscroll where they can actually do things and throw down in combat without dying instantly and do some respectable damage. otherwise im not interested in another "when this model fights you can pick another unit to fight immediately afterwards" guy
>>97144430It could carry a skink for kinky buffs
And my biggest fear is not that aos is squatted as in the company just kills the universe and game and stops selling the models. A more realistic fear is the larger game gets left behind in favor of spearhead. I know that sounds dumb, but what gw would bend over for is a wargame version that scratches a similar itch to MTG, and spearhead could be their vehicle to try and break into that market.
>>97144457Both of those are uhhh, most likely never going to happen unless GW goes tits up. Spearhead is basically just an easy way to toss some rules in to get people to buy starter boxes for armys they wouldn't necessarily collect the full versions of. The full game getting squatted is much less likely because dropping an entire product looks bad to shareholders, you hype up how good it is and keep releases coming because that's what make number go up.
>>97144430Why is gw so averse to making foot heroes actually do anything anyway? They probably make a good bit of profit on them, given the difference in production cost (both development and physical casting) and shelf space compared to full size units, while still costing what they do. I mean they seem to encourage them with the current drops system. But then they make half of them also boring and useless? Why?My 40k friends at the lgs on the other hand are always complaining that they can't find another 80 points or so to squeeze one more character in their lists. What makes things so different, anyone who also plays 40k know?
>>97144475>you hype up how good it is and keep releases coming because that's what make number go upLol no. The history of GW proves this isn't the case. Legions Imperialis is going to be dead in 3-4 years at most. AoS isn't anywhere near as dead as Legions, but if you think GW holds on to floundering games forever you're incorrect.
>>97141584>You're not suppozed to drink on the job retardGet a load of this cuck, bet you don't drink and drive either. Lmao.
>>97144514There's no way you play this game
>>97144475Oh they would never fully “drop” aos properly, but every new release you would see would mainly be for the spearhead format. In fact i think that’s a confirmed rumor. GW a greedy ass company, if they get a sense they can create a mtg type product for war gaming, they will jump at that chance
>>97144520Side games don't count, those are just extras. Also they never announced they're dead they just drop all support after going out to buy some cigs.
>>97144537I will never understand the constant doom and gloom in these threads as though AOS has some magical sword of damocles hanging over it. Some of you nerds gotta chill out.
>>97144514Worlds had 5 foot heroes in the top 3 lists you fucking moron.
>>97144520Legions imperialis will stay around, purely because if there is a tiny scale wargame market that exists at all gw wants its product on offer. GW strategy is that no matter what your interest is they have a type of game on offer for you. I mean ffs, they’re still supporting blood bowl.
>>97144209Terrain is only moderately fucked, but yes them wanting you to play a 3000 point game in 4 turns is insane. However it makes some sense that they did that now they made the combat phase takes forever and made each phase has 6 subphases.
>>97144560post em
Holy shit, dark water fucking FLOPPED
>>97144625shut up
>>97144561Yeah Blood Bowl is probably their most popular side game. Shows how well informed you are. Legions is awful because the IP holds it back. I want to play an epic scale game. I would gladly play Warmaster or Epic 40k. I am not interested in marineslop epic.
>>97144561something some people dont realize, which people in the know like GMG or those two store owner guys have talked about, is that GW will keep a product around even at a loss or a break even if it occupies space on store shelves, because store shelf space is a zero sum game, and every box product they can get, every 12 inches of shelf space they can occupy with another GW product, is another smaller competitor literally physically shoved out of the space, which is further reinforced by GW reps often demanding their stockists to hold at least a certain minimum threshold commitment of each product as part of their contracta product doesnt necessarily have to pull a big profit if it is also giving them the added benefit of squeezing competitors out of the spaces in the fight for elbow room on shelves
>>97144531>>97144560Stop sperging, I'm not talking about centrepieces or named characters, I mean your basic bitch 5/3/3/1/2's. Lord of hubris, branchwych, and fungoid shaman in the top 3 of worlds, while we're at it.>>97144601https://woehammer.com/2025/11/16/top-three-aos-lists-for-the-age-of-sigmar-2025-world-championships-of-warhammer/
>>97144514>Why?making them overpowered invites backlash making them interesting requires way better rules writersmaking them important means they can't discontinue them whenever
>>97144682>wizard>wizard>useful ability>useful ability>literally sigvald>etcyeah, see this proves my point exactlyno one is taking those stupid little chain fight heroes that GW just loves to pump out. we can hope and pray that they actually make the next foot hero another lord of hubris where its got some game defining ability, but they have proven time and again that they rarely do that, and more often than not you'll get something like thiswizards and priests are a different story because they interact with a system outside of the heroes warscroll itself. we're not talking about wizards or priests being a problem here.
>>97144793Alright let's not bring Sigvald shit talking into this, you can insult everyone else but the main man will not take this kind of harsh language.
ICV2 Summer sales in: AoS dropped down to 5th. This was before HoH, so we will get an idea of how well they did next report depending on how much up (or down) they go.I do find it hilarious it being in 5th, that's where WHFB was back in 2012 so despite all the big rule/lore changes it seems any sort of Fantasy Warhammer is stuck down towards the bottom of the list.
>>97144810shut up
>>97144813It's still a fine position to be in, this isn't a "AoS IS DYING!!!1!" post.
>>97144793to be fair that oldblood on foot is hardly something you get on purpose, he's what you get as leftover for assembling the troglodon instead of the carbosaur
>>97144799>insultyou didnt understand the post
>>97144810>Tow nowhere to be seenLol
>>97144826>>97144823literally every single time a screenshot of this list is posted a bunch of shit flinging starts, it's fucking bait.
>>97144828>Chart only has data before Cathay releaseAnon…
>>97144828The bigger shock is no Horus Hersey, which had a full edition launch.>>97144840Maybe people should stop being insecure about games they like and they wouldn't explode in rage.
>>97144682Aos1 had a lot of this and people really hated having their 100$ centerpieces and 40 blocks of infantry getting obliterated by one 30$ guy. You don't want to revisit the aos1 era of 20$ resin necromancers stacking a million attacks on 40 blocks of skeletons that revive up to full strength every turn and can daisy chain across the table in a Conga line
>>97144851Cathay flopped hard lmao
>>97144810Why are you only showing the top 5?
>250 posts later and this general is STILL talking about TOWKEK
>>97144810Surely this won't be falseflagged to all hell today
>>97144863Heresy has never breached the top 10, the model count and limited range dissuade people too muchDespite heresy slop books being their best sellers for secondary media
>>97144810Interesting, you got a link?I think whfb was still 4th in 2012, under x-wing and warmachine, it's in 2013 and 2014 that they dropped off the charts. Although things are slightly different now with d&d's explosion. I mean 2 fucking d&d miniature lines in the top 5, jeez.
>>97144878That's what I found, I don't have an actual ICV2 account. I ain't paying for that.
>>97144851Did you go out and buy 6 balloons like a good tow player so gw knows you play their game? Or are you still playing with purchases you made 15 years ago?
>>97144870Uhh I doubt that. I doubt that a lot.
>>97144888Not very useful then
>>97144865I do wonder if there's any chance of ever getting like a god model that's just singular foot hero sized. Like "Avatar of Sigmar" and it's just effectively a human with a hammer with nutty stats. (Almost like Gotrek, which I suppose literally just describes what I'm putting down here)
>>97144828given the absence of HH as well, it's safe to say they lump the sales with 40k and aos.
I just realized gw could do an army of renown of all treemen. I’d like that very much personally.
>>97144902He only posted half the list
>>97144900I was gonna say, that sounds like gotrek and he really shook up the meta for a while
>>97144902lol. Lmao.
>>97144900nope, if it's something important it's going to be made pricey as hell, and that means being huge one way or another
>>97144917Gotrek?
>>97144912I'll eat my words if you can show me hh being listed separately.
>>97144884They really should put that in a different category, I know its not a wargaming sales list technically but those things barely fit.IIRC the End Times was decided in late 2012/2013 so probably not a factor (though I am sure they felt reassured by its drop that they made the right choice).>>97144899AoS had managed to get up to 3rd in Fall 2024, so still useful data. Gitmob really did flop it seems.
>>97144824
>>97144929I actually spent like an hour digging into the publicly available ones since I ain't pay pigging and it has literally NEVER appeared on these lists. I am pretty sure it is just merged into one
>>97144913I do wonder what he used to be like because now his stats are... Fine.>>97144917I realize, GW probably wouldn't want some 800 point model that costs like.... 30ish bucks or some shit. But it would be cool, there's something to be said about a literal one man army styled murder machine that's just an individual guy with a hammer.
>>97144880yes you've been shitposting here for like 10 hours, honestly impressive you're this autistic
I am curious as to how nu slayers are going to mold Gotrek and the white dwarf(?) into the faction since at least gotrek is confirmed to be in that battletome.
>>97144969Sadly when there's not a lot to talk about shitposters take over. Grotmas sucks ASS and now that HoH dropped there's not a lot to speculate over.
>>97144810positions 3 an 4 are both dungeons and dragons, literally the worlds largest TTRPG with a zillion spinoff products and competitors all using those model lines too like pathfinder, supported by massively successful streams and shows like critical roleim always surprised battletech does as well as it does though, but i guess 40 years of unbroken support, AAA video games and a very low cost of entry, i think their starter sets are like $30, probably works in their favor
>>97144922not important, and he's not really a model made by the mainline gw studio, but by black library, who's being handed a limited budget to turn some of their characters into models, but they're not really allowed to make them particularly invasive on the ranges
>>97145000
hey /aosg/,i hope your christmas time is comfy
>>97145026What an odd thing to say
how would you guys rate treemen on 1-10 on difficulty to paint?
>>97144902No TOW has been listed separately before. It just fell off that hard after the initial release.
Where even is the page for the top 10 sales on the icv2 website? I don't see it under the paid pro articles either?
>>971450856-7 maybe? The bark looks great with just an all over drybrush and the rest is not that overloaded with detail. More difficult to handle because of the size, obviously.
Do you think it'd be possible to replace the wheels on Glutos's chariot with the chaos warshrine freaks?
>>97145085Maybe a 4. They've got a lot of wood that can be cheated via drybrushing, but they've got tonnes of skin and long hair which is somewhat fiddly. If youre doing all kurnoth and dryads and tree men it could be like a 2 just barely above nighthaunt. Spites are where they get more intimidating
>>97145094where?
>>97145094Fell off so hard they fast tracked Cathay and are gearing up for Kislev. Riiiight. Meanwhile Deepkin and Fyreslayers still waiting years later to be a real army.
>>97145101>paying money so you can win an argument onlineGrim, regardless of what side of the argument you're on
>>97145105nope, the warshrine's freaks are larger than those wheels
>>97145109Cathay was fast tracked to boost the nonexistent sales and Kislev is pure cope on your part, try again
>>97145107Such a forced aesthetic.Really well drawn art but the naked baby proportions with exaggerated helmet makes no sense. Either go all armored or insane-berserker-with-no-armor aesthetic.
>>97145105Hell no, they freaks are way bigger, you'd have to awkwardly slope the entire model.Unless you're planning on giving up the existing pull freaks and just have bottom freaks carry it
>>97145117I would simply like a source for the chart, even where the OP found the half list. Because nothing so far leads me to believe it's real.
>>97145124>tastelet doesn't understand what an ornament is
>>97144870Cathay didn't flop it was a wild success. If it wasn't they would not have already greenlit and advertised the second wave
>>97145108I don't have them saved, but the ICv2 charts for 2024 were posted in the past. IIRC TOW debuted somewhere around 6th place, slid to 8th, and then fell out of the top 10 altogether and never returned. >>97145109You can seethe all you want, facts are facts.
>>97145105I think the warshrine guys are much taller than the wheel arches would fit but you could attach a big carrying handle to the axle hub of the glutos chariot and have them carrying it by the side
>>97145123Cathay was fast tracked because they are obviously picking up the pace of releases for TOW. They got the whole marauder refresh line out of nowhere announced like a little over a month ago. They are rushing shit out now because they have a lot more coming in the future.
>>97145123>fast tracked to boost the nonexistent salesNot responding to my post would have worked better than what you just wrote here, kekGames Workshop famously does not throw good money after bad. They will easily abandon a project instead of sink money into it. Cathay getting fast tracked and, more importantly, getting a second wave in less than a year is a sign of huge success.
People on this thread are really coping when they say TOW is on the way out. Literally every rumor source on tga has gone on record saying TOW was not on the backburner. Whitefang himself said that too.
>>97145132Ornaments are supposed to look cool anon.
>>97145140>don't have them saved, but the ICv2 charts for 2024 were posted in the past.doesn't look like it
>>97144810This is fake btw.
>>97145165I thought that was obvious
>>97144898Okay bud enjoy your dead general
>>97145152You have to understand that diehard AoS fans are some of the most insecure people on the planet. They used to seethe at 40k for being much more popular despite AoS having better models (true) and better rules (true before 4e). Now that 40k is still doing much better and TOW is doing good, their insecurity is being sandwiched from above AND below.
I like both Age of Sigmar and Old World.4th>Old World though
man I wish jannies were real
>>97144793Hey, fucktard, where does Squigboss with Gnasha Squig have wizard or priest on its scroll? It proves your point if you can't read.
>>97144902Nope lolTow has been on the list once beforeHH is separate as wellCute cope though!
>>97145160Yeah, TOW had already stopped charting by Fall. I'm talking about the first/2nd quarter 2024. I know TOW definitely charted once, I may be hallucinating that they even showed up a second time. There were a lot of jokes about it at the time because it showed that TOWs debut release still lost to AoS in a quarter where basically the only thing that came out was Darkoath.
>>97145137Lmao whatever you say TWWsecondary>>97145177>>97145165Whatever helps you cope
>>97145192>HH is separate as wellThis is not true as far as we can tell. It has literally never appeared on the list.
>>97145192>Tow has been on the list once before>HH is separate as wellOk, but can you show when?
>>97145206Because nobody plays HH lmao
>>97145122>>97145125Aw fuck really? Yeah that looks to be the case. Ya know somehow I figured Glutos and his crew would be a bit bigger I guess!>>97145141Interesting... It'd probably make basing the whole thing weird but it's a cool model so I dunno maybe I could have the front freaks be extended a bit...?
>>97145204>Whatever helps you copeIf it's real you should be able to post the source right? Even if you don't have an account you should be able to show us where you obtained the image right
>>97145204>Lmao whatever you say TWWsecondaryNot that anon, but Games Workshop famously lets poor sellers languish: See Deepkin, Fyreslayers, and for 40k Leagues of Votann. They only push multiple waves so quickly when shit flies off the shelves (see: quarterly Ultramarines releases)
>>97145180what does that say about you towfags if you come to this general just to shit it up lmao
>>97145220This, Cathay got more releases than entire AoS armies have ranges in like 6 months not even. Insane cope from some people here that this is because Cathay somehow sold poorly.If that's the case where the 12 Gitmob waves we should have gotten after sunstealas flopped lmao
>>97144863>Maybe people should stop being insecure about games they like and they wouldn't explode in rage.So anyways totally called it!
>>97145217I think the better move is to move glutos mutants to the rear wheel arches and put the two warshrine ones in the front. The glutos mutants shoulders come up to around the same height as the top of the wheel and look they they could be hunched enough to shove in the wheel wells
>>97145204> SecondaryPost your painted army for AoS and ToW.You DO have a painted army right
>>97145191you're the one who cant read. go try again
>>97145220Leagues of votann got several killteams and a second wave the next edition after release thoughbeit
>>97145231>If that's the case where the 12 Gitmob waves we should have gotten after sunstealas flopped lmaoAnon you see Gitmob sold SO WELL Games Workshop realized they never have to make a new mini for it again since they just fly off the shelves anyways.
>>97145246You make the request you post yours first. But you do not own a single painted model from any tabletop wargame lmao, go finish that tww campaign
>>97145243Okay I can see it.... Do you think I could pull off maybe just raising the platform as a whole and then having longer chains for the front freaks? I'm worried it would look a bit too goofy then though.
Idoneth would sell better if they haf an actual roster
>>97145246You make the demandYou post yours with timestamp first
>>97145199>Yeah, TOW had already stopped charting by Fall.and I guess the horus heresy had disappeared a few months after the launch of 2nd edition as well, right?is there any proof of them ever appearing on such a chart?
>>97145246You know the rules. Gotta post models to request models.
>>97145260*hadMinor spelling mistake.Its over.
>>97145251Second wave yeaaaaars apart. They were in no rush to mine that vein. >>97145260That's kind of the fucked up catch-22 of GW planning: a new armies first wave has to sell well to guarantee a second. If it flops, they'll just quietly abandon it and maybe give it a pity character every 3-4 years.
>>97145264Again no, I checked earlier today with all the publicly available ones and HH has never charted. Presumably because it was considered part of 40k.
I called it like, 40 minutes ago. AND HERE WE ARE, another shitter raid with the same fucking inbred morons from last time.
>>97145271>They were in no rush to mine that vein.Because 40k actually gets short editions whereas tow won't see an update ever because it's a flop
>>97145271Such a shame too, they have such a good concept and they already have some amazing models.
>>97145288ToW literally had their 1.5 update a few months ago dummy
>>97145284Please understand the old world general doesnt have enough participants to keep from getting bumped off the board so they have to come here and kick and scream and insist their rank and flank chinksloppa is totally a smash hit
>>97145258I think you'd be better off doing a chariot style mount for them(no fucking clue what the historical term for it is). It'd let you keep the whole palanquin level and keep the mutants from being too far forward
I've been psyop'd into getting into this hobby by Warhammer games and I wanna give painting a shot, is the introductory set a viable beginner kit for the artistically challenged? I like the AoS aesthetic and there's more variation in the rat dudes vs the gayass tyranids in the 40k introductory kit, but I'm worried that the goldenboys with their shiny armor are going to be leagues harder to make look decent compared to the ultramarines being 90% blue.
>>97145297OH! Like on the black coach? No I totally get what you mean, basically like an extended board thing for them to hold onto so it's like a little metal beam that has offshoots for them to hold onto!
>>97145304Unironically buy a cheap kit of an army you're only kind of interested in. That way you can fuck it up and practice without wasting models you care about.
>>97144793You legitimately do not play this game at all. I actually find you more objectionable than the dust settles spambot, because they aren't trying to engage in good faith. You actually want to play but didn't even bother reading the army lists at worlds before complaining, you fucking schmuck. Worlds: Krulghast Cruciator (not a wizard), Squigboss (not a wizard), Scinari Cathaller (Every single lumineth unit is a wizard, even infantry), Scinari Enlightener. There's also Sigvald and Olynder but I'm not including them because my point is that you don't actually play this game and I don't need gotcha named foot heroes to prove that. First result on Woehammer:https://woehammer.com/2025/12/09/top-three-aos-lists-for-the-standoff-2025/Two cruciators and a lord vitriolic. Also a sorceress and chaos sorceress but you want to move the goalposts and lll play your tard game because you're still wrong. Next result:https://woehammer.com/2025/12/09/top-three-aos-lists-for-the-standoff-2025/Null kemist, Ikon of the Storm, Vampire Lord on foot.Next:https://woehammer.com/2025/12/05/top-three-aos-lists-for-fantasia-fanatic-xlviii-aos/Scinari, Cruciator, Squigboss again. Nexthttps://woehammer.com/2025/12/02/top-three-aos-lists-for-daboyz-gt-rochester-2025-aos-1v1/Master moulder for fucks sake, Squigboss, Ikon. Master fucking Moulder is placing first place in tournaments. This is literally the World Tournament and the first 4 results on Woehammer with 30 or more players. Yes, some heroes are not great, but you legitimately are making shit up to fit your dumbass agenda and moving the goalposts in order to STILL be wrong. Play the fucking game and you'd know that.
>>97145304stormcasts are actually easier to paint, giving depth to metallic surfaces is much easier because metallic paint already provides some shine from different angles
>>97145304Stormcast are piss easy to paint, honestly Skaven would be more of a hassle. But look into underworlds, you can probably find some sets of dudes cheap and they look much cooler.
It worries me that HoH got a shitty low effort 30 second video " trailer " just showing off the models and some stupid social media comments. Meanwhile TOW gets multiple minute long trailer with voice actors and unique art and production value for their releases. They hired the Miao Ying voice actress for it even.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh2wiJAR3bU
>>97145246>Disappeared when he was told the rulesLMAO
>>97145339So fucking cool.I know we got more CoS but these guys (esp the new Crane Gunners) proxy so well its almost unneeded.
>>97145207The quarterly report the year ToW released had it right behind aos and then it disappeared entirely in the two (three?) since
>>97145339still boggling how ugly the actual model for the longma rider is.
>>97145339Your general died again huh?
>>97145339And you have to admit, the art of the female characters is 100x better.
>>97145339what worries me is how much aos lives rent free in your head lmao
>>97145364Sometimes dead is better, if this thread is any indication.
>>97145284In general, the heresy and wfb ruleset attract people who have more thought invested into why they don't like aos or 40k than they have actual reasons to like wfb and heresy. This leads to them being very reactionary, very bitter, and very spiteful when they see the flagship games getting attention in any way at all, especially if it's something they feel entitled to(see: helsmiths). Then when they eventually receive some attention, they will go out into the communities for the game they don't like, in order to make sure everyone knows that their game is better/moresovlfvll/redpilled/etc. You get these people in the flagship games occasionally but they're more common in the side games
>>97145393maybe you should post in your own general then you mentally ill faggot
>>97145393This thread is fine when TWW/v/ermin aren't raiding the hell out of us crying that their dead game isn't more popular
>>97145307Yeah exactly. Whatever the fuck this thing is called just have them holding onto the T section instead of being harnessed in
>>97145312Also this nog is going to argue that Squigboss is actually a wizard. Like, I hate herohammer too, I want units led by foot heroes, but I also understand that this edition is one of the most favorable towards foot heroes accompanying units. Objectively, the random foot shitters are finally in a decent spot and showing up frequently in tournaments, even as no wizards (which is a stupid goal post because you take specific wizards because of what their warscroll does).
>>97145339Wow that really does blow the helsmith trailer out of the water. Maybe Valrak was right about there being powerful people in GW who love TOW and dislike AoS.
>>97145394>being very reactionary, very bitter, and very spitefulThis describes AoS fans though, like down to the letter. 40k is less bitter towards other systems but thats because they are too ignorant of them to are.
>>97145312i see you still didnt read the fucking post lolthe problem is not wizards, priests, or heroes with a useful ability (that last one, which i green carroted twice, is the one you seemed to have missed, TWICE)the problem are these do nothing chain fight heroes with bad combat profiles that basically dont have any other abilities, which GW repeatedly shits out in disproportionate numbers compared to other heroes with actually good abilities.you'd know these specific types of heroes >>97144936are what im talking about if you had any reading comprehension whatsoever, but you're a speedreading faggot who skipped most of the post, missed the point entirely, and drew your own wrong conclusions about the argument i was making and gave yourself an aneurism in the processlearntoread
>>97145339Im not. Hashut delivers us. The dust poster fears the BVLLFATHER.
>>97145350Fact Check: FALSE. None of the investors reports list revenue by game system. Also TOW is listed ahead of AoS in the investors reports for the last few of them.
>>97145304Retributor spraypaint is so smooth and shiny on its own that if you just spray them retributor, drybrush them silver and wash reikland or seraphim sepia they would look great. Metallics in general are really easy to make look pretty good with little effort. Skaven are a little fiddly, even more so than nids because rats have so many different materials they're carrying. You get cloth, bone, fur, skin, fabric, metal, warpstone, wood, whereas nids are pretty much just flesh, carapace, joints, claws
>>97145440No, that describes 1e AoS players who wanted to play WFB. Most people who came on after units actually had points didn't really care that much. "Oh, Warhammer is called Age of Sigmar? Cool, I'd like to buy one Kroq Gar please."Then they realize minis are very different from vidya and most never buy a second box or play the game, but that's because hobbying is its own thing and not focused on the game.
>>97145339You're looking at the budget from a partial perspective: tow used its budget for a voiceover and some transition effects over artwork and maps for the faction they're giving their one big release for, aos put its into a full blown cinematic for the edition.
>>97145350Why do you lie about something that takes 1 minute to check?
>>97145449So your entire point is that only the useful warscrolls get used at the highest level of tournament play? I'm sorry, I thought you had a point that wasn't retarded. My mistake, I understand you a lot better now.
>>97145461>listed ahead of AoS>implying this means anythingHAHAHAHH you faggots will really grasp at the tiniest straw possible
>>97145340The goatslopper is very shy these days, please understand. He can call people tourists but it's very scary for him to post his half painted ebay rescues he hasn't finished in 15 years
>>97145474>aos put its into a full blown cinematic for the edition.The Vermindoom cinematic was fucking sick, which is odd because we're halfway through 4e at this point and it feels like they haven't capitalized on it at all.Also remember "Sigmar Lied"? They really dropped that fast.
>>97145484Anon sometimes the obvious doesnt need to be stated. Let them have their own small victories.
>>97145304i didnt find metallics on the stormcast to be too hard. base coat one metallic, then drybrush with a lighter metallic where you think a highlight spot should bei like drybrushing with the vallejo metal color air metallics. those are really nice
>>97145484It says right there most venerable too. Which is GW officially telling you in a legal document they have released that they consider TOW to be more respected as a setting than AoS.
>>97145495>the shitposter is also illiteratecan't make this shit up
>>97145461Look at the effort put in the other games descriptions and look at the effort put into the aos one. Yeah, I am starting to think higher ups may have it out for aos.
>>97145493spears are cool. I would say underrated too but I think its more just that GW really prefers swords and axes for their minis.
>>97145440I mean, one could point at any number of the examples in this thread of wfb being petty, hysteric children in this very thread. It's not like towg gets raided on a daily basis by aosg
>>97145491>haven't capitalized on it at all.they released a whole miniseries expanding the story of the trailer
>>97145491It’s a shortcoming of how gw handles releases. You get the narrative advancement on edition launch then it’s almost like time freezes until the edition-end narrative books pick up.
>>97145480my point, which you keep missing, and hte origin of this whole post chain, is that getting more foot heroes is often more of a curse than a blessing because the current GW rules designers love to crap out these useless foot heroes, like the slittaboss just got for kruelboyz for example, that add nothing to the army, cost a fortune per model in cash, and just collect dust on your shelfyou're the one who, in their retarded stupor, started attributing a bunch of arguments i wasnt making and then getting mad at yourself over your own headcanon of what this conversation was even aboutfucking tilting at windmills in a daze of self inflicted confusiondumbass
>>97145480>>97145449Actually, I can do better than this, although respectfully I do think you are a fucking retard. I will specifically address your extremely niche complaint that affects maybe 20% of the foot heroes in the game. Chain fight is only useful on a hammer, not an anvil. But chain fight is a pretty fair and useful ability in a vacuum. Because hammers need to be mobile, the heroes who can chain fight and are mounted are useful. When you put that same ability on an infantry hero, who accompanied an infantry block which is likely a screen and not a hammer, that ability becomes a cheap but balanced ability that probably doesn't do much. So these heroes are effectively just placeholders for enhancements. If you make them just a monstrous combat profile on foot for 90 points that's obviously bad balance. So instead they make them passable, put this filler ability on them so the warscroll isn't blank, and release them because releasing models is more important than balancing every single meaningless foot hero. Again, your entire point is deeply retarded and so are you, but I apologize for not correctly addressing your actual complaint. I was incensed by what a fucking retard you are, and I should have done better.
>>97145510yeah, the spears are fine, but i kinda wish they would stop giving multi wound elite models on 40mm bases 2 attacks at 1 damage a swing
>>97145461Ivc2 quarterly report you dumb nigger
>>97145520Not watching some 10FPS animation slop, sorry. Its a wargame, I want it to develop in the books and campaigns. >>97145521Yeah 40k also has the same issue. Not to stir the hornets nest BUT TOW has surprisingly done a decent job so far since each AJ builds up on the previous one. Timeline is actually moving forward at a decent pace which I'd love AoS to try.
>>97145554The ICv2 doesn't release quarterlies you illiterate churlish ape
>>97145493How are those createx airbrush paints. I've been meaning to explore more of the stuff used by statue painted and scale modeling guys
>>97145562>Spring report>Summer report>Fall report>Winter reportGee, almost like they're quarterly or something retard
>>97145569Inb4 they don't call it that so I win haha XD
>>97145556why would anyone buy an arcane journal for a faction that they dont own or care about.
>>97145569They don't release reports with that consistency you newfag retard
>>97145548>heroes who can chain fight and are mountedwe're not talking about those, and never were>So these heroes are effectively just placeholders for enhancementsdemonstrably worse than other heroes then and skipped 100% of the time if any alternative is available.you're really not making a strong case here retard
>>97145569>>97145572told you he's illiterate
>>97145574There are collectors, but GW is aware of that so the AJ since Cathay dropped have had content for all armies in them (smaller game rules, new magic common items, etc).
>>97145575Yes they do, they just don't always fully release them You can continue to cope however you like but you're grasping for straws and coming back empty
>>97145456TOWelheads fear the Chorf Chads>i'm waking up to flops and dust>some dorfs are brown but my chorfs are chuds
>>97145563never tried em. im not a very adventurous painter when it comes to trying new products, i tend to stick to a pretty small selection of stuff i'm familiar with. a friend of mine though leaned in to the scale model techniques and his stuff looks amazing, so if you're willing to put in the effort to learn that workflow, you can definitely get some great results
>>97145606Oh apologies, I seen the createx thinner on your desk and assumed you tried the paints too. Dang. I've heard theyre really nice, I know the Weta workshop guys really like them
>>97145588>Yes they do, they just don't always fully release themWhat the fuck does that even mean. They either release them each quarter, in which case they are quarterlies, or they don't. In which case they are not. What is this semantic retardation.
>>97145625i got that along with a starter airbrush to give airbrushing a shot, but i tried some thinned citadel white and it immediately clogged the airbrush and bricked it as the paint separated into particulates from the thinner, and i havent touched it since
>>97145687They're not always uploaded to their public site? Is this hard to understand for your withered brain?
>>97145720So if a person has a paid account, they should be able to access them yes? Or are they just not released at all. Greedily kept locked away? What's your story now?
>>97145579I brought up mounted units to contrast when the ability is fine, to illustrate you don't have a problem with the effect.Your complaint is that sometimes a balanced ability isn't optimal on a foot hero and people who want to WAAC don't take bad units. That's a fucking stupid point. Everyone knows that. I tried to come up with an actually meaningful point to argue against but you keep emphasizing that you somehow expect every foot hero to have a unique and necessary effect. This game has a hundred heroes and maybe 8 of them meet your criteria, and they'd be literally blank if they didn't have that ability. Yes, of course they're demonstrably worse than other heroes, just like the ten million wizards or priests who cost 10 points more than the cheaper version. You are seeing an emergent phenomenon - not all combinations of stats and abilities are optimal - and the complaining about the tiny, tiny slice of cases where that presents as sequential fight abilities.
>>97145691I find citadel whites really behave strangely with alcohol based thinners, you should pick up a little vial of white artist ink when you decide to give it another shot, it'll never clog up on you while you're spraying unless you're spraying for like an hour straight. It's also the brightest, smoothest, cleanest white you can get, you just need to varnish after so it doesn't reactivate
Stupid question that everyone knows: what is the version of Christmas in the 3 Warhammer universes?
>>97145764Sanguinala for 40k
>>97145745They're taken from their quarterly powerpoints or whatever. Here's another one I've found, without ToW in it as well, incidentally.
>>97145745They're released at meetings, that spell it out enough for you you fucking mongoloid
>>97145764Not sure what it's called in AoS, but KO celebrate it given all the Christmas contnet they made for the Brewmaster
>>97145764Fantasy had Mondstille, not sure if AoS has anything.
>>97145283It's almost inconceivable that HH would chart at all. It is very much not a normie warhammer.
>>97145777I love that they used to bring up that singular report they were present on and posting "ticktock" memes but now suddenly these reports don't mean anything
>>97145402I can't wait til 40k gets announced and the secondaries become their problem
>>97145835they're shitposters anon I'm not sure what you were expecting
>>97143758Those 20 extra threads don't even cover the yearly output of one (1) of this general's dedicated shitposters and there are several. We should all be worried if that's the extent of our flex.
>>97145855>welmao
>>97145855anon. I used to visit that general regularly before tow hit. /wfg/ has been in the shitter for a while now. Wouldnt surprise me if perry anon still visits those threads.
>>97145835tow and hh were never present on any report
>>97145844It's never happening, 40kings don't want totalwarsloppa
>>97145890>40kings don't want totalwarsloppathey've been crying for it since the first teaser trailer of total war warhammer
>>97145890Why do you say that? 40k has a lot of video games, everyone who plays 40k is a secondary. They love DoW, Space Marine, and there's a bunch of B/B+ titles that are well received like Mechanicus and Gladius
>>97145889I remember one at one point, but I can't say I ever paid much attention to the towseethers before they decided to put 22hours a day into crying about a game they don't play, so it could've been shopped or I'm just misremembering. Maybe it was just age of sigmar not being top 5 in one of them? I dunno, either way it's funny seeing their bait flipped on them
>>97144116Wonder what's the overlap between deportable beaners and the stormcast secondary market? It's pretty much the only AoS army somone who would be afraid of ICE can afford.
>>97145906No they haven't lmao>>97145911Because dawn of war is infinitely better than the pseudslop that is total war
>>97145911Secondary used to mean anyone who got into something from videogames and/or didn't engage with said something apart from videogames, not just anyone who also plays videogames.
>>97145495Venerable in this case is just embellished corpospeak for 'oldest', which you should be able to grasp from context clues (like the immediate clarification that the original incarnation is from 1983), but since you're esl you get a pass.>>97145855>hahahaha look how inactive /aosg/ is!>oh they're more active than tow? Uhh you should be worried anyway!!Lel just take the L brother. And that's not even mentioning the whole "wfg is pickin up steam this year!!" when it's down one hundred fucking threads lol. >>97143925All in all an embarrassing day for doomposters and twg secondaries.
>>97145890>>9714590640k will be announced at the VGA on the 11th. That or Star Wars (pls let it be stars wars it would b so funny)
It really is /twg/ sea monkeys.
>>97145941Every fucking thread has been getting raided for like the past week, I don't understanddddddd.
>>97145941>Venerable in this case is just embellished corpospeak for 'oldest', which you should be able to grasp from context clues (like the immediate clarification that the original incarnation is from 1983), but since you're esl you get a pass.Venerable is a word that exists to express a measure of respect and not a temporal descriptor.
>>97145954I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but no anons right. You are esl.
>>97145954It's both, people used to respect the old.
>>97145967>above average command of the English language means you are ESLPeak American hours.
>>97145932No, secondary has always meant somebody who consumes secondary media, as opposed to a primary who engaged with the actual wargaming and modeling aspects of the hobby
>>97145976>>above average command of the English language>>vEnErAbLe CaN't MeAn OlD
>>97146000I said that venerable is not a synonym for old. Which you continue to falsely claim that it is.
It’s actually kind of funny the aos general cries this much about secondaries. What fucking secondaries, aos doesn’t have a good video game and never will.
>>97146004>I said that venerable is not a synonym for old.No, you said it cannot mean old.>>97145954>Venerable is a word that exists to express a measure of respect and not a temporal descriptor.
>>97146026Post your half painted goats again lmao
>>97146026AoS has a great triple a game that shows how much more interested the public is in our IP over TOW!
>>97146026>What fucking secondaries40k and tow secondaries are still warhammer secondaries
>>97146041>Secondaries thinking vidyaslop mattersNow that the dust has settled, why did Tow flop?
>>97145954>>97145976You see in western countries our language classes typically go beyond mere grammar from age 12 or so, and start educating children in more abstract linguistical concepts such as text vs subtext. For example, when a corporation is talking about something 'venerable' it's more than likely a linguistical embellishment for just something old, especially when the exact age of the subject is immediately clarified.I'm aware that due to developmental differences between the west and the global south (and canada), the latter tend to focus on more baseline grammatical subjects during the educational years, so again, this isn't really your fault.
>>97146041>triple A>team was like 5 people with no oversightlol. lmao
>>97146067Yeah I have seen the outcomes of the American English curriculum. Quite the sight and unlike anything else anywhere in the world outside deepest Africa.
>>97146026Yeah that's the point retard, it's not *our* secondaries that come to shitstir in the thread. Actual 3rd grade logical reasoning skills this guy.
>>97146046Oh it does for gw. After total war and space marine 2, and now total war warhammer 40k in a few days, they will care. A lot.
>>97146106Lmao keep dreaming /v/ermin
>be excited to start new Idoneth Spearhead>open up box>the eels are on those incredibly incredibly shitty single point of tiny contact clear plastic flying stands instead of ball and socket like literally any other GW model that isnt garbageGood god why, why. I've completely lost interest in ever playing them now. Why did GW ever think having a clear plastic stand that needs to be glued on to an unpainted model before primer was in any way shape or form a good idea. Yeah I can drill it out or make my own stand but thats a big extra step on an army that's going to be composed of a lot of these.
>>97146106If video game secondaries are such an important bolster to your games popularity why is tow less popular than aos in every metric with actual reported numbers outside of the video games when aos has no popular games?
>>97146152Paint it before you attach the stand?
>>97146193Why do you say it like there's more than the ICv2 that you're talking about?
>>97146098>americanLike I said, global south.
>>97146041I unironically in all sincerity played Realm of Ruin recently (beat the campaign) and it was actually a very good game. It's just that it has a very steep learning curve and appears deceptively simple, the difficulty spikes to the extreme due to the lack of tool tips on Chapter 4 and the entire game is basically a very high APM MOBA with some RTS framework thrown in because muh Dawn of War. All the devs had to do was be more honest about how it isnt anything like Dawn of War and have a much more in-depth and extended tutorial and it probably would have done way better.
>>97146152Half the fun in idoenth is getting creative with their bases.
>>97146152> but thats a big extra step on an army that's going to be composed of a lot of these.even an army thats all in on eels only tends to fit like 18-24 of them in a list. so like, i get you, but its not like you have to do it for 100 grots or something. it will be worth the effort. could also try to attach them via basing terrain instead
>>97146221Maybe if it was attached to anything other than Age of Sigmar. As much as we enjoy it, it's pretty clear it's like poison for normies.
>>97146237Are those helmets part of the kit?
>>97146221i liked the story, the ending was fantastic. i didnt care for the fact that you could very easily lose story missions in a non obvious way within 2 minutes of starting the level on the easiest difficulty. the multiplayer could have been good if the game actually played well but the controls and systems were kinda fucked by some bad decisions.the level editor and army painter were great, but that doesnt matter much when the game plays poorly.
>>97146201>tournament stats>4chan general traffic>subreddit population>stock levels of products at retailers>amount of media created for them(community articles, white dwarf mentions, sponsored content by 3rd party creators)Because there is, you're just going to claim none of it matters. Aos mogs tow pretty much everywhere aside from video games sales and that's just because gw keeps hiring companies that make mobile games to make them
>>97146259NTA.Yes. They’re the helmets for the Ishlaen Guard, the more defensive oriented eels.
>>97146238Everyone knows how much normies like boring, mudshitter, potato sack generic fantasy!
>>97146263I honestly thought it was grim seeing the company who made that one steampunk game take up dawn of war 4. I know the video game industry is a bit fucked rn but you’d think there are other companies out there that can something good.
>>97146259yeah. 2 helmet variants for the sword and spear version, though you can use either one with either loadout. you've got those sleek full faceguard helms which are meant to be the sword ones and then the greek crest style helms which are meant to be the spear ones. there's also unit champion helmet variants for both
>>97146263Which makes it all the funnier that TOW is on the path to overtake AoS. Screenshot this 5th edition is the last AoS edition.
>>97146262Did you play on PC or Console? For PC I thought the controls and systems were perfectly fine, but I cannot in any way imagine playing this game on console. The amount of times throughout the game that you need to fly across the map to retreat units or just micromanage positioning in general sounds like a nightmare on a gamepad.
>>97146269It's more so that they are repulsed by AoS. For a normie it's like looking at cockroaches or a bunch of wriggling worms. It's the same kind of disgust learning about AoS lore or looking at the characters that aren't aped from fantasy.
>>97146273Iron harvest? Didn't even know dow4 was not being done by the usual guys desu
>he is still baiting after several days
>>97146280TOW dropping off the face of the earth immediately is it being on track to overtake the setting infinitely more popular than it?
>>97146301His general is dead please understand
>>97146301We need a nickname for him so it's easier to call him out
>>97146301literal autism, I could understand doing it for a day or two but keeping it up this long is just sad
>>97146317i wonder if it is still ben
Good evening /aosg/, I see there's been a couple of shitposter melties today? I wonder what's got them so riled up on a normal tuesday. Is it a national holiday in canada or what?
>>97146280>is on the path to overtake AoSBased on what metric? Certainly none of the ones mentioned here>>97146263
>>97146330I'm not seeing the issue here.
>>97145932>>97145995I'm not gonna argue what the word means, but in this context I used it to mean "someone whose primary exposure to Warhammer was non-tabletop media who then converted to a table top player". Everyone consumes secondary media, I don't think that's a good definition
>>97146317It's the goatslopper he got pinned to the ropes the other night and admitted it
>>97146339>Everyone consumes secondary mediaNope
>>97146340which one is that? Is that beastmen are kragnos autist?
>>97146301I choose to think this is all 1 or 2 shitposters samefagging because I refuse to believe multiple people actually engage with bait this obvious
>>97146346It's a guy with 5 half painted metal beastmen who seethes about modern 40k and all of aos and claims to be a 45 year old grog
>>97146348That's been my assumption is just him responding to himself back and fourth until someone else can hop in.>>97146351Less exciting but I mean, I guess that tracks. Not even fully painted...? Christ.
>>97146350what a blunder
>>97146348No I am one of the shitposters (there are a few of us at least but we aren't together) and it's not me samefagging lmao. People here are a lot of fun
>>97146356>That's been my assumption is just him responding to himself back and fourth until someone else can hop inThat's always been my theory as the easiest way to bait /tg/. Just argue with yourself until someone retarded enough joins in
>>97146378>It's not me samefagging it's me and one other raider RPing and circlejerking eachotherOk
>>97146340The goatslopper was here again?>>97146346No it's a shitposter who got tired of being asked to post models so he bought some beastmen on ebay and put a basecoat on them and has been using that as proof that he's a true grog or something. Those beasts have been "wip" for the better part of 2025. He made the nr 1 mistake for shitposters, that is, actually caring. Just couldn't help himself the poor fella.>>97146348You're giving this board far too much credit. Even the lowest of the low "uh oh aossies gw is taking us out back tomorrow" bait will get swamped with replies.
>>97146410This reminds me of middle school, my science class room was right next to the special ed class and every now and again they'd go into the wrong room and just start yelping and screaming at students until the chaperone pushed them back into the other door.>>97146378If that's true that's more sad than anything else, I mean it's not, you're just some random person but still.
Anyone got a pdf of the 3rd ed Ogor Mawtribes battletome?
>>97146506Wait I meant the 2nd edition one, though if someone does have the 3rd that could be worth a read too.
>>97146427>someone actually was pathetic enough to spend money to try and win arguments on 4chanplease be true lmao
>>97146506>>971465192nd was back when GW did official pdfs, so good ones shoud be around online, but i don't have them
>>97146532I just don't understand why you'd be fucking around on /tg/ of all the boards if you're not into the hobby. It's such a strange concept.
>>97146543I used to have all of the 2nd edition pdfs on my old laptop before I lost it in a fire, and stupidly I never thought to back it up because there used to be the Mega on here I thought worked for that.
Ushoran's model is cool enough for me to try to give AOS a chance so does anyone have any tips on building an army for flesh eaters?
>>97146560the mind of an autist works differently from ours anon, I wouldn't bother trying to understand it
>>97146560Total war and its consequences
>>97146591You should check out TOW, the guy who sculpted Ushoran is the new head sculptor for them.
>>97146591Buy last year's battleforce box. It didnt sell well and its still around.Pick up one of the spearheads, preferably the old one but the new one's fine too. Pick up ushoran.Paint them up, see how it feels, then round out your army.
>>97146591Telepathically paging ghoulanon for you
>>97146427Yeah he was here the other night lashing out at a spiderfang player for asking him why he doesn't just play with his models
>>97141890They need to make a Warscroll for him.
>>97146608>game is so dead you have to shill it in a different generalgrim
>>97146591AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FINALLY ANOTHER GHOUL PLAYER.My best advice I'll put below (other than buying second hand because it's cheaper)But there's a few variants of ghouls, you can get your monster mash with lots of Terrorgheists and Zombie Dragons (with or without ghoul kings, they function well either way)you'll probably want at least the Cardinal for prayers and the Archreagant since it's a 2 cast hero.you got your Morbhegs and massively fast super killer cavalry (can be revived alongside all your other cav and infantry!) you can get crypthorrors (and if you want it cheapter pick up the gorger kit for warcry because it's effectively the same thing, same base size, and you get more) pick up the battleforce box or the army box if you can find it cheap (comes with a bit of everything and a nice hero) I don't know if I'd highly reccomend the ghoul swarm (unless you really like horde) since it might be getting updated alongside the crypt horror/flayer kit. I haven't had a chance to touch them too much since the new book came out but they're a very fun faction with lots of big hits and Ushoran gets a spell where you can make the enemy hero bonk whoevers closest if they don't consider positioning as much.
>>97146560Some very boring people make disliking something a whole hobby. As to why they pick one thing over another to shitstir about I couldn't tell you.
>>97146654Whoa it worked>>97146614
>>97146663Technically I think I'm the other ghoul anon but it works. I think there's a whopping 2 of us in the thread.
uh oh AoSsies GW is taking us out back tomorrow!
>>97142640Ngl, his propaganda bits in the faction review videos were nice. He's got a vibe that makes those vids entertaining to listen.Should've made more of that and used the alt to go over stats and rules. AoS is not 40k, where there's a substantial demand for weekly meta>>97142682I played against monster truck spam once in 3rd ed and I'm kind of glad it got gutted in 4th ed
>>97146654>the crypt horror kit is about the same price as the gorgersWhat the fuck how did that happen? They're from like 2012 or something.Nta but thanks for the writeup anon, ghoulchads truly are the best of us.
>>97146685Anytime I get to chat about the game is nice, even though I don't get as many chances to play as I'd like. (Or paint as many models but that's just because I've horribly expanded my army list)
>>97146685>What the fuck how did that happen?the ghoul kit has actual options
>>97146663I don't think that's THE ghoulchad, unless we're thinking about different people. There's one guy that used to have an entire fucking closet shelf of ghouls, before the refresh in 3rd edition. Been a while since I've seen him around though.I have seen this other guy's ushoran around and he's pretty cool too though.
>>97143134>he is an autisitc(propably given considering this hobby) No fun allowed can't counter a charge army retardIronic considering he hates Bretonia
