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MMC cheaps out again, twice
Can't even be bothered to mold new cannons

Old tread:
>>6422311
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>>6425072
>Can't even be bothered to mold new cannons

nigger the fuck are you talking about

Meanwhile, turns out that TFCon just kind of forgot to include the Planet X panel slides. Oops?
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>>6425113

going armor instead of remold was a mistake
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>>6425116

a huge fucking mistake
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>>6425117

dat megatron tho
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>>6425127

fucking finally
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>>6425132

What are these?

>>6425113

He's whining about Thunderclash's cannons for some reason. When MMC has always taken design liberties with it's figures. But I do agree in that they're doing way too many remolds, what are they, fucking Hasbro? This shit isn't acceptable for $85-100+ figures unless it's literally the only way to do the character (ie: Seekers are all just recolors with at best different facial expressions or something) nd remain true to it.
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>>6425155
WfC/FoC Insecticons
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>>6425226

Ohh, cool. When is the Vulcan re-release, did they say? Is it just going to be the "premium" one, or are they going to re-release the original version too?

Just asking because I liked the plastic colors of the original, I'd prefer it over a dipped-in-paint version, but I missed out on the original.
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>>6425184
>I really think he should continue to tell GT "No" both for his own legal safety and because clearly that's what he wants.

That's really all he can do at this point. It likely won't stop the figures but at least it helps his case in the event HasTak's lawyers come for him. If he has no involvement and can prove that, I'm not sure what they can really do to him since just doing fanart isn't illegal and he had no way of knowing a Chinese company would swoop in and steal his work to make figures out of.
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>>6425233

The best thing for him to do probably would've been to never acknowledge their existence in the first place. If you didn't even know it existed, you couldn't be connected to it.

Plausible deniability, and all that. But he already fucking commented on it, so it's there forever now.
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>>6425155

you do know that steel molds are fucking expensive and that MMC doesn't have FT money right? They kinda have to remold/repaint to make money to keep making new stuff. That's just how it works.

They can tone it back some yeah, but I think that's what their crowdfunding thing is going to be for. Already heard that Machine War Optimus will probably be done that way.
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>>6425228
>When is the Vulcan re-release
November at RobotKingdom, so December-January everywhere else.
http://www.robotkingdom.com/px-06vm.html
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>>6425242
>you do know that steel molds are fucking expensive and that MMC doesn't have FT money right?

I thought MMC was one of the highest, if not the highest, selling companies? Pretty much everyone fellated them for Hexatron, the DJD, Overlord, their Predacons, etc. Only recently have that started to catch flak for that supremely shitty Lockdown/Cyclonus.

Also since when is FT rich? I don't know a thing about them honestly, and never bought anything they put out.
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>>6425245
Their Reformatted is profitable and popular, but as long as they can retool same mold to fit several characters. 3p business is all MP Sunbow rage sadly.
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>>6425245
Fanstoys is the best selling 3p company man. Almost every figure they make sells out release week. They have money.
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>>6425132
Muh dick!
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Ooh, that MT Starscream looks so good.
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Knowing that I
>own combiner wars shockwave
>consider him one of my favorite toys

Why the fuck am I about to buy this guy too?
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>>6425297
The Council of Shockwaves is always recruiting
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>>6425297
Those both look so good.
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>>6425297
Better articulation. More accurate-er.

I wanna get one of those but I really dislike the whole laserfist thing on shockwave toys.
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>>6425132
FUCKING IRONHIDE WHEN????!?!!??!
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>>6425297
Christ, that Thundercracker is pure sex.
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>>6425132
I'm being selfish here, but is there any hope of Warpath actually getting a decent figure? I got my perfect FoC Dinobots, so he's really all I want.
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>>6425297
Is the discount still on?
link please?
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Why hasn't some third party made an initial D themed stunticons set yet?
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>>6425297
He's pretty cheap and Iron Factory makes the best legends figures.
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>>6425245
Fans Toys makes the most popular 3P figures in the most sought after scale.

This is just pure speculation but I don't think MMC's Ocular Max line has done that hot and is the reason for the drop in quality.
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>>6425359
seconding this, lost the link to the discounted bridge watcher and 3pmp megatron
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>>6425340

They haven't even gotten around to Shockwave and Ironhide yet. But he does feel inevitable. At this rate I won't be surprised if they end up doing everyone.

>>6425412
>This is just pure speculation but I don't think MMC's Ocular Max line has done that hot and is the reason for the drop in quality.

The QC problems started with their second release, so no. This has been touched on too by some of the designers working for them. The factory they use for the OM stuff is a new one that turned out to be unreliable at best and shit at worst.
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>>6425414
>>6425359
Seems like everybody except BBTS. I know for a fact the chosen prime and tfsource have him for 25.
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>>6425359
>>6425414
https://tfsource.com/ironfactory/IF-EX21-bridge-watcher/
Other places probably have him for that price too if you prefer but Im a lazy fuck and just ordered mine from them so there you go.
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>>6425305

Why do they do that? He didn't have fucking laser hands in the cartoon or the comics. Did the original toy have laserfists?
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>looking to preorder for some upcoming stuff at the end of july/august
>looking for something I missed along with it
>its only in stock at TFS

Do I risk preordering at TFS and not seeing anything until November?
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>>6425412
>in the most sought after scale.

MP size was a fucking mistake. I don't mind the aesthetic, but I don't need 9+ inch behemoths on my shelves for every single minor fucking character any company ever decides to shit out.

I hope Iron Factory's owner literally runs FTs down in the street.
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>>6425428
>Did the original toy have laserfists?

Bingo. I guess people just like it a lot.
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After following all the drama over GT's beast formers this seems to be the order of events:

>GT contacts T-Beast artist to tell him they're using his designs
>Guy is cool with it
>TFCon rolls around and the reveals come out
>Jap officialcucks start giving the artist shit on twitter for daring to make a profit off HasTak's IP
>Artist sees the TFandom is retarded and washes his hands of it all, says GT never contacted him and he's done drawing Transformers
>GT posts some message about wanting to do original designs in the future
>A chinese dude on facebook says something about the situation
>moron on TFW sees his big chance to post a hot scoop runs the chinese facebook post through google translate and posts the line is being cancelled in all the threads about it.
>Actual 3P insider daimchoc shows up and tells him not to post things without fact checking
>Guy apologizes and deletes everything
>Line isn't actually cancelled
>Artist is salty that he still has to deal with fanboys.

That sound about right?
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>>6425428
Im more bothered by his eye, I really wish it were yellow, I think it'd stand out better against all the purple and pink on him already.

Still getting him of course though.
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>>6425439
>>Artist is salty that he still has to deal with fanboys.
Poor artist dude, at least he's learned you should never make transformers art.
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>>6425439
Im sorry to be asking, but could you post a link that has all of these pictures? One posted couple threads ago seem to have missed a few
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>>6425447

I find it funny there are even IP-fags in Japan, the land of millions of unofficial, unlicensed doujins.
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>>6425439
>Jap officialcucks start giving the artist shit on twitter
TAKARA WINS AGAIN
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>>6425455
That's because these are from the second book. I am currently searching for online gallery.
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>>6425455
https://e-hentai.org/g/945314/0b7c1d59d5/
That Dirge picture is from the second book he did. If people want to see the rest of them I'll post them but I don't want to spam the fuck out of the thread.
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>>6425468
Oh, alright. Thank you.
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>>6425469
>That Dirge picture is from the second book he did.

Da fuq. Didn't even know there was a second book. Is there a link to it somewhere? Tried looking it up on e-hentai but no luck.
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>>6425479
I'm way more interested in theBW characters as mecha beasts than the G1 characters. And I actually do like organic beast modes, unlike a lot of people, but these are just cool. while the G1 non-beasts as beasts are cool it'd feel weird owning a lot of them when I'e yet to own a definitive version of their regular look. These at least can fit in decently with a BW collection.
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>>6425487
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>>6425479
The people designing the characters for the official shows and movies should take note.

THIS is how you design a transformers character, with the transformation in mind rather than being left up to animation magic. This gives the toy makers a clear foundation to build off of when making their toys.

I feel like all the American series were character design first, toy second while all the Japan produced series structured the character designs around the toys.
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>>6425233
>>6425234

But did he actually do ALL the designs in the book? Look at the signatures, they're all credited to different designers. Aesthetically its clear there's a bunch of different styles.
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>>6425507
He didn't, but I don't see why that's relevant here when the design that was used was his design.
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>>6425515
>I turn into nothing
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>>6425498
>I feel like all the American series were character design first, toy second while all the Japan produced series structured the character designs around the toys.

Beast wars had the toys to use for reference, and the process was far more streamlined going forward for the transmetals, which I hear were actually designed by mainframe and engineered by HasTak, but don't quote me. Beast Machines was rushed. For all the worries about animated's art style, Derrick Wyatt was a TF fan and the designs were workable in real life. Really its the damn movies, especially the last few(ever since DOTM they've let the designers do what they want), and Prime/RiD 2015 that really suffer from ignoring any proper structure.
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>>6425511
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Wait I recognize these. TRION?
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>>6425489

>bay OP has a giant dick

kek
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>>6425522
I just remember watching RiD back in the early 2000s and being amazed that the robots in the show transformed Identically to how the toys worked.

Fucking combing Prime and Magnus starts with a goddamn handshake.
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>>6425502

goddamnit dont make me want a toy of this
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Perfect Effect beat GT to the punch and already lifted a design from these books.
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>>6425535

Hope they end up doing this one as a new Dinobot guy, he'd look sick in silver/red/gold.
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The End.
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>>6425498
>I feel like all the American series were character design first, toy second while all the Japan produced series structured the character designs around the toys.
well you couldn't really be more wrong about that feeling
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>>6425509
>>6425542
>>6425545
>even in the fantasy world of fan artbooks, remolds are rampant
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>>6425552
G1 excluded, obviously.

I just remember RiD and Armada character models pretty much matching the toys to a T (never watched Cybertron or Energon so no comment there).
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>>6425538
They did a shit job of it, though; also the idea predates this book.
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>>6425498
>I feel like all the American series were character design first, toy second while all the Japan produced series structured the character designs around the toys
>he hasn't seen all the bullshit SoC, SHE, and DX Valks have to come up with in order to make anime magic transformations real
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>>6425556
>I just remember RiD and Armada character models pretty much matching the toys to a T
hi
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>>6425305

If you didn't know, this figure comes with a set of alternate hands, so you can remove the gun hand if you don't like it.

(Some promo images I've seen make it look like you have to remove the gun hand in order to transform him, otherwise it sticks out awkwardly in gun mode).
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>>6425533
Hnnnnngh
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>>6425562
Scavenger didn't do it to a T, but that's still pretty on point with the show model when you get past the giant gimmick brick of a lower body.
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>>6425383
Because until we get a set of stunticons everyone is happy with, any deviation from G1 style will just get shat on.
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You are awesome. Thank you very much
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>>6425587
>Some promo images I've seen make it look like you have to remove the gun hand in order to transform him, otherwise it sticks out awkwardly in gun mode

This has been the one sticking point (ho ho ho) about him for me. I'm still getting him for certain, but seeing that one part did let me down a bit. Some part of me also wishes he was smaller (or War Giant bigger) simply so it didn't look so awkward when held.
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>>6425587
I meant I would prefer an opaque set of hands/guns for him. I've never been a fan of the clear plastic hands.

I know liking it is sacrilege around here, but that's actually one of the reasons I actually like the MP, since they provided the option.
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>>6425614

Ah - now I understand. That makes a lot more sense - I'd thought you must be some weirdo who didn't like the idea of Shockwave having his distinctive weapon hand...

MP29 is a solid figure. Just wish it was a darker purple (and maybe a little bit taller).
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>>6425506
>original
>but still follows that stupid fucking IDW look
no
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>better looking combiner than almost every other 3P combiner on the market
>it's just a reshell and upscale of the official aerialbots

LOL
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>>6425650
I'm hoping they also make a new Menasor using CW Hot Spot as the base to be remolded into Motormaster.
The actual CW Motormaster's engineering is a mess and they have a better chance of making a truck with a trailer from it, scalefags be damned.
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>>6425650
It's an upscale? Shit, I was hoping for an improved Motormaster to use with my figures.
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>>6425650

Nah, those dumbass looking limbs (especially the elbows) ruin it.
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>>6425650
>better looking

That's fucking trash. How much takara dick do you ride to think that's good? Officialfags should be gassed.
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>>6425439
It's TFW so take it with a grain of salt but here's a translation somebody there made of the tweets.

If any of this is to be believed, it sounds like the artist was never contacted by GT regarding use of his designs. He saw the reveal at TFCon and immediately contacted his friend at Takara to clear the air about him being involved. According to this translation, he's going to stop doing TF art, not because of fanboys or any of that shit, but because he doesn't want to risk getting involved in any legal gray areas where folks think he's turning a profit off of toys based on fanart designs.

It still sounds like he neither condones nor condemns the idea of the figures being made, he just doesn't want to risk getting into legal trouble or have his rep be damaged with folks thinking he's trying to use somebody else's IP for mass-produced merchandise.

Granted, I don't know much else about what went down on twitter in Japan-land (though I believe it probably was a fanboy shitshow) or how that may have changed his demeanor on the situation but it sounds like he has no intention of trying to stop the line, he just wants people to know he isn't involved.
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>>6425690
To be fair, he's not entirely wrong. There really hasn't been a good looking 3rd Party Superion set. That being said, only Superion itself looks any good on the official toy and it still doesn't look THAT good. The individual bots, on the other hand look like shit. 3rd party has it beat in that area but it's almost moot when they look like shit combined.

Basically, there still really isn't a good Superion set, official or otherwise. You either get a decent looking Superion and shitty individual bots or a shitty looking Superion and pretty cool looking individual bots. That or you continue to wait until somebody finally gets it all right. Pick your poison.
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>>6425650
The CW combiner port system is unironically better than most of the shit 3Ps use. It's stable and you don't need to actually force anything. The way Devastator combined with multiple locking parts at different points of the limb was also better than anything I've seen a 3P do.
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>>6425717
>giant, thick, stable, heavy ratcheted pegs
>easy to connect or disconnect
>no one has fucking copied it yet

Only 3P combiner I own is MMC's Predaking, and his ratchets are good (well...Except for my one leg's ratchet which is for some reason weaker than the other, dunno why, but no one else I've talked to seems to have this issue and I've owned him for so long I don't think MMC would do anything about it), but man, I'd like to see some CW style connectors on 3P stuff.
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>>6425717

While I agree combiner designers need to stop humping ports as the end all be all for combiners, the CW ports couldn't do much but stand with their shitty feet. The official sets with new feet and various upgrade kits made it obvious how unstable they were with ankle tilts.
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>>6425502

Holy crap. I want this. I want this bad.
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>>6425695
sound like the dude is making the right choice, although I cannot imagine Has/Tak taking action against these saying as they have never legally gone after any 3ps, or at least not to my knowledge.
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>>6425502
this is the only one of these things I like. This is actually clever.
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>>6425695
Thats pretty shitty of them to start production on figures without the artist consent and it's a shame that the guys gonna stop making fanart since these design look fantastic. But it is the smart thing to do.
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>>6425690
I don't know why people are so butthurt about UW/CW. OK, wait, I get the CW hate, because that line was a clusterfuck of weird distribution and retarded groupings. But generally, the toys were pretty good. If Hasbro had just done a few things things smarter...

1. For God's sake, just give us the original teams with their original members. Then make your 2-4 new sets with Rook, Alpha Bravo, Offroad, and non-Ark recolors/retools of everybody else.

2. It would've been nice for all of the leaders to be separate molds.

3. Gifsets along with singles would've been a terrific throwback to 1985/1986. Giftsets could've been online exclusive for collectors and leave the mix and match random store stock to kids.

4. Devastator at a comparable size to everybody else would've been great. Even a little bigger, because six deluxes, would've been OK. But the 2-foot tall bit ensured it would be expensive and nobody would stock it.
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>>6425795
>4. Devastator at a comparable size to everybody else would've been great.

Thanks to this, my only choices for a Devastator are a huge fucking monster that scales with nothing in a regular collection, or a $600 GT Devy.

Y'know what, did they say what the G2 box set is gonna cost? Because if that shit is $300 or so, I'll go for it.
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>>6425717
>The way Devastator combined with multiple locking parts at different points of the limb was also better than anything I've seen a 3P do.

Say what you want about CW Devy but the fucker is probably the most solid combiner I have. I don't think I've had a single connection come undone handling mine.

>>6425816
I've hear rumors that there was a push from Takara to make the Constructicons voyagers so they would scale better with MPs.
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>>6425816
BBTS has Maketoys Green Giant for $300. And a company called NBK is doing a KO of GT, figures running about $20 each.
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>>6425831
>I've hear rumors that there was a push from Takara to make the Constructicons voyagers so they would scale better with MPs.
Which would've been OK if they hadn't simplified them so they wouldn't fit with those MPs.
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>>6425744
It's less about HasTak going after GT and more about making sure HasTak doesn't come after HIM. It's pretty well established at this point that these third party companies can get away with whatever.

>>6425778
Technically, it's shitty that they do TFs at all without consent because it's not their IP. The only reason we think that's ok but this isn't is because HasTak is a faceless corporation and this is an identifiable, relatable individual. In either case, we're still getting high quality bootlegs though lol
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F
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>>6425674
I don't know why some people are so autistic about elbows being formed by the legs. If it helps the robots get solid connectors that can also allow them to scramble and don't need to be disemboweled just to give clean elbows I couldn't care less about MUH elbows.
I also like reminders of it being a combiner so I might biased.

>>6425795
idunno man, HasTak has to accomodate to a lot of things and have to make sure they sell to retailers.
Collectors are a finicky bunch, hence why everyone is still unsatisfied with CW/UW, and I wouldn't rely on them buying every set online because they might not like something about any of the figures and pass on them until Takara makes the same fucking thing but with two paint apps more or because they want the show deco and not the toy deco and vice versa.
The figures had to be designed and made molds of, both of which costs a lot of money as cheap as you think they are, so they had to make the most mileage out of them; for G1 teams the pickup mold was only needed for First Aid, and arguably Swindle but they had to fuck up that too, and yet they made four figures out of it.
Fanservice and putting out FIVE jets out of three original molds for the first wave of a line sounds risky. Didn't stop them from making wave four only car autobots, though.

I'm not defending them, just saying that it's not likely that they are going to pander to collectors anytime soon.
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>>6425855

But Green Giant looks like trash and is vastly outdated compared to newer stuff, and those KO's are unfortunately, from the reviews, complete shit. I'm not asking for much here, just, shit, cut the price down a little on these things. It really doesn't need to be $600. 2ft tall 'bots aren't even that much.
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>>6425941
>I don't know why some people are so autistic about elbows being formed by the legs

I think a lot of people are just bothered by the elbow gaps. If some addon kit maker came along and did little leg gab fillers I bet some people would think they look a lot better from that alone.
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>>6425941
You're confusing autismos bitching about G1 accuracy with aesthetic appeal. Bow-legged robots and craptastic looking joints are visually unappealing, and there are plenty of better approaches.
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>>6425941
Well, yeah. the unique leader molds was more of a wish list thing.

The molds are expensive for people like us. An international corporation with the infrastructure in place, not so much. They sold CW limbs to TRU for like $6 per unit (going through a distributor, I was looking at more like $12). Dropping the comics would've helped too. Nobody read them and they didn't even reference the toys they were sold with or concurrently shipping product.

Anyway, the mold reuse just had to be smarter. There's no reason all of the reuses had to come out of the legacy teams. Sure, do them where they make sense, but do the leftovers in your new teams.

The thing is, retailers (the big ones that Hasbro actually listens to) don't know anything. Like at all. They treat toys like movies and cereal and shoes. Hasbro could've delivered anything regardless of whatever they agreed to and they wouldn't have known better.
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Join me friends and let us will a 3P Raiden into reality.

I'm sure if wall believe hard enough someone will show it at the next TFCon in September.
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>>6425960
I play with my combiners so I'll always prefer designs that make them easy to play with. The scary tolerances, clearances, and partsforming of most 3P combiners are really annoying and for all they do their limbs can't even scramble.
Visual appeal is secondary to me for the most part but 3P combiners are just recently starting to look good after them pretty much kickstarting this whole third party thing.

>>6425971
Massive corporation or not they are still spending money, each mold costs quite a lot and they are going to look for ways to profit from it. Still, fuck their new bean counters.

I completely agree with the rest. Retail is helpful sometimes, I like buying figures from retail as you can check for defects and having the option to return a defective figure without having it recreate An American Tail is convenient, but they are holding back toy companies. I swear the movie lines are getting less waves each time because they always fucking overstock on wave one.
I don't get why more fans don't try to get inside TRU or Walmart's higher posts to help fix these things like in the Philippines, though. In the case of some it's not like they are doing anything better with their time.

>>6425973
Man, it would've been so nice to have Raiden be a mainstay of G1 so we wouldn't be still bitching about Devastator's size.
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>>6425695
>I was not contacted
>Transformers is one of my favorite franchises
>but because of this I will no longer be doing Transformers fanart

Yeah GT are assholes.
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>>6425979
>I don't get why more fans don't try to get inside TRU or Walmart's higher posts to help fix these things like in the Philippines, though. In the case of some it's not like they are doing anything better with their time.
My experience has been that organizations deliberately select against people who would help them by doing something differently. You have to agree with what the lead people are already doing to even get hired and then you're immediately in something a catch-22. If it works, well, obviously you don't get to change anything because it's working. If it doesn't, now you're "part of the problem" and don't get a chance to change things because you're either "stupid" or fired.

My career (in software development) may be going nowhere but I still don't have the time or inclination to play that retarded game.

All I can do is marvel at the absolute miracle that anything anywhere even works at all.
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>>6425924
The fuck is this
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>>6426014
Probably someone declaring Fansproject and Maketoys dead because they didn't go to TFCon.

Fansproject probably is dead but Maketoys is doing fine.
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>>6425979
Haven't had any issues with Feral Rex or Gravity Builder (beyond his dumbass neck-kibble) that keeps me from playing aggressively with them. Another exception might be Long Haul's arms, but that's because of the design. Plus they're actually worth playing with, given they have some functional posability, unlike anything non-MP pushed out by HasTak.
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>>6425924
>fansproject and maketoys will no longer release any new figures unless they are already in the prototype stage now

I guess Habsro did win in the end
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>Everyone is gonna go "wtf? I hate GT now!" even though most westernfags didn't know or were too autistic to care about the artist because "muh overdesigned greeble gundumb truk not munkee shit" in the first place
>There will probably be transfags stating that GT is the worst 3P ever now in a few weeks
Wew
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>>6426050
Except for the fact there's more 3P than ever. Pour one out for the guys that started the scene. There was a time City Commander was the shit.
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>>6426050
>>6426054
What? What the fuck is happening??
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>>6426054
It always looked like shit to me.

>face didn't look like Ultra Magnus
>60% of the trailer was a gun so huge Magnus couldn't even lift it
>trailer couldn't even car carry
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>>6426052
I had seen those designs posted way back when in an art thread on on /co/ and they were occassionally posted in the tfgs here from time to time, they're not that obscure, man. I would have been 100%on board with all this if GT had at least asked the artist but for things to happen the way they did is pretty shitty. Especially since he feels he can't even draw Tf art anymore.
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Maketoys avoids direct competition by doing their own niche and only do surprise announcements 3 months prior to release.

I think they know they are good enough so no need to reveal anything.
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>>6425542
Perfect Effect one wasn't based on this, but has a similar style.
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>>6425518
Still no Soul of Chogokin Tryon 3.

But then, a show about model kits must only be merchandised in model kit form, much like how most fans see non-transforming Transformers as blasphemy.
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>>6425508
This is nice, same proportions as those kiddy robots.
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>>6425695
I think this line will be limited to the Primal repaints and few others that could feasibly transform in toy form, namely most of the quadrupedal ones.
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>>6426092
Couldn't they just make a version that works?
In concept and execution that kit was really ingenious but it not truly transforming and combining was a disappointment.

>>6426093
Just give me Shadow Panther. He sounds fun.
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>>6425489
swiggity swooty
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knc3SqrZPpo

Yeah yeah you can bitch about the reviewer all you want, mute'em if you don't like it. I'm just posting it so people can see a review on this thing.
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>>6426093
Oops made another
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>>6426329
stop god dammit, I'm interested as hell in this line, and I can't fap due to medical reasons. Cut it out already.
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>>6426340
>I can't fap due to medical reasons
Well you cant just drop something like that on us and not explain.
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>>6426356
eh, sorry not going into major depth but Prostate issues unfortunately.
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>>6426367
Oh...sorry dude, that sucks.
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>>6425297
wait shit, ive been out of the loop, shockwaves out???
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>>6426377
Places are starting to send out payment requests.
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>>6426375
Thanks. My shit aside, I friggin' hope this T-Beast line sees the light of day
>>6425535 because fug he looks good. So many of them do...
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>>6425997
>>6426060
The artist is reacting to autistic takara cucks, not GT
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hey /3pg/, do you have any characters you love but dont have any good figures?
pic related
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>>6426340
Sorry my dude
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>>6426423
I want an MP Skids. Anyone else?
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>>6426423
Blitzwing has one shitty kfc toy and one reasonably okay dx9 toy. If there was ever a character for FT to make excellent it would be that one.
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>>6426066
This. MT makes excellent stuff and just use a different strat from other 3p giants like FT and Dx9.

FT usually use their pull and reputation to bully others out of the market. Dx9 is often a victim of this.
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Well, these are cute and all, but I don't really get why they exis-
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>>6426443
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>>6426446

oh

ohhhhh
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>>6426447

my fucking dick
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>>6426446
DLC masters do it again. Do I get two monkies or do I have to buy twice for duel wield action?
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>>6426059
it was shit
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>>6426050
That statement looks more to me like that they won't show off any teaser images until they have actual prototypes.

Could be wrong though. I can't read moonrunes.
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>>6426480
>DLC masters do it again.
It'd be just like them if they make the monkey and buster blade separate releases
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>>6425672
yeah, he's like 50% bigger or so
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The fuck why are Transformers Zoids now?
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>>6426513
Because it looks better than organic altmodes
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So, is anyone even remotely interested in this guy?
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>>6426513
>re-re-re-release another Optimus G1 truck, or try something that'll actually sell and isn't already overdone

Gee I wonder why they're exploring this avenue.
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Back kibble
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Not as bad as Mightron's I guess, but I bet it feels a lot less secure
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Looks like it has splitting hips for transformation
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Inner chest workings
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>>6426529
Why not you know like DO CHARACTERS THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE? Or God forbid different properties like Super Robot Wars???
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>>6426544
>Super Robot Wars
NOT BEFORE BRAVE, INFINITE NIGGER
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>>6426544
Because interesting designs that'll sell (as proven by the Cross Dimension series) are a better use of time than making a character that showed up for one episode in the 80's. Nobody fucking cares about Wheeljack, give me that sweet robo-monkey dick.
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>>6426556
I...I Like Wheeljack....
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>>6426528
Kind of. I don't know how much I trust the company's QC, but it seems like it does 3 modes more elegantly that MP-36 does two.
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>>6426502
>takaracucks are going to pay over 100 usd in turd polish so they can pretend pmop is a masterpiece
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>>6426574
comfy
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>>6426556
You're right, but "interesting designs" has nothing to do with it. This nostalgia-centric franchise is all about the most well-known characters. Their designs could be absolute trash, but they'll fly off the shelves if they were the most prominently featured character in one shitty cartoon or another.

Personally, I prefer random nobody characters simply because they aren't tainted by tasteless fanboys.
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>>6426585
Not quite, as by your logic, people could keep making Optimus/Megatron molds and they'd keep selling. Clearly >>6426528 isn't going to do so hot.
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>>6426589
>Clearly >>6426528 isn't going to do so hot.
That's because he's not accurate to anything. This fandom doesn't care about interesting ideas or designs. It wants accuracy to the source material, no matter how shitty it might look.

That's what I meant when I said "their designs could be absolute trash", but as long as they match what was on the show, it doesn't matter.
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>>6426606
>This fandom doesn't care about interesting ideas or designs

Cross Dimensions
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>>6426092
Don, stop. They're not going to make SoC Trion.
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>>6426606
>he's not accurate to anything
AKSHULLY
It's based on Megatron's IDW "-ation" era design
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>>6426556
>give me that sweet robo-monkey dick
Open up, white boi
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>most companies, especially Hasbro and Takara, can't cast a figure in gray plastic without it looking like cheap, swirly shit
>meanwhile, at Fans Hobby...
How do they do it? Suddenly, I love these guys.
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>>6426423
(MMC piece of shit one doesn't count.)
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>>6426423
Cosmos is getting two MP-scaled 3P molds right now that both look like trash because Cosmos' G1 design is utter garbage. Cosmos got a great official legends, but I want something a bit bigger and more detailed. I'm surprised nobody has jumped on it given how big a role he's had in the comics over the past couple of years, but I guess anything not MTMTE gets ignored, too.
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>>6426528

That is literally the most boring looking Megatron I have ever seen.
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>>6426443

GTFO.

No way. No way!

Oh well, I never wanted money anyway...
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>>6426427
Only if the MP is inspired by the toy and not just the cartoon. And we all know that won't happen, so no.
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>>6426268

Already saw one without having to listen to Stoner Prime. The robot mode is divine, but the altmode has no improvements over the original. I am not gonna buy a $500 giant Actionmaster.

Fool me once...
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>>6426423
>hey /3pg/, do you have any characters you love but dont have any good figures?

Skylynx. And I SWARE ON ME MUM IF WE GET SOME FUKKEN SHIT MP SIZE SKYLYNX I WILL THROW ME COMPUTAH OUT THE FUKKEN WINDOW.

Just give me a good, IDW Skylynx. Fucks sake, 3P's. Stop MPing fucking everything, these faggots are the worst.
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>>6426783
>cosmos
>does something important
>ignored
Like pottery
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>>6426427
>>6426795
Pic related with a more toy accurate head would be perfect for me. MMC seems to be our only hope now that Maketoys is taking retard pills.
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>>6426837
Yeah. G1 Skids actually still looks pretty slick. I'd be down with some thing along these lines.
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>>6426749
They use a harder plastic that can be molded with sharper details and don't leave hollow pieces open.
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>>6425245
MMC stuff doesn't sell that well but they have a small and VERY vocal group of hardcore fans.
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>>6425945
Yeah, we got it, you'll never be satisfied. Could you stop posting about it? You've been bitching about not liking like 10 fucking options for Devatator for at least a year now. It's time to let go.
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>>6425496
why the fuck is thundercracker a sunfish?
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Prick
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>>6426939
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>>6426939
>>6426942
Are the wheels that small because rubber tires will be on them?
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>>6426950
I think so.
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>>6426939
>>6426942
Planet X Prowl?

Planet X Jazz when?
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>>6426939
>>6426942
I can already see the parts explosion
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>>6426939
>>6426942
this looks awful, is it supposed to be idw prowl?
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>>6426528
>>6426532
>>6426534
>>6426537
>>6426539
Apparently that is a floppy mess hence why I never bothered getting him during TFcon.
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>>6426813
>good, IDW Skylynx

Pick one.

His art depictions are monstrous.
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>>6426555
da gaaaaaaaan X!
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>>6426942
>>6426939

Which Prowl is this supposed to be? WFC/FoC or IDW? What company?
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>>6426446
>>6426443

This is the shit more companies need to start doing.
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>>6427168

IDW, being made by GCreation.
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>>6427181
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>>6427181
>>6427185

Damn that looks cool. Hope it's not a good looking but fragile insta-pass like their Optimus was.
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>>6426841
>>6426837
Retool him into Crosscut and you have my attention.
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>>6427185
Reeeeeally wish they hadn't gone with the Griffith head, the red spike pieces always look "soft" like he's got a bow on his head.
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>>6427181
>>6427185
>used to stump for someone to make this design all the time in /3pg/ a couple years ago
>got the iron factory one which was good, but not the size class I was looking for
>been looking for an excuse to give gcreations a try anyway
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>>6426528
>using the same stale grey plastic as titan return megs

This was destined for failure
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It's (current year) already, and there is still no good 3p Minerva toy. What gives
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>>6427388
>no lewd Arcee, Windblade, Minerva, or Strongarm
>no Kiss Players 3P
>no Raiden

Truly the worst time line.
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>>6427388
Kinda surprised 3p groups have pretty much ignored TR vs CW.

Seems like a steady flow of income if they made a few bodies and heads. Just add a new face plate and alter the alt mode bits every few releases.
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>>6427142
Eh? He's out?
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>>6427393
Even more, they could have:

-Made more articulated TM bodies
-Toys that are compatible with TM
-Combiners that are compatible with CW figures.
-Targetmasters to fill gaps
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>>6427393
>not a single thing for TR from 3P's
>a 3P is making a fucking addon for ANOTHER 3P 'bot so it can act as the body for CW toys

Sometimes I wonder if all the lead paint in China has completely damaged everyone.
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>>6427393
TR and CW aren't "toys for collectors", they're cheap shit for kids. Adults collecting these are cheap, they wouldn't shell out the kind of money most 3Ps want.
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>>6427439
>Adults collecting these are cheap, they wouldn't shell out the kind of money most 3Ps want.

Nothing wrong with having both, Anon.
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>>6427439
>>6427445
>nothing wrong with having both
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>>6427395
No he's not...Officially.

A3U brought 3 stuff that were not officially out to sell there in TFcon last weekend. Those were: Open and Play Big Spring, that JJ Oversized Classics Prime, and BoldForms Megatron or whatever he is called.

I was talking to another guy in the convention and he told me that he figured out why A3U didn't have one in Robot mode as a display to be fiddled with. Somebody he knew bought one and let him fiddle with it and everything was loose.

Personally I bought Open and Play's Big Spring and despite the face being ugly as heck which needs replacing, he is a really solid figure and easy to transform.
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>>6427439
>>6427445
>>6427457
Just get the best of both worlds then.

At least with HasTak, I can impulse buy tf's that might seem fun at a glance.
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>>6427463

Defender's gun's are still the coolest.
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>>6427459
>Personally I bought Open and Play's Big Spring and despite the face being ugly as heck which needs replacing, he is a really solid figure and easy to transform.

Do a review here or something, man. Rain some pics. I'm interested in this because besides the asian man face, it looks pretty nice, and it's not gonna kill a wallet.
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>>6427463
I really wish I collected non show characters.
That cobra jet and MP guy just hit me in the right ways.
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>>6427482
Defender?
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>>6427491
Warbot. Fansprojects Springer.
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>>6427501
Ah, the gun is actually from kfc ghetto blast
>kfc
It was $15 at TFcon
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>>6427485
>only collecting show characters
So sad. Some of the best toys are based on characters that weren't in your precious Korean toy commercial.
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>>6426955
>the legends figures are more detailed than the MPs
What a time to be alive.
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>>6427484
What can I say? I was iffy about buying him because of the face and since I didn't bother holding him in my hands but when I folded in and actually went up and picked up their display model, I knew I wanted one.

Just to list out what I liked and disliked with him:

Pros:
Solid plastic
Good ratcheting joints where needed
Highly pose-able
Has rubber soles which I found pretty nice so he doesn't really slip
Fun and easy transformation that is quite unique - this considering that the toy doesn't come with an instruction and I actually just watched the only quick play video on youtube so I just watched him transform it without any explanation.

Cons:
Face that only a mother could love and the face is just held on by 2 pins so its pretty easy to pop out. Waiting for a 3p replacement.
Not a lot of paint
The part that tabs the chest to the abdomen is a bit loose where I used the Floor Polish Techniqueâ„¢ to tighten up the connection
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>>6427536
Welp it went sideways again. I really don't know what's happening now I tried all the possible settings combination I can but it seems to not want to go on portrait.
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>>6427529
>precious Korean toy commercial
Please find a well to fall down.
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>>6427513

Whoops. It Looks like Defender's. Though It's got more molded detail actually now that I look at it.
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>>6427537

Crop it. Or just upload it to your comp and it should be fine.
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>>6427586
I did. I uploaded it to my pc because my potato S3 is dying so I can't even post properly on it anymore. Gonna crop it next time.
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>>6427536
>Good plastic coloring instead of plaint smearing

More 3ps should take note. Does he have any diecast though?
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>>6427536
Flipped it for ya. Looks like some sloppy paint work on the yellow bit on his stomach.
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>>6427606
>Looks like some sloppy paint work on the yellow bit on his stomach

Seems like all of them have the same problem. Even the displays like all 6 of them have that.

>>6427604
Yeah I really like the matted plastic colors.
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>>6427604
Oh forgot to mention that he doesn't have any Diecast at all but the plastic is hefty and dense.
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>>6427604
Meh. I like paint. The key is to use high quality paint and engineer good clearances. Ironhide and Artfire are covered in paint and don't scratch because of these things. Unpainted plastic is cheap and ugly as fuck on a toy that costs $100+. I would honestly rather have the paint and risk not scratching it.

Like seriously. Pretty much every official MP was "drenched in paint" and I've been transforming them for years with no major damage.
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>>6427622
Looks like I've got a new figure to get. I must be a weirdo because that face looks fine to me and the aesthetic is pretty great.

Got any pics showing off articulation?
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>>6427627
You do know that Open-Play Springer is like $80 Canadian right? So like $60 USD.

>>6427634
I will do that a bit more later, what pose do you want me to try?
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>>6427627
I can understand the preference for paint. Having a figure with tons of matte isn't the most visually appealing thing.I think that a good mix of plastic types and textures is better, if my understanding of plastics is accurate.

I'm just super terrified of a freak accident causing a nasty nic or time wearing away at the paint's strength to hold onto the figure.That and I prefer surfaces to look like they match, so if one is smooth, the other is matte, but they're both the same color, it triggers something obsessive in me. Just looking at some recent figures drives me nuts.
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>>6427641
I'm not picky, but some nice sword slashing poses would be nice. Also would like to see him recreate the mandatory sword pose. Use your imagination.
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>>6427641

Unfortunately, not the case. Looks like they're pulling the ol' chestnut of "same price everywhere despite conversion meaning some should be paying a lot less", like what happens with videogames all the damn time.
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Chosen Prime has bridge watcher in stock as well as TFM Motormaster
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>>6426749
>$119 dollars
>tfw poor
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>>6426749
>>most companies, especially Hasbro, can't cast a figure in gray plastic without it looking like cheap, swirly shit

FTFY.
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>>6427672

Save money. I'm poor as shit, saving is all I do. A few here, a few there, so I can buy shit when I want to. And with the long time between announcements, reviews, and release with most things, you've got time to save.
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>>6427675
I'm in dental school so I'm living on borrowed money, I can't justify spending loans on toys. Eventually I will scoop up everything I want to.
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>>6427679
>I can't justify spending loans on toys

The usual thing I tell people is "You probably eat out. Instead of going for that burger, save the money. You'll be surprised what you have by the end of the month".
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>>6427661
Picking up Bridge Watcher despite what I think is a flaw with his gun arm.
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>>6427660
he's on Store.Z for $70
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>>6427648
>imagination

Actually I'm pretty bad at posing.

Hopefully this shit doesn't go sideways again.
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>>6427674
I agree Hasbro is much worse, but even Takara's MP Starscream and Grimlock are an embarrassment for collector's toys.
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>>6427711
Trying a resized one.
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>>6427717
Oh that works

I think this semi passes for the obligatory Ironman pose.
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>>6427719
Threw in some heroic pelvic thrust in.
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>>6427723
Well now for the obligatory Jojo's reference.
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>>6427724
Is that a motherfucking Jojo's reference?
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>>6427728
Everything is a Jojo's reference!

Well That's all what I took for pose-ability. Jojo poses are one of my personal go to since their poses are elaborate enough.
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>>6427660
If you ever thought of UT's Allen as a possibility, BBTS has him for $60 right now.
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>>6427734
>$60 usd then convert it to Canadian then pay the insane BBTS shipping cost
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>>6427711
>Actually I'm pretty bad at posing.

Gotta have fun with your stuff. I usually just do dumb shit with mine.
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>>6427746
>The incubation is nearly complete!
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>>6427391
>waifus have not infected tf yet
This franchise attracts a lot of autistic shit, glad that isn't one of them
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>>6427753

They did a long time ago.
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>>6427746
I love goofy DJD shenanigan pics
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>>6427799

I like doing them but it's really hard to fit the figures on panel and still keep it within the white zone I have set up in my tiny area.
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>>6427463
Exactly this. I only started collecting 3rd party about 2 or 3 years ago but I've been collecting both. Most of the older official stuff is still worth collecting and makes up the bulk of my TF shelf but I still picked up quite a bit of CW and TR stuff just to have some cheap "potato chip" toys for the sake of fiddling around with. Aside from some of the Legends class guys (the Insecticons, Cosmos, Seaspray, Powerglide, Brawn), I don't think the newer toys are really worth collecting and displaying but they're great for decorating my cube at work and providing some easy stress relief at the office.
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>>6427758
>>6427746
God, Tarn makes me laugh so hard. It always looks to me like he's wearing a cheap plastic mask of the Decepticon symbol that he got at Party City for $2.50.
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>>6427856
it always did look like a gas station knockoff
really wish mmc had done better
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>>6427856

Honestly, the figure is great. I like the mask, too.
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>>6427758
Needs more DJD being hopelessly gay
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>>6427934
I like you.
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>>6427934
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>>6427951
>"Tarn why are your palms so sweaty"
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Somebody, talk me out of this
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>>6428040
Its an ugly piece of shit that doesn't look particularly like any Whirl and you shouldn't encourage MMC to make garbage like that by buying it.

How was that?
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>>6428040
Test sample reviews have been pretty poor, go check them out.
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>>6428045
Pretty good, anon. I think it worked
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>>6428048
Someone had test shot? Who?
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U L T R A
W I D E
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>>6428040

I like it desu. I liked their roadbuster too. I'm gunna get it. FUCKIN STOP ME
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Got Giant in today. He's pretty great- definitely a little dated but still a good toy. Plastic feels superb, articulation is very good for the design and age, and I love how he looks like one big robot rather than six stapled together. My one complaint is the rather fiddly Hook to Long Haul connection, but that aside I love him. Granted I haven't separated him yet, but as a combiner at least he's a winner.
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I'm really digging FansHobby newest monsterbot.
I wonder if they'll repurpose the mold for someone else
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>>6428141

He's being used for BWN or Transmetal Megatron.
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>>6428142
I meant Flypro, not twin dragon dude
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>>6425117
dafuk.
they shouldave made it a trailer,
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>>6427737
>insane BBTS shipping cost
It's not their fault. Shipping from the US to Canada is insane. A $2lb box Priority goes to $35 flat the second it crosses the border. 1st class is almost $20, also flat.
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>>6427439
>TR and CW aren't "toys for collectors",
and yet TF fags buy up fucking tons of them and put them on display
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I did it, I bit the bullet on Striker Noir. Since I have steady income now. What are some good black prime repaints in terms of 3p figs?
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>>6428186

You already have the best one.
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>>6427753
...but I want cute waifu TF's.
A line of good female TF's would probably sell well, just no one has done it. I like the Iron Factory girls, but like MMC's Arcee, they're all the same mold.
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Skullface review of Susanoo finally up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP-pcqaRBLo
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>>6427934
>do you think love can bloom on the battlefield
You need to redo this pic when you get sparkeater
>sniper
>wolf
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>>6428186
FANSHOBBY'S SCOURGE
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>>6428190
>A line of good female TF's would probably sell well
Oh, I'm sure it will. I'm just not keen on waifu faggotry being another facet of the fandom, and I'm speaking as someone who would do anything for a new Airachnid.
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>>6428126
oh fuck

there goes my money




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