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/tfg/ transformers general

G1 accuracy edition
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say hi to your wife for me
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Old thread: >>6564889
3rd party thread: >>6559650

>NYCC PICS
https://twitter.com/oafe

>NEW TAKARA RELEASES: LEGENDS, ENCORE GOD FIRE CONVOY AND SWxTF
http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/10/02/possible-next-takara-releases-encore-god-fire-convoy-lg-64-seaspray-rione-lg-65-targetmaster-twin-twist-lg-66-targetmaster-top-spin-351114

>HASCON 2017 STUFF:
http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/09/08/hascon-2017-transformers-brand-team-panel-meets-eye-347982
http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/09/08/hascon-2017-pre-panel-display-case-images-power-primes-prototypes-348019

>LEAKED POTP / MOVIE IMAGES:
http://imgur.com/a/UW5BQ
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>>6566145
Anyone else unironically more interested in SWxTF and the return of Encore over anything revealed yesterday?
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>>6566129
>G1 accuracy edition
I'm glad. This is the last nail in the coffin causing me to stop being an obsessive MP collector and shifting my focus to 3P for expensive figures.

Back when MPs were actually good-looking and fun to transform, I would almost obsessively end up buying all variations of a mold just because they were all gorgeous. It was nice, but expensive.
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>>6566151
I'm done with tf if the qc in potp is like tr
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>sunbow accuracy
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>>6566152
Pretty much this tbqh. I can finally transcend and move over to 3rd parties if all the Masterpieces are going to be bland Sunbow-esque greebleless shit from now on.
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>>6566126 base mode
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I'm so excited for the Takara version of the terrorcons
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>>6566152
>>6566155
And it doesn't help that 3rd parties are getting progressively cheaper, just consider the fact that the robot on the left, which actually has a proper paintjob and isn't held down by cartoon proportions, costs half the price of the inferior official design on the right.
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>>6566175
>the virgin Shockwave Vs The Chad Quakewave
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>>6566155
>wanting crap like Bumblebee arm kibble or Sideswipe's ankle bumpers

Do you eat the shit out of your toilet too? All Sideswipe had to do was pull the legs down like the toy but NOOOO gotta homage a cartoon that was drawn on a budget! What next? Wanting a Devastator with oversized Constructicons to go with it because Carnage in C-Minor did it? Why not alternate heads or even full repaints of animation errors?
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>>6566175
>inferior official design on the right.
I'm the anon you're commenting on. As much as I hate the cartoon accurate bullshit, I really like MP Shockwave over the 3P options. The transformation is a lot more fun. Honestly all it needed was some paint, or just some better fucking plastic. No way that figure looks like it's worth the $100+ it cost.
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>>6566186
>Bumblebee arm kibble or Sideswipe's ankle bumpers
I'll take that over convoluted, retarded transformations that are dying to look like 30-year-old garbage cartoons.
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>>6566167
Yeah... at the new price I'll wait for the takara boxset, still getting most of hasbro baby pretenders and legends tho.
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>>6566167

So you're excited for something not coming out until a good year and a half, maybe 2, after everyone else has had it?
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>>6566187
I think he's a fine $70 MP but for what they wanted for him, ewe
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>>6566189
>he doesn't like Inferno's magic ladder
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>>6566199
I love Inferno's magic ladder. I just fucking hate the rest of him being bland as fuck.
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>>6566193
...yeah, if they add Abominus dragon knees and antenna and fix his chest sure.
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>>6566193
Yes because I'm not an impatient child like the average Hasbrofag. I'll glady wait for a better toy without shitty stickers.
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>>6566175
Quakewave is probably the first thing that comes to mind when I think of ugly 3P toys. Something about him just makes him unappealing in general.
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My only issue with MP Shockwave is that his elbows are shitty because of the need to be double jointed for the toy/show option, and his knees are shitty too for basically no reason.
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>>6566215
He looks too chunky for shockwave imo
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So is anything else gonna be shown off at nycc?
I was at least hoping they would show abominus combined
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So will Overbite actually get a remolded head?
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>>6566236
They'll probably give him a new robot mode head and shark head.
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Pretty conflicted dudes... I'm liking a lot of what I'm seeing from POTP, but if they actually go through with these price hikes I might just have to start buying Takara. I buy primarily Hasbro and I don't want to have to wait so much longer for figure releases but at these prices....I just don't know
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>>6566236
>Terrorcons are Seacons
>Terrorcons are Dinoforce
>Terrorcons are Monstructor

I want to get off Mr Blot's Wild Ride
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>>6566222
>his elbows are shitty because of the need to be double jointed for the toy/show option
Er... explain?
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>>6566247
Once I started buying Takara, I couldn't bother going back to Hasbro
It's been well over a year since I got anything made by Hasbro
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>>6566249
Hose over or hose under
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>>6566248
They're already reusing Dinobot parts with the Terrorcons (at least Cutthroat who's using the Swoop parts from what I glanced), so get read for power of the parts sharhing!
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>>6566253
Oh, I never even realized that. That's at least kinda cool.
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>>6566186
>being this assblasted over some tiny ass arm kibble because it's not supposed to be there according to some show
fuck off I love my MP21G
>>6566193
>openly admitting that you're going to buy overpriced cheap sticker shit
I rather buy overpriced sloppy paint shit
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>>6566248
>Terrorcons are Monstructor/Dinoforce

No! I don't want another disaster like Leokaiser.
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>>6566265
Get fucked. It's not american geewun. Only american geewun matters.
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what went wrong q
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>>6566272
Jazz siphoned all the good genetics
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>>6566186
>Supporting new MPs, which are hyper-cartoon accurate while claiming the problem with the old ones was that they were being too cartoon-accurate
You sound very angry and confused.
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>>6566269
So you want a shitty Monstructor?
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>>6566236
i hope that shark head clips on to something.
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>>6566272
I remember seeing this design on the big screen and thinking how horrendous it was and how any toy of it is just gonna be fucked.
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>>6566248
We better get Seacons, I want to make this bad boy.
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>>6566272
The fat gut barely conveys as what it's supposed to be even in the movie and looks like a mangina on the toy

The doors don't actually form the chest and because fucking nothing covers the chest it looks weird and gangly as fuck.

I kind of kind the design though. Maybe some 3P can do it well eventually but the only one I say still fucks up the chest anyway.
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Autobots on patrol looking for 3rd party scum to bust. Tailgate seems nervous at times.
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What is the best place to buy Takara figures for US?
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>>6566272
>car doors in front of the arms
>im not fat, my fanny pack is just full
>exclusive dog
still glad i got in on target clearance alongside YJ Aqualad for 6 bucks each. they were both stacked in their respective boxes near checkout
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>>6566289
cheapest and securest is usually HLJ assuming you are willing to wait awhile for the order.
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>>6566286
>>6566272
I remember if you fiddled with it enough you could actually pull it off pretty well.

I'll always have a thing for Human Alliance. Shame we'll never get anything close to that since it's now at or above MP level.
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>>6566222
You don't mind that he has almost no paint at all?
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>>6566289
Any import site that you trust (amiami, hlj, etc...), except local sites like BBTS or TFsource since they'll make you pay way more.

Just remember, if wathever you oder is massive or heavy, expect hefty shipping prices (in which case, I recommend you way your options, since in some cases the American sites could give you better prices).
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>>6566291
>>6566296
While Amiami has some scummy pratices, but HLJ has that one in a million chance of fucking you over by doubling your order.
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>>6566252
This. I checked out on CW because I don't give a shit about combiners, but when I got back into TR, I bought Hasbro first and then later replaced them with the Takara versions because I realized they were superior

Getting figures like Triggerhappy, Kup and Doublecross with non-swirly-trash plastic, proper paint apps, and as Targetmasters is more than worth the wait and the extra cash. Only reason to buy exclusively Hasbro now is if you're a poor, impatient, obsessive collector who buys every figure in a line because of completion autism.
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>>6566247
>Takara probably won't do Rodimus Unicronus
>If they do it'll some BS expensive exclusive

Fuck
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LG Kup also looks good with the old Generations figure's laser musket. It's extremely loose in his hands, though. Have 5mm pegs gotten slightly bigger in the past 6 years?
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>>6566309
Kups are too big for some reason, all the one's I own have that problem.
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>>6566306
Yeah. Takara tends not to touch repaints, which is a shame because sometimes the repaints are immensely superior to the originals.

>>6566312
I noticed even his Targetmaster was a little loose, but it was fixed with some futureshine. The old laser musket is just way too small to fit. I'd probably have to wrap a piece of tape around the handle to make it stay.
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>>6566296
>>6566301

The tracking for Amiami doesn't update when your package leaves Japan. While it hasn't been a problem for myself, I do know a few people that ordered big expensive shit having their package lost and amiami deliberately stalling them to a point beyond a refund period through paypal.

The thing is the person was in Turkey or some country where the mail system is fucked up. I would like to say if you're in the US or Canada or wherever the mail system isn't complete hell, it should be okay to go with amiami. But do keep the tracking stuff I noted above and their stubbornness in mind.
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>>6566295
Not the same anon, I never care about paint in and of itself so much as the look of the toy and the engeering of it. Shockwave is a simple yet sleek design and he looks 1 for 1 of his show/comic appearances so I’m not sure why Anyone would care about how much paint he has.
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>>6566305
Alternative opinions really are beyond comprehension for you, huh? I'm glad you get toys you like and are happy with, but man are you a prick.
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>>6566309
To have a tight peg connection, one of the holes needs to be fractionally smaller than the peg. They could've gone from 5mm pegs and 4.75mm hand holes to 5.25mm pegs and 5mm hand holes.
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>>6566321
I suppose liking swirly trash plastic, zero paint, and cheap stickers that peel off before they're even out of the box IS an "alternative opinion". My apologies.
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>>6566316
Repaints and minor retools, but SG Rodimus might have a shot.

>>6566318
Weird, mine updates, they tend to switch to UPS or USPS and the tracking starts working there.
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>>6566324
Not sure why I said "one of". The holes need to be fractionally smaller than the peg.
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>>6566320
>he looks 1 for 1 of his show/comic appearances
You know, for a lot of people, this doesn't always automatically make something a good toy.
>I’m not sure why Anyone would care about how much paint he has.
Because his purple plastic looks like straight-up shit. It just looks cheap and bland, like something you'd find on crummy retail toy, not a $100+ collector's figure. You honestly can't put Shockwave's purple against a painted finish and say they look similar in quality.

I will take quality over accuracy, every time.
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Is MP Nemesis Prime good? 90 bucks seems a little steep
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>>6566328
That's good to hear. Though for myself and others, the tracking page doesn't really update after it ships out of Japan.

But maybe it's the fact that I'm in Canada, but the thing is last year they used to update my tracking pages beyond Japan only for them to not update now
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>>6566305
There's also always the off chance that people like the Hasbro design better or have no interest in the extras offered. I like TR Hardhead's look better than the Legends version and had little interest in the tiny tank. For me the extra $10ish wasn't worth it. Also Hasbro tends to make a lot of characters with the molds that Takara doesn't and vice versa.
>>6566327
So are you just wanting (You)s or being overly aggressive how you cope with bad days?
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>>6566336
He's fucking excellent. Amazing paint job, probably one of the best on any MP figure. And before you get triggered, I've had mine for years and transformed it hundreds of time and it hasn't chipped or scratched. MP-10B was from a time where they knew how to use quality paint and clear coats, because the budget wasn't being eaten up by cartoon accuracy.
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>>6566336
Well, it's a good representation of G1 Prime with modern articulation and some cool steps to transform him from robot to truck, just remember he lacks the trailer, Roller, and Spike.
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>>6566336
no because
>mp-10 mold
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>>6566343
Thanks. Do you think the newer one will have paint chipping?

also, what are the odds I can pick up a bootleg trailer?
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>>6566336
He's MP-10 but in black grey and red. It's more a question if you want that mold for that much. Engineering is the right balance between detailed but easy transformation, and the details in the sculpt are very good.
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>>6566347
None, since Optimus actually came with one for the MP-10 release. Your best bet is finding another toy that includes a trailer (like that AOE Prime that came with Sideswipe, his trailer was the MP-10 one).
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>>6566347
>Do you think the newer one will have paint chipping?
It's hard to say. Megatron was lousy with paint chipping because of his stupid transformation, but other recent MPs like the fire engine mold have some pretty solid paint.
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>>6566335
>You know, for a lot of people, this doesn't always automatically make something a good toy
But in this case that has been the MPs mind set for 30+ figures over 8+ years, to even nitpick that now comes of as just wanting to be petty for the sake of it. I get if that isn't your cup of tea but the paint would have been needless and just added more issues.
> It just looks cheap and bland, like something you'd find on crummy retail toy
That's the loaded gun with MPs anyway, paint or no paint. MP36 dosn't look better and the cake of paint just leads to scuffing and other issues that make paying $150+ a very questionable cost to make.

>I will take quality over accuracy, every time.
In all seriousness I recommend the 3rd party threads then, some of the best TFs that have come out in the last 5 years have been from those manufactures.
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>>6566341
>being overly aggressive how you cope with bad days?
I think it's this, and he always has a bad day because his life is unfulfilling.
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>>6566167
>excited for Blot
>and Rippersnapper I guess
Do I just get the rest of the Terrorcons? It's going to feel awful having just a portion of a comboner team, is there any merit/appeal to it?

>$35 voyager and $25 deluxes in Maple World
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>>6566354
>But in this case that (accuracy) has been the MPs mind set for 30+ figures over 8+ years, to even nitpick that now comes of as just wanting to be petty for the sake of it.
If you can't admit there's a BIG difference between MP 10 and 12's level of accuracy, and MP 36 and 39's, you're at least a little ignorant.
>In all seriousness I recommend the 3rd party threads then
Honestly, they're almost worse. 3P bots are catering more and more to stupid levels of accuracy. This fandom is fucking terrible for me. I only got into it 8 years ago, and I just like cool transforming robots. Seems like I'm in the minority.
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>>6566362
Just buy the Unite Warriors version.
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>>6566362
Abominus is going to look like garbage. Just get Blot and Rippersnapper, best designs of the lot imo
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>My only chance to get a Grotesque is TRU
>local TRU barely ever restocks
Do I just end it bros?
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>>6566362
If I'm seeing this right they make up wave 2 and 3 and while I don't know about Canada I know in the US those are the waves that stay around and in a hard way of the generations line. If your leaf world works the same way I recommend just getting the two you want and just wait and see if the urge builds for more and/or a sale hits.
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>>6566362
Do any of the other 3 members appeal to you in any way? If you at least like 4 out of 5, try getting all of them, or wait for Takara to release their set if it's cheaper to import it.

The combiner will probably be really good since it looks pretty similar to the Silverbolt mold, which was the best out of the CW figures.
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why is takara so good, also is this worth the 40$
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>>6566376
Probably, given how much better Hot Rod and Kup are than their Hasbro counterparts.
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>>6566365
>If you can't admit there's a BIG difference between MP 10 and 12's level of accuracy, and MP 36 and 39's, you're at least a little ignorant.
Not anon but doesn't that enforce the point that they are going for show accuracy over toy or otherwise in the last decade? I mean you had to leap over 20 figures in a slow line to make your point.

>Honestly, they're almost worse.
Keep digging. There are a lot of top shelf 3Ps out there.

> This fandom is fucking terrible for me.
I'll never understand this, you don't like the fandom but you want to pick at it? Talk down it? Why are you here? It be like walking into a store you despise and when they ask if you need help you go "Fuck you I hat this place" and then sit down.

Also I don't think you are in the minority so much as you have different tastes which is great but consider what it's doing to you coming to places that don't share your tastes.
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>>6566376
>that crisp blue color
>those painted gold details
>that targetmaster
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>>6566369
wait I thought he was online only?
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>>6566376
80$ for these two, uhg why can't hasbro give us good paint jobs
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>>6566152
Every single MP release has been on a spectrum between toon and toy accuracy.

Every. Single. One.
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>>6566383
because it's a different market in the states and sadly big chains here control a lot of how things get made. Give a few more decades when online chokes out most brick and mortar stores and we will likely see one collector market making limited higher price but better quality figures for all. Honestly that's why I have no beef with Hasbro because for them to meet the Takara bar they be about the same cost and means to get.
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>>6566383
I think the Hasbro one looks fine honestly. Not quite as fancy, but I got mine for what, 10 bucks?

either way it's practically the same toy
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what do we know about hasbro targetmasters? they're the only thing currently pushing me towards takara
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>>6566366
It will be expensive

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>>6566371
Blot is cute and looks great, Rippersnapper looks decent, and the more Terrorcons I like, the rest start to look better as well. Sinnertwin looks compact and comfy, Cutthroat looks passable, and then Hun-Gurr looks inevitable. I own no combiners but was thinking of getting Bruticus or Superion after I move out

>>6566370
We usually get a slight delay iirc, but then it becomes like
>wave 2 sells out and gets replaced with wave 1 when wave 3 is out in the States
>wave 3 gets released and then wave 2 gets put out again, etc

People gave Abominus/Hun-Gurr a lot of flac for copying the Silverbolt mold though? Or was it because one's a jet and the other is a living creature

Might get Grimlock and the tiny dino, and a few legends and Moonracer, but wasn't planning on buying too many PotP figures initially
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>>6566379
>doesn't that enforce the point that they are going for show accuracy over toy or otherwise in the last decade?
Not really, because MP 10 and 12 were in 2011 and 2012, which are only 5 and 6 years ago... so check your math. And even up to toys like MP-20, it was all about a mix of cartoon, toy and new ideas, and that was only 3 years ago.
>There are a lot of top shelf 3Ps out there.
I'm not saying the toys are worse. I'm saying the threads are. They're full of angry geewunners.
>Why are you here?
I have an interest in Transformers, but I can never discuss them here because I feel like we're on totally different wavelengths. I like quality toys, while it seems everyone else uses geewun accuracy as the indicator of whether a figure is good. Every fucking thread is
>it looks like shit
>yeah but that's what it looked like in the cartoon so fuck you

>>6566385
Except now it's literally ALL cartoon. Earlier it was a very balanced mix, and even contained other inspirations, like MP-10 uses the toy's windshield shape and colors, a completely unique headsculpt that doesn't perfectly match he show or toy, as well as silver shin vents which were never in the show or the toy, and the gun storage being something out of the IDW comics. Pic related.
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>>6566385
Nah, they've clearly shifted to more toon accuracy than in the past. MP-10 to 20 don't even look like they're from the same line as MP-27 to 37.
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>>6566383
Just start buying Takara instead of bitching.

Prices are rising with less to show with Hasbros offerings, might as well spend the $5 more and get something decent looking.
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>>6566393
>It will be expensive
So will the Hasbro versions.
A few dollars more will stop you bitching about regretting buying the Hasbro versions poor paint jobs.
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>>6566392
>what do we know about hasbro targetmasters?
That they don't exist and likely never will. Hasbro is too busy giving us shitty forced gimmicks.
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>>6566412
It also comes out in 1-2 years and comes in a big box that I can't explain away

Also what can Takara even do to improve the limb-bots
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>>6566394
Optimus had the shin vents on the show.
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>>6566424
But they weren't silver. Actually, when was the first time Optimus Prime was depicted with silver on his shin vents?
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>>6566426
better not tell you now
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>>6566428
Well it wasn't the cartoon or the toy, so it still blows a hole in your arguments that MP-10 was always about strict accuracy to the cartoon and the toy.
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>>6566438
It really is just one anti-G1 shitposter. When he sees G1 he goes into a mindless rage, shouting "korean cartoon!" and "shit show, SHIT!".
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>>6566446
It's not my fault these threads are full of manchildren that can't look beyond shitty '80s nostalgia and realize what real quality is.
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>>6566451
I grew up with UT and RiD 2001, and I think G1 is great

its cheesy and funny now fuck off BWfag
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>>6566449
>I shitposted because I'm mad and hate you for having a different opinion, but YOU'RE the autistic one
Jesus.
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>>6566446
I don't know why we always have to have at minimum one jackass in these threads.
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>>6566446
So he starts saying the truth then? I mean you have to be blind to defend G1's animation.
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>>6566394
You didn't really answer anons question, you are basically coming here to bitch at people for likening things you don't like.
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>>6566467
Exactly, he's here every day and we all recognize him. I wish he'd stop.
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Shouldn't the shit posting kids be asleep or something?
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>>6566426
Actually they have been silver, blue, black, grey and etc because they had no real consistency. I mean hell, most bots couldn't keep the same shades of color throughout the show, in some episodes Cyclonus is a dark almost blue purple, other times he was almost pink.
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>>6566467
>you are basically coming here to bitch at people for likening things you don't like
But you're bitching at me for not liking what you like. The road goes both ways.
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>>6566467
Because he dosn't have an answer, he wants (You)s, is it because he is simply that board? Is it because he is a mountain of failure? A 30 something NEET sucking off the tits of a decaying mommy and daddy and he hates on this hobby because it's easier then to spend the time hating himself? Is he a real autist? We may never know.
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Honestly the shitposter should go out and think about his life after this thread. Nobody likes him and I doubt that's only an online phenomenon.
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>>6566455
Fellow anime watching guy here. I agree about G1 having a bunch of fun stuff like episodes where someone gets a human girlfriend or the triple-changers strike out on their own plans with things like football or having an army of trains, or going to a planet with a lot of Asian stuff and Perceptor becomes the the face for an indigenous kabuki robot. The different interpretations of base of "shapeshifting alien machine guys " is the charm of Transformers.
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>>6566490
>going to a planet with a lot of Asian stuff and Perceptor becomes the the face for an indigenous kabuki robot
What episode was this?
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>>6566482
Actually we have been asking why you are here and you keep walking in circles that never answers the question. You say this is a two way road when really it's a round about you keep circling in bitching the whole time while others wonder why you just don't take an exit and go somewhere you want too.
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>>6566287
Oh, shit! Behind them! :O
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>>6566496
>it's a round about you keep circling in bitching the whole time while others wonder why you just don't take an exit and go somewhere you want too

Holy fuck, this.
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>>6566494
The Face of the Nijika

way late season 3

funny enough if it came out in today's climate people would accuse it of having a transgender message.
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>>6566287
>>6566497
>*grumble mumble* kick me off patrol will they? I'll still keep an eye out for those little shits and beat them when I see them, "excessive force" my tailpipe!"
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>>6566496
>and go somewhere you want too.
This fandom is fucking cancer. There is literally no forum where people genuinely like transforming robots. Instead it's all about retarded accuracy and antique cartoons that suck.
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>>6566129
Sunstreaker never had half those gaps, lines, or joints in the animation. That's not accurate at all.
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>>6566505
>Perceptor and Windblade bot have head masters
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>>6566511
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>>6566505
People are fucking retarded about those issues nowadays. Some people actually believe all crossdressers are trans, no exceptions. Fucking stupid.
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>>6566510
>There is literally no forum where people genuinely like transforming robots
You know that's not true. In fact many here like them, it's just not the way you like them, but again, you refuse to leave. So either you are a sad shitposter that can't even get a straight story together or you are a complete mess and have no idea how to seek out communities that are exactly what you want and would rather bitch and ruin other people's fun.
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>>6566510
Then fuck off.
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>>6566512
You know I haven't seen that combo yet. Either I'm out of the loop or the community has taken me by surprise.
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>>6566518
>you have to like Transformers the same way we do, or LEAVE
kill yourself.
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>>6566524
Fuck off.
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>>6566511
The worst part about Sunstreaker is the price hike. It's the definitive reason I'm not buying him. They made him super complex to try and be accurate, and threw in a bunch of pointless accessories, and then slapped on a higher price tag as though it were justified.
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>>6566524
Again, you know that's not what's being said, and you are the one standing here crying it's so shitty and bad. Like that anon said, you are going to a place you dislike, to tell them how much you dislike it, only to stay and keep bring it up. You can stay by all means, you won't have the impact you want, we will keep liking what we like, you can keep being a bitch and we will all get a laugh out of it, and you'll get some (You)s to keep you warm.
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>>6566530
>you'll get some (You)s to keep you warm
I onjly find that pathetic when you are over 20, kids I get but shit a 20 something just wanting (You)s? Fuck, neck yourself if you are 30 and pulling that shit. Nothing screams a loss of control like shitting up a specific toy thread of fewer than 50 IPs when you are at an age you should have found a mate and had kids already.
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>>6566528
Is he even that popular to demand that? I get Soundwave, Megs, OP, BB and a few others but Sunstreaker hasn't been used in a show/film for the last 30 years.
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>>6566534
>[attempts to switch tactics]
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>>6566538
Doesn't matter. He was part of the original cartoon cast, so people want him. He also kind of has appeal because he's Sideswipe's brother, but it's odd since the two MPs are so far apart, they look kind of weird together with their different aesthetics.
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Should I? If I get him I have to get his buddies or he'll be lonely.
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>>6566551
Shit, definitely for that price anon, he's fun as hell.
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>>6566550
They're the same aesthetics.
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>>6566550
Oh you know they will retool Sunny here into his bro in no time
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>>6566421
Yeah, these sure do look good together.
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>>6566558
Kek. Pic related.
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>>6566551
Get him. He'll never be lonely either, he has two heads + a Titan master
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>>6566562
>>6566565
Wow. I didn't realize they've gotten so different over the years. I don't really collect MPs, so I guess I didn't notice.
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>>6566562
Goddamn right they do.
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>>6566551
Get him, return hum with no hassle if you dont like him
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>>6566562
I think the best thing about the mp36 KO will be that I can put a proper decepticon decal on it.
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>>6566572
These two look way better together.
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>>6566577
Gross. I hate Dreamwave aesthetic.
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>>6566593
You must hate MP-10 then, because it's much closer in aesthetics to Despotron than MP-36.
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>>6566602
A lot of people actually do hate MP-10 now. It's en vogue.
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>>6566602
Not really. Prime looks like the cartoon character. Derpotron there is a bloated mess with a too huge fusion cannon.
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>>6566608
their proportions are like, almost identical
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MP-10 needs an update anyways atleast with the possibility
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>>6566628
I'd be interested to see another MP Prime. MP-01 and MP-01 and MP-10 were eight years apart. It's only been 6 years since then, but I'm curious to see what they could improve.
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>>6566633
>but I'm curious to see what they could improve

Honestly, all they'd need to do is make the crotch piece have moveable sections so he can have full leg range.
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>>6566616
No they're not. Look at the bloated yet somehow stubby arms of Megatron.
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>>6566643
Except it's that MP-10 actually has arms that are too long. This has been a complain for a long time. I love the figure, but it's the one issue it has. And even so, that's the only fucking difference between the two, so nice cherrypicking.
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>>6566522
In japan, windblade is nijikas little sister
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>>6566628
>>6566628
>>6566633
>people want another prime
I never understood such people
Same with prople collecting over 900000 Spider mans.
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>>6566685
MP-10 is outdated, I don't see what's wrong with wanting another one. And even when it was new, a lot of people didn't like the proportions.

It's not like they're asking for a fucking Figma Saber 3.0 or something.
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>>6566257
That's what I first thought, but I haven't been able to spot parts that really are the same, or same enough to be remolded.
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>>6566689
>I don't see what's wrong with wanting another one.
you already have Prime. why would you want another one?

>MALIBU STACEY!
>NOW WITH NEW HAT!
literally
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>>6566689
>MP-10 is outdated
It really isn't. It's just not geewun enough to fit with current figures. Nobody had an issue with it until MP-36 got teased and it became obvious how poorly it matched up.
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>>6566248
More like the three teams will feature shared molds between each other but none of them will have the exact same 4 limb molds.
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>>6566633
>but I'm curious to see what they could improve.
The headsculpt, gun sculpt, and proportions mainly. The arms are too long, the hips are far enough apart to look odd in a reference pose, the knees are a little low, and the rest of the leg stops short to make room for the tall feet.

But you know what's going to suck? Today's Takara would leave all the bolts and mechanical detail off for soap-looking cartoon accuracy.
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>>6566720
You don't even notice those details unless you shove the toys up to your nose.
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>>6566722
Yeah, you wouldn't notice those details if you transformed it once and stuck it up on a high shelf for the last 5 years.
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>>6566725
Hey, if I want details I have movie figures for that. G1 characters aren't detailed.
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>>6566709
>It's just not geewun enough to fit with current figures.
...then it's considered "outdated" with the line.
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>>6566747
This is such a terrible metric for the toyline. It means we only get 10 figures or so before the aesthetic changes and we need to start again?

We just need Hasui back in charge. Somebody post that quote of him talking about his vision for the MP line. He was the hero we needed.
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>>6566760
> I created them in the hope that they would supplement the memories. The toys in the 80s are not even close to the modern toys in terms of refinement, but I think the fans who followed Transformers back then used information obtained through various media such as magazines or the cartoon to supplement the image in their mind.
I believe MPs are meant to be the embodiment of that image. Neither making the cartoon version into a three dimensional form nor making it as realistic as possible is a good idea. The important thing for me has been to create a MP product through which you can meet yourself from the past, in which you can find a toy you have been dreaming of. It was certainly a difficult and harsh challenge.
I made a list of candidates (to be made into a MP figure) and I thoroughly checked what they did in which episodes and with whom. I referred to the list when planning the MP lineup. I also studied the impressive parts of the original toy’s transformation process to see if they could be incorporated into the new toy, and extensively collected cartoon reference materials and comic book illustrations. The MP series was always highly anticipated by the fans and I myself desired to create a better product – I suppose those factors worked out positively in me.
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>>6566760
I got you, bro

>H: MP is the most prestigious series and it is often seen as the series for the main characters, but we released those sub-characters last year. They did not appear in the cartoon very often and may not make the top 10 popular character list, but their vehicle mode is Lamborghini Countach and I thought it might appeal to the generations that Super Cars were the craze in their childhood. For MPs, the most important precondition is the faithful re-creation of cartoon robot and alternate modes, and we obtained the official license from Lamborghini and went ahead with the development.

>For MPs, the most important precondition is the faithful re-creation of cartoon robot and alternate modes

>For MPs
>the most important precondition
>is the faithful re-creation of the cartoon
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Contrary to the rest of /tfg/, I like post MP-09 MPs they have a balance of realism and cartoon accuracy and aren't disasters like MP-05 and MP-03
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>>6566771
forgot to add post MP-09 and pre MP-27
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>>6566760
I was just pointing out that definition
>It's just not geewun enough to fit with current figures. Nobody had an issue with it until MP-36 got teased and it became obvious how poorly it matched up.
literally matches up with the definition "outdated". If it matches ill with the current figures, it's out of date. Just because you don't think so (and that's fine) doesn't mean anything.

I want a new MP-10 not because I care about how it looks with the current figures (I buy more third parties if anything), I just never liked how MP-10 looked to begin with.
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I swear, Slugslinger looks great no matter the version, but is it really worth the wait getting the Takara ver.?
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>>6566800
>is it really worth the wait getting the Takara ver.?
Yes. Hasbro uses shit plastic, fewer paint apps and lacks a targetmaster. Just be patient and save a few bucks.
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>>6566800
>mfw lucked out and got him off Amazon last night thanks to a based Anon saying he was tossed on Amazon last night for regular price, no scalpershit prices
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>>6566292
For how ridiculously popular HA was Im surprised it just kind of stopped. They should really just have a perpetual MP-lite line, rather than having one come and go.
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>>6566814
Too many stinkers. The twins, Sideswipe, the Wreckers... the Jazzes and Barricades were the exception, not the norm.
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Eurofag here who's going to visit Tokyo soon and eventually check out Akibahara, exactly which stores sell vintage stuff and how many Merkelbucks should I be ready to shill out for them?
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>>6566821
Where are you from eurobro?
Im going to visit Berlin and was wondering where i will have the most chances to get all kinds of TF-toys?
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>>6566685
some people just really like a certain hero/character
also many don't buy the old ones and want something new to get at better cost.
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>>6566800
How much to you want accuracy and a Targetmaster?
if the answer is very low to not at all, just get the Hasbro one at cost. You will be paying twice as much(give or take) to get the takara version on top of the wait.

I'm owning both sets of the Target masters because I like the Triggerhappy mold that much but I don't buy TFs to any volume that the $120ish USD to get all six bothers me. It's been a meh year for me for TFs.
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>>6566562
I feel like Megs looks worse overall. He has amazing engineering but he is a zigzag mess and that cartoon accuracy paint gives an uncanny valley feel to him. That said I get the hellish lose/lose of him, he turns into a very specific gun mode and almost none of it shows in bot mode but the toy it's self just seems off.
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>>6566574
Seriously. Sloppy logos is probably the worst recent trend.
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>>6566847
Portugal here, I've never been to Berlin itself but I go to Düsseldorf and Köln every year and TF distribution is usually pretty solid around the usual retail spots. Most TRUs and general toy stores alike are usually up to date with the latest releases, but you might want to Google a little to find the ones that are specific to "geek / otaku" collectibles.
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>>6566857
You are smart.
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>Fortmax down to 150 milkbags on amazon.ca
>still not happy with the price, but now it's almost out of stock too

Alright I bit the bullet and ordered this stupid retard baby. Who makes the best sword and gun for him?

I heard the perfect effect ones are too heavy for him to actually hold or something.
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>>6566897
retard
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>be in America
>anons bitch the threads go to shit while America is awake
>now America is asleep
>thread is completely fucking dead
Really makes you think....
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>>6566900
/tfg/ is full of freedom
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>>6566900
>thread is completely fucking dead

Don't you enjoy the peace?
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I forget, it's been so long since I ordered from TFSource, do they charge preorders when you order them or not until the item is instock?
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>>6566906
retard
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>>6566821
i can only say mandarake, sure you can visit them online but no shipping cost if you buy direct.

Sorry I lack more info, i know thrist stores can buy and sell literally anything but ive never been
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>>6566897
>Who makes the best sword and gun for him
well there was the Takara/Hasbro one that was given out in china markets, no idea what the cost is but since it was made for him I wager it's the best you are getting.
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>>6566906
you are not charged till they actually get it in stock but they will not alert you when they get it in/charge you so make sure to watch for that.
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>>6566900
it's less that 50 posters here anon, you are gonna have dead spells. also it's rather telling of your life that you think if the thread is slow it must be because people are sleeping rather than all the other life stuff like work, kids, dating, marriage, shopping for tfs etc.
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>>6566392
the guns included with the hasbro versions are homages to the original target masters, look at the triggerhappy mold and his brothers.

Its more apparent on slugslinger because his gun is basically his old buddy stuck in one mode when combined together but ALL of the relevant target masters in TR have guns that homage them, some are weaker than others because of the whole seat gimmick
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>>6566897
that perfect effect sword is partially made of diecast iirc, better off finding one of the bootleg ones unless you're lucky to nag an asia exclusive hasbro fort max give away sword which has the nicest deco between the 3 official variants
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>>6566265
It's gonna be Dinoking for sure.

What does bother me though is that Cutthroat got Yokuryu's head out of laziness. Anyone got the comparison image?

>>6566376
It's worth it if you can't find the TR version easily and for cheap.
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Holy shit this will be my absolutely favorite deluxe class transformer!
>cool ass bat
>neon pink and purple
>fucking RUBBER parts just like some quality toys of 90s
Holy shit he is the best.
However i dont like his head so i removed it with Full Tilt

Anons i need helf - how anybody has Alpha Trion and Mindwipe?

Please put Alpha Trion head on Mindwipe body? I want to buy AT just for this purpose.
I think in theory if you will attach Alpha Trion to this body it will look like a SPACE DRACULA FROM PLANET TRANSYLVANIA and this is the best thing ever.

Please do!
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>>6566900
That's more a sign it's just one or two anons that shit it up. We only have 51 IPs atm.
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>>6566914
>it's less that 50 posters here anon
Probably because it's Friday night on a 3-day-weekend in America. Kind of proves that the west is truly the lifeblood of /tfg/.
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>>6566935
Anon it stays this low throughout the week. We are lucky to hit 90 by 300.
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>>6566927
Now i need this head.
Vlad Tepes of Valachia from the outer space is something i would love to have.
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>>6566937
The number doesn't matter. I've been up all night and have seen like zero posts. It pretty much proves my point that North America is the heart of /tfg/.
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>>6566505
Ironically this episode was the last episode in the cartoon to feature Perceptor. He got it better than most characters in that he was the main character in his final episode.
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>>6566935
>Kind of proves that the west is truly the lifeblood of /tfg/.
im shittin with posts these days 24/7. And im from europe.
Sometimes im even afraid of getting reported for flooding. Because sometimes it looks like there are few people talking but actually all those 8-9 posts made for me. And im waiting for every answer and instantly sending an answer in like 1 second.

And im from europe.
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>>6566962
You mean (at most) 50 some Americans are the heart of it. So that’s about what? Less than even a .1% of the country? Should I judge your whole country on you solitary stupidity and/or urge to shit post?
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>rubber parts
>quality
You do realise that it will dry up and crack right?
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Anyone else wondering what the next cartoon toy line will be like? It sounds like they are going with full-geewun references but how close to CHUG will the aesthetics be? Will it be drowned out by gimmick lines again?
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>>6566967
>You do realise that it will dry up and crack right?
Depends on the substance of that rubber.
My 90s toys from childhood with rubber parts didnt crack. Just few paint rubs.
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>>6566967
>it will dry up and crack right?
dont leave your toys under heavy sunlight, dumbass
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>>6566971
>>6566972
So far the track record for rubber TFs haven’t been that great.
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>>6566980
Hastak always cheap out on materials
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>>6566962
>I've been up all night and have seen like zero posts.
1. that's pathetic as fuck
2. so one single night in the middle of the fall of a board with 50 people is how you draw a conclusion about the board every day?
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>>6566901
This should be no surprise.
>tfw people assume that you are american by deafult
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>>6566901
no wonder the threads went full 911 whenever takara won
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>>6567013
what these bois transform into?
they both have weapons that look like split-tail from Beast Wars dinobot figure... while they also have wheels.

Wheels with dinosaur tails??
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>>6567015
You can't be serious
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>>6567013
Man, what the fuck even WAS Beast Hunters
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>>6567018
Why? You think i have literally all transformer toys?
I dont have these. So im intrigued by that tail-like weapon.
Not everybody in this thread is an autistic tf-dork that knows everything.
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>>6567019
Excuse to use up the excess ugly paint just like the first Universe line.
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>>6567020
>autistic tf-dork that knows everything.
There are far too many of those in the fandom.
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>>6566857
He's seriously impressive outside of the clearance and paint issues.

By liberating the chest from being the actual side of the gun it allows proper proportions. Letting the thighs be the end of the end of the gun instead of forcing the arms that way they allow the shins to be skinny enough for a proper gun grip, which is something none of the third parties have handled right.

With each main part being separate from the whole it avoids the stupid arm ligaments the first one had and gives him proper joints, actually some of the best joints of any mp. His ab crunch is godly.
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>>6567027
decent dragonformers though
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>>6567035
True dat.
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>>6567033
You can't argue with those seductive thighs.
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>>6567038
Dem shins tho.
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>>6567019
>wave 3 literally just oversized scout toys
Prime toyline went out with a whimper
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>>6567045
>Oversized
>Have even less articulation than their cyberverse versions
>Removed combining feature
>Don't even release all members anyways
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>>6567053
Yeah, the tail end of BH was easily one of the most baffling points in Transformers. Thankfully there was never another line that did something as stupid as selling oversized Cyberverses as Deluxe class figu-

Oh.
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>>6567060
Oh, it's you again.
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>>6566804
>Hasbro uses shit plastic
They literally use the same plastic
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>>6567060
how about oversized one step though
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>>6567064
Legends Chromia used far better plastic than Generations Chromia, so no. Gen Chromia's biceps have the consistency of gummy bears.
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>>6567013
>>6567015
TF beast hunters Ratchet
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>>6567070
Is true. Am american, confused Gen Chromia's biceps for gummy bears, ate them.
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What would happen if (this is theoretical as it won't really happen) everyone collectively stopped buying hasbro OR takara transformers completely?
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>Dug out the Darksaber to pose with Sky Shadow
>Blade flies off the hilt when changing poses
Now I remember why I didn't touch the Darksaber much back then.
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>>6567093
They'd stop producing them.
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>>6567093
>hasbro
As the line dies a slow death (because diehards will sustain it to the bitter end) the prices will increase to insane levels to the point where hasbro only keeps the brand alive with smaller cashapon/blind box toys with bare minimum transformation, and when a movie comes out they shit out legion class figures for movie deluxe prices, and made in minimal numbers.

>takara
MP line discontinued, takara puts more effort/saves money by continuing other japanese exclusive lines, basically just throws stickers on hasbro intended tf's much like current tlk line but imported in minimal numbers because japan is smaller than the rest of the world and even less interest than ever before.
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>>6567095
I'm reminded of how intricate the Armada Minicons are again. They have more parts than anything similarly-sized toy from the past few years. These little planes even have flip-out front landing gears.
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>>6567093
When Transformers died down back in the early 90s, Takara made the Brave series which was like Transformers reskinned. So they'll just do that again I guess. Or maybe throw their money somewhere entirely.
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>>6567105
Holy shit I knew brave and tf were connected and how some molds were just retools but didn't realize it was then they started.

I wonder what would happen if takara took back the brave series over bandai, would we get a revival mp-brave series with goagaigar or would that have been during a brand shift?
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>>6567105
TT just doesn't have the resources and funding to do another franchise show by themselves. The last attempt at something on their own was Transformers Go! and I guess that didn't go too well.
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>>6567116
wasnt that much like the beast wars anime, acting as a stop gap between series?

They have other liens like shinkalion and those funky car things, and hell SOMEHOW diaclone is still going despite NO fiction to go with it.

That in itself is incredible considering the prices of even the powered suits
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>>6567110
Takatomy don't seem to be too interested in the Brave series, they dove into making an MP Exkaiser + Dragonkaiser but ended it at there. They aren't doing much with Zoids either, a franchise they actually have ownership over.

>>6567116
They sponsored and did the toylines for Time Bokan 24 (S2 just started), Tomica Drivehead, Shinkalion (TV anime next year). They seem to be doing well outside Transformers, just not outside Japan.
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Shuffler has found the perfect body.
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>>6567125
Were those ones actually popular or were they banking on nostalgia to win people over like with diaclone though?

>zoids
I know kotobukiya keep making kits, and so far they only done 2 zoid mp's but those came out very slowly, costly, and seem just like big more detailed versions of the original zoids just with a full pre-built inner frame that moves rather than just a motor box you build around.

I honestly think the koto-kits are a better choice with the articulation they offer and now koto was smart enough to do 1/100 action figures I don't see mp zoids being useful unless they came pre-built
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>mfw I just realized diaclone v2 is basically the japanese rival of acid rain toy line with the added bonus of nostalgia

So that's how they're still alive, now they just need to tie in tf's and we can make real oc shit.
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>>6567063
He woke up and resumed his fag shenanigans, now he'll be here all days shitposting just you watch.
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>>6567099
>As the line dies the prices will increase to insane levels
Is that why it's getting more expensive now?

My country has already given up on Transformers. The prices have been insane for years with shit distribution.
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>>6566248
This won't happen at least for the retailer releases. Even in CW, Hasbro kept 2/3 of the mainline releases predominantly autobot even having filler 84/85 autobots as combiners.

In contrast Takara actually had more decepticon combiner teams like Megatronia/Galvatronus/Baldigus.

So one of these guys is either going to be a boxset or some sort of exclusive release if they do them.
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>>6567068
It's weird but the lines with the poorfaggiest fans seem to have a slower rise in cost. The 6" stuff over the last few years has been really good. Prices have been stable at $20 since 2014. Though we're about due for a bump soon.

Meanwhile, TF quality has been in free fall with an annual 10% price hike from T30 on. At this point, I barely touch the TF lines even if I find them. I like RID but no way are they $15 toys. This year I bought 4. That's it.

So often I hold a Titans Return figure and go "eh...do I really want to pay that for this?" and put it back. I got Getaway because of his mutineering in the comics but haven't even opened it because I just can't be bothered. And looking at POTP, there's some stuff I like but I just know it's going look like hell in stores and I won't feel like it's worth $20.
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>>6567127
Oh man, I thought I was sad about missing him before.
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>>6567168
If you mean Shuffler, he's still on Amazon

I wonder why a lot of people here avoid online retailers
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>>6567165
>At this point, I barely touch the TF lines even if I find them. I like RID but no way are they $15 toys
When figures were cheaper I was more likely to buy a toy I hadn't been planning on getting, more likely to splurge because "eh it's just $10". These days every purchase is made after checking multiple reviews, photos, online-prices, etc. This price-hike shit is nonsense if the complexity of the figure is going down, they want more cash for less plastic..
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>>6567174
Nah, grotesque. I've had shuffler for a minute now, but I've been looking for a good body for him.
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>>6567093
Nothing since the entire process from production to distribution works independently of common sense. It's destined to die a slow death along with retail.

Nips got it right even though they pay more.
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>>6567019
i-i liked BH
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>>6567165
Forget ordering cases either to get around shitribution. God, people are so poor, whining about $4 shipping. They really want fwee priority shipping on a $15 toy. Fuck that noise. You just can't part out cases anymore. It takes forever and you end up paying a massive premium anyway. Better to let some dopey scalper put miles on their car for a few shekels.
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>>6566154
I remember watching that game live. After that I quit the school hockey team
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>>6567064
Takara uses better LOOKING plastic.

For some reason Hasbro's plastic always either has this weird glittery texture to it or it looks semi-translucent and soapy. It looks cheap abd ugly.
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I know he's a manlet and he has an egregious backpack but I do love TLK Barricade.
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>>6567209
should i get dotm nitro bee or battle axe bee
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>>6567200
>wtf am I wearing
Still wonder what the hell they were thinking with this shit.
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>>6567208
Takara is smart enough to use solid plastic colors while hasbro tries to add more "pop" by using metallic injected plastic or adding glitter to the mix, case in point of the later is the weird un-dyed grey tr blaster uses.

Lets be glad hasbro hasn't done anything quite as bad as pic related, it may be a model kit you're supposed to paint but their push for "minimal need to paint" made this exclusive an eye sore
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>>6567127
Shit I didn't realize Grotusque was getting in-hand so fast. Just got mine in this morning.
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>>6567212
Battle Blade Bumblebee. He's amazing, really well engineered and super poseable. Nitro Bee is OK but he's not the mini-masterpiece BBBB is. Though I will say the EXTREEEEEEME details on Nitro Bee's car mode are awesome.
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>>6567212
Murderbee.
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>>6567214
it baffles me phenex actually sells like hotcakes.
are the japs really love unicorn they would buy literally anything out of it
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>>6567201
I finally had to get out of selling. There was no way to make money at it. Literally less than zero profit. If I charged retail, I had a trickle of sales but ended up eating half the table. If I gave in to poorfags just to move product, I ate the whole table and then some but never walked away with enough cash in my box to feel like made anything in absolute terms either. If I could've cleared enough to, say, cut up a credit card or pay off a loan or anything, I could've had a small victory even in defeat. But no, it's a neverending stalemate. Nobody will budge, not even an inch, so neither will I.
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>>6567222
What's not to like about it?
>based on popular unicron design
>set in UC timeline so purist love the latest "lead"
>phoenix motif
>to make it more edgy its named after one of the 72 demons of Great Marquis of Hell
>FRIGGIN BLING

I actually own that shitty model (I literally have shit taste at the worst of times) that was posted and surprise surprise I also went and got me the bigger mastergrade of it, then I went full retard and stripped the BLING chrome because nub marks are hell.

Now I just need the energy to actually paint the damn thing, what's funny is the way the psycoframe splits is the same reason why I liked idw's black bomber megatron, ended up buying one aaaand was dissapointed to learn only the takara version paints the "cracks".

If only I knew
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>>6567208
takara Scrourge look crappy. Hasbro one looks badass and cool with gorgeous silver face, cool as fuck chest print and those leg prints

But hey TAKAWA IF BETTEW BCUZ I GWEW IP WIThH G1 CAWTOON :(

takaracuck indeed.
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>>6567239
Takara's looks better because it actually has fucking paint, doesn't have that gaudy shiny look, and it doesn't have tacky G1 toy inspired decals

But Hasbrofags have shit taste, what else is new.
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>>6567208
Jesus christ the Hasbro one looks so fucking bad.
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>>6567243
The deco isn't even complete, what would of been the harm in giving him white fucking thighs?

Ended up just as bad as blurr, with blur as fucking shit as he was WAS accurate to the g1 toy.

With scourge blue thighs would of broken him up just a bit more, I'm suspecting however if hasbro didn't do this krok and quake may have turned out to be the "bland" figures since the later end of TR wasn't so bad
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>>6567243
I don't think it's a matter of taste. It's a matter of is a toy worth more than double the price for having different colors? To get either one in the US it costs $17 for Hasbro Scourge or $44 for the Takara one. They're just toys anyway.
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>>6567256
I'd ALWAYS rather get the better looking toy instead of filling my shelves with cheap crap.
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>>6567266
I'd rather own neither than spend that kind of money for a deluxe-sized toy.
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>>6567269
Owning neither is also a better option over accumulating a bunch of ugly toys because
"dur le cheaper haha xD"

I either buy the best option or I don't buy anything.
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>>6567269
Finally the voice of reason!
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>>6567256
There are other factors here.

>takara does it better qc wise
Is it a meme, most of the time it is, but as an owner of 2 hasbro and one takara the 2 hasbro's have the boggly head problem and their joints are far too loose, its to the point where the hasbro guys stand up straight while the takara one does the real dynamic shit
>looks are important
Show accuracy or not the hasbro is a blue as fuck and only good thing is his ship mode, so my sweeps are always in ship mode because its the only mode they're good at on the shelf
>quality vs quantity
So you would rather fill your shelf with hundreds of cheaper hasbro products than a few, much better done takara products?

Yes, at times things do vary, one should learn to be patient and wait for both versions to be announced and then decide unless a sale comes along (hence why I own the shitty tr blaster and it was a good damn sale).

>hur dur they both suffer defects, l-l-look at legends hotrod's lips!
They sure do, and we've already adopted the mentality of keeping floor polish to fix them so what does it matter anymore?
>>6567269
>>6567271
You 2 are the smartest posters I've seen today.

In the end we buy what we like and don't buy what we don't, why compromise (I just wish sales didn't tempt me so hard, that and the lack of an mp blaster makes me cry every time...)
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>>6567266
>I'd ALWAYS rather get the better looking toy instead of filling my shelves with cheap crap.
then why did you buy shitty takara Kup version with cuck face?
And crappy takara Scourge without any stand out prints on his legs?
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>>6567232
unicorn would have been seriously awesome if it looked like that. Reminds me of the visuals in some scenes of 0079 and Zeta
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>>6567174

He's like $10+ on Amazon though. The fucker is only supposed to be $5. I'm not knocking buying online, since I buy everything online because I'm a NEET. But that doesn't mean I want my wallet to be raped online either.

Only time I've seen him for anything approaching the price he should be is in the full wave sets people sell.
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>>6567277
I love how you're valuing some shitty looking G1 decals over actual COLOR on his thighs.

Kup looks better because his arms give a better silhouette and his face doesn't constantly look like he just smelled someone farting. The head proportions in general are just better on Takara version. Hasbro made the forehead too big.
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>>6567277
>I hate the thing because muh opinion is the right one

No one give him any (you)s
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>>6567278
The 1:1 (not really its locked on unicorn mode height) has its lights change something like that.

The stock model kit led's will never get this effect unless you know how to make them yourself
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>>6567288
reflective rainbow paints i dunno
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>>6567278
https://youtu.be/3-RNrAtlA-0
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>>6567283
Whoah, let's not joke around here. Both versions of Kup have AWFUL faces. It's do you want the face of an angry fart or the face of a dementia patient who lost his dentures? Hasbro went too hard for the "war veteran" looking face and Takara went too far for "crotchety old man". It really should've just been in between to begin with so it actually resembled Kups face as he is.
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>>6567296
>It's do you want the face of an angry fart or the face of a dementia patient who lost his dentures?

I'll take the one that actually looks like fucking Kup.
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>>6566685
Because I would like one with nicer proportions and certainly better articulation. MP-10 has a 90 degree elbow bend, which is pathetic for the size and price of the figure.
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>>6567110
>>6567125

The only sunrise license takara has now is votoms iirc. Takara reviving the MP Brave would be interesting though. The MPB Exkaiser added articulation while maintaining the same basic transformation process as his original toy. Much like how Yuusha granddaddy star saber's MP has a shitton of articulation but still shares the simple transformation of his original toy.

For the other Braves, I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same as Exkaiser and star saber instead of how current MPs have complex engineering done for show accuracy.
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>>6567296
I like Takara Kup more. The gen one had a really strange face sculpt and the TR one is trying to be like the G1 toy, but looks extremely off.
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I think I must be the only one that thinks both Scourges look a bit mediocre. Like, it's not terrible, and the space boat mode looks cool as hell, but I really wish the wings were more impressive. I always thought Scourge's design with the big impressive technodemonic wings was really cool, and the TR/LG figure just has some flaps of kibble.

The Takara version is definitely better though. At least he has actual colour breakup.
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>>6567066
This would have been shit on so badly during the chug days. Transfag have the worst case of Stockholm syndrome. Thank god for 3p.
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>>6567296
>Hasbro went too hard for the "war veteran" looking face
I think they did it too well.
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>>6567013
Never seen the repaint on the right. Who's it supposed to be?
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>>6567472
It's the Takara version, Hunter Ratchet. They didn't get the Beast Wars references with the BH line so they opted to paint it green like Bayformer Ratchet.
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>>6567479
What's with the Decepticon logo?
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>>6567481
Dunno. Takara decided to make him a 'con I suppose. There was one episode of TF:Prime where he was high on Energon and turned aggressive.
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>>6567102
They were fantastic
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>>6566538

I really don't collect MPs at all but i have Sunstreaker and the rerelase of Sideswipe on Pre order. i just think he's cool looking I guess and Lambos are cool.
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>>6566139
My wife says hello.
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>>6566897
Someone who has the PE "Titans Cannon" confirm this? I was planning to pick it up at some point, is it actually too heavy for TR FortMax to hold properly?
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>>6566821
decide what you want to buy before you go, otherwise you'll either end up buying nothing or just a bunch of garbage.




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