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Previous: >>7040702

>le stay tuned faec
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What if Optimus Prime was an ICBM Launcher?
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>>7042822
Why does Hasbro bother if they can't even beat the most kino Optimus Prime toy?
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Are there people who actually buy every version of optimus that comes out?
Since I started collecting a few years ago the only op I've has been mp10
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>>7042835
Yes, same as people buy every RX-78 Bandai releases.
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>>7042832
Is kino the new word for "mediocre"?
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If i wanted to buy a 3p Giga and Mega for Overlord, are some better than others? If so, which?
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>>7042835
I'd wager that about 75% of transformers collectors buy almost nothing but the same sunbow season 1 and 2 characters every chance they get, and a good number of casuals and kids mostly just buy Optimus Primes and Bumblebees. There's more variety in collectors in /tfg/ but if you wander into other forums, pretty much every other guy is a basic bitch collector with a shelf full of Optimuses.
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>>7042835
>Are there actually people who buy the same character over and over
This is such a /toy/ thing I can't help but think you started collecting toys yesterday. No offensive, but I see it constantly so it's weird you haven't.
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>>7042822
Uhhh, that silhouette is literally just PotP Optimus with a new axe.
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>>7042785
Maybe when I buy a Classics Voyager Optimus and get crushed under one of its kibble shields.
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>>7042845
>m-muh easy to ignore arm kibble
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>>7042832
>>7042845
Basically. If he just had better hands and separate feet I could forgive the arm kibble. I prefer open hands, but first are OK as long as they're nicely sculpted. That Prime has the worst kind of fist hands, where they're basically solid blocks with holes in them.
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Anyone bought the KO combiner sets?
I want to complete the combiners but I'm too poor to eat the shipping.
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>>7042853
Or a weird shaped dong
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>>7042871
some linked a blogpost about defensor and it looked pretty good, did they do computron yet?
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>>7042871
They work. I just bought the hands though, don't know about the Menasor parts I've been seeing or the Bruticus parts on ebay. There's already pre-orders or whatever for Abominus hands sets for August-October release, but that seems sketchy as hell.
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Does this count as a gerwalk mode?
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Loving this trio.
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>>7042988
Straxus is a good Con, nobody ever seems to post him though. I wish I'd gotten the Skullgrin repaint. He was a warlord of sorts, right? How many usurpers has Megatron had to put up with during his reign?
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Nemesis prime is up on amazon for preorder
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>>7042967
Sure, go nuts.

Everything is a gerwalk if you don't skip leg day.
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>>7042988
>>7043008
I can get a Darkmount for around $5 but Bludgeon will probably net me around $20. I've seen Thunderwing for around $10. Might just be happy with Straxus as is, how good is he of a figure? He seems to be quite loved

>Straxus (Blaster and later on Megatron sorta kill him)
>Shockwave (back and forth)
>Ratbat (forget how he left the picture)
>Scorponok (replacement)
>Galvatron (uhh)
There was also some weirdo Decepticon council that crazed Megatron comes back and dismembers
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>>7043017
My only issue with Straxus/Darkmount is is legs can be a bit loose, and his extra 'artillery mode' is sorta crap. He's otherwise pretty awesome though, if you can get him cheap go for it.
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>>7042988
I've been thinking I should get that Thunderwing just to terrorize my legends-scale figures.
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So Apeface and snap dragon are on that prime wars trilogy mural despite neither getting a larger figure. Did warden fuck up that badly or is wfc still a continuation and not a real new trilogy?
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>>7042835
>Are there people who actually buy every version of optimus that comes out?

Why not? It's not like there aren't people who buy every version of Batman, Mickey Mouse, or some other character they like.
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>>7043029
What
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>>7043029
It's a real new line but I don't see why they wouldn't make toys of characters they haven't done real versions of yet. What a strange way of thinking.
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>>7042835
You missed that time a Bumblebee collector posted on /toy/ with his hive.
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>>7043046
Because "triple-changing headmaster" is a gimmick in line with the last arc.
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>>7043048
Doesn't matter
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>>7043029
What are you talking about
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>early sdcc rumors are saying that no larger figures for the 3 decepticon monster headmasters
>both parts of flywheels and orange dumptruck is wave 1 for legends and a repack of thrilling 30 Swerve
>Monstructor is present but no Seacons
>theme is decepticon military unification vs autobot enginuity/invention
>cons are all combiners outside of leaders and faction changers
>decepticon legends figures all combine as duocons
>new galvatron figure based on an unproduced megatron design
>More Pretenders and late era g1 shit. Autobot cars are based off of old concept vehicles like hot rod
>Wfc is essentially power of the primes part II as far as toys go many retools from prime wars trilogy
>Overlord has very desireable hips everyone wants them
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>>7043104
https://www.fanfiction.net/
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>>7043104
Is Orange Dumptruck combination-compatible?
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>>7043109
Sounds like it would be Wideload, meaning it probably is not since he's a throttlebot. That being said, probably just fan fiction.
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>>7043109
Might be an idw character the only orange dumptruck is from g2 and it was part of devastator
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>>7043113
Seems more likely than Scoop's buddy, being less orangey and not quite as hilariously undersized,
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Landcross is essentially all duocons and there is an orange truck part of him. But I doubt hasbro would produce such a large and complex Japanese character.
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>>7043104
>early sdcc rumors
I seriously hope nobody reads beyond this
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>>7043121
Can components be recolored as someone else?
Doesn't seem completely impossible.
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>>7042832
I just recently got my first version of this mold and while it’s definitely a good toy I just don’t understand the reverence people have for it. CW Optimus is basically the same toy but without the arm kibble (still has bad back kibble) and with arguably better guns, but people shit all over that thing while praising the Classics. It really just comes down to how beefy you want your Prime when it comes to the two.
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>>7043013
Hopefully yours wont' come with two right arms on Nemesis Pax like mine did.
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>>7043104
>monstructor
so what, is every limb a blot remold?
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>>7043129
>CW Optimus is basically the same toy but without the arm kibble
and with flat fake window boobs
and with gorilla arms
and with a pinhead
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>>7043136
Nimrod Bellum
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>>7043129
>CW Optimus is basically the same toy
Massively broad upper body, wide shoulders, pinhead, flat chest that just draws attention to the previous drawbacks. The proportions are just plain substantially worse.
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>>7043152
>Prime figure
>complaining about gorilla arms


Stop being racist against Maximals.
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>>7043152
>>7043153
Also don't forget drowning in the dullest gray, a complete joke of an altmode, and criminally hollow
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>>7043021
A bit worried about loose stuff, could never find pledge and couldn't be assed to mix nail polish with water - I have only myself to blame.

But I'll be grabbing Straxus and Thunderwing for $5 each this weekend so I'm happy. For once, I'm happy.
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>>7043175
So you have a Menards nearby? Bought pledge there and it works, better than nail polish.
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>>7043179
*do
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>>7043179
I'm in Canada, I haven't seen them at dollar stores but I haven't been to hardware stores because I've never remembered about pledge and voluntarily gone to hardware stores. Really unsure whether it's a regional thing or if I'm just dum. Might ask some folks at TFcon about it. Also worried about having an entire bottle of floor polish when I'd only need like, a handful for a few years

>>7043180
No worries.
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>>7043113
>the only orange dumptruck
>Who is Wideload
Retard
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>>7043104
>both parts of flywheels and orange dumptruck is wave 1

It's not true because that's exactly what I want
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>get Kreons in blind bags, complete randos and movie-post, save for Galvatron and later Hot Rod
>make an Ultra Magnus out of Huffer, have a swell time at the dorm with my ragtag crew of misfits
>get season 1-2 main boys, start playing with them less and less
>subsequently amass nearly 300, most are in boxes and tins now, perused or emptied once a month or so

Does this psychology make sense or even relate for anyone?

>grab Sentinel on clearance and was disinterested in titans return
>he's still my frequently played with figure while most are displayed and occasionally transformed

Is it like the relaxedness knowing that with randos you can be a bit playful/reckless with playing with them, or
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>>7043124
I unironically didn’t. /tfg/ taught me that you can’t trust anybody.
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>>7043124
I trust nothing from /toy/ on face value, I trust what is actually shown.

Shame TFW takes this place as a legit source of news before verifying a damn thing. Too many posters admit to making shit up after a news site reports it and then it turns out to be false later on anyway
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>60 bucks for a dollar store quality bumblebee and a couple cassette bots

I might consider the ape though
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>>7043312
Shit he’s way cheaper than I thought he’d be.

I figured it would be bullshit pricing at 99.99
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>>7043312
>Comes with the fucking Dino cassettes of all things
What the flying fuck
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>>7043312
>$70
Ehhhhh. I don't know if I can handle a leader class for that much.
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>>7043339
I heard they were lost and they finally found the molds again in a earlier thread
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>>7043339
in shit colors though, does anyone want a clear tape bot?

>inb4 "but there were actual clear cassettes in the 80s"

Big deal, the robot's gonna look fucking awful because of it.
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Power of the Primes Minerva Prime
https://youtu.be/wnLwFMZ5gng
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MAXIMALS ARE EVIL!!!!!!
LIEGE MAXIMO = MAXIMALS
GET IT?
SUCK IT BWFAGS!!!!
LOL
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>>7043426
Das stupid
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>>7043426
>>7043445
This was Hasbro's doing btw, they wanted this because of the vote sometime back where they chose to make Primal chaotic evil or whatever category they called him.
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>>7043452
He was chaos, because him becoming prime would upend things
All three chaos options were known, in multiple fictions, to be wildcards
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>>7042832
Get outta way, bitch.
_______
>>7043312
Wow, the Ebonite King costs ten dollars less than I initially thought. Nice.
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>>7043426
Is Fortress Maximus an evil Maximal too? Maximus, Maximal, Maximo, Maxipad
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>>7043312
the golden bee might be the rumored fixed version where it's less prone to popping apart, and those cassetes are the first ever official us release of the molds.
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>>7043426
They're not the same characters so who cares
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>>7043522
>being this retarded
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>>7043530
Not any more retarded than >>7043426
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>>7042832
I like this mould but goddamn if those arm shield kibble blocks don't kill it
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>>7043537
>3P upscale version lets them come off
>but had retarded ugly new head and not this head

Fix one problem, create another
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Oh god the image in the OP is just Optimus when he dies. It's the death of optimus Prime, literally the same figure but with an axe and everything is painted gray I bet.

That's why the little pulse image is there. My guess is it's going to either be an NYCC exclusive or some other gay tedious mess that hard to purchase.
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>>7043552
I want to say it's a dumb idea but MP-01 got such a release too.

It's also a perfect exclusive. No one need it, missing it at retail is no big loss. They learned something from that Botcon Thundercracker bullshit.
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>>7042871
Got the g2 Bruticus KO and an oversized defensor. Bruticus is pretty good in my opinion but I use the limbs for another combiner as there pretty cheap and can be used by the official versions.

Oversized Defensor is just a 1:1 copy of the UW version (excluding the emblem) with diecast to help support its weight. It leans forward slightly due to its weight but I would still recommend it because its so cheap. I'll post pics later.
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>>7043555
>a gray orion pax

Oh god I need it, the gray orion pax was a generic autobot in many background scenes.
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>>7043567
>not pictured here
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>>7043575
more studio series/rereleases to pad out the year seems reasonable, but 2 new MPMs in the next 6 months?
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>>7043575
What's TC?
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Turbo Change series
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TakaraTomy are releasing MPM-6 and 7 out of order.
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>>7043312
>>7043339
>ME BIZARRO!
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>>7043597
Oh wow, he's presenting.
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>>7043312
A fuck i only wanted to pay 70 total for choco Primal. Shipping will put him over 80 for me
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BlId3_xhmby/
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>>7043660
>finally the right altmode
>shit bot mode
It's all so tiresome
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>>7043660

>that robot mode
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>>7043386
>Name already is Latin
That joke worked better than expected.
Better than Beeimus Prime at least.
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>>7043591
Presumably ThunderCracka
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>>7043661
>>7043661
There's only one answer
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>>7043660
Lmao it even the uses the same engineering as the previous BB molds
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>>7043657
HTS usually has free shipping at that point.
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>>7043312

Is Munky going to be available anywhere else like Amazon or TRU?
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>>7043660
Head is cool, but everything else is bleh
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>>7043660

Eh, for a gimmick toy it isn't too bad.

Still waiting for the Studio Series stuff though. And even then I'm more waiting for a decent toy of that Starscream.
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>>7043677
I'm more impressed that they managed to get a gimmick toy to look like it came out of the 07 movie toyline.
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>>7043660
For a gimmick toy it's alright. At least it actually has articulation. The SS will hopefully be much better.
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>>7043672
I don't since it's continental usa. I'd send it to a friend over there since we meet up once a year but his packages are beings stolen since usps keeps leaving them at the door.
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>>7042822
I don't get it, it is just the POTP Prime with an axe
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>>7043312
>Sold out
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
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>>7043767
Dude, it's not even up yet.
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>>7043777
Oh, thought that meant it already sold out.
Thank you.
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>>7043660
Maybe it's just me but I kinda think that Bee's new battle mask kind of resembles G1 Bee's toy head a little bit
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>>7043766
People in /tfg/ are idiots. What else is there to get?
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>>7043426
Why do you keep bringing this shit here? You clearly know no one reads this garbage otherwise you see no reason to share it here and shitpost so loudly
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>>7043798
I mean, you are gonna need to sit on the site like a hawk this weekend into Tuesday to make sure you even have a shot at it, this will likely go out minutes after being put up.
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>>7043312
If Blacked Primal came with two maces, I'd be totally up for him at that price.
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>>7043766
There are some different bits, mostly the backpack seems bigger.
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>>7043673
Unlikely,The SDCC deal with TRU was an attempt to keep them held up and get traffic to their site, now that they are basically dead they won't work with them and Amazon isn't well liked and other retailers have pull stock on certain brands that gave Amazon exclusives or even as piety as Amazon getting first dips. It's why most toy lines struggle to get stock there is because places like Walmart, Target and the like get fearful it will directly cut into their foot traffic.
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>>7043831
Fuck, that isn't a new figure, they're probably giving him Sideswipes jet pack.
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>>7043312
SDCC Primal
>no new retooled parts
>two new accessories
>worthless TMs
>69.99

Nemesis Prime
>2 retooled parts
>3 new accessories
>a transforming bird sword.
>49.99

Is this just a SDCC thing?
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>>7043339
>>7043358

I really don't get why they made one translucent orange at all. They did one very similar if not identical to the original release colors and then the dark blue one in complete opposite ass colors. I would be less bothered if both were changed, and both translucent colors, cause it's mind numbingly frustrating they seemed arbitrarily switch one and not the other.
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>>7043825
>8/13
I don't think it's this weekend.
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>>7043842
I don't get why Nemesis stayed at normal Leader price, since he came with four more accessories.

On Primal he has 4 TM, and assuming they're selling them at half their normal costs (so 2.50) that's at least 10, the mace and chrown could easily add another 5, but they're also advertising the stupid throne so that also factors into the increase since it's huge, even if it is cardboard.
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>>7043852
NP is $5 more at least her in the states, Leaders are $44.99
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>>7043860
Amazon normally charged them at 50, they normally reduce them back to 45 later. Hasbro also has Leaders at 50 on their site so that's probably their suggested retail price, stores just seem to lower the POTP leaders to 45.
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>>7043831
Looks like a whole new figure to me, just reusing the same details and proportions they lifted from MP-10 for PotP. Because effort and originality are counterproductive when you're catering to a bunch of nostalgic boomers and welfare manchildren who will buy literally anything if it's new and looks like the 80s.

I'm starting to hate this hobby, I swear to god. I hate the state of it, at least.
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>>7043867
Wasn't the next line Cybertronian vehicle modes with Earth robot modes or something to that effect?

Fuck, you might be right. They only need to alter a truck bits on Pax, and mabye some trailer parts, but the super mode would essentially stay the same.
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>>7043842
>Is this just a SDCC thing?
Yes. It's an exclusive being sold to "casuals" in person who don't know/care about a price hike, because its exclusive.
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>>7043831
given the look of that bumblebee, it makes me wonder if it's an 80s themed bayformer optimus
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>>7043875
if so, I'll buy it
i passed on OP cause I just bought pmop in TR, but next year i'll have some more budget I can blow on a neat cybertronian leader optimus
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>>7043661
C'mon dude, can you bee more positive?
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>>7043918
>shitty bot mode
>but finally the right alt mode
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>>7043930
Is this a kaguya-hime reference?
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New DNA Optimal upgrade color pics.
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>>7043937
Apparently so. I've had like one person point that out, you are the second.
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>>7043943
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>>7043502
POTP OP looks good (gray trailer bits aside) but the overall effect of the gimmick kills if for me.

I like the design they went with for Orion Pax, too, but I think they would've been better off as separate figures.
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>>7043943
>>7043951
I want to like this but that giant front wheel is added so poorly. They should have found some other way to give Primal front wheels.
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>>7042822
I scroll through and keep seeing this image and keep thinking Teabagger Prime.
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>>7043967
Theres just no room for it, it has to partsform due to the main mold limitations.
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>>7043973
Was there now way to add them into the arms? You could probably fit one small wheel on each arm, even if that does increase the cost.
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>>7043979
You'll end with arm kibble and have more fans angry about it.
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>>7043943
I like this one more.
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>>7044000
Munky, the three-headed dragon
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>>7044000
Looks alright, not as good as Chaddimus tho.
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>>7042822

Why is everyone assuming this is a "dead" Optimus figure because of the pulse graphic? That's just the logo of the Hasbro Pulse social media outlet.
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>>7044014
MP-01 got a dead recolor when they were retiring the mold so it's not unheard of.
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What are you still to get this year?

I've only got a few left, of potp I'm only looking for Windcharger and Beachcomber. MP Cordon and Prowl+ and Rebirth Hotrod. I also considered Predaking, maybe if I can get him cheaper.
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>>7044226
Currently:

-Bomb Burst
-Waverider (if he ever comes out)
-Throne of the Primes

I already have everything else or have it on Pre-order (Primal, and Hun-garr
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>>7044226
-Waverider if he gets released
-Firestar
-Punch/Counterpunch
-Dlx Repugnus
-Outback
-Cindersaur
Maybe hasbro Blastoff, but not sure, already have a uw on the way.

unofficial stuff
-DNA Optimal upgrade
-TCW Abominus upgrade
-KFC Simba reissue- Victory Leo
- Weijiang Guardia- Omega Supreme
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>>7044226
The Wave 3 Pretenders, Blast Off, Repugnus, Throne, Wreck. Novastar for sure too. A KO Defensor and Sunstreaker too.

Skipping Nemesis probably, most likely axe Prime, Predaking and non-Throne Optimal for sure. I’ll get an Onyx on ebay or something by himself. Haven’t decided on Inferno. Likely skipping Jolly Rancher Unicron too.

I’ll have to wait and see what the other exclusives are.
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>>7044304
Oh, forgot Punch/Counterpunch.
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>>7043661
to be fair, it looks like it's one of those typically shitty big simplified toys for kids under a gimmick line. Here's hoping the standard Deluxe/Voyager figures to come from this movie are decent, even though we all know they probably won't be.
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>>7043661

You whiney geewun faggots are the only thing that's tiresome.
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>>7044304
>Haven’t decided on Inferno
He seems to be the perfect custom fodder, I want to turn him into Pyro, but haven't found a decent head yet.
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>>7044226
Hun-Grr, Moonracer, Elita and if Firestar comes out cool. Would like Punch/Counterpunch but we'll see how hard it is to get.
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>>7043660
>Well it's yellow and a Beetle. Other than that, it's not Bumblebee.

>But bee's have wings!!! Derp

>Let's make this the last toy of this mute loser doppleganger.
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>>7044394
>waah you don't like Bayformers shit how dare you

Fuck you, you have shit taste. I don't know how retarded a person has to be to like Bay shit but I'd wager it's close to CWC-tier, and even not actually directing this one, it' still got Bay's shit signature all over it.
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>>7044430
I don't understand what you are saying.
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>>7044394
>defending the films
There's no way to take you seriously, anon.
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>>7044226
this list comprises what's currently available or known to exist

Official
-Universe Hound (since the rumored one more than likely will be inferior)
-The remaining Terrorcons
-Protectobot Blades (if I can find him at a good price, no luck so far)
-Cyber Batallion Shockwave
-POTP Blast Off
-POTP Punch/Counterpunch

3P:
-X-transbots Toro
-TCW's Abominus Upgrade
-PE'S PC-23 dinobot set
-A lot of Nonnef upgrades
-MMC's Calidus (maybe)
-SXS's Nautica (if nothing better is released first)
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Huh, I guess with school being out more kids are actually buying toys. This was completely filled with RID and POTP Wave 1 shit last time I was here.
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>>7044226
Hun-Grrr and Elita-1 are currently in transit, Punch/Coubterpunch, the Wave 3 pretenders, Firestar if she comes out and possibly Inferno, but probably not. Would buy Predaking but apparently he's not releasing in New Zealand and fuck paying shipping on a Titan. Will probably try and find the Platinum G1 Predaking for a reasonable price somewhere.
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>>7044304
>>7044421

Getting Inferno for the same reasons, though I'm gonna turn into an Optimus that's a mix of RID, Cybertron, and Obari.
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>>7044421
Honestly I think CW Hotspot's head can work decently as Pyro
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>>7043551
Also they upscaled it, which is another huge fucking problem
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So I've acquired all the terrorcons except their leader. I'm losing hope on ever finding Hun-Gurrr so what are my options as a good sub? I think the Leokaiser torso could look good but anyone got any pics?
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>>7044817
If you want I could track one down for you here.

In Australia

Otherwise stalk mandarake and import one from japan
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>>7044817
He's in a revision wave after 3. PotP will still be a major brand when Christmas rolls in and all waves are still listed for orders as late as October. He will show up again, give it time. As for a Sub the next best is Grand Scourge but I wager you were wanting something more cost friendly, so yea Leo is about it. Galvatronus and Onslaught are to clean/symmetrical, Motomaster works ok but I believe he has gotten pricey, really that just leaves Starscream and he really looks odd with beastformer arms.
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>>7044842
That's good to hear. Thanks
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>>7044857
>>7044817
I just barely found Hungrrr in store, and I still haven't seen wave 2 deluxes. I finally gave up and preordered everything I'm waiting on from amiami. The terrorcons, Moonracer, and Novastar are all but in my fat little hands.
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>>7044862
The issue is that Hasbro is trying a new formula with PotP where the figures show up a lot more. Rather than having a wave 4, and 5 they just have revision waves. For Leaders it OP and Primal with the other R wave being both Roddies, Voyager it's Hungrrr in both with Grimlock in one and Elita in the other. Wave 4 is a thing and we know it's breakdown, the revision wave is still unknown but listed, same with the legends and master waves, two listed but no details on what the revisions are. I think they are trying to avoid what normally happens where that one case never sees wide release (Wave 2 CW, Wave 5 TR) so they are trying to guess work what waves are going to be well distributed and what waves won't be and release accordingly.
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>>7044525
Mine's been like this for weeks

Those RC Sqweeks have been there ever since October.
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>>7044880
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>>7044877
All well and good, but I haven't seen anything new since January. Hence why I'm now just preordering online. I think their experiment needs work.
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>>7044898
They've acknowledged distribution has been a problem, but they're doing jack shit about it.

Ironically I saw the last three Terrorcons at Wal-Mart the other day, and then discovered I couldn't cancel my online preorders of them, which strangely haven't shipped yet. What are the odds.
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>>7044903
>but they're doing jack shit about it.
What can they do about it? Walmart playhard ball with any distributor that is willing to stock online stores well and Target is shadowing that formula since it's working and they are the one that make the orders so if they ask for 4 cases of wave 1 sit on those for 6 months and then ask for the newest wave (wave 3) Hasbro can't really go "but guies you missed a wave!" they have to nod and get them the shipment ask. It's either trying to keep everyone happy or gamble that online markets will be enough but we have seen with the MotU brand and others that dosn't work out so great, they are ultimately stuck in a rock and a hard place, nevermind that demand for TF is down and unless the BB movie shots new life into the brand we might see a spell much like what GiJoe is going through now. Hell this use to be the distribution woes of the Armada/Energon days where you had to be on your toes ready to spend because that 1 new wave might only show up once and the store might not order for another few months.
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>>7044862
Why would they be out now? Their release date was June to August which really means July - September.
You tfg's are way to impatient for your own good.
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>>7044933
In defense waves come out much slower and in less volume, Gone are the days where whole waves could glut Ross and TJmaxx, now you are lucky if waves even show up in stores, the death of TRU isn't helping things either because that's one less store you can look at.
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>>7044903
A lot of importers are cracking down with that thanks to the spike of abuse in the last year, in theory you can email them and ask for cancellation and might get it.
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>>7044880
Mine was from North CA. They had your Windblades constantly for months and now they're fucking gone.
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>>7044421
saw this one in a thread or two back (cant remember), unless i find two infernos cheap im probably gonna go with brave-fire rodimus prime
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>>7045008
What would the combined mode look like?

Also, anyone got the pic of him mocked up as Smolder?
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>>7045012
Never, actually.
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>>7045012
yeah hun-gurrr's alright
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>>7045012
He's a good boy.
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>>7045013
Basically the same.
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>>7045013
50 hours in paint
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>>7045013
if optimus can become optimus maximus for his combined mode, then surely rodimus can become rodimus maximus. (bigger rodimus head for combined mode) thats my plan at least unless i can come up with something less stupid.
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>>7044226
Honestly just waiting to jump on Punch/Counterpunch. PotP really had me pumping the brakes on my TF collecting. MP line is all but dead to me, now. Waiting to see if Takara does something interesting with Takara Tomy Mall exclusives after those stupid Gold Lagoon repaints that nobody fucking wants. I really like some of the Evergreen designs that came out recently, but I doubt any of them will get toys to do them justice, at least not from Hasbro. I want some 3P to make a bitchin' version of that Wheeljack.
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>>7045028
Excellent.
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>>7045028
Just fucking give me them Hasbro/3rd parties you fucks.
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>>7045048
If Menasor's legs just fucking telescoped like that it would have solved so many issues. Same for Grimlock.
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>>7045048
God that was such a great design, way better than CW Motormaster. Incredibly simple but fun and unique transformation, a solid bot mode and a well proportioned combined mode that doesn't have fists and shit hanging off all over it. Even the silhouette evokes the high shoulder blocks and square shape of G1 Menasor while not looking retarded in the process.
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>>7045079
Dragon knees were always fucking dumb. Makes him look like a manlet on stilts.
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>>7043952
Same. The truck mode is garbage, the plastic is pretty terrible too, but Orion And Prime themselves look amazing.
>>7044862
My Wal-Mart of all places regularly has Hung-gurr and Elita. Odd.

Haven’t seen anything not rippersbapper though
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>>7045092
PCC is just underrated in general. The drones weren't executed super well, specifically the arms, but I just love the general 'thing'. Plus, just a bunch of new, inventive characters is cool too.
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>>7045122
How should generations PCCs work?
Should they be just voyager combiner torsos?
Or should they be Deluxe sized figures, and all the drones released as Titan master-esque vehicles, that can become limbs for the deluxes?

Just being torsos would get the gimmick translated okay, but the titan master limbs version would be more true to the original and would have more universal play style with other figures.

Torso bots would be cheaper probably.
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>>7045144
Deluxe that combines with scout-sized limbs with at least rudimentary bot-modes instead of being straight drones.
Or, if drones are what you want, at least engineer them to be better limbs in their altmodes, throw an elbow or knee in there and we're good.
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>>7045095
>people who like things I don't are assholes
>manlet meme

Hasbro doesn't want right-wing nuts as customers
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>>7045154
i think drones are the best idea.
they can invest all the engineering on making them into decent limbs.

maybe toss in a weapon mode and some titan master compatibility, and we are golden.
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>>7045163
Yeah, I'm cool with them being drones, but it would neat if they had like one other mode. Like 1) vehicle 2) either leg or arm (with elbow) and 3) like an assault mode, so like fold out wings with little sculpted missiles and a drone head or something or like little legs, not a whole bot mode just something extra.
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>>7045170
So long as the limbs have at least one articulation point in the center, letting them function as legs/arms with a knee/elbow, drones would be fine.
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A while ago I think I remember seeing something about a MP Shockwave repaint.

Is that out yet? How can I get my hands on it?
I looked it up and only saw people's custom repaints.
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>>7045176
Honestly I wouldn't mind dedicated limb modes, either leg or arm so they could have better integrated hands. One thing I like about the pcc drones is that the transformations weren't all the same and sometimes automorphed in suprising ways which would be harder if they had to be either limb. Although I would sacrifice that for coolness. Weapon modes or tiny microbot cockpits would be excellent too.
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>>7045180
I get you, and yeah I agree actually, having drones that can be any limb would be harder than just having dedicated limbs to begin with.
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>>7045180
yeah no automorph. we would have to live with, more or less, miniturized combiner limbs. pretty much all of them would have to split in the middle to reveal an elbow. they would also need to fold flat on the bottom to be a foot.
since robot modes arent an issue, you can integrate combiner feet and fists right in.
all the drones would essentially have to be remolds of one another, and share all the same engineering in order to maximize posability (and cost)
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>>7045188
>transformer that switches between vehicle and articulated limb with no self-autonomy
Sounds good to me.
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>>7045198
I'd rather have a robot whose alt mode was just a limb, why the fuck not? We get head masters, give me a goddamn thighmaster.
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>>7045207
Id be cool with both. The torsos come with 4 limb-to-vehicle drones and then there are bot-to-limb scout classes sold separately, maybe with a simplistic vehicle mode or something.
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>>7045207
>thighmaster
kek
Not a bad idea though, bots like Ambulon would be a fun addition, transformers who rely on others to make up their combined altmode rather than being technical triple-changers.
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>>7044440
is like saying every pokemon is pikachu; To be honest, your response is based on insults to someone that doesn't like what you don't like, the movie designs are unique and actually looks like an alien robot, not like a overpowered toaster, Movieverse are part of the transformers and they are way diferent to any other Transformers saga,I'm not defending the movie designs, but acting like a total dick just talks bad about the fandom.
-the likes of particular generations are a right to every fan.
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>>7045222
I don't care for the movies, but I like quite a few of the designs. Especially the earlier ones or just the weirder ones.
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>>7045227
I absolutely hate the films, but they've given us some fun designs and characters.
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>>7045234

Hailstorm a beaut
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>>7045222
>actually looks like an alien robot

So you've seen actual alien robots?

No?

Then your defense is garbage.

Fuck Michael Bay, he does not make good movies, never has, never will. "But it's official", well I don't care, I buy 3P and KO stuff exclusively so official can go fuck itself. The movie fanboys are utter trash that can't shut the fuck up about "G1 suxxorz" because the origin of the brand hurts their feelings and they expect everyone to magically think this shit is an improvement. Not that you have much intelligence if you like a single movie Michael Bay has ever made. Bay is to Holllywood what Trump is to politics. Knowing Bay he probably supports the asshole too, like we need more excuses to wish the guy would get accused of molesting women as many in Hollywood have(implying he hasn't done it, they all have) and lose his career.
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>>7045234
Loved playing that guy in ROTF.
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>>7045272
holy fuck you are mad that you're bringing /pol/ shit into what basically is paramount forcing Bay to do movies he doesn't want to.
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>>7045227
I'm not a huge fan of TC's head. It's too insectoid, even for a Starscream-based head. Starscream's head at least is sorta reminiscent of an old war helmet. Funny how he and Nitro's mold makes for excellent bodies for the TR line.
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>>7045272

Imagine being THIS mad
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>>7045272
>The movie fanboys are utter trash that they can't shut up about G1 suxxors
Funny that I rarely see any Bayfans do that. Every "NOT MUH" insult is usually a general opinion and not a "with me or against me" argument. Hell if you go to any forums for the movie they're more bitter about their own series than constantly shitting up the G1 side. Meanwhile everyone is constantly shitting on the movieverse (for good reason) while you act like the movie fandom is persecuting you to the fullest.
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>>7042822
love how this prime master works as an Upgrade Kit for Trypticon.
ordered another one!
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>>7045272
For someone who claims to hate Micheal Bay, your post reads a lot like one of his movies. A whole lot of noise, but nothing of substance.

So you don't like what are generally recognized as being bad movies, Good for you. There is nothing more you can say that others haven't already said over the past ten years of these cinematic shitshows. Now, unless you're some sort of emotional masochist who gets off on being angry, the best thing you could do is calm the fuck down, move the fuck on, and find something you can actually enjoy to pour your energy into.

Robo-tits, for example. Those are pretty swell.
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>>7045305
I ignored everything you said besides robo-tits, a subject I think we agree upon fully.
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>>7045272
>So you've seen actual alien robots?
so that debunks my argument, oh my god, are you really that stupid.
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>>7045310
Not that anon, but what do you think an alien robot should look like? What makes an alien, alien?

Personally, I'm not sure what that would be, but I doubt it's copypasting insect faces onto every robot, though, just as I doubt it's detail-less box men in bright primary colors.
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>>7045311
I'm perfectly happy with box-men in primary colors.
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>>7045314
Same. Something more aesthetically pleasing to me about a big boxy robot.
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>>7045311
I have an answer for that (I have a plenty of biological knowledge) transformers have the capacity to shape its form, so they may look quite like humans (like crosshairs or hound) or like a total fuckery of steel (like every consctructicon), the word alien itself makes allution to something that is not from here, and life can have many shapes, so, think about a diferent enviroment like cybertron, maybe the chicken legs are needed, maybe multiple eyes are needed, or some exotic kind of appendix that we can't even imagine, there are millions of probabilities, that's why I dig the designs, they are so different to other transformers generations, we can't just think about alien robots being giant toasters, there HAS to be something different, like Transtech almost did
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>>7045314
I prefer something with five sides.
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>>7044862
After completely missing the last two waves of TR I just went ahead and ordered all the wave 3 Terrorcons, the wave 2 Dinobots, and Nova Star off Amiami a couple weeks ago, and today the Terrorcons just showed up at both of my Walmarts... But I only ever saw wave 2 once and it was only Blackwing and Rippersnapper, so I’m glad I got the Dinobots locked down, and I got Moonracer on Amazon for more or less what I’d pay importing.
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When the fuck are we getting a Generations Eject?
They have the mold, just fucking change the colors of the plastic.
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Micromasters are back! http://news.tfw2005.com/2018/07/13/new-transformers-cyberverse-and-generations-war-for-cybertron-toys-listed-on-amazon-367294?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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I've been telling you that MicroMasters are coming back for months now. Almost all of the original molds still exist. Only the Transports are gone. Personally, I think Aaron Archer broke them when he was here so he'd never have to hear about Erector again. LOL

Leaders are mostly later G1 Japanese and European G1.5 characters, reworked as the original leaders forms of Cybertron. Characters are getting spread across all three years of the line. Star Convoy and Super Megatron will be the basis for the designs for WFC Optimus Prime and Megatron. This isn't the video game.

WFC is the final Generations line that is meant to cover the G1 and G2 eras as homages. After this, we're moving on to the next phase of the franchise, which isn't what a lot of you will be expecting. WFC is 2019, 2020 and 2021.
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>>7045503
>Only the Transports are gone
>no Flattop
>no Overload
>mfw
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>>7044933
Considering online stores have wave 2 and 3 instock, and wave 1 was out in December of last year, your entire statement is bullshit.
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>>7044931
>they are the one that make the orders so if they ask for 4 cases of wave 1 sit on those for 6 months and then ask for the newest wave (wave 3) Hasbro can't really go "but guies you missed a wave!" they have to nod and get them the shipment ask.
They are held just as helpless by online places like Amazon, hell even if Hasbro went direct market it's a safe bet that waves would hit issues both with time of year and demand because that's normally what causes distribution issues is what time of the year it is.
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>>7045507
It's not bullshit it was what everything listed wave 3 as release, I wasn't knocking you for wave 2 guys, I was knocking you for wave 3, the just drop wave I get it was your personal issue but you just saw the wave out which tells me you might have more issues either with just waiting or having them or you just can't get to them in store when a truck comes, example: both Walmarts and Targets in my area got wave three on Deluxe and Voyagers two weeks ago but got pick clean of the new wave to be restocked to get clean out again, Bluntly if you weren't there between noon and four you never know they ever had them(and a special thanks to my wife getting wave three Terrorcons the first time because I myself then would have never know they stocked) . Also online stores are never a good bar if your goal is hunt in stores because sometimes stores get glutted with a wave that was online for months.
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Anyone ever order from Toydojo? Do they take cancellations?
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>>7045503
Gr8.fanfiction.net/ugotthere
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>>7045503
>g1 prime silhouette leaks
>star convoy guys, trust me, I'm your hasbro uncle
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>>7045503
>>7045546
Well then Uncle Hasbro what's coming after the WFC years?
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>>7045503
>told us they were coming back
>thinks they're going to use the 30 year old molds for some reason
Retard.
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>>7045514
cancellation via email like most places now, they also have a strike system of either 3 cancellations or canceling over $400 in a month gets you block

>>7045557
Likely nothing,.
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>>7045564
>Likely nothing
Come on, now. Don't get my hopes up.
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I don’t mind the toy accurate colors nor does the lack of dragon knees bother me, but the lack of a real cannon or gun for Combine mode really eats at me. I had to have Grand Scourge loan his gun out since he looks ridculious carrying both the sword and gun.
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>>7045503
Wait, are you implying that instead of new molds Hasbro will just reissue the original G1 figures and call it “new”?

I.....don’t know how I feel about that. On the one hand, that’s incredibly lazy and disingenuous and arguably the same philosophy that caused G2 to tank.

On the other hand, judging by the Titanmasters, any new micros would be smaller and have less paint apps and articulation, so....

Hm.
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>>7045310
>that pic
you have bad taste anon
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>>7045579
Sinnertwin's heads are just supposed to stick up like that? That's terrible.
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>>7045670
Of course not.
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>>7044226
MPM Ironhide
MPM VW Bumblebee
MP Dinobot
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>>7045685
>Did good with Bumblebee
>This happens

TRAVIS
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>>7045685
Bee's design makes these look outdated.
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>>7045685
Red is Shatter (fembot) and Blue is Dropkick.
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>>7045272
Bad Boys is action movie kino
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>>7045693
>>7045698
I'll give them credit for using actual distinct colors other than the usual greys, blacks, and browns like all the previous Movie Decepticons
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They're gonna look weird with the WFCish Starscream as well.
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>>7045689
>>7045694

these look better though
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>>7045670
No. Official is this.
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>>7045725
As the main villains, not really. Dropkick looks too simple and small to have any kind of hope of surviving the film and Shatter looks like TLK Hot Rod with a messier belly-thighs.
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>>7043104
>>7045503
samefag
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>>7045732
They're probably just mooks for Starscream to toss around.
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Preddy DLC.
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>>7045503
YOU haven't been telling us that for months, we've known for months. It's been in the news awhile. Catz from tfw reported it months back.
You also said wfc was a one year thing and generations was ending in 2020
Just stop posting, no one believes you anymore.
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Nice storage in both modes I guess.
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>>7045741
Probably, but Knight kinda hyped the Plymouth months ago.
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>>7045698
> Dropkick

He's back, baybeh
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>>7045780
I wonder if him being blue is a coincidence or a considered decision.
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>>7045766
Damn, it's starting to look good.
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>>7045784

Hasbro's supposed to be more in charge this round, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was deliberate.
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Given that we're getting micromasters and "battlemasters" (which are likely targetmasters and maybe armor related masters) my guess is the three leaders will incorporate masters too.
Which means we've got a pretty good shot at star saber, deathsaurus, but i doubt we'll get a leader class optimus this time around. We've gotten so many recently. For the last one, I'm thinking a star saber retool into thunderwing, or an out of left field choice and go with leader scorponok.
For the 6 voyagers, an optimus and Megatron are a given, and i suspect we'll get snaptrap and apeface, as well as springer and sandstorm to round out the remaining triple changers.
14 deluxes, I'd say pointblank, sureshot, and crosshairs are a given, along with wheeljack, jazz, bumblebee, the mirage v impactor 2 pack, three decepticon tetra jets, not sure about the last 3
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>POTP Blastoff is on the market now where I am

Should I get him? I have the united warrior set, and I like Blastoff a lot.
I don't know if the price is worth it to double dip and have it as its own individual figure at $40 (instead of being part of a combiner at the moment)
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>>7045758
>>7045766
>>7045770
This is perfect, I'm definitely buying this
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>>7045766
I don't get how the sword is combined.
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>>7045758
>>7045766
What's the tail(?) on Razorclaw for? Is it just to fill in the combined torso?
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>>7045758
What's the spine part do? Does it actually reinforce the waist joint or is it just cosmetic?
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>>7045827
Yeah just a filler piece for the waist. It just fills Razorclaw's underside in >>7045770
Probably should've made it a tail.
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>>7045797
I like most of those. Add a leader Victory Leo, voyager Shockwave, and deluxe Joyride and Slapdash.
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>no combiner chest peg
>no partsforming cube head

a-are we finally free from terrible linewide gimmicks?
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>>7045866
Yeah but WFC toys will all be carbots remolded from that P/CP mold
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>>7045866
Sadly, the same can't be said for your easily-triggered autism.
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>>7045919
I hope Headmasters keep happening just to watch that anon sperg out more.
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>>7045919
>I like my toys to be made worse with shitty gimmicks
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>>7045929
I love you man, never change
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>>7043426
>Loki and the 90s team to wipe out degeneracy
based
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Huh. I'm seeing Chinese shops putting up POs for a CW Devastator reissue coming in the next few months.
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>>7045982
It’s likley overstock. CW Dev was overproduced and didn’t sell out for ages. Like Tryp I got him for $50
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>>7045693
Trying to figure out what's going on with the aerial bits (Shatter's wings, Dropkick's cockpit)
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>>7045923
>an entire line where each toy is a combination of multiple headmasters forming a bigger bot
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>>7046019
>headmaster combiners
The ultimate 'parts-forming', how would anon ever recover?
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>>7046021
His butthurt would simply kill him
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>>7045866
>weapon needs to be removed from hand to transform
PAAAAAAAARTSFORMEEEEEEEEEEEEEER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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repugnus is up on amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Titans-Return-Repugnus-Dastard/dp/B0785P78QD
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>>7045866
>>no combiner chest peg
>>no partsforming cube head
is a reason why im not buying them.
I have no use for them and they look like shitty chinese toys with the most overused color when blue mixes with ellow
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>>7046027
Thanks, I fucking knew he'd show up without warning.
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>>7046027
Damn you are paying off anon. In irony I just got Nemesis I’m the mail today thanks to your last heads up.
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Damn, turns out Hungar was also in stock on Amazon, and I missed it since I had a doctors appointment that nearly leaves you blind for a few hours.
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>>7045866
Those pieces on the chest may serve as both a spy gimmick that hides the insignia if you flip it down, and a port for the new hand parts.
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>>7045866
I just realized he has a fake rooftop
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>>7046053
which conveniently lines up with the real windshield
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>>7046053
Funny enough it's in the right spot and angle for the Pointblank remold.
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Seems Blast-Off was very briefly available yesterday.
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>>7045698
The cherry-red Plymouth Satellite is a female named Shatter and is voiced by Angela Bassett. The blue AMC Javelin is named Dropkick and will be voiced by Justin Theroux.

>"When the cast is too big, and you have a finite amount of time, there’s only so much you can do to create an investment in them,” Travis Knight says. “This is a more personal, intimate, and character-driven story, so it felt right to keep the villain plot relatively simple and contained. If you keep things lean, you can add a lot of other stuff on top of it that makes it more enjoyable.”
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>>7045993
there's also a tiny landing gear in Shatter's belly
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>>7046117
Maybe they're Duocons?
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>>7045693
Can someone edit out the exclusive first look? I think thei'd make a good wall paper.
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>>7046121
That'd be what I'm thinking. Car alt modes but combined heli mode.
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>>7046027
> Temporary out of stock

Did he sell that fast or just has not officially gone live for sale yet?
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>>7046027
>https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Titans-Return-Repugnus-Dastard/dp/B0785P78QD

>>$25
>>for a cheapest-era deluxe with an unpainted head
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>>7045693
Looks like that ninja assassin from g1
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>>7046153
He's never been in stock, only Blast-Off for fucking seconds before his listing was taken off.
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>>7046151
Has that ever been done before? That's a kind of cool concept.
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Oh man, imagine studio series leader 2 pack with duocons.
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>>7046161
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>>7046161
In a marvel line with an Iron Man and Spiderman set. I can't think of any set of transformers with individual vehicle/robot mode and a combined vehicle mode.

Micromaster combiners are close, but that's about it.
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>>7046155
It’s a sad turn around considering how dope Grotesque was.
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>>7046172
They didn't have their own unique alt modes though, they were just halves of a truck.
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>>7046174
Animated Safeguard had that combined jet mode, sorta. G2 Dreadwing/Smokejumper too.
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Here are your shitty WFC transformers!
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Yeah, the Dreadwing and Smoke Jumper are a better comparison, I was thinking of Animated Safeguard but that's not really a combination.
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>>7046181
Still a duocon
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>>7046201
Not what I was asking. Obviously duocons fucking exist you mong.
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Gods bless John Warden!
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>>$30
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>>7046204
>>7046205
>>7046186
I'll get Sideswipe since I don't have one and it doesn't have the monster face from the MP, but Optimus is awful.

And what the hell is this? These aren't cybertronian vehicles.
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>>7046204
Bruh, look at the top of his cab
No no no, etc.
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>>7046186
This is actually the most decent looking carformer I've seen Hasbro release recently

>>7046204
>>7046205
Literally a poor man's Striker Manus
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>>7046210
looks like a removable jetpack anon calm down
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>>7046186
>>7046204
>>7046205
I- hmm... I don't hate it. Sideswipe tentatively looks like an improvement to the Gen mold and OP honestly looks kind of neat. I dig the "somewhere between cybertronian and earth vehicle" look, sort of like Striker Manus.
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>>7046205
Is that pre-scratched paint?
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>>7046205
That bot mode and axe are pretty badass. I wish the truck mode were something different though.
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>>7046218
He seems to have some bizarre "worn out" look to his arms and shoulders, for some reason.
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>>7046219
At the very least, I can replace Floptimus as the leader of my bot crew, having never gotten the Classics or CW ones.
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>>7046218
Don't worry, the actual toy won't have paint.
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>>7046216
It's pinned.
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NEW THREAD >>7046225
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>>7046205
What is the fucking purpose of the thing on his back/roof? All it does is ruin both modes.
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>>7045503
You ever notice that every so often when someone posts fan fiction they sometimes get a reply that always uses this >>7045505 image
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>>7046123
I did my best.
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>>7046186
It's a nice sideswipe. I will get it along with prime.
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>>7045513
I'm talking about wave 2. Wave 2 has still not dropped where I live, and shelves have been bare for a while. That's why I'm ordering online now and skipping Wal-Mart and Toys R Us's bullshit altogether. TrU is still open in Canada, but they jacked the prices up to match the movie lines. Wal-Mart undercuts them, but doesn't stock anything past wave 1 in the first place.
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Does liking transformers give me autism?
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>>7051068
Having autism gets you liking Transformers.
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Does liking transformers give me autism?
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>>7046086
>red
>not yellow
>Angela Bassett
>not Catherine Bach
I think an opportunity was missed here, but any sort of Hot Rod Patrol Transformers are appreciated.
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>>7045866
They could have used a CW torso, just replace the combining peg with a head.
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>>7046037
from the thumbnail it looked like it sat in a puddle of water
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>>7046151
>"Its going to turn into a blue on red Bell 222!"-Bay
>"Dude, we are going to get sued, quit it!"-staff




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