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What's everyone's least favorite nationality to come across while traveling?

For me it's the Chinese and Americans. The Chinese constantly rampage through little villages in massive tour groups, climb over everything, touch every piece of artwork, and spit everywhere.

And Americans I don't like running into because I'm American and also we complain a lot.
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Is this the designated Straya hate thread?
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>>1225745
>Chinese
They also tend to shit in odd places.

Canadians can be insufferable as well.
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This thread is going to be nothing but posts about mainland Chinese.

My take on the worst? Mainland Chinese.
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Spanish or American.
Way too fucking loud and big. Like obstructing sidewalks, and when you try to politely ask them to let you through, they don't even notice you, cause they are just occupied with each other. I move to try and avoid them, and they step the same direction.
What's hilarious is that they don't even need to be in big groups for this, just a couple can obstruct everyone else.
I was gonna say I have some American and Spanish traveler friends, and they are great and nice people, but I don't have Spanish friends. Americans I do know first hand they can be great.
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>>1225762
Interesting you mentioned that. I was just in London, and there were lots of Spanish doing exactly that. Groups of Spanish just standing there blocking everyone's way.
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Israeli backpackers and to a lesser extent french groups, i loathe the israeli backpackers especially in south america and southeast asia, the ones in india too can be annoying but they're usually stoned on charras so they don't bother anyone else.

In south america they call them piranhas because when they're alone they're harmless, but when in a group and smell blood all hell breaks loose and they come after you.
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>>1225745
Chinese for sure

>large tour buses blocking up side streets to get to the secret duty free stores
>stocking up for the apocalypse with the food they steal at the buffet
>louder than a metallica concert when a group of them are at a bar or resturant

I would continue, but I live in Australia and it's not as bad as Hong Kong or Japan
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>>1225745
China is the future leader of this world. Get used to letting your shithole country being treated like a cheap whore filthy laowai.
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>>1225773
>>>r/asianmasculinity
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>>1225764
It's years of 'research' in capital cities of the world. lol

I did interact with some of the thousands I had to pass by. The ones I look down on the most are the group of old Spanish women who asked for the nearest Roman Catholic churches, and all I got in response was them pulling faces and going the opposite way. And then the Spanish girl who asked me to take a photo of her, and then kept on asking for a re-take at least 5 times, and kept on asking for more while I was telling her to ask someone else, cause my skills were too lacking for her.

I mean I get asked for directions every single day no matter where I am, somehow everyone else responds nicely, even if they don't like my advice...

In comparison, when some mainland Chinese didn't like my advice on how to get to some shopping mall for whatever reason, they, you know, still said a half-hearted thanks, and then went the other way. Spanish just look like I insulted them for responding to their own question.
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Chinkies can be nice people, but the worst part about seeing them trampling through villages gawking at everything is that I consider their country to be the #1 factor in destroying the culture, nature, and heritage of the earth.
It's not their fault if they can't stop multiplying, but fuck 'em anyway.
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>>1225745
Its pretty hard to imagine any scenario where you'd have a positive interaction with mainland Chinese tour groups. It doesn't matter what country you're in, whether you're in a sacred temple or natural wonder; their behaviour always seems to be horrid.

They really are a uncivilised and sad peoples, with no manners or care for other people. Not to mention no hygiene, unable to use toilets, spit everywhere, etc..

In regards to other races, you can have good and bad experiences with all. But it's only the Chinese which are almost exclusively bad, Americans don't come close.

Anyone who disagrees probably hasn't had much experience or is Chinese and on damage control.
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Brits used to be. They can't have nice things and ruin everything.
But after everything I read about Chinks, I'm not sure.
French with their Gallic arrogance is really up there too.
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>>1225745
Chinese people in tour groups have been rudest so far.
Last time at Suvarnabhumi when I was taking a quiet shit there was loud banging and rattling on the door.
When I finished and opened the door this elderly chinese guy stood there glaring at me, someones grandfather probably.
When I left the stall he barged in there and did his thing without closing the door.
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>>1225801
Everyone thinks mainland Chinese are the worst. I'm in Thailand now and I can tell you the locals hate Chinese tourists for their complete lack of manners and literally shitting everywhere.
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>>1225811
I saw a group of chinese tourists today (with flag-dude in front and everything) at the helsinki rail-station, but they seemed quite orderly.
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>>1225811
It's cause the Russians haven't made their way to that part of Thailand yet.
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If you vacation in central Florida the Brazilian tour groups can be annoying
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>>1225821
You're Russian, aren't you?
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Mainland Chinese

I'm a Chinese
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>>1225745
Swedish party-youth aged 18-25 can be extremely obnoxious.
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>>1225811
They dislike Indian tourists as well, though I find in many cases rhey are talking about Arab or Persian tourists and can't tell them apart. This is in Chiang Mai.
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>>1225745

I've only taken one hitchhiking trip across Europe, so I haven't had many encounters with the Chinese. If you're in India or Nicaragua or Colombia, the chances of hearing Mandarin spoken on the streets are very small.

Having said that, I don't think there's any group I specifically despise. I've had decent interactions with just about everyone.

However, my gut does drop a bit whenever I'm staying in a hostel dorm and hear French, Hebrew, or Arabic - I've found Frenchmen, Israelis, and Arabs specifically to be the rudest dorm-mates. They make and take phone calls early in the morning, socialize with each other in the middle of the night, and have no qualms about making full-volume conversation no matter the time.
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>>1225842

Made this post as well: >>1225844.

I lived in India for a couple of years.

My experience with Indian tourists in India and outside has been extremely mixed. If you get an Indian traveling alone or with one other friend, then they're usually fine. Solo travel is so odd for the local peoples of South Asia that the folks who do give it a try tend to be pretty chilled out and mellow.

The problem is whenever you have a big group of Indians traveling either on a tour or for some event. They're fucking terrible and develop a sort of attitude like they own the hostel/hotel/inn, simply because there are so many of them. Absolutely no regard for the cleanliness of bathrooms, talking volume, etc.

Actually, I should have added Indians to my last list. I love India, but I wanted to vomit every time an Indian stayed in my dorm in Delhi - not because I can't stand brown people, but because Indian guys were chronically rude. I remember two guys in town for a meeting were blabbering away at 5am right next to my bed. When I told them to shut the fuck up, they said, "but bro, this is time people must be getting up to go to the office."
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>>1225821
Not sure if this is strictly true but are russian speakers from the smaller former soviet states (kazaks, belarusians, ukrainians...) nicer than the typical russian?
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Chinese aren't that big of a deal to me. They come around a tourist site, they take their selfies, they move on. It's annoying while they're there but they'll never be in your hostel, your bar, etc causing issues where it matters.

I don't like the packs of traveling Americans, especially the women. The fake niceness kills me. And anyone out of college will be super high strung from being overworked in their jobs.

But solo traveling Americans can be the best people IMO. Traveling solo isn't really normal in the US so they tend to be pretty interesting people.
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>>1225745
Low class Brits
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>>1225862
This. Chavs are physically repulsive to me.
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>>1225811
Do Chinese people seriously shit in weird places? Or are they just generally unhygienic?
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I think most people change their attitudes when they're a part of a large in-group.

Being on a plane full of Italians was annoying af. I was flying between Moscow and Copenhagen, so it was a bit of an unexpected surprise
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>>1225873
People say this but I've never actually seen it outside of China. I think it's a meme. OP btw so not some butt hurt anon doing damage control.
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>>1225880
https://www.allsingaporestuff.com/article/prc-woman-diarrhea-public-near-holland-village-mrt
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>>1225842
Indians are disliked so much that many Thai hookers will refuse to go with an Indian.
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Americans, sorry to say.
Always obnoxious and usually arrogant to boot.
Why do they have such a hard time talking at normal volumes? Why do they think it's ok to talk over other people?
I'm sure there are americans who don't do the above, but i've not met them.
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>>1225887
Holy shit, that writing. All I know about Singapore is that English is an official language there, but if people talk how they write, then I have no hope for that place.
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>>1226076
Maybe officially, I've never met someone from there that couldn't speak English, but I've also never met anyone from there that had English as their first language
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>>1226076
They speak english in a weird dialect imo, sometimes you can overhear a singlish (singaporean english as they call it) conversation and not understand a single goddamn thing
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Americans.

Always americans.

Why do you all shout? I swear you've all got hearing damage, because your idea of a normal speaking volume is obnoxious bellowing.
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>>1226048
You are neglecting culture, and nkt realizing tjst is normal volume for Americans. Ans as far as tsllong over each other jave younot seen an American talk show, news show, or listened to a podcast?
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>>1226086
I saw something thst theorized it was the wide open spaces, wider personal space of America, coupled with American extroversion and individualism that created the volume.
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>French
Even young people refuse to speak english and if they do have such a strong accent that you cant understand them. Loud as fuck, uninteresting people

>Brits
Lower class people in tracksuits singing way too loud. Other brits can be great though.

>Spanish
French people but more smoking and faster talking
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>>1225849
I wouldn't even compare the two... Way nicer.

>>1226090
Cultural relativism is nice, but no, I will not submit to the shouters.
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>>1226048
Also:
>Where are you from?
>I'm from Asheville- North Carolina

why can't you just tell me the country??

besides that they're fine
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>>1226091
it's definitely egocentrism and individualism.
It's a byproduct of unfettered capitalism.
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>>1226095
If there is someone in the hostel who does shit like turn on the lights at 4am and talk and pack loudly, make skype calls in the middle of the night, and so on... it's always the French. It's like it's part of their culture to be inconsiderate. And I say this as someone who speaks fluent French.
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>>1225770
but what do they do?
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>>1225785
>#1 factor in destroying the culture, nature, and heritage of the earth.
nah, that was christianity
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Chinese are the new American tourists. As Americans are becoming self aware, Chinese are gaining the wealth to travel. The same thing'll happen with the Russians in twenty years time.
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this is shit

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/peoplesdaily/article-3200696/Shocking-moment-Chinese-passenger-encourages-child-defecate-kitchen-rear-plane-toilets-small.html

http://shanghaiist.com/2014/07/26/family-allows-child-to-defecate-on-plane-aisle.php

http://blog.sfgate.com/sfmoms/2014/07/28/child-poops-on-airplane-seat/

http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-troubles/79689778/Woman-lets-child-urinate-on-airplane-floor-on-flight-to-Beijing

http://chinatravelgo.com/chinese-the-worlds-worst-airplane-passengers/
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I have no idea why you have issues with other Americans.

Maybe you're the problem, not them.

Are you specifically trying to argue about politics or some other retarded shit?
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>>1226129
They probably are. Euros can be incredibly argumentative over politics, but mostly it's just beliefs they call facts. I suppose it's the same for every nation but many Europeans seem to be on a mission.

If I could blindly choose a nationality sitting next to me on a long flight, I'd go for an American. In my experience they've all been incredibly nice people. Polite and social, always upbeat. They seem to somewhat heal my Finnish existential angst.

Brits and French are the worst. I just can't appreciate violent banter when it happens in the real world, or insults intended as continental humour.
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>>1225745
Brazilians.
t. Brazilian who always evades when I hear thek
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>>1226156
Outside Orlando I wouldn't say we're that annoying.

Fuck the tour groups at Disney though.
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>>1226104
BS. As an American I can vouch for the fact that if you respond with just the USA, people ALWAYS follow on with where in the USA, hoping you eill say one of the three places they know.
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>>1226138
This. Speaking of cultural relativism, most a lot of Americans think the British and French are rude when that is just how they talk. But that still doesn't make it any better
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>>1226156
>>1226157
>>1225822
People meme Americans shouting USA, but Brazilians in central Florida will break out in random chants of "Braaazzzziiiillll, Braaaazzzziiillll"
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>American women when they try to explain how much of a "real traveler" they are
>French travelers who never bothered to learn english
>Brittish girls with "wanderlust" tattoos (found in SE-asia, Australia)
>Any cunt who is not humble
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>>1225745
chinks takes pictures of everything, it's funny because they're the most shallow people, they don't really care what they see, the sole purpose of their trips is so that the people back home knows that they've been there, they travel around in their chinese groups and never speak with the locals or foreigners around the area

british chavs and any troglodytes for that matter, their main hobby is social media while they possess the intelligence of a malnourished sub-saharan african, similarly to chinks they take pictures of absolutely everything except they don't even have a fake interest for the nation or city in which they're in, they're just there in an attempt to fuck drunk teenagers

economic tourists aka refugees, self explanatory

oil state """nations""" from the near east, they're basicly rich chinks, no culture or manners whatsoever with an added bonus of being arrogant because their inbred hunter-gatherer parents struck liquid gold
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Chinese and indians by far.

I was in switzerland they roamed in packs of 100.
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American here.

My official hatred power rankings:
1. Ontarians
2. New Yorkers

POWER GAP

9001. Californians
9002. Londoners

Never had any really bad experiences with specific nationalities
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>>1226164
Yhea, thats fucking annoying. Fuck brazilians, they are the worst.
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>>1226710
Korean take pics of everything too.

But it was nice for me. My ex would look up restaurants and cafes that looked neat on instagram and we'd go visit. Made it easier to come up with date ideas.
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>>1225745
Australians are always cool. I don't know if people are just jealous of their chadness or something.

Chinese are just non-entities. The few times I've bumped into them in hostels they've always kept to themselves, absolutely refusing to mingle with the other nationalities. Maybe it's a language or culture thing.

Germans and Swedes are always weird and boring. I've never had a good night out with a German or a Swede. In fact, I've only drunk a few times because they're always introverted as fuck.
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>>1226115
>If there is someone in the hostel who does shit like turn on the lights at 4am and talk and pack loudly, make skype calls in the middle of the night, and so on... it's always the French. It's like it's part of their culture to be inconsiderate. And I say this as someone who speaks fluent French.

I've lived in France for three years. I can confirm. Not only here, but abroad, It's always the fucking French doing anti-social shit in hostels. Every fucking time.

Here are the official hostel power rankings best to worst edition.

BEST
South Americans. Always polite as fuck and happy. Spent a ton of money to get here and usually aren't lower class so they are friendly. Only good experiences.
Quebecois. Wtf. Always nice and up for a drink.
Dutch.
Upper class Brits.
Young Americans travelling on their own. Hot slutty girls who love to talk to new boys.
Australians (haters can fuck off. Aussies are bros and they're always up for a good time)
Italians (when they can speak English)
Spanish (when they can speak English).
Anyone over 30. Older guys (I never meet older women who want to socialise) are always cool and interesting.
Slavs. Rare but always really fucking fun and weird (from a western perpective)

NEUTRAL
Americans and Canadians. I have no complaints here.
Germans and Scandis

LITERALLY WHO TIER
All asians. They never talk and always stay on their own with their small group of friends.

OBNOXIOUS TWATS
French. Sorry. I'm half French and I can say this.Stay in your own country.
Large groups of British 'LADS' Stay the fuck away. I'm half English and I can stay this. Stay in your own fucking country and stop ruining Bratislava and Vilnius.

Everyone else is cool.
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no. sorry, fuck australians. may be good for partying but in my experience they are culturally insensitive and complete dicks to the people in the country they are visiting.
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>>1226836
>culturally insensitive
sounds like someone can't handle the bants because they're too busy handling cock
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>>1226790
I'm sorry about your experience with swedes, most swedes are very introverted and cold at first but with a bit of alcohol people open up
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>>1226118
>Not islam
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>>1226891
no, not islam.
islam is just beginning and haven't achieve as much yet
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>>1226881
and Swedes always remember to act as if their shit don't stink
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>>1225745
Try this: don't be such a prissy dick.

You're not the only one traveling, deal with it and move on.
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>>1226795
The French thing is purely cultural, not racial. I don't know what it is about their culture that turns them into such twats while traveling. I've seen white French, Arab French, black French, all behaving in the same exact way.
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>>1225745
Aussie here, can I stay? Or should I leave the thread so that you guys can bitch in peace?


But srrs, fuck Chinese tourists. Absolute worst. They have absolutely no regard for their actions; always after looks. I've seen them doing really cringeworthy stuff to get a cool photo, or to look "cute". A couple had a little kitten in this autistic mesh carrier, kinda like a tube with a mesh covering. The kitten was clearly uncomfortable because the tube was too small. It kept pressing it's face against the mesh to breathe...and the couple was taking turns pressing their face against the mesh back. Taking photos of it too, no doubt with some 2edgy caption. I almost hit the fucker when the guy started doing it too, since the kitten started meowing in discomfort. Luckily I didn't have to because a few white girl hippies and their massively jacked bf started laying into them.


Special mention to Korean girls for managing to turn every fucking thing into a princess off. If you're gonna be an annoying princess, please don't sign up to fucking absailing or something else. It's not the right place for you to be a pampered little child.
Holy shit I needed to rage. Fuck people doing stuff to maintain an image that they think is right.
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>>1226160
Maddeningly true. I'm from Ohio. I usually just say USA when people ask, and then they put on this indignant "you think I'm geographically ignorant, don't you" face. They ask me to specify, then I say "Ohio," and then they smile and nod. And then I ask them if they know where that is and then they inevitably say no and feign curiosity, binding me into this insufferable situation where I'm explaining the location of my humble, midwestern state using New York, California, and Miami as the only available points of reference.
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>>1226725
Why do you say Ontarians? Oddly enough, I only just three weeks ago met the first Canadian abroad that I did not like. He was from Toronto, though, which may have blessed him with the standard metropolitan conceit that transcends nationality.
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I study neuroscience and I consider myself pretty sensitive to how predisposed the human brain is to make generalizations and to defend its own preconceptions to the point of blatant irrationality.

For precisely this reason, I am astounded by how consistently young, male Australians abroad fit the same mold. I've deliberately looked for personality differences with only rare, marginal successes.

>brash partier
>eager to offer a grindingly thorough report on his 14-month travel itinerary
>either casually trying to be (best case) or doggedly insistent on being (worst case) the life of the party
>friendly and upbeat, which is nice in most traveling contexts, but gregarious and social-butterfly-like to the point where you get the impression that it would take six years of regular contact and a shared tragedy or two to pin him down and establish any type of profound, human connection
>glib and lighthearted about everything, all the time (which, bear in mind, isn't necessarily a problem, as I'm not sipping my beer at the hostel looking for a panel discussion on human rights abuses in Saudi Arabia, but for Christ's sake, there occasionally comes a time in conversation--even with a stranger--when it becomes time to drop the whole party-boy guise, or at least tone it down if it's not a guise)

This might come across as if I have a personal vendetta against Australians, which I don't. This isn't even really a "least favorite" point, because they're mostly fun to hang out with for a night or two. I'm just blown away by the resilience of this stereotype.
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>>1227265
I feel ya bro, I'm from Baton Rouge and I have only found one person in years of travel in Europe who knew what that was. He worked in Gainesville and heard about LSU and all that so he knew Baton Rouge.

Everyone else I tell them New Orleans, which only half of them know what the fuck that is.

Europeans are such pricks when they just assume that Americans know nothing about geography. Which is partially true, but they can't name more than 5 states.
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>>1225845
I'm Indian and I completely agree with you.
People from places with high population density (India, China, Korea) tend to travel in groups, and tend to care about other people less, simply because people are less valued in their cultures.

Also travel groups should be fucking banned. People that travel in groups do not care to learn the language (everyone should know a few phrases at the VERY least), don't eat the local food, and as you said think they own the place.

I've also noticed that they're less interested in the place they're visiting, than just superficially seeing things, taking a thousand pictures, bringing back stuff and bragging about visiting a foreign country back home. They don't care about museums, they don't care about art, they don't care about history or nature.

Seeing tour groups reminds me of sheep.
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>>1225749
>>1225772
>>1225785
>>1225787
>>1225801
>>1225811

oh this is nothing.
Only 7% of Chinese citizens have passports.
Prepare for many more.
I especially pity Parisians.
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>>1225745
1. Israelis

The absolute cancer of the backpacking world, they are arrogant, aggressive and just complete trash in general.

2. Asians

Every Asian male I've encountered in my hostel dorm so far did some weird shit. Either it's snoring as loud as a tractor, farting like there's no tomorrow. Generally they also don't talk shit and tend to lie in bed all day long.

3. Female US-Americans

They just sound so stupid once they open their mouths. God they are an annoying bunch.
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>>1227307
I wonder if in the completely globalized future with cheap airlines that get you from Europe to the US for $200 round trip countries will enact more travel restrictions, like you have to apply for visa and go with a guide, only X amount of tourists are allowed in a city and country at a time and so on. We see this today already on a small scale if you look at stuff like Machu Picchu.
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>>1227307
>>1227318

It won't affect much. Chinese almost exclusively go to places where they can get something out of posting a selfie on social media. So anywhere that's not a well-known tourist hotspot, recognizable from photos, is not interesting to them.
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>>1225819
Usually it goes like this.

>see group of Chinese tourists
>they actually behave well, don't spit, aren't loud, are polite
>chat them up
>Where are you from?
>Taiwan

If you see a group of Chinese who are well behaved, chances are they are from Hong Kong or Taiwan.
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I'd say Chinese tourists for sure, but also Russians. Chinese tourists think they are so far above the rules. So many times I've seen them snapping away photos in the 'no photo' zones. They can't even pretend they can't read English.. they put a crossed out picture of cameras probably JUST for the Chinese.

Russians are also assholes. Probably because i'm American. I think it's in our blood to hate each other. Was eating at a cafe in Athens one time, it's breakfast time. We order (the waiter is Russian) and I ask for a glass of milk and orange juice. This man was so fucking insulted that I ordered milk. It truly triggered this little Russian man. He went "Are you American? I HATE Americans." Which is A+ treating of customers. Then goes "You want milk? What are you a baby? Waaah baby wants milk!"

He left to put in the order, and when it came out a different waiter came out. We asked where the Russian guy was and were informed he didn't want to serve us.

We were polite the entire time, but that man lost it over some milk.....

There are a few more times of Russians just being jack asses but again, Chinese top it all. No one can be as shitty as Chinese tourists.
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>>1227334
It's the democracy.
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>>1227269
Ontario houses the most obnoxious college liberals.

Imagine your typical tumblr-browsing, oversized glasses-wearing, hair-dying in unnatural colors, Trump-hating, man-cucking, women's studies major, black lives mattering, NDP-voting social justice warrior. Ontario has the most of those.
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>>1227337
>they put a crossed out picture of cameras
People can be pedantic smartasses.

To some people, that sign could literally mean "No cameras." That's fine, because they think that they can still snap photos with their smartphone.

I've literally been on a bus where the driver and a would-be passenger argued over the "No Food & Drink" sign. The driver told him that he can't bring his food into the bus, and the fuckface who started the argument insisted that it's not a "No Food & Drink" sign, it's actually a "No Hamburgers & Milkshakes" sign. This was an English-speaking local white person in his 30s.
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>>1227307
I live in Paris. As long as you don't live in the 5% of the city that the tourists love it's fine.

Most people can't afford to live in the areas where chinese visit anyway.
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>>1227394
>black lives mattering
kek

Any idea why would you have more of them than the rest?
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>>1227403
I can only surmise that it's a local culture thing?

I mean, look at America. California and New York have the same problem. But I can bet states like Arizona or Tennessee aren't like that.
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>>1225787
the chinese tour group at zion national park was pretty much segregated from everyone else lol.

once we were free to walk around after getting off the bus never saw them again
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>>1227394
have you ever seen niggers traveling? me only once in over 5 years of extensive backpacking.
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>>1225745

anybody that isn't me
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>>1225762

American here, and I even I think Spainards are arrogant.

Why are they so arrogant /trv/?
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Only place I really traveled by myself to was japan, and there were chinese tourists everywhere. They weren't super disrespectful but they were worse than any other nationality that I met.
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>>1227412
He is talking about BLM white people. Also, black people that can afford to travel can afford not to stay in hostels and trend toward luxury and resort travel.
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>>1227549
so is there no black middle class?
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>>1227573
Hardly.

Black Americans are either resigned to their fate of being ghetto slum-bums, or they achieve some monstrous asspull success. A middle ground rarely exists.
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>>1227573
I think that blacks who travel have different ideas in what they want out of their trip. Hostel living and RealTraveler™ stuff is very much a predominantly white thing.
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>>1227756
seems legit, but then again - traveling means going places. Wouldn't we just meet them randomly here and there, even without sharing hostels?I'm a hitchhiker but I meet bikers, rich hostel euro kids and even hotel-dwellers often on my ways
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>>1225745
Chinese by far are the worst.

Not a nationality, but the physical embodiment of the RealTraveler meme is pretty fucking miserable to be around too. IE unwashed western hippies. Usually white with dreadlocks and wearing a headband with those loose fitting pants.
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>>1227306
>India
>China
>Korea

One of these things is not like the other...
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>>1227318
You can fly from America to Europe for less than 300 now.
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>>1227324
I dont think this is entirely true. I just returned from Sri Lanka and Northern Mariana Islands and both places were swamped with them. They are both fairly pituresque but dont really fit the criteria you mentioned.
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>>1225871
OI! INNIT? INNIT? YOU GOT A LIGHT? OI! INNIT? YOU KNOW WHEN THE BUS COMES?

Fucking Chavs
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>>1226891
Without the efforts of medieval Islam you would be shitposting by fingerpainting on a piece of cardboard and grunting on the local plaza how you wish you could read. Get fucked.
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>>1227870
Which one? They're all in Asia, collectivist societies, and have dense populations.
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>>1227779
Unless you travel to tropical places and stay at 5 stars and do tourist shit, nah. In Thailand I saw very few to no other black people in Bangkok, no black people in Phuket, a few in Chiang Mai, none in Udon Thani and the villages in Sakhon Nakhon, none in Singapore, one (with a non-Thai Asian girl) in Kohn Kaen. Quite a few in Pattaya.

Caribbean cruises I have seen literally a boat load. I am black, btw. In short, outside of beach destinations, I rarely srr other blackas when I travel. I was surprised by the number I saw in Chiang Mai
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>>1227878
Oioi! Aweigh then, ya startin' mate? U wan sum? il giv ya sum, I'll spark ya'out cold!". Ooee, ya fokin twat.
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>>1225773
>China is the future leader of this world.

They have zero power projection outside of Asia and their equipment is shit tier, even the fucking Russians have better gear.

People only think they're powerful because they have money and they're a strong REGIONAL power. If they tried anything outside of Asia they'd get curbstomped so hard it would make the Opium Wars look like a picnic with friends.
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>>1227911
>t. Jean-Pierre Chalons
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>>1226881
I find Germans are the same too. I 100% agree that they're introverted as fuck but if you spend a bit of time with them instead of just awkward small talk or something then they tend to open up.

Had lots of fun drinking with Germans and wandering around with them in the middle of the night trying to find good bars and clubs.
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>>1227398
>asked an older security dude near a subway train if I can eat food on public transportation
>'only if you give me a bite'
Made me laugh
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Chinese definitely, all the reasons have already been said.

Scandis are alright but they're very antisocial so it's like squeezing blood from a stone to have a good time with most of them.

Lower class Brits/LADSSSSS are fucking terrible but I feel like they're some of the most easily avoided. You just know where they're going to be staying and where they are going to be drinking so you kind of expect that if you get some really cheap hostel near a bunch of bars and shit. I feel like a lot of people complaining about groups of lads don't realise this, it's like kicking a wasp nest and wondering why you got stung.

Same goes for Australians. If you're going to cheap bars and staying in low budget accommodation then you're going to deal with the low budget tourists.

Absolutely not excusing their shit behavior, it's just that unlike the Chinese you can predict where Brits/Aussies will be, Chinese are annoying everywhere.
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>>1227871
How? Booking flights a year in advance with at least 3 transfers back and forth, right?
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>>1227925
>Lower class
oi! wot the fok did ye just say 2 me m8? ya callin me lower class, innit? ya fookin bellend. yer a waste bruv. ill beat ya to a fokin proper fokin pulp with me fists ya fokin tosser.
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>>1225790
With Brits it depends where they're going, the shit 1's go to Spain and Greece etc but they seem to have a good reputation in east Asia from what I read.
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>>1227934
Not South East Asia
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>>1227024
To be fair the only decent Arabs are Lebanese and Palestinian, I'm even part Israeli and they've never been anything other than polite to me.
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>>1227934
Places like Japan, China and Hong Kong etc. are ok for Brits but Thailand attracts a lot of groups of LAAAAAADS! for obvious reasons.

That being said though, some of the best bars and places where I stayed in Thailand have been owned by British expats and the owners are great.
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>>1227943
I feel like LAD culture isn't exclusive to Britain, I've met loads of people from around Europe that exude the same kind of personality. The British lads just get more visibility because they're televised I guess.
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>>1226725
Gotta hear this. Why do you hate New Yorkers.

I'm asking cause I'm a native
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>>1226790

Germans I think have their moments when they really liven up.

On Swedes I agree. Holy shit I have never met a more self conscious society in the world. If any nation needs to loosen up a little it's Swedes.

Story: My brother's wife is Swedish. I took a short trip with them through Sweden land. We are in a small town during the day and their is hardly any car traffic, like almost 0 cars on the road. My brother's Swede wife wants to cross the street. There is not a car for miles. She goes to the crosswalk, and hits the button. Waits for it to give her the signal, then she crosses staying within the crosswalk lane.

Jesus Swedes, please go back to your Viking culture or raping and drinking.
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>>1226790

I fucking love Aussies. So great. Not many fucks given.
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>>1226790
Fucked a German girl who was a massive alcoholic

I can't remember her name but i kept calling her Gunther
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>>1225745
Americans are the worst. They either sound gay as fuck and too worried about offending or macho in a really insecure way. The couple of black guys from America I've met were cool tho so maybe it's just the rich white ones?

For best, i seem to gravitate towards Aussies/Kiwis because I'm British and we're practically the same people. Met some great Dutch, Mexicans and Germans tho. Also one fascinating and inexplicable Persian dude/Turkish hermaphrodite couple who were awesome.
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never ran into the french problem that a bunch of you guys are describing. yeah they usually speak poor english but never seen any of this bizarre behavior.
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>>1228032
>or macho in a really insecure way
That's probably the one I fit the most out of those because I lift but I'm not sure. What are examples?
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>>1226790
I am Australian and I hate Australians. Probably because I'm not a chad.
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>>1227277
I am in Montevideo right now. Come say hi. I dont like to party.
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>>1227403
It's because

TORONTO
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>>1227870
You're right, Korea doesn't have its own culture.
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So why are mainland Chinese such cunts? Are they aware they are absolutely despised by most of the planet?
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>>1228130
There is apparently a difference between the urban educated Chinese and the countryside hicks. In Beijing, the locals also lament how shitty the country bumpkins are. Of course, in the west we can't tell the difference between an urban educated Chinese and a country bumpkin.
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>>1228138
If they are country bumpkins, how do they travel?
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>>1228142
Most people can't afford to travel because of family commitments.

When you can't get married because there aren't enough women, or you're only allowed to have one child, it becomes much easier to save up for traveling.
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In general, Mainland Chinese.
However, in Spain and the Netherlands, the English (old whiny farts in the former, drunk and stoned chavs in the latter.)
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From Europe, Brits seem to take the crown.

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/shortcuts/2017/jan/17/from-barcelona-to-malia-how-brits-on-holiday-have-made-themselves-unwelcome
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I don't want to sound like I'm being triggered but is there a way we can categorize the regions of the people from specific countries as being most annoying/disrespectful? I'd see the more douchey travelers coming from cities or places that lack cultural enrichment at home.
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>>1228170
hmm
but what about france? People mention it often ITT and I can't see how could you possibly consider it lacking rich culture (I'm not french though, so maybe I'm completely wrong?)
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Australia tourists are pretty bad most of the time

Chinese tourists can be shit too, it's funny because when I visited China, all the people there were relatively nice
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>>1227992
>Why do you hate New Yorkers.

Keep in mind I'm referring to people from the city, not up state.

The ones I have met abroad have been the epitome of the loud obnoxious boisterous american whose conversation always has to center around something political or controversial. It's exhausting and embarrassing to be deal with them.
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Chinese tourists are the worst i've encountered

They swarm around in gigantic groups and I remember them literally pushing past me to get onto a gondola in Germany. They don't even look like they're enjoying themselves.

Have you guys seen the video of the Chinese tourists at a buffet??
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>>1227927
Check skyscanner. Direct flights are generally cheaper. Cant think of all the routes but Chicago to Amsterdam is one of the cheap routes that comes to mind.
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>>1226117
Think things like shitting up the place, constant partying, haggling to the point of absurdity and not paying, thinking they own the place, rampant drug use, arrogant towards everyone else, staying in their own bubble, wanting to only meet other israelis rather than travelling to experience new cultures etc
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>>1226091
We have wider open spaces and personal spaces in Northern Europe. Extroversion does not equal being loud. Individualism? You guys are the least individual people there is.
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>chinese shitting everywhere
I see a lot of Chinese here, never saw them shitting anywhere and I know plenty of people working in the tourism industry, they bitch about Indians way more. Somebody rented out a holiday house to Indians, they had to renovate it afterwards, because they are like animals. Hotels charge more if you come from India.
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>>1228185
Met some cool New Yorkers, two of those were veterans, maybe that's why they were fun to be around.
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>>1228272
No you don't have wider open spaces than America. Especially not where people live. Check the population density.

Also, America is one of rhe most individualistic societies. Compare them here. This cultural framework was invented by a Northern European (Dutch), btw

https://geert-hofstede.com/united-states.html
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>>1228291
Individualism

The fundamental issue addressed by this dimension is the degree of interdependence a society maintains among its members. It has to do with whether people´s self-image is defined in terms of “I” or “We”. In Individualist societies people are only supposed to look after themselves and their direct family. In Collectivist societies people belong to “in groups” that take care of them in exchange for unquestioning loyalty.

The fairly low score on Power Distance(40) in combination with one of the the most Individualist (91) cultures in the world reflects itself in the following:

The American premise of “liberty and justice for all.” This is evidenced by an explicit emphasis on equal rights in all aspects of American society and government.
Within American organisations, hierarchy is established for convenience, superiors are accessible and managers rely on individual employees and teams for their expertise.
Both managers and employees expect to be consulted and information is shared frequently. At the same time, communication is informal, direct and participative to a degree.
The society is loosely-knit in which the expectation is that people look after themselves and their immediate families only and should not rely (too much) on authorities for support.
There is also a high degree of geographical mobility in the United States. Americans are the best joiners in the world; however it is often difficult, especially among men, to develop deep friendships.
Americans are accustomed to doing business or interacting with people they don’t know well. Consequently, Americans are not shy about approaching their prospective counterparts in order to obtain or seek information. In the business world, employees are expected to be self-reliant and display initiative. Also, within the exchange-based world of work we see that hiring, promotion and decisions are based on merit or evidence of what one has done or can do.
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>>1228185
Haven't met me then. I'm a city kid, and I know about the type of New Yorkers you are talking about. They're from the gentrified parts of Brooklyn or are trust fund babies. They likely moved in after the city became "safe" during the 2000s. They have no idea what some of their neighborhoods were like, they think they do, they've been told, but they really have no clue.

Chances are you haven't met a "real" NYer. We're cut from a different cloth and we're a dieing breed.

Also I never talk about politics, but the topic always comes up when I'm around a German.
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>>1228292
Sir this is a McDonald's drive thru
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I haven't has any problems with an nationality, but certain people are absolute faggots when it comes to finding out you're from USA.
The worst about this are Canadians. I have only met one Canadian that did not try to shit on USA about the political climate.
Personally, I like Chinese, but that's because I speak a little Mandarin and they become infinitely better when you can talk to them.
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>>1228397
m8 it's not
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>>1226164
>Brazilians in central Florida
You literally cannot go to any major theme park without a whole pack of Brazilians wearing Brazil t shirts and waving Brazil flags and other shit. Only seen the Brazil chanting once, it was at a Busch Gardens.
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>>1226852
This

Aussies can be assholes but all in all, they bring the bantz and are usually great at parties.
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>>1228439
I came here to post about this. I was lucky and managed to miss all the Brazilian chanting when I did Disneyworld around July 4th 2 years ago, apart from on one ride, and it immediately became insufferable. They also do mass line cuts and clog up the fast pass lines in their huge groups
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Russians. Definitely Russians.
Or almost every ethnic group traveling in a large groups, really.
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>>1225770
This. I've traveled in India and SE Asia and i've had the exact same experience. Gotta appreciate these isreali restaurants popping up. That shakshuka. Those eggplant dishes. Mein gott!
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>>1228348
kek
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>>1228142

because in the last decade or two, alot of chinese got rich, and alot of them are the worst type nouveau riche u can imagine. no manners, and in their local communities, their wealth gives them status among their peers and so they feel like they own the place and they carry that attitude when they travel.

basically, millions of their version of trailer trash came into money and started traveling, probably the first among many generations in their family to leave the country/continent.
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>>1228292
So you just mean dickheads who only look out for themselves and love big tax cuts for big companies, because ' I'm gonna be rich too one day and fuck my fellow man' sounds about right in my experience.
not individualist in the sense that you care for an individual or that you yourself are an individual, more like that you are part of a leech like hivemind who sucks the blood out of everything(yourself and your country too) for your personal benefit.
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All the douchy monolingual French people actually have massive inferiority complexes due to their lacking language skills.

I realized this when my French got decent.
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I always come to these threads slightly interested in what people think about my own culture and this is the first in a while with no mention of Irish people, not sure if that's a good or bad sign.

In my experience most people are fine but follow slight stereotypes
Scandinavians
>tend to be more reserved
English/Australian chavs/lads
>not great for anything other than a party/night out but potentially excellent for those nights out
Americans
>think they're better educated than me and my friends
Canadians
>at pains to demonstrate their non-American traits
Scottish people
>My favourites, always good craic but knew when to appreciate where they were. We were often the only groups in the room that understand each other without the need for minor translation so that probably had an impact
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>>1227024
People that do shit like that would be considered rude in France as well, not sure its a cultural thing.
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>>1225858
Thx anon. I'm one of those solo American travel types. Can't even function around my own people. People around the world give me a good reception, something about being an ugly MGTOW brings on the pity.
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>>1227265
Personally if i meet an american for the first time i consider it arrogant if you just say which state or city you are from, as if i'm supposed to know your country's geography by heart, i prefer if you say you're from the united states, and if i'm interested enough i'll ask you where exactly do you come from, otherwise i wouldn't care.

Now that i started talking about it, one thing that really pisses me off in americans is how they must always one-up your story, like we're somehow in a competition on who got the crazier stories.

Another thing i don't like is how they need to compare everything everywhere to how it is in the USA, and most often they imply that it's much better in the states and that they're doing us a favor by coming here, if you think your country is the best in everything in the world then fuck off and go back there and stop giving us a headache.
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>>1227999
>small town in Sweden
>buttons for crosswalks
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>>1228147
>only allowed to have one child
That only applied to Han Chinese in larger cities you dumb nigger.
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>>1228889
>what is a joke
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>>1228875
Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. Like when people just say their city and you have no idea where that is. When people ask me where I am from I just say the U.S, unless the person who is asking me is from the U.S too.

And hmm that's interesting that comparing everything to the US pisses you off. I am definitely guilty of doing it. I just mention the differences because I think they're interesting. When I meet foreigners here in the U.S I ask them what differences they see and what they like and dislike about the U.S.
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>>1228875
>Personally if i meet an american for the first time i consider it arrogant if you just say which state or city you are from, as if i'm supposed to know your country's geography by heart, i prefer if you say you're from the united states, and if i'm interested enough i'll ask you where exactly do you come from, otherwise i wouldn't care.
America is a very large country with a vast array of cultures. If anything, saying which state or city they are from can make a big difference.

For example, Americans are generally hated in Canada and the UK. But Canadians & Brits generally hate the redneck Texan/Alabaman type. They might be more okay with Californians and New Yorkers. THAT is why Americans say what state/city they're from, because it can make a big difference in how they're treated.

I can tell that it still makes no difference to you, but it generally works for the rest of the world.
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As an American, I figure you should just say you're from whatever the closest major city to you is. I'm from Orange County so I just say Los Angeles. They're not running a fucking background check on you.
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>>1228920
I'm a Canadian and I just say that I'm from Vancouver even though I'm really more than an hour away from Vancouver.
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>>1228693
>English/Australian chavs/lads
>>not great for anything other than a party/night out but potentially excellent for those nights out


Totally agree. Always completely ignorant of culture or anything interesting.




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