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Where should I go for my first trip to Latin America? I wanna go two weeks in February but I'm not quite sure where to go.

Tempting between:
>Rio Carnival and other parts of Brazil
>Chile, Argentina, Uruguay
>Panama and Costa Rica
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>>1307412
>>Rio Carnival and other parts of Brazil
Very nice but I don't recommend carnival. A dangerous place full doesn't get better when everybody is drunk. I would recommend Santa Catarina instead, or places in the Northeast like Ceará beach towns. But again, avoid carnival.
>>Chile, Argentina, Uruguay
Chile and Argentina outdoors are better in fall, or spring. Santiago sucks, Buenos Aires is disgustingly hot in summer. There is a reason why argies try to get the fuck out to Brazil and Uruguay. Of the three, Uruguay is the only one worth visiting during february. Beach towns are dank places. You can party or chill a will. It's comfy. But I don't think it would be the best place to start touring Latin America. You might get bored, unless you're super rich and want to enjoy the most exclusive activities in Punta del Este.
>>Panama and Costa Rica
Honestly I think this might be the best option. If you're a gringo it will give you the most Latin American feeling. Places have a regular climate all year round, it's a shorter trip, and the ecotourism infrastructure is way more developed if that's what you're looking for.
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>>1307429
What about Belo Horizonte, Sao Paulo and Florianopolis?

I'm a Yuro btw
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>>1307430
>What about Belo Horizonte
Never been there, but I heard it's a very nice place. Weather is temperate, city is nice, and you're close to historical towns like Diamantina and Ouro Preto. If you're a history buff it might be attractive. The Fazendas Mineiras are said to be a nice place to chill and eat great food. BUT, you would be missing the beach, which kind of sucks if it's your first time in Brazil. If you mix it with some other locations, it might be good.
>Sao Paulo
Never been there, but why would you like to visit that concrete monster during summer? Forget about it.
>and Florianopolis?
It's been a while since I've been there, but I love it. You have a beach for every taste: family, luxury, surf, hippies and potheads, desert beaches at the south that you reach after a two hour hike...this post made me want to go back.

Chapada Diamantina and Jericoacoara are two other places I've been to that I recommend.
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>>1307412
You can find good street carnaval in most Brazilian cities, Anon. But if you want to mix carnaval and tourism, you can go either to Ouro Preto and historical cities in Minas Gerais or Olinda (near Recife - one of the best carnavals,)
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>>1307430
>Belo Horizonte
It's an ordinary big city. It is good as a hub to historical cities in Minas Gerais. But there is an astonishing museum (I've been in museums in Spain, Netherlands and Russia) near it (Brumadinho city) called Inhotim, which is very worth to pass a day.
>São Paulo
Everything happens there, it's a sort of Third World New York
>Flonópsh
I love it. They say Jurerê internacional has Ibiza-Tier parties in the summer, but as I have never been in Ibiza I can't confirm.
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Why are Mexican girls so qt?
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Ecuador might be nice. It's got all the climates in Latin America (except for desert and things like the Patagonia) in a relatively small area. It's very safe too, probably the safest in Latin America after Chile.
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>>1307448
brighter candles burn out faster
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>>1307448
OP here now that I think of it, I canceled out Mexico because I don't hear a lot of good things coming out of that country, but I'm I right to do so?
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Should I take my extensive std collection from Southeast Asia and add to it in South America? I feel like Asia is better but never been south of US
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>>1307528
Yes. Don't fucking go there m8
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>>1307528
that's completely retarded. Mexico is big. And it receives more tourists combined than the rest of Latin America. That would tell you something.
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>>1307412
Cuzco, Peru. Just hang out and get altitude sickness, eat alpaca steak, drink coca tea, try some guinea pig, hike around some of the most beautiful places on earth, visit Macchu Picchu. All round incredible place.


Rio Carnival can be great too. I stayed in a backpackers in Vidigal, a "pacified" favela - it was beautiful and very close to Ipanema beach, the main richfag tourist area. Mostly just hung around and chilled, rode bicycle around. I wasn't too much into the partying - though you should definitely visit the Sambadrome (a life changing experience)
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>>1307412
First of all, realize that Brazil is very different from every other latin country.

Second, how much money do you want to spend? Don't go to Rio to save money. It's a very dangerous city, so you need to spend if you want to be safe.

Belo Horizonte: good for a couple of days of drinking and partying.

Sao Paulo: the same, but much bigger and has many more options.

Florianopolis: nothing to add, except that the beaches in the south of the country have cold water. The beaches in the northeastern region of Brazil have hot water and that makes a lot of difference.

How many days are you spending in Brazil? The whole two weeks, if you chose it as a destination?
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>>1307653
Yes if I would go to Brazil I would remain there my entire stay
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>>1307666
Do you have money to spend or are you on a tight budget?

Brazil is very big and every region is interesting. I would suggest that you fly a lot.
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>>1307668
My budget would be rather tight. Not extremely though
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I'm going to Chile in a few weeks, how much time should I spend in Santiago?
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>>1307528
There are tons of people on here who went to Mexico and loved it . I'm pretty sure Colombia has more crime anyway.
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>>1307468
I've been to Ecuador and I loved it. The food was good, the scenery was beautiful, and there was various random cool stuff that I liked.

They use the USD too, so it's convenient if you're American.

It is one of the safest countries in Latin America, with a murder rate only a little higher than that of the US.
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>>1307528
>cancelled mexico to go to brazil

Look OP, I spent the last year all around south america and mexico, and Mexico was by far the safest place I went. The violence is between cartels and even then it's almost entirely confined to the north (where it's boring to go anyway). You won't encounter danger in Mexico unless you specifically go looking for it -- I can't say the same about Brazil or elsewhere in S America (maybe chile is fine though)

>>1307448
They usually aren't. Only the wealthier girls (think top 5-10%) in Mexico City, Guadalajara, Monterrey, and a couple other spots are decent looking. Rest are butt ugly.

Go to Colombia, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, etc. - that's where the quality is.
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>>1307815
>Go to Colombia, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, etc. - that's where the quality is.

What about Costa Rica and Panama?
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>>1307597
>Mexico is big. And it receives more tourists combined than the rest of Latin America

The number of 35 million tourists that go to México per year are a meme, the mexican government mixes Pablo and Paco who work in the south of the US and go in car to visit the family for a few days with Hans and Nigel who go by plane to see the aztec pyramids or mexican beaches, if we speak of tourists in the strict sense of the word the number of 35 million would be reduced by half or less, just remember that there are 35 million mexicans in the US, only 11 million are illegal and many of them have family in Mexico to which they send money
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En the time you say is summer you well prefer Uruguay chile and argentina
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>>1307412
I did Chile, Argentina, Uruguay with a friend and had the time if my life
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If Mexico wasn't a shit hole why would they be colonizing the US in a desperate effort to get out?
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Any recommendations for a Latin American getaway this January-February..Coming from USA

Looking to meet some sexy "light skinned" latinas, (no problem with P2P but no Brazilian niggers) do some /out/ activities like fishing hiking, maybe some cultural stuff(museums, landmarks, etc).

Just looking for a week or two vacation when the winter weather hits the northeast.
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>>1308438
>>1308438
Considering Costa Rica
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>>1308438
It's summer in the southern cone then, so Chile/Argentina/Uruguay?
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Is Panama City a cool place to go out?
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>>1308438
>Not wanting a race-mixed carioca.
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>>1307528
>canceled Mexico out of all places
Nigga, Brazil is way more violent than Mexico, why would you do that?
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>>1308976
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>>1308438
CR and Panama are mostly over the hill Colombian imports (at least the HDR/Cocal/Habanos/etc scenes. You can find light skinned women in Colombia without a problem but the scene is difficult to navigate if you don't speak Spanish. If you don't then I recommend staying at the Medellin Mansion in Medellin, the owner brings girls to the hotel and makes it extremely userfriendly. You will actually find more white/light skinned girls in Brazil than any of the above countries. Just go to Sao Paulo instead of Rio. Sao Paulo even has a better P4P scene than Rio nowadays anyway, and no shortage of white girls. Argentina is another option as well although I don't have any experience there.
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>>1307710
If your budget is tight, avoid Rio. Your chances of getting robbed or killed are very high.
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>>1307714
1 day, go to south Valdivia or Puerto Varas
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>>1309114
Why are Brazilians always so self hating? Fucking annoying
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American here who wants to go to Brazil next summer to do Jiu jitsu for a month.

I posted in another thread but it died and I got no advice.

Any of you guys recommend any areas to train at? I don't have any specific gyms in mind. I've heard that Sao Paulo is better than rio but who knows if thats true
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>>1307714
don't waste time in santiago, maybe a day, make a tour around santa lucia hill, enjoy the view of the city from there or from costanera center(the tallest building in south america). that's all that you need to know and see from santiago. oh, there is a teleferic too, well, that's all you need to see from santiago.
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>>1309210
How's the nightlife?
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>>1309204
No reason to go to Brazil for BJJ anymore. California has the best Jiu jitsu schools and athletes in the world right now.

t. brother is a black belt worlds champion in his division
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>>1309376
Yeah I know, I've heard the same thing. I'd probably get better training here since there'd be no language barrier. It's mainly just an excuse for me to go and see Brazil.
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>>1307815
What? I've seen a ton of Mexican women and most are not ugly
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>>1308438
If you only want white girls, don't even go to Latin America
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>>1309582
light skinned and white are two different things

habla ingles
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>>1309186
Rio is a shithole. There are so many better brazilian cities. I'm not telling him to avoid the whole country.
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Utila, Honduras
or
Bocas del Toro, Panama

These are the two coolest places on the fucking planet.
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>>1309833
>There are so many better brazilian cities

Such as? Sao Paulo? Belo Horizonte?
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>>1310406
Both are better if you want some "urban" fun like good restaurants, bars, pubs and nightclubs.

Beaches? There are 50+ better cities than Rio in the northeast alone.
Dozens more if you want to visit the south of the country.
Do some basic research and create a shortlist.
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>>1307710
>>1309114
Other anon. It's not the best time to visit Rio now. Rio state is bankrupted. Other than that, life cost in Rio is quite high.
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>>1307528
Loved Mexico. But it is sketchy, not just in the north. I was there at the BPM mass shooting, and then a friend of mine went down a few years later in the same area and found a body that had been shot on their first day.

But besides that, loved my time in Mexico.
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>>1307528
Mexico is fucking amazing. It's like seeing the most beautiful miracle of life revealed to you. But each year you spend in that beautiful country, you have one in ten thousand chance of being murdered. Do you think it's worthy? That depends on you. But remember, being alive it's ever being on risk...
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>>1309584
"light skinned" is implying you only want white Latinas

then again I'm not sure what your cutoff is for light skinned

if you wouldn't eat the ass of a chick like pic related, you're gay though
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>>1311754
their murder rate is not 100 per 100,000, that's more like El Salvador or Honduras
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Colombianfag here. It's definitely improved a lot since the 90s and the dollar is very strong here. You can definitely enjoy yourself here, especially in the countryside. I'd avoid Bogota though.
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>>1311797
For me the girl in your pic would be white. For me any latina I could make white children with is alright.
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>>1311798
I said "one in ten thousand", that's 1 / 10 000, equivalent to 10 / 100 000 .
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I see a lot of people here mentioning Mexico

I was thinking of taking my car all the way from the US down to Argentina

Is that possible?
Is it ok anywhere in Mexico to drive through the border?
Will I get murdered on my trip to/from South America by car?
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>>1312035
No road between panama and colombia,
Ferrying your car can run up the price alot.
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>>1312030
oops I did my math wrong

10/100,000 is not even noteworthy, many US cities are more dangerous than that. Philly, Houston, Dallas, etc.
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>>1312035
The Darien gap is pretty dangerous
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>>1311925
if you ever come to Colombia don't listen to this retard. Bogota is by far the city with the most cultural activities of all kinds (including the largest theater festival in the World, the largest rock festival in the Americas...).

>>1314028
it isn't if you go along the coast, and there is no reason to do it inland since there isn't roads or anything there.
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Heading to Nicaragua in November. What am I in for? Crime, adventure, food, etc? I'm heading down with three doctors. Budgets are healthy but we're looking to hostels to have a more sincere experience. We all speak English, no Spanish. The only definite part of our trip is San Juan Del Sur for two Sunday Fundays.
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>>1311797
>>1308976
>>1308439
>>1308438
>>1307448
>>1307412
>implying all the natives are gonna look like this
You guys must be stupid if you think the average woman will be this hot, like seriously
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Anyone know the cheapest way to get from Brazil to Colombia? Probably leaving from Salvador, but up for travelling internally first. Flighst re fucking expensive.
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>>1315168
I live around a lot of Latinas, from various countries, and they're pretty good looking on average
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No mentions of Cuba so far in this thread. So far I've only heard bad stuff about Cuba, anyone that can refute this?
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>>1315539
the way you phrased this makes it sound like you live in a non-Latin country and these women are immigrants or the descendants of immigrants. obviously these women are going to be of higher quality than the ones who were too poor to leave. dumbass.
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>>1314203
Bumping on this for reply. Has no one been to Nicaragua?
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>>1314044
Nop, don't listen to this guy. If you want to do Tourism, Bogotá would be just the landing place. Go to Santa Marta, Medellín, Salento, San Agustín.
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>>1316513
I guess that's why Bogota is main destination by foreign tourists in Colombia: https://mundo.sputniknews.com/americalatina/201705021068851290-turismo-america-latina/

retard.
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>>1316466
I've been to Ecuador too and saw plenty of qts
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>>1315433
So am I going to have to hitchhike through Venezuela?
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>>1307429

>Uruguay
I went to Uruguay in February and it was pretty dead. I was told it gets crazy in the month of December and January. I loved Punta del Este, however I was traveling with parents. What are these exclusive activities you speak of? I plan on going back

>>1307430
> Florianopolis
My old bjj instructor was Brazilian and he highly recommend Florianopolis. Told me the place and people are absolutely beautiful. Mentioned how its filled with white blonde brazilians and how I have a high chance of getting laid there. Def on my bucket list

The next 2 places I really want to check out is Colombia and Cuba. I want to hike through a jungle. Bonus points if theres also beautiful beaches.

Whats the best time of year to visit these 2 countries?
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>>1317125
Uruguayan here.
If you are looking for fun, Uruguay is fun from late December to early February (the peak of the summer). The rest of the time, Uruguay is a small, nice country with nice people. Probably colder than you expected.
The fun part is in the east. Punta del este is, if you are loaded, compared to Miami sometimes. Nice beaches, lots of clubs, expensive hotels and casinos. Music at the beach, djs and drinks everywhere. It all costs at least x1.5 more than the rest of the country. Lots of exclusive stuff there.
If you are not loaded, or at least want some fun in a less flashy way, you have to head Rocha.
La Paloma(in Rocha) , has nice beaches as well, is more like surf oriented, plenty of places to camp, and lots of clubs at night close to the beach.
Punta del Diablo(Rocha as well) , is like 85% of the year, a fishers town, cold, mostly dead, few people and just a fistful of things to do.
In plain summer? Babyyyy, lots of people camping, lots of drinking, music, clubs, some hippie stuff as well, beaches crowded with smashed people from last night, music blasting, the whole thing.
Cabo Polonio (yes, Rocha) is like the final boss for hippies. Is a small town in the beach, far for from civilization, they literally have no electricity, with a few exceptions, is a fishers town as well, only reachable after hiking for like 5 kilometers of dunes, or in an all terrain bus that takes you there. You are not allowed to camp there, as it is not controlled by police, but controlled by the Marine. Only option is hostels, or a small cabin. Everything is reggae, everything is dreadlocks, weed, beer, fishing, selling handcrafted shit to everyone who is not from there, or is just there for the day, really popular among hippie tourist. To the point that some of those tourist are actually living there now.
The whole idea of not being commercial and away from people, turned it in a really expensive place to stay, so hostels are expensive.
Sorry walltext
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>>1317125
Same as
>>1317155
To have an idea, Punta del este is so exclusive in summer, that people from the whole continent come here, rich and famous people from Brazil and Argentina, come here to party or just chill. The most exclusive parties are there.
For example, David Getta never placed a foot in Uruguay, with the exception of exclusive parties where he comes to dj in punta del este. Many artist would not play for regular people, but would do it for the people from there.
Take this idea. I've seen probably 4 Ferraris in my whole life, and most were Uruguayan (shit tier Ferraris).
In punta del este in summer? Lamborghinis, Ferraris, even there is a guy with a Pagani Zonda there, lots of exclusive of collection cars, with plates from Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, and Miami. I'm a /o/tist and this speaks a lot for me.

I've also been in Florianópolis a few years ago, and I've been there a few times also. It is a Island rounded by nice beaches, like one for every taste. There is Canasbieiras, which works as the center for Florianópolis, and it has most of the residential area with hotels and stuff. It has a few clubs, the beach is crowded but you have drinks and stuff. Then there is Jurere which is the exclusive part of the island, with mansions and exclusive brands shoppings. The beach is nice, not that crowded. Then there is Joaquina which is the one for surfers, big waves, music and drinks. And there is also Praia do Forte which is desert like, big, really chill beach to do whatever you want without bumping into people. And you have the Pirates Ship tour that takes you around the coast and promises a chance to see dolphins(which you won't see) , but if you are doing it, do the one with the Pirates because they dance and drink and is much more fun. Don't do the other one, except that you wanna just ride a normal, boring boat. (I've done the cheaper one and regret it as fuck)
Sorry for walltext again, would reply more precisely if you want about something.
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Hola Amigos,

I want to travel from North to South America in December and fly to Asia after

What do you think of my itinerary? How many days should I spend in each of these cities?

>Mexico City, Mexico
>Medellin, Colombia
>Bogota, Colombia
>Lima, Peru
>Manaus, Brazil
>Sao Paulo, Brazil
>Florianopolis, Brazil
>Buenos Aires, Argentina

It's my first time traveling in South America and the trip could last 2 months before I fly to Asia. I'm traveling on $1000/month budget (not including transportation)
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>>1315713
The government makes it alot less fun than it has the potential of being.
Other than that is pretty chill, for me as a european i imagine it is easier to visit than for an american
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>>1317189
I think it would be a waste to travel only from city to city, south america really is more amazing outsidr of cities, landscape and nature is 2nd to none.
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Latin American women are so pretty

I can't believe 4chan virgins think Chinese women are better
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>>1317261

so what would you do differently? i don't know how transportation works in those regions but i understand the region isn't safe
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>>1317271
The region is pretty safe, except venezuela and brazil.

When i went to brazil i got robbed three times, it was insane. The streets are often unsafe even during daylight, even in rio.
My parents are from brazil and they are very sad about what is happening there. The crime rate went up alot after the 1980's, it is not uncommen to see undercover police schoot criminals while you are in brazil, it does not feel safe.

The rest of south america is about as safe as southern mexico, which is to say: keep alert and you will be fine.

I would sugest the andean highway, from colombia to argentina.
From peru or equador you can take a long trip in the amazon.

I lived in brazil for about 6 years and would honestly not recommend it.
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>>1317273

but if i avoid rio, should i be ok? i'm just going there to fuck brazilian girls
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>>1316486
San Juan del Sur is filled to the brim with tourists. you don't have to worry about anything, it's like going to Cancun.
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Hola!
I'm going to El Salvador for a few days and then heading to Nicaragua.
Any good places in Nicaragua to chill, take it easy, avoid getting mugged and maybe meet some girls, local or travellers?
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Between Santiago de Chile and Mexico City, which one would be best to live in for 5-6 months? I will be studying during this time.
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>>1317484
For local girls I can recommend Matagalpa or Esteli. Decent amount of white girls and girls in general are not too heavy on the Indian features.
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>>1307412

How big a problem is counterfeit money in Buenos Aires? I watched this show about scams in other countries and it looks ridiculously common. Now I'm paranoid.
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>>1317617
I think that depends on your interests and preferences. There are more to see in Mexico City, and more foreign students. But Santiago is more safe.
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Mexican girls' butts smell amazing
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>>1318235
like what, beans?
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>>1318358
Shit.
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>>1318358
like amazing, heavenly, feminine musk
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Ecuador is nice as a short trip, you can see the Andes, the Amazon and the Pacific Coast easily in two weeks, it also uses the USD so no conversion shenanigans are necessary.
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>>1318665
I've been to Ecuador and I liked it a lot

Beautiful scenery, good food, pretty developed as far as developing countries go. Cuenca almost seemed like a "first world" city to me.
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>>1307412
>Venezuela hoverhanding Dominican
lmao
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Rule #1:
If you go to Chile, don't stay in Santiago more than a couple of days
Go to Valdivia or just the South in general

Also if you stay in Valparaiso, don't go out past 8 pm alone, you are gonna get robbed
t. I live in Valparaiso
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>>1319473
Woah I thought Chile was safe
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>>1315168

Listen to this man. The only attractive Mexican women in the world are either on TV or in North America. All the others are obese with hypertension, not to mention disgusting.
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>>1319473
How is Vina del Mar?
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go to Medellin. your dick will fall off.
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>>1319476
>Latin america
>Safe
Even the most developed places there are still rotten with crime and untrustworthy rodents.
Every door and window is barred and armed guards are everywhere, waiting for violence that will eventually come.
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>>1319486
Don't really agree.

The Mexicans who flood into the US aren't really representative, since they're dirt-poor mostly indigenous dwarves.

You'd be surprised at the number of European-looking Mexicans in Mexico. They're the people who suck the country dry and live high on the hog, so there's no reason for them to leave apart from the kidnapping threat.
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IMO (having traveled through):

Just don't go:
>Northern Mexico
>Any place most people are black (Caribbean Central America, Pacific Colombia, parts of Carib' Colombia)
>Honduras
>El Salvador

Be very careful:
>Pacific Mexico (inc. Baja)
>Lowland Guatemala
>Panama
>Rural, suburban, and provincial Mexico
>Rest of Colombia

Stay alert:
>Costa Rica
>Urban Central Mexico
>Coastal Peru
>Highland Guatemala
>Nicaragua
>Yucatan

Relax
>Andes (all of it)
>Bolivia
>Ecuador
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>>1320140
...and as a general rule for Latin America:
>blacks are extreme threat
>mestizos are high threat
>natives are low threat
>whites are zero threat

What I don't get is why places where everyone is white are nice and safe, and places where everyone is native are pretty nice and pretty safe, but when the two mix (mestizo) everything turns to complete shit.
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Does ecuador have any P2P scene?
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>>1307412
Costa Rica, just got back from there. Tourist friendly, but you pay American prices in all tourist areas. If you get it in the country, your money will go farther.

Panama is pretty similar, but less tourism infrastructure and less English spoken, except in expat areas and the canal.

If you like whores, both countries have them from all over Latin America. Not cheap though reasonable.

If you decide on Costa Rica, I recommend Manuel Antonio. Take the Sansa airlines hopper flight. It's worth it. They fly a lot of places.

Also, volcanoes.
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>>1317189
Only a day or 2 in Lima. Not a whole lot to do there.
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>>1320141
Green area is Mayan indians. The Orange area is mestizos. And the red area is blacks. Literally can't make this up.

This pattern holds just as well everywhere else.
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>>1320140
Have you ever been to Honduras? Because I have and the tourist towns are perfectly save. You can even have a good time partying in Tegucigalpa. Same in El Salvador. And ooooh scary black people what do they do? Nothing. You are not living there you are a tourist that won't even come in contact with them.

Stay alert in Costa Rica, Yucatan and Nicaragua. What? these places are more safer than any medium sized US city where you are probably shitposting from.

>>1320207
You are one stupid faggot. The African community lives only on the Carribean coast in the state with the number 59. The green areas are completely rural with barely any people living in them so crime doesn't get reported. Also every second male Guatemalan in these areas has worked in the USA so how could there be crime when there are no men left?

The states with the high numbers are border regions to Honduras and drug entry ports. There are no Africans in these states.
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>>1320237
Yes I've been around El Salvador and Honduras, and yes they're very dangerous. You can tell the danger level in a place from the level of security measures people take, and in those countries it can be pretty extreme.

I actually ran into a real-life sicario in El Salvador. I was walking down a shitty street during the day, and about 10 metres ahead of me a guy with a black balaclava on and a gun walked out of a building and got onto a shitty motorcycle, presumably to go murder someone.
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>>1320238
...and you're totally wrong about Guatemala population density; it's completely the opposite (see map). Lots of people live in the highlands; they don't kill each other because they're not beaners.
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>>1320241
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>>1320238
And an outdated graph from 5 years ago is proof of that? As I said the tourist towns are perfectly safe and nothing ever happens. The only tourists that seem to die in Central America are Americans.

>>1320241
Highlands are mostly rural areas and they have been decimated by their own government for 40 years so why should they kill each other if all they ever did was live in hiding and fear?

>>1320243
These graphs are worthless because no one defines what a native is. In Guatemala the mestizos or Ladinos are the rich upper/middle class (10%) and everyone else is Indian. Homicide rate is high where the drug flows and close to Honduras, no surprise.
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>>1320247
I've never been there, but from what I hear the only safe part (and the only touristy part) of Honduras is Rotan/Utila.

I recall a couple of the touristy beach communities south of San Salvador being gated: I don't think they'd bother if there was no threat. The sicario I saw was by a beach in eastern El Salvador.

I've traveled around these countries (also Belize) and nothing happened to me, but by no means does that mean they're safe, and especially not for someone who's not 'street smart' about sketchy places. E.g. I had a blast in San Ignacio years ago, but I sure as shit would not recommend it for the yoga set: http://edition.channel5belize.com/archives/123854

>Two weeks ago a Canadian filmmaker, Matthiew Klinck was murdered at his house in Selena in the Cayo District. Tonight, there is another murder to report...
>the body of a vacationing American television producer with ABC network in Chicago was found floating on the Mopan River...
>Swaney had initially set out to go horse riding, but her decision to instead stay behind and perform yoga exercises cost her, her life...
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FUCK DUDES

I just got offered an English Teaching job at ITESO, but all this talk of getting murdered daily basically ANYWHERE is really making me reconsider.

I want to leave where I live asap (I'm fucking 25 and never had a real 9-5 job, can you believe it), got this offer through some friends contacts, but I don't want to survive an earthquake just to be stabbed by a thug and then shot by the police while begging for help.

>Also I practice destreza if that helps
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>>1320251
You can actually travel all over Honduras. Copan, Gracias, Roatan as you mentioned, Lago Joyoa and Comayagua are all safe. Hell even around Tegucigalpa has great spots for visiting.

El Salvador has most of the tourist attractions in the West so I cannot comment on the East but I never felt unsafe.
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Doing Nicaragua. Our itinerary is fly into Managua, cab to San Juan Del Sur for 3 nights, 2 nights on Ometepe, 1 wildcard night (don't know where we should stay yet) and then 2 nights in Leon, then back to Managua to catch our flight.

We want to hike Concepcion Volcano but haven't figured out any other adventures yet. Please pass on your resume recommendations
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>>1320140
>Be very careful:
>Rest of Colombia

Relax
>Andes (all of it)


Colombia is the most Andean of all countries, demographically speaking, my retard friend.

and the Caribbean coast of Colombia has plenty of municipalities with zero homicides.
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>>1320376
I'm thinking of the Trubo area on the far-western carib' coast. The Darien is full of ruthless drug and people smugglers.

And I never got an "Andean" pan-flutes-and-funny-hats vibe in Colombia, even in the mountains, as there is in Ecuador (somewhat), Peru, and Bolivia.
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>>1307714
Go to Pucon
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>>1319476
it is pretty safe, it's mu

>>1320135
You fag, I just went on a trip to Vegas and saw so many hot Mexican/Mexican-American chicks. And indigenous features aren't bad, if I wanted a white girl I'd just go for a white girl.
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>>1320141
Ecuador is pretty mestizo, indigenous leaning and it seems pretty safe as far as developing countries go.
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>>1319486
Mexico is in North America

And there are plenty of hot Mexican chicks both in Mexico and the US.

I live in New York, have been to Vegas and there are plenty of hot Mexican chicks in both.
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Who's hotter, mestizas or PR/DR girls?

There are both where I live and I can't decide, I love them both
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I am going to Sao Paulo for 10 days, is there anything in particular I should visit? Want to do something fun my my friend. Clubs, bars?
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>>1320423
The Andes is a mountain range. It doesnt have anything to do with pan-flutes and funny hats you retard. What the other anon tried to say is: from all countries in South-America that have the Andes mountain range run through them, Colombia has the largest part of the Andes. On other words: the logic of your first post>>1320140 is flawed.

I just returned from Colombia since 1 month. And most of the areas in the coffee region (google it) are perfectly safe. Medellin is the safest (big) city in Colombia.
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>>1321952
> from all countries in South-America that have the Andes mountain range run through them, Colombia has the largest part of the Andes

no, what I meant is that Colombia has the highest proportion of its population living in the Andes among Sudaca countries with 70% of the population living in the Andes.

Most Peruvians live in the coast because of economic reasons. Mountain Peruvians emigrate to the coast.

Ecuador and Bolivia split half and half their populations between their highlands and lowlands. Guayaquil and Santa Cruz are the largest cities of these countries.

Chilean, Argentine and, to a lesser degree, Bolivian and Peruvian Andes aren't very livable because of climatic and biogeographic reasons.

>>1320141
this doesn't make much sense either, Chile is Mestizo and doesn't have many homicides, Paraguay too. Eastern Colombia is just as Mestizo as the West but it doesn't have a history of cartels and drug trafficking, and it's safer.
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>>1321952
>Medellin is the safest (big) city in Colombia.

very debatible. For decades Medellin had a much higher homicide rate than Bogota, and it's still slightly higher: Medellin still has remnants of their drug cartels and neoparamilitary groups that didn't really affected cities like Bogota, Tunja or Bucaramanga.

Bucaramanga is definitely safer, Manizales too. The Caribbean cities are decreasing their homicide rates. Santa Marta decreased 70% in 3 years and now their homicide rate is one of the lowest among capital cities. I don't know much about Pasto, Popayan and other cities.
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>>1321691
Pr/dr chicks by a fucking mile. But im biased since i love la negras
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>>1321950

>>1321950
>art
MASP, Pinacoteca, Museu do Futebol (soccer museum)

>go fo a walk
City center (arround São Bento subway station and at daylight if you don't wanna get robbed), Paulista Avenue, maybe Faria Lima Avenue (just corporate buildings)

>parks
Ibirapuera, parque do povo, the park on "museu do ipiranga" (museum is closed as the building is falling apart)

>football/soccer match
Pacaembu still has the nicest stadium vibe but Allianz is new and comfy

>bars, clubs
Arround Itaim, Vila Olimpia, Pinheiros and Jardins neighborhoods. I'd recommend Vila Mix for shit brazilian country music (sertanejo) and non prostitutes whores (you can call them biscates). D-edge for gls nightclub - nice music and full of hipsters, but overall nice.

Nightclubs arent my thing so I'll just pass.

Esch café for cubans cigars. Paramount for cheap and good drinks. Pitico for hipster vibe and smoke allowed. Grácia Bar for pinkish pussies and nightclub vibe.

All arround VIla Madalena neighborhood for bars, altough I don't like it there. But nice street scene, bars all arround.

Rua Augusta - Hipsters, drug addicted, hookers, cheap bars and nightclubs. Its promiscous, full of young people and degenerate. But I guess it's worth a visit.

Bars with nightclub ambiance charge entrance fee (usually from 30-100 R$)

>brothels
Café Photo, Bomboa, Scandallo lounge (expect to pay at least R$ 500 to the girl, but could go up to R$ 1.500, plus drinks and entrance fee. So you should have a thousand R$ to splurge.

There's also Casarão in Augusta Street. That's a nice fucked up place, full of 2-3 hundred R$ hookers that could look horrendous or as good as the above places. Full of wageslaves therefore cramped.
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>>1322077
>restaurants
Mani for contemporary food.
Figueira Rubayat for a mix of everything.
Wanna try some steak? Go to Fogo de Chão for all you can eat (rodizio) or Rodeio for a la carte.
Italian? Tre Biccheri or Fasano (ulra expensive).
Portuguese? A Bela Sintra.
Pizza? Camelo.
Japanese? Kinoshita.

Well, enough of food. FYI all of these restaurants are kinda expensive.

>where to stay
Jardins neighborhood would be the best. Itaim is a good option too.

p.s. Moema neighborhood also has nice bars.

Also, hookers here https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo-capital

And there's Parque Villa Lobos, another nice park.

That's what I remember. Any doubt you can ask me and I'll try to help you.

Have a nice trip, anon.
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>>1322065
I'm not that into full black girls, but those 25% black PR/DR chicks drive me wild

big brown ass, curly hair, thick thighs, mmm
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>>1322147
oh and they have nice feet too. I work with a couple hot Puerto Rican chicks and I would give my left nut just to have their sweaty feet in my face

but to be fair, mestizas also have amazing feet
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>>1322079
It's such a great guide, holy shit, thank you! Sorry for such a late answer.
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>>1307630
How was Macchu Picchu?
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>>1317273
That's funny, because I live in Brazil for almost 40 years and I have never been robbed - twice they opened my car. But I had problems with pickpockets in Barcelona and Moscow. Just stay alert and don't go to a favela and everything will be fine. Bonus mode: don't be white.
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Haven't seen anyone mention Costa Rica. How's that? Seems like the safest country in South America.
I only have a small budget, so hopefully it'a cheap as well.
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>>1320195
More pls
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>>1323785
What if you're white?
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>>1323797
CR is expensive on the coasts, and still sort of spendy in the interior.
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>>1323822
White=gringo. But you can act as a white Brazilian if you obey local dress code. For example, in Rio always walk with flip flops, sleeveless t-shirts, don't go out with jewelry (including weeding ring), etc. And always walk with some extra money for mandatory gibs.
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>>1323797
CR is in Central America. It's safe for CA, but also extremely expensive for Latin America.

If you're on a small budget go to Nicaragua: even safer and much much cheaper.
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>>1323889
>flip flops, sleeveless t-shirts

But isn't that exactly how burgers dress?
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>>1316822
I lived in Ecuador for 1 year, I don't know what a cute is for you, but they were REALLY rare there. Like 1/50, when They are like 1/8 back home(Sweden)
maybe I guess I got a low standard in women, but either way, cute girls are rare in south america from my experience
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Where is the safest place to live in central/South america? I want to live and work in a foreign country for 5 months starting january
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>>1307653
Is Rio too bad for a solo traveler? I just want to visit Brazil for a short period
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>>1324002
Probably Ecuador or highland Peru.
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I just booked my tickets to Chile for most of January and February woooo

I'll be in Santiago if anybody is interested in seeing some of the cool shit Chile has to offer ^.^
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>>1307412
Checkout Cartagena, Colombia. Great beach city.
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>>1316466
Face it, the white race is finished with all the QT latinas coming to muddle white blood. Accept it.
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>>1320274
Fucking don't faggot it's not forever. Just don't fall in love latinas love roping poor gringos into getting them citizenship if they can.
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>>1320274
Do it*
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>>1321691
PR/DR girls are inbred as fuck.
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>>1324113
really? they don't look inbred to me
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>>1324034
Not the quoted. But nowadays it isn't the best time to visit Rio.

Have in mind that Rio is suffering the biggest crisis in it's history, both economically and criminally.

Seriously, in this year we had more than 120 police officers assassinated in Rio de Janeiro. Not to mention the tourists that got shot while been escorted to a favela.

I don't think Rio is bad for a solo traveller. At the moment its just bad enough for all tourists alike.

Anyway, if you want to ignore all that I said, I would say that is a city best enjoyed with a small group.

That's because the beaches and the bar culture are mostly a group thing. But that's a easy thing to fix. Just stay at a hostel and you'll find some people to get arround with.
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>>1307412
Whats Porto Alegre like?
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I would recommend Colombia personally. I had a blast in Bogota and pretty much stuck to the Zona T area. Great nightlife and great people. I found Medellin to be rather tacky. It seemed like every girl I met in Medellin was vapid and augmented with plastic surgery. Bogota reminded me of NYC, whereas Medellin was like a subdued Miami.
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>>1320060
this. I went with my now ex, and she was pissed at how much i was staring, and my ex was fit as fuck. Funny all the colombians wanted a hot european, i just wanted a sexy colombian.

Going back soon, SOLO.
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>>1324306
I couldn't get over how perpetually awful the weather was in Bogota. Just pulled up pic related to prove point.

Personally I most enjoyed Cali, although I wouldn't put Colombia at the top of a Latin American travel list. Go to Mexico instead.
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>>1324170
That sounds pretty bad.

I wanted to go solo btw. Suppose that's not an issue during carnaval?
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red pill me on tijuana

i'm going there in december from san diego for 1 day and 1 night as a baby step for traveling into central and south america
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>>1324136
That's what I heard, the fact they live on an island limits how many partners are available.
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>>1324673
Get that poon!!!
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>>1324113
>>1324136
Ive noticed alot of them are ugly or meh, but the ones that are hot are instaboner tier
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>>1323966
This was my experience in mexico. I found the mestizo/indigenous girls too pudgy and wrinkly for my taste. However my white ish colombian friend was falling in love every other minute. Different strokes i guess
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>>1324986

>>1323966
You might just be a fag

>>1324987
Mexico is filled with hot mestizas, you're either not looking hard enough or are trying too hard to get /pol/ points
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>>1324986
Really? I live in New York and there's a fuckton of them here, I would say they're pretty attractive on average.
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>>1307448
Because what you see is through media and media only cares about the best of the best.
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>>1325004
I live in New York, I see Mexican girls irl on a daily basis

and I've been to other places with a lot of Mexican people
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>>1325002
>you're either not looking hard enough or are trying too hard to get /pol/ points
Like i said, different strokes. Out of all the countries ive been to mexico was by far the worst for woman. Maybe im just spoiled from living in nyc idk or maybe they just arent my thing
>muh powl
>>>/plebbit/
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what's the easiest place to fuck a qt latina (without paying)?
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>>1325149
Genuinly intersted in that too. Stressing the "qt latina" part of the question though.

So the answers most probably should not be Bolivia or Guatemala
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>>1325149
>>1325156

tijuana, $30 for 20 minutes
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>>1325159
>without paying
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>>1325160

any american city you fucking autist
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>>1325163
This. Dont forget
>56%
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>>1325125
I live in NYC too, I match with Mexiqts all the time on tinder

>>1325163
Right, most major US cities have at least some Hispanics
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>>1325163
This guy's right. Latinas love whites fyi.
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>>1325337
There are 3 kinds of Latinas in the US

1. Regular Latina
2. Whitewashed
3. Blackwashed

The first 2 tend to be open to dating white guys but not so much number 3

And that's just the US born ones, there are also the immigrant Latinas which I would say are open to dating white guys as long as there's not some huge cultural barrier
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>>1307412
>Venezuelan
>not skinny and starving

Somethings fishy
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>>1324780
Avoid the police like a plague
For sex: Hong Kong and adelitas are a tourist trap, there are better brothels. Street girls are cheaper if you want aids. The nightclubs scene is decent, being white means nothing to the Mexicans girls in TJ(at least the young cute ones). If anything being a gringo makes it harder.
Tacos el frank for tacos
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>>1311754
more chances getting killed in the US in a mass shooting, a nigger robbing you and stabbing you, or some redneck shooting you because you cut him off in the road
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>>1307448
You mean vulgar?
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>>1307815
You nailed it. Mexican girls are usually unattractive as fuck, and they have no sense of fashion. On the other hand they are often very nice, approachable, and if you're white extremely easy to fuck.
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>>1326347
In the US, non-ghetto Mexican chicks dress very well
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>>1326347

i'll tell you about it after i come back from cancun
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>>1323797
>I only have a small budget, so hopefully it'a cheap as well.
It is central America and quite expensive. The cheaper and less touristic alternative is Nicaragua
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>>1309204

go to Rio, train with the oldschool gracies that are still there
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>>1323797
>Costa Rica
>South America
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>>1324063
I've been to Ecuador and I loved it

Guayaquil and especially Cuenca actually seem pretty developed
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>>1323939
Nicaragua is not safe.
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>>1318665
>>1318683
People on 4chan being nice about my country for once. what is happening now?
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>>1323797
I found Costa Rica to be overly expensive for what it was. I was there for 3 weeks on a mainly Scuba Diving oriented trip with some other nature/tourist type shit mixed in. The food is beyond bland, don't expect Mexican-tier deliciousness. The actual diving was fair, but nothing compared to say the Andaman Sea in Thailand or other 'world class' dive spots.

People were fairly polite and friendly about 90% of the time (I speak some spanish so that probably helped), you don't really get accosted by touts like you do in lots of other touristy places which was nice. I never really felt unsafe, even in downtown San Juan at night, but that has more to do with being a large male with situational awareness and street smarts than anything.

All in all, I wouldn't go back unless someone else was paying for it. There are more interesting places in the world
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>>1327900
Safer by Latin American standards. You can just feel it in the air there (vs. other countries in the region).
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>>1327982
Ecuador should be lower than that, they're down to 6 per 100k homicide rate
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>>1327982
there are a lot of qt Honduran girls where I live
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how is brazilia? Im an architect and would love to see brazilia and curitiba
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>>1329082
+Most attractions are for free (including the visit for National Congress and Itamaraty -MFA- Palace)
+ It's unique, I must admit
+Touristic area are virtually harmless for the average tourist.
+Some waterfalls nearby (but don't go alone), you can go to Pirenópolis (oldest city of Centre-West)
+We have no problem with Uber (it's important, see cons)
+If it is your thing, you can go to Alto Paraíso, one of the biggest hippie hotspots in Brazil and try Santo Daime (ayahuasca tea). Somehow this is not illegal - but the taste is really, really horrible.
- Basically no hostels (only fucking two)
- The worst public transport of Brazil (which is bad by itself to begin with)
- In 2, 3 days you can do the most important places
- Don't come here if you want nightclubs. The scenario here is scroched earth.
Pic related, Dom Bosco Pizza, addicted as fuck, and how it must be properly eaten.
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Would one week be enough for Rio?

I see a lot of hate for Rio's Carnival here. Justified or not? Is the Carnival week something for a solo traveller?
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>>1328015
>>1327982
The description in the graph is confusing, and the Homicide rate is indeed off for some countries when you compare it to the original data. You should also take into consideration that the numbers are not really comparable, due to differences in definition and reporting of things that account for homicide. If you bother to read the report they say so on the first page.

tl;dr Countries like Haiti, Paraguay and USA should be much higher.
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>>1329910
The US is probably the only really reliable bit of data (I doubt many murders go unreported in the US).
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>>1329159
The only people who hate on Rio are Brazilian dicklets
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>>1307412
Is it just me, or are mexico and Guatemala the british isles of latin america? ie much uglier than their neighbors
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>>1330020
In what way? Women, scenery, or something else?
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>>1330106
Uglies
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>>1330166
Yeah. Mexico City has some lookers, but the rest and Guatemala does have mostly uggos.
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>>1330011
I am from france, got robbed there.
Not the best city to go my friend, kind of a criminal shithole.
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Avoid Rio and Sao Paolo like the plague. Buenos Aires is a must see.
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>>1329995
The less crazy Latin American countries are probably accurate too

It's funny (well, not really) reading the data for countries plagued by terrorist attacks claiming to have a murder rate of 1/100,000 k
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>>1330020
>>1330225

I don't know about that, there are a lot of Mexicans in the US from all over Mexico, and there are a decent amount of Guatemalans too, I find both to be pretty attractive on average, more so the former than the latter
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>>1324066

holy shit, I am literally gonna be in Santiago for january and february too lol

Idk why everyone is saying "oh go to valdivia", i'm just gonna hang out in santiago and be a gringo all day
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>>1309186
It's mostly the white Brazilians who act this way, in their minds it's an attempt to make foriegners relate to them while disassociating with the people of their own nation. This is how it works in most South American nations but it's most notable in Brazil.

t. someone who studied Portuguese abroad in Florianopolis BR, then remained in South America to backpack for a few more months
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>>1307429
>Santiago sucks
why the fuck would you go there?
all the fuckers from Santiago come to Viña in the summer, and most tourists go to the north or the south
(south>north, in my honest and local opinion)
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>>1307714
>how much time should I spend in Santiago?
the least possible. You should go to Valpariso and Viña while in the middle zone of the country (they're both together and like 2~3 hours away from Santiago if you ride a bus)
then just go to the south part like>>1309178 said, great beer, nicest people and awesome landscapes
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Quick because I don't wanna start another thread: I've been to Mexico City a bunch of times and know where to get everything but decent hookers. Any tips? Picking one up off the street or through Whats is what I was thinking.
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>>1327982
I hope you realize 2012 was 5 years ago. Almost 6.
Update your data.
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>>1332402
Btw. The only South American countries I'd consider safe are Chile and Ecuador.
All the others have no go areas.
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>>1332404
Here is another one. Less in depth but more countries.
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>>1332404
Based Ecuador
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>>1332404
There are places you really don't want to be in Ecuador and Chile.
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>>1332456
Equador has some very poor and dangerous areas.

I would like to see a map with crime rate, including robbery and assault.

Murder is bas but not the most common crime by any standard.
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>>1332478
I've actually been to Ecuador, the countryside looked pretty poor but overall the country looked fairly developed. Cuenca pretty much looks like a 1st world city.

And yes I think that robberies are more common than in developed countries, however not to the point where the country is unlivable. I think murder is the most important crime statistic, generally when there are less murders there are less types of other violent crime as well.
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>>1332456
Correct. But there vast majority of both countries can be traveled if you take basic precautions. Nobody's going to shoot you over a pair of shoes. They might pickpocket you if you are not paying attention in bigger cities, but that's no different from most of the US.
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>>1307815
chile is not as good as you think it is.
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My vote would be Uruguay!! I was there in 2012 and had a blast. Stable government stable economy and they legalized weed. Fun times and beautiful sights
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>>1332478
>>1332489
>>1332649
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>>1332752
Peru and Ecuador worse than El Salvador and Honduras? I find that very hard to believe
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>>1332790
not hard, maybe Maras have petty criminals at bay.
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>>1307412
Chile, Argentina, Uruguay - did that for a month with a friend and had lots of fun

>>1317617
Santiago by faaaaaaaar I loved Santiago so much
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>>1319473
>>1319476
Chile is safe but his advice is right

Santiago is very fun to get ensconced in but keep your wits about yourself - I think it's an underrated city. He's 100% right about Valpo tho I woulda gotten mugged if I didn't speak Spanish :P
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>>1319534
Day trip tier
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FUCK YOU!!! GET THE FUCK OUT WITH PICS OF GIRLS! THIS IS /TRV/ NOT PORNSHARE I WAS FUCKING 4 DAYS INTO NOFAP UNTIL I SAW THAT. THE PICTURE WOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT UNTIL YOU ALL STARTED TALKING ABOUT LATINA GIRLS. FUCK YOU ALL KEEP YOUR FUCKING MINDS OFF GIRLS HERE.

Honestly some people come here to get their minds OFF that shit and it doesn't help when you shove it down our throats. Now I feel fucking guilty for fapping because you just had to fucking make traveling sexual. Fuck YOU!
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>>1320298
the Ruta de Paz from Gotera to the border with Honduras is worth it if you're already in country.
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>>1333179
Calm the fuck down, you RealSexTouristᵀᴹ
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>>1325658
>there are better brothels

Care to elaborate?
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posting in this bread since its not worth starting one over. I want to go to mexico to visit a girl I know there in chihuahua chihuahua. I live in Houston and figured a bus would be best option. How unsafe is it for me? I would be with her most of the time and could tan before I go to not look too out of place. My dad thinks its too dangerous and wants me to bring her here but its fucking boring in my town and would rather party in Mexico.
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>>1307448
Those are few and far between.
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>>1333380
lol no they're not. I see Mexiqts every single day in New York
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>>1333626
I doubt those are Mexican, probably Colombian or Venezuelan or even Dominican. Mexicans tho, not that many in NYC.
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>>1334212
There are a fuckton of Mexicans in New York, you don't know what you're talking about

After Ricans and Dominicans, Mexicans are the next biggest group. There are several NYC neighborhoods like Mott Haven, Soundview Sunset Park, Corona, Jackson Heights, Bushwick, Port Richmond, etc. where you see a ton of Mexicans.
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>>1323964
You have to wear the swim trunks as well. What the fuck is up with that anyways?
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Anyone do any wine tours in Chile?
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>>1334283
https://www.conchaytoro.com/tour-wine-experience/

Free shilling but the wines and the vineyard are really good.
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hey y'all, I'm a white fairly wealthy euro 23 yo, gonna backpack from february til may next year. since its summer I'm thinking of starting in argentina and uruguay where its most like europe so I can get used to it (I've travelled extensively by myself in asia/australia/europe/usa but in safe places only so I wanna start off easy.)

then I'm just wondering is there really anything to do in south argentina/chile? I'm thinking of going through the middle where that famous wine growing region for a little bit then up to chile to santiago.

Then I guess I'm planning to spend a fair bit of time in bolivia/ecuador/peru since they're the safest and I'd love to chill up in the mountains and coast in peru.

Colombia and brazil after that but I'll probably avoid Rio. My father basically told me not to go there because he works with a lot of private security and insurance forms and the real crime/danger for whiteys in Rio like myself is apparently utterly appalling so I'll stay away (they have all the stats for people who've had to use insurance for robbery/kidnapping/etc during trips.) According to him its one of the worst places in south america for this outside of ghetto shitholes.

he hasnt' really done any of the research on the other cities in colombia or brazil but i'm guessing florianopolis would be good round then in may? and in Colombia should I go medellin and bogota and something else?
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>>1334658
>>1334658
In the southern hemisphere seasons are reversed so you'd be in fall approaching winter in Chile and Argentina, and it can in fact get quite cold, especially in the south. Now, as you go further north, seasons don't matter as much, especially on the equator.

Keep in mind however: Mountains can also get quite cold anywhere in the Andes especially as you go higher in altitude. The Pacific Coast can also get cold thanks to the effects of the Humboldt current and beaches south of Ecuador are not particularly warm during those months.

As far a your trip goes, you can indeed start in Argentina, go to Chile then up to the Andean Countries, Bolivia then Peru and end in Ecuador.

The three may seem similar on paper but they're quite different and you should be able to enjoy them, Bolivia allows you to see a country mostly run by Aymaras, a bunch of Inca and pre-Inca ruins, and a few natural wonders, then Peru, which whereas very centralized in Lima and its surrounings,stilll has a lot to see from Machu-Pichu to many other historical buildings, from all eras of the country, then Ecuador is great, you may go to the Galapagos if you have the money, then you can see a bunch of surfer towns on the continental coast , and also some party beaches if that's your thing. Then in the Andes you can find lots of nice towns and cities to both rest and have fun, if you want modernity you may go to Quito(which also has a great historic centre) or even Guayaquil, and Cuenca is gorgeous in most respects. The scenery anywhere in the andes is breathtaking. And if you want to go to the Amazon lots of tours in Quito which isa good base to see lots of things in Ecuador.

From there Colombia seems doable, stick to the Andes and you'll be fine. I have no idea abut Brazil so I have no help there.

tl.dr. It can get cold, so be aware, nevertheless it's still very much worth it, in fact it would be my preferred time to do it.
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>>1335584
I went high up in the mountains in Ecuador and it was breathtaking indeed

Those roads are fucking scary though
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>>1307412
May be this is a cliche question, but how easy is it to score cocaine in columbia? Whats the safest method of scoring it?




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