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I can't see one so i'll make this thread.

I'd like to go to China for my summer vacation, I've been before so i know what its like, and i have been studying mandarin so i want to put it to use.

But aside from the obvious major tourist sites, which ive already been to, what can i actually do there? How are the hostels, i can't afford hotels the entire time, and what can i really do day to day?

I have a few online chinese friends i could meet but i cant just permanently hang with them. (also how do i know if they want to fuck, i am a little autistic with women). I don't just want to go and then end up on my laptop in my room all day, but i can't figure how to spend 3 months there either.

In short, what to do in China?

Picture is a meme don't get your panties in a twist.
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watch serpenza's videos on the china topic
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>>1398373
I have, i already know how China is, he isn't a tour guide though.
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The question stands for anywhere really. What do you do on a day to day basis when visiting a country for a while?
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im going in the summer for two months to changsha. Gonna get that yellow pussy 60 times
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>>1398381
hunan is bestnan
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>>1398366
>cultural preservation
Yeah, throwing people off buildings because they kept their pre-Revolution furniture definitely preserved something.

>>1398379
Eat, shit, get closer to death.

In OP's case, learn more chingchongpotatospeak, talk with chicks, screw as many girls as possible, and get arrested by the police for immoral behaviors.

>>1398381
Your dick is going to get twisted sideways tho.
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>>1398366
>China
>Equality
>Cultural Preservation
kek
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>>1398366
you can do nearly anything in china you can do in america, but you'd need to be conversant or fluent in chinese obviously

china is a great country because you can basically do anything you can do back home other than get shot by a nigger or dress nicely and not get your shoes completely fucked up on a casual stroll
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How accessible is the mainland sex industry to laowai who don't speak Chinese?
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>>1398373
Can anybody PLEASE explain to me why people like and recommend this guy? He is complete garbage. Why would anybody listen to him for advice? He seems to be everything wrong with people who become permanent expats in China. If somebody who acted and thought and lived like him came onto /trv/ he would be ripped to shreds. His friends are even worse.
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>>1398444
get ready to get scammed

>>1398447
he literally nearly got killed in south africa, got to china, and complains about racism against blacks

fuck, I hope they kick him out and he gets killed back in africa
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>>1398447
What's so bad about him in your opinion?

>inb4 serpentaz pls go

I barely know the guy, but you seem to be pretty angry about his existence, I just want to know why.
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>>1398483
his income depends completely on placating his subscribers. if you cant see that this automatically distorts the things he says you're not very bright

his daily life stuff is accurate enough but he has a poor grasp of chinese history/politics (but he loves commenting on it.) bad as in, I doubt he's even read a single book on it. you can read a library and still be bad. he's capital B bad at it

in addition, despite nearly getting killed by blacks he thinks the chinese are racist against them unfairly
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I wonder if there's still alot of smog in the air. I've heard that over in Beijing it's starting to get worse each year. So why is that now?
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>>1398494
it clears out a bit in the summer

but it'll take another 8 years or so for there to be relatively little smog
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>>1398483
He can be okay, like when he does daily life videos (what to eat for breakfast, what a supermarket is like) but the majority of his stuff is sensational clickbait made to pander to anti-china westerners/americans who think that liveleaks videos are indicative of Chinese daily life.

He is at least better than somebody like laowhy though.
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>>1398498

That's true, I have a few friends that are living over there right now. Although hopefully their handling the air quality okay though. They might have to wear like those smog masks for quite a while still.
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>>1398366
I live in Hong Kong, expet and get my multiple vist visa soon, where should I go, money isn't an issue, time is, I don't want to go anywhere which takes more than 6hrs to get to, open to fly.
Ideally I'd like to visit some villages.

Seriously is there anything to see in China, I have seen countless Buddist temples and Asian shit over multiple countries over multiple years, only autism in me would like to see some military parades and changing of the guard.
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>>1398447
his observations aren't really that bad. his daily life videos is basically what joey english teacher will experience. most teachers here are garbage just like him and act like him.

if you are a bit smarter you can figure out that his problems are shit you run into if you are dumb.

also his fucking "i bought a suit and people treat me differently" is hilarious.
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>>1398447
he speaks in english
is white
is in mainland china posting on youtube
posts regularly
speaks in simple english
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>>1398366
>How are the hostels, i can't afford hotels the entire time, and what can i really do day to day?
International youth hostels are usually fine, there do exist Chinese youth hostels which are generally nothing more than dorm rooms and have little socialising etc. These are often run by hotels who just treat it as a business model for people who can't afford full rooms and not the kind of lifestyle that YHA etc sort of are.


>>1398381
>im going in the summer for two months to changsha
You want Hawa, at least to start with. Maybe Helen's for less mixing with expats, foreign students and English teachers. Helen's get's a bit of that but it's way more Chinese, so better for picking up maybe. The epicentre of social life is Crave, a sandwich deli/cafe/bar. That's where expats start partying most nights.

>>1398494
>I wonder if there's still alot of smog in the air. I've heard that over in Beijing it's starting to get worse each year. So why is that now?
Not all of the smog is actually smog. I live north of Beijing and it's dust storms/sand storms from the deserts up here. Sometime's it's smog of course but often the bad air is dust and sand.

>>1398512
You should get air purifiers inside too. Once you have a couple in your apartment quietly cleaning, you suddenly wonder what everyone is complaining about. I used to care more about the air and now I have to remember that most teachers don't have as nice air quality as my apartment. Most of my expat friends have gotten them now and suddenly nobody really complains about the air anymore, we just sometimes put a mask on to go places on bad days but nobody is coughing all the time or anything.


>>1398532
>Ideally I'd like to visit some villages
That doesn't sound very hard to do. If you really want something like that, there's an old village near Naning which is kind of famous. I'm sure you can fly to Naning from HK or Shenzhen Bao'an airport, should be within six hours I think.
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When are you going OP? Ill be in Beijing/Shanghai in the first week of June.
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>>1398581
I'll start in Shenzhen but i dont know where i'll go after, probably visit Chengdu.

I think the key is to find one activity to do every day, or one person to hang out with every day.
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>>1398447
He's alright, my problem with him is he spends most of the time complaining about China and then tacs on BUT CHINA IS GREAT at the end.

Laowhy86 is better, more down to earth and funny, even if his wife looks like a seamonster.
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>>1398603
im not sure if you mean thats him or his wife, could be both
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>>1398532
How did you get to be expat in HK?
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People who have been to PEK Terminal 3 in the past few weeks:

Is there a China Unicom stand or shop there now?


(I know there used to be shops, but they seemed to be closed a few months back. The latest info would be much appreciated, I'm going there in a few days, and will have very little time, looking to spare every minute I can.)
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>>1398601
I actually think his wife is a cute
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>>1398506
>>1398490
I'm not in any way in his favor btw I was just wondering why there are people who are so angry at him.
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>>1398791
Neither of the people you are quoting are angry, or have typed in a way that would indicate anger.
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>>1398797
the previous guy had done so and some of the people here do seem angry at him.
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Is it possible to drive and then get a ferry over to hainan from Guangzhou?
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>>1398840
Driving as a tourist is a hassle, generally speaking if youre American or Western you arent allowed to drive on your own in China
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How do i go to Tibet?

I am trying to google it but its all political bullshit.
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>>1398900
>Driving as a tourist is a hassle
This is true

> generally speaking if youre American or Western you arent allowed to drive on your own in China
This is bullshit.
You have to get a local license, it's not really that hard. FWIW: Haikou is considered a very easy place to get a license. It has very light traffic, mostly large good roads, completely flat. It's a hard place to fail a test and you can do it in English.

You can indeed take cars on the ferry. IN HAIKOU, I met an amerifat (actually skinny) who was an engineer in Shenzhen, he had bought a little van (what we call mianbaoche, bread vans because they're shaped like a loaf of bread) and drove it around, whoring all over China and when he couldn't find a hostel or hotel somewhere, he slept in the back of it. He'd been all over the place in it and now he was in Haikou. I believe you just drive up to the ferry terminal and pay some money and get on a ferry. I took a bus back from Haikou to Guangzhou and that went on the ferry too, we all had to get off the bus and hang out on the ferry deck for a few hours before getting back on the bus at the other end.
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>>1398947
It's not easy but it's also not that hard.
Arguably the easiest way is to go to Kunming or Chengdu and stay in a hostel there. Then ask the hostel to hook you up. They'll call their buddy's travel agency and you'll get booked into a group tour which is the only official way to do it.

Of course whether you stay with that tour group when you get there is up to you but be careful straying too far from acceptable tourist areas or you might be mistaken for an under-cover journalist.
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>>1398490
>in addition, despite nearly getting killed by blacks he thinks the chinese are racist against them unfairly
The Chinese are extremely racist against black people. That is a factual claim.
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>>1398978
But only white people can be racist, muh'tumblr told me this
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>>1399025
It's part of your white privilege
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>>1398790
You just don't have an eye for Chinese girls. You will develop one if you go there for a while.
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I've got a few questions about the tourist visa. From what I have read it looks like the tourist visa lasts for 30 days. Is there any way I can stay longer then that? How? If I leave on say the 15th day and go to hong kong or something, can I reenter and use the rest of my 15 other days? How long until I can get another tourist visa? Can I extend it? Could I theoretically get one and then get another?
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>>1398976
Ok, how do i do this without being scammed and murdered as the autistic retard that i am.
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>>1399150
I simply requested mine to be 90 days and they gave me it, no questions asked.

You can reenter if they give you a multiple entry visa, which they usually do.
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>>1399159
how did you request it? In your application?
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>>1398366
Go to Chengdu, it's awesome. All the hostels are full of great staff and even locals too who come just to meet foreigners. When I went one local even bought me a meal at a local place (best food ever too).

Where are you planning to go in China, OP? It's a big country, I personally really like the south though.

There's also plenty of hiking to do in Yunnan. Really recommend going to different cities and rural towns there for hiking, but not Lijiang. Look at travel guides for the cities or provinces you go too, you'll have no problem finding an excess of stuff to do, guanteed. Personally I recommend rough guides' China.
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>>1399186
I was planning to go to Shanghai to go visit my uncle that's living there right now. I've heard there's a lot of things to do in the city but I'm not too sure about what and where the best tours are though. I was wondering if by any chance you have any great suggestions for me, that would be really appreciated.
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>>1398473

huh. I've never heard him complain about the racism against nig nogs in China, just merely pointing it out at best. In fact it's pretty clear he hates blacks, kek. All the black youtubers cry about what a racist he is.
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>>1399156
>Ok, how do i do this without being scammed and murdered as the autistic retard that i am.
They won't scam or murder you. They'll just take your money and send you on a package tour.

Start off in a hostel, they're way more trustworthy than picking a travel agent at random.
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>>1399076
If anything. Coming to China cured me of yellow fever.
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>>1398366
>>1398379

Last year I went on a trip to china
I arrived to bejing via vienna-dubai.

In bejing I went to see the great wall, the forbidden palace, old summer palace

After that I went with a train to shanghai. That was pretty good, I went on a boat trip at night when I arrived to see old and new shanghai from the river. I also checked the shanghai tower which is a must see, the nanjing road, the yu garden

From this I went with a train to Xian. I checked the great mosque of xian it is a must see, the muslim market, the terracotta army. It was like in hell because we had 48 celsius even one day.

From there I went with a train or a bus I dont really remember now to Chengdu. There is checked the panda centre, watch out that during summer 90 percent of the pandas are inside because of the heat and you wont see them. Also I went with a bus to check the leshan buddha that is really jaw dropping.

From chengdu I went to tibet. Damn that security chack in chengdu airport was fucking brutal

>>1398438
>other than get shot by a nigger
This. I felt more safely than at home

>>1398444
I dont know really, every single hotel I visited gave me some cards with the local whores but i didnt check them

>>1398494
last year during summer it was bad mainly in beijing. I was able to watch the sun and my eyes didnt hurt, but I had no problem with breathing

>>1398947
You will need a permit and a local guide from tibet. It can be done usually by a travel agency
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I'm going to be spending some time in Beijing and Shanghai soon. I was looking at other places to go in a future trip, if I enjoy it.

Has anyone gone to Hong Kong/Macau/Guangzhou/Shenzhen/Zhuhai? I'm sure many here have been to just Hong Kong, but I'm curious about the region more broadly. How much time would be needed to get something out of it?
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I booked train tickets through Travel China Guide. They say that tickets are released 28-30 days from the day of the train. That was 2-4 days ago and they still haven't contacted me. They said if I won't be in the country for collection, I should give them the Hostel address.
When I booked my hostel they emailed me asking if I'd like to be picked up from the airport.
I said yes and told them to hold on to tickets for me. They never responded to me on either points.
Getting a tad concerned now. Any advice on this?
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I recently travelled to HK, Shenzhen, Guilin/ Yangshuo.

Rent mopeds if you go to Yangshuo and go out of the town into the countryside where the orange farms are and you can just wonder about anywhere enjoying everything
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Going to Kunming for a month to improve my Mandarin. Any impressions or recommendations from people who've visited previously?
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>>1399321
>I dont know really, every single hotel I visited gave me some cards with the local whores but i didnt check them
You'd need to speak some Mandarin, they sure won't speak English.
Sometimes they call your room directly though, you could probably tell them to come up.

>>1399353
>Getting a tad concerned now. Any advice on this?
You booked the tickets in your name obviously, you can always just pick them up at the station if nothing else works out. Write the hostel's number down and call them from the airport if you can find a way. That's something they'll probably fuck up and you'll need to take the metro or whatever but see if they can make it work first.

>>1399413
>Going to Kunming for a month to improve my Mandarin. Any impressions or recommendations from people who've visited previously?
I like the Hump hostel in the middle of the city, excellent location but you won't use Mandarin much there. There's some more Chinese ones further out that aren't as packed with foreigners.
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Going to China for ~3 weeks. Beijing, Nanjing, Shanghai and Hangzhou. I've already been to Chengdu.
How accessible are metros and trains for a Big Nose like me? I don't speak/read a single word of Mandarin. Any pro tips?
>tfw going to China with your mom
No pussy for me. Lucky me, I'll be able to preserve my eternal virginity ;_;
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>>1399484
How is your relationship with your mum? How old are you?
I reckon I could manage to get laid in your circumstances. When you need a bit of space from each other, let her know you're going out for the night and night not be back until the morning.
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US Chinese girl
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Ordinary Chinese girls look like this to me. They are almost all the same. Boring.
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>>1399484
>Beijing, Nanjing, Shanghai and Hangzhou
If you can't get laid in Shanghai, then you don't WANT to get laid. The club scene is active and girls don't think anything of picking up a foreigner, they're not a novelty there but there are lots of girls who like them and they know they won't get called a slut for going home with one (ask your mother to go out or something). If nothing else, you could go out for an hour and visit a massage parlour, they're everywhere in Shanghai. Just look for a shop front with a woman in skimpy clothes sitting there waiting.

Metros are entirely accessible in Beijing and Shanghai and the ticket machines have an English option. Nanjing has limited metro lines, you'll probably be using taxis there. Hangzhou doesn't have one at all I don't think.

Nanjing will probably be the high point of your trip, it's much nicer than Beijing and Shanghai, Hangzhou is nice too but Nanjing has more. The Sun Yet Sen tomb is amazing.
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>>1399341
Living in gz. Can’t really recommend it. Hk has its charm and unique feeling but gz and sz is basically just humid hot and crowded. Unless you’re hardcore into dim sum and darker skin I’d just skip it.
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>>1399571
>How is your relationship with your mum?
I'd say 4 out of 10. We're family, that's all.
>How old are you?
26. I know that's a bit old to still be a virgin, but it's due to me being socially retarded. At least, up until this year. Now I'm trying to better my life and it's going really well. I have a new job and am much more talkative. That doesn't sound like much, but it was a major hurdle for me. One of my milestones this year is to get laid. I guess it isn't really a physical barrier, but more of a mental one.
>>1399673
Good to know that the metros are in English. I don't like taxis, especially in China.
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>>1399673
The club scene sucks ass and it's usually mostly foreigners. the chink girls go to chinese style clubs where they sit down in tables with their rich boyfriends. try getting into that scene as a foreigner... good luck.

there's nothing special about being foreign in shanghai anymore. the city is full of thirsty europoor and russian male model tier chad students and illegal english teachers and the occasional rich businessmen dating or chasing after ugly as shit girls. the girls all have high standards now similar to the west.
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>>1399673
Hangzhou has a metro now, but the lines are limited.

Just set up a DiDi account.


How do you get girls who arent club sluts, i dont like clubbing.
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>>1399739
>How do you get girls who arent club sluts,
Most of the English teachers I know are dating or married to English-speaking Chinese staff. Their assistants or managers or similar.

Otherwise...how do you get girls in your own country?
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>>1399744
I don't, i hate British women, i only get with foreign women.

I have spoken to some Chinese women online who want to meet up with me. Do you think they want it, or to just improve English?
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help >>1398682
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>>1399747
>I don't
Well, there you go then.
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>>1399747
>Do you think they want it, or to just improve English?
The answer to that question is: Yes. Plausible deniability for both.
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>>1399747
>Do you think they want it, or to just improve English?
I've seen gold diggers, but it sounds fucking sad if your only redeeming factor in life is your native language...
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>>1399818
Don't get your meaning.
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Thinking of doing my first solo tripo in November to China and Vietnam/Japan for a couple of months.
Have about 4k € saved and thinking of doing hk, yangshuo, suzhou, chengdu, hangzhou and maybe beijing. Is this too much? Also thought of going to dive in qingdao lake, is it worth it? Also appreciate any recomendations and tips
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Greedy china gorillas
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>>1399842
this sounds like an awesome trip desu, if you have a few months, it's def doable, and you might even find some more stuff to see on the way.
you can backpack forever on that money in china if you take buses or slow trains, however you want to check out the hsr once.
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>>1399842
>qingdao lake
Qingdao has a lake?
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>>1400013
I meant qiandao
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>>1400126
fake though man and its not like the chinese will let you swim
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What do you think about doing 1 to 1 private tutoring in China, teaching English of course. I have no teaching experience but i think it might be fun?
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Planning to head to Lijiang for 6 days this following week, any advice?
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>>1400543
just be yourself :)
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>>1400543
I've been there about 4 months ago. 6 days only for Lijiang is way too long imo. You could take a trip to the tiger leaping gorge and further north to shangrila which has a bit of a tibetian vibe.
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>>1399842
Replying to my own post to ask some questions:
I know some knowledge of mandarim would be helpful but is this trip feasible with english only? How much would it limit my options?
Also besides qiandao is there any cool place for diving?
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>>1400515
>What do you think about doing 1 to 1 private tutoring in China, teaching English of course. I have no teaching experience but i think it might be fun?
It won't be that fun but you can make a small amount of money that way.

>>1400791
>You could take a trip to the tiger leaping gorge and further north to shangrila which has a bit of a tibetian vibe
This. Then go to Dali on the way back.

>>1401094
>hk, yangshuo, suzhou, chengdu, hangzhou and maybe beijing
>is this trip feasible with english only
Chengdu is hard without English, the rest could probably be done. Have the addresses of the hostels printed in Chinese and get the hostel staff to order your train tickets etc for the next leg. Also to book your day-trips etc.
Beijing is easy, HK is easy. Yangshuo is easy but you have to get there which means a tourist boat trip (from Guilin which isn't on your list for some reason), that can probably be done with English, sign-language and calculators.

It limits your options because you're mostly reduced to what hostel staff will/can book for you and eating at restaurants becomes absolute guess work. At least have a translate app on your phone and you won't be too bad I guess.

I've been diving in Sanya but it was shit, the boats and other divers kick up all sorts of mud on the bottom and the 'instructors' are also completely shit, they really just want to work with Chinese and will give westerners a token dive without really doing anything. Also, Sanya's sea bed is quite littered and polluted, the water is filthy even at 10m.
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Are the laws for bringing a vehicle into China still draconian? Tentatively planning a trip this summer, and would like to ride through the northern provinces.
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>>1401368
>Chengdu is hard without English
why, isnt it a major tourist site?
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>>1398366
Anyone been to Fuzhou? What's it like?
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>>1401369
>Will a teaching degree, and willingness to sign a long contract be able to secure maybe.. 20000 rmb a month
That's possible in tier 1 cities though you need that money in those cities. I'm not 100% sure whether you could get that money in your first year but maybe.

DWIs? As in drink driving charges? Won't affect you I don't think. China has stricter drink driving laws than western countries and they're enforced but you probably won't be driving since cars are very expensive and anyway, electric scooters don't need licenses.

Look professional probably helps a bit but it's not as important as you'd think. Actual teaching degrees make more of a difference but you're talking about a three year degree for this? Or just a dip ed? Either way, it would help. Relevant degrees often earn more money than just random degrees and there are some kinds of jobs that you won't get with random degrees and a DELTA.

>>1401462
>isnt Chengdu a major tourist site?
No, it's A tourist site but not a major one. People are more likely to fly in on a package tour, be taken to a hotel then to the Tibetan quarter, then taken to see the pandas the next morning, then fly out. There's not a lot else to do there, or at least, not that much that people know about. There are some nice outdoors stuff in Sichuan province, big national parks and things but they're not big destinations. The hostels can hook you up though, I stayed at Dragon Hostel, it was pretty good.

>>1401486
>Anyone been to Fuzhou? What's it like?
I've been there once for two nights, it was ok but didn't make much of an impression on me. Has a big bar street on the river which looked pretty cool but I didn't hang out there. I remember some decently bad traffic but my taxi managed to cut through it ok, even when we got to the station and I had to turn around and go right back to the hotel for something I forgot. Some big shopping centres, the usual mid-range city stuff.

Wenzhou is a nicer city in Fujian.
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>>1401520
Well it should be okay for me, I've been chatting to a Sichuan tour guide girl whose offering to give me her entire tour for free.
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>>1400791
Agree on that point, we are staying there long due to a friend's relative living there, after which an additional 4 days at chong qing
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All right, I read about this 72-144 hour temporary visa that a handful of countries can get if they fly into certain airports and have onward travel for a third country. Has anyone on this board used this before to explore an approved area for 3-6 days? It sounds like a great layover idea and cheap way to explore a little of China.
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>>1401846
I literally just used that visa, extremely easy. Just make sure your booking is in line with what they want (aka no going back to the country you just flew in from), fill in the temporary visa application form when you arrive. NOT the yellow arrival card, but the white-blue one that's a bit bigger, bam.

Btw to all the people itt that told me hurr durr China great, China strong, etc. No, there were 0 working machines to get the Beijing transport card from at the airport, there was one manned counter, accepted no card payments obviously. Wasn't a problem for me, as I ended up bringing cash anyway, it's just I was hoping /trv/ would supply more relevant information...
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Taken from a thread I made earlier.

I have just recently signed on and agreed to join the teaching organization EF - English First, in the city of Hangzhuo.

I am curious to know if anyone here has had experience in this city and better yet, teaching there and if there would be any advice any anons could give me?

Just to echo what I said in the previous one, I have read some extraordinarily scathing reviews on EF which, another anon noted those happy of course don't leave reviews.

But for those of you who may have taught in English First in Hangzhou, could you tell me a bit about your experience there?

Also is there decent access to international European cuisine like Italian?
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>>1401888
That's awesome. Was there any cost to it?
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I'm arriving in Beijing on childrens day.
Will the city be quieter on the long weekend or is it going to be swarming with tourists from the country?
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>be in beijing several years ago
>at the only american style craft brewery in beijing at the time
>full of americans, comfy as fuck
>"take me home, country roads" comes on the speakers
>we all join in a singalong
>some tear up because we miss america

Was one of the comfiest experiences I've ever had abroad. Made me proud of my country
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>>1401530
>I've been chatting to a Sichuan tour guide girl whose offering to give me her entire tour for free
kek, see if she's interested in dating when you get there, if not then there's probably a catch and it's not really going to be free. If she really is just being friendly then maybe she'll just bring you along with another tour group but you will still need to pay admission to places (not that that's anything to complain about).

Some tours are free because you get shuffled through tourist shops and special traditional factories making jewellery or other shit, at ridiculously-inflated prices. Tea ceremonies that try to sell you special tea, stuff like that.

>>1401846
>72-144 hour temporary visa
>3-6 days
I've only ever seen 72 hours offered.

>>1402005
>I am curious to know if anyone here has had experience in this city
I've been there a few times, it's pretty around the lake and old town but just a regular big Chinese city otherwise. It has good support for expat lifestyles though, which mostly means a big supermarket full of imported goods (Metro). Quite a lot of western restaurants too, the place you'd hang out at is called The Vineyard, it does international cuisine, mostly American style food but you'd get acceptable Italian food there too, probably even good Italian food.

There are a lot of Chinese Italian restaurants around, it's probably the most popular foreign food after pizza and most pizza places will sell pasta too. You won't always consider it good pasta but there's enough around that you'll be able to find some you like.

I've heard mixed things about EF, there aren't really any English schools in China that don't fuck with their teachers to some degree, EF isn't the worst by any stretch but they're not the best either. I suppose all I can really say is that all the EF teachers I know, ended up getting better jobs elsewhere and not going back to EF but it wasn't bad enough for them to really lose their shit or anything.
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>>1402016
Uhm no?
Google it, there is literally 0 cost, it's not a visa per se, just a temporary entry permit stamp that you get.

>>1402397
Depends on the entry airport.
Eg. the Beijing one is 144 hrs. The Hangzhou-Shanghai one also long.
Most of the non-Shanghai ones don't let you leave the municipality, but eg. from Changsha airport you can tour whole Hunan.
They also differ on how they count the hours.
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>>1402397
Dunno, maybe. She's a private tour guide, we talk quite frequently. She's very sweet and always asks about my day and things. I will try to bone her, she's really hot, i don't want a relationship.

I've discovered this a lot trying to learn Chinese, a lot of female interest in foreigners. But i can't get their angle. Just wanna fugg
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>>1398432
Yeah. Whoever made this is a grade A moron
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>>1402437
who?

I know a claire zhang
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ugly
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>>1398438
A few things are different... China is smelly and filthy everywhere. You can not throw bath tissue in the toilet bowl, can’t you? You have to throw it away in opened trash box beside the bowl.

And Chinese food contains tremendous amount of food additive which causes cancer.
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>>1398438
A few things are different... China is filthy and smelly everywhere. You can not throw bath tissue into toilet bowl, can’t you? You have to throw it away in opened trash box nearby.

And Chinese food contains tremendous amount of food additive which cause cancer.
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>>1402764
>A few things are different... China is smelly and filthy everywhere. You can not throw bath tissue in the toilet bowl, can’t you? You have to throw it away in opened trash box beside the bowl.
You can flush it, i always flush it. They flush the shit tissues, the little bin is for tissues used for other things.
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>>1402431
>But i can't get their angle. Just wanna fugg
Chinese girls are ok with premarital sex but not generally with casual sex. Though it might not feel very casual if you're been talking a while.
What girls usually say about sex is:
>they want their first man to be their last man

So they really want the boyfriend their banging to end up marrying them and settling down forever. If she's sweet, hot, has a job and isn't an idiot, what are you complaining about anyway? Sounds like perfectly good relationship material.

>>1402589
Those comparison memes are rarely to be taken very seriously.

>>1402764
>You can not throw bath tissue in the toilet bowl, can’t you?
Any modern apartment will be fine, public toilets, probably not.
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>>1402970
No way, in China you can NOT flush it, because it’s not supposed to. You can do that just for a couple of times anyway, but eventually the toilet will be clogged.
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>>1401369
>20000 rmb a month?
LOL try half that.
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>>1402983
I'll fuck her and leave but then i'll feel pretty guilty. She is sweet, hot and hard working but she's never left china and is thoroughly chinese in attitude. She's not even one of those chinese whose into western things, she wont eat sandwiches. I found out she recently bought her own house though, she's pretty well off.
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>>1402987
I flushed tissues in the same apartment for 8 months, never had a problem blocking it except for when i did a massive shit ,which blocks toilets back home too.

I do massive shits. Like foot long and baseball bat wide.
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>>1401369

20,000 RMB a month would be on the lower end, so possible. Do not expect high end classrooms and do not expect long term contracts.
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>>1398366
planning on going there for 2 weeks on june 15
doing:
>hong kong
>guiyang
>chengdu
>jinhua/suzhou/hangzhou that general area
is it possible in 2 weeks?
also wanna see some rural villages
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2 months in changsha, what do
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>in beijing for 3 days excluding day i fly in and day i get the train out
>want to see tiannamen square, forbidden city, summer palace and great wall
I'm going to be fucking exhausted aren't I
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>>1402987
>in China you can NOT flush it,
Absolute arguments about a rapidly developing country with the highest population in the world. Use caps to ensure people trust you.
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>>1403369
>20,000 RMB a month would be on the lower e
In Beijing or Shanghai yes, everywhere else. No.
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>>1403637
How unfit are you that you cant see 4 places over 3 days?
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>>1403637
You can see all of those things in 1 day you fat fuck.
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>>1403013
There quite a few eastern european trophy wives in the Chinese city I'm in. Young, rich Chinese men sometimes get them, maybe picking up foreign students etc.
The three that I know of, one guy is a bank manager, another is a corporate exec and the third is basically a trust-fund baby who wants to be some sort of internet celebrity but is really just a blogger who writes Chinese copies of popular English blogs.

Their girlfriends are pretty hot though, all model-tier girls.
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>>1403570
>2 months in changsha, what do
Geez, there's not THAT much to do in Changsha.
There's a nearby karst landscape national park which is worth seeing and a few Mao tourism things (he came from near Changsha and spent some time there).

There are a handful of things to see in Changsha but not really that many.
>>1403637
>tiannamen square, forbidden city, summer palace and great wall
Great Wall is a day trip by itself because it's outside the city, any tour you join up with will include one of the Ming Tomb sites as well.
The other three can be done in one day, no problem. Tiananmen Square isn't really something to see particularly, you just walk through it on the way to the Forbidden City, assuming you don't care about seeing Mao's tomb. Even then, that isn't a detour either, it's just at the other end of the square from the city.

>>1403722
>>20,000 RMB a month would be on the lower e
>In Beijing or Shanghai yes, everywhere else. No.
That's about right.

>>1403732
>You can see all of those things in 1 day you fat fuck.
Nah, it's pretty impossible to see any major site in the same day that you see the great wall.
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I have an internship in beijing for a month in june/july, staying in chaoyang

Any decent wechat groups or party areas I should know before i go?
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>>1403917
I would avoid Chao-yang like the plauge. It's one of the centres for organ harvesting.

watch out at party areas too, your drinks can get spiked very easily. Bouncers are often in on it.
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>>1403936
Staying near Arts 798 zone, would it still be super shitty there?

Ive heard that the clubs around workers stadium and sanlitun are basically westernised and full of foreigners, never heard about organ harvesting..
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>>1403948
I don't know too much about the Arts 798 zone, I am afraid. Lots of the trafficking is through westernised parts. Westerners are deemed healthier than the locals. Also when someone goes missing it is easier for things to get lost in translation, play it off as if they have gone elsewhere for tourism.
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>>1403951
i sent in my visa and asked for ten years
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>>1403722
I have no idea why you would want to live anywhere else in China aside from Shanghai.
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>>1403917
>Any decent wechat groups or party areas I should know before i go?
Beijing has so many expats that there's less of a 'scene' than other cities but if you want to hook up with some (in the sense of hanging out) then there's an Irish pub opposite the Australian Embassy which both has good western food (not that you'd get sick of Chinese food in two months) and is a popular hang-out.

Beijing isn't like most Chinese cities in that there are plenty of expats who aren't teachers but are diplomatic staff, journalists, civil servants, UN aid workers, corporate representatives in the Beijing office, salespeople, basically any profession that involves travel is probably represented.

Ignore >>1403936 Chaoyang is a big place and most of it is fine, it's a high crime area for China but it's still way better than a bad neighbourhood in wherever you're from. Just don't be stumbling around drunk at 3am by yourself in a dark alley because if someone is going to mug a foreigner, that's how it would happen.
Your organs are going to be fine but I wouldn't leave with one of the street walkers on the corners of Sanlitun, that could be anything but is probably not going to be a good experience even if it's just what it appears to be.
Your liver might not be fine if you drink alone in cheap bars, you're going to get counterfeit alcohol and that can knock you out without even being meant to. Drink in more reputable places and drink in company. Those cheap bars with the 2for1 specials in Sanlitun try all sorts of scams once you're in, telling you that you misunderstood the special, that it's really buy 2 get 1, that it doesn't apply to what you ordered, that sort of stuff. You're fine if you're in a group because you can just put down your drinks and threaten to walk out and they'll back down. But half of it would be fake anyway.
btw Fake alcohol is impure industrial ethanol with flavouring, it's very rough stuff.

I also don't know anything about Arts 798.
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You really want a China girl? Some of them are in my town but they all look like ugly gorillas or dumplings made by mud.
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>>1404279
I work with two Chinese girls in their late 20s. Both are very nice. One is pretty, the other isn't. I wouldn't make generalisations
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>>1404279

>country with the largest population
>hurr durr there's two of them in my town and they're not hot
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>>1403570
weekend trips to zhangjiajie national park (hostel inside the park!!)
tianmenshan maybe, zjj np is better.

there is a list of all their local special foods on the changsha city official gov website, make it a mission to try them all.
something not listed is the pork belly fried rice in a steamed pasta wrapper sold at bao stands, my fave sandwich-substitute.

at changsha west bus station there was this english guide/translator who is just thuere to help you buy tickets and not get lost at the station BUT he seemed to have an infinite amount of information about whole of hunan, best sides of villages to stay in, that sort of stuff. if you see 'sam' there, say hi. his english was a awkward af (don't tell him that), but he knows his stuff really well, and got his info across effectively.

mao stuff, there is a village close to changsha, too...

hang out with locals, changsha people are chill.

that island on the river is low key pointless, but might be a good running place when pollution is low.

survive higher pollution days in the yuelu mountain park.

hot pot till you die.

hsr to wuhan or somewhere south on weekends.

there is also some park on the northeast that has that fucking high glass bridge which is funn.

again, hunan is just chill, just talk with locals for a bit, they will share some good food and drinks and some stories.
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Alright /trv/ I need your advice.
I'll be arriving in Beijing around midday on a Friday. I leave in the morning the following Tuesday for other parts of China.
I want to see Tiananmen square, the forbidden city, the summer palace, and the great wall. If I have time there is other stuff, but those I don't want to miss.
Obviously a weekend isn't ideal but I have my reasons.
Any tips on how best to approach this to minimise crowds? E.g what days and what times? Which has the worst crowds, so by extension, should I do that on the Monday? Likewise, would doing Tiananmen square and/or forbidden city on Friday afternoon (depending what time I check in) be feesible? My hostel is lile a block away from it.
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>>1404323
>that island on the river is low key pointless, but might be a good running place when pollution is low.
On the nights they do fireworks, it's good.
Changsha is the source of a lot of fireworks in China, they have big shows on the island about once or twice a week.

Changsha is also famous for stinky tofu, it's better than it sounds but it won't blow your mind or anything.
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>>1398447
Regular guy, down to earth, good production, interesting (sometimes clickbaity) topics. He does things 'on site' and has produced 2 movies. His channel is successful, but not overly and with the masses, he has an interesting partner and their series ADVChina is also successful.

>>1398490
>he's successful that's why I think he's wrong
>he speaks the language and talks to the people but western (((books))) are the true source of knowledge

>>1398601
If you haven't lived in a commie shithole nation you can't comprehend what he means. I live in one. I say that about my country all the time. It's a sad state of existence, but we manage. They're both fine in my eyes, as I see them as a pair, they're good friends and associates.

>>1398473
he can't openly do it against blacks, the ZA situation is very tricky, I mean people are openly talking about white genocide there and the west doesn't seem to care
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>>1404164
I hate faggot laowais like you.
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>>1404550
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Can I get a basic gestalt on English teaching in China? I'm currently on JET, and I don't particularly want to return home yet, but I am starting to get really sick of Japan.

Is there a JET equivalent in China? How is English teaching more generally - what's the pay like, working conditions, really major differences between Japan and China I should be aware of, etc?

Obviously I'm gonna do a lot more research before making a final decision, but I just wanted to see what some anons had to say.
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>>1404752
Sorry for shilling this, but I am a part owner of a school in Shanxi, China. It's not in a big city, but its in a decent sized, comfy city. $2000 a month at min, rent free. 23 hours a week (mostly weekends). Let me know if you're interested. I'm not a recruiter, and I'd rather get an anon from the same board(s) I frequent. (you).
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Anyone know the for sure way to get video calling back on facebook messenger on this faggot censored internet

I took my chink sim card out for about a full 24hrs and magically, the call and video call buttons appeared back in messenger that were previously blocked by 'not available in your area' filter bullshit that applies to some countries, the options went away when the card was put back in

I tried uninstalling and reinstalling only after USA vpn in connected, option is still not there, uninstalled/disabled all facebook shit for a fresh install over vpn, still some cookie setting blocking the option, idk what waiting a day does....

is that what i need to do everytime to use video calling facebook messenger? take out the sim card and wait?
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>>1405225
Can you sort work visas?
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>>1404452
Ive spent enough time in china in small cities to know what its really like.

My point is more that the guy just seems to spend most of his videos complaining, yet still wants to live there and such. Its just weird, don't move somewhere and then endlessly whine about it. I whine about the UK but im from here, i dont go to china and whine about the squat toilets or retarded random laws, i might complain if i have been inconvenienced, but i don't whine, there is a difference.
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>>1405225
how long you gonna be there for?
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>>1403731
>>1403732
>he thinks i meant physically exhausted
Are you retarded?
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>>1405226
never had that problem but I also don't use fb

either your vpn sucks or you need to stop being addicked to mark kikerberg like a faggot slave
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I am moving to Ningbo in july, any anons been or live there?
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Will major sites in Beijing be better mid afternoon on a weekday or early in the morning on a weekend?
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>>1405361
>I am moving to Ningbo in july, any anons been or live there?
I've been there and I'm jelly. It's maybe my favourite place in China.
Ningbo is comfy as fuck, it's not a big westernised city so it's pretty Chinese but it has just enough stuff to feel at home when you want to.
It has a Metro (costco-style supermarket for imports) which will have almost anything you want from home, the bar area at Lao Waitan is sweet and has some really great cocktail bars (I think I went to Galaxy, it had perfect Singapore Slings). There's an Irish pub which is the main expat hangout, their long island iced teas are great and they do good pizza, steaks etc.

I was there during typhoon season when it got a little bit hammered but that's rare and even then, they just shut shops for two days and it was fine.

It has a fair bit of cultural stuff around and lots of things nearby to see. Take a ferry out to Putuoshan and see the island there some time. It's also a stone's throw from Shanghai so you can go there for anything else you'd want to buy or do.

>lao wai tan means old wharf, not foreigner area but it's sort of a foreigner area so people make jokes about that
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>>1405226
I guess their geo-location uses the phone number as well as the wifi.
You might try putting a US sim in, even if it's on roaming. That might work.
If you have a dual-sim phone, disabling the Chinese sim might do it too.
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>>1405286
>how long you gonna be there for?
Forever. Like everyone else.
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>>1405260
I sort work visas if you have the right documents.
>4 year degree
>Native English Speaking Country (non-native is ok, just a little bit more work)
>TEFL or similar
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>>1405312
what else can he mean
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>>1405778
>>4 year degree
What is this bullshit? Bachelors are 3 years
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>>1405802
>Bachelors are 3 years

what shithole do you come from where this is true?
3 Years usually are diplomas.

3 years for bachelors are usually only for continuous programs that have a masters period and even then not all programmes are like this
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>>1405778
I don't have the TEFL, but I can get it. Do you need the Master or the International cert?
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>>1405806
A standard bachelors degree is three years around the entire world. You are from the weird country, who the fuck spends 4 years on a basic degree.
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>>1405806
Oh its 4 years in the USA, haha what a fucking joke. They're milking you, its the same amount of credits.
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>>1405837
This, it's 3 years for the standard bachelors + another year if you do honours.
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>>1405848
>>1405837
so you can become a physician in 3 years?
I highly doubt that.

Same for lawyer.

Maybe for stemshitheads or garbage sociology degrees.
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>>1405848
>>1405841
>>1405837
btw - you guys are morons - no one gives a shit if your shithole Yuropeon garbage shithole has 3 years Bachelors Degrees - in Japan, Taiwan and Hong Kong most places asks for a 4 years degree so you'd still need that "Honors" (lel) degree.
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For those of you who have gotten work visas INSIDE China, that is the process like?

Do you need to go to your embassy or consultate and get your degree and documents authenticated there? Do they need original copies or are photocopies OK?
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>>1405802
>What is this bullshit? Bachelors are 3 years
>>1405806
>what shithole do you come from where this is true?
>3 Years usually are diplomas.
>3 years for bachelors are usually only for continuous programs that have a masters period and even then not all programmes are like this
You're both pointlessly aggressive and wrong with respect to various countries.
There are lots of bachelor degrees that are 3 years and lots that are 4 years. It depends on the country, the institution and the course.
Science degrees in my uni were 3 years but engineering in the same institution are 4 years. If a degree is something that often leads on to Ph.Ds etc then they're often 3 years with an option for an honours year. 4 year degrees are often ones that people rarely continue in, almost nobody does an engineering degree and then an honours year. Sometimes the university is pulling some shenanigans and the 4th year counts as an automatic honours year which is bullshit.

>>1405841
>Oh its 4 years in the USA, haha what a fucking joke. They're milking you, its the same amount of credits.
USA has a liberal arts first year, which is a really good thing for society since it means graduates know something more than just how to do a job. They also have a vague clue about history or art or philosophy too.

>>1405855
Medical and law degrees are generally only granted at masters level, sometimes business degrees too. The bachelor is either a lesser degree or doesn't even exist.

e.g. B. Psychology gets you a school counsellor or HR job but if you want to be a practising psychologist with a couch then you need a Ph. D.
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>>1405862
>For those of you who have gotten work visas INSIDE China, that is the process like?
I haven't but I know lots of people that do. If the school has the right connections, you visit immigration and a medical clinic and stuff, they take your documents and then you eventually get your documents back with a visa.
If the school doesn't have connections then they have to obey the law and they do the paperwork for you and you fly out to Hong Kong, go to the consulate or hand documents over to an agent, you party for three days in LKF while staying in a hostel, you collect your documents back with a visa and then fly back to the mainland.

Half the people staying in hostels in LKF are teacher on visa runs of one sort or another.
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So have western SJWs cried in outrage over the usage of laowai yet?
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Is Chinese going to be any easier to learn if I'm fluent in Japanese? I'm not fluent in Japanese but I'm pretty far along and plan to stick to it.
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>>1405857
>>1405940
>>1405855
Every single website merely asks for a bachelors degree and gives no statement of years required, and if 4 was the requirement there would be no Anglo teachers.
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>>1405802
>>1405806
>>1405837
>>1405841
>>1405848
>>1405855
>>1405857
>>1405940
>>1406035
Can you guys go be annoying autistic retarded faggots somewhere else and not shit up this thread?
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>>1405954
You will have some head start with the writing, but otherwise no.
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>>1406060
They'll do fine in Asia. This is their place to shine, where language barrier hides this fucking stupidity.
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>>1405954
Yes. If you had any Japanese skills you would know how similar the languages are compared to other language families. But seems you're talking out of your ass about your moonrune hentai screeching skills.
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>>1406069
I know about the similarities and the history behind them, but I imagine that hundreds of years of language evolution may have kind of fucked that up a bit.
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>>1406065
>You will have some head start with the writing, but otherwise no.
This except that the head start in writing will be a really, really big head start (assuming your Kanji is ok). That's arguably the hardest part of the language.
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>>1406087
>I imagine that hundreds of years of language evolution may have kind of fucked that up a bit
Japanese isn't really based on Chinese, they just have the same written system.
The spoken languages have only the faintest resemblances.
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>>1405460
Thanks I appreciate it, any more info you can give me would be greatly appreciated, what is your wechat.
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>>1405954
It depends how much you know Japanese, have you learned to write all the chinese characters? that may help. The meanings are also usually similar or related, which can help you, but it may also hinder you if one character means something completely different in japanese to chinese.
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>>1406176
>any more info you can give me would be greatly appreciated
I can't really tell you much more, I spent about ten days there, living in a Motel 168, I was basically trapped in the hotel for two days while the typhoon was going and lived off instant noodles.

Check the wikis, I think they've been updated recently. Apparently there's now two Irish Pubs, I think O'Riellys was the one I went to.
https://wikitravel.org/en/Ningbo
https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Ningbo

And Lonely Planet of course.

If you're teaching or studying then you'll meet other expats immediately who can tell you far more than I can. Apparently there's about 40,000 foreigners in the city though I only saw a handful at the pub and maybe none any other time.
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>>1406564
MY VISA IS STILL BEING PROCESSED. 4 DAYS IN

>10 years multiple entries
i want to go to tibet then nepal and go to a specific temple I read about in a book. I also want to see Ram Dass's eye surgery place in nepal?? Its a charity organization to fix altitude blindness for $8...
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>>1398366
chinese here

can only speak basic chinese but im good with english and hokkien

okay-ish with teochiew

hows the communication like there?
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>>1406573
I heard even just in a different province they speak different versions of mandarin with special words from their hometown.

Yes, you can be cussed out using Changsha dialect or wherever the fuck you are.
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>>1406732
was planning to travel to taiwan to visit a friend, then visit beijing and shanghai for the next 2 weeks
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>>1406568
>i want to go to tibet then nepal
I suspect that you can't enter Nepal from Tibet on a non-Nepalese/Chinese passport.

It's often the case that border crossings are only for people who are citizens of one side or the other, not all border crossings are open to everyone. In China, I don't think the Tibetan borders are open to non-locals. You should check to be certain though.

The easiest way is probably to do an organised trip from Kunming or Chengdu.
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>>1406732
>I heard even just in a different province they speak different versions of mandarin with special words from their hometown.
That's sort of true but most people only use that local dialect when they're talking to family, friends or local people.
E.G. People use it when shopping in a farmer's market but not when they're in a supermarket.

I can speak a little Shanxi dialect but I'd only use it with in-laws etc.

>>1406732
>Yes, you can be cussed out using Changsha dialect or wherever the fuck you are.
Cussing someone out is ruined if they can't understand it, people do that in official dialect.
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How awful would China be in the summer time? I will be visiting Peru on a subsidized trip with students (American school teacher) in early July. I was wondering what a month in China would be like? From July/August.
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>>1407038
The border with Nepal is open to everyone, it's a very popular tourist trail - Lhasa to Kathmandu. The border crossing is very close to the foot of Mount Everest.
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>>1407308
Kunming or Urumqi should be pleasant. or somewhere on the seaside.
My favourite part (Central China) is unbearably hot and humid for me at that time, then again, my favourite season is winter, so you might like it. Also the pollution should be low then. (No heating, holidays, rain.)
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>>1398473
>he literally nearly got killed in south africa, got to china, and complains about racism against blacks
>Being able to avoid generalizing is bad
back to pol
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>>1407312
How much do you think I would spend in a month in China enjoying food, beers out, and some regional travel to see cultural sites? Might do some light scouting to see if I want to spend some time working in China since I am already an accredited and practiced teacher stateside. Would only need to add on an English-teaching certification.

So the east side isn't too bad in summer time? I actually live in a hot and humid place in the U.S. From May until October its 90+ degree heat and 100% humidity so it wouldn't bother me too much as long as I can get some air conditioning to fight off heatstroke. I was also concerned about the air pollution too if I visited in the summer time, but its lesser then because of Monsoon season along the littoral?
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I'm going stay with my expat friend in China. She wants me to bring her some food stuff she cant get there - mostly dry stuff like noodles.
She wants cheese spread though. Can I bring a small jar or will they see it and begin a cavity search on me?
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>>1407312
>Kunming
Kunming is always pleasant, it's the only weather that happens there, mildly warm and dry.
It's called The Spring City for a reason.
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>>1407315
I could travel, living out of hotels most of the time, some hostels now and then. eating and drinking whatever I felt like, all on 10k RMB/month. That didn't include train tickets but they're not that expensive.
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>>1407315
>but its lesser then because of Monsoon season along the littoral?
If you're in monsoon territory, there's little air pollution, coastal winds keep it down well.
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>>1407551
>I'm going stay with my expat friend in China. She wants me to bring her some food stuff she cant get there - mostly dry stuff like noodles.
> She wants cheese spread though. Can I bring a small jar or will they see it and begin a cavity search on me?
Any packaged commercial stuff is fine. It's vaguely possible they might complain about brie or camembert because some weird rules came in about those but otherwise it's going to be no problem.
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>>1407551
>She wants me to bring her some food stuff she cant get there - mostly dry stuff like noodles.
wat
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>>1407551
She sounds retarded. Don't bring milk products into China. Only chance is shit in tubes or metal containers (don't ask, check some european airports).

If you really want to help her, tell her to get some help and use TaoBao.
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China is very nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak421XXlX_Q
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>>1407752
They are all cute. The China girls in my town are ugly and look like this.
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>>1405778
WHERE DID YOU GO? HOW CAN WE CONTACT YOU OFF-SITE?
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>>1407676
>Don't bring milk products into China.
i did all the time ,whats the problem
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>>1407780
He's weird. I also bring milk products (and fruit, and all sorts of other food) with me to China all the time, nobody gives a single fuck.

>>1407676
What do you even mean...?
I only ever bring small quantities of milk products in, only the amount I'd consume within a few weeks, but like, I literally saw a huge ass cardboard box of milk in it's original packaging (with some additional tape) brought in right in front of me last time. I think you're confusing China with some other country.

Not saying anon's friend isn't retarded, like why tf would you want noodles of all things shipped in... (Unless we're talking about a canelloni addict or something like that.)
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What the heck is this

Beijing tree pruners
https://www.caixinglobal.com/2017-04-13/101078117.html
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I'd like to go on a cyberpunk/"dark tourism" kind of trip in China; does anyone know any 'seedy' areas that I could snoop around in? It could also be outside the mainland like HK, Macau and Taiwan too.
I'm looking for:
>dystopian/orwellian architecture,statues,billboards
>extreme contrast between old and new like a highway next to some huts
>overt consumerism/late capitalism commodities like a fuck-ton of adverts on the street, prostitutes, bitcoin machines
>interesting internet cafés
>somewhere that's usually smoggy and rainy
>a shit-ton of neon signs
>gargantuan industrial complexes
>huge commieblocks
>e-Waste
>skyscrapers
>qt robots
>pollution

I know of Hong Kong and Shenzhen but are there other places like this? Is Beijing or Shanghai the same way?
Is Taiwan similar to South Korea/Japan?
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>>1407836
if you're looking for something original you have to go somewhere that tourists usually don't go to.

try some second tier or third tier cities, and the countryside. you'll see that type of huge contrast

i was in the Shaanxi Province (terracotta warriors, hua mountain) and visited Xi'an, a pretty big city, then visited some small towns called Qishan and Fengxiang, along with the small countryside areas in between.

those places had many small huts and old apartment buildings that looked like a hundred years old, but also brand new 5-star hotels and well built parks. also saw a nicely built catholic church in a rural area (wtf?)..
there many poor people running small shops on the side of the road... fresh air and beautiful sky unlike the polluted greyness in the cities. they all spoke in a dialect completely unlike what you hear in the city 1 hour away. i saw high school girls walking home from school at like 6 pm. one in particular was extremely pretty, almost like a kpop model. felt sad i'll never get to know her. there were so many things that seemed out of place in these areas, and it was so interesting. you can't help but wonder what are these peoples' lives really like?
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>>1407676
>Don't bring milk products into China
Nonsense, anything in a jar or obvious commercial packaging is going to be fine, especially personal use quantities.

>>1407799
>What the heck is this
Pollen from a fast growing willow tree that flowers for a week in April every year, your article explains it very clearly. Planted in large numbers because they help clean the air and grow quicker than other breeds. They use pine trees in my city, same effect but no pollen. We do get lots of pollen from the Mongolian grasslands though, that sucks. It will hit in a few months.

Hong Kong, TST, Jordan, Mong Kok will give you those vibes, be sure to stay in Chungking mansions in a tiny private hotel there. You won't lose a kidney, or even your luggage and the cramped rooms will definitely give you a CheapHotel (tm) vibe that fits right into Gibson as you take an aging elevator down to ground floor for plate of curry and rice and then wander the backstreets with their rusting pipes and neon lighting.

Parts of Shenzhen and Guangzhou should be good to, especially check out Huachengbei in Shenzhen but actually stay in Luohu there, near the HK border.

Part of Beijing and Shanghai might fit the bill but it's less common and they're fairly well developed these days.
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>>1407617
Macaroni
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>>1408049
You can buy regular pasta in China, Carrefour has a bunch of different varieties.
If you want boxes of instant mac&cheese, you can get it from larger foreign supermarkets in Beijing and other big cities. Metro has it too I think.

You can order it from the Hong Kong JinDong too.
https://item.jd.hk/26851638662.html
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Chinese women flying to South Korea for a more 'Western' face
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>>1408223
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>>1408225
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>>1408223
>before no make up
>after with make up
doctor I'm cured!
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if I use international roaming on my Australian SIM, will I still be subject to Chinese internet censorship, or does it get around that?
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>>1407799
This is funny, im a Brit and in my garden we have one of these trees, one of only a few hundred in the country, every spring it jizzes its fucking fluff all over the place and its almost as dense as snow.
>>1408223
Many chinese women are beautiful without surgery, many naturally have double eyelids. China has ugly and hot people like all countries. I would say it has more hot women than the west just because at least theyre mostly thin and have good skin.
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>>1408627
it gets around it. no censorship for you my man
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>>1408225
Chinese women stuck at South Korea airport unable to confirm identities after plastic surgery
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>>1408223
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>>1408743
>falling for this many clickbait articles
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>>1408745
One morning in Sinchon I was on my way to get breakfast, I'm never fully awake before breakfast, and I see this girl coming my way on the sidewalk with her head FULLY covered in gauze. I was convinced I was in the middle of a horror movie, and I had to stop for the few minutes while she was in sight. There were tiny holes for her nose and eyes, I don't even remember seeing the hole for her mouth. I wonder how she functioned.

>>1408203
This... They have Barilla in China. I mean, stock is going to vary, but Barilla is not bad at all.
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any anons been to or live in macau? i'm going with a couple of buddies in july. any recommendations?
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>>1409558

The only real draw to Macau is the fact that you can gamble until you're totally broke. I stayed there for a few days and quickly grew bored of it. A big problem is that it's a hub for a lot of mainland Chinese, who are among some of the rudest """""""""""""""""""""""people""""""""""""""""""""""" I've ever had the misfortune of dealing with.
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>>1409661
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1EVUyJeGPMd
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>>1407836

>Is Taiwan similar to South Korea/Japan?

Mmmm not quite. Taiwan is like a grittier version of Japan and definitely more exciting than South Korea. It's nice and cheap (depending on what city you're in, as with any country) and the people are friendly.

If you're looking for a shit-ton of neon signs, go to Ximen at night. It's wild.
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>>1409662

Ha ha ha
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>>1409558
I was in Macau last year as a poor backpacker. Cannot reccomend, the cheapest table for blackjack is about 10usd per round. Interesting sights but I found the whole place pretty vapid.
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>>1409661
>>1409677
thanks bros. not too into gambling desu so might have to reconsider. its the last leg of our trip, really just looking to party and have a good time before coming back to reality
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>>1409987
It has some beautiful parts, a decent party scene, and can by quite comfy. Definitely worth seeing for a day or two, but more than that you will probably get bored.
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How is Xiamen and Zhangzhou? And is there anything nearby I should check out?

I might have the opportunity to go there and stay with this girl I'm seeing. Never been to China before.
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>>1409558
>any anons been to or live in macau? i'm going with a couple of buddies in july. any recommendations?

Don't actually gamble, it's the least cost-effective way to have fun in Macau.
That said, the casinos have nice bars and some nice restaurants and floor shows etc. By all means, sit in a bar and sip a (somewhat expensive) cocktail and watch 10/10 russian dancers do an acrobatic ribbon dance suspended from the ceiling.

If you're so inclined, Macau saunas have a very good reputation for all-inclusive long-stay whoring. You can find reviews of that online by yourself.

There are some random sites to see around the island, mostly Portuguese colonial things, you can do all that in a day.
Macau is at most, an overnight trip, maybe two nights if you really like partying in the casino or something, it would probably be more fun in company.
There's more petty crime than I expected, don't leave stuff lying around.

>>1410043
>Xiamen and Zhangzhou
I thought that Zhangzhou was kind of dirty but I didn't spend much time there, only saw it from the BRT coming back from Xiamen. Xiamen is pretty in places but also crowded and dirty in others, it depends on what you like.

You can definitely have fun there for a few days.
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>>1410069
>Macau saunas have a very good reputation for all-inclusive long-stay whoring.
But expensive as fuck.
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>>1410122
How expensive we talking?
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>>1410132
upwards of 300 USD a session. Great if you can spend that amount of money because they have Viet stunners, Chinese princess and Mongolian vixens.
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>>1410140
Chinese princess, like this one? As usual.
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>>1410144
stay mad roastie


>>1410140
long-stay would imply the weekend though or at least 24 hours. so 300 USD for that isnt bad.
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>>1410149
>long-stay would imply the weekend though or at least 24 hours. so 300 USD for that isnt bad.

LOL! 300 USD for one fuck/90 mins in a sauna. 300 USD for weekend is not expensive anywhere other than may be Combodia.
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>>1410150
Isn't that more expensive than Japan? wtf.
Plus there really isn't a need to pay for sex in China if you're white and not fat.
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>>1410309
>Plus there really isn't a need to pay for sex in China if you're white and not fat.
Include Japan, Korea, Indonesia, Phillipines to the list. Not sure if you can get 10/10 in Viet without paying.
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>>1410150
How is 90 minutes long staying?
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>>1410149
But thats the food ranger, he's marrying a Cantonese girl, who is the camera woman of those very photos, thats their friend.

Stupid
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>>1410417
Macau is not a fucking third world shithole where you can fuck a girl for 1300 baht. Its bigger than Vegas in terms of Gambling business before the anti-corruption crackdown by n>2 guy. So you filthy ass begpackers to Combodia if you want to fuck. Only rich boyzz in Macau please. Fuck that n>2 guy.
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I am travelling to Hangzhou tomorrow to teach English. I have my VPN, Dictionaries, a workbook and teaching instruction guides. This is however the first time I will be moving abroad so would like some clarity in terms of advice

>should I stay solo or with someone in my apartment?
>for someone traditionally introvert, where to start with Chinese speaking locally?
>as an ethnic chinese with no chinese (adopted) what are advantages or disadvantages?

Thanks in advance




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