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I don't get the appeal of traveling. With the help of today's Internet it's so easy to just look at very immersive videos, pictures, vlogs, etc. I don't see how experiencing those travels physically would differ from just experiencing them through a screen. Can you guys change my mind?
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>>1417146
>Can you guys change my mind?

No because you're obviously set in your mindset with what you posted. Some of us though just like doing outdoor activities at places, experiencing the unknown outside a camera's view, and experiencing first hand the locations.

If you don't care about one of those things don't bother traveling
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No, stay home. The less other tourists, the better.
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>>1417151
>experiencing first hand the locations.
What does this give you?
Also would hitchhiking across the world be the most (hopefully positive) mind-changing experience about traveling?
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>>1417155
>What does this give you?
Enjoyment?

>Also would hitchhiking across the world be the most (hopefully positive) mind-changing experience about traveling?

no idea anon, not sure if that method of seeing the world seems fun. It's like asking "is cheese a good topping for a burger, will I like it?"
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I don't get the appeal of sex. With the help of today's Internet it's so easy to just look at very immersive videos, pictures, vlogs, etc.
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I can't eat food through a screen
I can't fuck women through a screen
I can't hike mountains through a screen
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>>1417146
The feeling is different, small things like finally arriving at the airport and having this tingling feeling awaiting to get out and see what the country has. Basically you can't really explore the world through pictures and videos and that is what white men were made to do. Also for example hiking or climbing mountains, yeah you can look at a picture of a really high mountain but you never get the sense of awe, accomplishment and small hint of fear that you get when you look at the pictures.
But at the same time I get you on the landmarks/architecture, I can look at the picture of eiffel tower I don't really need to see it, seeing it in live doesn't change anything for me, but with nature it is a different story.
Also in a foreign land atleast I get a tad more socializable and turn a bit into a different person, who is more free than back home. But like always people don't always like the same things as others, matter of taste, so if you don't get travelling maybe you aren't supposed to. But question is have you travelled properly, I didn't care for travelling aswell before I flew to Nice,France. Before that i'd been to netherlands,germany etc, but I had a thing for tropical countries and that feeling how much I liked it only came out when I travelled there.
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>>1417167
>I can't fuck women through a screen

I see you haven't kept up with VR technology.
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>>1417175
Those are nice points, thank you. That's actually what I thought: there is a difference between going through the hurdles of traveling (physically and emotionally) vs. just booking hotels and seeing the popular places with your own eyes (which you can totally do on the internet).

So that's what I suggested earlier: maybe the 'best' thing for me would be to just hitchhike across the world, even if I fail.
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It's like saying sex is stupid because you can just jerk off to porn.

You realise humans have 7 senses right ? The smell, the opportunity to touch and taste, the noise it all makes up for the experience my friend.
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>>1417205
Yeah I think that's my problem. I'm actually a 25 year old virgin "by choice" (I had a few occasions but never followed through, the farthest I've gone was licking some pussy and getting blowjobs) I actually don't care about those kind of "sensory" experiences. I'm totally fine with porn. I don't know why but I'm always open to learn
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>>1417208
Porn is bad mmkay, at first when you have sex it doesn't feel as good as porn even, but after awhile you can't really compare them anymore as you understand sex is so much better. Also porn fucks up your dopamine system and what else, possibly leading you into this apathetic state. Best to ween yourself off this addiction and enjoy life.

>>1417190
If you like hiking try it, but it doesn't have to be hiking, I for example enjoyed driving through foreign countries aswell, it's a form of exploring aswell. Just try different things and see what suits you, maybe travelling isn't for you. Because I think it is very overhyped nowadays, all the instgram ho's and people who only travel to show off. But I guess after all it's as good as reason to travel as any other reason.
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I just like talking to people who have unique experiences from all around the world honestly.
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>>1417146
I travel for the people, not the historical sites or tourist traps
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>>1417146
Have you seen anything beautiful or impressive irl? How does internet media compare?
Save your time and money if you dont care
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A VR set can simulate what it's like to see the natural beauty of the world sure. But nothing can replicate the feeling of sitting down for a beer and some food with some friends you made on the road and laughing like maniacs. When typing it out, it seems trivial, but interactions like that are truely one of life's great pleasures. Of course, finding a cool group of people is not a given, you have to put yourself out there for it to happen. It can be scary and intimidating, but I'd say it's worth it.
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>>1417146
Just don't fucking do it.
Why would anyone try to change your mind, and why would you ask someone to?

I typically don't like country music or drugs, but a lot of people do. Should I go around asking these people to alter my perspective? Sounds like a waste of time to me, but it's your thread I guess.

There are plenty of other hobbies one can devote to....have you tried fixing up old bikes? I don't know about you OP, but if I repaired an old bike or built a boat I'd want to go take it somewhere but maybe that's just me.
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>>1417185
Most people haven't. It's meme tech and is going to burn out and be forgotten, just like the last time.
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>>1417461
I don't like beer.
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>>1417461
you get it, friend of the road
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>>1417205
>You realise humans have 7 senses right ?
are you fucking retarded?
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>>1417146
Everything you're seeing already happened, it may as well be history, but when you travel, you're there in the present and you're a part of what is happening. What is happening might very well happen because you are a part of it. Not everyone who travels wants to or expects to do shit like The Machine, but we all interact with one another and form stories that we may tell for months or years.
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>>1417513
My sides
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>>1417146

> Can you guys change my mind?

I get the feeling from this that you've basically never visited other countries at all ever? Also because if you've seen a variety of different places around the world then you can just make up your own mind.

If you've never done it just do it, go to a few places, try Thailand and Norway or something. It's not a big deal. It doesn't mean you have to start going once/twice a year like average bob.

I mean it's like saying "I've never gone diving in the sea before, will I like it?" and the response is "idk, try it".
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>>1417146
Actually, yes anon. If you read journals like Oxford's Foreign Policy Analysis, or Anthropology journals on different socities/history, and you went on google street view to look at an area you're essentially doing the same thing as zipping past these places in a taxi or bus. Travelling for visuals or """culture""" is a waste of time. I completely stopped travelling for these reasons after I discovered we all have the same culture basically, which is shopping malls, soap operas, typical western culture no matter where you go on earth. Now I just travel to meet and talk with people of completely different ideology than the prevailing one in my country, example Slovenia, India, Iran and China where I met some mathematicians who changed the way I perceive things, which to me is the whole point of traveling, to experience something different through interaction. I don't consider most of the world different, even primitive tribes since my own country has natives and they're the same as everywhere else which you can read all about in Anthropology journals. All you need to know about any tribe that lives in the Amazon, Rift Valley or Mongolia is that they respect being tough and flashy, so many elaborate ceremonies, usually involving very strong alcohol, filled with some kind of pain tolerance after which you can wear flashy clothing and tattoos, and have the right to get married. All of them will be glued to a smartphone too and probably going to nearest towns to get a remmitance every month. So again the same shit. Just visit the tribes in your own country. So once you realize the culture is basically all the same everywhere with just different icing, you'll start traveling for other reasons or narrow your travel to really experience something different, like going to a campus in Tehran to talk to political theorists there who have open cafe nights where anybody can show up. This is worth travelling for, not a waterfall selfie or eating some street kebab.
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>>1417940
based
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>>1417165
Sadly, a lot of people would agree with your statement.
>/r9k/
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I was a lot like op until I took a trip to watch a sporting event, the next time I watched a tv game at the stadium it seemed more real because I had been there, been to a few other places since
don't get the ultra budget traveling that most of this board does
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>>1417940
>like going to a campus in Tehran to talk to political theorists there who have open cafe nights where anybody can show up. This is worth travelling for, not a waterfall selfie or eating some street kebab.
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>>1417940
Thanks for the fresh pasta you fucking autist
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>>1417146
You know it lot of traveling has to do with the actual people of a different country and interacting with them. I don't know why this needs explaining. You must be retarded or severely autistic.
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>>1417146
>I don't get the appeal of sex. With the help of today's Internet it's so easy to just look at very immersive videos, pictures, vlogs, etc. I don't see how experiencing those sex acts physically would differ from just experiencing them through a screen. Can you guys change my mind?
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>>1417940
I've been an edgelord at some points in my life, but this is seriously insufferable. Have you EVER had actual friends?
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>>1417940
are you having a stroke?
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>>1417513
You know there are more than the 5 senses that they teach little kids. Movement propriocaption and balance are other ones. Pain is not identical to touch. You can have pain that is not caused by touch. Temperature.
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>>1417208

I understand your point but I would advise you to atleast try it. That is the best way to find out. My point was for example being in a tropical rainforest or desert is totally different than seeing it, due to so many more senses being triggered together and making one epic experience.

In the grand scheme of things there is no point in anything we do. But I recommend you try going to Sri Lanka or Namibia something totally different in culture and landscape comapred to where you live.
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>>1417146
Maybe you should try something before deciding you don't like it...?
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>>1418254
not that I'm defending his retardation, but the people that think they "learn" from travel are insufferably stupid and need to be gassed

OP, travel, its fun. or don't. it does stop being fun at some point, and it costs a decent amount of money.

I'd be dead if I never traveled. but I definitely don't think seeing the pyramids or a bunch of niggers is particularly cool

travel to china or europe. other places are kind of shitholes
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>>1417146
>watching others is the same as living it myself
Cuck mindset, the post.
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Why do people bother replying to this shit?
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>>1417472
I've bought one 6 months ago and I'm still using it daily. It's amazing for porn and that's the reason it's not going to die. Porn makes or breaks new technology.
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>>1418601
>China
>other places are kind of shitholes

wat
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The very idea of wanting to or liking "travel" is a pretense.

You travel for a purpose usually; to see historic sites, to see natural wonders, to try food, etc

So your real interest is history, food, nature, etc and travel is just a means to do those things

But liking "travel" itself means what exactly? You enjoy the act of physically transporting yourself to other places? No, no one travels simply because they enjoy airports, airplanes, trains etc If you move somewhere, that isnt travel. Talk to people? You talk to people from different countries everytime you come to 4chan.

No, people who say they like to travel like one thing above all else: that pretense of saying "I've traveled the world, look at all the countries and places I've been to ;). Praise me and be jealous"
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>>1418763

>No, people who say they like to travel like one thing above all else: that pretense of saying "I've traveled the world, look at all the countries and places I've been to ;). Praise me and be jealous"


I only really get that vibe from Instagram broads with "inspirational" bullshit written on their pics. A lot of people travel and don't act like assholes
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>>1418763
>No, no one travels simply because they enjoy airports, airplanes, trains etc
I'd like to introduce you to >>>/n/
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>>1418763
The very idea of wanting to or liking "Money" is a pretense.

You want money for a purpose usually; to buy consumer goods, to experience and consume services, to buy food, etc

So your real interest is consumer good, food, services, etc and money is just a means to do those things

But liking "money" itself means what exactly? You enjoy the act of procuring green pieces of paper? No, no one works simply because they enjoy pieces of paper, currency, cheques etc If you make money, that isnt consumption. like numbers on a page? You see numbers on a page every time you come to 4chan.

No, people who say they like money like one thing above all else: that pretense of saying "I've a lot of currency, look at all goods and services I can potentially acquire ;). Praise me and be jealous"
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>>1417146
If you would be truly willing to entertain this request, I ask that you look at immersive media of the Grand Canyon, and then travel to see it in person. Please let us know if you felt any difference between the two methods of experiencing the same site/landmark. Experiencing places, people and things through media can be is informative, but experiencing them in person is much more likely to be transformative.




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