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>Hipster retards shitting on Alien and Aliens and their special effects
>Jay says the Alien queen in Aliens looks phony
>Jay generally being even a bigger hipster faggot than AIDSMoby by saying he loves Alien 3 and only likes Aliens

Do these retards forget they make complete garbage shlock fests with terrible CG and effects?

I honestly can't think of a worse person with shitter opinions than someone that thinks Alien 3 is anything more than a 6/10
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>>100964001
even fucking Fincher himself said he kinda dropped the ball on alien 3. Jay is a faggot and he cant act nor make a good movie.
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>>100964001
Jays love for David Fincher is super f*cking embarrassing.
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>>100964001
Film critics are failed film makers
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>>100964001
They said that Alien and Aliens both great movies multiple times in the commentary. What more you want? They are not perfect,
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>alien 3
even alien resurrection is better than that turd
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>>100964001
>Jay says the Alien queen in Aliens looks phony
The queen was one of the few effects in Aliens that didn't age poorly.
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>>100964001
jay was once the voice of reason, now he´s the voice of nu-males and liberals
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>I hate these guys but I have to watch everything they make to justify my hatred
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>>100964513
jay was never the voice of reason
jay is the driving force behind their focus on "so-bad-it's-good" irony, he is pure creative cancer and probably the single biggest reason Space Cop sucked
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>>100964001
Why do you guys listen to these nerdy faggots at all? I tried watching a couple of their reviews just because I see them posted on here all the time. They aren't funny. They aren't knowledgable. They aren't even entertaining. What is the appeal?
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>>100964599
Then how would you know you hate them if you never heard them say stupid shit?
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>>100964001
>t.35 year old boomer who uses outdated slang like "hipster"
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>>100964618
within the field of hack youtube critics, they are somewhat knowledgeable, they have a little technical and screenwriting expertise
their biggest strength is they know how to shoot and write comedy, it's too bad they don't take it seriously enough to make something decent
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>>100964001
I'm pretty sure Mike is a fag. Or bi. Either way, I've noticed little things like mannerisms and enunciation before this, but the latest wheel basically confirms it.
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>>100964052
Can't really blame him. the script was a mess and didn't he get the final version like 2 weeks before filming started?
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>>100964001
They did not shit on them at all Jay said that Aliens is a good movie but he likes Alien more and rich loves Aliens and never said anything bad on alien and mike did not really say which one he likes more but he also did not shit on any one of them
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>>100964693
>it's too bad they don't take it seriously enough to make something decent
whoa... it's almost like they're hacks who expose their lack of talent every time they try putting effort into anything.
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>>100964851
Okay but you're ignoring what Jay said about the Alien queen effect

Kind of like you're leaving information to defend your faggot idol
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>>100964891
the thing is they're not complete hacks. like they're not TGWTG tier. they could do something decent if they really put some work into it.
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>>100964759
Not wanting to see women pissing doesn't make you gay, anon.
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>>100964928
There's definitely a level to internet reviewer hackery

That Guy With The Glasses obviously is the most hacky
AVGN is semi hacky
RLM is slightly hacky but if they brought in a talented cinematographer or something, they could make real movies
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>>100964924
Just because he has one criticism on the movie still does not mean he is shitting on it
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>>100964928
Space cop was great, right?
>>100964934
I meant the bit about fags in the dangerous internet or whatever it was called tape. Every time he and Jay talk about gays, Mike sounds really fucking gay. Also he has faggy mannerisms and sometimes slips into gay voice.
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>>100965104
Anon just come out of the closet stop looking around to see who else is gay just be yourself
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>>100965193
>out of the closet
projecting
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>>100964668
He said everything not a couple of thier vids listening to a two hour commentary track that is not even on their youtube channel is too much
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>>100964001
Imagine spending all day every day obsessively watching RLM solely so you can shitpost on /tv/
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>>100966208
This is my first day on /tv/ unironically. Nice to meet you anon-sir
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>>100964618
They got famous for the Plinkett Star Wars prequel reviews which got attention from real people including filmmakers, they've just been skating by on that fame ever since and pushing out trash to get the mad YouTube adverts cash.
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>>100965104
>Every time he and Jay talk about gays, Mike sounds really fucking gay. Also he has faggy mannerisms and sometimes slips into gay voice.
latent homosexual detected.
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Jay likes both Alien and Aliens. He likes 3 despite it being messy because it’s closer in tone to the original film. I can’t even imagine going into an autistic rage about this like you OP.
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>>100965104
>Space cop was great, right?
Space cop sucked not because it was the best they could do, but because they SETTLED for it. They hid behind irony and intentional so-bad-it's-good garbage. They didn't have to do these things.
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>>100964218
>even alien resurrection is better than that turd
Bullshit. Alien 3 is at least watchable. I would literally watch anything else before subjecting myself to the cringey garbage that was AR. Ironically enough, I enjoyed the novelization though.
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>>100966801
I feel the exact opposite
I like Jeunet a lot more than Fincher in general though
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>>100966860
I really couldn't get over the superhuman Ripley clone nonsense. The whole thing felt like a total shark jump, and most of the acting was wooden. And I tried to enjoy that movie because I have a huge chub for Winona Ryder.

I think a lot of the hate for Alien 3 deals with the bullshit beginning in which two of the characters we cared about in the series get off screen deaths. But I thought introducing the prison colony was some good world building, introducing the concept(to the films anyway) of xenomorph physiology being based on the host creature. I think it's more like the first than the second which also rubbed some people the wrong way. The movie is fine. It's not great and I wish it was better, but its fine.
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>>100964001
>Jay generally being even a bigger hipster faggot than AIDSMoby by saying he loves Alien 3 and only likes Aliens
jay will defend anything that's "weird" to him

basically even if the movie is shit, but it's "weird" and "unique" then it's automatically a good movie
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Can you imagine watching a 2 hour masterpiece with commentary by a bunch of whiny Gen Xers who have no special insight into the film or any other and then complaining that it's bad?
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>>100964001
>Jay generally being even a bigger hipster faggot than AIDSMoby
Jay also said that sigourney weaver was objectified in the first alien. Like what the fuck?
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>>100964001
>he loves Alien 3
/our guy/
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>>100968846
>Jay also said that sigourney weaver was objectified in the first alien
are you surprised?

>Dude I enjoy the most grotesque and despicable movies imaginable but if there's a rape scene in there we're going to have a problem
>Dude I enjoy the most grotesque and despicable movies imaginable, I love watching every capeshit movie, but Ready Player One is sexist, misogynistic, and problematic as hell. Let Rich take care of this shit.
>Dude I enjoy the most grotesque and despicable movies imaginable, I love watching every capeshit movie, but a woman saying "I want to suck your cock" is too problematic and misogynistic.
>Dude I enjoy the most grotesque and despicable movies imaginable, but Harrison Ford's performance of Han Solo is sexist, misogynistic, and problematic as hell. Han solo literally RAPED Princess Leia in the OT. But even worse is his performance in the original Blade Runner, which I think is a bad movie, filled with sexist bullshit like the romance between Deckard and Rachael, which is predatory, and especially the scene when Deckard forced himself on her, and basically rapes her, while the movie pretends the scene is supposed to be "romantic. Ugh. So problematic
>Dude I enjoy the most grotesque and despicable movies imaginable, but a nip slip in a shitty 80s movie was so shocking to me I almost had a heart attack
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>>100964001
have you listened to it tho? you like that polygon journo cherry picking and twisting shit
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>>100967142
Solid analysis, there were ideas I loved about Alien3 but they just weren't explored enough (the script was rushed through development to make the release date). Personally I thought Hicks and Newt surviving and having to handle the prison colony would've been even more interesting, but the movie wasn't interested in that. As a result, Alien:R had better characters, though admittedly a much shittier ending.

One thing that doesn't get talked about: The android in Resurrection had a name that started with "C" which continues down the alphabet into the modern movies. This is a mis-read. The bad guy in the first movie started with A (Ash), then in the second movie, the gag wasn't that the android started with B (Bishop), it was that the secret bad guy had a B name (Burke). Just a minor detail that annoyed me about Resurrection, but overall, better movie than Alien3 if you ignore the last 5 minutes.

Anyway,

>I have a huge chub for Winona Ryder.
You are not alone.
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>>100969101
he's right
https://twitter.com/JayBauman1/status/735195096073801728
https://twitter.com/JayBauman1/status/753594714411130880

jay is a sissy faggot
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>>100968704
He didn't like ID2 though, luckily /ourmike/ was there bringing the patrician viewpoint.
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>>100969036
>the romance between Deckard and Rachael
Yeah, that was really bizarre critique. Their romance is supposed to be rough, because he hates replicants, but at the same time he fall in love with one.
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>>100968784
>Gen Xers
they are stereotypical 30yo boomers
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>>100969161
why would he defend id2? it wasn't "weird", it was just schlock, which mike loves.

if the movie is "weird", or it "subvert his expectations" then it's a good movie, according to jay.
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>>100969150
>Super unpopular opinion but I like Alien 3
>Not my favorite, but I like it more than Aliens.
What? He likes it, but at the same time he doesn't.
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>>100964001
I hate Jay so much.
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>>100964001
Gay Bowelman btfo
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>>100969341
lol, based James strikes again
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>>100969341
Whoa, that guy is huge or AVGN is a manlet?
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>>100964056
Fincher makes kino, but Alien 3 was mediocre.
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>>100969429
joe is like 6'4, jay would look like a fucking baby beside him
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>>100964618
Their Half in the Bag episodes used to be great, but there has been a noticeable decline in quality over the last few years. I ignore those now and just watch the Wheel of the Worst and Best of the Worst.
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>>100969341
Well, even AVGN movie is better than Space Cop. Even though they are both shit.
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>>100967142
>>100966860
>>100966801
>Ripley : Who do I have to fuck to get off this boat
That's Joss Whedon for you.
Funny implications now that we know what we know, BTW
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>>100969150
What a shocker!
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i enjoy rlm's re:view series for what it is but their commentary tracks are surprisingly lacking
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>>100969762
They don't even appear to be paying attention in most of them (with the possible exception of Jay who just autistically rambles on and on).
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>>100969211
I thought it was pretty weird, all the gravitational changes and the scenes inside the alien ship especially. Alien3 in comparison wasn't that different to Alien, it's Aliens which is the outlier that may have caused some people to have the wrong idea about the franchise.
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>>100969704
Your obsession with Jay is creepy, anon.
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>>100969838
The obsession is creepy in itself but what makes it worse is that he shits up every single RLM thread with said disturbing obsession.
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>>100964218
No, it really isn't. 3 is at least a real film, and not the 'should-be-straight-to-TV'-abortion that Wh*don crapped out
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>>100969838
t.jay
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>>100969704
I don't get it
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>>100969957
One mentally ill creep spams threads with his delusional idea that Jay likes violent gore but hates female nudity. He will spam this bullshit and defend it in every thread even in the face of proof that it is wrong. His only defense is to accuse people of being Jay.
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>>100970019
>that Jay likes violent gore but hates female nudity
because it's true Jay
and it's not just jay, it's the american mentality.
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>>100969883
hahahaha, Jay, you are so funny, hahahaha
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>>100969941
what is this body language meant to convey. what was their relationship to each other?
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>>100970046
>because it's true Jay
It's not though. Like all normal people Jay likes female nudity if it's done tastefully.
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>>100970110
he (as in, you Jay) goes absolutely bananas if there is even a nip slip, so no, not really.
a tranny cock is okay though.
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>>100969036
>especially the scene when Deckard forced himself on her, and basically rapes her, while the movie pretends the scene is supposed to be "romantic.
it's incredible how many fall for this meme
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>>100970158
t. never seen Blade Runner Re:view
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>>100970193
>t. never seen Blade Runner Re:view
He edited it, so at least he saw it once.
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>>100968784
No, but I can imagine a decent number of teens and guys in their early 20s watching it because they’re just into dumb shit like that.
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>rich mentions he's never even watched resurrection
>mike seems genuinely annoyed at his lack of preparation
Bigger thing that bothered me during this commentary track.
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>>100970193
>>100970223
Sorry, I did not explained myself.
I have seen the review and I believe jay said it, but what I mean is that Deckard forcing himself is a meme, and that even admitting an unclear context, the movie goes long ways (see the killing of Zhora, especially the character focus and the soundtrack) to show Deckard as quite villanous (albeit reluctantly) up to the very end.
Before being a SJW-like, someone that spreads this nonsense is an immense pleb.
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>>100970336
it's not just jay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWoP8VpbpYI
most soibois think harrison ford movies are about rapists
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>>100964001
the legs on the Alien Queen DO look like puppet legs. they're weightless, ffs.

>4chan unwilling to accept facts as usual and blindly cocksucking 'x' because they like 'x' and 'x' can have no flaws! Amen.
Cult of Nerd. Die.
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>>100964618
They're more funny than anything else imo. Also hating on popular shit is an escape of mine since I have to deal with normies' nonsensical opinions all day
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>>100970459
You linked an idiot that is particularly egregious in his stupidity, but yes.
These are people devoid of nuances.
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STOP TALKING BAD ABOUT MUH FRIEND SIMULATOR MOOOOOOMMY!!!!!!!!!
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The fact that these guys are still posted here amazes me. There's really no avoiding it, I've grown up, and /tv/ simply remains infancy. Look, RLM are the living embodiment of the smug, detached Gen-X ethos. What do I mean by this?

Well, I'd venture to guess none of them has felt a single sincere conviction about anything since childhood. They exist as polyps upon the colon of culture, satiating themselves on the perceived failures of others (i.e. "The Man") while adding nothing new to the discourse aside from ironic complaint.

They're a group of insecure, lost, rapidly aging burnouts who silently believe they could do a better job of making films than the professionals in the industry. Yet they lack the ambition and ability to actually enter the very industry they're obsessed with. They choose instead to fuck around and make student film piss-takes well into middle age.

They are awful, awful people. I've met thousands just like them, and the last thing we need is for these people to gain any attention for their navel gazing.

Please, /tv/, do not aspire to become anything like these people. Theirs is a lonely and pathetic road leading to depression and a life devoid of real purpose.

I hope they disappear and their disaffected followers stop subsidizing their lifestyle. Perhaps that would force them to do something productive with themselves.

>inb4 some retard (incorrectly) goes hurrr reddit spacing, as though RLM threads weren't as reddit as they come.
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>>100970743
old pasta
they are not gen-x anymore, they are 30yo boomers
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>>100970935
>they are not gen-x anymore, they are 30yo boomers
explain this meme
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>>100971251
the 30yo boomer meme fits them too well, as simple as that.
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>>100971285
Is this like blacks telling other blacks they behave white only less dumber?
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>>100964001
>Jay says the Alien queen in Aliens looks phony
Some scenes where the queen's arms are ragdolling around look goofy, but as a whole it still looks great. Especially the head and neck puppetry.
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>>100969150
i was talking about 'shitting on aliens', that statement is reaching as fuck
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>>100973323
so what are you talking about?
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>>100969924
Literally backwards. Resurrection is a movie with design and a vision behind it. You may not like the direction it took, but it was intended by the people who made it. 3 is the failed hodgepodge by 40 different writers, a director who doesn't acknowledge it and studio meddling.
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>>100975305
fuck off whedon
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>>100968704
God I hate Jay
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>>100964001
I don't like these faggots but the Alien queen does look phony, all of the alien costumes/puppets in Aliens look worse than the single Alien in Alien
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>>100969704
great drawings
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>>100964218
This is way too contrarian even for /tv/ standards.
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>>100964618
And who do you consider a funny and knowledgeable modern critic?
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>>100978570
I don't listen to any critics. I watch movies that look interesting to me. That's why I don't understand this boards obsession with rotten tomato scores. Critics have always been huge faggots.
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>>100964001
>>Jay says the Alien queen in Aliens looks phony
>>he loves Alien 3
Is he fucking retarded? That fucking green screened muppet in the third is atrocious.
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>>100978636
>I don't understand this boards obsession with....

There's going to be a lot of things you are not going to understand about this board, Mr. Boomer.
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>>100975305
this




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