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Welcome to /who/, the Doctor Who general!

LAST GENERAL: >>85072197

BIGGEST BTFO SINCE SEASON 2
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What happened to dildo anon?
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I'm sure Marshall hasn't stop laughing since the reveal.
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>>85076947
Why don't you like the forest setting?
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>>85076906
The first episode of the regeneration is always given the most attention.

The second episode is normally focused on the companion and not the Doctor.

The two episode rule means you get basic pandering trying to convince you to watch it. It's normally around the fourth episode where the quality levels out (as long as you dont get a two-parter)
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nth for best girl
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>>85075033
They were good characters and Capaldi was a great Doctor but sadly we just don't have the viewing figures, in my opinion, as well as DW being an ongoing show has continuity that normalfags probably don't like.
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Why haven't BBC or someone else done a Lucasfilm and tried to make one true continuity for Who?
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>>85077047
Nardole was self-admitted comic relief who basically got abandoned by the Doctor.

Missy immediately destroyed the relationship the Master and the Doctor had turning it into a one-sided romance/crush.
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>>85077064

It would either piss off Big Finish fags or allow BBC to meddle in the expanded universe too much.
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I want the new season now I can't wait, i hope the channel lives up to it's namesake so we actually get a good companion for once
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>>85077064
Because everything is canon. Parallel universes, senpai.
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>>85077064
Who's EU is perhaps even more of a clusterfuck than Star Wars' was.

I would love some BF stories to be canon and mentioned in the TV series though.
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How does his hair do that?
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>>85077156
Who's EU is the most complicated in the world.
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Imagine they wrote in a "the doctor got pregnant" storyline
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>>85076986
Chan Romero is dead and Doctor Who is going to get cancelled again what's good about that Tho

(Nah I kid, I'm just salty that I can't choke on the Doctor's dick anymore)

>>85077008
You're reminding me of Gallifrey Immigrant who is trying to convince me to change it the 'five episode rule' instead, lel.

I mean, wouldn't the 'basic pandering' be them going all out with the best shit they can throw at you though?

Nine
>Rose: Great
>End of the World: Great

Ten
>The Christmas Invasion: He slept for over the half the episode. Didn't sell me on him at first teebeeaich
>New Earth: This was comfy and I enjoyed it

Eleven
>The Eleventh Hour: Fucking GOAT
>The Beast Below: Some people don't like this episode, but I really liked it?

So weirdly enough, the first two episodes for Ecclestone and Smith are higher quality than Tennant's first two, and he ended up being my favorite Doctor. I suppose you make a valid point. Hm.
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lads i got after effects working again give me ideas for doctor who shitpost
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>>85077178
Maybe that'll be the last season, Doctor retires to raise her child.
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>>85077156
Unlike the Star Wars EU, the Doctor Who EU is actually good,fir the most part. It's definitely better than the show.
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>>85077178
>>85077225
Only if the kid is Miranda Dawkins or Jenny.
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>>85077158
Probably something to do with diet. He's young, but clearly unhealthy. It's probably contributing to premature baldness.
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Post potential companions
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>>85077292
I want Alexander Vlahos as the Doctor or Companion.
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What stories do we want for Wilderness Era 2?
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>>85077247
Some stuff doesn't fit though. If you take BF into account the Doctor is thousands of years old, yet in S8 he said he's only 2000.
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5 months to go, what the fuck should I do?
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Will /who/ finally stop when the show is inevitably cancelled after her first season?
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Nice article by Colin: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/17/colin-baker-doctor-who-female-lead-doctor-jodie-whittaker-inspire-fans
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>>85076901
More like the exile of nearly every fan.
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>>85077382
I doubt it, it'll probably just switch to trying to pretend that her first season is good.
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>>85077382
>Who is cancelled before I am dead
Good now I don't have to worry about stories written after I am dead.
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>>85077292
Kris Marshall is going to be the companion.
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>>85077382
It stopped the second they announced it. We're now /tumblr/ - Doctor Who General.
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>>85077539
You can always watch it in heaven.
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Reminder that if you care about forced 'diversity' then you have to vote with your wallet. If you buy a single Doctor Who thing for the next 3 years then you're supporting the choice.

That's only if you care about it.
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>>85076901
Professor Litefoot's dead, guys.
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>>85077569
>tfw you end up in Heaven without new Doctor Who
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/photos/first-woman-was-cast-doctor-who-here-are-26-best-reactions

>"'Dr. Who can't be a woman' says guys who watch a show where phone booths still exist."

We are doomed.
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What will 13's personality be like? Will she be an overtly feminist voice? Will she scream 'yaaaas queen slay' every time she kills a Cyberman?

These are questions we must ask ourselves.
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>>85077591
Can I still buy Tennant things
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>>85077390

People keep saying this but I bet most still watch. The amount of people I’ve seen hate Moffat and Capaldi yet still watch it is crazy
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>>85077641
>smosh
>relevant
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No more fujobait for a while, not sure how I feel about this.
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How do we purge the broflakes on this general?
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Scaroth reporting in.
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She's going to have Evelyn Smythe's personality. Screencap this.
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IMPORTANT POLL

http://www.strawpoll.me/13456541
http://www.strawpoll.me/13456541
http://www.strawpoll.me/13456541
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>>85077382
>implying anybody at the BBC will dare cancel their new flagship feminist primetime programme
If only JNT had thought of it.
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>>85077211
Moff said TBB was his worst episode and he was right until The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe

The Pilot was also GOAT while Smile was comfy-I-guess-but-kinda-shite
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>>85077805
feminist in what sense? the 21st century sense?
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>tfw no doctor with a feminine penis
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>>85077673

Hope she keeps the northern accent, like 9
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>>85077821
I thought the ending to TBB was really comfy :(
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>>85077851
Forget simple equality, we're talking Tumblr, dyed red hair, you're a white male!!!111 levels of feminism!
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>>85077856
Don't fret.

Look at all these normies assuming the Doctor's gender just because they think xe looks like a woman in the teaser.
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>>85077357
The doctor also says several times in the show that he either forgot his real age or is lying about it.
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>>85077699
>but I bet most still watch
Depends on how they write the character. If she's a (female) Doctor, where for all intents and purposes she's not much different from any of the previous ones, only with a pair of breasts, most won't mind. But if they decide to write her as a female Doctor, where her character devolves into the writers wanking themselves off over their 'brave' choice, then I think quite a few people will get turned off and stop watching.
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>>85077895
well then fuck no, you didn't state it in the poll though

hype for jodie tho
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>>85078021
Hype for Jodie as long as the show doesn't do a Ghostbusters on us.
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>tfw no missy
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Milo is a Doctor Who fan apparently. The top comments from his Facebook page, presented without comment;

>"You don't make strong female role models for girls by stealing strong male role models from boys. Wonder woman is kicking ass in Hollywood right this very moment, not because she stole superman's cape, but because she is a badass in her own right and she got to be the hero in her very own movie, instead of horning in on somebody else's movie."

>"When the show tanks, the show-runners will claim bigoted white men leaving the fandom, when in fact, it will be women leaving the show. BET ON IT! Women are fans of the show in such large numbers because The Doctor is a Uber-Strong male role model."

>"I don't care, if she's good and she was picked as a logical choice I'm sold. But if they did it only to pander to the increasing SJW pressure and fanbase (and I sadly think it is) then I'm going to be hugely disappointed."

>"What self respecting doctor has an operating table in their kitchen?"

>"Exactly. I'm done. It seems they are more interested in political correctness lately. She may be a great actress, and I'm sorry that my sense of "do it for the right reasons" overrides my "she's the first female Doctor", but the Doctor Who franchise just sold out to the SJW snowflakes in my opinion."

>"I am so outraged i can not even think about it .. I never thought such an amazing show would let politics ruin something so fantastic.. I am so disappointed"

>This won’t be the problem. The problem will be going back to a male Doctor. Mark my words- never gonna happen. And if the ratings are balls past the first six episodes it’ll be “sexist” and “we’re not giving up!” kinda garbage. Mark it.
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Who gives a fuck what kiddyfucker Milo thinks
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Does this mean that Romana is never coming back?
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>>85078212

>"What self respecting doctor has an operating table in their kitchen?"

You can tell this guy is a fan who watches regularly
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>>85078212
>You don't make strong female role models for girls by stealing strong male role models from boys. Wonder woman is kicking ass in Hollywood right this very moment, not because she stole superman's cape, but because she is a badass in her own right and she got to be the hero in her very own movie, instead of horning in on somebody else's movie.
He's not wrong there.
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>>85078212
milo is fucking retarded, even his face says so
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>>85078293
No one's stolen a fucking role model

You've got fifty fucking years of male doctor to watch
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>>85077977
This is where I'd sarcastically comment about how we're going to end up watching The Doctor taking on the shadowy alien cabal that makes up the patriarchy, but that would probably err to close to Poe's law.
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Solution?

Cancel the show. It's had its day.
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>>85076901
Trevor Baxter died yesterday according to Big Finish's page. They then deleted the obituary five minutes later. Hope it's false alarm.
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Daily Reminder that even Patrick Troughton said that a woman or a non white actor or actress could be the doctor

https://youtu.be/lMZuVfQgRCo
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A lot of the complaints are baffling, it’s like most don’t even watch the show. If the Doctor was a human who couldn’t change his whole body and if they hadn’t just pulled off a really good female master I’d kind of understand the complaints.
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>>85077617
>it's real
https://twitter.com/TobyHadoke/status/886925426861453313
Fuck.

RIP Trevor Baxter 1932-2017
Briggs literally worked him to death.
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>>85077821

Can I have sauce please?

I liked TBB too
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>>85078361

Solution to what? There’s no problem, if the writing’s shit that’s another story
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>Romana and the Rani never
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>>85078388
He's such a handsome old man.
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>>85078396
>A lot of the complaints are baffling, it’s like most don’t even watch the show
no shit sherlock
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>>85078212

>"You don't make strong female role models for girls by stealing strong male role models from boys. Wonder woman is kicking ass in Hollywood right this very moment

Aw yeh, gotta signal that virtue of totally not disliking women in media.
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>>85078396
See, the thing is, I don't think they DID pull of a "really good female master".

I thought Missy was a great character (and I love Michelle Gomez), but she might as well have been a new character for all the difference it would have made.

I hear her most often referred to as like "a demented Mary Poppins," which is not at all how I would describe the character of the Master.

Maybe Colin Baker.
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>>85078212
>implying a pedophiles opinions are important
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>>85078670
Nice source.
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>>85078670
>152 copies in the UK
It's not even sold in the UK
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You know, I keep forgetting there are even Doctors past Tennant. I just don't think of anyone else as the Doctor.
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>>85078365
Looking at the Big Finish website, they haven't even announced the next Jago & Litefoot boxset, which is usually out in October.
I have a bad feeling abou this.
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>>85078584
Probably the biggest difference in characterisation is the difference between One and Ten.
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>>85078762
www.tumblr.com
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>>85078584
Personalities change between incarnations, though. Missy was great, and she was the Master in a female form. She was a great female Master. So what if she didn't act quite like the previous Master's, that's the point.
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>>85078762
Not even qtpie Matt?
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tfw you realize that when jodie regenerates at the end of her run, if the next doctor is a dude he'll be in chick's clothing
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So I missed the news, did James Corden get announced as the Thirteenth Doctor yet?
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>>85078847
matt a qt
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>>85077673
why has his knee got a massive boner
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Meanwhile I'm still beating myself to Pearl Mackie's THICC lips.
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>>85078797
Why would tumblr like David Tennant in particular?
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>Trevor Baxter died
I literally never bought a Jago and Litefoot audio but fuck that's depressing
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>>85078764
And Series 13 ended on a cliffhanger, with the duo getting stranded on a parallel Earth with airships in the sky... might be Pete's World.
And that after Series 12 ended without a cliffhanger. Dash it.

So, faux-Companion Chronicles box set where Jago, Ellie and Quick meet at thr Red Tavern to hear how Jago got back and the Professor made his last stand? Or maybe Jago's son returning instead of his dead to tell the story of how the duo went together, not alone? ;_;
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>>85078907
I miss comfy Craig.
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>>85078977
Everybody dies
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>>85079001
Some just need a little help.
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>>85078815
She was similar to MacQueen's Master on BF.
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>>85078955
Because he's incredibly attractive and his whole run was romantic fanfic

>>85078914
qt
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>>85078493

I’m mainly talking about people saying they’re dropping the show without even giving her a chance, a lot of them do watch the show, saying they’re sick of Moffat and stuff, despite Chibnall casting her. It’s established, it was going to happen sooner or later.
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>>85079026
This. Ides Institute anyone? The depth of that planning.
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>>85078388

He was not talking about the character regenerating, he was talking about a sex change or turning the Doctor into a tranny.

> "Greater numbers of all sorts of things, which ofcourse you can cut if you want to"
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>>85078871
Why do Brits seem to love crossdressing so much?

The Family Guy makes me reflect on that cutaway they did where it's two British men discussing what is funny and they say "a man in women's clothing" and now I cannot help but think this is true.
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>>85079084
Beware the march of Ides!
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>>85079108
>Family Guy
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>>85079077
>It’s established, it was going to happen sooner or later.

Yeah, by Moffat. You know. Everyone's favourite showrunner, who always makes great changes to Doctor Who lore that everyone loves.
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>>85079138
>reading a fantasy book and one of the characters has dark eyes
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>>85078871

> Thinking the Doctor will ever be male again.

No. It would be deemed as sexist to switch back and people will just complain if the next Doctor is not a different race.

Just now they will say "We've had a male and female Doctor, but now we need a black Doctor"
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>>85078907
Someone once said that James Corden couldn't be The Doctor because he doesn't have range. Well, how the fuck do we know Jodi Whittaker has the range to be The Doctor? I'm still afraid they selected a terrible actor to continue this character and I get this way whenever a new one is announced.
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>>85079175
looking forward to a dog doctor
dogtor whoof
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>>85079088
I refuse to believe I live in a world someone is this fucking retarded.
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>>85079189
K9 is better than you all.
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>>85079189
bork bork

Would he have a doggy door to get into the TARDIS?
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>>85079153
Can Moffat still be the one who was the first to cast a female Doctor? I know it was part of a comedy spoof and non-canon, but he might have implanted this idea into Chibnall.
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>>85079088
Do you even watch this show?
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>>85079195
Please do watch the video, hear him discuss the gender swap as being cutting off varying aspects of the Doctor, then do come back and try desperately to not sound like a total retard.
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>>85078328
>having it for a long time means i can take it from you and it isnt stealing
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tfw no Doctor and Master romance.
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tfw no Master NTRing the Doctor with his companion
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>>85079230
truly this is the final moffucking
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Question about regeneration, we know Time Lords can regenerate into a different gender, but can they also regenerate into something that is less human looking? Like an alien species or even an established Who species? What if that species had only one or multiple genders? Would they be able to regenerate into those too?
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>>85079256
>tfw no 11th/13th doctor romance
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>>85079108
It's a leftover fetish from the days of men having to dress up as women in the theatre. Maybe. A lot of our culture has its roots in the theatre. We never admit it but we're a pretty gay country desu.
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>>85079255
Nothing has been stolen

It's all still there
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>>85079282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIscL-Bjsq4
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>>85079285
I want a Bannakaffalatta Doctor
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>>85079175
Did you ever notice how there are only black and white Time Lords? Apart from Cho Je/K'anpo Rinpoche, there haven't been any Asian Time Lords depicted on TV, ever. There weren't even any Chinese in Thin Ice, even though the population of Limehouse would've been Asian as fuck. Only Blackies and Pakis in that "historically diverse" population.
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>>85078293
If the Doctor was your role model, wouldn't you be a good person?
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Here's an interesting question I haven't seen raised yet: Will the Thirteenth Doctor still be attracted to women (like her previous four selves)?

If not that's a clear example of homophobic whitewashing, right? But then will Chibnall really have the balls to make Doctor Who a lesbian? It's questions like this that make me feel justified in my belief that the Doctor should always have stayed, more or less, asexual. Philip Segal started the overt sexualisation of the Doctor, RTD continued it and Moffat has been by far the worst perpetrator of it.
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>>85079256
They made that canon in series 10.

>>85079231
Moffat introduced the idea of a gender swap in his era, previously it was not even remotely teased in the show.

The only other comments teasing it were from the BBC who were desperate for views that they promoted the idea that a woman could be the Doctor - even though it's on record that they never interviewed a female for the role until interviewing for the 11th Doctor.
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>>85079290
>‘I knew Puccini once,’ sighed Eight,
>‘He had the softest lips.’ That’s great,
>But stay away from me, you sissy,’
>Four looked cautious, Eight looked kissy.
>Three o’clock, the Queen appeared,
>The Third, all patriotic, cheered,
>But Eight, lips puckered, mistletoe handy,
>Went for the clown and got the dandy.
>Tried again to get the clown,
>But got a slap, so settled down.
The fact that the Doctor wants to fuck himself is already canon.

>>85079285
Miles Lawrence has the TLs regenerate into less human forms during the Time War, iirc especially in The Taking of Planet 5
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>>85079336
Fucking 9 flirted with Jack

It's not new
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Will any piece of media survive the libcuckian onslaught, lads?
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>>85079285
Even if they could, would The Doctor be able to regenerate like this on account that he/she is half human?
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reminder that the doctor kissed rory
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>>85079359
*lawrence miles
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>>85079285
Romana "tried on" some alien looking "regenerations," but I hear that scene isn't highly regarded.

Still canon though.
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>>85079336
The Doctor would be pansexual much like Jack Harkness.
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>>85079367
Really, when? You think the Doctor is bi/pansexual then?
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>>85079282
>>85079304

To be fair he did plan it from the start.

> Master with breasts
> Daleks made into a joke
> Daleks asking the Doctor for help
> Master/Doctor teased as having a romance
> Doctor regenerates into blonde woman


It was all something he planned in his parody and made a reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do-wDPoC6GM
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>>85079189
>dog makes no sense!
>cats have 9 lives
>after 13, the Doctor will have 9 regenerations left!
>it was foreshadowed with Six! The Doctor is Cat-kin!
>Meow! Meow! Meow! Cat-Doctor now!
>Your Doctor has a pussy? Mine is!
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>>85078212
kek thanks anon I like her even more now
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Is it wrong that I liked Missy?

Is the reason why they let her go due to a female Doctor being inbound?
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>>85079383
In a Chibnall episode no less
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>>85079256
>tfw no Doctor and Master romance
Good.exe

Woe betide them, if they ever take the complex and difficult-to-comprehend form of love between the Doctor and Master and reduce it down to a palatable romance storyline with kissing and sentimentality. It's just not worth it.
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>>85079453
Missy is a fucking MILF. I don't blmae you
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>>85079422
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>>85079453
Missy is fucking GOAT, there's nothing wrong with liking her. Michelle Gomez is perfect for the role.
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>>85079486
>Woe betide them, if they ever take the complex and difficult-to-comprehend form of love between the Doctor and Master and reduce it down to a palatable romance storyline with kissing and sentimentality. It's just not worth it.

Season 10 did this. How did you miss it?
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>>85079285
Romana regenerated into that blue woman at one point, so I have to assume it doesn't need to be strictly human but they keep it like that for convenience's sake.
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>>85079453
I thought Missy was great, until they suddenly had her "turn good" for no particular reason.

Hell, this was always my favourite moment of hers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKdd7fLwszg
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>>85078212
Who the fuck gives a shit about that fucking faggot?

Why is he so highly praised like he's the second coming of Jesus Christ?
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>>85079336
It'll probably have yuribaiting like a lot of anime but they won't go anywhere with it. Like the Doctor and Master had a lot of fujobaiting.
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>>85079475
well for what it's worth, the kiss wasn't in the script, so chibnall had nothing to do with it. matt smith just decided on the day to kiss arthur and they went with it.
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>>85079522
I thought we try to pretend that scene never happened
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I just made a giant masterpiece for all the greatest world newspaper nerds"
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>>85079498
Is it wrong that I am thinking Eccleston is my all time favorite Doctor even before Capaldi?
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>>85079542
Keep in mind she was stuck in the vault for several decades

Moffat has an obnoxious habit of making large amounts of time pass without actually feeling like it
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>>85079581
Nope.

He was fantastic.
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>>85076901

Pretty obvious now that Marshall is the new Brig.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj-adgqk1S0
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>>85079581
Eccleston was a great Doctor (although I reckon there's some bias because he's the first Doctor I watched).
Just wished he returned for the 50th.
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>>85079542
So yandere.
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>>85078388
Cheeky chap
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joanna lumley should have been 13
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>>85079336
I think there's an questionable implicit assumption in this. The fact he's only ever been paired off with women doesn't necessarily prove he was only ever limited to women. Personally I'm skeptical that the concept even applies here, let alone that it would definitely persist across regenerations.

I don't expect to see a romance storyline for 13 any time soon anyway, it would feel a bit "oh she's a woman so we have to do one" after Capaldi's relatively sex free tenure, so I doubt it poses a serious problem. Having said that, if they do start pairing her off, it probably will be with men just out of a subconscious pressure to not 'alienate the straights'
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>>85079175
Well he may be black but the Doctor will still be a man again
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>>85079732
No that's Tilda Swinton.
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>>85079661
I just realized, does this Jodi Whittaker is actually the fifteenth incarnation because of the War Doctor and the Meta-Crisis Doctor?
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>>85079737
>River Song regenerates into man
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With all the SJW nonsense present today, I think now was a bad time for them to make the doctor a woman. It will make people anticipate them trying to fill the show with SJW propaganda, whether or not they will end up doing that. The fact that the companion in the most recent season was specifically a lesbian, and the fact that Bill was talking about Timelord gender in a similar way that people talk about transgenderism seems like a forced attempt to spread "diversity" and worries me that the show is going down a bad path. I love this show and hope they don't focus on the 13th doctor's gender when writing the script. I can just imagine them going to some time period and one of the characters saying something like "what how is a woman going to save us" and the doctor being all "haha well woman are actually strong!11!!!!1" or something like that. That would be very lazy writing and if you have to resort to propaganda like that when you're directing a show, you should find another occupation
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>>85079732
I would have preferred that by a mile
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>>85079181
Watch stuff with her like broadchurch I guess, see if you like her
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>>85079737
>after Capaldi's relatively sex free tenure
he spent 24 years banging river on darillium
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>>85079783
14th distinct incarnation, 15th life
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>>85079757

Nope, because if it goes back to being a man you can be certain that people will think they are reacting to the fans complaints.
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>>85079542
Same. I loved Missy when she was revelling in her badness. Though her death was beautifully tragic.
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>>85079607
>Moffat has an obnoxious habit of making large amounts of time pass without actually feeling like it

Has someone made the "X who waited" list yet?

Madame de Pompadour waited for decades.
Amy did too. Both as a child and in some kind of... alternate dimension? Reality? (I forget, that episode sucked)
Rory waited for several thousand years as a plastic Roman.
The Doctor travelled around without them for a few centuries? For some reason?
Then he spent several BILLION years in the confession dial.

He's good at making time seem to not matter much, in a show that's all about time.
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>>85079737
Can we get a relationship between a male companion and Jodi that feels adorable and natural like the relationship between Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman and Chris Pine's Steve Trevor?

It feels like the only relationship in this series that got close to that was Ten and Donna.
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>>85079453
Moffat probably wanted to give her character an ending & closure before leaving. Gomez herself said she wanted to be the version specific to Peter & co. rather than drag on after everyone else goes.

I really don't think there was some fear of having both a female Doctor and Master, it's not like they're banned from having multiple women on screen for a couple of episodes.

And no it's not wrong that you liked Missy, she was a great new phase for the character even if her last story arc was a bit contrived.
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>>85078762
Tbh Tennant was the least Doctor Doctor, he was more like a superintelligent human what with the romance and everything and had little alien about him. Not saying he was bad, he was a great Doctor but he didn't feel like the others.
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>>85079813
Seen a bit of broadchurch, she seemed 'ok' but nothing special.

I did not particularly want Kris Marshall as the Doctor, but he could act rings around Jodie whittaker
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>>85079829
But...

War Doctor = 9th Incarnation
Ninth Doctor = 10th Incarnation
Tenth Doctor = 11th & 12th Incarnation
Eleventh Doctor = 13th Incarnation (end of first cycle)
Twelfth Doctor = 14th Incarnation
Thirteenth Doctor = 15th Incarnation

Doesn't War and Meta-Crisis count as a full regeneration?
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i dont what a female only tardis but i also dont want a beta faggot companion male.

the only companion that would work with 13 for me is captain jack or someone else who is strong in their own right
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this is going to be the last Doctor who series, isn't it.
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>>85079899
Tennant and Smith were the Doctor's midlife crisis regenerations.
And in the case of Tennant he had a midlife meta-crisis.
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>>85079929
You are correct.
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>>85079929
No because they are stupid and non canon
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>>85079929
*distinct* incarnation
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>>85079840
That was the best (only good?) part of that episode.

In any multi-Doctor episode, the various reincarnations of the Doctor help each other to uncover the mystery and save the day.

In the only multi-Master episode, they dick themselves over. Because of course they would.
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>>85079934
Except you cannot have Jack flirt with the new Doctor otherwise you risk angering the feminist fanbase who are now going to be the majority watching the show.
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so she's basically going to be a male character in a female body right?
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>>85079987
>the majority watching the show

not true
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>>85079948
>midlife meta-crisis

kek

>Ten didn't know what part of his life he was in so he just had an ongoing crisis
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>>85079992

Pretty much, any attempt to have her be a female character would simply come off as sexist.

If she flirts then it'll alienate a lot of people.
If people flirt with her then it'll alienate a lot of people.

They've put themself into a corner where they could essentially fuck over the entire show with just a single line of dialogue.
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>>85079948
So by the time we get to the end of this next regeneration he'll be a old man. Will we get a grumpy Doctor again?
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>>85079987
Correction, you can't have Jack fuck the new Doctor. But Jack continuing his long habit of flirting with every attractive character is not going to ruffle any feathers
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>>85079992
The best kind of woman
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>>85079987

You remember that episode of the Simpsons where the feminists get sprayed with Duff Beer, and their protest signs turn into signs that say "I'm Easy" and "Get Me Drunk"?

Jack Harkness is Duff Beer.
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>>85080023
Only people on twitter defending the decision are feminists.

Main actress playing the Doctor is a self-confessed feminist
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>>85080040
WHO
KNOWS
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>>85080032
>any attempt to have her be a female character would simply come off as sexist.
Like...
>If she flirts
>If people flirt with her

Mate. There are other ways you can write a character as feminine.
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>>85080058
>>85080071

Pretty much an example of why they cannot have Jack interact with the new Doctor.
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>>85080081
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>>85080024
He had a had lif
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>>85079948
But Whittaker is also young so what would she be?

>>85080040
Isn't it implied that he regenerates back into Tom Baker and becomes The Curator?
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>>85080108

Those are two aspects that were written into every incarnation of the Doctor since the War Doctor.

(You) have just demonstrated why those aspects cannot be transferred to the new Doctor, as they would be viewed as sexist or stereotypical.
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>>85080136
She's 35. I think that's about the right age for a female Doctor.
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>>85080096
>>85080136
Forgot about that. Assuming that's canon pretty comfy ending isn't it
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>>85080129
I-is that Capaldi?
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>>85080129
Ok, feminists and cucked beta-males desperately trying not to offend feminists.
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desu Whittaker looks really clueless a lot of the time. Like in most clips and pictures she just has the look of "i dont have a fucking clue what is going on" on her face. Not really what I would associate with The Doctor.
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>>85080186
It's Pedro Pacaldi
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>>85080187
so capaldi is a cucked beta male?
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>>85080194
she looks pre good in this desu
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>>85080213
That smile is so heartwarming, it makes me realise how much Twelve suffered as a Doctor ;_;
>he never even found out that Missy had turned good at the end
Shit.
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>>85080194

That's how she was in Broadchurch also.
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>>85080129
BASED
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>>85080241
The whoodie is amazing
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>>85080194
At least she's not pulling this face 90% of the time.
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>>85080247
I mean, that was because she lost his son to a fucking pedophile who was also the husband of his best mate. I'd be pretty clueless of life too.

>>85080274
No argument.
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>>85080233

Considering how he got ass-fucked with shitty character development and writing and how he was basically hired for the sole purpose of having an older Doctor with 'angry eyes'...

Yes, yes he is a cucked beta-male.
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>>85080242
headcanon: he felt the knife in her sleeve and put two and two together
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>>85080194
I am excited for 13's new faces
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>>85080241
in the trailer itself she looks a bit off though
and that image is really one of the few images of her I've seen like that. in interviews, in films, and in photos she just looks fucking clueless
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>>85080296
Personally i'd be angry if i lost a son to a pedo. I would'nt constantly look bored, dazed or simply uninterested in what was happening.

She came across like she viewed herself as better than the other actors around her at all times, and that seems supported by her dialogue in the interviews about the 13th Doctor role.
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>>85080323
I hope so but I can't imagine him liking that sort of solution.
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>>85080352
He himself killed another Time Lord
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>>85080351
She was angry when she needed too, eg: when she was confronting that slag that her husband cheated with.

>I would'nt constantly look bored, dazed or simply uninterested in what was happening.
That sounds like depression and she was probably depressed too anon.
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>>85080374
Clearly he makes the best faces

I'd would absolutely without question let him put his penis inside of me
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>>85080414
A characteristic of depression is anhedonia: inability to feel pleasure in normally pleasurable activities.
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>>85080414

You say that it's probably depression, yet she is the exact same in every other programme she is in.
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>>85080421
Sexy desu
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>>85079856
>Then he spent several BILLION years in the confession dial.
To be fair that's one case where it *did* feel like that much time had passed, also it's not like the Doctor was getting old throughout that time, he kept "resetting" himself every couple days or so.
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still wish we had valeyard tennant instead
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KRIS MARSHALL IS THE NEXT COMPANION

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

;))))))))))

xoxoxoxoxo

luv u /who/
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>>85079856
you forgot the 900 years on trenzalore too
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>>85077156
audios are basically tv canon at this point
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>>85080441
Only one ok.

>>85080453
Adult Life Skills pretty comfy. But yeah I agree that we haven't much of her range from the gigs she has made, probably they saw something in her audition.
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>>85080491
It really depends upon whether or not those people were going to find streams that aren't from iplayer and shit. I myself torrent all my episodes.
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>>85080491
JODIE JODIE SHE'S OUR GIRL
IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT YOURSELF KILL
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>>85079088
>This amount of mental gymnastics

Stay mad broflake
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>>85080532
Nah, that would be James Corden.
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>>85080508
We still could, the Valeyard could be a separate entity to the Doctor
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>>85080508
Watch Jessica Jones, next best thing
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>>85080548
>The one time you should've written "grill"

Curl yourself my man.
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>>85080536
You can remember all the characteristics of depression by SAD-A-FACES

Sleep – insomnia or hypersomnia
appetite/weight ↓/↑ 5%
depressed/irritable mood
anhedonia
Fatigue and anergia
agitation or retardation – psychomotor
concentration ↓
esteem – low, guilt, hopelessness
suicidal thoughts

at least 5 for minimum of 2 wks with one of depressed/irritiable mood OR anhedonia
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You are now realizing that Jodi Whittaker is now the sixth incarnation that NuWho has had if you count John Hurt and exclude the Meta-Crisis Doctor. Which means there is only one more before total cancellation and two more if you exclude John Hurt.
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>>85080601
I'm Scottish, that's how we say it
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>>85080491
I'm impressed actually. Youtube dislikes & comments have long been the dominion of reeeing reactionaries, it's nice to see the ratio anywhere above 1:1
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>>85079920

Watch her in other things, like Attack the block, or that play she’s in with Eccleston, it’s online, she plays an eccentric in Adult Like skills. She’s great, miles better than Kris who I don’t think would be a bad Doctor.
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RIP Trevor Baxter
https://www.bigfinish.com/news/v/rip-trevor-baxter-from-jago-and-litefoot-and-doctor-who
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>>85080615
Yeah no way anyone could remember that off the top of their heads, who made this?
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>>85080241
Remove the Hoodie and she'll be fine
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next companion 100%
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>>85077156
Hasn't that already pretty much happened? Besides McGann's audio companions being called out by name in Night of the Doctor, I'm sure there were some oblique references to audios dotted here and there as well
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>>85080681
She already stated that will not be her costume.
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>>85079453
>>85079542
Missy was only GOAT in series 10.

>>85079856
>he doesnt like The Girl Who Waited
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>>85080615
Thank you kind anon.

S- check
A- check
D- check
A- check
F- check
A- check
C- check
E- check
S- mild

Fuck.
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>>85080617
It's the SPLINK of our generation desu
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>>85080717
did you not notice that spelled out 'sadfaces' or are you just retarded
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>>85080718
Wtf is SPLINK?
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>>85079987
stop inventing nonsensical situations retard
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>>85080764
http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/SPLINK
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>>85080754
I did. I don't see the relevance.
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>>85080717
;_;
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>>85080636
>Trevor has been an invaluable part of Big Finish and since May 2009 the Jago and Litefoot series has delighted listeners and remained a fan favourite, the last volume to be recorded was released just this year. With 13 series in 8 years, Trevor and Christopher have been some of our most prolific and joyful performers.


So they have no conclusion and are forever stranded on Pete's World.
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what happened to "the oncomming storm"?
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>>85080491
Alientating 1/3rd of fans at a time when ratings and viewership are at the lowest its been since revival...
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>>85080837
All of that was set-up for the arrival of a female Doctor who would destroy the fanbase.
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>>85080837
He came.
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>>85080885
Inside the 13th Doctor
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>>85080837
The doctor isnt that important he's just a madman with a funny box, a much better title I think.
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>>85080838
But new doctors alienate half the fans all the time. People are pretending this isnt normal
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>>85080837
I'm not sure what you mean, it was literally just an alternative nickname for the Doctor.
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>>85079336
The safer bet would be making her completely asexual, I mean, it took 7 doctors before he got really romantic.
This is the first female doctor so they have to slowly sell us on her, because even people who like the idea are still weirded out by it. They can't just go all out on her
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>>85080916

Viewership and ratings increased from Eccleston to Tennant, so it's not always the case.

It is not normal to swap the gender of an iconic character over 50 years into the show's history. People pretending this is normal are dumb.
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WILL TUDOR OR WE RIOT
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>>85080964
in a show where it has been established as possible for years, its completely normal. It's more jarring when he was played by Matt Smith in his early 20's to be honest. I personally dont see the big deal at all
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>>85080491
>1/3 of the fanbase is already extremelly negative
I really wouldn't want to be Chibbers right now, he's got to knock it out of the park with her first episode.

It's kinda scary how much of a risk this is. They've got the attention and interest of viewers, but it's such a fragile enviroment it's 8 or 80. Jodie will either save or kill Doctor Who, there's no middle ground.
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What is the best Big Finish audio drama from the first fifty in the main range, /who/?
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jodies accent is adorable desu
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>>85080964
>It is not normal to swap the gender of an iconic character over 50 years into the show's history. People pretending this is normal are dumb.
It's not normal to swap the actor and personality of a character. Hasn't stopped them yet, won't stop them any time soon. People pretending this isn't pretty much normal for Doctor Who are dumb.
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>>85081115
Chimes of Midnight
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>>85081115
Chimes of Midnight knocks all of them out of the box. It's amazing.
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>6 months until christmas 18 months until series 11

I just want to find out if Jodie and Chibbers are good already
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>>85080816
This is what happens when you make every release end in a cliffhanger and you plan to go on forever with no end in sight to wring out every last sale.
Baxter's death is sad, but the range was always going to end in a cliffhanger and BF has only themselves to blame. If it hadn't been this series, it would have been series 17, or 25, or 32.
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>>85081115
Master.
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>>85081147
>jodie is adorable
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>>85078365
It's real. Litefoot has passed.
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>>85081032

> It's a show where it has been established only as recently as 2010 as a possibility by a writer who is not particularly appreciated amongst the fanbase

FTFY

>>85081083
Chibbers might not even get a chance, it all rides on the introduction Moffat is going to give the character in the Christmas special and the handling of the transfer from one to the other.

Heck, even if the transfer is done well the BBC will market the shit out of the Doctor being female and that'll just keep on causing massive debates and arguements between the fans.

Jodie wont kill the fanbase, but the fanbase could kill each other based on how the BBC is handling this. It was perhaps the most idiotic decision of all time to introduce the actor during the Men's Finals and even more idiotic not to give us a chance to see a scene of her as the 13th Doctor.

People needed to see her as a well-written character instead the only thing we know is that she is an 'ok' actress who is female.
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>>85081159

> Gender swapping an iconic character is the same as just having a new male actor

You are basically saying is that it would be the same situation if the next James Bond was female, because he's been played by other males actors with different personalities in the past.
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>>85081321
how long ago has it been established that the doctor can turn into any alien race?

Moffat forces his shitty lore a tonne but this isnt a part of it
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>>85081115
Hard question. Jubilee/Spare Parts/ Chimes/all of the villains trilogy would be good answers.
I'm going with Jubilee first and Master second.
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>>85081384
But it would be, since we know it's not the same James Bond each time. And it's most likely gonna eventually happen anyways so prepare for it from now I guess.
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>>85081083
>Jodie will either save or kill Doctor Who, there's no middle ground.
I really doubt that, I think there is a perfectly sizeable window for a mediocre continuation in the event that everyone tunes in, sees her first episode, and just thinks "okay".
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>>85081400

Race is not Gender.

Moffat added Gender to the list of things that could change.
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CHIBNALL IS SAVING DOCTOR WHO
LET HIM FOR GODS SAKE
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>>85081321
Moffat wrote Matt's scene in End of Time, so Chibnall will probably do the same for Jodie
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>>85081451
Hence why this is completely pandering.

Now we have a female Doctor, we'll start seeing other iconic characters swap gender simply to pander also.

Even (You) are now trying to push for a female James Bond.
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>>85081400
In the original version of Human Nature the aliens offered the TLs wings and in the Taking of Planet Five the TLs essentially rewrote their biodata to become better warriors.
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NEW
>>85081499
>>85081499
>>85081499
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>>85081474
Getting NuWho cancelled will save Doctor Who, so you're right. LET CHINBALLS SAVE IT
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NEW THREAD >>85081514

NEW THREAD >>85081514

NEW THREAD >>85081514

NEW THREAD >>85081514

NEW THREAD >>85081514
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>>85081496
I'm not pushing it, I'm saying it's going to happen. I dont even care either way, Idont watch James Bond. But I have watched Who for years and dont mind this either.
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Who will write the VNA's of the second wilderness years?
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>>85081476

That was because they had all left early because everyone was leaving the show at the time. Originally the regeneration was going to be fully filmed by RTD but he left a day earlier than planned believing it was better for the next crew to handle it.
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>>85081520
Thank you.
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>>85081083
>>85080491
>>85080838

The people who disliked it are people who do not normally watch who
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I just realized that if Jodi Whittaker is contracted for three seasons then that means the 13th Doctor will regenerate in Series 13.
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>>85081550
If youd actually read the writers tale youd know thats not true.
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>>85081599

> Everyone who dislikes it was never a fan/does not watch it.

Keep using that as a reason while the viewing figures keep dropping by millions each season.
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Friendly reminder this was Sidney's wish

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/07/17/sydney-newman-co-creator-doctor-told-bbc-cast-woman-1986/
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>>85081618
The writers tale conflicts with statements and aspects he said at the time, so i'm fairly certain it cannot be viewed as accurate.
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>>85081321
>Chibbers might not even get a chance, it all rides on the introduction Moffat is going to write the character in the Christmas special and the handling of the transfer from one to the other.
Chib will write her first lines in Christmas like Moff wrote Smith's first lines in The End of Time.
But you are right about the transition. Smith's era suffered from how unsupportive 10's regeneration was. And even then there's the offchance that Moff writes something it in that's considered "pandering".
The first phase of the female doctor will be the hardest to nail and the easiest to crumble.

>>85081452
Maybe I'm just being too dramatic but I'm legitimely nervous about this, and I like the casting choice and was actually rooting for her.
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>>85080335
Why does her coat remind me of Nine?
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>>85078293
He is wrong. The character is a role model for both genders and, as such, can be both genders.

You don't have to be male to be a male role model...

You don't have to be female to be a female role model...

The Doctor will continue to be a role model, Milo will continue to be a malodorous twunt who does not understand the show or fiction in general.
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>>85081683

*Sydney

> Newman proposed an educational children’s science fiction series entitled Doctor Who

If this had actually happened the show would be more like Bill Nye the science guy. Ignoring Sydney's wishes is what led the show to be the cultural icon it was.
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>>85081771
>malodorous twunt
you're trying too hard
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>>85081696
It has the actual emails of Moffat and RTD discussing how to handle the changeover.
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>>85081698
As you mentioned though, the transition will be an issue alongside the fact we'll have at least 6-9 months between the regeneration and season 11.

If they mess up on the introduction and/or the trailer for the new series then people will simply leave the Doctor Who fanbase. Especially considering a Doctor leaving is the time when fans are most likely to leave anyway.
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>>85081875
Once again, an email discussion VS RTD's official tweets, DVD commentary, etc...
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>>85081771
Why is that tranny Milo worshipped so much?
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>>85081924
Well Moff's already said Chibbs will be writing 13's first scene.
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I heard a rumor that James Corden was going to be the Thirteenth Doctor. I heard this from /who/. I think I missed the news of who it is. Is it really Corden?
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>>85079656
What the fuck is happening here? Why is Alex acting like a total spaz? Would his Doctor's main nemesis be the Monks?
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>>85082187
nah, he's the companion
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>>85082391
So who's the Thirteenth Doctor then? Does this mean he's returning as Craig?
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How long till the Doctor meets Jesus, takes his place on the cross, and regenerates after 3 days?
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>>85082391
You know, why do I kind of want to see Craig as 13's companion?

>>85082439
A woman by the name of Jodi Whittaker.

>>85082570
But Jesus was a Time Lord named The Shepard.
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>>85082596
>Jodi
it's Jodie
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>>85082596
> Whittaker
How do you say this name?
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>>85082636
Like Forest Whittaker.
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All right, children. Now that the timeDust has settled, what is Steven Moffat's best and worst episode from his run as Showrunner?

Also, why is it A Christmas Carol and The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe?
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Are these people retarded? Do they also believe that the Monk trilogy was the writers standing up against the BBC's propaganda without alarming the BBC?
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>>85082939
The Monk trilogy because it was the only time in the show's entire existence that didn't pander to the bullshit that BBC likes to brainwash their viewers with. These episodes expressed the importance of why we as a society shouldn't allow the consumption of media to make us slaves in the higher up's agendas. Not sure why the retards here hate this trilogy here, but I guess they are just too far gone to know the truth.
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>>85082307
>Why is Alex acting like a total spaz?
Because he is one?
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>>85083016
This is just a reminder.
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>>85080954
>They can't just go all out on her
>weirded out
We are talking about the people who gave us River Song.
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>>85083202
What was the response to that post?
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>>85083202
Just a reminder...
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>>85083814
So now we have the people who actually care about the show? Who's that leave, kids?
If you think it's Sci-fi, that got filtered out in series 1.




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