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>Movie takes place in the year 2049
>movie states that production of the nexus 9's began in the mid 2030's
>K knows that the child is at least 30 years old

Is K the most retarded detective in movie history?
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>>90224746
What? The child was born in 2021, and he saild almost 30 not at least 30. The child is not nexus 9.
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what the fuck did he mean by this
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OP you lack basic comprehension skills or what?
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>>90224746
Jesus Christ
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>Reserved and paid for a ticket to see this film tonight
>I was the third person to buy a seat in a 132 seats
>Fourth guy picks the spot immediately to my left
>There are literally 7 empty rows in the theater, some closer to and some further away from the screen
I don't know how to fucking handle this. I want to spit in his face tonight. I'll arrive early and at least hope he leaves a 1 seat room between us because if he don't then I'll have to move after he sits down next to me. Who the fuck does this shit? The whole point is that I wanted to go alone to get immersed because last time I had people fidgeting and slurping right next to me.
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>>90225375
If there's no one in the theater you can always sit somwhere else, no one is going to bother to check if you're sitting in the place you bought
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>>90225375
why not just move seats?
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>>90225375
Seriously? Just fucking move brainlet.
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>>90224746
>K
>wants a real name
>Joe
>Why not Kay?
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>>90225481
>>90225488
>>90225469
I'd have to walk down to the theatre because you can't do it online, and I'd rather not. I guess I will just take some other seat once I'm there without officially switching.

I want to avoid the situation of me sitting down, the other guy takes the seat right next to me, and me getting up to walk around to the row above. I'm annoyed that he wouldn't make that effort when ordering his ticket.
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>went to see blade runner 2049 today
>just before k meets deckard american guy starts moaning to his friend he wanted to see an action movie instead of some guy having an existential crisis
>Theater tells him to shut up
>they both leave angry

Why don't Americans appreciate cinema?
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>>90225553
Reserve and pay for another ticket to see this film tonight, then. Sit in that spot instead. Or just suck it up and sit next to the guy that will be munching on popcorn and checking his phone the entire time.
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>>90224746
??
what?
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>>90225665
>>90224790
>>90224811
>>90225150

How could he think he was the child if he's less than <15 years old?
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>>90225697
He's probably way younger than 15, he has no real memories of anything before he started working for his Robin Wright.
What he tells her is that the child was "set up as a service replicant on a standard job". So he thinks whoever hid him make him look like a standard blade runner. He took the memory as the ultimate proof even though it obviously wasn't because he wanted it to be true, it's called confrimation bias or delusion or whatever
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>>90225697
He didn't know if he was less than 15 years old or not.
The child isn't nexus 9.
K is led to believe that he is Nexus 9 and his memories are fake, but then started thinking he might be the child, if true then he wouldn't be Nexus 9, and thus older than he was led to believe.
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>>90225552
Have you watched the movie? Joi AI eventually will end up calling everyone a "Joe". It was a big part of K character development.
Jesus Christ i'm not surprised this movie bombed if these are the average comprehension skills of the people.
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>>90225697
Do you just choose to ignore important plot points or what?
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>>90225375
What the fuck are you doing? Just sit somewhere else? Who would even know or care?
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>>90225553
Stop pretending like you want to sit alone to "immerse yourself" it's clear from your post that you would have no friends to bring along anyway
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>>90227020
Because I went out of my way to get the exact spot I wanted and some fucking asshole decides to ruin it when he could have been the one to just sit somewhere else. I will move but it's still very annoying and stupid that someone would do that.
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>>90225375
What kind of theater has designated seats? Are you watching on a plane, why cant you just sit where you want?
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>>90224746
>thread takes place in 2017
>OP deliberately wants everyone to know that he's an actual mentally challenged brainlet
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>>90227199
Almost any theater outside of the US. And it's the best most practical thing ever, that anon is just an autist
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>>90227142
Odds are, even if the guy turns up he wouldn't sit next to you. Maybe he is just trying to fuck with you. Trying to express dominance by getting up in your grill in the virtual cinema seat menu. Or it could just be some turbo autist who hopes to find a friend.
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>>90227275
I can't believe you people would pick the assholes side over mine. I have a valid point. Any civilized person would pick another seat, it's like taking the urinal next to the only person in the bathroom, in a bathroom consisting of 132 urinals.
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>>90226110
You just did not understand the scene. The animeJoi doesn't call him Joe. He calls him a joe, as in a guy. It was a mere coincidence.
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>>90225375
kek, i often pick seats right next to others just for the laughs when they act like autists
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>>90226110
Why would she call him a Joe if she's his AI girlfriend?
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>>90227382
>>90227760

Too stupid, must be bait.
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>>90224746
It's not even clear if the child is a replicant or not seen of is not clear if Deckart is a replicant or not.
Watch the first movie ya dumb cunt.
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>>90228174
The mother of the child is a replicant though.
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>>90228232
A replicant with a womb.
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>>90227382
You really are truly a dumbass. Jesus Christ. No fucking dialogue in film is “just a coincidence” you dumb fuck
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>>90225553
>I want to avoid the situation of me sitting down, the other guy takes the seat right next to me, and me getting up to walk around to the row above. I'm annoyed that he wouldn't make that effort when ordering his ticket.
Why? You don't know this person. Why do you give a shit what they think?

If anything looking at him as he sits next to you, loudly sighing and moving to another row, is the CORRECT response because who the fuck picks a seat next to a TOTAL STRANGER when the ENTIRE REST OF THE THEATER is open, this person is weird and you should make him feel bad for being weird.
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>>90225375
I do the same. I want to sit as centre as possible. Not my fault some austist is already sitting next to me. I fully hog the arm rests on both sides too . :3
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>>90228044
>>90228344

Anon, in universe it absolutely IS a coincidence. Joi isn't just made for replicants. She does in fact refer to him in the sense of "a joe" not " the joe" in the end. As in an Average Joe. It just happens to be the same face.

But yes, it is not a coincidence by the fact that it was written by someone making a fucking film, but again, that's completely foolish thing to say in the context of the plot.

>>90225780
I still have yet to see a convincing argument why the girl would have survived the orphanage or a beating like that. Or why simply because she cried we are led to believe that it was her memory as well.

In the end I actually think K is the kid. I think the "army" needed a child to always look for. Deckard doesn't know if the kid is a girl or a boy so in the end he was meeting his "daughter" instead of his "son". The only thing we have to prove the child was a girl is the say so of a woman who'd had him tracked, which led the LAPD to Deckard, and then told him that HE had to kill Deckard.

"Everything you want to see" "Everything you want to hear" to me, means that Deckard got what he wanted to see. A beautiful daughter who makes beautiful memories and lives up to the image of his lost love. Instead of a son that killed replicants just like him and lived a life of pain. K didn't get to be the special child but he got to be a part of a greater whole. And the army gets a captive girl to fight for in their war instead of a blade runner who'd been hunting them.
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>>90225375
people acting like this is some kind of out of line post baffle me. at least this piece of shit >>90227685 admits he acts like a 16 year old on purpose.
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>>90229419
Also, one more note.

I don't think 2049 leaves it even ambiguous as to whether Deckard was replicant. He would not have survived the radiation.
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>>90229419
>I still have yet to see a convincing argument why the girl would have survived the orphanage

Because not every genetic illness is immediately obvious, the symptoms of her weak immune system began showing up at the age of 8, and she had parents by then.The orphanage was also probably a lot better place 30 years ago, because the earth wasn't completely collapsed.

>or a beating like that
Like what, you don't see a lot of the beating and what you see isn't that brutal. Kids fight each other all the time
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>>90229697
>He would not have survived the radiation
There wasn't a lot of radiation when K arrived at least in the part of town he was scanning , it showed up on the computer screen. He might have taken pills or wore a suit before, but now it wasn't necessary.
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>>90229697
K literally scans his area and it says that the radiation levels are nominal. Also bees don't survive in heavily radiated areas.
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https://youtu.be/6iqmIoHL74Y
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>>90224746
bade munnr
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>>90231528
>Mumble Runner
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>>90227382
The fact the default advertisement Joi AI named him Joe serves to raise the question of whether or not his Joi was programmed to name everyone Joe/treat everyone the same, making her statement of thinking he's "special" seem less authentic. That revelation in turn raises the larger question of whether or not any of the love he felt and thought she felt for him was real at all or just another fake, like his memories, like his identity, like everything about his existence. It's supposed to be a soul crushing moment for him.

Also I was going to make a thread to post this but I guess here's as good a place as any. I don't come here at all and have no idea if anyone's made this image macro already, but after seeing the movie it just seemed so obvious.
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>>90225630
I dunno anon, maybe we're just shitters. One guy walked out of my theater saying "this movie'll put you to sleep."
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>>90232080
Don't even bring that up. Joy was beautiful and real and not just a program.
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>>90232080
Super advanced sentient AI
> only knows one name
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>>90232080
I made it better
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>>90232080
A "Joe" is is also a synonym for a "regular nice guy".
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can you imagine how unbearable 2049 threads will become just 3 hours after the bluray is online?

savour these days
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>>90232914
Why?
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>>90232914
Can you imagine if the movie was a hit with the general public and we weren't allowed to admit we liked it on 4chan anymore?
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>>90233137
People who use "reddit" as an insult without any other arguments are the worst anons.
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>>90233216
yup, right up there with furries and weaboos
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Is anyone else still irrationally upset it did so poorly in the box office? Obviously that has nothing to do with the quality but damn, it deserved better. Plus there is so much to this world, I want a sequel just to see more of this. I really hate the general public.
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>>90234584
The empty theater and rainy day simply added to the atmosphere.
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>>90234584
It could be a blessing in disguise, I mean what if the director/writer weren't on board. Riddley Scott may direct it , or someone worse.
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>>90234584
I saw zero advertising for it while justice league is spammed everywhere. They only have themselves to blame.
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>>90234584
More sequels = higher chance it will be shit
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>>90225697
Replicants are full grown at birth, they can be convinced they're any age. You could make one that's supposed to be 18 and a woman so you can market her a sex slave or you can make one whose 30 and male so you can market him as a Blade Runner.
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>>90234584
>>90234692
>>90234757
This, i feel as though that a sequel would be complete ass, especially since it would have to be about the Rebellion, and there is literally no satisfying outcome to that part of the story.
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>>90234687
t.Deckard
>>90234692
t.Joi
>>90234729
t.K
>>90234757
t.Luv
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>>90234829
It would not have to be about the rebellion. They could easily phase over that like they did the Blackout, it's just a historical event we don't get to see but is alluded to and we get to see some effects of it.
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>>90234584
>I want a sequel just to see more of this
Wait 35 more years then.
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>>90234869
Fair enough, but then there's still the possibility that it would be directed by some horrible hack like neo Ridley Scott or god forbid fucking Zack Snyder
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>>90234958
We won't see a sequel for a minimum of 10-15 years, if at all within the next 3 decades. It has no mass market appeal, it'll take someone whose a big fan of the series to finance it in the far future.
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>>90235033
well it's not realistic, i was originally responding to a post that spoke about a hypothetical scenario anyways.
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>>90234869
There's a lot of things they could do. I think it would be cool to take place during the rebellion, but just focus on a character that is caught up in it. Imagine that scene at the end of Children of Men, only its K trying to get to a spaceship to get off world to a replicant colony. If 2049 had been a smash hit I doubt they would really fuck with the formula too much and make it a war epic. Then again this is Hollywood 2017 so who knows, maybe it was for the better.
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>>90224746
Why the fuck did Wallace shank Rachel 2.0 (i'm assuming that was her) at the start of the film?

Just to replicate the fucking scar?
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>>90235171
I thought that was just a random failed attempt to make a replicant with a working womb
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>>90235508
Well i don't think he would've known whether or not she has a womb just from stabbing her
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>>90235566
He's got magic sci-fi floating camera rocks. I'm sure a couple had xray/microscopic/whatever vision needed to determine if she was up to par
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I wonder what kind of memories were implanted to Luv.
Also what memories would be implanted to prostitute replicants ? Porn implants ?
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>>90235622
>I'm sure a couple had xray/microscopic/whatever vision

Then there wouldn't have been any need to stab her...
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>>90236100
A bunch of daddy issues memories. Gotta make a realistic product after all.
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>>90236100
Violent childhood, drug abuse, poverty, abusive boyfriends.
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>>90236116
She was a failure. He stabbed her to dispose of her, because he is clearly a sociopath.
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>>90236401
Well, i guess there is no satisfying answer to this scene. It was kind of dumb.
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>>90236100
I see one or two neck marks the shoop team didn't notice. Enhance.
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>>90236453
Its not complicated. He was checking out the merchandise, was unsatisfied and so disposed of it. It was supposed to serve as characterization for the obvious villain. I don't know what's striking you as dumb about it.
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>>90236453
It was his introduction to the series and a way to differentiate him from his equivalent in the first movie. Papa Tyrell never saw the replicants as people but was never cruel to them. God Leto sees them as greater than people (angels) but is much more cruel.
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>>90236622
Angels are lower on the biblical totem pole than people. More awe inspiring, but ultimately below and meant to serve god's most loved creation: man
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>>90228344
>>90229419
>>90227760
>>90226110
>>90227382
On repeated viewings it becomes more apparent that the emphasis is on "good."

>You look like a gooooood Joe

Like a good guy. Hey, he's a good Joe, you know? He'll spot you a couple if you need it. He's a good guy on the street and he does the good guy thing.

What the hell is that, anyway? Being the good guy on the street. Is that just something you want to hear or does it mean something? What does it mean?
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>>90236742
Bravo Benis.
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>>90225375
This is why you are forever alone. Maybe he’s a chill dude. Maybe this is how you get your first actual friend.

Or possibly you get a nice handjob to the kino. Hou never know.
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>>90236789
LONELY

That's how it feels to be a good Joe.

She can fix that.

And she did. ;_;
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Is it worth watching second time? First time I watched in 3D and now I want to do it in 2D.
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Remember
We now know 100% that the fans of this trashy flick aren't locals
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>>90236937
Hold your horses, bitch. Do you really think any man, even like the gayest one, like the queen of cheese, fantasizes about a creepy, shadowy stranger giving them a handjob at a theater?
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>>90237045
This is why they get so upset at /tv/ language being used against this movie whilst its ok for everything else.
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>>90237086
pls stop, I come here so I don't have to look at conversation trees

at least spoiler it
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Was it ever explained why Las Vegas was barred from entry? Why there was some radiations there? It may have been explained during the first movie (been some times since I've watched it) or during 2049 (maybe the explanation slipped past me, watching a movie with a headache is not recommanded).

Overall I thought the plot was a little weak, was trying too much in too many directions and fell as the result too short in many things. Was pretty enjoyable though, even if Hans Zimmer's music is definitely beginning to annoy me.
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>>90233137
I can, check out the Fury Road threads.
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>>90237049
>he's on this site and thinks this
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>>90236789
That scene is really asking too much of normies and normalfags. It's asking them to believe that you can buy a product with an ad like that and it'll grow to love you. For a lot of people it would break the film. Most can set it aside and say maybe he can buy it and feel love from it because he isn't real, he's a replicant, so his emotions will never be fully developed. For it to be a deeply moving powerful film, you have to feel that he's real and so was his relationship with Joi, and this is something the normie mind is by definition not able to do, despite being able to go to Pixar films and think toys can have feelings.

The struggles K faces are a lot closer to struggles that real men face and have lived to face, which is why if you're a woman or a younger man the gap that's necessary to cross in this scene is so great.

It treats a solitary man's struggle as completely legitimate instead of fodder for comedy.
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>>90237296
A dirty bomb went off in Las Vegas
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I don't understand this katakana.

Something "hoop?"
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>>90225780
>Be the woman whose memory it really is
>Tell K it's a real memory
>See him freak out, obv. because he thinks it's his own memory
>Don't bother saying 'It's not yours, though'.
Bit cold-hearted, really.
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>>90238730
At the end of the day Villeneuve is still a Hollywood hack. Just not as bad.
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>>90238730
>See super-enhanced blade runner replicant having a mental breakdown
>Start an argument with him
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>>90236100

I just want to know why Luv looked like Abby Sciuto
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>>90238730


she didn't fucking see into his goddamn mind you dumb fuck she just looked at his expression and by that could tell the memory was genuine
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>>90238730
>obv. he thinks it's his own memory

Uhh, not obvious? Replicants can't be kids, as far as she knows (she doesn't know about the replicant baby). So as far as she can tell he's having a really monstrous breakdown and she doesn't know why it's happening.
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>>90239351
Makes no sense. Every person is wired differently, so what emotions are triggered by what memory and to which extend and whether they're mixed with other emotions or singular means that you literally wouldn't be able to tell whether a memory is genuine or not just from expression.

The way i see it she looked at the fragmentation of the memory, since humans usually perceive memories as frames, add or remove things/alter them as they grow older, and maybe that's different for implanted memories.
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Hey fellow autists. I'm considering seeing the movie for the 7th time today ut just found out it's 3D.

This verion any good? I'm normally very hardcore 2d.
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>>90239527
No, it's not good.
Even the cinematographer himself said that you should see it in 2D. 3D was merely tacked on by the studio and added in post production
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>>90239465


man she literally explains how to differ a fake and a real dream just seconds before.
can't recite the line completely, but goes something like
>people think it's in the details but we remember with feelings.
or whatever.
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>>90234584
>Is anyone else still irrationally upset it did so poorly in the box office?
It did better than I expected it to.
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>I’ve literally seen spaceships n shit duder

Why did people think the original was good?
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>>90238730
Because they mention it is illegal, she doesn't have the courage to admit it but feels guilty about it
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>>90239619
Yes, my point is how can she know if the feelings are truthful or what they even are if she doesn't know the context of the memory. She might have gotten an entirely different impression.
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>>90239699


yeah man i kno rite.
blade runner 2 didn't even do that the nigga just went to lie down on some stairs like whaaat hahah
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>>90238836
No, anon. No.
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>>90239732


well man fuck there was this thingamadingy that K looked into.
i reckon it was some lie-detector esque feelings scanner or whatever.
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>>90224746
he was trying his best to prove it wasn't him

but yeah it was funny and a bit endearing how he was obviously trying to miss the point
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>>90225375
somebody has a hot date
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>>90239811
Well i guess there is no point in questioning how it works or doubting that it works, when the script simply says that it does work.

I'm still curious to know if she got a glimpse of what the memory was or not, since her reaction was pretty extreme for this. Or maybe she started crying because she immediately recognized the exact emotional response (which apparently is universal).

Whatever, i have to stop questioning it, otherwise i'm going to ruin it for myself
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It was obvious she had that response because yes she made that memory thinking she was doing good, but what she did was illegal and fucked K up, probably the reason why it isn't allowed to use real memories in the first place.

So she was crying because she felt guilty, but also because she thought she was in trouble so being an autist with minimal interaction with people she did not say anything at all...K thought she was crying because she thinks he's human or whatever, so he walked out to get fresh air
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>>90240203
Is it ever confirmed that she was the one who made the memory? It's not like she's the only memory architect, they just say she's the best
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>>90240069


real fucking refreshing to end an arguement like civilized people on /tv/

have a good one mate
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>>90239610
Well, shit.

Guess I have to go anyway. Checked all other cinemas and it seems I'm out of options in what is probably the movie's last week.
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>>90240292


>made

no one made that memory. it was real
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>>90240292
Yes it was, that's what K realized after finding out it was a girl. Everything she said about her past fit into that theory, so did her reaction and her genetic condition ( the girl in the records was said to have died of that ).

>It's not like she's the only memory architect
They don't go into details but it's a very specific thing I doubt there are hundreds of them. He asks why she's not off-world, she says she's stuck in LA because of her condition, the orphanage is also pretty close
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>>90240459
It's not terrible in 3D, some scenes are a bit darker but it looks pretty good
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why was that memory implanted in him anyway?

what purpose did it serve?
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>>90240974
There's a bit of every artist's work in what they make.
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>>90240974
>what purpose did it serve?
Because memories give a base to the replicants and they can use this so they can have real human responses and improvisations.
They explain this in the first and second movie...
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I'm this autist
>>90225375

and I just came home from the theater. He wasn't there so I had a perfect viewing experience. The other people there were almost completely silent all the way through (even the popcorn munchers didn't make a sound after about 30 minutes).

I love this film and I really got the experience I was looking for this time.
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>>90241251
He probably was there and just decided to sit somewhere else. Probably reserved the seat next to you by mistake in the first place.

Not everyone is out to get you my dude.
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>>90239351
What was she looking at, then? Something like computer code? She was looking into a double eyepiece thing at something.

>>90239445
He was having a highly emotional response to finding out the memory was real. Even allowing for her accepting that he wouldn't think it was his memory as that makes no sense, she might still have asked 'Why does this matter? It's not like it's YOUR real memory'.
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>>90242439
Because she did that to him, also it was illegal so she might lose her licence or some shit I don't know. She didn't have to courage to fess up
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>>90232248
You know what the problem is with Americans like this guy? It's not that he got up and left because the movie wasn't his cup of tea. As much as I wish everybody would watch and understand this film, I get that it's not everybody's thing. The problem is that this son of a bitch couldn't just leave silently and politely, and felt the need to announce his fucking departure to everyone else who was watching the movie.

I say this as an American, but most Americans, doesn't matter if they're liberals or conservatives, are so fucking insecure, vindictive, and desperate for attention that they can't let anything just be without making it all about themselves.
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>>90229892
But this is /tv/ where girls drool (formerly boys rule)




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