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When will we start seeing quality WW1 kino? Why does WW2 schlock keep getting pumped out every year while this conflict goes ignored?
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>>94594340
It's not a clear-cut good vs evil story.
Audiences don't want to watch months' worth of rain, artillery, and gangrene in their flicks
No American "heroic story" like at D-Day
Most people don't know a thing about the conflict
It's depressing
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Because America was barely in it, so it doesn't count.
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>>94594340

If it's not happening now with the centenary, I don't think it will happen.

WW1 didn't really have a "good" and a "bad" side, it was very muddled with various confusing precursors to the war.

Unlike WW2 which they can (and will) milk forever to remind us.
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>>94594340
Americans are kind of irrelevant in the first World War
There is no greater evil
There are no jews being killed by evil germans
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Because nobody cared about War Horse, so now Hollywood thinks big-budget WW1 films are a waste of time.
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>>94594340
Making a WWI movie would be admiting WWII was caused by Versailles
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>>94594340
Because people would see that Germany was fighting for western civilization whereas the *nglos were led by zionists (see balfour declaration) and jews (see federal reserve getting founded just before the war started) respectively
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Because Jews can't use it to demonize white people.
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>>94594340
An honest portrayal of the lead up to WW1 and the aftermath will muddy your feelings for WW2 and make you think it was more about politics, resentment, abuse/exploitation of defeated powers, shady shit by the "allies" which caused the US to back out of the league they helped create, and just an overall miserable feeling that can't be used to race bait. The current understanding of WW2 is that blonde haired blue eyed people wanted to conquer the world, exterminate anyone not like them, and particularly single out jews - and there is a lot of money and global influence to be made from this misunderstanding.
Most people can't tell the difference between WW1 and WW2 and just assume WW1 was about Nazis as well. As long as people assume that and don't look too deep into it, all's good.
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>>94595253
Book title?
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>>94594340
it would be compared to all quiet on the western front and most likely fall short
also its hard to make some "heroic" story out of it because the warfare is fucked up to the point that humans are threated as resources
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>tfw no Verdun kino
>No epic vistas of an entire forest ablaze, belching black smoke into the sky
>No brutal sequences of hand to hand CQC in the corridors of Fort Vaux, the only lighting being flamethrowers and gunshots
>No aerial shots of the difference between the untouched countryside and the lunar, brown belt of battlefield around the city
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>>94594340
Because Kikes control Hollyjew.
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>>94594340
Same reason you don't see hollywood movies about the allies firebombing dresden and tokyo to the ground. Normies don't want real war movies, they want a good guy to beat a bad guy.
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>>94594340
no genocide to exploit
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Anyone seen the recent Journey’s End film?
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A dramataczation of the events leading up to the war would be interesting, complete with Game of Thrones style political intrigue and backstabbing.

>Nationalism & colonialism at the start of the century
>Formation of the alliance systems
>Development of the machine gun
>Serbian nationalists plot the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand
>The assassination
>Backroom dealings as allies get called to war
>Ends as troops march off to fight in the glorious war

The actual war itself was a dreary event. Tons of men killed in brutal fashion, no decisive battles or heroic breakthroughs and it ended with an armistice instead of a surrender.
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>>94594495
there was one undeniably good side to the war: the Belgians
sadly they don't really make for a good movie
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Nolan could possibly make a good WW1 story. A movie about the Christmas Truce would probably make me cry.
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>>94594482
>It's not a clear-cut good vs evil story
Neither was WW2
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>>94596052
And Luxembourg
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>>94594591
People care about war, they just don't care about fucking horses. Look at Passchendalae. That was successful, right?
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>normal riflemen just sat there and waited to get bombed or ordered to charge
>artillerymen received coordinates and fired shots they never saw land
>observers sat in balloons too far away to see anything except trench lines and clouds of dust
>absolutely no one had any fucking clue what was going on
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>>94595697
>the jews control the institution that was founded by jews and push agendas favorable to the jews who control that jew-created and run industry
whoa i just like got totally redpilled man

>>94594340
Americans didn't want to get involved in WWI and really didn't contribute militarily either.
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>>94596114
I don't really consider Luxembourg to be a "side"
at least Belgium did notably affect the war with their doomed but still admirable resistance
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>>94596381
>Americans didn't want to get involved in WWI and really didn't contribute militarily either.
America was necessary, when they entered the war Russia had effectively collapsed and the French army was close to mutiny.
Even if the american troops were by far the worst in terms of individual skill in 1918, the sheer morale effect their influx had on the allied side cannot be underestimated, nor can the fact that their entry into the war caused the Germans to engage in the spring offensive when otherwise they could have stayed on the defensive longer.
And no matter how crappy, an extra 200k troops a month is going to be mighty useful, if only so they can occupy the least important trenches so you can concentrate your battle hardened troops like say the canadians in the most important theaters
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>>94594340
because WWI is a huge redpill for normies, you find out how the middle east is sectioned off and how incompetent the inevitable inheritors of global dominance actually are, you look at the individual's motivation and just think how utterly pointless it all was because all that motivation has completely evaporated in the west and has been replaced by hollow shit, you question why the British kept the war going on and on and on only to find out how their empire fades away not so many years later and does so mostly due to debts incurred by their "ally" the U.S.
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>>94596414
Ah right, understood.
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>>94594340
I'm glad to see that you all know why Hebrewwood won't touch this conflict in film.
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>>94594340
Probably because they cant politicize it.

and it would show the real and stupid reasons for war.

WW2 is a clear goodie vs baddie

WW1 would muddy the waters and show how insane our leaders are
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>>94596381
The thing is most people cannot or will not recognise that first point you made. It actually is too bitter a "redpill" for them to swallow.
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>>94594340
though there have been plenty of ww1 movies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVW3OIu7F5U
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>>94594570
>Americans are kind of irrelevant in the first World War

Patton introduced tank warfare on a large scale which broke the stalemate. I'm not saying America "won" the war but the US entering was a big factor.
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>>94596155
you do realize there was more to WW1 than the Trenches?
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheGreatWar/videos?disable_polymer=1
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The insane triviality and pettiness that the all the countries involved had in the lead up to the war. Remember when Le Black Science Guy was saying "Almost all armed conflict in the history of the world came about because opposing sides believed different things to be true."? WW1 is the direct opposite of that, all the counties involved were in it for either land, trade routes or reputation. WW1 exposes that all wars are usually for land, trade or reputation. It's bleak and nihilist. Actual nihilist, not rick and morty "tfw to intelligent" nihilist. There's no easy spin on good and evil, like you get with WW2. Nazis? Easy to spin as bad guys with a holohoax story. "OY VEEEYYYYYY DESE NAH-SEES ARE ANDISEMIDIC BASTIDS BAD GUUUYS"

If WW1 was more popular, it would utterly shred the post-modernist hypnotism
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>>94596104
Nice meme
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Because to make an honest portrayal of WW1 it would basically be the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan for two hours long. Nobody would want to watch that.
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>>94597351
there was more than one front to the war, and more than one battle
also there'd be way more explosives and a lot of other freaky shit like trying to fight through mud literally thick enough to swallow a man whole
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>>94595321
The war that had many fathers: the long run up to the second world war
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>>94597121

WW1 is the formal transition from monarchism to modern political organization. Every massive re-organization of human hierarchy typically requires a huge amount of killing and destruction of capital.

WW2 is a war between the three new ideologies that replaced monarchism. Capitalism and communism completely trounced fascism as an efficient form of societal organization.
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>>94595957

you could also do a kino of a formerly aristocratic family losing everything and having to figure out how to live in the 20th century
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World War I doesn't present an opportunity for Jews to play the victim.
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>>94597281
It's not a meme. WW2 was just as muddy and fucked up as WW1, just with a bigger bodycount and more lies.
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knowing hollywood they'll probably start doing modern remakes of a bunch of WWI classics
heck I'm sort of surprised there hasn't been a lawrence of arabia remake
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>>94597663
what WWI had was this surreal element
WWII there were massive bodycounts sure, but more often there was a reason behind the madness, some territory was gained or lost, some strategic point taken etc
in WWI you had the same general using the same tactic try to take the same fortified position and failing 11 god damn times
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>>94594340
Because WW1 wasn’t a romantic war by any means. Soldiers literally got up, shot at the enemy from trenches all day while the enemy shot at them from trenches, then went to sleep.
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>>94597455
Ww1 simply isn’t romantic. What heroes were there? Most deaths were men either getting shot to death by a maxim machine gun or simply being obliterated/mutilated by mass artillery. Even saving private Ryan couldn’t show the true carnage an mg42 inflicts on a man. A true honest ww1 movie can’t be done.
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>>94597813
Damn. Beat me to it.
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>>94597560
WWI or WWII had nothing to do with ideologies. It had everything to do with geopolitics. Mostly to contain the rise of Germany and imperial Japan. Now china is the next target
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jp-bL0OQvw
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>>94596995
>Patton introduced tank warfare on a large scale which broke the stalemate
I'd disagree with that considering Cambrai happened almost a year before the tank corp's first major offensive battle, which was in the the middle of the 100 day offensive anyway
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>>94594340
WW1 is a lot of sitting around geting shelled in your sleep and geting sniped on your way to the piss bucket, where as WW2 had a lot more mobile action
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>>94597801
That's true. WW2 was more bloody but "cleaner" in terms of violence coordination. WW1 was just a clusterfuck all around. And it directly led to the outbreak of WW2 because of greed and weakness from politicians during the aftermath.
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What were some of the most terrifying things a soldier would have to face in WW1?
inb4 himself
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>>94597560
>Capitalism and communism completely trounced fascism as an efficient form of societal organization.
>Entire world gangs up on a single Fascist country and still nearly lose
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>>94597953
Chemical weapons
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>>94597953
Knowing you may get vaporized by a giant shell and you wouldn’t even know it while watching your friends face the same.
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>>94595670
Can't have French people act heroic in our 'Merican flicks now can we?
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>>94597604
Thats basically what Downton Abbey is
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>>94597953
Men actually drowned in mud. That scares the shit out of me
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>>94597953
there was a record of a soldier at passchendaele who missed his step and got stuck in the mud and took 2 days to sink down far enough to drown
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>>94597967
worth it
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>>94597953
Mustard gas
Chlorine gas
Sleeping next to rotting corpses
getting wrapped up in barbed wire and slowly bleeding out in no-mans land
rats and flies absolutely everywhere
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>>94597953
What wasn't horrible in WW1? Planes?
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>>94597953
>>94597991
Gas. The gasmasks were poorly designed and grunts got contradictory instructions on ho to use them.

>>94598057
In Gallipoli men froze to death standing guard and one bloke fell into a drainage ditch then froze/drowned to death. At one point the turks just completely ran out of firewood.
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>>94597953
being told to go run across a field knowing full well on the other side is heavily fortified positions with dozens of machine guns pointed at you as artillery blow shit up
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>>94597953
The noise.
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>>94598187
>getting wrapped up in barbed wire and slowly bleeding out in no-mans land
fuck I forgot about the barbed wire. The entire design is hell
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>>94598208
pilots had ridiculous fatality rates even by WWI standards
WWI aviation was complete and utter anarchy, during the first year the main method of killing another pilot was to fly close, pull out your handgun and shoot the bastard, and there are pilots who were known to lock their steering and venture out on their own wings to do mid-flight repairs
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>>94597967
>Allies nearly lost
Hitler got skullfucked by anglos while getting pounded in the ass by Russians. The Italian fascist government got fucking overthrown.
What do you mean the Allies “nearly lost”?
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>>94594482
The moment Germany invaded Belgium it stopped being a morally grey conflict. Not to mention the subsequent war crimes.
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>>94598273
At least after a while you dont hear anything
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>>94598230
not to mention that even if you got a gas mask on it would still seep into your skin and start causing nasty chemical burns all over
and if you jumped into the water guess what: the gas actually settled in the water either poisoning it or turning it into acid
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>>94598451
nah you did, and even the men who went deaf from the noise could still perfectly feel the beat of the drumfire as the shockwaves passed through their bodies
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>>94598273
And even when shells aren't exploding around you you're listening to people moan and cry out from no mans land. But rescuing them is hopeless.
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>>94597953

The irony that the safest way to advance through No Man's Land was by following closely behind a creeping artillery barrage, hoping neither your charge nor artillery canon fire fuck up the timing because then you get blown up by your own artillery or get noticed by the enemies and shot.

Maybe not the *worst*, but my point is that even the relatively good, later tactics were scary and ultra dangerous.
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>>94598517
>still perfectly feel the beat of the drumfire as the shockwaves passed through their bodies

fuck
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What movies from before WW2. Watch J'accuse
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>>94597953
The constant shelling which was so bad for your nerves/anxiety that it would cause literal physical decay as well as psychological

I remember the description of it being like someone tying you to a post, swinging a sledgehammer at you, you flinch in fear and anxiety prepared to die, but the hammer misses. It was like that, that feeling of "oh fuck oh god" but for hours at a time as literally any shell could blow you to pieces or horrifically maim you.
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>>94598300

Now that's a movie
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>>94598396
If Dunkirk, the Battle of Britain, or any number of other things had gone very slightly worse, Britain would have been out of the war. Russia was constantly a half-second away from all-out defeat. The Axis very nearly took the day.
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>>94598629
the shockwaves were so constant that during artillery barrages on the other trench it was impossible to light a match in your own even if shielded perfectly from the elements
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>trench raiding clubs
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>>94598603
in fact it was the sign of a well drilled regiment if they took about about 3 to 5% casualties from their own shells during a creeping barrage as it was only effective if you followed it extremely closely

improperly drilled regiments would fear their own artillery fire to much, and stay behind far enough the enemy machinegunners had time to recover and mow them down
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>>94598664

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoVUU3b3S7M
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>>94597851
There was Lawrence
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>>94598754
>improperly drilled regiments would fear their own artillery fire to much, and stay behind far enough the enemy machinegunners had time to recover and mow them down

Tfw the war lasts long enough almost every regiment is improperly trained
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>>94598669
Britain would have not been out of the war at dunkirk, it's main contribution to the war wasn't it's army but rather it's airforce and navy, both of which would have been unaffected by the capture of the army at dunkirk
Russia was never half a second away from all out defeat, they had massively superior manpower and both their industry and oil fields were never in danger of capture, and no capturing moscow would not have resulted in defeat and going for it would have been a tactical mistake

If you want to talk about nearly fucking it up imagine if the french had anticipated the germans would go through the ardennes and station proper troops here: that's the majority of the german tanks caught in a situation where they were unable to function preventing a quick defeat of france

the germans had to rely on a lot of gambles the majority of which actually turned out in their favor and they still lost
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>all those boys who joined the war thinking it would be glorious and fun
>all those same boys that ended up drowning in the mud alone, screaming for help and their mothers right up until they couldn't breathe anymore
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For anyone interested, Beneath Hill 60 is a decent film about tunneling warfare during WW1.
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>>94598910
>the luckiest boys were the ones that got their foot shot off and got to limp home
also just imagine how many great scientists and artists were lost in those trenches
I mean if someone like Tolkien was at the Somme, then imagine how many others like him also were and didn't make it.
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>>94598751
>bolt cutters

Oh what an honor it must have been to be the guy who tries to sneak out and clip the barbed wire before a charge.
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>>94598230
Two of my great uncles were killed by shellfire at Gallipoli. What a fucking waste.
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>>94597967

germany didnt even come close to winning. germany accomplished little besides surprising france
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>>94594340
I'm in film school because I hate money. I actually pitched a concept for a series where the US joins in on the side of the Central Powers in my writing class today. I've got the world down and the scenario for why they join, but I don't have any characters to drive the story. What about an American-German politician who's a nobody who uses the war to gain traction.
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>>94599056
how about having the dubious honor of being the guy who had to climb out and actually plant the barbed wire
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>>94598240
At the start they were specifically told to WALK when they advanced. How fucked is that?
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>>94599089
I assume in this alternate reality German Uboats aren't sinking US ships and the Zimmerman telegram is never intercepted.
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>>94598664
Already been made, its called "Aces High". no specific case of a pilot walking out onto his own wings to repair but plenty of ww1 era dogfight kino with lots of day to day pilot life too
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>>94599089
okay I'll bite how the fuck are you going to justify the US joining the central powers?
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>>94599045
I think about tolkien and that whole generation of pseudo-victorian intellectuals and it's like an entire generation of cultured human beings died and the modern world was born from their ashes. Something died with them that we never got back, that's scary to think about.
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Battle of Vimy Ridge
Gallipoli
2nd Battle of Ypres
Battle of Jutland

All could make an interesting movie. I'd love to see a battle of Jutland movie. Imagine these 2 huge armadas on screen, the biggest naval battle in history. It would be amazing.
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>>94599045

Mfw when Tolkien gets There and Back Again,

while George R. Martin ends on the field of fire
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>>94597953
In the trenches the closest thing troops who didn't have gas masks had to counteract the gas was their own urine. So trenches would have buckets that everyone would piss in so that when a gas attack happened they would all dunk a strip of cloth in the closest piss bucket and wear it around their nose and mouth (and i'm assuming eyes).
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>>94599089
Make it like a tragic hero's journey with an American kid with German ancestry.
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>>94594340

How many of (((them))) died during WW1?

Oh that's right......fucking zero which is why (((they))) never mention it
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>>94599089

>le alternate history tv show

Plz don't
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>>94599198
Watching downfall made me realise we murdered the last warped gasp of it when we fought the Germans in ww2. They are at least aspiring to present themselves in that sort of way and its clear from their actions and aethetics. The soviets are literally just a barbarian horde egged on by judeo-bolshevik intellectuals
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>>94598910
>Months of training and drills
>Years of growing up, living their life in whatever way
>Shipped off to a lunar hell to have all of that snuffed out in seconds by a single machine gun, or an artillery barrage
The killing was so efficient it was fucking industrial.

>>94599123
>Early days of WWI
>French troops are dressed in their red trousers and bright blue shirts, ordered to march in formation towards the enemy because they think this war will be 'honourable'
>Mowed down by machine gun and artillery fire
What an utter waste.
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>>94597953
Like what others said, besides sleep deprivation there was a very real chance the artillery bombardment could cause your underground trench house to collapse
imagine lying in bed getting shelled all night and on guard all day for 8 straight days, then suddenly the roof collapses and you're buried alive along with hundreds of others

Interestingly the US did something like this with bulldozers in the first gulf war; the iraqis had barricaded themselves in their trenches so instead of fixing bayonets to go in after them they just buried them alive using construction vehicles. One guy said he could hear faint screaming underground as it was going on
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>tfw my great-great-grandfather was cavalry and actually fucking survived

He was also a veteran of the Boer War. The only reason I'm fucking here is because he was impossible to kill. His son went on to be a commanding officer in British India as well as a veteran of the Malayan emergency.

And here I am shitposting on a Chinese cartoon forum.
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>>94599152
>>94599160
Since at the start of the war, the US was making a profit selling arms and equipment to both sides, I was going to make it so that in this timeline the Royal Navy imposed a strict blockade where all merchant ships were subject to inspection. This sparks resentment among the populace.When the Lusitania is sunk, a survivor reveals pictures, that show the British had large amounts of munitions on board. The British were using American passengers as human shields. Finally, Zimmerman gets a heart attack before his telegram.
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>>94599300

To be fair, not many died during WW2 either.
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>>94597953
Trench foot.
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>>94594340
The issue is that Hollywood likes war movies to be drama or action.

WW1 is horror.
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>>94599089
A better story would be the British joining the Triple Alliance. But to your story, many German-Americans supported not going to war at all, or joining the Germans. Could use that for a group of boys going to war and their town as a homefront story.
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>>94599123
Yeah, so they didn't get fucked by their own artillery. It was a good strategy - it was just incredibly stressful.
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>>94597953
The endless poetry.
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>>94597953
The fact that you will in all likelihood die a meaningless death in a decrepit mud pit isolated from everything and everyone you loved or cared about
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>>94599364
wouldn't have worked, the germans had successfully been painted as way to evil at that point
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>>94599357
They'd be proud of you, anon.
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>>94599404
>The issue is that Hollywood likes war movies to be drama or action.

>WW1 is horror.

could we make a WW1 horror flick?
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>>94599337
>tfw your great grandparents were duped into killing the nazis
>good people mislead by (((certain media))) to killing good people
>now all we got is feminism, soyboys and black supremacy led by (((them)))
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>>94595253
>France wants to erase the defeat of 1870
Jesus Christ, and you actually take these lies as gospel?
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ww1 was epic my dudes
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>>94594340
You cant remember the 6 million in a ww1 movie,goy.
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>>94597065
Pretending it wasn't decided on the Western front and the seas is pretty dishonest though.
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>>94599357
If he'd just been through the Boer War, he'd probably be ashamed of you.

Seeing as he went through WW1, I think he'd just be happy his descendants didn't have to deal with that much mud.
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>>94599152
>zimmerman telegram
what a convenient piece of information that the british came across despite all assessments of Mexico's capabilities by Germany were extremely negative and US intervention was the last thing they wanted

But I suppose the British are to be trusted completely on these matters, like with the Bryce Report which claimed among ither things that germans (ironically) chopped off belgian kid's hands and then sold this story all across the US.

It's almost like a certain group within Germany were eager to backstab their own country if Britain sold them a piece of land from Germany's ally, the Ottomans, if they helped get the US in the war
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>>94599089
>Alternate history
Just make a WW1 series, anon
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The US Civil War, the Boer War, the Napoleonic Wars and World War 1 all deserve movies far far more than WWII or Vietnam ever did. There are many lessons about morality, humanity and civilization that could be conveyed in movies about those wars.

And yet. Vietnam and World War II, over and over again.
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>>94594340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWF2JBb1bvM
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>>94599089

What kind of story do you want to tell?
Romance, Thriller, Action, Drama...

The scenario itself can't carry the story
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>>94599608
Alsaice Lorraine was a big deal in post ww1 talks
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>>94599608
>>France wants to erase the defeat of 1870
>Jesus Christ, and you actually take these lies as gospel?

I mean its true. Not the only reason though.
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>>94599466
I would be interested in seeing a story where the British join the alliance, but I think they were the ones who wanted to rein Germany in the most weren't they? I like the idea of the group of boys.
>>94599724
I sort of want to do a story about a politician's rise to power, by using the war to do so. This character paints the British as the ones orchestrating the war and he starts to appeal to the Irish and German Americans.
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*dies for nothing*


oh no no no no
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>the ending shot of All Quiet on the Western Front where it's just dead fucking silence and an endless expanse of graves
WWI is haunting shit
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>>94599577

An old castle that is co-opted as a makeshift barracks is found to be the last holdout of European vampires.
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>>94597634
This.
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>>94599747
Of course it was, but it wasn't at all was pushed France to go to war (well considering they never even actually went to war since Germany declared on them). In spite of the Entente Cordiale, Britain and France were much more at each other's throats abouts the colonies than Germany and France had antagonism for each other. France got pushed back into European politics which they'd long tried to avoid (Ferry saying to look the other way from "la ligne bleue des Vosges") because they'd started issuing massive loans to both Russia and Serbia, but even then they had little interest in a European war.

They'd backed from the Bosnian crisis and the only tangible step taken towards war was the meeting between Poincaré and the Tsar in June 1914. But even then, France tried to broker its neutrality with Germany for very long (once through their own ambassador, once through Birtain's).

I don't like it when France is unfairly depicted as the bad guy. We have been many times, but not here.

>>94599777
Sure it turned into a good motive but politicians hadly wanted the war since few thought they could win it (only retarded "muh plan XVII generals thought so).
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>>94599722
The christmas truce always makes me cry manly tears
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>>94599577
You could.
>main character starts out bright, cherry and normal
>starts to lose his hearing as the movie goes on
>the sound is edited so that all the audience can hear by the end of it is endless artillery strikes and the sounds of the machine gun
>characters are talking but the audience cannot hear them
>the sky outside of the trench is dull grey, speckled with sporadic artillery strikes
>every shot in the trench has mud and rats in it
>at one point, the captain orders a charge
>main character's best friend rushes out first
>BOOM! Land mine
>Main character drags him to a medic
>his buddies grow increasingly more deformed, succumbing to trench foot or shellshock
>one character just straight up collapses with no explanation given
>main character has to sleep near the rotting corpse
>another character cant take it anymore and rushes out
>immediately gunned down, left to bleed out
>he cries for his mother
>at one point, the trench collapses and the main character has to dig his way out
>you hear the muffled cries of his friends
>he runs away from the war and runs into farmers
>they try to talk to him, but all he can hear is the endless artillery strikes and machine gun fire
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>>94599828
The British were close economically and culturally. But ultimately Wilhelm pissed them off and the British sought refuge with the French, who they recently stopped hating, and the Russians, who they used to be close to war with a decade earlier.

The back and forth of who is on who's side at the turn of the century is very interesting.
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>>94599716

I'll tell you why.

Horses.

Nobody on a film set wants to deal with fucking horses.
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How is this documentary, lads? It's all on youtube as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_First_World_War_(TV_series)
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>>94599608
I don't think you understand just how much France's prestige and reputation took a hit from that. Today we think of Germany as the big bad, but in that time it was France that no one wanted to fuck with on the continent. It has a deep impact not just on how your citizens perceive you but in how other countries perceive you, and they lest a lot of leverage in international bargaining when jockeying for positions related to territory or otherwise. Worst comes to worse smaller countries see Germany as a more reliable protector and look to them when establishing friendly relations, if stressed for a choice.

Britain was #1 with their navy but France was the best on the ground, and getting whooped by Germans put a bit of fear in the rest of the world after they united. So for France they now had a gigantic rival on their doorstep who was provably more than a match for them. The Romans launched a major campaign into Germania after Teutoberg for these kinds of reasons, among others.
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>>94598208
They had zero concept of altitude sickness.
Wings periodically ripped off, mid flight.
Castor oil fumes giving you uncontrollable diarrhea.
Body mangling crashes.
Burning to death. Lots of burning to death.
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>>94599955
Nice writeup, satan
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>>94598664
They've tried. And failed. Was hyped for Flyboys. Could've puked blood in the theatres. Probably ruined WWI aviation films for the rest of my life.
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>great grandfather used to tell the story of how they got shelled by their own artillery when crossing a river during the Caporetto Offensive
>He also fought in WW2 at the Don
>Came home okay by fucking foot
>Got taken to Siberia by the commies for owning too much land after the war

Fuck the reds.
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>>94599847
With the situation faced by White civilization the world over as dire as it is now we should mourn our losses collectively knowing full well (((who))) and (((what))) was behind this. Theres no glory gained anywhere in this pointless fratricide
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>

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>94600068
I'm thankful that you're restating the context for me, well of which I'm aware, but all you've said actually strengthens all I elaborate on here: >>94599940 . France being so stun by the blow it had been dealt would cut down on the glorious expeditions that had been the signature of Napoleon III, and changed its entire agenda to rekindling its prestige in the colonies, which explains why you see it jump from being fifth largest empire in the world to second largest in the span of twenty years, and why Britain becomes such an enemy to them again. That was what Jules Ferry vied for, and he shut down others like General Boulanger who hoped to renew prestige with an outright war against Germany.

That's not to say France came to disregard Germany, and having that they implemented the most rigorous army service in the world three years before the worls should make that obvious. Now however, France never believed that it was in a position to challenge Germanty so soon, and so it did very little to fan the flames of WWI where it thought it would get fucked (remember, no guarantee of a British ally back then).
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>>94599578
The truth will burn my soul eternally. My Grandad instilled my nationalism in me from a young age because he had it instilled in him by the wartime atmosphere, now there's a gulf between us where i can't be honest with him about what i now know.
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>>94599984
>Wilhelm pissed them off
Wilhelm tried repeatedly to become friends with them, what pissed them off was that he was unknowingly bankrupting them. Britain had a policy that in order to maintain the status quo they needed a fleet size that matched the next two powers combined. Wilhelm thought that the British were refusing his offers of friendship because Germany - with few colonies and a weak navy - had nothing to offer Britain - an island nation with tons of colonies. So he started building a defensive navy about 40% the size of Britain's (iirc). The British then had to build more because the Germans built more, but so did the French, the Americans, the Russians, and so on. So their assessment was that the German rapid naval increase was hostile, or at the least was detrimental to Britain.

Also keep in mind the British have intervened in nearly every european conflict since 1499 if their position within the status quo was threatened. France and Russia come to mind for people they had no other reason to fight
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>>94600308
So what man? (((industrialised pornography))) is just another example of the dire situation we're in. If you're white, ask yourself who you are scoring points with by acting this way, what the reward you gain? If you arn't white understand that the people doing this to us do not have good intentions for you either, with us out of the way they'll come for you next.
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>>94594340
>this hasn't been posted yet
Enjoy the nightmare fuel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Pd527GN48
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>>94600475
See my >>94600538 Theres room on this globe for all of us, the world IS a better place because of white civilization and all peoples have prospered from what we have created. Don't be a neo-serf for the NWO just because you want to spite me because you think i'm "le ebil nuzi"
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>>94600538
i have the same viewpoints tbqg

just wanted to meme
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They should adapt the adventures of this mad man.
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Because Americans barely appeared in it and mostly got their "asses" kicked by the feeble remnants of the German army.
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jews,jews,jews.
so what that they were not killed?

a lot movies were made about iraq war, vietnam war, cold war despite jews were not killed there also.


why would even those evil jews made movies about ww1 where america where slightly involved ? european countries must make it.
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>>94600387
It wasn't Britain they were aiming for as an ally so much as it was Russia, they had a better relationship and better strategic positioning by surrounding them
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>>94600674
Who?
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>>94600493
Yes, I believe there were agreements between the British and Germans to slow the naval race, but ultimately that fell apart. It's interesting to think that if Wilhelm's more liberal father had not died so soon, what would have happened to these alliances. Granted Wilhelm was the grandson of Queen Victoria, but he was quite awful to his English mother.
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>>94600652
It's cool, it why we come here i suppose. But the real question is will you shirk in your duty knowing what you know?
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>>94600698
>why would even those evil jews make movies about ww1 where america was slightly involved ?
fix
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>>94596104
there were clearly defined good and evil sides in WW2
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>>94600722
ernst jünger
>>94600744
it's to late imo
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>>94594340
Because American """educations""" still teaches kids that WW1 was nothing more than trench warfare.
Btw I still think that Adventures of young Indiana Jones is top-tier WW1 kino.
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>/mu/
Motorhead - 1916
>/lit/
William Barker VC
>/film/
J'accuse
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>>94594340
you want to know why?
okay.
it's because America didn't have a leading role in that conflict.
it doesn't the "America-fuck YEAH"-ism that WW2 does.
that's why.
almost all (western) movies are funded with US money and WW1 is not a conflict that can be portrayed as fundamentally US-centric, it was primarily a European thing.
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>>94600676
>American generals literally had to ask the French not too give African-Americans too many medals so it wouldn't make white american soldiers look bad in comparison
Ouch...

>>94600711
Yes of course, and as with everything, both served a purpose to each other with France as European's purveyors of capital thanks to the Second empire funding the entire industrialization of Russia, and Russia offsetting part of Birtain's hegemony with the Great game still ongoing. So even then, it's obvious it was nothing nothing blatantly against Germany but also against Britain.

But in essence just trying to make you see that the last fourty years of French internal and foreign policy had only been about fixating about the defeat against Germany.
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>>94594340
It's the same reason why we don't get Late Roman Empire kino
Not enough interest
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>>94600698
>vietnam
There's so many movies about nam because the (((media))) had a 24/7 demoralization campaign that "war is bad maaan, we just like...need more love for each other. all we need is love. We shouldn't be in Nam, live and let love maaaann" and relentless pro-gommunism shilling. It's just the natural evolution of that media shilling.
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>>94594482
came here to post this
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>>94600892
US involvement in WW1 is the single biggest disaster in US history, it completely fucked everything up
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>>94598406
Like when Britain blocked imports on Germany which was a clear violation of international law at the time?
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>>94600058
pls respond
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>>94600810
I love Storm of Steel but it's more a collection of short stories which would be hard to adapt to film

>>94600026
Interesting point. WW1 was only partially mechanized. Horses were everywhere and died by the tens of thousands. That would be a bitch.
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>>94600993
how is being anti-war bad?
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>>94598406
Truly, invading another country was an act unprecedented in European history.
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>>94600475
sauce?
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>>94600810
I promise you it isn't. Begin with yourself and work outwards. You have the knowledge, and you are as capable as any human ever born. If you let this crush your spirit then it really is too late, but it'll never be over so long as at least one man keeps up the fight.
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>>94599070
It really was.
F

>>94599397
Supposedly trench foot was easy to avoid if you wanted too.

>>94599577
>WW1 horror flick
Deathwatch exists
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>>94600993
>we just like...need more love for each other. all we need is love. We shouldn't be in Nam

yes its called chirstian values and such views on wars have been for centuries.
Dont you , pol , pray on christianity or you dont even know what that thing is except CRUSADE MEME)0?

>t"war is bad maaan,
Have you even been in army? In war?
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>>94601104
Don't be that guy.
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>>94600993
Are you trolling?

The MSM didn't turn on Vietnam until the very end. Shit, they were the ones who perpetuated the Gulf of Tonkin story.
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>>94600938
Or fuck, Roman kino that isn't the late republic/early empire in general
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Reminder Rothschilds planned WW1 a century before it happened to kill the Tsar of Russia, all his descendants and destroy his country.
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>>94594482
>>94594495

Wonder woman didn't give a shit. The popular imagination equates wwi and wwii. Nobody outside of online message boards actually cares.
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>>94600993
>blah blah jewish conspiracies bro

Or it was just one of the first wars to be broadly televised and the mere televising of war made people lose all enthusiasm for it, especially when it didn't seem like a fight against an existential threat and did seem like cynical geopolitics purchased at the cost of the lives of teenagers.

Big surprise, Americans don't like wars where they don't feel like the good guys and won't support them. Especially the teenagers/young adults expected to do the fighting.
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>>94599931
>>94601138
I wasn't meaning supernatural horror; I meant that to create an accurate WW1 film, you'd be making a film that would be best shot as horror.

>>94599955
This guy gets the idea.
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>>94600475
sauce pls
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so many dead white warriors

at what price?

;__;
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>>94601397
The real question is to what (((end)))?
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>>94601314

What about a movie where this one soldier starts talking to the mud, and then the mud starts forming into a golem and having conversations with him in the trenches.
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>>94601397
What is this? They look too old for Hitler Youth
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>>94598751
Literally medieval. Wow.
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someone post the WW1 gasmask greentext. Shits fucked up.
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>>94601805
Figuratively, you fuck.
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>>94601805

Convergent design friend.

>>94601836
>Think for a moment
>Oh I have this
>But it's mixed in with 5000 other pictures and still has the filename 4chan gave it
>Open up that folder, scroll randomly and it's right there at the first place I stop
>Name and post

This was fate Anonymous.
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War Horse is a good movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rda2No5Rcc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNGS3Ik2lx8
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>>94602005
thank you based trench warfare poster
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>>94601164
Evidence?
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>>94600475
sauce
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>>94598097
you don't sink into mud like that
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>>94602005
What a fucked-up war
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>>94600058
Watch the BBC documentary The Great War from the 1960's. It's the best documentary there is about the First World War. Loads of interviews with veterans too.
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>>94602146
There's mud, and then there's MUD, anon.
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but Wooden Crosses is the best war film of all time?
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This an excerpt from "All Quiet on the Western Front"
>During the day we loaf about and make war on the rats. Ammunition and hand-grenades become more plentiful. We overhaul the bayonets--that is to say, the ones that have a saw on the blunt edge. If the fellows over there catch a man with one of those he's killed at sight. In the next sector some of our men were found whose noses were cut off and their eyes poked out with their own saw-bayonets. Their mouths and noses were stuffed with sawdust so that they suffocated. Some of the recruits have bayonets of this sort; we take them away and give them the ordinary kind.

What is the reason that the saw type bayonets were so hated? Was it just due to the implication of their brutality?
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>>94598406
Both sides were engaging in war crimes you utter faggot.
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>>94602028
this looks kino, thanks
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>>94602316
The kind of wound that type of weapon makes is even more brutal than a regular one.

It was mostly propaganda about the brutality of it, but a saw blade like that does even more damage to internal organs etc than a regular.
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>>94598751
>the chain mace thingy

more useless than useful
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Why didn't they use metal plates as shields when advancing instead of being mowed down instantly?
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>>94602270
Shhh. Plebs need their Hollywood flicks.
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>>94600475
salsa plis
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>>94602470
It's at best a mediocre movie, they just did a good job on the setting details.

Watch some true ww1 kino
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>>94602546
Mortars and artillery would kill them just as effectively
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>>94596054
this?
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>>94594340
I recommend watching Kubrick's Paths of Glory. Although it might present frogs as cowards, it shows a good depiction on the brutality of WW1.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRPFQMO8yX4

how many days do you think you could put up with it lads
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Because WW II was frankly more cinematic.
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>>94602546
They did sometimes. It never helped.
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>>94602487
So did they actually fuck up soldiers who were caught using such a bayonet?
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There needs to be a WWI film that's as intense and brutal as this podcast makes it seem.
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>>94602487
Definitely propaganda. Stiletto is the deadliest, serrations are just good for sawing rope and shit.
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>>94602677
I've never really read anywhere that said that, but the guy who wrote All Quiet on the Western Front was an actual soldier that served there so I'd assume he knew what he was talking about.
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>>94602606
That one is Christmas kino
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WWI is the most kino war.

Going from horseback and essentially knight armour to tanks and machine guns in the span of 4 years is crazy.
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>>94602632

now imagine being cold and wet, sitting in a muddy hole with rotting bodies and rats everywhere and hearing this constantly.
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>>94602432
>Both sides were engaging in war crimes you utter faggot.

lol, not on the scale of what the Germans were doing their occupation of Belgium.
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Is it good?
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Am I the only person on /tv/ that has seen this movie? It was pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17kMM78bJpw
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>>94602736
Remarque was on the front for a couple of months, so I'd trust Jünger over him any day.
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>>94602715
I'd say a stiletto is most likely to kill, but a saw blade could do some really terrible rupture shit in someone's guts if pulled out any way but directly backwards.

Pretty unnecessary and all, but I know I'd be way the fuck more scared of it if I saw them beside each other.
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>>94597910
The entire world sucks China's cock way too much its never gonna happen
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmRRhxo0RHc

You know something was fucked up when even the Hollywood ww2 propaganda machine made it look gruesome as all shit.
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>>94597953
>have a look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Pd527GN48

Mechanisation of warfare took all the glory it had previously.
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>>94600783
You're right. Hitler did nothing wrong
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>>94602646
this
>ww1 (virgin)
>miserably sit in trenches for a year
>everyone is a regular joe who's been drafted, given a weapon and sent to sit in a trench
>ww2 (chad)
>massive logistical feats and offensives
>actual tactics and complex military organization
>paratroopers
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The Magic Flute is pretty good.
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>>94598208
Planes were literally made out of paper.
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>>94602958
Really nigger? That's the best trollpost you can do?
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>>94599116
How about the guy that gets sent out to cut barbed wire and then the next night has to go out and lay barbed wire because command can't decide if they're attacking or defending
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>>94601805
The beginning of the war was basically medieval warfare with explosives.
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>>94598208
Kittens
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>>94601397
there's a debt to be paid
let's go collect it
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>>94603075
epic! xD
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>>94598208
Being a high ranking officer
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>>94594482
>It's not a clear-cut good vs evil story.
You have pretty entry level philosophy understanding if you think any side in any war was "objectively" wrong or right. Just a fact.
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>>94602900
>Guys China will be the next power house
China is literally just HK and Beijing carrying the rest of it. If there was a serious war against China, it would stop almost immediately, because of the civil war that would start up. China is a goddamn joke.
inb4 I get swarmed by the ICDF that actually exist on 4chan.
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Firing a few rounds
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>>94601507
it's their elie LARPer unit
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>>94599070

At my Grans there is a collection letters sent by a Great Uncle who was mortally wounded at Gallipoli. Essentially he spent months training at home, then was shipped off to Egypt, where he continued to train, looked after some stables and it genuinely reads like he was enjoying himself experiencing life in another part of the world and there is some excitement about the experience.

The he was shipped off to Gallipoli, had time to write about another three letters in which he described his superior being shot in front of him and being afraid of what he had entered into. Then within about three weeks of landing at Gallipoli he died on a hospital boat returning to Alexandria.

He was 18.
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>>94603405
looks like a manlet playing with .22 casings
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>>94594340
I have always been dreaming of a surreal/psychological WW1 from the perspective of a naive soldier put into the frontlines and really shows how badly the war fucked the human brain
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>>94598208
WW1 Maverick was not horrible
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>>94603421
I love Mr. Plinkett
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>>94603718
The guy is obviously just smiling, and many historians have come out to say so. I know people want him to be the flag-bearer of "muh shell-shock" but it's still inaccurate.
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>>94602316
>>94602487

I seem to remember Robert Graves talking about something like that too in Goodbye to All That. How both sides would shoot prisoners if they found out they were using weapons that had an unwritten ban on because they caused undue suffering.
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>>94602682
What is this? After this thread I'm dying for the Great War stories.
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>>94603911
That's Dan Carlin.

You can also watch The Great War on Youtube. They break down the war and its events week by week in 10 minute chunks.
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>>94594340

This. Battlefield 1 has me wanting a good ww1 movie. It's the most sci-fi-ish of all wars imo
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>>94602715
What is the purpose of the "ricasso" indent? Also good thread we got here for once.
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>>94603911
Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast on WW1

Reads lots of letters from boys at the front. It's very long but I listened to it two years ago and don't regret a minute of it.
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>>94604089
To stab mother-fuckers real good
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>war is hell this
>war is hell that
Why can't we have a big budget fun WW1 movie, written to the tune of Schweik?
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>>94604089
... allows one to leverage to point of the blade into the other fucker more better
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>>94603891
What were some other weapons that were seen as "too dirty" to being used at the time? I mean if they could accept chemical warfare then what else could warrant an unofficial ban?
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>>94598669
very wrong. Germany wouldn't have been able to defeat the British Navy, not to mention the huge scale of production the Americans and Soviets put out that dwarfed German materiel.

They never had a chance going up against so many enemies with so much firepower and resources.
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>>94604008
>The Great War on Youtube
The channel? Or do you mean the 1964 series?
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>>94604089
Ergonomics, same as the ricasso and choil on a single-edged hunting knife
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>>94604376
gas was released first from dispensers, then from shells, they never actually caught the folks using it because they were miles behind the lines
and generally speaking if you were an artillery operator, it didn't matter all that much if you'd used gas or not, you were kos anyways
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>>94604376
Germans wanted a nerf, too OP’d
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>>94603603
Thats awful anon. I've got photo's and medals. I might ask to see if theres any letters now. F for your Great Uncles
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>>94604593
Really madly aesthetic even by 20th century gun standards. Pity it only reaches about 2 foot on every game its in
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>>94602076
The Tsar blocked the Rothschilds first one world government plans in the congress of vienna.
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>since youth was fed propaganda about how great and important it was for Australia to take part in the Gallipoli campaign and how heroic they were
>years later learn that the entire campaign was a complete joke that never would have amounted to anything anyway and the guilt of it haunted Churchill for the rest of his life.
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>>94594570
Nah, just Jews slaughtering goyim at it's end.
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>>94602715
>tfw Christopher Lee definitely killed some Germans with one of these
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>>94603421
is there a part 2?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOcEX3dYn3s
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you faggot neckbeards are pathetic. Tons are of WW1 movies, including many made by Jews

Present to me one (1) piece of evidence that there's a Jewish conspiracy to hinder the production of WW1 movies or fuck off back to your cp
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>>94604830
>mfw got to know it was the pride of all Australia via the internet
>mfw more Brits and French participated in the campaign than ANZACs did and we don't even know of its existence
Same for Vimy ridge, pathetic victory to derive such pride from.
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>>94604821
This fella knows whats up. Look into this boys. The truth is out there
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>>94604821
Will you Jon Birch shitters get the fuck out
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>>94600424
Because he would know how retarded his niece is. Yeah, I understand.
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>>94604821
evidence
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>>94602811
Little cheesy for me.
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>>94604830
But they were there Australianon. They answered are call in our time of need. Maybe the situation they were thrust into is no particular source of pride, but your countrymen conduct was. Be eternally proud of them.

I wish i could find a picture that only celebrated our nation, and not the idiots who led it to ruin, but this'll have to do
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>>94605012
fuck off. Thousands of young Europeans died in a war that only benefited the financial interest of big bankers many of which (but not all) were jewish. They don't "deliberately sabotage" ww1 movies but theres definitely a focus on WW2 and you can't prove otherwise. Why wouldn't a jewish dominated industry focus on a story that has more meaning to them?
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>>94597851
*ahem*
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>>94605164
*celebrates your nation*
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>>94605076
Did you reply to the wrong comment? Whose niece? whose fucking uncle? WAT?
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>>94605238
Whats that abo dude got to do with anything?
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>>94602950
Hitler was the evil guy, he even coined "Axis of Evil" with pride.
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>>94594570
This/\
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>>94605164
Australia was never under direct threat, we joined only because of Britain and wanting to join the world's pissing competition. Celebrating ANZAC Day is the dumbest thing to happen to this country, we should be honouring those that fought on the Kokoda trail. Those men are real heroes who actually defended Australia against a rational threat.
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Actual answer:

1.) The high-budget film industry, both historically and today, is based essentially entirely in the US. The US arrived late in WW1 and didn't do all that much and it doesn't have much influence on the American consciousness

2.) WW1 was a dreary non-romantic war. No glorious stormings of the beaches, no big decisive battles, etc.. The actual battles themselves were repetitive, anti-climatic and visually horrifying. The only romantic aspect is the air war, of which a number of films have been made (more than any other theatre)

3.) The war is more morally grey and has ambiguous roots.

4.) It's a bizarre war for today's audiences, between european absolute monarchies, empires, and nations which no longer exist.

5.) No living veterans

6.) War movies in general have died out as a genre after a brief reassurance after 9/11. Audiences won't see them anymore.

Or, if you have a double-digit IQ, we can say "the jews did it".
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>>94605367
Hitler was /ourguy/
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>>94605012
>you faggot neckbeards are pathetic

https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/T_aELgU17jqabxaWJgTIeQ/
The leftist cries out in pain as he strikes you. Fuck off chinky boy.
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>>94599722

god damn white people are awesome
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>>94598972
>Beneath Hill 60

thanks
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>>94598230
My old man occasionally tells me about when he was a young lad and his grandfather told him about Gallipoli. If it bothers him to talk about it I can only imagine what it was like for his grandad.
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>>94605447
You are our kinsfolk across the world whether YOU in particular like it or not. WE mourn the dead at Gallipoli and the Kokoda trail every year since because they are our honoured dead too. You don't think that if even today Australia was to face a grave national threat, that your brothers from across the world would come blazing down there to your aid. I guarantee you they bloody would. No i don't mean the cowardly ineffectual governments of the modern anglosphere, i mean the people. They would come boganon, you wouldn't even have to ask and they would.
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>>94601397

>if hitler had just stopped after france and created an all white EU we would still have a future
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>>94602546

>just carry a ten pounds gun
>and twenty pounds of gear
>and a metal shield thick enough to stop a 30-06 bullet
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>>94597801
>in WWI you had the same general using the same tactic try to take the same fortified position and failing 11 god damn times
shoutout to my mans on the right
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>>94605228
So no evidence of a jewish conspiracy against WW1 movies then just your own mindless speculation.

YOU fuck off you repulsive neckbeard
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>>94598406
the vast majority of the accounts of german war crimes in belgium were brit propaganda. what the germans did there isn’t wholly different from what american soldiers are doing on okinawa now
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>>94598751
*distant grunting*
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>>94606132
can you not understand what i'm saying here?
Have left wing politics made you retarded? The jews do dominate in Hollywood and they often use that position to make films about stories that are close to them, this is not a "conspiracy" this is accepted and normal human behavior, however it results in a lack of ww1 films because they are both just war movies at the end of the day and jewish owned hollywood only makes a certain amount of war films per year, they use that certain amount to make stories that more prominently feature the jewish experience, because they are jewish, and its more important to them. You keeping up with me you fucking soyboy retard? The reason why you don't have a neckbeard is because that would require more testosterone than you are capable of producing you disgusting faggoty bitch. I could literally bugger you blind for a mild diversion you fucking pussy
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>>94597851
you could seriously write a movie that depicts the drama before the war, the sparks that ignited the flames of war. You could make characters you grow with during the rising tensions, and then put them in band of brothers trench warfare type scenarios(even add a little nod to hitler with an unnamed soldier who's quiet, but there for the fight) which results in said characters dealing with such brutal warfare. Then highlight the problems of acting out irrationally via the dumb serb college student who shot Franz Ferdinand.

TL;DR showcase hightening tensions, likable/relatable characters, the brutality of war, and the irrationality that lead to it all-it could've been averted.
Your heroes are not just those who garnered rep on the battlefield, but generals, politicians, and even the no name soldiers who likely may have not existed but don't know whether or not they actually did because of the death toll.
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>>94605164
It's more that the end goal of the greater campaign behind the attempt on the Dardanelles was a complete joke and had exactly 0% chance of succeeding or accomplishing really anything.

It's not a case of Australia answering the call, it's that they really died for nothing.
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>>94606735
That sounds hard, I'd rather write a movie where a superhero punches the bad guy




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