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All Idols welcome except SideM.
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Gen 1
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Uzuki pls
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I have no idea about what's happening here.
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Say Cheeks!
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Is this crack? I would know if the game was in english.
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I want Anzu to lightly stomp Kirari's vagina while teasing her about being a lolicon because she hangs around a lot of little girls.
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>search for that one artist that made some nice Kanade/Fumi images and doujin
>they were apparently harassed and bullied off the internet closing all of their accounts
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>>2388274
Fuck, now I'm sad. They were one of the only few hardcore kanafumi artists. It's unfortunate they had to go through all that.
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>>2388274
Do you know what happened exactly to them? I also noticed their accounts were gone.
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No, I just found the closed accounts and a long message that I Google-translated.
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I'm in a shortage of Koume
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I hope Ryo and Koume interact in more official materials now that they're both voiced.
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>I hope Mirei and Koume interact in more official materials now that they're both voiced

here, fixed it for you.
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This is lewd.
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Kako and Hotaru are cute together.
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>>2401008
Koume is for everyone
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Wawawa
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Cute.
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>>2408390
>>2410282
>>2410784
>>2411569
>>2411572
>>2412077
>>2412081

loads of UzuRin
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UzuRin heals me.
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you know you needs more
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Yo, does Theatre Days needs more firepower than Starlight Stage?
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>>2417788
Maybe but if we want to discuss this let's not get into vg@ levels of bullshittery.
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>>2417788
>more firepower
What?
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My sis is really into im@s. But only the original one. She hates every other generation with a passion. My point is, got any TakanexHibiki?
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>>2418403
Your sister should really give the rest a chance.
Missing out on Anzu and Kirari is just sinful, if you ask me.
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Speaking of Kirari and Anzu, yesterday and today were their respective birthdays.
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>>2418095
Someone made a General Thread for Idols.

I'll leave it up to you girls to decide whether we abandon this thread and head there.
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>>2418403
>She hates every other generation with a passion.
Wtf why?
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>>2418569
She's really attached to original characters. I guess she wanted the focus to remain on them.Thanks for the pics anons.
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Do you have a pairing you like for the unvoiced, or just unpopular CGs?
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>>2418810
I have this weird fantasy of Atsumi starting to hang around Airi just to see her undress and to take advantage of her. Airi would be pretty willing too, since she's such an airhead.

I think Atsumi would also work with Haru, since there is some inherent cantrat in there: Atsumi mostly love the female body, while Haru distances herself from her own female appeal. You could even imagine Atsumi would want to show her the "advantages of being a woman".
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>>2418818
>some inherent cantrat
That's "some inherent constrast".
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>>2418810
I like Noa with everyone. She might be a big-sis type to some idols, but she also needs a girlfriend.
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Why are these 2 so freaking awesome together.
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>>2420944
Because Canon.
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>>2422939
Wait, really? So I should watch Cinderella?
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>>2422944
Actually these two are the closest thing to canon pairing in the CG anime.
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>>2422944
It's teased more heavily than the other pairings, with pic rel being the only exception.
Honestly the anime was mediocre at best, and way worse than the original IM@S, but some of the songs were good, and now CG yuri fanart/doujins make more sense. It's up to you.
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>>2422974
I'd say AnKira are even closer.
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>>2423024
I think the anime was responsible for now standard pairings like MinamixAnya and RiinaxMiku.

Maybe they were in the CCG, but I only know of an event way back that ship teased Riina and Natsuki.
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>>2423024
>Honestly the anime was mediocre at best, and way worse than the original IM@S

Have you seen Gekijou?
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>>2423024
I really, really hate idolshit. They bore me to tear no matter how many times I've tried to watch LL, Im@s, AKB, Locodol, BanG Dream, etc. But I like the design of those two girls a lot (Rin x Uzuki) so I'll try. Thanks.
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>>2423101
If you inherently hate idol anime, then I doubt anying about this will change your mind.
Though in some ways CG is slightly more honest about the industry than others, though not much. To the girls they're trying to follow their "dream", while the director of production studio is a cold-ass bitch who doesn't give a shit about dreams and effort and just wants results.

Would have been a hell of a twist if Uzuki ended up getting cut, but alas they went with a more unrealistic ending
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>>2423111
I gave up on liking idolshit long ago. I'm just hoping to catch the CGDCT and FRIENDSHIP moments while tuning out their idol talks.
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>>2423111
The CG game itself kind of pushes it by allowing you to have dozens upon dozens of idols without having them somehow fall apart due to immature infighting as befits a bunch of teenager girls.

I'd imagine Producer must really be a master of recruitment and selection to pick up all those eternally kind girls. Even Reina, who is kind of a bitch, only really pranks the others every once in a while.
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>>2423058
I have. My point still stands.
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>>2418569
>>2420940
https://exhentai.org/g/1111903/1a22ccdf44/
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I haven't really thought about it until now, but is there a reason why Sachiko is on the 4chan logo for the front page?
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>>2423101
>>2423117
I blame this goddamn series for popularizing the self-insert bullcrap which has been one of the Kryptonites of /u/. Kancolle, BGHS, Two Car, and Uma Musume have all followed the footsteps of IdolMaster. I wish this should've never ever born.
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>>2425017
I get that just have some kind of personal grudge against this series, but Idolmaster took all its cues from the thousands of visual novels that came before it.

If you want to blame something blame the existence of eroge. Blame the fact that most games cater to hetero males. Or even better do something more productive than whining about something that will never change on /u/.
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>>2425017
LOLWhat?
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>>2424538
Okay, that was really sweet and cute. Thank you, Onee-sama!
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>>2425017
Go back to the other idol thread if you want to bitch about Idolm@ster, dude.

>>2425024
>If you want to blame something blame the existence of eroge
Finally someone with a brain. Self-inserts have always existed because plenty of pathetic otaku prefer media that let them fantasize about fucking their waifus instead of an actual story. It's not Im@s the main culprit.
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>>2425507
>Self-inserts have always existed because plenty of pathetic otaku prefer media that let them fantasize about fucking their waifus
I get that smelly otaku are a popular punching bag, but be realistic. Self-insert has been a thing since literacy was common and fiction became a form of escapism.

Really, what's the difference between an Japanese otaku playing the latest eroge and a Victorian governess reading Jane Eyre?
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>>2425017
>>2425024

Hate to talking shit about this self insert meme, wheter I really liked it or not. But my experience so far shows that most of this self-insert medium, whether from the VN/Eroge or the tamer works such as Aidoru games and mobages with obscure player character, feels rather limited for my imagination. I want to be a retarded, ill-tempered, totalitarian P whose insanity encompasses Sheogorath himself that he manages to cringe at my face, where I will kidnap girls and genetically modify them to be the cutest/coolest/most passionate idol being ever existed, doing so far as immorally dehumanize them. Or I want to be a P originated from a witch family line where I put a spell on every idol I scouted so they'll will be my followers that envies my ancestor, building a fantasy civilization with theaters and arenas, turning this domain of entertainment into my personal fairytale kingdom. But no, they give me a lowest common denominator of a self insert medium, a P that every other idol clings without proper reason other than being a superior who hold their career.
I shouldn't talk about this here but when I'm going to talk about it?

Ok back to /u/. Anyone had a clue with this minicomic? I've got it lying on my picture library and have been searching for other part of it, but my search find no clue.
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>>2425540
>Really, what's the difference between an Japanese otaku playing the latest eroge and a Victorian governess reading Jane Eyre?
Except that this otaku is the one who has the better serving. Unlike the literature example, companies who makes eroge acknowledges this and keep pandering these otaku and care less about the others, sacrificing creative process for sake of milking fans, hence why eroges feel repetitive at some times. Meanwhile the book writer on the victorian era has less transparency towards it's subscribers and freely uses their creative process without being completely interfered by fans and their needs.
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>>2425540
Oh, you're right about it, I'm not denying it. But I was only talking about the anime/game industry, since that's what people are complaining about. I have little interest in debating whether self-inserts are good or bad in general, like in literature. The difference here would be that this genre of fiction (usually) doesn't end up ruining other type of stories to appeal to this kind of audience only.

>>2425554
Your ideas are... very creative. It made me think of how boring the actual dynamic between P-san and idols is.
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>>2425610
>it's an idol dating sim at best
But it's not. That's what you don't seem to understand.
Something having a visual novel format doesn't make it a "dating sim," which is honestly a terrible term that doesn't describe the majority of the things its used on.
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>>2424930
Because she is punchable? Like every one of us in this thread?
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KanaFumi artist Romi is back, if y'all haven't yet noticed.
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>>2426624
where
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>>2426690
@346_ura is their Twitter handle. Pixiv is still dead though.
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>>2426889
Is it just me or have more doujin artists been making full-color books recently? I think for the past couple of years all of Isya's have been in color.

All her Mika doujins have been color, and I think Rule of Zero is now color.
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Recommend me a light im@s yuri, please.
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I felt like since Im@s nature of pandering towards it's audience, there's a lackluster amount of Yuri content by creators. You either try harder looking for one or make one by yourself.
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I feel ya, but I've managed to find enough artists that are dedicated to IM@S yuri and specific pairings that this isn't too much of an issue anymore. At least for CG.
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Is selfcest allowed?
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Only if you can post more.
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New 765 game just revealed.
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>>2431648
I guess
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>>2431850
i thought this was a joke but now i'm hype

http://stella-stage.idolmaster.jp/
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>>2431850
>>2432226
apparently there's a new idol from 961Pro. I hope she has shippy rival moments with our girls.
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>>2432560
So, in other words a new idol who will inevitably leave to join 765
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>>2432561
Maybe. Or it'll be like Leon where she stays with Kuroi.

speaking of Kuroi himself...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SxjBWJPf78
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Waiting for Imas CG related yuri work feels like
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>Genderbending shit.
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Airi's Airis turn little girls gay.
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I always find a few original female producers when I go searching for yuri.
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>>2441229
I'm used to Ryo/Koume and Ayame/Tamami, but this is ok.
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Just in case anyone was wondering:
https://exhentai.org/g/1102737/f10c238e84/
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Is the theater animes worth watching?
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>>2446749
no, check what is wrong with the franchise, but the fandom does not realize that is bad.

I'll watch Side-M just to see how it's better than the regular series.
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>>2446789
I respond to myself, Side-M is better Anime.
Maybe I'm just ahead, but the first episode works much better than the first one in CG at least. At least he does not have a stupid, glorified Meme.
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>>2446789
>>2447996
You're on the wrong board if you're going to talk about yaoi. We are not interested in that type of thing here.
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Harumiki is the best/.
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>>2448028
I know what I'm doing, it only depresses me as Side-M is not afraid to go for "his public" and CG (especially in the Modagame) points without any fear of self-insertion of men.
I know it's not quite lost, but the Yuri material is extremely secondary, especially compared to other franchises.

in the end I know that I am the idiot for waiting for what does not exist, but it bothers me that the bait to "that" public has more quality.
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>>2448051
Why is it surprising? It is a well known fact that the female otaku audience are mostly fujoshis who want to see yaoi in their shows, and the show is aimed at them. That's not the case for im@s in general, and their target audience are largely males who want to self-insert as the producer (which is the entire point of the game it's based on, hence the title).

In fact the show went above and beyond what I expected for yuri, with only Miki flirting with the producer while the rest had completely professional relationships with him.
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>>2448099
I have to give credit to Im@s original, it is good to see how people acted as normal people and Miki worked a little.
CG is not so bad, but it was the fandom that ruined everything stupidly, Gekijou is crap.

What bothers me is that Side-M has somehow more quality as a series and even their characters convinced me a little.
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>>2446789
The bad part comes from how the featureless producer gets thrusted into the girls issue, including skits where the producer is not even involved, often had them clinging on them for no other reason. Otherwise, it's a decent time waster. Just stick with the original yonkoma. The detective story and the super robot one are my favourite so far.

>>2447996
GC has a weak opening and a zigzagging pace and has no sense of should they go fast or slow, and that's not including the second season disaster, although i admit S2 has it's own moments, it's just doesn't executed right.
Anyone watching this were only for the broducer. Otherwise, stick with the games.

>>2448051
>>2448099
That's also the reason i kinda sad because not anyone who likes IM@S also has a thing on girl on girl pairing, even if it's more platonic than romantic, and they prefer the basic self insert, or just play the rhythm game without minding the story, because they can't read Japanese properly. However, if you're seeking for a pairing and any fanwork regarding it, lemme give you guys some advice;
>said pairing were pretty close in game ie. pairing of idols who worked on the same unit like Kaede/Miyu from Yoi Otome
>said pairing is at least acknowledged by Scamco or the fans
>said pairing has to make sense (examples are Kaede/Mizuki since they're in the same age area or Kaede/Minami because in game it's hinted that Kaede influenced her into more seductive) and has something in common. you can't have a pairing of characters that barely ever interact with each other or just doesn't fit well in the description, thought crack ship is also there.
>believe in your pairing, because they believe in you too.
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>>2448474
my problem in itself is not so blatant that is the appeal to Waifufags, if not how stupid that all this in the end.

affects characters more than people believe, in character profiles it feels like every character can only live with the producer involved, even when really is only an employee with a target, in the end the characters feel empty and That's the reason why Gekijou sucks so much.
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Just give us an 876 anime, ai and eri had some pretty heavy yuri potential with their sides.
ryou is there too but he doesn't really affect the yuri.
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>>2449078
Come to think of it, it's kinda suck and creepy at some point. The idols were attached to the producer, living by producer, stuck with the producer, forever and ever. It's like Gekijou really doesn't recognize the idol as a character that has life outside of producers. They'll be destined to be with producer forever without a purpose or reason why would they, fucking creepy. That alone turned down yurifags, and I believe it'll creep out waifufags too to an extent.
Heck the trainwreck CG S2 understand that the idols are a human being with life outside the idolitary. Fuck even Puchimas understand this issue.
The Gekijou comics were designed as pandering media first and foremost. But they come as far as trying to dip the intended audience to the fridge horror creeps me to sleep.
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>>2449115
The only idolxproducer pairing we'll ever need.
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>>2449956
Eri really seems like a honeypot for yuri
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>>2449956
fuck she looks like Misato Katsuragi for some reason
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>>2449871
so I say that Gekijou shows what is wrong with the franchise (in general), it is depressing that his "fans" do not see that as a bad thing.
the "Takeushi" movement does not make things better.
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>>2449871
>>2451281
To be fair most fans of the original series hate CG and as a result gikijou. ML too to a lesser extent.

CG lucked out with the mobage crowd and is now just milking it for all its worth.
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>>2451399
although the original is not entirely innocent, it can be said that CG increased the problems already present.

after seeing the second episode of side-m remember, what the hell was going on with the quality in CG Anime?
this Anime is more or less an emblem for A-1 and the worst thing is that it seemed like the budget was being used on that piece of shit Saekano.
Gekijou's second was more or less terrible, the non-P parties were decent, but they even managed to ruin the Rock moment.
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>>2452789
The original isn't innocent because its still a game aimed at male otakus for waifu collecting.
But due to the low amount of girls they could actually give them real personality and ability to live on their own.
Thanks to the anime they allowed some nice yuri ships as well just due to the male self insert being literally so boring they threw him into a hole and forgot about him.

But in the end im@s is a waifu oriented game not a yuri one. The yuri ships are mostly just for fun and most people, even the male waifufags, agree its the more fun aspect of the series, even if its not what its being marketed for.
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>>2452992
what I find funny in the end is that the "yuri" part treats the characters as people in their own right, while the "het" part sees them as mere pets at the best (no matter how strange the characters are).
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>>2453279
You hold that thought there.
and just playing the devil's advocate part of that is because yuri is fanwork, het fanworks also give more life to the character than the games do simply because they have more to work with and much more freedom to explore various things. yuri just has a bigger market for the non-porn sol things than het fanartists do.
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>>2451399
>>2452789
>To be fair most fans of the original series hate CG
>ML fags still chasing this old fantasy
可哀想に...
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Before I realized I fell in love with this pairing, they have a lot of cute art together.
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Why are so many people hating on CG in this thread.
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>>2454712
CG Is much more waifufag pandering than other installation, given the amount of character they have. But most fans including waifufags agreed that relationship between idols are more fun than between idols and their self insert producer. Though the hate is mostly delivered on the anime and gekijou more than the game.
I don't really like waifupandering, what bothers me is that they didn't even try to establish the girls as someone that has life outside of their attachments towards the producers, which plague most of it's character. It's just creepy.
And the reason why CG got a lot of flak is that the anime sucked hard, despite the fact A-1 have everything they need to make something good on it. It's a lowest common denominator version of the previous IM@S anime, due to inconsistencies reason during the planning that makes season 2 contradict with everything happened during the at least passable season 1. Mishiro-ojou could have been a troubled but nuanced executive but they dropped it and turned her into a stock bad boss. Really, the only one you can blame here is A-1 pictures, because starting with 2014 they going dumb and dumber and it's just a downhill from there. The only thing that they done right is that the waifupandering is watered down, and relationship between idols are implemented even further than the games, which spawns some of the most popular pairings like AnyaNitta and CatRock.
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>>2454712
although I could not blame the CG Anime (I think) that what happened with Takeuchi.
The annoying thing is that a boring character and really nothing interesting, became more popular than the real protagonists. and people think that's good.

I can not hate Anime completely, really introduced me to CG (reading the character profiles is awful) and I really want to blame Saekano for the low quality in animation.

>>2454795
Relations between the Idols require more effort on the part of their fans, but with the producer only appeal their personal fetishes (even characters with established personality) and if they do not tell you the name of the Idol, you do not realize who it is.
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>>2454712
They're the definition of 1 note characters shotgunned out to appeal to the max number of people possible.

Even the anime's entire theme was based on this
>But we don't want to give up the (one) thing that makes us special!
>I'm literally nothing if you take away my annoying bunny theme

Characters are entirely based upon a given trait assigned to them, then made to lust after the producer, often in ways that don't even make sense with the small amount of characterization you have to minimally give someone in order to have them talk.
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>>2456427
The anime was terrible and most CGfags acknowledge this.
Doesn't change the fact that most Western fans are secondaries who were introduced to CG through the anime, which would likely greatly color their opinion of it.
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>>2456430
Even the games are pretty much the same. Its a bunch of 1 note appeal characters hoping to get people interested in that trait. And if it fails, then it doesn't matter because they have 20 more girls to shoot at you and hope one hits.
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I understand that the girls from Idolmaster are pretty much the producer's harem. So just a question, is the text in the games genderless when the girls talk to to you as the producer? Pls.
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>>2456436
I won't deny that given CG's number of girls, some characters are indeed like that. The newer ones, the ones that never became terribly popular, etc. But I can also tell that opinion of yors is coming from a place of either ignorance, malice, or maybe even both. Especially if you think all CG girls are like that.

And one other thing: I've been an idolmaster fan for over ten years now, and I love the franchise very much, but I don't think it's a good idea to think of the franchise of more than what it is. And I'm almost certain that when I first heard about the game, I thought that the original concept was petty waifu-ism with one-note cookie cutter girls meant to hit a variety of people's fetishes.
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>>2456444
Characters as far back as Ami and Mami have always referred to the Producer as "nii-chan", Anon. It's not even kind of a question.
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>>2456451
At least the anime portray him as an overworked salaryman just trying to make a living instead of a harem lead that all the girls want. So it's not all bad.
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>>2456444
I wouldn't really use the word harem as far as the original games are concerned. Some of the characters fall in love with the producer like Azusa and Miki but most are platonic. It varies from game to game though.

>>2456528
I like how they handled him. While he got close with the idols things never progressed beyond him being a friendly boss and he usually tried to keep things professional. They could have done it like the garbage Break manga and made it a full blown harem so I was a bit worried at first. Actually it's a good thing im@s has so many continuities. Since there isn't any canon continuity then you can ignore garbage like Break and Gekijou while believing in your own continuity. That's not really possible for other series that only has a single continuity.
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>>2418403
>>2418805
I can totally understand how genwunners feel.

>>2449115
Unfortunately, Dearly Stars is completely ded and it's obvious why.

>>2455535
Had it aired any other season, they wouldn't have thought it was good, but it aired in the same season as KanColle, an anime where the faceless admiral was handled really badly, and this made even CG with its producer look good.

>>2456444
Some of the commus explicitly state that the producer is a guy.
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>>2455535
>The annoying thing is that a boring character and really nothing interesting, became more popular than the real protagonists. and people think that's good.
Self inserters think that''s good. They like when the guy is interesting because they can transfer that to themselves.

That aside, he became popular because he 1) was new, and the new toy always gets the most attention and 2) was actually pretty cute and appealing in the first episode. But then again, everything about the show was better in the first episode.
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>A thread about self-insert idol series
>That just confirmed "Fuck yuri, we only do harem and fujo"
>The self-insert producer will always be a guy
>Yuri fans unironically defending those guys
>Another series that also confirmed "Fuck FeMCs. Male MCs make our series sell better"
>In a board about yuri
Why is this allowed here?
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>>2457426
Fuck your shit, I'm having fun.
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>>2457426
Talking shit about something shit like self insert shit are fun
Besides, IM@S never seen to make your producer a true harem seeker and at least treats em like a character. Dunno about Gekijou tho, but Break manga is haremshit.
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>>2457426
>insane amounts of yuri fanart in iM@S
>he's complaining about shit
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>>2425554
Fucking hell mate, you captured the essence of Idolm@ster far more than any of the official stuff has done.
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>>2457426
All anything needs to have a thread on this board is yuri images. If you don't like it, just hide the thread.
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To be fair, you have to be a fucking smart to understand the Yuri aspect of Idolm@ster. These aren't just kooks an dooks you waifufags can understand within days. The essence of idol and idol relationship is enforced to the root by the fans who studied and compared it to a classic vampire novel Carmilla where forbidden relationship can be reformed through hardwork, something that you waifufags don't understand. The ideal of Idolm@ster is not to collect them all like you waifufags been doing, but it's to establish them into a relationship towards each other, flock them in a spectrum where they will groom and breed, based on Pvt. Dr. Rico Cowalski research about humans established a relationship with someone else through means of inner thoughts. The refeeence about Parvet Jayeti "Book of Life" about girl on girl relationship is also shown great on both Cinderella Girls and Million Live quiet perfectly. You producer waifufags can jist do your paperwork, assign them on a schedule, and should not ever intefere their relationship as you producers are toxic amongst them. Nothing personnel, kid....
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>>2458314
Nice blog, sis.
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>>2458314
I find that what im@s does, is to at least partially get around the issues that a producer/idol relationship causes by having the idol be in love with the producer without him having to make a move. This is why in OG, CG and even ML, just about all the girls have romantic feelings for the producer. Naturally, this attracts numerous waifufags to the franchise. As an aside, this may very well be why DS became irrelevant; there was little to no such dynamic for them.
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>>2458314
Nice copypasta. Do you have an idolm@ster tattoo, too? or am I thinking of the wrong copypasta?
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>>2458330
I am actually one of those secondaries. I thought the anime was good because all I knew about Idolmaster was that it was a waifu series, and the anime dropped the harem angle entirely and tried its best to develop an actual plot.

But looking back at it, it does seem a bit forced. The whole thing attempts to paint the idol business in the most ideal way imaginable (note how they say they "want to shine" instead of "wanting attention", which is what that actually means), but it dangerously skirted the very same terrain it wanted to avoid.

Mishiro herself was developing a good project with her employees, and that was really working out for the company, so why is she the bad girl? Because she wants to trample the girl's originality and character, yes, but that's probably part of their contracts, and despite of this we never get to see the idol business shown as the business that it actually is, because that would mean breaking the ideal the plot wanted to sustain.

We never really know why wearing their animal ears was so important to them either, but we were supposed to assume that it was. It's a very non-relatable conflict overall.

The whole series can burn down for all I care though. The anime gave me this scene and this is really all I wanted. AnKira is what keeps me out of life support.
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>>2458581
Yeah, I never would have guesed going in that they'd turn out to be my fave couple. They're both fun characters and have a great dynamic together.
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>>2458581
the idea of Mishiro decides to go professional kinda catches me, and i really don't like quirk-reliant pussies like Nana enforcing her rabbit ayy character for simply "eeh without my quirk i am nothing" despite Nana is fucking blows herself in "Inochi Moyashite Koiseyo Otome" into another level of professionalism, a proof that she doesn't need to be quirky for it. If Mishiro see them as nonsense she will cast aside for better solution, i see them as a crutch that would make them dead in long run and would have no qualms to Brightslap them into MEN OF DESTINY.
The problem is, Mishiro is established as a bad boss at first time. She decides to make the production focused on music, and not only enforce her sets and demand to close CINDERELLA PROJECT, but also other project by other producer, leaving the idols in distaste, hence why they went rogue. She is also a stock cynic capitalist, she really only cares about profit and the Winter Ball in the ending still wins her for how much profit she gets. Keep that in mind, a professional competition doesn't match well with a cynical view. It really kills the purpose of being professional since she just really care about the profit and not the competitive essence.
I would rather have the Downer Ending, where Uzuki does gets fired after Winter Ball for "incompetency reason" by Mishiro, which makes other staff question her competency as well, and pretty much makes the good chunk of the production as her enemy, this gives her doubt whether her move is really a good move at the first place. Takeuchi quits the agency and become a drunkard, and the Cinderella Project is pretty much dead. Mishiro's performance slowly deters as no one is eager to work with her. No one wins, and one day she is missing and never seen again, until she suddenly breaks a meeting in a fitting rage, setting a sequel based on Starlight Stage. I would actually see her as a protagonist herself if there's a sequel based on SS.
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>>2457426
Is that you anti-idolfag? You keep coming to this thread to complain, you must really like Idols deep down
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>>2458924
>I would rather have the Downer Ending
You need to write a fanfiction, onee-san. This sounds really good and interesting, plus I love Mishiro (although the writing was not very kind to her character). Just add more yuri and it will be flawless.
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>>2458924
>after thinking it over I finally realize mishiro is basically just what I would be as the owner
she wasn't ever even a bad guy, she just had a different vision for where the company should go. and as the owner it makes sense for her to pursue it.

The stupid forced quirks really piss me off too. Its one thing if its important to the character in some way or another, its another if its just there in order to "appeal" to people.
e.g. look at hibiki, she's an animal idol. but that's because animals are her life and she loves them. its not because
>cats are popular, i'll surround myself to appeal to everyone!
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>>2460096
The problem is that she is presented as the designated villain of the show, by showing that she only cares about the profit the production has earned, which irks me a lot because how A-1 poorly handle her.
I kinda agree with the idea of pointless quirks are stupid and unecessary on stage. It's fine for them perform their quirks occasionally, but overuse them and it'll be their crutch, and in long run people will find it no longer funny and jist cast her aside as nothing more than so last season, hence the reason why Ranko and Nana popularity fell over from the tenth floor.
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>>2460129
To be fair Ranko is still hugely popular, in part because she has great visuals, a great theme, and is a great singer.
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>>2460270
Ranko is not a singer, she's a fictional character.
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>>2460326
You're a fictional character anon.
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>>2457692
>>2457739
So if iM@S has so many yuri fanarts, then how come it won't pander to yuri fans by including a female Producer-san or remove the self-insert altogether? SideM went full fujo when its Producer-san for a group full of idol boys is also a boy. Would've make more sense if it had a female Producer-san so the fujos gets the same treatment as yuri fans. Instead, SideM very much confirmed that iM@S will never go full yuri because it won't sell. It's like iM@S yuri fans love being treated like shit while everyone else gets everything.
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>>2460595
Nah, Scamco just wants male producers. Even if we have genderless idols the producer will still be a guy.
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>>2460595
Side m is just more shounen Esque in general. Rather than fujos they probably wanted to cut all romance ties in general and just go full on bros doing bro things.

Ironically, they probably feel that using a woman producer for girl idols would make it more subtexty and yuri due to the fan art already there.

You could say that fujos do this too. But it's easier to ignore the cries that something is male homosexual than the subtext of yuri because when fujos go yaoi, it's very explicit. When yurifans do yuri, it ranges from heavy subtext to explicit allowing for a female producer to make those yuri vibes while a male producer doesn't make yaoi vibes.
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>>2460716
What a pathetic, sexist company. They believe that producers should be males only. Ritsuko is hardly considered as a producer. The first anime should have been her as the MC.
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>>2460595
>how come it won't pander to yuri fans by including a female Producer-san
While some do, yurifans do not usually self insert.

>or remove the self-insert altogether?
Idolmaster would not be Idolmaster without the Producer. It has been a dating sim/raising game since its inception, and I honestly cannot imagine it as anything but. I'm just grateful that some games include plenty of content where the Producer is not at all involved and the relationships between the girls are highlighted.

Oh, and games aside, some official manga have been pretty light on Producer involvement, too. The first CG one swapped the Producer out completely for the Trainers. Of course it was also unfortunately pretty short-lived.
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>>2460326
>>2460332
All of Cinderella Girls cast has been killed by The Voice last christmas anon, therefore im@s is ded too.
The only reason why this thread still existed is because we're too horny thinking about a fictional singer named Ranko character and imagining her fingering fixtional singer called Asuka's pussy while at the same time sperging about self insert producers, therefore preserving their existence.

>>2460270
Ranran's rank has slowly fell after she gets her Cinderella Girl namesake.
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>>2460952
Happens to just about everyone who's won it once. CoolPs are particularly good at spamming a single idol just so she can have her turn at winning and then focus on the next girl. This is why almost every CG namesake has been a Cool.
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>>2460952
basically >>2461479
the cool idols are on a rotational basis. The fact ranko consistently ranks fairly decently is good enough.
They follow a
>she's won before so we don't need to bother voting for her
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>>2467008
Spoilers to protect virgin eyes. We need more yuri figures, but I think that's a topic for the buyfag thread.
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>>2467083
Get a figma of imas character, a plain female body figma, detach their heads and replace them, then create your own heinous poses.

I personally like hand holding.
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>>2474920
Question.
What exactly kind of siccness Karen has fell into? Does it spread on Yuri activities?
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>>2476487
I don't think it's ever been said, but if I had to guess was probably anemia - the medical condition of choice for all sickly anime girls.

We do know that her health has improved, which is why she can be an idol.
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Interest is at an all time low.
I couldn't keep this thread alive. I'm sorry.
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>>2481039
That's just how it is with the constant generals we've been having. You can only discuss the same things and post the same images so many times before things start to stagnate. It's a bit of a shame since I love iM@S and a good number of my favorite pairings are from it, but I'm fine just keeping them in my thoughts. Even if there aren't any threads I'm never going to forget my favorites. Besides we can always start the threads up again if we get more content worth having discussions over.
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>someone just died tiering for the deresute event
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>>2481661
Seriously?
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>>2481667
Unconfirmed rumors some Chinese player died in the name of Karen.
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6 years, I guess congratulati...
>final phrase

How can they ruin this more than it already is?
this is shameful on many levels, In the end this is my only thought of this and part of the franchise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJTAqnmHt0
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>>2483107
What's wrong with what they said?
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>>2483115
Nothing new. Just the acknowledgement that the player is the producer. The games were never going to change that so getting upset about this is no different than crying at milk that was spilled years ago.
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>>2483317
Wew. I can't believe people are still mad about that.
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>>2483317
>>2483319
It makes me angry because it's stupid.
other anniversary greetings are not so specific and focus on all the fandom, here it seems that the player is not recognized, if not the stupid concept of producer that people believe is a good thing and is more sad when in certain angles in Gekijou , it is perfectly seen that the producer is takeuchi.
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>>2483325
What are you talking about? Scamco has always treated its fanbase as producers. They actually call them producers during events.

It's also been shown that TakeP isn't in charge of all the CGs (eg. Mayu), while you are.
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I actually have no clue about what they're saying. I bet she's actually supposed to have a dick or something...
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This author has a bunch of books of what seems to be Sachiko getting sexually harassed by other idols.
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Maybe some wacky plot about pheromones or aphrodisiacs.
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>>2483740
Well, now it's more stupid, this franchise looks more like a collection of pets than characters trying to be Idols.

I speak of Gekijou, actually CG anime does a good job (it was a big agency, it is normal to see several producers) but in some moments, you can see the producer of Gekijou has the same Takeuchi hairstyle. In if I do not see it as a bad character, it's just the fandom that messed things up and I create a really annoying fanon that they treat like canon.
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>>2484424
Bullying kong is always a feast.
But wtf happened to her anyway?
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>>2485191
idolmaster fanbase is mostly waifufags, you should really not be surprised about this.
this thread is for the little yuri it has, but it's a big franchise so it has enough for a thread.
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Looks like our mountain climbing idol got voiced.
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>>2485191
Such was Takeuchi's influence that other producers sought to mimic his hairstyle.
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>>2487618
Wonderful.
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There's too little Jougasaki sisters yuri to be honest.
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>>2488969
I like the idea of Miria having a crush on Mika as she grows older, and Mika getting all flustered about it. Reminds me of Vivio x Hayate.
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>>2488983
>>Miria having a crush on Mika
>not Mika on Rika
>negating incest
>>as she grows older
>negating notable age gap

Anon you've gotta fix that taste.
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>>2487760
Oops, let's try that again.
Anyhow, late on this info, but this is pretty cool.
Makes me excited for any other potential voices that may be to come.
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>>2490711
Rika is a LOT more slutty than her big sis.
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>>2491420
Yeah, Mika is kind of a dork, at least. Meanwhile, Rika is doing her best to be even sluttier than her big sis.
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>>2491931
I'd read a doujin about Rika teaching her sister about sex.
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>>2490711
I'm not into incest anon, but as long it's not NTR maybe I'll take a chance.
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More like Yesyes.
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>>2492123
Don't bully Nono like that, please.
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>>2491931
Link for that??
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Chieri is lesbian jailbait.
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>>2491931
>Passion idols
>sluts
Hardly surprising.
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>nobody will translate Usoneko's doujin
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>>2495263
There are translation, but it's in bad quality thanks to FB quality compressing mechanic.
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>>2496463
First of all, where.

Second of all, I was talking more about doujin in plural. I know two of the AnKira ones were translated, but I believe Usoneko has done quite a lot of them.
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>>2496574
i forgot the link, but you want to search usoneko's name or hashtag there on Facebook and you might find one.
But from what i recall, the page only translate selective few, and it's all potato quality because facebook.
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>>2497921
Huh, there's some good stuff in here.
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>>2485191
>this franchise looks more like a collection of pets than characters trying to be Idols
Considering how the room mechanic in Deresute works, you're actually right on this part.
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>>2501089
Unfortunately I can't abuse my pet to death here, like what pet simulator should be. And it's self insert bullshit is so sparse and not satisfying at all.
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>>2501602
I'm glad there are pet simulators out there that don't condone animal cruelty.
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the more I see Side M the more angry I am of how CG turned out.
The producer is a partner, not the damn center of the universe, even OG towards a good job, I seriously wonder if the hatred of Mishiro was because (let's be honest) a better character than Takeuchi. I also resented some lack of personality in the girls, I could even swear that two of them I can describe as the fat girl and the twin tails, I do not remember any more of them.

It's kind of funny how the OVA sank a ship and people think it backs it up.
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>>2503815
>There are yurifags who unironically like a series best known for popularizing the male self-insert and yuribait concepts
I don't feel bad for any of you, not one damn bit. Idolmaster just doesn't like yuri at all.
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>>2503836
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
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>>2503836
My problem is that in Side-M the characters and situations feel more genuine, the producer is more a partner almost equally and in the end all the members of the agency are like a big family.
These are elements that CG did not have, since the producer was put in situations where he really was not necessary, the analogy is that the producer is the carriage that leads to the Idols, but finally the fandom interpreted it the other way around and that It is something stupid.
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>>2503880
To make something out of the pairings you like. The potential for yuri exists, we would have these threads if it didn't. But at the same time Scamco is too scared to make anything official so the fans just go the extra mile instead. I've always just been taking in what I do like while ignoring what I don't with this series. I'm a bit scared to post my own fanworks though. I might do it if I've built up more confidence, but that's not going to be anytime soon.
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>>2503918
That's not much of a surprise really. CG has always had the weakest characters. It's got over a hundred of them nearly all of them are defined by a single trait. Only the popular ones get fleshed out more and even then it's lacking compared to Side-M or 765. But on the flip side that quantity over quality approach is what made them the most popular to begin with.
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>>2503815
I don't know whether Mishiro was a better character, but it was what she did that made her hated more than her personality ever could. I wouldn't be surprised if someone paid her to sabotage 346 Pro or something.

In any case, one can interpret SideM to be the result of learning lessons from CG, which can't be a bad thing.
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>>2503815
How the fuck is Mishiro a better character than the other dude when she's quite literally the "evil corporate man" cliche incarnate.

At least the Producer had that sad backstory thing going on for him. We see his insecurities play an explicit part in the way he interacts with the idols. It's never truly shown what had happened (it's only told from a third party and without much detail), but it justifies his character.

Meanwhile Mishiro quite literally comes in, declares that everything is now going to work differently and refuses any input on the matter. We know nothing of her, and we don't need to. She's just a walking plot device.
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>>2503836
>Idolmaster just doesn't like yuri at all.
I'll admit it doesn't like it all that much, but I'm glad you're wrong about it not liking it at all.
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>>2504278
Also >>2380007

For something based on a game with a male MC, Im@s actually teases plenty of yuri ships, and fans have picked up on it and made lots of fanart and doujins. You just need to ignore all the het fans and focus on what the yuri ones are doing.
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>>2504328
Honestly, I've found deresute pretty interesting in that regard, given how the game juggles the duality of catering to people who enjoy the self insert aspect, and catering to the people who like the interaction between the girls (and who are probably coming over from Love Live SIF).

Things like the raising of affection stats and the one on one commu's between producer and idol are very dating sim-esque. But in the event and story commus, the Producer's presence is almost entirely nonexistent and we just get to enjoy the girls' relationships with each other.

Oh, and the mangas tend to occasionally have their moments, too.
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>>2504328
If Idolmaster has plenty of yurifags then how come CG still went with male Producer-san and SideM went full fujo mode? It's like you Imas yurifags love to get treated like shit while everyone else gets what they want. I'm glad you're wrong about Idolmaster liking yuri at all.
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>>2504403
You keep saying things, but all I hear is "WAHH WAHH I'M A STUPID TROLL WAHH".
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>>2504403
>It's like you Imas yurifags love to get treated like shit while everyone else gets what they want
>it's more profitable to pander to hetfags and fujos than a comparatively niche audience
So close to answering your own question.
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>>2504403
Im@s has plenty of yurifags (which is why it has so much yuri fanart, seriously, just check out any 'booru or pixiv). It just has many more het fans, and the fujoshi market is huge.

Not sure why this is so hard for you to grasp.
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>>2504403
Sup anti-Idolfag. Have you finally gotten spthat stick out of your ass?
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>>2503815
I haven't seen the OVA, and from the UzuRin pic related on that post, I don't know if I want to see it. Does it sink the UzuRin ship? That's all I care about in CG Well, I like KRRAnzu, too, but I'm pretty sure that one's safe.
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>>2504403
You keep posting the same argument basing itself on the weird assumption that a fanbase is in some sort of intimate, love-it-or-hate-it relationship with the author, and as if every single thing they make is somehow inseparable from one another.
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>>2504672
no, Rin x Producer, but people interpret the sinking as Shiptease, although it is not a good chapter either way.

Side-m is not even a Fujofest as some think, it's a nice anime with nice characters, it really feels something like OG.
But the importance that Takeuchi receives in CG is something sickly, people take a joke all at once and take it too far, you can not do a search of images without appearing its ugly face.
I'm not saying that Im @ s does not have Yuri, in OG things were normal and it made me want some couples, in CG it was not very different, but I had the worst producer and the worst drama they could get (what the hell was the episode of Mio and why Takeushi is important there)
hell, the Yuri couples of CG I knew them by the Anime, the real problem is Takeushi as a concept of producer, Mishiro is better because at least he is a definite character and not something vaguely defined as the producer in CG.
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>>2505010
It's just anime, anon.
Chill out.
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>>2505010
Yuri isn't the all-time prevailing genre? I can't believe it. I'm impressed that you're the only sperglord in this thread we've had to deal with.
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>>2505010
You've been trolling this thread for too long, Anon. You should really get out more.
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>all of these nee-sans not posting best couple
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>>2506337
I swear...
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Who should be thr pants-wearer in the relationship?
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>>2506429
Either.
I personally prefer to wear my kilt (because I can't stand anything above 70F and shorts don't help), but if it's cold then everyone should be wearing pants. Though, if the skirt doesn't go to the knee at least, then it's no good, in my opinion.
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>>2506429
I think despite her age, Anya definitely does, but I'm with >>2506431 in that I'm cool with either taking that position. Whether the pants we're talking about are literal, figurative, or whatever.
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>>2506431
Nice kiltblog.
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>>2506464
I will maintain that the kilt is the superior article of clothing. So-as-to-say, Knee length skirts are the superior article of clothing in general. I don't understand how girls can stand having on anything shorter.
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>>2507287
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C E A S E
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>>2507748
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>>2508333
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>>2509013
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>>2509013
>>2509014
Yuri on ice...
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>>2509080
Now literally and in name
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>>2509013
>>2509014
>all Russians instinctively know how to ice skate, even half-bloods.

Also, while they're already great, Ranko makes these pics 200% better.
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>>2510221
All Russians also drink vodka from a very young age.




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