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Nothing much new to report.

No cam rip for Reflection or anything yet.

According to a few people on twitter Nanoha and Fate had a pretty gay hand holding scene.
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Hey, Ron. If you happen to see this.
Could you check your e-mail.
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What went wrong that that we get like one good scene of the flagship couple interacting?

I should be hearing about all the gay handholding and bedside conversations and shit that was happening between laser fights. Not, "oh they held hands once in a feature length movie"

To say nothing of them just deciding to freestyle whatever the hell they wanted to do with Vivio and Einhart.
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>>2393972
I don't think it's that big of a deal. It just means they have more time to focus on the plot and story. So long as they affirm Nanoha and Fate still love each other, even if it's just one scene, I'm happy with it.

Though, I won't lie. I would sell my soul to see something like pic related happen in the anime.
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Nanoha and Fate have an amazing dynamic between them. No other couple even comes close.
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>>2394014
Young adult NanoFate is great.
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>>2393972
People say the movie is 90% action, and most of the screen time focuses on the new characters, it was expected that little screentime would go to Nanoha and Fate being gay this time around.
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>>2393993
>So long as they affirm Nanoha and Fate still love each other
I don't think that is what matters/is needed, because they are shown to live together in three successive installments that span 16 years.

But I guess seeing them act like in As TV would be nice, I really enjoyed that "ahaha girsl, you don't know it yet but we do!" element of it. Not yuri yet, but you are watching something that you know will end up being huge love - wonderful.
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>>2394082
>I don't think that is what matters/is needed, because they are shown to live together in three successive installments that span 16 years.
In the main continuity they're married are have a daughter, but not all things necessarily have to be the same in the movie-continuity, most likely that specific timeline won't even get that far into the future.

That said, we know for certain that NanoFate's love transcends continuities, pic related, and the first two movies are arguably gayer than in the first 2 anime.
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>>2394082
>span 16 years
It never really dawned on me that Nanoha and Fate have been together for that long.

It's actually really nice to see a couple who's so committed and devoted to each other.
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>>2394079
>people complain about not enough Nanoha and Fate
>give them a movie where new characters outshine them completely

A job well done.
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>>2394093
>give them a movie where new characters outshine them completely
Outside the movies, that has been the trend since 2007.
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>>2394088
Ah, now I realised that I gave it as the total time since S1/S2, but they probably only live together in the hardcore way the last six since StrikerS.
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>People say the movie is 90% action, and most of the screen time focuses on the new characters, it was expected that little screentime would go to Nanoha and Fate being gay this time around.

Sasuga Seven Arcs. I can't wait for the Vivid Strike sequel where Els Tasmin teaches Miuras second cousin and her assorted friends strike arts. Or if that seems like too much of stickng to a theme they might be school idols or whatever instead. To appease long time fans of the series Nove has a five second cameo at the end of the sixth episode (one of the new characters is seen drawing a picture of her on a post it note).

Even after years of being on mr Tsuzukis wild ride I still look forward to whatever new stuff they happen to do but I really wish they'd actually focus on something. Between Nanoha and Dog Days it seems like the studio has this baffling inability to not stuff every new installment they do with pointless new characters and random bullshit. The movie will probably be at very least enjoyable but why can't a Nanoha movie be about Nanoha instead of some random yahoos from spinoff number fifty billion.
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>>2393957
I'm pretty sure Ron is gone. I think he got tired of every /a/ thread getting spammed to death since there's apparently no form of moderation that can stop one asshole equipped with a phone.
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>>2394195
He should stick to /u/. Our threads are refined and pleasant, almost always.
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>>2394195
There is a way but I doubt Hiroshima wants to cut off all the sweet ad revenue from the phoneposters.
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>>2394082
>I really enjoyed that "ahaha girsl, you don't know it yet but we do!" element of it.
We all enjoyed that but to be fair, outside of handholding fanservice, the movies have not really deliver in that front so I wasn't really expecting then to include it in this movie.
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>>2394216
It's not as if it's particularly difficult to ad block on mobile either these days.
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>>2394277
Kuroko from Murcielago.
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>>2394279
Also her yakuza GF. Nanoha is guaranteed top 3 at least.
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>>2394195
It improved quite in last month or so, Bitch-kun now gets deleted consistently so threads are passable as long as people make effort to report and don't react to his posting (which amplifies the spam).
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>>2394277
I am pretty sure the only single lesbian in the franchise is Vivio.
All the badass lesbians are married.
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>>2394299
Miura isn't married either!
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>>2394195
He isn't gone. He's just doing his own thing.
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>>2394294
Please tell me this is a full thing and it's been scanned.
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>>2394331
Not out yet
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Translation for chapter 82 of vivid out:
https://vividtranslations.com/2017/08/05/nanoha-vivid-82-im-shaking/
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>>2397398
Thanks for the heads up
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>>2398068
So, does Hayate screw all of her female servants?
I'm sure she does.
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>>2398862
Of course. But Signum is her main wife.
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>>2398862
Do you really have to ask? Of course she does.
Being surrounded by those two and Shamal, all of whom would gladly have sex with her, are why she grew up to be such a horny pervert.
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>>2398891
If I were surrounded by my own harem of cute knights you can bet I'd become a pervert.
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>>2398891
Signum doesn't even like being groped, so I doubt this is really true. Shamal, Vita, Rein II is differen question though - who knows. Shamal is (or lets say was) probably the easiest route.
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>>2399118
>Signum doesn't even like being groped
prove it
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>>2399118
>Signum doesn't even like being groped, so I doubt this is really true.
But Signum is easily the best of the group. What a shame for Hayate.
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>>2399162
She is quite literally a sex offender.
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>>2399168
What do you call someone who takes advantage of a position of power to regularly sekuhara her underlings?
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>>2394331
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=64217416
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>>2399122
It is said in the sound stages (As #1).
Signum will take it because she would do anything for Hayate but Hayate says to Vita or Shamal that she can tell she hates it. Something in the likes of "she closes her eyes and says 'please suit yourself' but looks like she wants to die". So Hayate doesn't ask her and instead touches her when she is alseep.
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>>2397398
I like how Micaiah nonchallantly fixes Nove's hair.
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What could it mean?
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>>2400377
Isn't that just a spoilered chapter title?
At first I had a bad feeling the manga was ending though.
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>>2400487
It probably is
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I don't want it to end. I know we shit a lot on vivid and that this is the perfect moment to end it but I don't want it to end.
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>>2400609
It's Fuuka's time to shine.
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Not sure if this is the right thread but I'm trying to look for a Nanoha doujin where Fate got rejected by Vivio when she invited her to take a bath with her 'cause she's already grown up or something. I only remember bits and pieces of the scene and I really don't remember the title. If someone could tell me the title, I'd really appreciate it!
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>>2401003
It's from Meki Meki, you could look for that. I don't recall the name and don't have it on me to look, sorry.
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>>2394291
This, we actually got some kind of pocket mod.
That said, I prefer the comfy pace of these threads more.
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Is it normal to get together with your sisters and try to pair up two middle-school kids?
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>>2401530
It should be.
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>Vivid LIFE - Volume 1 (English) [ron]
http://www.mediafire.com/?3e5vd9245j0den1

This is a set of funny side stories that take place during the two month timeskip between the mock battle and the first tournament.
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>>2402220
Page 52 has an untranslated panel. Third panel on the left column.
And one on page 64, second panel on the left column.
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Why couldn't this be the main continuity instead of vivid/force?
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>>2402235
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>>2402220
>>2402235
>>2402348
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>>2402348
>tl note: iatadakimasu means itadakimasu
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>>2402350
>tl note: いただきます means itadakimasu
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>>2402220
Thanks, Ron.
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>>2402272
Vivid and Vivid Life are in the main continuity.
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>>2402411
This SM chapter was in some Nanoha anthology before though, I think.
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>>2402272
So Fate is canonically into BDSM.
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>>2402418
Even if she wasn't like that from the start, most couples try different kinds of kinky things after a long time together, so given NanoFate's circumstances maybe they did something like that at least once. Spice in their sexual life is important to keep a healthy relationship .
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>those eyes
On second thought, Nanoha deserved whatever Fate did when she returned.
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Haha, Ron improved that double entendre line quite a bit from the old version.
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>>2402524
Eh, forgot the picture.
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That comfy Nanohand on Feito's head, awwww.
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>>2402555
Looking at this, they are really a close couple that have been together for a long time. They didn't immediately go for sex when the kid left them alone.
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>>2402782
Why are they outside in their underwear?
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>>2402809
They probably went to one of those nudist beach planets.
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[Mekimeki Oukoku] Bara no Tsubomi no Okurimono Extra
https://my.mixtape.moe/whlfle.zip

Anons in the Translation Thread told me to post it here and it will make its way to wherever neccessary.
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>>2407899
Thank you friend
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>>2407899
Thank you! It's great to have the conclusion to Bara no Tsubomi, I can upload it later to NanoFate.us and link the prequel in the post.

Should I credit /u/ Scanlations, Anonymous from /u/, or something else?
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>>2407933
Since when have you ever cared about accurate credits? Just do what you normally do and post whatever false assumption you want.
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>>2407933
As far as I know, the raw and the script were posted in one of the previous NanoFate threads. The anon who posted it said someone from NanoFate had translated and then abandonded the thing. I just cleaned and typeset it, making minor corrections to the script. I don't care about crediting me, but I can't speak for someone else.
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>>2407946
Just posted it, thanks again for the great job.
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>>2408107
My pleasure. I hope people enjoy it.
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>>2407899
Thanks both you and the previous anon.
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Les bump
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Did the little comic that Fuji drew for the Nanoha movie ever get scanned? It's just Fuuka and Rinne dressing up as all the girls.
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100 soon.
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>>2412355
Is that from it or form an older chapter?
I want more Einhart, although I don't like where they have been moving her these past 2 years.
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>>2412497
It's what Fuji was showing off on Twitter, so I assume it's from 100.
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>>2412497
Yes. Looks like Vivid will continue and the next arc will be about Einhart taking over the R-15. Spoiler ahead
Apparently, she is slowly forgeting Claus' memories. This has been happening since the end of spaceChina arc.
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>>2412513
Yumina is slowly brainwashing Einhart so she forgets her love for Vivio.
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>>2412513
Sounds interesting. This is probably how she becomes all cocky in VS.
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>>2412513
She doesn't need his memories because she's making her own now. Time to stop living in Claus' shadow.
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>>2412513
Awww, that sucks. I liked that, they are really ruining the character.
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>>2412532
Also forget Vivio and the whole purpose of his character.
There are many ways a character can evolve, leave his past and move on, but this is not a good way, this is simply sweeping under the carpet and going for Plan B.
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Is a camrip of reflection out yet?
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>>2412513
Didn't they say that was going to happen early in vivid? That the inherited memories would disappear as she gets older?
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>>2412702
IIRC they said "it usually fades" but IIRC it was meant in a way that Einhart is already out of the ordinary with having them so strong at age 12. And it could just have been as "you will lose your powers permanently" in shounen manga.

That part of episode2 was anime original BTW. And it was quite good, whenever the screenplay diverged fromt he manga and tried soemthing of its own like ep2 or ep12, somehow it felt quit well done.
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>>2412706
I didn't remember that scene being anime original, but if that's the case it isn't canon.
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>>2412532
You're right in a way.
>Let's do our best together, Yumina-san
>Yeah!

>I first realized it after the last trial in Lufeng
>I was having trouble recalling Claus' memories which I should haven been able to remember as "the memories of my past self"

>"The memories of Claus inside me" is slowly
>but evidently fading away
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>>2412969
>I know why it is

>As I spend more time with someone

>As I came to acquire more peoples who are important to me

>The more I live my life as "Einhart Stratos" to the fullest, the more the past memories of "Claus G.S Invalt" fade away
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>>2412969
>>2412970
Seeing how important Yumina became to Ein, Vivio lost that fight, right?
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Chinese scan for chapter 100 of Vivid out:
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5293430735
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>>2413093
Cute family moments. Fate is the most beautiful mother, Vivio is so lucky.
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>>2412978
I kinda feel sorry for viviofags, Vivio's connection with Einhart through Claus and Olive's love was their last hope but now Yumina won so hard she is literally deleting Olive from Einhart's memory.
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>>2413371
I just wonder at what point this is deliberate or just plain bad writing.
It is assumed that Vivio and Ein were the focus or at least important, now it seems that was nothing more than a plot element to use and throw.
Vivid already feels like a stupid and long introduction to Strike.
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>>2412969
>>2412970
It would be sad if they just ditch Einhart memories of Claus. That was one hell of a connection to ancient Belka.
It would feel the author has no idea how to continua a storyline based on that, and has decided to follow on more retarded tournaments.
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>>2414589
She wrote it all down with Kuro. And she executed a "new" move that we saw Claus used way back in the flashback arc right in this chapter so it's not like all is lost.
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>>2415034
Of course it's not all lost, she hasn't yet lost all her memories.
However, an integral part of her character was that she held the memories of an ancient Belkan, but that she also learned she had to be her own person.
If she loses those ancient memories, then part of the identity of her character is completely gone, since her connection to the ancient Belkans would be gone.
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>>2415034
Hmm, did you guys notice the horizon above the city? Finally reminder that this is not Japan, together with at least somewhat sci-fi architecture.
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>>2413371
Maybe Yumina is last boss.
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Having finished A's for the second time, my only problem was that they just skip over their teen years and move straight to adulthood with StrikerS.

Imagine if we got that instead of StrikerS, and StrikerS instead of Vivid and Force.
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>>2417260
It's pretty obvious that they were phasing out the old characters as their VAs were getting older and closer to retirement.

I kinda hate that about anime. As much as I love Nanoha and Fate's VAs, I would have preferred them switching VAs if it meant they could keep telling stories about them.
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>>2417443
But that's silly, Goku is still voiced by Nozawa.
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>>2413371
>Yumina won so hard
Nah, not really.
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>>2417443
Yukarin is only 17 years old.
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>>2417443
Yukarin and Nana were instrumental in making Nanoha and Fate who they are today, you can not replace them.
Yukarin and Nana are Nanoha and Fate
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>>2417820
I don't want to replace them, I just want more NanoFate instead of this endless parade of new characters i dont give a shit about. But that'll never happen, precisely because of that attitude.

Maybe we'll get a manga about their teenage years someday, that's really all I can hope for at this point.
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>>2418000
The worst part of Vivid is that you have a bunch of interesting characters and also the set up for a real plot like in the original series, but then it just becomes a generic tournament shonen featuring a bunch of lesbians, but not as fun to read as Saki. There was pretty much no reason to introduce the Belkan memory shit, and certainly no reason to introduce so many characters with that shtick only to do nothing with them.
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>>2418000
>I don't want to replace them
>I would have preferred them switching VAs
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>>2418019
Strike works much better why put Vivid as close to a real plot.
The way they surrendered to Ein and Vivio is really depressing, so why bother in the first place?
I will have to finish reading all those Hayate x Vivio fics.
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https://vividtranslations.com/2017/08/31/time-to-smile-vivid-strike-doujin/
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>>2418020
It's the lesser of two evils in my eyes, that's what I'm saying. Given the choice between no more NanoFate and having to pick new VAs, I would reluctantly pick the latter.
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>>2417443
>It's pretty obvious that they were phasing out the old characters as their VAs were getting older and closer to retirement.
Dude, Vivio's VA (Kaori Mizuhashi) is 43, and Einhart's (Mamiko Noto) is 37.
It's not as if their VAs are particularly young.
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>>2418176
I'm guessing it was actually more for personal reasons. Masako Nozawa is 80, and she still goes to the studio to voice Goku every week, and at least once a year does 800 battle grunts for a video game with Goku, Gohan, Goten, Bardock, Tullece, and Black.
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>>2418182
That's my point, ages aren't the issue here, otherwise Vvio and Einhart would have got younger VAs.
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The real reason is probably because Yukarin said fuck you to King Records. Nanoha had like less then 10 speakings lines in Vivid total and it took 10 years for another Nanoha focused anime project to happen after StrikerS.
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>>2418185
Yukarin leaving KR is a very recent event, Nanoha's screentime reflects her role in the vivid manga and movie 1st happened 3 years after strikers.
You are an idiot.
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>>2418176
Well not age then, but it's probably still VA-related. I can't think of any other sane reason for them to do what they've been doing.
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>>2418191
Do what? Nanoha and Fate aren't very prominent in Vivid, and no one gives a flying fuck about Force.

For more Nanoha and Fate you get the movies.
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>>2418191
Have you considered the possibility of Tsuzuki wanting to write other stuff?
Because he has being doing that since strikers.
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>>2418192
That's my point, they made Vivid and Force instead of making more series with Nanoha and Fate. If they're that invested in keeping the franchise going I don't know why they wouldn't focus on the original cast more instead of jumping ahead so many years and shifting to new cast members.

>>2418199
I guess it could be just that.
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>>2418027
Thanks, I didn't even know they translated the first one.
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>>2418000
New stories have nothing to do with VAs and everything to do with the people who write not doing it.

Nana's voice is not rusty in anyway even, she has perfomed 15 concerts this year, she can damn well sound like a pre-adolescent Fate
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>>2418199
That is more or less it, if anything.
That said, he will likely return to it a some point...it's not like anything else that he has done since has been doing gangbusters.
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>>2422034
Second part.
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>>2422034
Fate found a sheet and tried acting like a ghost, looks like.
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Something about a Reflection comic.
twitter.com/fujimatakuya/status/906079686991732738
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>>2423670
>Fujima is the artist
Huh? Does that mean Vivid will finish in November?
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>>2423682
Looks like Vivid will be ending.
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>>2423670
If it's ending do you think they're actually going to end it with Vivio entering the ring and Rinne being there?
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Sad.
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>>2423746
Einhart's parents will appear. Ha, as if.
It looks like the Vivids and the Belkan descendants will be phased out without ever getting to do anything more serious.
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>>2423685
If it ends it seems to be official, they surrendered completely.
All these years for nothing.
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>>2423901
I'm pretty sure Fuji just wanted to occasionally draw Vivio and co naked for like 9 years. I think he accomplished his mission
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Fujima confirmed on twitter and his blog that Vivid will end in October so there are only 2 chapters left now. He admitted that even he didn't know what's the ending is like yet.
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>>2423921
What the fuck? He should know how it ends. Even I know how it ends. It ends with Ein winning the U15 tournament and Vivio beating the shit out of Rinne.
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>>2423914
When I look back, it's really depressing.

>>2423928
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRuJObnCXxw
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Atleast you had fun.
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>>2423901
Well it had to end sooner or later, although I don't think it exactly built up something before that. And they started to screw with thinks around vol 12 and 13, sadly.

I'm kind of miffed that it is being canned in favor of a manga that might just be glorified merchandise item for the movie. I really want to hope it is actually going to be a separate standalone story, but after the Movie 1st Comics and the Chronicles, I just expect it to be a retelling or some shit like that nobody needed.
Hopefully I'm wrong, but Force got canned and we got Chronicles as "compensation", Vivid might just get canned for a a remake paper-filler manga too. Bleh, I was not fan of Innocent(S) but I think I would take more of that too, instead of more remakes.
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Fuck Vivio and Fuck Ein.
Time to give the new stsr of the show a manga.
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>>2423950
>a manga that might just be glorified merchandise item for the movie
The entire movie is nothing but an excuse for new merchandise. The saddest part is how cheaply they've gone about making it. They couldn't even be bothered to design anything new. They just stuck Force weapons on lolis (since there's no merch of that) and mixed in the GoD characters (who have little merch and are mostly recolors). Then they came up with the cheapest character designs possible and used tons of CGshit to keep production costs low.

Reflection is nothing but a cheap toy commercial. As someone who's been desperate for Vivid to end for years so that they could move on to something new, I'm disgusted by this announcement. I would've preferred more Vivid. Now I doubt we'll get a proper new series for another two or three years until after they're done milking Detonation for cash.
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>>2423964
Actually, this little stuff that made us enemies to the death aside, I'm pretty sure that that's what they had in mind, when Vivid Strike appeared and we saw the sidelining treatment of Einhart particularly, but Vivio too. The breaking up of the literal cover ship fits into it perfectly. So yeah, I think they wanted to push Fuuka and Rinne and get rid of the other stuff.

I would take Fuuka and Rinne over the remakes/AU shit/retelling stuff, too, although they are not my first choice, amongst other things due to the not very well-handled way they did the story in VS.

But I don't see signs they were really confident in pushing Fuuka and Rinne as replacements either. No sequel in sight, feels like they are completely out of it and don't know what to do anymore, cutting all the running stuff down. They might abandon Strike too soon, and just do the quick-milking of the movie. Who knows if there will even be any actual sequels anymore.
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>>2423978
After new Movies comics they can just start Vivid Strike manga set after anime ended. Then make another anime about it.

For me they should let it die and make completely new continuity as new Nanoha canon starting from Nanoha, Fate and Hayate loli age like they do with western comics when they don't know what to do with characters anymore. No in universe movies, no AU, just something new using the loved characters in maybe a bit different starting roles, like Fate befriending Nanoha.
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>>2424039
Bleh, just no reboots please. If you don't know what else to do besides fucking "reboot", it is time to drop adding new crap (because that is what you will produce at that point) and leave the works at to that point stand as the finished canon.

There is no fucking rule that says new material needs to be made all the time, that's just money grabbing. Good stuff needs no perpetual additions, those in fact just dilute, clog and trash over the story. You just drive the good old parts into the ground that way, instead of helping to keep them alive.
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>>2424042
But sadly after failed Force project where everything aside of new designs wasa complete disaster, Nanoha proper continuity can't really develop.

It's clear they don't want to use the Force timeline and they would gladly just make new stuff after Vivid to avoid it, but they always be forced to do it before Force timeline, they shoot themselves in the foot making two 4th season manga.

If they want to make something new in the same canon they should just make new project set after Force and just resolve Force drama in few flashbacks telling us what happened in between and make it forgotten, but what is obvious now it's easier to milk the old stuff than trying something new.

DogDays too suffered like Nanoha, was comfy and fun before Tsuzuki destroyed it with 3rd season boredom with new idiotic characters spam.
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>>2424046
The correct way out of this is to return to Force, finish it, alter/remake it, replace it, but don't be fucking afraid of addressing it.

When next thing after a reboot is unpopular, will there be another reboot?
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>>2423746
It should end with Haru-nyan going for her morning jog.
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>>2394026
That's 12quarters.net Just rechecked it and while he's added a few more, he signed the page closed. May want to snag whatever images you want before it goes offline.
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>>2423950
>Vivid might just get canned
Vivid didn't get canned. Vivid ended. We have been talking about how vivio's story was ending for a while now, this shouldn't be a surprise.
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>>2424046
>DogDays too suffered like Nanoha, was comfy and fun before Tsuzuki destroyed it with 3rd season boredom with new idiotic characters spam.

At one point it could be argued that they intended to focus on Dog Days instead of Nanoha (that's why they continued in two manga) but things did not happen and that's why we saw an Anime Vivid and then Strike. It's like they did not really understand that made Nanoha work as a franchise in the first place.

Take things more seriously with Vivid Strike, a real villain or just restart Force, all this in Anime format.
It seems like a long-lasting Manga, does not work very well with Nanoha.
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>>2424081
With the sort of manga it was (see volume 13, and most of the three china volumes), it could just as well continue as it was concluded by that forced (in the sense that it doesn't make much sense) fight with Nanoha.

The decision to conclude it here was probably more or less arbitrary and from the top.
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>>2424095
>a real villain or just restart Force, all this in Anime format.
Force in anime format is a very idiotic idea seeing the MC.
They don't need to restart it in manga form cause basically it was on the final businessman boss battle anyway. Just show it in flashback how that ended and what happened with characters.

But then who would want to read Nanoha manga or have anime about 30 years old Nanona, Fate and Hayate having serious villain enemy and saving universe?
That's not an option either for japanese fanbase.

The only thing which sells clearly is Nanoha, Fate and Hayate being lolis or teenagers.
More new character spam of what Tsuzuki did with Vivid and Force instead of trying to develop existing cast even more is just shallow bad writing.
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>>2424111
At present this seems no more than an excuse to exploit people's nostalgia for a real attempt to create a story. Why recycle PSP game elements?

Precure, Jojo and Pokesupe have done an excellent job of having different characters, some are hated and others loved, but it is better than trying to abuse the same elements and people over and over again.
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>>2424106
Sure, but that doesn't mean it got canned. Unlike something like force or bleach this was clearly given the space to end naturally. I think some anon mentioned it in a previous thread, most plotpoints in vivid were already wrapped up, all it is left for it to do is set up vivid strike.
Of course it is disappointing we didn't get a more substantial belka plot and it sucks they sank the main ship but I think vivid accomplished most of what it set itself to deliver. Vivid was never meant to be a serious continuation. Vivid is a dumb sports SOL set in the nanohaverse with the gimmick of two MCs connected through a past life. From it we got a bunch of new cute girls fighting in tournaments, we got Nanoha and Fate being dotting parents and we got to see all there was to see about the previous life of the MCs. I think it had a good run.

>>2424120
I don't know about precure but jojo and pokemon could pull it off because they were structured from the very beginning to be like that. Nanoha, on the other hand, could never be like that. From its conception to it success it was all spur of the moment. there was never a long term plan.
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>>2424164
Precure is also a case of planned "no sagas" and have generated good sequels (with two powerful exceptions). The same can be said of Yugioh and Digimon, they have new characters and adventures, also lets you throw in the face of people a Crossover at some point.

Fuuka and Rinne are (we're honest) a good way to continue with the franchise, there are many elements that can be explored, since they could not follow correctly with Vivi and Ein.

I would really like a Remake of Force, but with Lily and Isis as main characters (we omit Thoma) and improve many more things, but this would be the basics.
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>>2424175
Replace Thoma with Fuuka. Lily is revealed to be Rinne.

It actually wouldn't be the worst way to bridge from the sports setting that we've had enough off into serious FuRin stuff. And Isis would be their own new friend outside of the Vivid gang.
I still want Vivids doing something though. Hayate promised to look into the mystery of the mas reincarnations, but she never returned with results.
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>>2424207
>the little floating device in girls locker room
Did Thoma sent it to snap bottomless Lilly? Nice to see he misses seeing that.

I would keep Lilly's BJ though, Rinne's isn't particularly memorable.
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>>2424175
I still think it is not the same, those series are still better build to suit that kind of structure. Precure may have not been planed but it compensates by switching the people working on it and delivering a completely different series each time. Yugioh and Digimon are also like this and , like pokemon, they are made to go alongside with the games so naturally they will fit this kind of narrative better. Also I think it is worth mentioning that, with the exception of one season each, both Yugioh and Digimon have failed to provide good sequels.
I don't think fixing force is worth the effort. There is so much shit wrong with it that by the time you are finished you may as well be doing something completely new but I do agree Fuuka and Rinne are the way to go. Making these two the main focus could be the breath of fresh air this franchise needs.
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>>2423670
Seems like it will just be a collection of side stories like the StrikerS comics.

https://web-ace.jp/compace/notice/53/
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>>2424222
Those are actually good though, so this is a relief.
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On the other hand, Takuya's Vivid Strike mini-mangos for BDs didn't really anything noteworthy to the story as opposed to StrikerS Comics, so who knows.
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>>2424217
People are simply mowed by the nostalgia in these franchises, the best series, are the sequels, such as Tamers, Saver, Xros war, 5d's and Ark-V. Although Nanoha already has those complaints with Vidid, that theme is not foreign.
The comparison with Jojo and Pokesupe, is more accurate to a series like Nanoha, since each new saga is a sequel of the previous and exist connection, but with new protagonists and apparitions of old personages (sometimes).

FuuRi is the future, Strike really was more interesting than Vivid and his attempts to fill space with tournaments and characters, as far as this is the list that many series of action take when they no longer have ideas, Vivid did almost at the beginning (that does not It's something good)
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>>2424209
Lilly's BJ is super boring. It is just a more plain version of Nanoha's BJ.
Rinne's BJ is cool.

>>2424210
Fuuka with pants is something I can get behind.
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I've never seen a franchise that is so strangely averse to the elements that made it successful in the first place.

>>2424217
I haven't seen enough Digimon to weigh in on that, but one thing I can say about Yu-Gi-Oh is that it always stuck to the elements that made the original popular in the first place,and is recognizably the same franchise throughout.
The stories haven't always been good, but they've tried to stay true to what fans want.

Vivid has discarded most of what people loved about the original anime, and is really only similar on a surface level.
I don't think that it can really use the sudden success of Nanoha as an excuse either, as the series had already been a successful franchise for a few years by that point, and plenty of long running franchises that only had a vague of what they were doing have gone on to thrive.

The original Digimon anime was only supposed to be 13 episodes, but they're unexpected popularity led them to expand it with no idea what they were doing, and they turned out a pretty strong product.
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>>2424241
I like Lily's BJ more than Nanoha's. Simplicity is good, and the color combination is better (sorry Gundam nuts) In favour of NanoBJ speaks the fact that it is much less revealing, full-body robes rule.
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Do you think they knew the manga would be ending after 2 chapters?
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As much as I liked Strike and Fuuka as MC. That story is already wrapped up. Fuuka's objective was to return Rinne to whom she really was and she achieved that.
Trying to keep them as mains would end up with the same problem that ailed Vivid - i.e. retarded tournaments.
Fuuka and Rinne should just be side characters in any possible sequel.
I would say the same about Einhart. Without her memories and her connection to ancient Belka, she has no much value as MC. She could steal Vivio's focus as MC on Vivid precisely because her connection to Claus was developed. However, without that, there really isn't much to her character, as we could already see in Strike. Not to mention she was already presented as champion. So, there's no thrill in seeing her achieve success, since we already know she's amongst the strongest.

The funny thing, Vivio is still their best bet for a MC, since she's an underdog. Sure, not a complete underdog like Corona, but that's precisely what makes her the best option as MC, since she's an underdog who has believable chances to succeed, and who has already proven herself. Not to mention her connection to Olivie was never exploited in Vivid, and that is a huge waste in potential.

With Vivid ending, if they want to continue this story, they should go back to the writing boards and try to give the story some perspective. They should try and attempt to tap the story's potential. If they want to just go back to endless tournaments, then they're better off just ending the story for good.

Mind you, I would say Force is the story that should be ended. Whilst it is story-focused, unlike Vivid, the story is just all over the place, it has FAR, FAR too many characters for anyone to actually care, and I don't think anyone actually cares about the MC. This is another story that should be taken back to the basics and get rewritten properly.
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Vivid is officially ending in the December issue. Everyone lets out a sigh of relief.
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>>2426055
Got a source?
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>>2426056
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-09-11/magical-girl-lyrical-nanoha-vivid-manga-ends-but-new-series-begins/.121179

Next chapter is the last and its being replaced with the usual movie tie in.
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>Everyone lets out a sigh of relief.
Count me out from that.
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>>2426181
>>2426182
Me too.
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>>2426059
Any news that comes after that?
Continue Nanoha in monthly manga format already proved to be a horrible idea.
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>>2426055
Thank God
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>>2424388
Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to add a male MC to the nanoha franchise?
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>>2426549
To be fair force's MC is the only shitty male character in the franchise. Yuuno, Kyoya, Chrono, Vice or Erio could have worked really well as protagonists.
Also, force would not have been any better if the MC were a girl.
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>>2426556
>Yuuno, Kyoya, Chrono, Vice or Erio could have worked really well as protagonists.

No, they aren't very good characters and should remain as side characters
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>>2426556
>Yuuno, Kyoya, Chrono, Vice or Erio could have worked really well as protagonists.
They are fine as supporting cast, but none of them could actually carry more than a short story.
>Also, force would not have been any better if the MC were a girl.
This is true. The plot was bad and the villains uninteresting. The unlikable MC only made it slightly worse.
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>>2426573
Not only that, but the Nanoha franchise already has far too many characters.
The franchise is at a point in which a reboot is highly necessary - though I guess the AU movies fit that role (in a way only, because they aren't the main continuity).

Vivid should have been planned better, since it could have been the saving grace of the franchise, but the moment they decided to make it about retarded tournaments instead of a plot-centric story, they pretty much killed any potential the series had.
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>>2426700
It had a plot in the beginning with Einhart. It also dropped the ball by revisiting StrikerS characters that nobody cared about in the first place.
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>>2426700
>Not only that, but the Nanoha franchise already has far too many characters.
We all know about this, everybody knows about it, but it doesn't really matter as long Tsuzuki thinks that keeping a story alive by adding more and more new characters than develop existing ones is the only option he will take(he did the same with DogDays).

Force could be much better if an established male character(if Tsuzuki really wanted to check how fans would react) would be MC, the perfect one would be Erio having an adventure with Caro and maybe also Lutecia on that planet they were working.

But no, Tsuzuki had to add an emo male MC who meet nude girl and who by accident became the strongest being now in the story but was most of the time crying about it.
In this case Isis would be better MC than Touma. Also how author had to give Touma connection to old cast was quite a mistake than him being someone fresh, Final Fantasy tier villains didn't help that who are cold blooded murderers but there's no consequence for that at all. If author wanted to get edgy seeing how he mauled Signum he should go all the way with it also on good guys side who would be killing their enemies too.
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>>2426929
Force problem, besides the character bloat, is adding stuff that are "cool" without caring why those things are considered like tat or how well thy fitted or not in the story.

Rehashing FF designs didn't help either.
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>>2426929
>Also how author had to give Touma connection to old cast was quite a mistake
Yeah that was weird and dumb.

>emo male MC
>>2426556
>shitty male characte
I don't think Thoma is particularly bad, I read it with fairly open mind and he seemed pretty okay. The only part "edgy" or "emo" about him was actually the effects of Eclipse, which is a brutal curse after all so it makes fucking sense to be a monster under the effects?
But if you pay attention, what did he do? He jumped of the ship so that if anybody had to die it was him and not others. Now that is not emo or edgy, that is a pretty adult and noble decision. I think people might sometimes kind of be "reading the shittiness into him" on their own, because they want some point of focus for their dislike of the whole manga or who knows why.
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>>2426994
but nothing is bland and boring, like a self insert... now makes sense.
A remake with only Lily and Isis would be better, all part of the virus would fall on Lily and Isis would be like a guardian, better yet without any relation with the old personages, could be a story where both are fujitivas and without trusting in any of the sides.
also a better Power Up and not glorify the villains.
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>>2427022
>personages
>fujitivas
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What's with the watermelon meme?
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>>2426994
>I don't think Thoma is particularly bad
He is only okay if you have no standards. He is a generic battleharem protagonist at best. None of what you described makes him particularly rounded or interesting, being kind, self-sacrificing and having a dark/mysterious side is the minimum of characterisation given to this kind of characters so they don't feel like a complete waste of space.
And even when compared with other LN protagonist he doesn't fare that well, there are a dozen Yuujieveryleads that did the whole "nice guy who wants to live a peaceful life but gets into trouble because he wants to help others and is supposed to be weak but is secretly harbouring some cool dark power than makes him OP as fuck" better. Even Yuuji himself is probably a better character than him.
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>>2427056
Apparently some jap meme >>>/a/162164271
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>>2427064
>having a dark/mysterious side
He doesn't actually, Force mostly skips that faggotry. He's back to the "unrealistically constructive adult-like kiddo" mode that is so common in Nanoha as soon as Lily stabilises him (so about 4-5 chapters after the Eclipse manifests on the Huck ship in him). I think sometimes people really only judge them harsher because he isn't a loli.
BTW, lead characters in Nanoha were always less interesting than their partners-deuterowhatchamacalits (Lily, Isis, as mentioned higher). But I don't think it makes sense to say that Fate should have been the MC of Nanoha S1 instead, that's not getting the point.

If I have a gripe with him, it is that forced "I'm chums with Sub" background and his dumb attempts to see Huckebeins as possible friends/good people. Although that is not as much a problem of his characterization, it's a problem with how the narrative itself treats Fuckebeins.
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>>2427067
>He doesn't actually, Force mostly skips that faggotry. He's back to the "unrealistically constructive adult-like kiddo" mode that is so commo
Because thats how you do that kind of plotline, you flip between the MC being a good guy and a scary monster according to the situation and keep going until the MC is forced to confront his dark side near the end of the story. Maybe throwing in an arc were he learns to control the dark powers before that.
Thoma's saving grace is that force got cancelled before we had to see him go through all of this but considering he was training with riot 6 and that the infected were supposed to be sympathetic you can bet they were building up this kind of story.
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>>2427067
>people really only judge them harsher because he isn't a loli.

Is that such a surprise? The franchise is built on yuri loli.
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>>2427100
I'm first to demand yuri, but everything in moderation.
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Have a comic.

This is what the White Devil does to people that try to pair her up with guys.
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>>2427067
Force in general was just a victim of poor execution.
I think there was a good way to do Force's story, but the way they did it didn't fit Nanoha as a series.

I'd be 100% on board for a version of Force that starred, say, Erio. And was his perspective of the entire event. Or maybe keep Touma, but change the pacing some and how the Hucks are introduced.
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>>2429313
I disagree. Why does Nanoha need a male protagonist or edgy DeviantArt Final Fantasy OCs as villains?
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>>2429330
Nanoha is the kind of series that can have any protagonist it wants. There is no special rule that only girls can be mahou in the Nanohaverse.
And there was a good way to do the entire arc with the Hucks. They could have dropped the Final Fantasy homages (what a terrible idea), maybe gave them some kind of personality, or just straight-up make them side characters.

One of the things I would have done if I were writing Force would be to make the Hucks the one-off villains that are defeated early on, and make the Grendels the big bads who figured out how to fully use their Eclipse Drivers. Why? Because they're fun, and not insufferable. Also, in a way, you want to see them win.
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>>2429332
>There is no special rule that only girls can be mahou in the Nanohaverse.
Yeah, but nobody is interested in male characters in this kind of franchise, making a magical girl and protagonist a male for no reason was a senseless decision.
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>>2429338
It could be done in a Nanoha series, though.
Let's go back to my first hypothetical, let's say it was from Erio's POV. Erio's kind of a blank slate, but he has a direct connection to the canon cast, and he is a pretty competent fighter on his own.
Same thing with say, Chrono. Chrono would have been a great way to open the Force incident, because that's exactly the kind of thing he would be sent to investigate.
Or even Touma. Touma just needed a little reworking. For one, drop the baffling dumb connection to the Hucks. Or just re-work him in general to not be as insufferable.

Or, if female protagonist is a must, Isis was right there, and could have easily filled the protagonist role.

There were so many ways of going about it, but they chose what seems to be the dumbest way, and fumbled it multiple times.
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>>2429338
That's the point, though. The people behind the franchise probably thought that adding a guy would allow the story to target boys more easily. Hell, everything in Force is the kind of stuff your typical Shounen Jump manga would put out.
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>>2429332
>Make the villains that are actually threatening and can challenge the heroes one-offs while making the fucking Grendels the big bads

That idea is trash and so are you.
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>>2429359
Yeah, basically whole premise screams that, a normal boy wh oget special power which is superior and can kill everyone around and he got it from finding a nude girl, then another girl joins his group and wow look he has forced stupid connection to Subaru, and through her to group of big female characters from original cast, next he gives heart attack to Fate and group of mages like it was nothing, then he fights with Nanoha, and the bullshit just builds up, him wanting to excuse everyone for their actions even if everyone knows they are cold bllooden murderers doesn't help either. At least later in Force he is overshadowed by the main cast a little. He is a take on special snowflake male MC which I usually hate to the core. I would much prefer if he was just a stray boy unrelated to old Nanoha cast and he wouldn't have safe net landing with Subaru. But then who knows if that was the case Tsuzuki would not make oit 2nd DogDays and suddenly he would be harem protag level which shows already in few chapters or extras.

I don't mind male characters in Nanoha but only as supporting cast since my main interest is girls spamming magic on each other and the villains. Vivid could be good if Tsuzuki gave it serious Belkan plot where the past would be getting back alive in present through the Belkan Kings memories and some threat from past which made them all fight each other. But in the end it was just cute girls character spam where Einhart took the role of protag from Vivio and started collecting girls right and left. I can say I like Vivid as SOL manga showing what the characters do when they are not fightning, the tournaments were completely uninteresting to me there.
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>>2429374
>Villains that are actually threatening.
The Hucks aren't threatening. They're insufferable. They're blatant plot devices and part of the reason Force failed as hard as it did.
Thinking that they should be anything other than one-off villains is a trash idea, and so are you; but so is the person who thought about making such weak non-characters be front-and-center of Force.

That person is the biggest trash of them all. The person who decided to do that is directly responsible for killing Force by having such trash characters be the focal point of the series, and in turn kill the modern Nanoha timeline by having a series on perm-hiatus.
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>>2429403
The Huck's at least threatened the main characters, which is more than what can be said about the Grendels. Plus there were things like Cypha and Signum's rivalry that had a lot of potential and would've given Signum some much needed development and give her something to do other than be "the badass one" of the cast.

>>2429378
>>2429359
I would honestly been completely okay with Force had Thoma been a girl. At least we still would've had a female MC. Really just reboot Force with a female protag and work from there.
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>>2429505
>I would honestly been completely okay with Force had Thoma been a girl. At least we still would've had a female MC.

I wouldn't. Force needs to stay dead. This franchise needs to debloat its cast and reviving Force on any capacity would not help with that.
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>>2429560
Seriously, an alien invasion that kills 90% of everyone introduced after A's would do this franchise so much good.
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>>2429356
Chrono and Erio are both taken, important thing. Chrono is even married, Erio is likely committed to Caro. You couldn't do the usual tensions with Isis and Lily.

>>2429505
>I would honestly been completely okay with Force had Thoma been a girl.
To do that now would be really weird, but it would drive away lots of criticism, no doubt. I bet people mind and bring out bits of the manga as bad just because Thoma happened to be a boy and they would ignore them if he was not. I think they are substitute "reasons" often. Well, what is done is done.

>>2429562
No, just no.
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>>2429505
Force had a lot more issues than just the MC. Replacing Thoma with someone less awful would make it better, yes, but it would still be a long way from good.
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>>2429584
Most manga and anime have lots of sloppiness, you have to deal. Lots could be said about Vivid Strike or Vivid too, and we accepted them (well, with some exceptions). I'm even quite fond of Vivid despite all its shortcomings and disagreeable decisions. Einhart should have become a belkan magic AND historiographic authority. Ditto Vivio and Fabia.
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>>2429594
Vivid is shit too, for different reasons but still shit. Both (Force and Vivid) are pretty transparent attempts at getting a fresh fanbase that fail miserably at everything else.
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>>2429505
>The Huck's at least threatened the main characters, which is more than what can be said about the Grendels.
Only because they were plot devices. Grendels were at least fun and could have been given the same tools.
>lus there were things like Cypha and Signum's rivalry that had a lot of potential and would've given Signum some much needed development and give her something to do other than be "the badass one" of the cast.
I agree with that, at least. Keep Cypha.
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>>2429785
IMHO, using her just for the plain old rivalry trope with some token other character just because that one is also female doesn't sound like anything particularly good.

Making her a direct commanding officer (and veteran support) to the Lily-Isis-Thoma group as shown in the Grendels confrontation would be a better role.

Cliche rivalry where the two characters always end up matched for a fight but otherwise hardly matter was already there with Zest, and it sucked. Signum had almost no role beside those appearences and it looked like she does nothing but slack at work, plus Zest was killed kinda pointlessly. (They should have shown him pass away naturally, giving a goodbye to Lulu and so on, that would be stronger than that shitty cliche. Could have been a nice detail if the cyborgs paid him a visit or if he sent them a goodbye.)
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Syamisen Koubou's doujins are finally getting translated. In Spanish.

Any way we can get in on this?

https://exhentai.org/g/1073920/ecc823bfb1/
https://exhentai.org/g/1116408/6aabaa1db1/
https://exhentai.org/g/1116410/abba2af898/
https://exhentai.org/g/1116415/0ac9e6e5d6/
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>>2430113
Aprendiendo español.
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Bleh, underage (at least some adult NanoFate though).
This page is cute though.
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New NanoFate doujin
Yoru ga Akeru Made
https://www.mediafire.com/file/kq32svv1azz9t8f
http://nanofate.us/content/yoru-ga-akeru-made-18
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>>2430113
I've had Blue Drives Monster TL'd for a bit, if anyone wants to QC and typeset.
http://pastebin.com/9Dh0ih71
https://exhentai.org/g/411881/046aa34378/
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>>2412513
>the next arc will be about the making of Smughart

I gotta be honest, an Einhart focused sequel is probably the only reason I can get excited about anything in this franchise not about NanoFate.
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>>2413109
>Nanoha feeds you good food & puts the hair on your chest by beating the shit out of you
>Fate makes up excuses for you & brings you comfort after the beating

Is there a luckier kid than Vivio?
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>>2434698
Jill probably envies Nove for having bagged Einhart by dumb luck, doesn't she.
Maybe she unconsciously wants to become Nove's wife to at least indirectly own Einhaato to.
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Crap I never noticed, but Saitou Chiwa is the VA for Janice Goat in VS.
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>This weird girl is touching me again
>I wish Yumina was here instead.
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>>2435428
this is what "they" call character development.
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>>2435910
I never thought something like this would happen
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Looking at this, it's clear that Fuuka still has a long long way to go.
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>>2436103
SmugHart is smug.
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>>2436104
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>>2436105
What? Did they really sleep together, and in Einhart's house on top of that?
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>>2436107
Yumino is her mistress, but Vivio will always be her wife.
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>>2436110
Yumina. Why did that typo happen?
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>>2436104
Smug Haru-nyan is best Haru-nyan
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>>2436107
WHY DID THIS TAKE THE WHOLE SERIES ENDING TO HAPPEN
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>>2436118
I really wish that Einhart had gotten to be in a better series. Easily one of the best characters to come out of Vivid.
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>>2436170
She is in a better series now.
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>>2436107
I, for one, look forward to our new yuri overlord. If they HAVE to retire Nanoha, let Einhart be the one to take her place.
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>>2436379
Ein is better as a player 2 than player one spot.
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Chinese scan for chapter 101 of vivid:

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5344410464
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>>2437026
>https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5344410464
Thanks!

>The final fight doesn't even take 2 whole chapters.
Kind of rushed. And they had it end with the boring way. At least it was not as bad as her fight in VS.

Also looks like Yumina was sleeping over too.
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>>2437240
She is in the floor next to Miura.
I understand you can not fit 6 lolis in a bed but at least she could have shared with some of them.
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>>2437026
>>2437240
So 103 is the final chapter? Or is it 102?
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>>2437251
The bed was not exactly small either, in the anime at least.
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>>2437277
I thought this one was? It was called "december issue" but they are ahead of htat in reality, that means like late september actual release date, it seems.
(I have no clue what this shit is but it seemed to be like that based on the takuya tweets)
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>>2437240
>>2437251
Einhart is going to need to upgrade to a Nanoha sized bed to fit her entire harem.
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>>2437501
The anime changed some locations and events, I think Ein's original room didn't even have that table in the manga, we should check the original source to make sure.
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>>2437501
>>2437506
She could have easily fit two more girls there, three if they cuddle up.

>>2437511
It is canon.
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>>2437515
So her bed is about the same in the anime, they only made the room giant for some reason and slightly changed/moved everything else.
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Bed is narrower singificantly.
It gives more cold and empty feel if room is huge with sparse furniture and a lone person inside.
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>>2437522
6 vs 8 planks/bar in the front thingy. So anime increased Einhart's loli-bedding ability by 33 %, assuming iso plank-offset.
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>>2437503
>>2437277
Next chater, 102, will be the final one.
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>>2437586
So there is still a chance that Vivio Force-takes Einhart's virginity in the last chapter and that is why Heidi E.S. Ingvalt doesn't speak with her in VS? Come on Claus, Bibi did it for purest-love reasons!
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>>2437633
This is too adorable.
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>>2437633
I expected a final panel with Vivio trying to do that with Einhart.

I was slightly disappointed.

Still vert cute.
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>>2437689
>Vivio trying to do that with Einhart
What I wanted in Vivid all the time. Timeskip never.
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>>2437633
for some reason I can imagine 25 year-old Vivio in a sweatshirt in her rented apartment, throwing aside the invitation to Ein and Yumina's wedding.
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https://twitter.com/h_azumaya/status/913389408534937600
Is this Innocent doujin crossover with Reflection (the barrier jacket)?
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OMG, Yuri goggles literally
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Reaction face material.
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>>2438605
Hayate is back in the wheelchair.
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>>2438313
>hey kid, you want some yuri?
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>>2438310
I wish someone would translate those. I know it's just about his artist friends but they look interesting enough.
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>>2438605
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>>2439323
Fuck they look so weird now.
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>>2439323
Fate looks now like some generic blonde character.
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>>2439493
Yeah, she looks ok in about everything else, but this one artwork is pretty weird.
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How do you go from pic related (and so on)
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It's been one year since Vivid Strike.
Did you thank Fuuka for saving the franchise?
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>>2439493
She still looks better than everybody else.
Seriously, why are Fate and Levi the only ones that don't look like shit?
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>>2440946
What's happening to Vivio's Saint Kaiser frontal deflectors?
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>>2440946
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>>2442436
Miura is pathetically flat
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>>2442604
Don't worry, you don't expect her to win over Fuuka, do you in flatness ?

Don't forget that Miura was chosen by Hayate, so she will definitely grow. Hayate won't allow another case like Vita.
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>>2442616
Fuuka is being fed human food. She will grow.
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>>2442604
So was Fate & Nanoha. What is your point?
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>>2443485
No they weren't. Specially Nanoha.
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New doujin:
http://nanofate.us/content/mangetsu-no-yoru-ni-hana-tou-18
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>>2443582
Miura is actually not flat in VStrike. I'd say those are kinda reasonable breasts for Japan. She just hardly shows them due to the design of the BJ.
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See the shadow
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>>2443802
>>2443804
Thats her augmented adult form and her BJ is a skinsuit. Nanoha had bigger boobs than that when she was 9.
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Oh, more yuri goggles.
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Anyone have the translation for this chart?
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>>2447225
>Vivi and Ein do not connect

at this point, it does not seem strange to me.
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>>2447225
Micaiya <-> Nove: best friends
Nove <-> Jill: coaches
Nove <-> Fuuka, Jill <-> Rinne: coach & student
Fuuka <-> Rinne: childhood friends
Rinne <-> Victoria: senpai - kouhai
Rinne -> (purple): family
Victoria <-> Seiglinde: childhood friends
Fuuka -> (orange): Nakajima gym's senpais
Fuuka <-> Einhart: master - disciple relationship
Einhart <-> Yumina: classmates
Einhart -> Fabia: think of her like a little sister
Einhart <-> Harry: get along
Harry <-> Els: get along?
Rinne -> Einhart: look up to
Vivio <-> Miura: rivals
Vivio -> (green): Vivio's friends
<->(black): opponents in WC

>>2447420
The black arrow separating them never fails to amuse me.
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>>2447420
>there is even a random arrow between fucking Harry and Einhart
>they don't even speak with each other a single time, in anime or manga
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>>2447225
this chart needs to be the image of the OP in the next thread, it deserves it.
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New thread
>>2447939
>>2447939
>>2447939

>>2447643
That would be unrecognizable as a thumbnail.




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