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Old Thread: >>2430518

Someplaces to fic
fanfiction.net
archiveofourown.org

Post links to fics and discuss them and fanfiction in general. Link fics you like, your own stuff, anything goes as long as it's yuri.
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Did anything interesting come out of that dark femslash (or something to that effect) week?
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>>2461534

darkfemslashweek.tumblr.com/tagged/fanfic

There are also fic recs and whatnot. For a small event that wasn't exactly heavily advertised and all that, it did okay. I mean, this *is* tumblr fandom, where the Swen BNFs I talked to about the online Femslash Day con that Ralst and Ariestess have been running for a while didn't even know it existed.

(Though I suppose that says more about me assuming femslash writers actually take an interest in femslash on a wider level than just the three f/f ships they write, vs their ignorance of legitimate BNFs and how big femslash fandom actually is.)
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I know it's a dumb question, but what books/texts/materials/etc has helped you with your writing?
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> Oh goody new Worm stu-

> Hypnotits

Objectively the worst.
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>>2463198
I understood like two percent of this post.
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>>2464129
You aren't alone. I even looked up BNF and got something about rc airplanes. I guess it's some weird western fandom thing. I never watched Kim Possible so I guess I'm out of the loop.
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>>2464197
Could we put a disclaimer in the OP telling people not to use acronyms because nobody outside of the relevant fandom has any idea what they mean?
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>>2464197
My guess is that it stands for Big-Name Fuckwads or popular fanfic writers
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>>2464197

Big Name Fan.

https://fanlore.org/wiki/Big_Name_Fan
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>>2463686
http://theeditorsblog.net/
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>>2464049
Consider me interested.
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>>2464463
I always put off doing NaNoWriMo every year, maybe I'll write a yuri book. 50K words can't be too hard right?
>my file full of short stories that I've been working on for seven years only has 17K words
Well, I guess I'll be done in twenty years.
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>>2465150
The thing with NaNoWriMo is that it puts sheer volume over everything else from proofreading to planning. The entire point is to just churn out ANYTHING to meet the goal and worry about it later.
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>>2464483

It's on QQ obviously. Though Wolf Spider is a fun fic and what I'm calling Bitch/Skitter
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Please give me a word count to write up to and complete today or I will die.
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>>2465660
350.
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>>2465660
800
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>>2465660
1150
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>>2465660
200k
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>>2465660
2300
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>>2465660
9001
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>>2465660
6969
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Cruel fellow writer neesans! I did end up writing a nice chunk though so thank you for the bullying, it helped.
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>>2465701
Only half of us were really bullying.
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>>2465701
write more you slut
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>>2465701
Half it was hand-holding, right? You dirty writer
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Tell me about endings, guys. Anyone can make up good premises and middle material, but what about endings?
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>>2465738
Dying in the arms of her lover.
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>>2465738

They live happily ever after, but not before certain sacrifices are made so you get the bittersweet feeling that even though they love each other deeply, they really don't have a choice but to stay together and rely on each other anyway.

And that thought nags your readers for at least 40 minutes after they finish the story. Shit, if you're good, it might nag them for an hour.
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>>2465738
Three options:

1. One or both of the leads dies of cancer or some other illness
2. Homophobic mobs puts them both on a stake.
3. Haha they were het all along
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>>2465750
EVERY BLOODY TIEM
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>>2465750
>3. Haha they were het all along
I'd prefer the two above options than this.
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>>2465738

They fall out with each other but the MC is left wistfully looking at a new romance. Make it bittersweet.
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>>2465738
Bittersweet endings are the best. Have the protagonist die, or something like that.
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>>2465738
Just fucking end it. And plan for said ending. It doesn't have to be sad or bittersweet as long as it ties everything up neatly. It's nice to have a reflection of the start or the main themes of the story to put a good period on it.
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Is it narcissistic to commission fanart of your own story?
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>>2467241
Not at all anon
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>>2467241
Commission the fanart to use as the icon/cover illustration for your fanfic. It'll make the readers' experience better.
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>>2467241
Who cares. More yuri for the world.
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>>2467241
Post the story.
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>>2467241
Link?
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Have you ever PM'd an author asking if their fic would ever update? Got any reply?
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>>2468021
Yes and maybe. We got into a rather lively correspondence for a while discussing her work and influences. Nothing ever came of it though.
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Is there any good Taylor/Amy aka Skitter/Panacea (Worm) fanfiction?
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>>2468195
Amelia is a must-read.
Putting Down Roots is another must-read, and I could put a disclaimer here, but it's better if you don't know anything about it before reading it.
Silencio is fun.
Heredity is good.
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>>2468207
Thanks)

They are all published on spacebattles, right?
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>>2468250
Amelia is only on Questionable Questing and AO3. Yes to the others.
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>>2468264
I thought about "did you mention Amelia on SB or there is another fic with that name", but i look at QQ Amelia, and they are the same, nice.

Thanks a lot.
(Amy so cute... Need more nice worm art)
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>>2465738
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD4hSJybyCY
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>>2463686
It's super cliche, but literally just reading. Read a wide range of authors - preferably multiple works by each - and try to understand their styles not only formatting/prose wise, but plot and pacing wise. Find what works for you and what doesn't, and adapt those lessons into your own works.
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>>2468609
Definitely. One of the best pieces of advice I've ever gotten just said that, whenever you read a sentence or piece of dialogue that's so good that you reread it, then you should break it down until you understand exactly why that little bit was so engrossing, and try to incorporate it into your own work.
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>>2468609
>>2468623
agreed. when i started giving a shit about getting better i started saving passages i liked and then dissecting them. i have also been challenging myself to read more, and read more outside of what i'd usually choose. one of the most surprising books i read from a prose and passion standpoint was "the art of the rifle" by jeff cooper.

one of the few things that really stuck with me from college, besides residual alcoholism, was what a pulitzer prize winning author told our class of incoming freshmen. he was replying to a question about becoming a good writer, and his answer was, "you either get it or you don't."

probably means different things to different people, but i took at it as if you don't get "it" then you best make it your business to figure "it" out, and imo the best way to do that is to read.

but once you've done all that reading, you still need to fucking write. even if it's something that never sees the light of day. you can still learn from just trying things out and looking at your own work. everyone writes garbage at some point but how are you supposed to get better if you ain't even trying?

this may or may not be useful, but i'm really open to reaching out for help and i think that helps me in the end. whether it's for info on topics that i'm not familiar with and writing about, or bugging someone that reads way more than i do to beta.
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>>2463686
>>2468677
I know a lot of people think ill of him, but I love Bukowski. He had some great advice on writing too. He said something about writing similar to
>but once you've done all that reading, you still need to fucking write. even if it's something that never sees the light of day. you can still learn from just trying things out and looking at your own work. everyone writes garbage at some point but how are you supposed to get better if you ain't even trying?

>"“I’m not one to look back on wanton waste as complete loss—there’s music in everything, even defeat.”

So long as this is all writing help and tips and stuff:
>Tell me about endings, guys. Anyone can make up good premises and middle material, but what about endings?
Endings are difficult. It's nice to say that you shouldn't go in writing without knowing how you want to end your work, but that doesn't always work out. Things change, and endings can come about organically.

The best advice I ever got about writing came from one of the toughest professors I ever had. He said that, no matter what your story is, an ending is never "the end" unless all of your characters are dead. The end of the story is simply the end of the events covered by the work (whether it's short fiction or a novel) and that the end should express this. An ending should certainly conclude the events of the story (I like bittersweet endings myself because they feel more realistic/complete/real) and at the same time that it concludes the ending it should still be clear that there is more to the world and life for those characters. This is especially important for oneshots - the events of the story are simply one line segment, one set of events, in the lives of the characters.

tl;dr
No matter if your ending is happy/sad/whatever, the important part is that it only feels like the end of the events/conflict that the story dealt with, and that there is still a continuation for these characters after the story is over.
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Does anyone have any good fics that deal with falling out of love?

I read a kpop one once that built up from college sweethearts and it stuck with me for a long time. Haven't been able to find anything to scratch that itch since.
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Sometimes a fic is so bad that I'm not sure if it was written by a troll or a 12 years old kid.
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>>2468716
This is really good advice. "The only true ending is death", can't remember where I got that from. This isn't /u/ related, but when I was a kid the ending of the Bartimaeus trilogy really affected me. Some of the characters ended up better off, but the future was still uncertain for them and they had a lot of work ahead of them.
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>no motivation to write
>multiple unfinished stories
>people have already forgotten about them even if I would update
>haven't read a new fic in ages to get motivated to write

help
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>>2470095
I haven't written anything in forever either, and I actually started writing again at work instead of just playing games on my phone. It remains to be seen how long my motivation will last, but so far so good.
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I fucking hate when authors use a fuckton of tags on ao3, thats how I know their stuff is shit
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>>2470143
What really annoys me are the completely pointless tags like "wrote this while cutting myself", "shoutout to Nate", "things that make me say ayy lmao". But yeah, it's a definitely sign that it's a steaming pile.
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I wish there was more variety when it comes to smut in F/F fics. I want to see some hardcore kinky stuff sometimes. Don't get me wrong, there's definitely some kinks I'll always avoid no matter the pairing or how well-written it is, but I do get tired when the only smut in a fandom consist of mostly gentle, first time fics where only fingering is involved, and not even any oral.
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>>2471072
What kind of kinks you'd like to see?
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>>2470095
I feel you. Right now I'm working on updating a fic that hasn't been updated since 2013, for a dead fandom/pairing to boot. At this point I'm doing it more out of satisfaction for myself than anything else though.
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>>2471124
Bondage, flogging, breathplay, clamps, etc. I'm squeamish when it comes to blood, but I think I could handle some mild knifeplay, especially if the pairing involved came from a setting where the cuts could be healed easily, thus reducing the risk of harm. Everything I just listed isn't even near the extreme end of the kinky stuff you can find in M/M. F/F just tends to be fairly vanilla.
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Is it possible to have a "surprise" F/F pairing in a fic?
I mean, I could just not tag it as F/F, but...then nobody would read it...
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>>2470143
>those massive 50-fandom, 500-tag fics that update hourly and take ten seconds to scroll past
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I've seen people 20 years old or more writting crossover or OC fics. Why
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>>2471513
Depends on the place and fandom? If you wanna get into it, you could paint it as kind of a general adventure/whatever and it evolves along the way hence why there's no pairing tagged. FFN writers, before they had the tags they still don't consistently use, would often just have the two main girls tagged and then something like hurt|comfort/adventure.

In that sense, they're kind of a surprise but it would still show up when searching for the characters. If you're worried about no one reading, on Ao3 which sounds like it, you could have it tagged but not have the two girls grouped up in the tags. Would be fitting if there's another lesbian couple that are relevant to the story until later when the main girls get together.
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>>2463686
The Writing Excuses podcast
Stephen King's book 'On Writing'
Chuck Wendig's book 'The Kick Ass Writer' (more motivational than instructional. I read it when I'm feeling down about writing or like I'm forgetting something)
irc.undernet.org #bookz
Reading a lot. So much. Reading forever.
Writing 1-2k every day, even when you feel like shit.
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>>2471513
It's a wicked conundrum: finding stuff that you like (F/F in this example) in a fic/book/film/XXX is a great surprise when you're not expecting it, but how do you discover stuff that matches the criteria and still have it be a surprise?

I have a dream of having a robot assistant (lesbian robots when) who'll pick good stuff for me to read, and then I won't be pre-spoiled.
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>>2471568
I actually thought about the same thing, except it was a "curator AI" who just spent all her time browsing the net to find things I'd enjoy.

I bet it'll happen someday too, seems like something plenty of people would want.
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Is it me, or is the filter in Ao3 next to useless sometimes?

For example, when i'm looking through the Dragon Age section and I filter to see f/f relationships only, i'm still getting mostly hetfics.
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>>2471673
you also get m/f fics. Multiple things can be tagged.

You just gotta filter out het. Type "-f/m" into the other tags box. You can also filter out yaoi the same way with "-m/m"
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>>2471673
how are you searching? the sidebar tick boxes just show you ALL fics with f/f included in the tags.

you can remove f/m and m/m with the "search within results" field.

if the problem is authors not tagging their pairings properly, i don't think there's much anyone can do.
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>>2471706
According to the Dragon Age fandom, two women walking past eachother down a corridor is enough for a fic to have the f/f tag.
Seriously, there are fics that are 99.9% het that are included in the f/f filter. Ao3 needs to crackdown on that BS.
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>>2471715
People are clinically retarded and don't understand the difference between Character/character (the pairing) tag and Character+character, the gen tag
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>>2471715
i don't think Ao3 has the staff to do that on a mechanical level, and i don't know how to fix the tagging problem besides educating the authors. it's definitely a frustrating problem and i don't understand why people continue to do it.

i can't remember if you can set the tag order manually. if you could do that, it'd be possible to list a primary pairing first and anything ancillary after.

someone made a bot that would find f/f% in a fic, but it hasn't been updated in a while http://femslash-finder.tumblr.com/

imo just filter the f/m out. you're probably not missing much. >>2470143 isn't wrong. if someone's written a primarily f/f story and still felt the need to tag every single side pairing there's a decent chance it's not gonna be great anyways. if you want to find the one diamond in the rough, you're in for a slog no matter what.

>>2471511
what fandoms are you usually in? i think western ones tend to have more options for kinks than nip 2d.
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>>2471785
So what's Character|character?
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>>2461488
>barely any luvia/rin fics
goddamnit
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>>2471799
... vore?
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>>2471823
What? Come on anon, I'm sure that would be character/character since vore's usually a pairing since it's a fetish. I heard character|character signifies friendship but I hardly see it used so I was curious.
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>>2471797
Western fandoms are my main fandoms, though. I've been in fandoms for tv shows, books, movies and video games.
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>>2471799
That's Japanese Name|English Name of one character, isn't it...?
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>>2471825
i thought you were making a pipe joke, my bad.

>>2471863 is right. on ao3 the | is for characters with multiple names or aliases.

the / is for pairing, & is for other relationships like friendship. people don't always follow the latter.

>>2471834
bummer dude. i can only suggest where i've been that had at least some good fics. person of interest, overwatch, rwby, league of legends, homestuck did you check the dark femslash thing posted at the start of the thread?
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>>2471785
It took me a while to realize I had to tag each character on top of a CharacterA/Character B tag. That's part of the reason for all the friggin' tags listed on stories. CharacterA/Character B should automatically tag both, but it doesn't.
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There was this time I was reading some Fang x Light fic, but then suddenly the author turned Vanille into straight and paired her with Hope. Fuck this shit, just because a girl gets in the way of your ship it doesn't make it ok to pretend she is hetero.
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>>2472734
>Missing a potential threesome and writing in a bunch of het
How can people be this hopeless?
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Anyone here has a copy of Allquall's NanoFate fics? I'm looking for "The Name of War" and "[M]Other Love" in particular.
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>>2473974
>Name of War

So mad this never finished. Nailed their married life perfectly
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>>2473982
I didn't even get to read it. Been following Allquall from animesuki back in the day, she has lotta great stuff, but she published that fic during the time I have a break from the fandom and when I'm back it's gone.
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I need a cartoon that has a bunch of high school girls that might still have a sleepover, and at least one single mom they might molest.
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What femslash pairing and kink would you love to see written? Like "I would kill for it" fic?

I'd love to see some type of proper Rin/Saber from FSN with a strap-on. It was criminal knowing they had sex but for not really long or before Rin could thoroughly pleasure her.
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>>2474435
W.I.T.C.H.
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>>2474448
Oh man, I had forgotten about that series.
The dream-rain scene with topless Will awakened the /u/ in me
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The question's been asked before, but authors: do you ever slip a fetish or two into your non-porn fics? What fetishes?
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>>2474565
My fetishes are political struggles, UST (unresolved sexual tension), and magic babies. I never write a fic without either of those, regardless of the presence of sex scenes.




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