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Old Thread: >>2430518

Someplaces to fic
fanfiction.net
archiveofourown.org

Post links to fics and discuss them and fanfiction in general. Link fics you like, your own stuff, anything goes as long as it's yuri.
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Did anything interesting come out of that dark femslash (or something to that effect) week?
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>>2461534

darkfemslashweek.tumblr.com/tagged/fanfic

There are also fic recs and whatnot. For a small event that wasn't exactly heavily advertised and all that, it did okay. I mean, this *is* tumblr fandom, where the Swen BNFs I talked to about the online Femslash Day con that Ralst and Ariestess have been running for a while didn't even know it existed.

(Though I suppose that says more about me assuming femslash writers actually take an interest in femslash on a wider level than just the three f/f ships they write, vs their ignorance of legitimate BNFs and how big femslash fandom actually is.)
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I know it's a dumb question, but what books/texts/materials/etc has helped you with your writing?
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> Oh goody new Worm stu-

> Hypnotits

Objectively the worst.
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>>2463198
I understood like two percent of this post.
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>>2464129
You aren't alone. I even looked up BNF and got something about rc airplanes. I guess it's some weird western fandom thing. I never watched Kim Possible so I guess I'm out of the loop.
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>>2464197
Could we put a disclaimer in the OP telling people not to use acronyms because nobody outside of the relevant fandom has any idea what they mean?
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>>2464197
My guess is that it stands for Big-Name Fuckwads or popular fanfic writers
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>>2464197

Big Name Fan.

https://fanlore.org/wiki/Big_Name_Fan
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>>2463686
http://theeditorsblog.net/
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>>2464049
Consider me interested.
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>>2464463
I always put off doing NaNoWriMo every year, maybe I'll write a yuri book. 50K words can't be too hard right?
>my file full of short stories that I've been working on for seven years only has 17K words
Well, I guess I'll be done in twenty years.
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>>2465150
The thing with NaNoWriMo is that it puts sheer volume over everything else from proofreading to planning. The entire point is to just churn out ANYTHING to meet the goal and worry about it later.
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>>2464483

It's on QQ obviously. Though Wolf Spider is a fun fic and what I'm calling Bitch/Skitter
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Please give me a word count to write up to and complete today or I will die.
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>>2465660
350.
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>>2465660
800
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>>2465660
1150
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>>2465660
200k
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>>2465660
2300
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>>2465660
9001
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>>2465660
6969
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Cruel fellow writer neesans! I did end up writing a nice chunk though so thank you for the bullying, it helped.
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>>2465701
Only half of us were really bullying.
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>>2465701
write more you slut
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>>2465701
Half it was hand-holding, right? You dirty writer
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Tell me about endings, guys. Anyone can make up good premises and middle material, but what about endings?
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>>2465738
Dying in the arms of her lover.
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>>2465738

They live happily ever after, but not before certain sacrifices are made so you get the bittersweet feeling that even though they love each other deeply, they really don't have a choice but to stay together and rely on each other anyway.

And that thought nags your readers for at least 40 minutes after they finish the story. Shit, if you're good, it might nag them for an hour.
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>>2465738
Three options:

1. One or both of the leads dies of cancer or some other illness
2. Homophobic mobs puts them both on a stake.
3. Haha they were het all along
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>>2465750
EVERY BLOODY TIEM
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>>2465750
>3. Haha they were het all along
I'd prefer the two above options than this.
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>>2465738

They fall out with each other but the MC is left wistfully looking at a new romance. Make it bittersweet.
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>>2465738
Bittersweet endings are the best. Have the protagonist die, or something like that.
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>>2465738
Just fucking end it. And plan for said ending. It doesn't have to be sad or bittersweet as long as it ties everything up neatly. It's nice to have a reflection of the start or the main themes of the story to put a good period on it.
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Is it narcissistic to commission fanart of your own story?
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>>2467241
Not at all anon
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>>2467241
Commission the fanart to use as the icon/cover illustration for your fanfic. It'll make the readers' experience better.
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>>2467241
Who cares. More yuri for the world.
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>>2467241
Post the story.
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>>2467241
Link?
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Have you ever PM'd an author asking if their fic would ever update? Got any reply?
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>>2468021
Yes and maybe. We got into a rather lively correspondence for a while discussing her work and influences. Nothing ever came of it though.
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Is there any good Taylor/Amy aka Skitter/Panacea (Worm) fanfiction?
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>>2468195
Amelia is a must-read.
Putting Down Roots is another must-read, and I could put a disclaimer here, but it's better if you don't know anything about it before reading it.
Silencio is fun.
Heredity is good.
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>>2468207
Thanks)

They are all published on spacebattles, right?
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>>2468250
Amelia is only on Questionable Questing and AO3. Yes to the others.
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>>2468264
I thought about "did you mention Amelia on SB or there is another fic with that name", but i look at QQ Amelia, and they are the same, nice.

Thanks a lot.
(Amy so cute... Need more nice worm art)
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>>2465738
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD4hSJybyCY
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>>2463686
It's super cliche, but literally just reading. Read a wide range of authors - preferably multiple works by each - and try to understand their styles not only formatting/prose wise, but plot and pacing wise. Find what works for you and what doesn't, and adapt those lessons into your own works.
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>>2468609
Definitely. One of the best pieces of advice I've ever gotten just said that, whenever you read a sentence or piece of dialogue that's so good that you reread it, then you should break it down until you understand exactly why that little bit was so engrossing, and try to incorporate it into your own work.
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>>2468609
>>2468623
agreed. when i started giving a shit about getting better i started saving passages i liked and then dissecting them. i have also been challenging myself to read more, and read more outside of what i'd usually choose. one of the most surprising books i read from a prose and passion standpoint was "the art of the rifle" by jeff cooper.

one of the few things that really stuck with me from college, besides residual alcoholism, was what a pulitzer prize winning author told our class of incoming freshmen. he was replying to a question about becoming a good writer, and his answer was, "you either get it or you don't."

probably means different things to different people, but i took at it as if you don't get "it" then you best make it your business to figure "it" out, and imo the best way to do that is to read.

but once you've done all that reading, you still need to fucking write. even if it's something that never sees the light of day. you can still learn from just trying things out and looking at your own work. everyone writes garbage at some point but how are you supposed to get better if you ain't even trying?

this may or may not be useful, but i'm really open to reaching out for help and i think that helps me in the end. whether it's for info on topics that i'm not familiar with and writing about, or bugging someone that reads way more than i do to beta.
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>>2463686
>>2468677
I know a lot of people think ill of him, but I love Bukowski. He had some great advice on writing too. He said something about writing similar to
>but once you've done all that reading, you still need to fucking write. even if it's something that never sees the light of day. you can still learn from just trying things out and looking at your own work. everyone writes garbage at some point but how are you supposed to get better if you ain't even trying?

>"“I’m not one to look back on wanton waste as complete loss—there’s music in everything, even defeat.”

So long as this is all writing help and tips and stuff:
>Tell me about endings, guys. Anyone can make up good premises and middle material, but what about endings?
Endings are difficult. It's nice to say that you shouldn't go in writing without knowing how you want to end your work, but that doesn't always work out. Things change, and endings can come about organically.

The best advice I ever got about writing came from one of the toughest professors I ever had. He said that, no matter what your story is, an ending is never "the end" unless all of your characters are dead. The end of the story is simply the end of the events covered by the work (whether it's short fiction or a novel) and that the end should express this. An ending should certainly conclude the events of the story (I like bittersweet endings myself because they feel more realistic/complete/real) and at the same time that it concludes the ending it should still be clear that there is more to the world and life for those characters. This is especially important for oneshots - the events of the story are simply one line segment, one set of events, in the lives of the characters.

tl;dr
No matter if your ending is happy/sad/whatever, the important part is that it only feels like the end of the events/conflict that the story dealt with, and that there is still a continuation for these characters after the story is over.
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Does anyone have any good fics that deal with falling out of love?

I read a kpop one once that built up from college sweethearts and it stuck with me for a long time. Haven't been able to find anything to scratch that itch since.
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Sometimes a fic is so bad that I'm not sure if it was written by a troll or a 12 years old kid.
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>>2468716
This is really good advice. "The only true ending is death", can't remember where I got that from. This isn't /u/ related, but when I was a kid the ending of the Bartimaeus trilogy really affected me. Some of the characters ended up better off, but the future was still uncertain for them and they had a lot of work ahead of them.
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>no motivation to write
>multiple unfinished stories
>people have already forgotten about them even if I would update
>haven't read a new fic in ages to get motivated to write

help
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>>2470095
I haven't written anything in forever either, and I actually started writing again at work instead of just playing games on my phone. It remains to be seen how long my motivation will last, but so far so good.
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I fucking hate when authors use a fuckton of tags on ao3, thats how I know their stuff is shit
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>>2470143
What really annoys me are the completely pointless tags like "wrote this while cutting myself", "shoutout to Nate", "things that make me say ayy lmao". But yeah, it's a definitely sign that it's a steaming pile.
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I wish there was more variety when it comes to smut in F/F fics. I want to see some hardcore kinky stuff sometimes. Don't get me wrong, there's definitely some kinks I'll always avoid no matter the pairing or how well-written it is, but I do get tired when the only smut in a fandom consist of mostly gentle, first time fics where only fingering is involved, and not even any oral.
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>>2471072
What kind of kinks you'd like to see?
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>>2470095
I feel you. Right now I'm working on updating a fic that hasn't been updated since 2013, for a dead fandom/pairing to boot. At this point I'm doing it more out of satisfaction for myself than anything else though.
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>>2471124
Bondage, flogging, breathplay, clamps, etc. I'm squeamish when it comes to blood, but I think I could handle some mild knifeplay, especially if the pairing involved came from a setting where the cuts could be healed easily, thus reducing the risk of harm. Everything I just listed isn't even near the extreme end of the kinky stuff you can find in M/M. F/F just tends to be fairly vanilla.
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Is it possible to have a "surprise" F/F pairing in a fic?
I mean, I could just not tag it as F/F, but...then nobody would read it...
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>>2470143
>those massive 50-fandom, 500-tag fics that update hourly and take ten seconds to scroll past
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I've seen people 20 years old or more writting crossover or OC fics. Why
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>>2471513
Depends on the place and fandom? If you wanna get into it, you could paint it as kind of a general adventure/whatever and it evolves along the way hence why there's no pairing tagged. FFN writers, before they had the tags they still don't consistently use, would often just have the two main girls tagged and then something like hurt|comfort/adventure.

In that sense, they're kind of a surprise but it would still show up when searching for the characters. If you're worried about no one reading, on Ao3 which sounds like it, you could have it tagged but not have the two girls grouped up in the tags. Would be fitting if there's another lesbian couple that are relevant to the story until later when the main girls get together.
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>>2463686
The Writing Excuses podcast
Stephen King's book 'On Writing'
Chuck Wendig's book 'The Kick Ass Writer' (more motivational than instructional. I read it when I'm feeling down about writing or like I'm forgetting something)
irc.undernet.org #bookz
Reading a lot. So much. Reading forever.
Writing 1-2k every day, even when you feel like shit.
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>>2471513
It's a wicked conundrum: finding stuff that you like (F/F in this example) in a fic/book/film/XXX is a great surprise when you're not expecting it, but how do you discover stuff that matches the criteria and still have it be a surprise?

I have a dream of having a robot assistant (lesbian robots when) who'll pick good stuff for me to read, and then I won't be pre-spoiled.
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>>2471568
I actually thought about the same thing, except it was a "curator AI" who just spent all her time browsing the net to find things I'd enjoy.

I bet it'll happen someday too, seems like something plenty of people would want.
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Is it me, or is the filter in Ao3 next to useless sometimes?

For example, when i'm looking through the Dragon Age section and I filter to see f/f relationships only, i'm still getting mostly hetfics.
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>>2471673
you also get m/f fics. Multiple things can be tagged.

You just gotta filter out het. Type "-f/m" into the other tags box. You can also filter out yaoi the same way with "-m/m"
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>>2471673
how are you searching? the sidebar tick boxes just show you ALL fics with f/f included in the tags.

you can remove f/m and m/m with the "search within results" field.

if the problem is authors not tagging their pairings properly, i don't think there's much anyone can do.
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>>2471706
According to the Dragon Age fandom, two women walking past eachother down a corridor is enough for a fic to have the f/f tag.
Seriously, there are fics that are 99.9% het that are included in the f/f filter. Ao3 needs to crackdown on that BS.
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>>2471715
People are clinically retarded and don't understand the difference between Character/character (the pairing) tag and Character+character, the gen tag
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>>2471715
i don't think Ao3 has the staff to do that on a mechanical level, and i don't know how to fix the tagging problem besides educating the authors. it's definitely a frustrating problem and i don't understand why people continue to do it.

i can't remember if you can set the tag order manually. if you could do that, it'd be possible to list a primary pairing first and anything ancillary after.

someone made a bot that would find f/f% in a fic, but it hasn't been updated in a while http://femslash-finder.tumblr.com/

imo just filter the f/m out. you're probably not missing much. >>2470143 isn't wrong. if someone's written a primarily f/f story and still felt the need to tag every single side pairing there's a decent chance it's not gonna be great anyways. if you want to find the one diamond in the rough, you're in for a slog no matter what.

>>2471511
what fandoms are you usually in? i think western ones tend to have more options for kinks than nip 2d.
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>>2471785
So what's Character|character?
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>>2461488
>barely any luvia/rin fics
goddamnit
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>>2471799
... vore?
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>>2471823
What? Come on anon, I'm sure that would be character/character since vore's usually a pairing since it's a fetish. I heard character|character signifies friendship but I hardly see it used so I was curious.
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>>2471797
Western fandoms are my main fandoms, though. I've been in fandoms for tv shows, books, movies and video games.
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>>2471799
That's Japanese Name|English Name of one character, isn't it...?
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>>2471825
i thought you were making a pipe joke, my bad.

>>2471863 is right. on ao3 the | is for characters with multiple names or aliases.

the / is for pairing, & is for other relationships like friendship. people don't always follow the latter.

>>2471834
bummer dude. i can only suggest where i've been that had at least some good fics. person of interest, overwatch, rwby, league of legends, homestuck did you check the dark femslash thing posted at the start of the thread?
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>>2471785
It took me a while to realize I had to tag each character on top of a CharacterA/Character B tag. That's part of the reason for all the friggin' tags listed on stories. CharacterA/Character B should automatically tag both, but it doesn't.
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There was this time I was reading some Fang x Light fic, but then suddenly the author turned Vanille into straight and paired her with Hope. Fuck this shit, just because a girl gets in the way of your ship it doesn't make it ok to pretend she is hetero.
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>>2472734
>Missing a potential threesome and writing in a bunch of het
How can people be this hopeless?
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Anyone here has a copy of Allquall's NanoFate fics? I'm looking for "The Name of War" and "[M]Other Love" in particular.
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>>2473974
>Name of War

So mad this never finished. Nailed their married life perfectly
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>>2473982
I didn't even get to read it. Been following Allquall from animesuki back in the day, she has lotta great stuff, but she published that fic during the time I have a break from the fandom and when I'm back it's gone.
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I need a cartoon that has a bunch of high school girls that might still have a sleepover, and at least one single mom they might molest.
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What femslash pairing and kink would you love to see written? Like "I would kill for it" fic?

I'd love to see some type of proper Rin/Saber from FSN with a strap-on. It was criminal knowing they had sex but for not really long or before Rin could thoroughly pleasure her.
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>>2474435
W.I.T.C.H.
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>>2474448
Oh man, I had forgotten about that series.
The dream-rain scene with topless Will awakened the /u/ in me
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The question's been asked before, but authors: do you ever slip a fetish or two into your non-porn fics? What fetishes?
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>>2474565
My fetishes are political struggles, UST (unresolved sexual tension), and magic babies. I never write a fic without either of those, regardless of the presence of sex scenes.
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>>2474565
I can't stop myself from inserting d/s undertones and thinly veiled bondage.
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>>2474565
I always find myself mentioning age gap.
>>2475232
And this too, I just can't help it.
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>>2474565
Height difference. I can't help it.
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>>2474565
I like to include something about sweat/sheens of sweat/wet clothing/clothing sticking slightly. I try not to be too overt about any of it, though.
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>>2474565
Breast envy
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>>2474565
My fetishes are regular weekly updates and satisfying endings. I rub them in my readers' faces but they never complain.
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>>2474565
I like guns.

I really like girls shooting guns.

I really, really like when the guns girls are shooting are written with a modicum of accuracy.

And apparently I also like reacharounds because I keep writing them.
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>>2474444
A slowburn fic where Michiru and Haruka seduce Usagi, because Michiru believes in making closet cases go on sexy journeys of self-discovery.
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>>2474444
Frozen: Elsa accidentally impregnated Anna with an ice strike during an argument. There was one pretty good author who attempted to write this but it was on hiatus; at least the part where Gerda starting to notice Anna's absence of menstruation was satisfying. I really want to know how the sisters will resolve the political shitstorm it can cause and fall in love.

Little Witch Academia: Akko agreed to give Andrew a chance after he confessed to her, prompting Diana to realize her feelings. Jealous Diana's psyche is fragile so she got possessed by an evil spirit and raped Akko. Lots of angst before sweet romance.
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>>2475535
>That LWA pitch
I've read those two things separately, but not together.
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>>2475565
There's a fic with Diana raping Akko? Where?
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>>2475578
It's in Spanish, and I've just heard apparently bilingual anons talking about it.

There's also an English one involving a vampire hypnotising them into fucking, but I don't think that counts.
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What's the thing you love most about your favorite writer?
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>>2475607
The mixture of perfectionism and anxiety that I have.
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>>2475594
Just give the damn name, neesan. It's such a waste of time talking in this vague manner.

And that vampire fic doesn't count because Diana wants the vampire the whole time, zero attraction for Akko.
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>>2474565
Constantly. Bruises, rough playfighting, height differences, to name only a few.
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>>2475471
>girls shooting guns with a modicum of accuracy

Onee-chan please link me to your work.
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>>2475232
Throw subtlety out the window and just break out the shibari ropes, anon. Femslash needs more heavy bondage.
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>following a story that was clearly completed a year ago
I don't understand why people do this?
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>>2475790
Reflex?
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>>2475790
I do it when I like a story, but not enough to favorite it...
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>>2475798
This, plus I don't think follows are public like favorites are. So you do it for fics you like, but are too embarrassed to broadcast it to the world.
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>>2475749
But how? As much as I want to, I can't just throw a bunch of rope play in, can I?...
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>>2475839
You can always write a side story companion of questionable canonicity.
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>>2475847
Wouldn't it just make more sense to write an unrelated oneshot?
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>>2475858
What's the difference? If the author wants to write smut of the characters of the main story, let it happen.
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>>2475703
iirc, it's this one.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12624254/1/El-reloj-del-drag%C3%B3n-del-tiempo

Dunno how explicit it might be, since I can't read it, just going off what I've heard from others. Hopefully, you can enjoy it?
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>>2475922
Ah. That one is the best LWA fic in the entire fandom, but there's no rape. It wasn't a possessed Diana either, but the demon pretending to be her and forced a kiss from Akko.
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>>2475717
I like bruises. Link to your work?
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So memes aside, is there any point to having a tumblr if you only write? I've looked at it and it seems like it's all about the visual. Which is fine, but I don't draw or anything like that.
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>>2478652
It's just a blog site. You can make a blog for whatever the hell you want, and plenty of people do that for their own writing.
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>>2478652
I've tried it and can't seem to get into it, but I do crave some kind of writing community that I thought tumblr could provide.
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>>2478652
It's useful if your fandom is on tumblr. Authors use it to talk to each other and bounce ideas around, artists who talk to you on there are more likely to draw fanarts as a thank you gift, which always boost the readership for your fic.
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>>2478669
Or you can get death threats and doxxed if they think your stuff is problematic
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>>2478656
Yeah, I like tumblr for finding other people interested in the same fandoms, but nothing's come by to replace livejournal. I was on Dreamwidth for a while but it's not the same.
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>>2475922
I love this fic!
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>>2478691
If you're an oversensitive snowflake whom can get affected by those things, why are you even on 4chan? Turn off anonymous comment if you're fragile.

Tumblrinas actually hate those who "police" fictional content so they'll tell your harrassers off for you. I was in a big incest fandom (Elsanna) and that's what happened to me at least. With an exception for NSFW loli, you can write incest, rape, guro, vore, scat, watersport, etc with minimal harrassment.
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>>2478703
People don't seem to understand that tumblr is not an SJW shithole any more than 4chan is /pol/. Tumblr just has no neat containment boards to cordon off parts of the userbase.
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>>2478716
Depends on the fandom. RWBY fandom on tumblr seems dogshit
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>>2478721
All fandoms are horrible in one or another. If they're not yet, just give it time. The only way to avoid this is just stick to your group of friends and try to avoid the drama next door.
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>>2478726
>your group of friends
Friends? What is this, a kind of food?
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>>2478721
All fandom is dogshit

The reason is simple; everyone sees fandom as their place to belong and therefore expect everyone to share their exact ideas, values and priorities in the works they're fans of. So when people don't, they feel personally betrayed that the place where they belong are rejecting their values and ideas. Either a bitter war of arguments or a schism into separate groups of fans follows, usually starting with the former and if disagreements are too big or personalities/cliques too strong it develops to the latter. Both sides now talk shit about the other forever. The end.
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>>2478728
No, those are friends with benefits.
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>>2478698
It seems like in the past it was easier to make those smaller internet communities where people came together to do certain things, and these days it's more difficult. Or maybe I've just gotten bitter. I still don't have anywhere but /u/ to talk about yuri writing though.
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>>2478698
>livejournal

Fucking hell, the amount of /u/ stories there....all will be lost, because it's basically impossible to get any of it in batches.
Or did something change in recent years?
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>>2478752
>impossible go get in batches
What does this even mean? What's stopping you from archiving the whole website?
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>>2478746
You're just bitter now. Fandom and drama are mutually inclusive since the beginning of time, unless it's so small that there's barely 10 fanfics of it. It's happening everyday day on 4chan, shit.

If you don't want drama, avoid drama. Ignore insults, block harrassers, walk away from heating arguments, only have fun on-topic talk with productive members you know. It's not that hard. The only people who complain about drama are actually drama kings themselves or busybodies who want to hear all about the latest gossips to make themselves feel superior. If you're truly drama-free, you shouldn't even notice what's going on most of the time.
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>>2478778

NA here.

Some stories/entries are friend-locked, or accounts get purged or abandoned/forgotten. In some cases they're outright deleted (fembuck's LJ was there one month and gone the next).

Others aren't tagged, so unless spiders crawl it and put it in search results on Google etc, it's hard to find.

And if they're friend-locked, it doesn't matter if you downloaded the entire site, you'll never be able to read those entries.

LJ is structured like a clique; if you don't know the right people, or people have left, you can't get to what/where you want.
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>>2479240
I fail to see how that's any different from deleted fics on FFN. Plus if you can't read a fic due to friendlock in the first place, you won't be able to see it whether or not the site remains up or goes down under in the future. In other words, zero loss.

Archive everything in a mirror site like people did with shoujoai.net and call it a day.

Speaking of which, somebody should do the same thing with FFN. It's so annoying to see deletion, be it due to authors or site-wide purge. That whole site should be backed up every two weeks or something.
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>>2479327
Most deletions I see on FFN nowadays are from the authors getting bored of a story and getting rid it so nobody would ask for more.
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>>2479328
Depending on the fandom. Incest fandoms, like Elsanna for example, have a very high deletion rate (1 every 7 fic has been deleted according to my calibre archive), and most of it is due to suspicion of friends/family discovering their incest shipping, have been harrassed by incest-haters online or offline (an author was even physically assaulted after a bitch sniffed around into her computer without permission and saw her Word files), or suddenly become disgusted by incest after years of writing hardcore sibling sex.
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>>2479240
>fembuck
Now that's a name I haven't seen in years, since I was in the Gossip Girl and Merlin fandoms. Is she still writing?
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>>2479373
She last uploaded something in September.
https://archiveofourown.org/users/fembuck/pseuds/fembuck
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>>2474565
Very detailed descriptions of the mouth because of my vore fetish.
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>>2479405
I wonder if she would be interested in writing for Supercorp. After all, it's Katie McGrath. Lesbians love Katie McGrath.
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What's your fanfic red flags?
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>>2479913
>crossover
>OC
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>>2479913
Alpha / Beta / Omega stuff. Worse than coffee shop AUs.
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>>2479913
>harem
>omegaverse
>self insert
>oc
>completely mundane modern high school AU of a fantasy series
>"not good at writing summaries"
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>>2479929
>crossover
Absolutely nothing wrong with this.
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>>2479929
This looks cute, source?Can't find one since it's cropped.
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>>2479913
>OC
>Survival/Zombie/Hunger-Games-esque AU
>100 fucking tags for every little thing, including dumb comments
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>>2479913
>typos in the summary
>"it gets better; I swear"
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>>2479982
>It doesn't.
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>>2479913
>OC
>first POV
>inane crossover
>babbling in the tags
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>>2479913
>rape
I fucking hate those who don't specify if it's het rape or just noncon between the shipped characters.
>trans
Surefire way to ruin futa.
>tagging everything under the sun
>using tags as comments
>self-insert
>OC
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>>2479913
Never click on
>rape
>self-insert
>double futa, scat, watersport, fart, fat kink
>over 6 character tags
>"it gets better I swear"
>retarded, defendive, or long-winded summary

Click on but immediately close:
>what is paragraph
>what is dialogue-narration
>what is POV
>confusing speaker order

Drop after 1-3 chapters:
>OOC
>OCs central to the plot
>prominent het (there's a point where yuri endgame just doesn't worth it)
>author obviously has a hard-on for male characters despite shipping yuri

Nasty surprises that warrant death threats:
>het rape/rape past
>het sex/implication of het sex to make a child
>het endgame

Things I'm cool with:
>noncon/dubcon
>male love rival
>futa
>prominent OCs as parents/servants
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>>2480061
>het endgame
Does this actually happen?
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>>2479913
>slowburn
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>>2480083
Yep. I've run into several fics that fall into one of these 3 categories: 1) an elaborate troll fic intentionally pissed off shippers of a yuri ship they disapprove of and author even admitted it in the final A/N. 2) author decides on a bad end for maximum angst. 3) author has a change of heart and switches ship.
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>>2479913
>futa
>omegaverse
>crossover
>typo in tags, summary or title
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>>2479913
Horrible paragraph spacing. That hurts my eyes so much and it's a sign of the writer being inexperienced since all the good ones know that ffnet and ao3 mess up uploads and they need to take extra time to fix that. I don't mind rambling in the tags to a certain point because I've seen even good writers do this and if I had minded more I would have missed out on a really good fic for one of my recent shows.
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>>2479913
Futa, trans/nonbinary/agender/snowflake shit and genderbend.
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>>2479913
>1st person pov
>terrible paragraph spacing
>anything that has a bajillion different fandoms tagged to it
>english is not my first language and it really shows
>any sort of modern AU without powers
>side couples that are terrible ships

Also this >>2480061
anon has pretty great taste and standards, even if they're not 100% /u/ approved. For the most part. Curious why they like futa but not double futa.
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>>2479969
Crossover means crossover ships. I've yet to see that done well.

>>2479977
Can't remember, but there was a muscly maid that takes care of that loli and age gap ensues... or would have if that series had more than one chapter translated.
Either way, 'maid age gap' should get you something.
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Is there an erotic way to write a scene where two girls undress each other? I tried using detailed descriptions of their bodies to highlight the lust, but I'm worried that it sounds about as passionate as undressing a mannequin. I can't really think of much dialogue to break it up, unless they suddenly start talking dirty to each other, which would be weird. Unless this whole thing is just a quagmire and perhaps I should just get it over with quickly so they can get to fucking.
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>>2480495
You could try focusing on their reactions more.
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>>2480497
This. The girl's reactions as the other girl's treasures are unveiled can be really sexy.
Also try describing the fabrics as they slide off the girls' bodies.
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>>2480495
Anything can be written in an erotic manner. I dare you to prove me wrong
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Self-harm doesn't make me close the fic automatically, but I have never seen it done right. Most of the times it just feels like mexican novela-tier drama.
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>>2480609
>implying mexican novela's aren't kino
I get your point though.
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>>2480495
It's not about the details of the body, but the emotion behind the gaze. What does a flash of boobs make the other girl feel? Does she blush and have a mental shut down or fight against herself trying to play it cool or show unabashed lust? Does she do anything about it? What happen when her eyes trail down? How does her facial expression and behaviour affect the undressed girl?
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>>2479913
>First Person PoV
>Totally fucked (or no) formatting
>OCs in romances with established characters
>Blunt narration to establish character relationships
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Could people elaborate a bit on why OCs are so horrible? I hate it when OCs take up space they don't have to, but I see no reason not to include them in supporting roles.
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>>2481233
I think others are referring to Canon/OC subjects or fics where OCs are the focus, not background characters or supporting roles to further the plot. In the fanbase I'm in, there are fans that write OC-oriented fics where the the setting is borrowed from the series and it's frustrating after a while.
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>>2481233
Irrelevant OCs are necessary. If you're writing a bigger fic, you're going to need the bodyguards, lawyers, cooks, senators, secretaries, lieutenants, doctors, investigators and whatnot to prop up the world, and trying to shove in canon characters in all of the roles is just dumb.
People tend to dislike OCs in general because the term reminds them of the "donut steel" variety where thirteen-year-olds come up with these super cool characters which are totally badass and date the main characters and so forth.
There's nothing inherently wrong with OCs being important, but there is nothing inherently wrong with most of the red flags mentioned either. People just skip them because the majority of them are edgy piles of shit, and the few good ones aren't worth the effort. On top of that, people read fanfics largely because they like the characters. A new literalwho is a hard sell for the audience who is looking for a story about characters they are already invested in.
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>>2481267
>There's a reason why most futa fans prefer futa instead of strap-on/dildo.
Why is this an either/or? Give me neither every day of the week.

Strap-on/dildo for example, they are very useful for spicing up your sex life or for some women who have trouble getting off with their clits, but there's nothing really romantic about them.
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>>2481233
Here's an example of OCs in supporting roles done right: Telanu's Truth and Measure has OC lawyers, doctors, coworkers, bosses and various others I can't remember. They flesh out the story wonderfully but never take away from the rightful attention due to the canon characters.
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>>2481233
I read fanfics because I want to see more of the characters I love, not to read about someone's random shitty character.
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Anyone read any /u/ fics about Quiet?
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>>2482056
The MGS character?
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>>2482056
The movie about the deaf chick?
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>>2482100
MGS character, yes.
>>2482103
What movie about what deaf chick?
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>>2481135
Alright, thanks. It's from the point of view of Ms. Perfect Honor Student undressing her athletic friend, so I was focusing on the athlete's physique, but now I think I'll focus on how the MC feels upon seeing her friend naked. It's supposed to be a after they make out as a prelude to sexy time so I can definitely write about how she gets increasingly turned on as she unwraps more of her gift.
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The Holy Grail of fanfiction:
>well-written and everyone's in-character
>long
>complete
>pairings you like
>has at least a semblance of a plot
What are your Holy Grails?
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>>2482488
>in-character

I think the more likely, and probably better criteria, is that characters fit their fanon personalities

"In character" is meaningless for most series once you're off the canon grid.
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>>2482488
Well i got a number of fics that i really li-
>complete

Nevermind. I got nothing that people haven't heard of a bajillion times before in the fandoms for the fics.
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>>2482493
If 99% readers agree that a fic is in character and only a butthurt minority disagrees, I think we have a clear case of fact instead of "both opinions are valid" gray areas. Many popular fics are widely recognized as OOC by their own fans. You sound like you equate popularity with "its fans must think this is in-character!", which would explain this retarded generalization.
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>Bleach has all these hot bitches.
>Barely any good /u/ fics.
What a waste.
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>>2482488
The majority of my holy grails are incomplete or under 20k words, damn.

ShizNat of Mai Hime:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4004316/1/Windows-of-the-Soul

Elsanna of Frozen:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10684708/1/Locked-Away
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10807420/1/An-Hysterical-Situation

NanoFate of Nanoha:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10026363/1/Friends-With-Benefits
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6590510/1/El-Legado
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7250078/1/Ahora-y-para-Siempre
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10872908/1/The-perks-of-jealousy
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5807193/1/AlternativeS

Diakko of Little Witch Academia:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12624254/1/El-reloj-del-dragón-del-tiempo
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>>2482488
Well, I can't vouch for the in-characterness nor the completeness or the pairings as 'it's complicated' in the sense that the maingirl was up untill recently in denial about her lust for her best friend who in turn is so not over Angleterrorists killing her True Love that she's taken up a bit of necromancy to either revenge his death or reverse his death. Probably both with some collateral damage in the process.

Pretty based quality otherwise tho. Gonna save and perhaps even print overlady after it's done.
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>>2482608
Another good ShizNat fic for those interested http://archiveofourown.org/works/428465/chapters/722148
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>>2482608
>>2482631
Also, J. Peterson (author of Locked Away) of FFnet has really good ShizNat fics.
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>>2482488
>complete
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>>2482606
Are there ANY decent shonens with a reasonable yuri following? Because I can't think of even one at the moment.
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>>2485980
Negima.
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>>2485980
I generally need female characters to actually meaningfully interact with each before I can ship them so that means nearly every shonen is a bust for me, yuri shipping wise.
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>>2486756
Sakura and Ino from Naruto?
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>>2482488
>>long
Careful
there are some fanfics that are hundreds of thousands of words long
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>>2486799
>hundreds of thousands
Sounds like a good afternoon. Now millions, that's something to take pause at.
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>>2486801
I know that there are millions of words long fics in existence, but are there any that are /u/ relevant?
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>>2486817
I think there might be a HP and or Sleeping Beauty one but fics that long tend to be ~slow burn~ coded to hide the fact that it's an ice burn kind of fic.
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>>2486827
I like slow burn fics when the romance is a side plot to an actual plot that happens to also be good.

Also what's and ice burn fic?
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>>2486833
I like that too, but sometimes slow burn gets to the point where it's forgotten or not adequately paced or developed. Like so much plot will happen and like they aren't even close to receiving affection from each other i.e. cuddles/lingering touches.

Ice burn is kind of a joke term. A slow burn romance that's so slow it might as well be on ice. A romance that's slower than slow burn.
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>>2486834
In my opinion, if a story goes over 30 chapters without the romance coming in, it's a bust.
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>>2486799
>hundreds of thousands words
>long
Bitch please.

>>2486817
The most famous is Inter Nos of Mai Hime, also the most well written and most popular fic in that fandom.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3816271/1/Inter-Nos
Mainly ShizNat, but it has KnM's Chikane/Himeko and Stopani's Shizuma/Nagisa as secondary character too.
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>>2486834
Fair enough. My current favorite fic is ~420k words in with the MC being stuck on trying to work up the courage to confess to her /u/ love interest after recently accepting her feelings. Though there is the minor caveat of the MC currently kinda sorta dating someone else, but he lives on an entirely different continent and neither trusts the other even remotely and have yet to touch one another when there weren't two layers of plate armor in the way.
>>2486843
That's interesting I suppose. Though I've yeat to get into Mai Hime
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>>2486844
>on an entirely different continent and neither trusts the other even remotely and have yet to touch one another when there weren't two layers of plate armor in the way.
I recognize that very specific wording of a scenario. Tell me, has the eldest sister joined the MC's side and is the mother showing hints of joining?
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>>2486846
Eldest sister tried to commit suicide by murdering her younger self to keep herself from setting into motion the events that gets the middle child turned into a vampire. Thus she got sent home to recover from that episode and also from stealing our MC's Evil, which lead to our MC temporarily becoming Good and fully realizing her feelings because Evil makes her tsun as fuck.

Mother dearest was least seen beginning to have a nice chat with the spymistress, and in general the recent events were way too loud and attracting attention.
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>>2486847
Curses, well here's to hoping Mother dearest is playing the very long game and will join in a typical "less" evil run like in the first game. However, yes. Your fic is a very good example of a nice slow burn that actually has romantic fire.
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>>2486848
I sincerely doubt she will join in on our MC's shenanigans, and in general I believe that our MC is going to abandon her delusional Evil alignment once she gets in her love interest's skirts. Eventually they'll take the throne and Mother dearest, being a royalist, won't' fuck with them.
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>>2486849
I'll agree that Mother dearest probably won't get involved, or heavily involved. I could see her helping in subtle ways, as for MC abandoning evil. Eh, maybe overt evil. I could see it more like she'll "retire" once the coup is taken care of and her love interest is back on the throne where, surprise surprise, she becomes the princess consort. Middle Sister's already a vampire but lives a more "innocent" life which could convince MC that the evil she should strive for is more practical in the way of safeguarding her love interest's kingdom. She, the MC, just has to rationalize it to herself in some manner of protecting her love from any and all threats. forever.
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>>2486855
I mean abandon delusional evil for pragmatic evil. This princess is pretty much a loss cause for redemption given the necromancy and her family history. Likewise our MC's own family history, all of her character development thus far, and the predictions way back at the beginning of the fic all point towards such a final alignment.
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>>2486857
Ah well then that we can agree on. In that case, I put forth that Mother dearest helps in more than just subtle ways. She ends up secretly teaching MC through a disguise/medium that keeps her identity secret and near the ends Mother steps forward and reveals she's been MC's advisor spooking her other advisor.

How's the uh side party of heroes? That girl who has to be a reverse trap occasionally getting together with the nerd mage on her team or is that just wishful thinking on my part?
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>>2486849
Different anon here, but do you think our MC's actually got a chance of getting together with her /u/ love interest? The last chapter I read was kind of depressing in that she was just about to finally confess after surviving some harrowing events, but then her love interest intercepts her by gushing about resurrecting her True Love (who is decidedly not our MC). I felt pretty bad for her.
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>>2486859
I doubt Mother dearest will help knowingly at all. She's very much a Hero and not possessing of any of the sort of flexibility as the MC and her other blood relatives have. Hell I'm certain that she is not yet aware of the MC's current position and she's unlikely to get anything super helpful out of her spymistress.

Also yeah, that's definitely wishful thinking. The heroes are pretty thoroughly set in there being only one pairing within the group. Hell I'm pretty sure reverse trap doesn't even actually like girls and only puts up a front for her dad.
>>2486863
I don't think that the true love system is fully understood yet, but there's no way that the dead prince plotline is going to go swimmingly for the princess, and our MC will be in place to take advantage but not really because it's probably treason to take advantage of royalty like that.

Also you've missed a few heroic interludes that are really good if that is the last chapter you've read.
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>>2486863
Other anon that hasn't kept up, but considering everything with Necromancy and LI's willingness to use it there's some signs. Very likely signs that resurrected True Love may come back wrong or just shocked at the "depravity" that LI went to that could lead to a forced decision on LI's part. LIke getting rid of MC who's been nothing but helpful to go back to a likely soulless True Love or realize (res'd)True Love isn't the same and he shouldn't've been brought back to life. There are many delightful possibilities that could happen from LI making use of necromancy because when has it ever gone well when resurrection is some hard to obtain thing?
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>>2486817
Dissonance is closing that mark.
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>>2486869
I'm pretty sure that shit is gonna go wrong and that the LI will choose our MC over her dead prince, as our MC has done quite a lot for her and is actively looking out for signs of the LI going off the deep end due to recent time-travel shenanigans.

Also if you are not caught up, and if any of the others in this conversation are not caught up, now is an excellent time to get caught up as the fic went on a bit of a hiatus while the author cleared up their other shit.
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>>2486876
Fine, what's it called?
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>>2486880
Overlady. It's a crossover between Familiar of Zero and Overlord (the vidya that is basically evil pikmin, not the LN/animu)

It's a rather slow burn fic that doesn't get gay for quite some time, but the actual plot is well worth it.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/4193346/chapters/9471504
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>>2486881
>Ao3
When did the author make the switch? I was reading it on ffn last time.
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>>2486883
they have accounts on both sites. I just happen to have the AO3 link handy.

Also updates first come on sufficient velocity, which is where a great deal of discussion goes on and you get to see the achievements.
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>>2486844
>Though I've yeat to get into Mai Hime
Inter Nos is so well written that I'd say you can read it first to get into Mai Hime. It's both plot and romance heavy. Ethnewinter is a literary genius, I don't know what she's doing with fanfiction instead of making money publishing.
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>>2486865
>>2486869
>>2486876
I'm not concerned over whether love interest can resurrect her True Love and live happily ever after together with him (there's just way too many hints in the story that it'll go terribly), but I was thinking that her continued fixation on True Love at what could have been a pivotal point for our MC was a sign for the MC to give up on her and pursue other options.

She did mention that she'll just stay with the guy if it doesn't work out with love interest, after all. And I'm not sure how it's ever going to work out between them when the route that love interest is about to take is set up for blood and tears. But it'll be a pleasant surprise if things do turn out contrary to my expectations.
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>>2486843
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3816271/1/Inter-Nos
A million words. Holy jesus.
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>>2486885
>1 million words with no end in sight
>literary genius
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>>2486888
Her Good self said that, and the problem is that her Good self is unlikely to be attractive to the guy and her Evil self isn't stupid enough to go any further than she already has because he cant' be trusted any more than he can be lit on fire. Which isn't very much because magical protections.

Also her advisor seems to be pulling strings to get the MC together with the /u/ option. And there are other characters that are likely to help her out, so there's that.
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>>2486896
>good literature must be under 1 million words
What?
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>>2486927
Good literature must justify its word count. What do you think, does the author of a fanfic about Japanese schoolgirls really have a story that needs a million words to tell, or does the author simply have no goddamn idea of what she's doing?
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>>2486885
Eh, even though I basically grew into yuri with it, it's got a lot of issues. I mean the prose as I recall was actually fine, and I enjoyed the roman history lessons before every chapter in the form of vocabulary. But even though it's to my preference, the fic still really has an issue with succinctness and overly lengthy, flowery prose bloating the word-count. The main characters even at the time got a lot of criticism for being a bit too super speshul amazing tall beautiful smart wise etc etc. Unfortunate that the fic was finally starting to capitalize on the actual personal faults and issues of Shizuru basically just as it ground to a halt update-wise. And while I enjoyed the relationship-dynamics at the time, I feel like my tastes might have changed enough that I wouldn't enjoy them as much today.

Also, the villains are a bit too dumb for my tastes. Even the smart ones are only smart relative to the absolute morons around them, while still holding no candle to the protagonists or main supporting cast - as I recall basically the only reason they were even remotely threatening was A: Shizuru-haters back home tripping her up constantly, and B: ethnewinter's refreshing dedication to actual logistics and realistic passage of time meaning the main characters couldn't be everywhere and deal with everything but actually had to prioritize and deal with setbacks in other places.

>>2486896
It's literary genius because only genius fanfic authors understand that more words = better. I don't even give fics with less than 50k words a chance, they're over before I even get to start enjoying them.

I'll happily read shorter things when they are, you know, actual acclaimed books, essays or short-stories from real authors with great grasp of the language. I mean, I grew up on Hemingway and Christie novels, and those are relatively tiny pockets, it's what I'm used to reading. I can actually get something out of those. But lesbian fics of fluff need to be lengthy.
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>>2486934
See, that's the opposite of my perspective on it. When I read 'real' literature that's truly beautiful prose or challenging ideas, so much of my reading time goes to actively engaging with that work. Thinking about it, throwing it around in my mind, reading a bit then putting it down so I can digest it. 4k words of a great author might last me several hours.

On the other hand when I read lesfic, that's not gonna happen. 99% of it is really badly written and I'm just there for the sinful guilty pleasures of romance-scenes, and even the rest isn't terribly evocative or thought-provoking. So, since I have no urge to sit around absorbing the fic like I do other works, I keep reading instead. I get through them many, many times faster. So they need to be a lot longer to give me anywhere near the same kind of satisfaction. Truly interesting and rewarding books are replaced with truly sugary pandering romance in far larger quantities. It's like how gourmet meals have tiny portions while fast-food come in enormous sizes.
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>>2486940
>fast-food come in enormous sizes
Ginormous sizes are just plain awful, though. They're full of tasteless filler, and once you're sated, eating is nothing more than a chore.
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>>2486945
Not exactly the comparison I was going for, mpre that tje former is meant to be consumed slowly to savour every taste and leave you hungry for more while the latter is meant to be indulgently scarfed down until you're full.
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>>2486785
Lmao, Naruto is a steaming pile of shit that I got tired of years ago. I only stuck it out for the world building.
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>>2486937
Let's agree to disagree. To this day I still haven't found a fanfic or published book that can compete with Inter Nos in military strategy and political struggle. It's intellectual and thrilling instead of angsty and edgy. If you aren't into laws and politics, I guess it's not for you. But don't even try to bash on the villians. It's got all spades: Reito is mostly neutral and opportunistic, Haruka is endearingly silly but good-hearted and not totally stupid, Nagi is mysterious and smart, Alyssa is antagonistic but cool, other kings are just normal mid-bosses.

Shizuru is Ceasar. If you're pissed off by an "overly successful genius," you might as well deny Ceasar (or Alexander the Great) ever existed. The story is an elaborate historical details on how Shizuru came to power through various military campaigns (and most likely will be killed after achieving her dream).
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>>2480061

Whats the different between noncon and rape?
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>>2487150
I interpret noncon as "porn rape," i.e. she resists but secretly likes it and enjoys the ride by the end of it.
Real rape, on the other hand, is a traumatizing event and a lot of people don't want to see that sort of suffering inflicted upon the characters.
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>>2487150
I don't see the difference between the two personally. At least with dubcon, that can be used to describe characters being under the influence of say, sex pollen, while having sex. Hmm, in the case of a person being given the choice between death and having sex with someone and that person choosing the latter option, technically they gave consent but they were coerced. So maybe some people would use a separate term like noncon for that.
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>>2486844
Dont try to describe a story to me or my boards thread ever again. Sicko.
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>>2487150
Noncon is one half of your OTP rapes the other half. Rape is another character rapes one (or both) person of your OTP, and is typically het rape.

I thought this is common knowledge in fanfiction world. How the hell have you guys been tagging your noncon fics? Just put "rape" on it and call it a day, scaring away people who thinks it's het rape?
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>>2487153
>"porn rape"
Isn't that also known as rapeplay or am I just misremembering?
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>>2487218
Sort of but not really. Rapeplay is the specific kink where people pretend to rape or be raped. Noncon is the "my hips are moving on their own!" variety where it's "real" but not actually bad.
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>>2487153
>>2487166
No. No no no. Jesus Christ.

Noncon is non-consensual sex between the main pairing of the fic. The victim doesn't have to like it. It can be brutal and can lead to bad end.

Dubcon is dubious consent (manipulating, hynotizing, drugging, coercing) sex. Also between the main pairing of the fic.

Rape is any non-consensual sex not between the main pairing. Either somebody else raped one of the main girls, one of the main girls raped somebody else, or secondary characters rape each other without touching the main girls.

Noncon and dubcon are for shipping purpose. Rape is evil, used for gratuitious angst or cuckold fetish.
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>>2487228
>Rape is any non-consensual sex not between the main pairing.
how the fuck does that make any sense
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>>2487218
Rape play is a form of BDSM. Not what that anon was talking about. That anon's guess was incorrect as well, so don't pursue that line of conversation.
>>2487223
That's not what noncon is.
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>>2487239
>non-consensual sex isn't rape
You're not making sense. Why would it matter if it happens between the focal characters or not?
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>>2486934
>Good literature must justify its word count
Exactly.
>does the author have any idea what she's doing?
She fucking does. People don't call her a literary genius for no reason. Why don't you read it and judge for yourself, or ask for more information instead of talking like a condescending prick making a fool of yourself jumping to conclusion?

Inter Nos is an epic alternate historical hero adventure, detailing the raise of not!Ceasar Shizuru from a mere general to emperor of the not!Rome Hime, how she organized military campaigns and play political mind games. Ever read anything of this scope, or is your brain too small to comprehend anything more complicated than a shitty flower shop AU?
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>>2487252
Jesus christ, are you really trying to say someone's a pseud while being a pseud because they contest your proclamation that a certain writer's not what you say they are?
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>>2487208
make me.
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>>2486940
Inter Nos is real literature. Professional world building, prose, characterization, and magnificient plotting on a huge scale. You seriously don't need to know Mai Hime and Mai Otome to read the fic.

It's simply more rewarding to know the characters are in-characters if you know the show.
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>>2487256
What?
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>>2487242
I don't think anon is saying non-con isn't rape. Just that that specific term is used to tag fics for people who are into that sort of thing.
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>>2487242
Are you fucking seriously asking why? If I want to search for a NanoFate noncon fic, I want Fate rapes Nanoha or vice versa, not for fics with Nanoha got raped by the ferret. What the fuck is so hard to understand???
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>>2487263
The terminology makes zero sense and I have not seen it differentiated like that anywhere.
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>>2487264
Then you've been living under a rock, grandma. The Frozen fandom does this since it has quite a high concentration of noncon and rape fics. I've seen Overwatch and Nanoha doing this as well, but it's harder to come by this fetish in these two fandoms.
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>>2487264
The terminology makes perfect sense. People looking for fics of their OTP don't want to see their OTP get raped by someone else, it's not hard to see why they need different tags to filter out trash.
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>>2487259
Inter Nos has good prose, but there should be no reason for it not to have an ending at 20% of the current word count. The author out-GRRMs GRRM, which is not a good thing.
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It's interesting how the strengths of F/F fandom are also its weaknesses. F/F fandom is great because it's mostly made up of queer women producing and consuming the content, so the works can be more authentic than M/M stuff which is mostly produced by straight women. But F/F is also smaller than M/F and M/M by a large margin because there are far fewer queer women in fandom than straight ones.
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>>2487275
>The author out-GRRMs GRRM
What's the body count?
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>>2487452
i think that anon was talking about a story using more words than it needs. from when i read the GoT books years ago, there was definitely some fucking bloat. parts of those books were an absolute fucking slog to get through.

i can't say anything about inter nos because there's no way im going to get through a million words of it. i've tried to read the first chapter a couple times but it doesn't grab me. i'm actually not a big fan of the vocab bits at the top. i prefer being able to use context or description to figure things out. but to each their own.


somewhat related, i remember reading a bit of advice that was roughly "if you're bored writing it, your readers will be bored reading it." think that holds true?
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>>2487448
>F/F fandom is great because it's mostly made up of queer women producing and consuming the content
It is?
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>>2487475
We're all little girls here.
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>>2487534
What if I'm the oneesan?
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>>2487542
Then the lonely cakes will rape you.
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>>2487475
What fandoms have you been in where that wasn't the case?
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Do you guys enjoy reading multipairing fanfics, or do you prefer a fic that focuses on one pairing?

In the fandom I'm reading, it's not uncommon to see writers doing multipairing fanfics. Unfortunately, I can't manage to get invested in them when I only truly care about one pairing.
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>>2487673
It depends on whether or not I hate the side pairing. If it's a side pairing I can't stand, I might choose not to continue the fic. If it's a pairing I don't mind, I'll probably read the fic if it's written well and my otp gets the most focus. The last good, 50,000+ word fic I read my otp had the most focus but the side pairing got some attention and povs too. In fact, the fic was more gen than solely focused on my otp. It wasn't irritating because the writer was good and I was impressed at the way they juggled the different characters.
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>>2487673
I prefer when it focuses in only 1 pairing
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>multichapter fic
>one of the characters is revealed to be trans several chapters in
Why don't you use your fucking tags? I dropped it so fast, what a waste of time.
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>>2475722
apologies in advance anon, i've only got one fic up so far. but i do have another one in the works that features proper use of a stripper clip. probably will get it done mid dec/early jan.

https://archiveofourown.org/users/bruhxism/

i got up this morning and played with my bolt. it's a good day.
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>>2487673
As long as it's all the pairs that I ship, absolutely. Too bad I rarely see that. If a fic contains a side pairing I'm lukewarm to, it will be annoying; if the side pairing is my NOTP, I'll refuse to read.

Take LWA fandom for example. I ship Diakko, will tolerate fics with Chariox as side pairing but won't be happy about it, and refuse to read anything with Sulotte.
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>>2488830
What Diakko fics can you recommend?
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>>2488838
Not the same anon, but https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12486574/1/Learning-to-Fly is the best.
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I've been wondering this for a while, why does the OP insist on using the exact same Xena fanart for every single thread?

I mean, how many decades has it been since Xena was relevant? Do they have Kirk/Spock threads in /y/?
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>>2488997
tradition
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>>2488997
>insist
Has anyone strongly insisted? I guess for visibility if you're really trying to nitpick. You know, in-case some OP forgets to title the thread
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>>2489005
I remember a long time ago someone else tried to make a thread with a different OP and the Xena poster flipped out.
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>>2489006
You make it sound like the OP is one person. Well either way, it's gonna have to be board appropriate. If you really wanna get into it, Xena is a pretty good example of f/f fics since the show's one of the foundations for our fanfiction.
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>>2488997
Xena is always relevant in my heart.
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>>2489010
I guess fic writers are more dedicated than other parts of the fandom?
Because Mai Hime/Otome and Kannazuki no Miko are foundational series of /u/ and I rarely see threads for either anymore. Elsewhere it's whatever is popular at that moment.
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>>2489037
>I guess fic writers are more dedicated than other parts of the fandom?
They kind of have to be considering what it takes to write out something that's a novel or two lengthwise for fun. They're part of content creators for their fandoms so yeah, dedication is needed.
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>>2489006
I was one of the people who attempted to make a different OP. One in 2011, one in 2013. The obnoxious Xenafag just threw a tantrum so I don't care anymore.

>>2489010
Facts:
1) Most people here don't read Xena fanfics.
2) This is a YURI board, not lesbian. Xena fanfics are not a founder of anything here. The most recognized fanfiction fandoms since the conception of /u/ are Mai Hime and Nanoha.

I see your rabid denial style had not changed, Xenafag. Now you dare making up "the other OPs must have not been board appropriate!" and "X-xena is the founder, nobody protested it as de facto OP!" to rewrite history huh. KYS.
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>>2490262
So you must be one who has a bitchfit in every western thread.
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>>2490262
I like how you've been bearing that grudge for six years now.
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>>2490262
What the fuck.
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>>2490262
How are you this analpained?
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>>2490276
On the contrary, I advocated for western threads. /u/ is really slow and shared many fans with certain western fandoms that it made no sense to ban western content. That doesn't change the fact that this is a yuri board first and foremost. Be more intelligent and conscious about it instead of being an ungrateful dog thinking this board is lesbian general.

>>2490290
History is history, there's no shame in reciting facts. A true person with a "grude" would have pettily race you to make their own OP over the years, retard. See what happened when nobody remember history: you immediately tried to rewrite it, shifting the blame on the other party and denying all responsibilities.

Would it kill you to acknowledge your douchebagery just once? To admit that yes, there used to be many people switching up the OP to be more anime-appropriate, to be more inclusive of other series, to honour new fandoms, to have a refreshing image, but all had been pushed away by an aggressive Xenafag, who is now trying to play amnesia. And instead of addressing the point of the discussion (i.e. "people who want a different OP exist"), you focus on insulting me to derail the conversation.

I suppose it's good though, since you didn't deny what I said.
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There's a nice advantage in having a single recognizable pic be up there since it means someone using the catalog hasn't got to pick through 8 false positives when looking for this thread's infinite incarnations.

In less thread wrangling related matters here are a couple fics I've found lately:

FE Sacred Stones:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/12537848
https://archiveofourown.org/works/8690431/chapters/19923271

FFT: (Where Ramza is a girl.)
https://archiveofourown.org/works/11694090
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>>2490502
Just search for a relevant keyword like everyone else does.
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>>2490504
The relevant keyword is "fiction" and there are fanfiction.net addresses all over the catalog.
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>>2490512
Then change the OP to be actually useful and say "fanfiction general" like, again, everyone else does.
It's not rocket surgery.
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>>2490513
>general
Why not leave the wording as it is because it's fine.
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>>2490514
Because it's less convenient than a regular keyword which every other recurring thread on the site uses.
There is literally no upside to having a random-ass name for the general because it for some arcane reason uses an inferior method of recycling the same OP image and these two aren't even mutually exclusive.
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>>2490515
You're saying to use general over just fanfiction which is already in the title. Everything's fine, I think you need to take a step back and calm down.
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>>2490519
>You're saying to use general over just fanfiction which is already in the title.
hmmm, I wonder why that would be usef—
>The relevant keyword is "fiction" and there are fanfiction.net addresses all over the catalog.

I'm not the anon who started the chain. I'm just a passerby pointing out that there is zero (0) upside in keeping using the current name because it is objectively inferior.
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>>2480495

Danielle tried not to look at the silky bra Jen was wearing as she slowly and gently removed her shirt. The pink straps of her bra hung over her shoulders in a way that dared here gaze to drop, but it would be improper. Instead, she looked directly at Jen, and regretted it as they both knew exactly how each other felt.

Jen reached up to help remove her shirt, but was stopped by Danielle's wordless shake of her head. Slowly, the shirt came off and as Danielle leaned over to remove it entirely, Jen smiled on the inside and move her arms back a little, making Danielle lean even closer inwards, almost touching her.

She could almost kiss her, or maybe nibble on her neck at this distance, especially as Danielle was ever so focused on trying not to focus too much on Jen's pink bra.

The shirt was thrown away haphazardly, and with an awkward, pregnant pause, Danielle held Jen's wrists and pulled them behind her.

"M-my bra," she muttered at the blonde, looking away. "It's... It's a hook."

Jen felt for the hook and with both her hands slowly undid it. "So's mine," she whispered with a hot, wet breath into Danielle's ear.
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Clexa has finally been uploaded in its entirety. I'll get the zip file up sometime this week, and hopefully get an anime fandom or two up as well.

https://mega.nz/#F!oaphAAaZ!6FnZFfH2f-Vx5d9A47pSow

Reminder: there are now ten days left till Femslash Big Bang finishes. Hope anyone who signed up isn't cutting it close to the deadline like me.
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>>2490262
>>2490394
even for a fanfiction thread this is some next level autism
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Is ffn getting server troubles or some shit? Twice tonight I couldn't connect despite my net being fine.
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>>2490394
>See what happened when nobody remember history: you immediately tried to rewrite it, shifting the blame on the other party and denying all responsibilities.

this is fucking amazing. Never change, /u/
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>>2490771
Please be aware enough that one delusional fool doesn't equal the entire board
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>>2490641
Thanks Hoarder anon, hope your move was pleasant.
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Where do I pay someone to translate japanese fics?
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>>2490502
Funnily enough I'm just after starting a replay of the gba FE games. I'm not on Sacred Stones yet, but I went on a hunt for Lyn/Florina fic and was pleasantly surprised to find this long gem. Hope some of you enjoy it as much as I did. There's some canon het and (practically) canon yaoi too, but it's primarily about the girls getting together.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/9262781
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>>2490775
Yeah but where else can I get someone calling people ungrateful dogs and waxing poetic about an internet argument from six years ago? And in a yuri fanfiction thread. Every anon makes this place special.
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The new prompt table is up on Femslashficlets!

The language of flowers!

Make your claims here, or just use it for ideas:

https://femslashficlets.dreamwidth.org/164356.html
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Has anyone read Root Cause by kesdax? I'm a little wary about the 'Attempted rape/non-con' tag. It's gonna be ending real soon (only epilogue left) but it's close to 400k words and while I really, really love Root/Shaw I don't have that much time to read.
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>>2491800 Unless you're a fan of pointless angst, don't read the natural selection series. The fic had a perfect natural stopping point but kesdax decided she wanted to create some epic, and pretty much fucked up the characterization of Root in order to force the plot to continue. Then when the second perfect stopping point occurred she did the exact same thing only this time fucking up Shaw. And then again a third time. The whole middle of the series is just characters making stupid decisions for no reason other than to create more angst.
You said you loved root/shaw so you might have already read it, but Sliding Towards Chaos by andthatisterrible is probably the best shoot fic. I could find more recs if you want, but it might take some time.
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Anyone working on any fills for the Annual Femslash Kink Meme?
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>>2486785
>Sakura and Ino from Naruto

I've seen them shipped, but there are barely any stories with them. The manga focuses on Naruto and Sauske to the exclusion of pretty much everybody else, so they don't get a lot of character development.
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>>2492262
You mean the one linked above?
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>>2492235
I've read that one, yes. It is indeed one of the best ones. I've read close to 300 so I've probably read most of the good ones, but I wouldn't mind more recs, considering someone from here recommended 'Sliding Towards Chaos' which I haven't read at that time.

Have you read 'for you, for you, for you' by phwaa? That one wrecked me even if I called the twist.
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>>2464049
>>2465645
>>2468195
>>2468207
>the only place with Worm discussion on 4chan is the /u/ fanfic thread
Damn you /co/ mods, let me make Worm threads.
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>>2490641
Never actually replied to a thread before but that link you posted to all the ff stories... man I thought alot of my favorite stories were gone forever (chrmdpoet swanqueen stuff mostly) but you seriously saved the day buddy. Thanks so much for this
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>>2493701

>fanfiction
>gone forever

Over my dead body, nee-san, and this is the internet. It's only gone if you're really unlucky, or you don't know where to look ;) p.s, you're welcome. Just don't consume it all in one go. That's nearly 1gb of fanfic and I haven't even finished getting OUAT, nvm Vocaloid.

>>2461488

This is just a suggestion, but if OP wants to link the drive in the new thread like we used to link Sugoi and FFN collections, that's fine with me. You never know, it might deter nonnies from asking for the same deleted fics every now and again.
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>>2492262
I missed prompt time for this despite looking forward to it pretty much all year and even reminding myself a week before that it was coming up. I'm pretty pissed.

I'm not sure if I'm going to work on anything myself... there are some prompts that caught my eye but I don't know if I'll actually do any fills.

>>2492312
This one! https://femslash-kink.dreamwidth.org/21553.html#comments
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>>2493780
Do you just archive everything you come across? I'm realising now how much stuff I've liked over the years that has gone missing and I feel like I should be more proactive.
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>>2493967

I don't have a reliable internet connection anymore, so basically if I see a fic, I download the epub and generally read it offline. Plus I like keeping track of what I've read. But now, yeah I'm just trying to grab anything and everything I see of femslash before it's deleted.

The only other femslash-specific multi-fandom epub collection I've found had 2000 fics in it, which was a torrent, and I've already surpassed that quite easily.
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Question for /u/.

Have there been any decent urban fantasy type fanfiction, with werewolves or vampires or whatever? or even decent modern political AUs?

Fandom doesnt matter, I'm just trying to get a feel for the level of quality I'd be up against. Yes I am slightly competitive with fanfiction, and am planning to hopefully write a multi-chapter.
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Let's play with fate.
>>2494636
>>2494636
>>2494636




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