This thread is for:*Screenshots, pages, and discussion about general series, current or old, not covered by an existing thread, be it yuri, fanservice, subtext or goggles. Canon and non-canon both welcome.*News reports about things relevant to our interest*Original content that doesn't fit any specific thread topics*Pretty much anything that doesn't have or need its own thread.Previous thread: >>2504578
Yep. This one shows promise.
This is the south pole show? Nice. I already thought about picking it up, having some /u/ potential will only make it all the more enjoyable.
Girly. Gay. Fluffy. Please recommend.
>>2508440Urara, or the gay foxes from last season.
>>2508444>>2508447Loved Urara. But who are these gay foxes?
>>2508457Konohana Kitan, >>2479337I've only actually seen the first episode, but I loved the manga and everything I heard has been good.
>>2508459posting cute gay that doesn't realize she's gay yet
>>2508460>>2508457Konohana Kitan is pretty great. Everyone is paired of nicely with each other and there are legitimate progress in their relationships throughout the show (though they don't get explicit if that's what you're thinking)Give it a try if you like comfy and fluffy yuri-friendly shows like Kin-iro Mosaic
>>2508460Yuzu is such an adorb. But I haven't watched the last ep yet.
>>2508462Why is her phone's screen on when she's talking on it?
>>2508468does yours not do that?
>>2508466>>2508457Also, if you like this face :<>
>>2508462Truly best girl.
>>2508471Yeah, I thought all smartphones turned their screen off, because to there's no reason to have it on and drain the battery when your cheek is smashed against the screen. That's what the near/far sensor is for on the front of the phone, to detect when an object like your face is close to the screen. When watching TV and stuff, you can tell when the actor is using a cheap prop phone when the screen doesn't turn off when it's supposed to.
Here is a list of shows for this season that I've got earmarked for Girl's Cast/Yuri that I wish to see.Citrus (Yuri confirmed)Sora yori mo Tooi BashoToji no MikoMärchen MädchenTakunomi.Slow Start
>>2508480Yuru Camp looks promising. Both as a /comfy/ show of the season, and to provide us with some light undertones.
>>2508479the near/far sensor wasn't a thing until later smart phones though. My older ones (I think even my note 2?) were always on.
>>2508484Oh weird. My phone is 3 and a half years old and pretty cheap, so I just assumed they as all had it.
>>2508495Its one of those things they probably didn't think or care about until later, I believe it was introduced with the frontal camera. I just know because I used to hang up on people all the time by laying on it.
>>2508475The lack of smiling Yuus has been bothering me so I redid my pic a little
Tell me /u/ are we ever gonna get a new Mai Hime seriesSince LoveLive Sunshine is getting a movie will they focus back on planning a new Mai-series with an original but different staff?
>>2508472>not knowing how to rhombus..◊I could swear there was a horizontal rhombus.
>>2508518We are, in the not-so grim darkness of the somewhat far future. Specifically the year 20006.>>2508480Also there's a series with a girl that eats ramen. That one might be good.
>>2508532>>2508480>not including Pop Team EpicAlso, I just learned the episodes are going to be full-length. Don't know how to feel about that desu.
So are there any yuri manga, anime or doujin that don't deal with tragic backstories or unhealthy relationships that get romanticized?
>>2508538Yeah, a lot of them are like that.
>>2508462She does know. She just can't spit it out yet.
>>2508538So just fluffy? Plenty.Kase-san probably the most predominant
>>2508543not fluffy, just normal, realistic. A bit of drama and struggles are not bad but anime/manga often goes 11 really quick and portrays it as normal or romantic.
>>2508547Still really vague but plenty probably fall there.
Virtual youtuber shipping when
>>2508538Poor poor lips
>check boorus >a few yuri pages of a IM@S C93 doujin>looks interesting, let's see the full doujin>it's a het/rape doujin with only 2 pages of yuri-ish content
>>2508518Sunrise probably thinks the franchise isn't worth milking anymore after all this time. I wonder if they think they made a mistake abandoning HiME to focus on Otome only. They never really did much to capitalize on Shizuru's popularity either. Should have hired Nanzaki Iku to do some official stuff.
>>2508623Yuzu, what are you doing here?
Does anyone have the raws or more info for the series "My Ignorance of a World Yet Unknown" by Momono Moto?
>>2508697You can download it there https://bookwalker.jp/series/65447/list/
>>2508620>Sunrise probably thinks the franchise isn't worth milking anymore after all this time.Right now it is a great time to milk the franchise to focus on new and old characters because of nostalgia money and support. Sunrise missed a huge opportunity to focus more on ShizNat series. I believe they are too absorbed to give other franchises the spotlight or personal issues inside Sunrise that has affected their work. Also since Yuri is coming back to prominence Sunrise should add new content or OVA series like Toei did with DBS and Yu-Yu Hakusho. I'm sure Sunrise will make new content since the fans have been very loyal for more Mai-stuff but to wait for 6-7 years since Blu-ray special was released.
>>2508538Hoshikawa GinzuTwo SpiralsThe Feelings We All Must EndureBright and Cheery AmnesiaSakana no Miru Yume
So what shows are gonna be /u/ this season? Obviously there's citrus but other contenders seem to be:Pop Team EpicToji No MikoYuru CampUchuu Yori Mo Tooi BashoMarchen MadchenRamen Daisuki Koizumi-sanSlow StartTakunomi
>>2508377>>2508381Just watched the first episode of Sora yori mo Tooi Basho. Very promising in the yuri department, and good comedy as well. I'm curious to see how the second two girls join the expedition . I think mother explorer is dead (99%, 1% that she has amnesia and is living in Antarctica). Her daughter will need some yuri living when she finds out what happened to her mother.
>>2508792So far I've earmarked Sora Yori, Yuru Camp, Takunomi, Hakumei to Mikochi, Citrus and Slow Start.A busy season by my standards. Right now, funnily enough, the one I'm least excited about is Citrus.
>>2508792>even /u/ is forgetting Comic GirlsNo wonder yuri anime is dying.
>>2508891>mentions even minor subtext shows that aren't close to yuri>forgets kase-san
>>2508895Its always winter on /u/
>>2508891Didn't see that one on anichart for this season, someone probably hasn't updated yet.>>2508887Citrus seems surprisingly het for a show thats meant to be /u/. Artstyle is ugly as hell too. I'll probably just skip it.
There are too many all girls cast iyashikei/SoL this Winter season. It's a good problem to have, I guess.
I'm also going to watch the Chuunibyou movie in the hopes of it having some Shinka x Deko moments, but I'll be fine as long as it doesn't try to show either having feelings for someone else.
>>2508897If I recall, that one het kiss was forced on Mei and the dude that did that was promptly disposed of.
>>2508894Wasn't it just going to be a 30 minute OVA or some shit?
>>2508906What if it's a girl (maybe Satone)?
>already lesbian robotsI'm so happy
>>2508944Better, but still unwanted.
Finally going to read Is My Hobby Weird? What should I expect?
>>2508620I remember one of the Sunrise execs there's a new Mai-series in planning stages right now and everyone hands are tied due to multiple projecs but they believe it will be announced very soon.
>>2508559Who's the bottom on this pic then?
>Mitsuboshi Colors>Pop Team Epic>Hakumei to Mikochi>Takunomi.>All licensed by Sentai shitGreat, can't wait to see this shit everywhere again.
>>2509002>I'm ready to read porn! What should I expect?Porn?I'll never under stand the excitement people get over literally just porn.
>>2509038But it has a (flimsy) plot!
>>2509026What is 'this shit'? Ads?
>>2509002Butts.And a little bit of drama.But mostly butts.
>>2508620Takumi and Akira are a lot more popular than I expected.
>>2509026>yellow subgee, it's like watching initial d first stage again
>>2508906>but I'll be fine as long as it doesn't try to show either having feelings for someone else.Would be weird from every perspective to introduce that in the movie.
>>2509026>Actually using the official streaming servicesOh, Anon.
>>2509132>didn't watch modern yellow sub yurikino
>>2509138Doesn't matter if you use them or not, it's still terrible.
>>2509144It's crazy how bad they are at typesetting. I remember shit looking like it was trying to fly off the screen in Cheer Fruits.
>>2509144wut horriblesubs goes gg now?
>>2509148They just rip the subs and video (and meybe change the font), so can't really be blaming them. Besides, the guy behind HS (Jaka) was a prominent member of gg.
>>2509038Then why are you here? Trying to find out what you really are?
>>2509163>yuri is porn
>>2509140Calling that brainless shit kino is breaking my suspension of irony.
>>2508605>Unironically looking for yuri in Idolmaster
>>2509216>what is HarukaChihaya>what is UzukiRin
>>2509216You do realise there's like a gazillion Imas yuri doujins, right?
>>2509218Chihaya is flat.
>>2509163Romance.I don't mind people here for just porn, it's just funny when people act like a specific porn is something special or meaningful.It's literally just 40 pages of sex, no different than other porn and nothing to get so excited about.
Hey lesbos, I just wanted to drop off and say that I love my dorky dykes.
>>2509224All this does is show your ignorance.
>>2509235I mean okay?Porn isn't bad. Its just for from the pinnacle of literature, and ever acting like its anything other than porn is laughable.
>>2509222/u/ is a chestlet board
Seems like Citrus is extremely hyped up in the West. Hopefully its success can bring out more yuri
>>2509233lesbo here, we love them too share like the rest of us
>>2509233>>2509294I ain't no lesbo, but keep up the good work.
>>2509289I think it's popularity in the west doesn't correspond to it's popularity in Japan, yeah it might be the most popular yuri manga but we are really fucking niche
>>2509127If Takumi was a girl then the couple would past ShizNat. I'm looking to more AkiTaku good stuffeven where Mai has no one since Tate-kun left mysteriously
>>2509313No. Japan has been hyped up for Citrus as well.
>>2509320All the comments I see on the youtube video is of mexican girls saying ''WHO'S ALSO GAY HERE', don't know if that's a good sign
>>2509322Those are lesbian chicanos, ignore them like the whore they are.
>>2509322On one hand I want more yuri anime, on the other I really really don't want the annoying faggots to get their hands on it and turn the western /lgbt/ shit on it.
>>2509331>I really really don't want the annoying faggots to get their hands on it and turn the western /lgbt/ shit on it.Anime has been mainstream since in the 90s where have you been
>>2509336>Yuri animeAnd sure you could say we've had yuri anime in the past, but for the most part its been a niche thing and the mainstream crowd didn't put their paws on it.
>>2509322>reading Youtube comments
>>2509338/lgbt/ got their hands on Kobayashi and nothing happened besides some complaints on twitter about the dub.
>>2509338It did with Sailor Moon and Utena those noteworthy yuri anime titles back in the 90s, I'm sure mainstream wouldn't have to sink the fandom but during 2002-2009 yuri anime has been on the complete rise.
>>2509320Japan's hype is nothing compared to the West. Citrus is not really popular in Japan, while in the West is by far the most popular yuri along with wdtfs and Their Story.
>>2509340They are actually an indicator of the audience, youtube comments, twitter and facebook, almost all the comments are in english or spanish
>>2509350>Japan's hype is nothing compared to the West. We will see how the sales fare up and someone in the Citrus threads mentioned there was ton of female fans attending the event most of'em were schoolgirls.
>>2509352Indicator of the audience in those language countries. If the title and description isn't in nip, the comments will likely not be in nip.
>>2509382I'm talking about the japanese trailers and previews.
>>2509350>wdtfs and Their Story.What?
>>2509418Some "popular" manhwa that's really onlyknown on tumblr, but onee-sama apparently believes everyone is reading it.
>>2509420They are popular in the West just as Citrus is, of course that is if you consider Dynasty and failbook
>>2509436I honestly doubt it, but I don't have any data to back it up, so my point isn't fully valid.
>>2509420It's fairly popular here too.I know 4chan is a weeb website, but Chinese and Koreans have some good yuri webcomics actually.
I know this isn't terribly related to /u/, but I thought some of you might enjoy my phone's theme. Nagata Kabi is pure waif material desu.
>>2509484And this is the lock screen. The little envelope pops up when I have an unread notification and picture in the corner changes depending on if I have a missed call or if my alarm is set. Will post those if anybody wants to see.
Reminder: Mage & Demon Queen is great!
>>2509484>>2509488Looks pretty awesome, nice job. She's too weird for me to obsess over, but I admire your love for her.
Besides Kanamemo,Valkyrie Drive and Sakura Trick is there other yuri anime with a lot of kisses?Or at least lighthearted and fun yuris like yuru yuri. I'm so tired of bleak, "but we are both girls", forbidden love bs.
>>2509493There's the Sono Hanabira OVA, although they don't stop at just kissing.
>>2509493>I'm so tired of bleak, "but we are both girls", forbidden love bs.literally how many anime have this?
>>2509490It's true. I just hate waiting for updates on newer stuff like this.
>>2509496This. Actually I don't remember plenty of mangas with the "but we're both girls" conflict. At least not in a way that this cause a huge drama to the point the girls break apart or something
>>2509501At most I can think of it being mentioned as a reason they're hesitant to confess, because that is kinda a big barrier to entry. I'd be more troubled if they didn't think that without a reason to assume she's gay beforehand.Or its used from drama sake for past relationships. I can't really think of many stories where this is actually a big enough issue to care about or even meme about.
>>2509490This is pretty great.wish more webcomics got linked in recent releases, so many good stories I miss out on because i just never hear of them
>>2509490First time I hear about this one. This is great.
>>2509218>>2509219>what is Producer-san>what is ProducerxIdol>what is TakeP>what is TakeRin
>>2509538Shit I don't care about and can safely ignore.
>>2509538Just because there's YunoNanoha doens't mean there isn't also a lot of NanoFate
>>2509538Stuff you can filter out. The anime series for the most part are complete disasters, though, so best to stick to doujins.
>>2509538I really don't understand the thought process behind this.You're already taking a not-yuri-related show and making alternate-reality fanart/doujins where the girls are gay. Why do you even care whether the canon says they're het? I could see being mad if an actual-yuri-series-with-actual-gay-girls-being-gay like YagaKimi had one of the characters suddenly go straight. But if your goggles are already so thick that you can't see your hand in front of your face, why does it matter what the source material looks like?
>>2509553>Comparing a yuri-friendly series that has a legit yuri family to a series known for the popular self-insert (male) and yuribaitingOh please.
>>2509562>Why do you even care whether the canon says they're het?It's not even the canon. They're just ships.
>>2509538I mean, I personally wouldn't touch that series with a 10 foot pole, but if people can make het doujins of yuri series then I don't see why you can't do the opposite.
>>2509538You do realize a fandom can have both hetero and gay couples, right?>>2509562If you really think IM@S is a series where you need "goggles so thick you can't even see your hand in front of your face" to imply any kind of yuri, you clearly haven't seen the show.Of course there is no yuri canon couple, but some ships (RinaNatsuki, ChihayaHaruka and UzukiRin, to name a few) are really /u/ friendly even in the show, so you don't need strong goggles to imagine something going on between them.Of course, a similar case happens for hetero ships (MikiProducer being the most prominent one, but P-san is often shipped with almost everyone). My point is - nothing is canon here. And idol shows/games are known for teasing slight yuri undertones, this is part of their marketing as well.
>>2509575To be fair idolmaster as a whole is a het oriented game, with romantic commus for basically every girl with the male producer, exceptions being dearly stars and side M.But we're talking doujins so who really gives a fuck?
Alright /u/, I got some cool recommendations from /wrs/. Which one should I go with first for some subtext? If nothing else pick by quality.Non Non BiyoriYama no susumeGabriel DropOutLucky StarNichijouYokohama KaidashiKikouAriaMitsuboshi colorsHitoribocchiSketchbookYotsubaHidamari SketchYurukyan △K-On
>>2509639Aria should be somewhere around the bottom if you don't want sudden het at the end.
>>2509639Yama no susume is probably the best pick if you're after /u/ undertones. With K-ON coming in close.
>>2509639nichijou, lucky star, mitsuboshi, and k-on aren't really subtext, just cgdctyotsuba has some yaoi subtext but nothing yuri related at all
>>2509639Hidamari > Non Non S1 > Lucky Star > Yama no Susume > K-On > Gabriel Dropout > Nichijou > the restIn order of gayness.
>>2509562>I really don't understand the thought process behind this.Nobody else in this board does.We were having nice Idolmaster threads for months and suddenly some sperg started dropping in and saying how we shouldn't have it in the board because it isn't yuri.
>>2508856I really love the animation style. Even the screws on the bathroom door hinge look great. Plus I fucking love Iori Minase, so this is definitely top-shelf tier.
>>2509440Manhwa always seem to go full psycho drama. I've been burned too many times to give them the time of day.
>>2509824There's a lack of full psycho yuri to be honest.How can I prove Happy Sugar Life is shit when it doesn't have competition?
>>2509639Non-non Biyori, Yama no Susume and Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou are all Kino. Add Girl's last Tour to that list.Aria is also kino but can go fuck itself.
>>2509824I was reading everyday lily today. It was really cute, but of lesbian drama but overall it was wonderful. I just happened across it on a mobile manga reader and loved it. But it's not on dynasty and id never hear of it here which is slightly annoying. Because I've come across a few Korean webcomics like that. They do tend to take a more realist approach to it it seems rather than going full fluff like a lot of manga does. Which I happen to be in the mood for right now.
>>2509829>Add Girl's last Tour to that list.I'm not sure that qualifies for /sub/-text.
>>2509828Psycho was probably the wrong term to use. I just couldn't think of a suitably impactful word for "makes me want to cut myself".
>>2509833Not that much but the final episode was worth it and it sure qualifies more than half of that list.
>>2509836I think anon was trying to say it's main text not sub. I'm only half way through but it seems that way to me too.
>>2509538I've said this before, but iM@S has a long historied past in yuri shipping in the fandom that rivals the straight stuff in the games. A lot of people, including myself, got into iM@S through that and just chose not to pay attention to the games. The yuri shipping section of the fanbase has taken on a life of it's own, separate from the game players, and both seem to go about their own ways happily.
WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD BUTTER TOAST WITH THEIR COOCH
>>2509836I think Anon was making a joke about the beached submarine at the end.
>>2509958>smoking on the bedSomewhere a firefighter is crying.
>>2510116I'm more worried she'll burn either herself or her gf with it.
>>2510117Those pubic hair fires can be quite deadly.
>>2509824Really? I think that they're just too boring desu.
>>2509824My issue with manhwa is often the writing. Maybe I was just unlucky and only read works of bad authors, but it seems like the required level of proficiency in writing is way lower in manhwa than it is in manga (in order to get published).The art is often nice and different from japanese works, but when the story reads like something a 10 year old would write, I can't help but get bored.
>>2510166Here's your (You). Now fuck off, you derailed enough threads already.
>>2510166You seem to think we aren't aware of the flaws with im@s. No one is claiming that the franchise is on the same level as all the great yuri classics. We know that it is built around a canon het game. That doesn't mean we can't appreciate the mountain of yuri fanart and doujins it has.
A few minutes into Ramen Daisuki and wow this is gay as fuck. This is actually horrendously gay.
>>2510169Or stuff like the anime for that matter since it gave us stuff like Anastasia x Minami. You just have to know what material to focus on and because it's a big enough franchise that's not hard to do. It's not like the games are the single true continuity and the rest of it might not exist. This is all shit we should already know though. It's not like it's the first time we've done this song and dace.
Yama no Susume 3rd Season coming in the Summer.Also Yurucamp anime is nice and comfy (for a series about sitting out in the fucking cold)
>>2509026Looks like Pop Team Epic is getting the Crunchy/Funi treatment too. Anyone's guess which one HS will rip from, though.
>>2510247Just watched it. Was the manga like this too? I never recalled anyone around here talking about the yuriness of this series.
>>2510485They definitely added a lot of yuri.
>>2510337We sure got our fill of cute girls doing adventuring things this season, with Yurucamp, A Place Further than the Universe and now Mountain Lolis S3.
>>2510166They posted it again!They can't keep getting away with it!
Pretty good first episode.
>>2510247The MC is gay for koizumi but koizumi is only gay for ramen.
>>2510536Indeed. This could maybe work. I might finally have something to watch again.
>>2510578She got 12 episodes to fix that.
>>2510485They made Yuu's internal narration longer and gayer than in the manga.
Omoide present was good.
>>2510166>SatanyaGo be a shitposting autist somewhere else.
>>2510772If you want to report an actual shitposting autist, you have this one >>>/a/166631526
>>2510777>the brothers appear and twintails starts datingAnd dropped.
>>2510774But it's rude to not slurp your ramen.
I kind of wish there were more stories where a girl who doesn't feel romantic feelings toward others doesn't actually end up in a relationship with anyone or end up falling in love.Seen the trope a few different ways, I just think it'd be nice if she kept being autistic, while doing whatever it is causes the story to be yuri.
>>2510891gee, what a straight woman
>>2510891>a girl who doesn't feel romantic feelings toward others doesn't actually end up in a relationship with anyone or end up falling in love
>>2510895>You need to be in love to end up with someoneBut other than that there are all those cupid stories with girls supposedly helping out but falling in love themselves, why can't they just help make yuri relationships without falling in love themselves? I mean it'd suck if it became a regular thing, but I'd like to see it once or twice.
I love Yuri girls kiss scenes very much
>>2510902doesn't we all
>>2510905Don't we all.*Watch your grammar, onee-sama.
>>2510891There's the asexual nutter again.Seriously though, this is a board specifically about romance in all its varied forms. If you want cute girls without the romance then you might be looking for /c/ or /a/.
>>2510915Well specifically I was reading one of those yuri Cupid stories, and once again they hamfisted a random girl with the protagonist and it just felt dumb. The yuri was plenty fine just having her help couples get together, always seeing the same hamfisted forced relationship where she suddenly falls in love for someone she's been around forever gets boring. Just keep her as yuri Cupid.
>>2510924stay mad, anofag
Sora Yori, Ramen Daisuki and Yuru Camp are everything possibly relevant with episodes out now? I'm trying to stock up now since I might have no internet for a couple days.
>>2510935Citrus will air tomorrow.
Clover is not working anymore, it keeps freezing. What other app should I use?
>>2511024I don't know if I'll watch that while it's airing since it seems like the threads will be awful.
>>2511047You can just not read the threads?
>>2509216Oh hey Mugino got smart enough to use reaction images.
Happy new year /u/!
Hello again. This is lesbian futbol speaking.As seen in this post: >>2500412 team now will be conducting a survey to see what girls get to be on the roster this season. Cast a vote if you are interested, it will be appreciated.Please refrain from discussing this in the thread, check the team discord and wikipage for more details.Links to them and the poll itself are inside this pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/nfs3ZDu1Cheers
The second season of Ga Rei Zero looks great.
>>2511185>childhood/best friend doomed to lose the MCbowl against the other girli'm sick and tired of this shit
>>2511192childhood friends deserve to lose desu senpai
>>2511195>>2511193judging by the ED they'll give her a consolation prise in the form of white haired ayanami clone
>>2511195It doesn't have to be this way.
>>2511192she wins a younger sister instead
>>2511204that's kinda hot
>>2510578some anon on /a/ told to be wary about the yuri in the show. anyone?
>>2511269Male characters will appear, and that twintails girl will date one of them. I think Yuu and Koizumi are safe from that.
>>2511273its kinda sad to hear that.
>>2511273Eww. Hopefully they won't dedicate an entire episode for that.
I will post this in every general thread until Bocchi gets an anime.
>>2511273She was an obvious slut in the first place so that's not much of a surprise or disappointment.
>>2511294>Not enjoy slut -> pure yuri conversionshit taste senpai
>>2511296Only when there is a chance of that happening. And while I think it's important to be optimistic I'm not going to have false hope for the impossible. I wouldn't mind seeing a doujin of that happening though, but the chances of it are slim to none.
>>2511292Kinda late there. Nevertheless, I'm with you as always.
>>2511273I like what I've read of Koizumi-san so far but it sounds like it will end up being one of those series where het relationships are out in the open but yuri is confined to ambiguity.
>>2511185More like Strike Witches with swords.
Sora Yori's first episode gave off good yuri vibes. Ramin (spic) episode 1 was even gayer than I remember the manga being, and has increased my appetite for more episodes. Yuri Camp started different from what I expected from what I recall reading in the manga. The group start and school thing will be interesting to see progress. Toji no Miko gives me a Saki with swords vibe... With some hidden evil to be unveiled.So far this season looks very promising on the yuri front. Mixed feeling about the Yuki Yuna ending. it feels like a partially happy ending, partially sad (Guki), and that yet like there could be dark things in the future for the girls/world.
>>2511199It's inevitable to be honest.
>>2509322>cheap soap drama attracts mexicansShock.
Anybody play Butterfly Soup? I really liked it. Great western visual novel by an independent creator.
Y'all gayBut no for real , I don't come here and yet all the other boards give shit to you guys , hell even on a discord server we had some trap sperg and imageblock a shy girl that posted (what I guess is your sort of NSFW stuff ) a lot of yuri.I am still friends with her since she somehow likes seing me make the mods mad by posting futanari , we talk a lot about Kancolle too .So tell me c/u/ties why do propor bate you and your yuri?
>>2511709People hate you *
>>2511712Bacause the board is largely people who only come here for this board, aren't actually 4channers, and are therefore even easier to troll than the average 4chan user.Also you type like a retard, just sayin'.
>>2511709Because autists on /a/ and other such boards are threatened by the idea that there can be a relationship without them, and are desperate to claim male superiority however possible. The fact that a dick does not actually make you automatically mind break every woman who looks at you threatens the only thing they thing they have going for them.And in general its fun to bait people who hate yuri by innocently posting superior relationships.plus you sound like a faggot too.And what the fuck does "your sort of nsfw stuff", its either nsfw or not. Noone cares if you're hitting on some girl in discord either.
>>2511713It is 5am and I am using my phone that can't understand that I am trying to write in english and not portuguese.
>>2511716Chill man , yeah I guess I am a fag , I like futanari afterall the cute kind like ubanis or naya .Plus we are just friends , I like chicks with dicks and she likes her girls with other girls , we just stay together since almost everyone hates us lmao
>>2511725God damn your desperation reeks from here. I'm willing to bet in a few months you're going to be crying about how nice guys always lose because some bitch rejected your horribly obvious desperation.
Keep that shit where it belongs (ie: not here) and post the weekly schedule. Wasn't Citrus suppossed to air today?
>>2511728Man are you okay ? Why the hell do you think I am trying to make a move on her ? I just used her as an example to ask how something so simple can cause this autistic reactions on so many people.Can't guys be friends with lesbos now lmao?
>>2511732I don't see any bad motive inherent in your actions, and I think its fine for two people of any gender to be platonic friends, especially if they bond over not exactly being straight or gay together. So your cringey word choice aside, I don't think you are the sort of Elliot Rodger type >>2511728 accuses you of being.
I'm kind of curious, how old were /u/ when you first started shipping yuri? And who were those girls?I know I started to imagine Usagi and Rei kissing each other in Sailor Moon when I was 9. I didn't even know what gay was back then.
This terrible discussion has reminded me that /u/ is kinda weird for a porn board on 4chan. Discussion and arguments are most of the content, the board is more interested in shipping than image dumps and different threads are like their own subcommunities with their own vastly different cultures (the manhwa threads and the lit thread come to mind). What caused this?
>>2511755Hmm, I'm not sure really. I think the first /u/-coupling I really shipped might've been Mato and Yomi from BRS back in 2010?
>>2511755I created a female OC and had her with a guy for sometime at 11 but eventually switched the guy for a girl love interest for some reason. I didn't really read or watch any yuri till a few years later though.
>>2511763Start of season is the time we most need this thread for its intended purpose so please keep meta discussion to a minimum for a couple of weeks.
>>2511763Hispanic lesbians invaded / u / and their English is basic, they come for the raws of the Korean Manhwas.
>>2511763Different people are here for different reasons, similar to the bigger boards.Most smaller boards have a similar community so you don't notice how wide spread the interest is even though the threads don't get pushed off./u/ gets the variety of people, but the speed of a slower board, so you see those threads and posts stay up longer than you would on /a/ or /v/, plus /u/ tends to be more lenient on what is /u/ than most boards allowing for even greater spread if interest.In the general alone you see people complain about subtext and people who are basically here for subtext, and others who just want porn for example. Very different wants out of yuri but it's all shoved on the same board.
>making a yuri thread on other boards.webm
>>2511731In 6/7 hours we have Citrus and Slow Start.
>>2511786This is from Yuasa Devilman, right? How is it? I haven't had the time to watch it yet.
>>2511819From yuri perspective there's nothing to watch there.But as anime it's not bad but also not so great, I would say it looks like some middle shelf anime or even lower tier visually, I liked the manga version more.I wish they would remake Devilman Lady anime at least in it there's yuri.
>>2511777If their English is basic, maybe we can take advantage and lure them into lesbian sex slavery.
>>2511825>Devilman LadyPlease just let it stay dead.
>>2511825>>2511829Devilman G would be better, since Lan and Aoi are present there. From what I understand the Devil Lady manga was bad anyway and the anime was an improvement if anything.
Why does Morinaga slit her wrist, /u/?
>>2511831>Devilman G would be better, since Lan and Aoi are present there.Yeah one was gruesomely killed and also raped before and other was raped and then turned into Devilman tentacle monster.Great examples.
>>2508462>>2508475>>2508512source? what is this?
>>2511842Probably just suffers tendon strain from all the drawing she does.
>>2511842>I wrote Girl Friends before the yuri anime boom of 2017-2018
>>2511755I was in middle school when CCS aired.
The guitar cutting in here really reminded me of Obstacles at the end of the first episode of LiS.
>>2511844Does that happen in G though? Going to drop it in that case.
There's a yuri manga where nearing the end a girl is with her girlfriend in the shower and suddenly kills a grasshopper with her wet hair...I wonder what it was called.
>>2511888>Be male>Be here for the shippingWell, every generalization has its exceptions.
>>2511885http://devilman.wikia.com/wiki/File:Hell.pngAoi got killed buf of course before that she was raped.About Lan you can read in her wiki entry.I stopped giving a shit about Takato Rui after this, especially with his idiotic AV Idol story next which of course has some girl x girl sex in it thrown in as cheap fanservice chapter but is mostly about all the girls getting dicked in explict detail, so it's a shit similair to Trash manga in spirit.
>>2511890And the manwha threads are clearly full of girls that are here for porn, I think they just go about it in different ways.
>>2511888Way too wide of a generalization, I think.I originally came here just because the Madoka threads on /a/ were terrible, and I now enjoy yuri in nearly every possible form. The only thing I'm kind of iffy on is the pure fanservice-but-not-porn stuff but I still enjoy it occasionally anyway.
>>2511888Male here. I view the porn and the shipping as part of a complete package. One without the other just ain't right.
>>2511893Well at least the monster that raped her was female? But yeah that is pretty trashy, granted it's a reboot of a Go Nagai manga but still.
>>2511888>The males part post porn, the females part post shipping.t. the biggest shipper on /u/
>>2511763/u/ isn't really a porn board as much as /gif/ or other 3D porn boards. >>2511888>the males part post porn[citation really fucking needed]Don't generalize the entire male userbase of /u/ just because you dump porn here.
>>2511853Lurk for more than 2 days and you'll find out.
>>2511888Yes, I also must suggest that your opinion is wrong.Also a lot of the reason for the discussion tradition is simply that we didn't have enough images once upon a time.
>>2511888>The males part post porn, the females part post shipping.Now wrong can one anon be?
>>2511890You're not alone.
Ramen Daisuki's MC had to be female because her persistence would be creepy as hell from a guy.
>>2511888I dunno, other than the 'post fetish here' threads the most porny ones seem to be for series where I'd imagine a good number of women are fans. Western series like Overwatch/Korra/etc, the manhwa threads, etc. At the very least these are categories where /u/ has a lot of popularity overlap with tumblr, where this stuff certainly is full of women posting smut.
>>2512017>look I posted something that is objectively wrong and people disagreed with me>lmao I baited them eks dee stupid boysQuality post.
>>2512019>imying I made the first postIt's such obvious bait. I just find it funny how it works in almost every single general thread. Every time someone mentions men, you have them crawling out from the walls to prove how different they are.
>>2512028Because maybe they really are different and they don't like some random onee-sama assume they are only here for the porn?
>>2512017I think your post serves more to prove that the majority in /u/ is actually man.and yeah, they do like to imply they're different to the others.
>>2512017>The men on /u/ always have to prove how different they are than other men who only think of pornPretty much everything with the statement is wrong.
>>2511825>From yuri perspective there's nothing to watch there.Well there's a part where Miko tells Miki she loves her but it could be platonic or not, still i wouldnt try to make any romance out of this series given how it always ends
>>2511130Friendly reminder, if you missed it
I wonder if this fits yuri anime category where we know that Pipimi is canonically in love with Popuko.
>>2512017There's no way all the retarded arguments that happen on /u/ are dominated by females though.
Watching strawberry panic finally.Which got me thinking, why do we have such a lack of the typical shoujo style rape scenes in yuri?Its like one of the staple happenings in typical shoujo stories that I seem to read, and seeing it happen in strawberry panic makes me wonder why its not common at all in yuri?
>>2512172Waiting for subs, but given the nature of the source (absurd comedy), I'd take any yuri or subtext here as seriously as the yuri in Puni Puni Poemi
>>2512172Takeshobo better be ground zero of that initiation.
Fair bit of gayness in Slow Start, though it's probably not gonna be for those who are sick of CGDCT shows.
>>2512172I was not prepared for the voices
Slow Start started off fast and hot. Anyone else find Sensei sexy?I know Citrus has its own thread, but I just have to say I thought the first episode was very well done. From the beginning / OP it looks like we'll be getting a imoto /loli pairing, that hasn't been established in the manga yet, if the hand holding is anything to go by.
>>2512334>Slow Start started off fast and hotSlow start is a congestion control algorithm used in the starting phase of TCP where the congestion window and thus the amount of packets being sent at once increases exponentially every round trip. Ironically, its growth rate is way faster than in the normal phase of TCP where the growth is linear, but the 'slow' part of its name is actually because the previous starting phase algorithm was even faster.I think that the anime is mellow.
>>2510578>MC is gay for koizumi but koizumi is only gay for ramenShe'll soften her up before the end of the season, and her wet noodles will be consumed by her.
>>2511888What does it say about me if I don't really care about shipping OR porn?I'm just here to read yuri manga.
>>2512358Anon, those groups were proved to be bullshit with how cancerous is having waifus for any /u/ser.
>>2512336Can Citrus even compete?
>>2512336Best yuri of the century. Pack it up girls, we're done here.
>>2512451>>2512459Try watching that shit with the audio.
>>2512491But I did. Twice.
>>2512491Didn't watch the 2nd half?
>Pop Team EpicIt is as though I got run over by a train during a bad acid trip.
Strawberry Panic is really good. Loving the first few episodes.
You think any of yuri characters listen to Perfume? At least Girl Friends had them singing one of their song in karaoke.
what's japanese title of this manga?http://wasabisyrup.com/archives/kqn5UobmSKM
>>2512723I don't know but if you're looking for it there's some chapters on Dynastyhttps://dynasty-scans.com/series/catulus_syndrome
>>2512532It was pretty much what I came to expect from the manga.Trying any joke that comes into mind and hoping some of them are good and I love it
>>2511708I guess nobody did lol. Oh well, I recommend it regardless
>>2511968no, you absolute IMBECILE, it's the toy story 7 crossover movie featuring the jetsons
>>2512779I played it because you mentioned it, enjoyed it very much for the most part. Only parts that really bothered me was Min’s father’s dialogue, the over the top violence and the period blood/tampon bits. Needs a sequel for the inevitable hookup of Noelle and Yaoi Seme.
A little bit of a newfag to the yuri genre, watched LWA tho after looking through a couple /u/ threads.That community got boring and repetitive after awhile, so I was wondering, are there any similar things to watch? Something that isn't completely about romance but is just a fun, humorous show with a little bit of shipping/yuri
>>2512827Yuru Yuri is great if you haven’t seen it
>>2512828just watched the first episode, and BOY is this show stupidbut stupid in a good way
>>2512563same, i watched it a few years back and i'm rewatching it now. I don't think I've seen something another yuri that feels the same. it's very 'will they, won't they', iirc
>>2512827Flip Flappers, Non-non-Biyori, Hina Logi, Maid Dragon, Nyanko Days, Strike witches, Yuyushiki.If it's subtext you like then you're in luck. That's what we usually have too much of.
>>2512827Subtext and shipping is shit, though. You need to up your yuri game and get some hardcore onee-sama on imouto handholding action.
>>2512922Half of those are more than just subtext.
>>2512948That's only for the level 5 yuricists.
>>2512999They ship any girl that casts a shadow?
>>2513014Even those without shadows.
>>2512997Generally they're humorous and not specifically about yuri though.
>>2512997>its obvious so its not subtextits subtext if they don't actually say they're lesbians.maid dragon is the only one that's not really subtext.
>>2513037Technically, all of maid-dragon's text is one-sided.While it would be stupid to deny that their partner's reciprocate since there are some fairly clear hints to that effect, they never just come out and say it.
>>2513037That's the most stupid definition of subtext I've ever seen. Most japanese shows with romantic girlxgirl couples never use the "l" word and still aren't subtext, including some of them in that list.
>>2513076Subtext literally means its not stated explicitly though.If doesn't matter if they live in the same house with a kid, if its never said to be a thing, then its subtext, even if they're beating you over the head with it.
>>2513082There are multiple ways of them being explicit besides saying they are lesbians.
>>2513086Saying things which effectively mean they're dating is the same.>Subtext or undertone is any content of a creative work which is not announced explicitly by the characters or author, but is implicit or becomes something understood by the observer of the work as the production unfolds.
>>2513087They can confess or kiss which is what some characters in that list already did, they don't need to say anything else.
>>2513098>confessing>not explicitly stating their interest in other women
>>2512848It also got three seasons and a short pseudo-season between 2 and 3.
>when that tax return gets deposited
Is this where Bocchi's anime is hiding?
>>2513156I still think this series is basically Ichigo Mashimaro except all the girls are Miu.
>>2513164The girl who looks the most like Miu isn't very like Miu I think.
Batoto's shutting down.I know a lot of anons don't like it, but it was still the best place for general manga/stuff that takes a while to/doesn't show up on Dynasty.
>>2513286That's a shame, it had a nice bit of yuri stuff that wasn't on dynasty too.
>>2513286At least we still have madokami. Although they are moving servers now, so they are currently dead.Still, I doubt it's going to change much.
>>2511881Don't mind me, I'm just picking this the fuck up.
>>2513156Damnit, how come this got an anime instead of Bocchi? Life really isn't fair. But at least, if colours is successful, then it practically guarantees a Bocchi anime, right?Right?
Is there a worse girl in all of yuri?
>>2513456Hikari did nothing wrong.
>>2513492Say it again, you cunt
>>2513494>Yaya>not best girlI mean, it's [current year] aleady
>>2513037Flipflap has a confession and Hinalogi a kiss.
http://revuestarlight.com/I really hope this is actually a musical
>>2511881Q: Would you drop everything and travel to Antarctica with a girl you just met?A: Is she pretty? Does she smell nice?
>>2513286>>2513292what if Dynasty is next? Anyone here archiving all Dynasty contents?
>>2513494huwaito piggu go homu!
>>2513572Like breaking into song in every episode?
>>2513572Oh it's the sword fighting girls. The trailer for it looked amazing. Really nice to see that the promotional art is also really /u/.
>>2513680I'm a bit confused. Is it about swordfighting or acting?
>>2513685i heard drama club
>>2513685>I'm a bit confused. Is it about swordfighting or acting?It's a musical theater troupe. Think Takarazuka
>>2513688>>2513572Finally something to sate my desire for musical animes.why aren't there more musical animes?
>>2513679Now I hope that instead of one of them playing the male, they just play a lot of lesbian drama.
>>2513696Does Symphogear count?
>>2513572If this is anything like Cheer Fruits, then I'll enjoy the hell out of it.
Strawberry panic was just conspiracy to make a bunch of great pairs with great girls, then trash them to make the worst pairings happen right?
>>2513725The original project was about readers being able to vote for couplings.
>>2512532Luminaire was a nice touch.
>>2513726And they generally voted for the best pairings. Which the anime then trashed while the books were just "shizuma fucked everyone"
I love Shizuma. She's the reason I watched SP in the first place. Best girl. Best ending. Tamaonerds go home.
>>2513709I'll never forget that beef stroganoff song
>>2513456Hotaru in Yuri NTR.I'm more mad at her than for StoPani, and I'm a Tamaofag.
>>2513674I'm not asking for Lesbian Miserables, but the musical pirate bit in Kinmoza was so good
Cute girls doing cute musicals when?
>>2513572The director is Ikuhara's apprentice. I expect lesbians and crazy storyboards.
>>2513932You just killed the bare skerrick of interest I had in it.
Was Go! Princess Precure shit?
>>2513988It was good. A well produced season with nice shipping material.
>>2513961Anon, please. He is not Ikuhara. That's a different director who makes different cartoons.
Anyone here have [gg]'s Red Garden files? Torrent on Nyaa is deader than [gg] itself.
>>2514074Looks like it's still alive on AB.
>>2514076I don't have a AB account.
>>2514080The applications are still open, it's a good opportunity to get in.
>>2514081They are not.
>>2514084They are. There is a max number of pending submissions, and once they reach it, the applications (temporarily) close again. They open up after staff clears some of the applications. You just need to refresh the site every 5-10 minutes and hope for the best. That's what I did.
>>2514084Open, I mean. Sorry if I came off as rude.
>>2514085>clears some of the applicationsWhat.
>>2514088>people submit their applications>the applications pile up, site closes >staff comes online and accepts/declines some of the pending applications>the site opens up again, allowing new applications until they reach the limit>site closes>staff comes online (...)And so on and so forth.
YuruCamp∀ is comfy as fuck. The art and music are gorgeous. Setting up a tent looks like a pain in the ass, though.
>>2514074DDL because you are a nice imoutohttp://omarroms.homeip.net/M/Anime/Complete%20%5BRecovered%5D/Complete%20%5BUnwatched%5D/R/Red%20Garden%20%5BACX%5D%20%5BDual%5D%20%5BEps22%5D/http://omarroms.homeip.net/M/Anime/Complete%20%5BRecovered%5D/Complete%20%5BUnwatched%5D/R/Red%20Garden,%20Dead%20Girl%20%5BACX%5D%20%5BDual%5D%20%5BOVA%5D/
>>2514091So there's a chance they won't let you in?
>>2514098They can turn down your application, yes. But if you answer all the questions, you are almost guaranteed to get in.
>>2514099Alright, thanks. That sounds super autistic. I should give it a try.
>>2514100It's not that bad, the questions are pretty simple. Unfortunately it's all server side - so you can load the page with all the questions, fill everything in, press submit, and (if in that time the application queue got full), get greeted with the "we are closed for now" page. And you will lose all the progress too. My suggestion is to answer the questions in a notepad/Word/whatever, and then copy paste them to the website. Here are all the questions, if you want to answer them ahead of time.https://pastebin.com/uGtiifEM
>>2514095Oh my! Thanks!
>>2514102Thanks again. Incidentally, it's 6 am and I wanted to to write an essay.
>>2514102>writing a fucking essay to pirateJesus Christ, private trackers truly are the most autistic things.
>>2514115AB is actually one of the least autistic trackers out there. Others require hour long interviews on IRC or reading an entire interview wiki.
>>2514115Wouldn't be much point in being private if they weren't picky.
>>2514118the simple act of having a barrier is enough to turn away the riffraff
>>2514118Some private trackers are just autistic. bakabt has deleted for inactivity my account with an excellent ratio and lots of seeded gigabytes. Apparently, a few kilobytes in their database are more important than my thick fiber.
>>2514118Eh, I'll rather search from elsewhere or be without than deal with this nonsense. I can live without them and I'm sure they can live without me.
So I read Notes From the Garden of Lilies after someone recommended it in the bullying thread, and I can't believe how good it was. Even though the bullying stuff fell by the wayside quickly, Misono still had that sadistic streak which was nice, and the way she roundabout proposed by saying she wouldn't need waifu skills like cooking in the future because she'd have Yuri. And then that postscript epilogue was the cherry on top.And she probably still bullies Yuri in the bedroom
>>2514125I think you only need to have active torrents at least, I just leave shit sitting in my client. I rarely even torrent anything these days either.
Iowa is a good girl.
>>2514317Chestlet uprising when?
Is this yuri harem?
Is the loveisover archive kaput? Haven't been able to get on in a day or two.
>>2514462Nothing on their Twitter about it, so maybe it's temporary. Hopefully.
>>2514396>Is this yuri harem?Marchen madchen will be one.
>Citrus Anime Capítulo 1 Sub Español >810k views You can't make this shit up
>>2514639Just watch as it becomes popular everywhere, but not in the only country where it matters.
>>2514726Well, hopefully Cruncyroll pulls for us. I'm wanting some dual audio BDs personally.
>>2514728She means Japan
>>2514730I know that, Crunchyroll helps produce some series, one of them being Citrus. I'm saying that I'm hoping Crunchyroll will let them know how popular it is overseas.
>>2514730That looks uncomfortable.
>>2514734Nips don't care how popular something is overseas, because that doesn't translate to money that well. Also, CR is there to get exclusive rights for simulcasting, nothing else.
>>2514639>watching anime on youtubeI mean, I'm not expecting the average mexican/hispanic underage girls to be aware of what they are doing, but come on now.>this is a large part of the western yuri fanbaseJust thinking that makes me sick.
>>2514736It was tagged "Professional wrestling"
>>2514737To be fair, most of those het romance shows flop, and they still keep doing them. So they're helping in something.
>>2514742Don't worry, videos like this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUD6f83DKIEHave 60k views, so not everything is lost.
>>2514737You're wrong. First, Crunchyroll is in the production committee, they did help to fund and create the anime itself. Needless to say that its success on CR is important.Second, nips do care about overseas money from streaming services. Mostly Chinese though.
>>2514182Their dynamic really is fantastic. It's so detailed and then written well enough that even when nothing is happening plotwise, it's still enjoyable. Even better is that the drama is always focused on their relationship maturing, without actually changing. The hug scene near the end is especially nice because nothing changes afterwards except they now both know how much they like each other and why. It's really sweet.It also always nice when the side characters are well done. I wish there were more scenes with Shinobu and her lover as well as all the parents. The special where the parents react to the house date was great. Definitely one of my favourite series.
>>2514639Is this good or is this wack?
>>2514779It just means more of this >>2511777
>>2514779Ali G reference is the least likely thing I expected to see on /u/.
>>2514759>Citrus ep 1 got 1 million view on Chinese streaming siteYou can't make this shit up.Honestly watching the hype Citrus generates I guess it's still THE yuri anime for international fans after all, even if YagaKimi got an anime it will never be able to generate the same amount of discussion Citrus has. It just can't generate raw emotions in the way Citrus does.
I want to bother Sosogu.
>>2514968>Lezu wa HomoOh, really now?
>>2514968>ver las 3 respiestasayy carramba senorita siesta mexico
After surrounding myself with /u/ community purely on 4chan and other imageboards for many years now, it's really weird to think that for every single one of us shitposting on this board, there are quite literally thousands of underage hispanic/mexican girls watching anime on youtube and "discussing" them on tumblr.Not trying to be racist or anything, other nationalities have their share of underage yuri fangirls too, it's just that these two seem to have the most.It's weird to think how tiny /u/ is (even if we combine all imageboards) in the scale of the "western yuri fanbase". I'm not sure how I feel about this, but it's not a pleasant feeling.
>>2515126I'm happy for that. I would be sad if the retards on /u/ were all the yuri fanbase.
>>2515126>"western yuri fanbase"Some of /u/sers come from yurop and asia
>>2515134I can talk shit about /u/ for hours, but at the end of the day, I prefer to share this "community" with /u/. At least (in most cases) I can be sure I'm talking to someone who has actually seen and read more than 2 yuri works in their life, and more or less knows what he/she is talking about. >>2515137I know, I meant it from the japanese perspective. We're all westerners to them, yurop or NA.
>>2515138Filthy gaijins basically
>>2515138>We're all westerners to them, yurop or NA.For me, it's former occupied territory
>>2515126I'm not sure whether it's pleasant or not, but for me, it's some kind of relief. Imagine if every yuri community on Earth is located next to /pol/. Not an encouraging sight, at the very least.
>>2515126I think it's fine, good for them having a nice hobby.>>2515138>I prefer to share this "community" with /u/And I agree also with this. /u/ and 4chan in general is better for me because I am human garbage and at least here I can be with other garbage people.
>>2515190I have yet to come across a yuri community that isn't full of garbage people.
>>2515126I don't get the hate.>How dare people like the same thing I do! This cannot be allowed to happen!
>>2515219>I hate non-/u/ yuri communities>"How dare people like the same thing I do! This cannot be allowed to happen!"I did not imply either of those in my post. Is reading comprehension really that rare nowadays?
>>2515222Not that anon, in general.
>>2515190>/u/ and 4chan in general is better for me because I am human garbage and at least here I can be with other garbage people.Everything and everywhere is garbage. /u/ happens to smell just right.
>>2515185But we get yuri and front-row seats to the cancer killing civilisation. What's not fun about that?
Yuu in Koizumi-san sure is gay.>This is a show about a psycho stalker with a fetish for watching other people eat food.But that's the best part!
>>2515138Vigne should just fuck Gabu already.I mean, she hangs around a demon with no panties on!She's clearly asking for it!
>>2512343that's a funny ass spoiler, and I also don't think the anime was anything to write home about just yet