Because you asked for it. Comfy camping lesbians.
Praise be comfy camping lesbians
This doujin of Nadeshiko and Rin moving in together looks pretty great from the sample.https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=67950613
Is there any art of Rin crushing on Sakura?
Fufufu.Dojin about Rin being molested by Nadeshiko when Nadeshiko is in her half awake state when?
>>2578788Their relationship is so great. I know the anime played it up more compared to the manga, but it works so well.
What is their sex like?
>>2578952Loud enough to almost get them banned from several campsites.
>>2578717>this will probably never be scanned
>>2579156Buy it and scan it yourself then.
>>2578748Unfortunately not. But everytime I see Sakura lewds I imagine it's Rin fantasizing about her.
>>2578952Fucking in tents.
Be Rin.Get to see this on a regular basis.
>>2578717Any digital version? I'll buy it if they have it. The shipping cost is easily trice the doujin price.
>>2578348Is this what the Subarus are for, to get to campsites?
>>2580377I think so.
>>2580377Subaru Foresters are only driven by lesbians.
>>2580386Wearing ponchos and long skirts and turtlenecks with your hair in a bun is also gay.I know Rin does this because of her size so she doesn't look like a grade school student. But was the staff aware of how it would look in other parts of the world? When Rin is in the skirts and bun she looks like a lesbian librarian. When she wears her scootering clothes with the boots, jeans, and jacket she looks like a reverse trap.Then when Nade puts on the skirts an poncho look while Rin is in her riding clothes its like, "Hi we are a lesbian couple from the pacific northwest".
>>2580400This is why >>2578788 is my favorite pic of them.
>>2580400Don't forget her rainbow scarf. Her adult form in Nadeshiko's imagination also looks like a turbo dyke.
>>2580567>nade imagination>short hairNade is a fucking retard.
Rin with a pullover with stripes that matches Nadeshiko's jammies.>>2580584I am interested to know if Nade has been crushing on Rin's mom like Rin has been on Sakura. That would explain Rin and Nade both having short hair.
>>2580640You might be on to something. Older Rin did look just like her Mom.
My heart exploded at this scene. For a non romantic series this had some really sweet loving moments.
なでリン is now a tag on Pixiv. I guess thats the name of this pairing now.
Why does Nade get first billing in NadeRin? What was wrong with RiNade?
>>2581004She's the one that seeks Rin out the most?
>>2581006I thought it might be a implication of who tops.
>>2581062Yes, and usually the reticent girl is portrayed as being the bottom, with the girl chasing her being the top. For obvious reasons.
Why does Nadeshiko have such a good taste?>>2564121
>>2581556>>2581558>>2581561Can translationfriends drop some mad trannies on these pictures?
>>2582001>Ah! Rin-chan! A taiyaki shop!>>Taiyaki - Yum!>You gonna buy one?>Hm... Not today... I spent too much of my pocket money so money's tight...>Then how about you pay me for half and I'll buy one to split between us?>Yeah, that'll work!>Welcome>>tawa~>Okay, this should be half.>Here, Nadeshiko.>>Eat me>Eh? The bigger half? You sure?>It's fine.>Thank you, Rin-chan!>Nadeshiko looks so happy when she's eating taiyaki...>>nom nom>Delicious~>Oh crap, it's delicious.>>chomp>This sweetness is against the rules...
https://archiveofourown.org/works/14139603A bit dramatic but I'll take it anyways. I prefer https://archiveofourown.org/works/14125029 tho
This ALMOST was a great drawing if not for one thing.
>>2584242What? Chiaki's durr face?
>>2584245Nah the convenient censors
>>2584245>>2584246There is something missing from that image.
>>2584277Rin's right nipple? Aoi touching Chiaki to complete the daisy chain?
Going to be watching Yuru Camp. On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being a Wee Wee Free church and 10 being Richard Simmons, How gay is it?Also any other recommendations? Can you rate them on a Wee wee free to Richard Simmons scale.
>>2584280Yes the nipple. Its annoying as fuck.
>>25842867/10Only male characters are Nadeshiko's dad and Rin's grandfather. And while it's not explicitly a romantic series, it doesn't bother to deny the fact that Rin and Nade are super into each other in a more than friendly way. Plus Rin admired Nadeshiko's big sisters beauty.
>>2584286I'd say 4. Nothing super gay but an intense, highly goggleable friendship. Nadeshiko also has this "maniac pixie dream girl" thing going on, meaning that she changed Rin's life for the better by meeting her. Also Rin was clearly into Sakura.>>2584288I assume it's covered by water drops.
>>2581556>Sorry, did I wake you?>It's fine>>2581558>Going back to sleep after seeing Rin off to work is what I enjoy most on Sundays.>That's not something you should enjoy.>I'll fix your hair in a bit.>Breakfast will be ready soon. Want some?>Thanks, that'd be great.>Some simple misoshiru made with grandma Nadeshiko's homemade miso ball and microwaved roasted onigiri.>That hits the spot>She has you by the stomache, hubby>It can't be helped!>Rin-chaaaan! Has she left?>>2581561>I want to see Rin-chan off sometimes too!>That's fine, but you could at least put on panties. (I can see you)>Yesterday Nadeshiko fell asleep "just the way she was.">Ahh, what a disgraceful thing to see first thing in the morning! (I'm sorry)>Well, I'm off.>By the dark lord, return to us at a later time.>Aren't you too ready to go back to bed? (I'm definitely coming home early)
>>2584322So it's Rin/Ena/Nade all living together?
>>2584341Its what it looks like. Also looks like Rin is the only one with a job.
>>2584413More like Rin is the only one who works on Sunday.
>>2584322Where exactly did you get "dark lord" from?
>>2584423Still working at the bookstore I guess. Are their any universities near where they live?Although it is kind of fun to think that Rin is the only one with a job at school and the other two make it up to her with "services" while their parents pay the rent.
>>2584429What, would you rather it be some weeblation like "itterasshai"? I have you know this is a professional quality translation and great care has been taken to make sure all cultural connotations are conveyed in the most understandable form.
>>2580400Since when are long skirts and turtlenecks typical lesbian things?
TADAH! It was only a matter of time.
>>2584456Gotta hide all the hickeys somehow.
[FumeiRaws] Kirara Fantasia - Slow Start & Yuru Camp "Slo x Camp" SP (BS11 1280x720 x264 10bit AAC) [23B228DB].mkv Its marked live action so its some kind of seiyuu special?
>>2585047All that's missing now is a pic with their IPS child.
>>2585145what was the hashtag for this?
>>2585684It just aired, give it time.
>found cute yurucamp fancomic>it's not english so I can't share it with /u/I feel bad
>>2585969>no saliva trailKaruta has been replaced by an imposter.
>>2585971Someone can translate it.
>>2586011It's uses pun in my mother tongue, it will be unfunny if translated directly to English
>>2586014So which language is it? Just post it already.
Here is a question /u/. I posted all 13 of 相川りょう's color Yuru Camp pages, including these >>2580640>>2581272on the /a/ Yuru Camp thread >>>/a/170914715. And there were people arguing that Nadeshiko is out of character. That she would never be that sexually agressive toward run, and in particular she would never do things that would make Rin feel uncomfortable in public.Do you think that is true? Yes I know a feature of their relationship is their being considerate toward each other but, isnt this taking it a bit too far?
I wish there was more comfy camping bondageRelaxing inside a sleeping bag, secretly bound in shibari underneath... watching the stars with a cute comfy lesbian lover-domme...
>>2586098Would cardboard and tape suffice?
>>2586101Cardboard and tape aren't comfycute!!!
>>2578717Someone's has to upload this when it comes out
>Still only 6 fics on Ao3 and 3 on FFWith how popular this was, I'm surprised. Anyone got any (not lewd) prompts? Maybe I can try my hand.
>>2586046Once two people get close enough they start getting more comfortable with casual contact. Nade and Rin in the series have known each other for less than a year. I'm sure as their relationship progresses, Nade would be more upfront with her affection and Rin less shy about it.After all someone hastake the lead to take the realtionship next level, and I honestly don't see Rin doing it.
>>2586458I'd like something about Rin and Nade's first kiss. With Chiaki, Aoi and Ena teasing them and encouraging their relationship.
>>2581004>RiNadeThe na part doesn't work in kana.
>>2586458The club's (and Ena) reaction to how Rin and Nade act around each other during another group camping trip.
>>2586489Sounds cool like grenade though
"Rin's breasts are a perfect size! For my hands.""Geh!""Explain!Explain!"
Did anyone get around to translating the drama tracks on the OST?
I wish we knew more about the age gap climber couple.
>>2587303Check the previous thread.
>>2587747Maybe they're friends with older Aoi & Hinata.
>>2587924Maybe they ARE Aoi and Hinata.
>>2587994Puberty really mutated them then. Glasses looks more like Hikari or Kokona in any case.
>>2587994The deepest lore.
>>2587800another anon, it's not in the archive
Check this out. A handsome Nadeshiko. Who knew she could pull it off?
>>2588352Well, of course if one draws her with make-up and realistic eyes rather than her big ol' eyes.
In the cute Fuji-style
>>2589136>Ena NTRUnexpected not entirely unappreciated
>>2589136>>2589142Now they'll have to fight.
>>2589161Ena encouragin Rin and Nade to become friends was all part of her plan to have a threesome.
>>2589172>My feet hurt>Why are these two pulling my arms>I wish I was going solo camping>I bet neither of these girls even have a foil lining for underneath their tentBeing Rin is suffering. But I'm sure there's enough room in the tent for 3.
>>25842860Basically what >>2584302 said but I don't think it's "goggleable", it's entirely on you to interpret a friendship with no blushing as gay. Also she wasn't "into Sakura". I know it's hard to believe but anyone can tell how pretty anyone else is. Even guys can call other guys handsome without being gay about it. If you want to believe you can see homosexuality in this series, but if you actually look at it as its presented there's nothing to work with. That said it's still a fantastic series worthy of reading or watching.
Ehh.One of the things I really appreciated in this show was that it wasn't some Love Live-esque "every ship works!" setup. That always just makes it seem like in the show's universe, all normal friendships are incredibly intimate and romantic, and having those moments between everyone makes them feel less significant for me. Yuru Camp was very good at having a line between those relationships with romantic coding and those that were platonic, and I think the relationships are the better for it.
>>2589184>it's entirely on you to interpret a friendship with no blushing as gay.>blushing is the only thing to ever prove something is gay or not>Rin's entire development centers around Nadeshiko coming into her life and changing her life for the better>Rin goes from being someone who only does things alone to genuinely enjoying Nadeshiko's presence and caring for the girl, while Nadeshiko, even as an idiot, understands Rin and her needs the best.Their friendship is certainly goggle-able, and the last episode of the season is fairly gay even if you try to discount the rest of the season. I'm not going to call NadeRin canon or imply that YuruCamp is gayer than a number of shows out there, but denying goggle-ability or being unable to look past the forefront into how romantically-coded the friendship was is retarded.
>>2589194Don't use words like "coding" please. You can't just say "it's romantic because I say so, look at the romance". Listen, friendship alone can be extremely powerful, between girls, between men, between the opposite sexes; it is possible. They may even love each other, yes, but to suggest it's romantic or that the text is saying "look, it's romantic" is extremely misguided. It's not as easy to process a strong friendship because we're used to seeing romance in fiction, heteronormative or otherwise, but you can absolutely have a friendship like theirs and have no romantic angle to it. I've got a friend like that, as a man (oh no!) who lives far apart from me, but I feel a deep connection to him. Similarly I have a sister who has been friends with her best friend since middle school. The two of them are in their later 30s and one is married. They've slept together, been on long trips, talk about one another frequently. Their relationship is extremely strong, and Rin and Nadeshiko's reminded me of it, but it's certainly not romantic.If you want to believe it could BLOSSOM into romance, I think that's absolutely fine actually. I don't think you should call me retarded for interpreting the text as it is meant to be interpreted. Don't say it isn't. Rin has moments over Ena like she does over Nadeshiko, smiling fondly in remembrance of a friend. None of the girls fawn over one another. And sister, that is FINE. You should be able to say "they have a special relationship", without being reductive and simplistic by thinking it has a romantic angle.
>>25891840 would require no interactions between girls at all.
>>2589204Because girls being with girls is gay? Same with guys?
>>2589205>girls being with girls is gayYes, where do you think you are? Even a small friendship can put something between 0 and 1, but plain 0 would only be possible if there's a single female character who doesn't even know other females exist.
>>2589203>as it is meant to be interpreted. Huh, afro posts on /u/? That's pretty cool.
>>2589206I wouldn't go that far. Hell, I'm pretty bitter right now since I spent the last hour exploring a manga about a female lit club. The covers all have girls holding lilies.It's 100% heterosexual. I was and am still pissed off about that. It's Araburu Kisetsu something if you want to avoid it forever.>>2589207I'm just saying if the man wanted it to be /u/ he has experience with subtext. He decided against it for whatever reason,and in a lot of ways the series is subversive. No need to deny that, it's quite impressive for its decisions to not be usual for its genre.
>>2589208And I'm just saying that it's really cool to see an author posting on 4chan about their own authorial intent. Any chance you'll be doing a Q&A session sometime like Mamare did for Log Horizon?
>>2589209Why are you being passive aggressive? I thought I was backing up what I was saying pretty well. Or, is there some other reason Dynasty hasn't given this series a "subtext" tag, nor in fact any website? If most can recognize the author hasn't put in anything particular, isn't it safe to assume the author hasn't put in anything in particular?Fanart is another realm entirely. People can and will ship anything, with or without textual support. People will ship Bruce Wayne and Alfred, even.
>>2589203>Rin has moments over Ena like she does over Nadeshikoher moments with Ena are completely different that the ones with Nadeshiko. Not saying that the ones with Nadeshiko are 100% gay but the differences with her relationship with Nadeshiko and with the other girls or even the relationships between the secondary characters are completely different to what NadeRin is
>>2589215Shit, if I had known the great yuri authority Dynasty - blessed be Their name - hadn't given it the official Seal of Yuri Approval, I'd never have objected. Carry on, there's no possible rejoinder to that particular killer rebuttal.
>>2589216I suppose but when I see people pointing out examples that are, in their eyes, romantic, I find I can point to Rin doing the same or similar with Ena and that's only friendship apparently.You know but I will give one single thing: the anime is very slightly more suggestive than the manga. I still don't think there's anything to work with, but there are obvious (yet few) differences here and there. On a tangential note I don't particularly like the anime's differences, but that's mainly since I feel like how the series develops naturally on its own needed no changes. I think how the last episode ended was straight criminal. Nadeshiko only recently even STARTED thinking about camping alone in the manga, and it was a surprise!>>2589222You seem kind of upset. Whatever.
>>2589222>Shit, if I had known the great yuri authority Dynasty>>2589215>nor in fact any website
>>2589225Are you the guy who got a massive bee in his bonnet about yuri discussion ruining the entire point of the series or whatever in the /a/ threads, too?You weren't wanted there, and you're wanted even less here.>>2589227I'm sure you think that somehow adds to the point, but it doesn't.
>>2589208>I'm just saying if the man wanted it to be /u/ he has experience with subtext. He decided against it for whatever reason,and in a lot of ways the series is subversive>I can absolutely say there is no yuri-intended subtext>I can totally define entirely what the subtext is>I like to post on /u/ about how series only featuring girls decidedly growing closer can't be interpreted as yuriDidn't know we had an omniscient being as a shitposter here on our very own /u/! Wanna tell me the lotto ticket numbers for the next 10 years?>>2589215>I thought I was backing up what I was saying pretty wellYour argument boiled down to "This is how I interpret it - it must be correct". You chose to place yourself in the author's position and declare that there simply wasn't any subtext or hints or anything based on nothing more than your own interpretation, and then claimed that everyone else was wrong.>Or, is there some other reason Dynasty hasn't given this series a "subtext" tag, nor in fact any website?>muh dynasty argumentThey, and other online sites, don't get the top authority on anything like this. They know the author's intent just as well as any of us do, ie: not at all. There are still people who claim that Madoka's not a yuri show, or that something like the Hibike anime (not the novels) hasn't a shred of yuri subtext. These people, like yourself, are wrong.
>>2589230I'm disagreeing with you. Please settle down. I'm disagreeing with and pointing out why I'm disagreeing with you using common interpretations, the text itself comparatively, and the text in the greater context of genre and the commonalities of subtext. It's not in my opinion that the girls in the series do not exhibit the commonalities of subtextual yuri as is usual for the slice of life genre.I'm not outright dismissing you, per se. I think it's fine if you want them to be gay, but I disagree that you have textual support. So again, I'd thank you not to be so aggressive or insulting.
I wish /u/ would ignore this bait just once.
>>2589233Except you're not just talking about text. You're saying "this is the way the text is supposed to be interpreted", and as soon as you say something like that in a discussion like this, you've arrived at Fuck Off O'Clock.
>>2589235This really kills me. I *love* this series. I love reading about it and talking about it. I bring up why I love it, and it's "bait".I'm really not trying to stir up shit. If anything, I'm trying to explain what I see and what I like, even on a yuri board. As someone who likes yuri myself, I dunno, I think it'd be nice if fans of what I'm a fan of could see my position, rather than wearing blinders.and wanting SO HARD that they will see what they want to see and nothing else. From MY perspective, that means not truly seeing the series' worth, and I'm not laying bait out by saying that.>>2589238The reason I say that is, once more, depending on the greater context of the genre. Thus I repeat, does Yuru Camp exhibit any of the usual flairs of subtext? You mentioned Madoka, but that BLATANTLY has subtext. It's a horrible comparison.
>>2589225The final scene in the anime was clearly meant to be a timeskip.
>>2589240>/u/ - Yuri>Hey guys, the reason why I love this series is how not yuri it is and you're objectively wrong for disagreeing!>Oh my, these fellows seem to object to me. I wonder whatever could be the problem?Also, there is more than one person disagreeing with you here, just so you know and stop telling me what "I" mentioned.
>>2589233>but I disagree that you have textual supportThe anime clearly paints the relationship - be it friendly or romantic - between Nadeshiko and Rin as something stronger, perhaps more profound, than that of either girl and any other girl in the series. Nadeshiko's slight change and Rin's character growth - which, alone, is well done for an SoL work - is rooted in her relationship with Nadeshiko and stems from it. Their scenes together often have a different tone and mood from the rest of the series: scenes like their first sunrise, Nadeshiko's cold, each girl buying souvenirs for only one another, their first real camp together, their closeness in the last episode and the epilogue - all and any of these have moments that can certainly be seen as subtextual support for some kind of a budding romance. Is it 100% canon? No. But it's absolutely not out of the question. >So again, I'd thank you not to be so aggressive or insulting.This might be one of the "nicer" boards, but where the fuck do you think you are? This is 4chan, nee-san. If you want "civil" discussions with people dancing around the point, or think that "aggression" mean's a discussion is over, you're very clearly in the wrong place. Leave, if you can't handle it.
>>2589240>You mentioned Madoka, but that BLATANTLY has subtext. It's a horrible comparison.he means to say that even with the blatant subtext, some people interpret it as not gay, just another way of saying that there's plenty of different ways to interpret something no matter how much you think yours is the right one.and in the end of the day, nobody but the author can really say what it was meant to be.
ITT: people who don't understand how /u/ or goggles work.Seriously a conversation like this would have simply never happened a few years ago. Youngsters nowadays just don't know how to lurk or conform to a board's norms.
>>2589243Yeah that's my problem with it. Same problem with the intro to episode 1. These are two things that are not clear when you're reading the series from the start, so they come as surprises but also as natural developments. Revealing them early for the sake of... I dunno, emotional resonance or something? I think that cheapens it.>>2589250I suppose but I feel like when you have evidence and a lot of reason to believe something that's worth a little more than simply, "I feel this way". That's generally how arguments work at least, though not beliefs sure.>>2589246I did say it's fine if you want to ship them and I was answering someone who asked "is this yuri? and on what scale?" I'm not coming in out of nowhere. I answered honestly and the argument began. Also you replied in a chain, so of course I'm going to think in that case you're the same person. I know there's more than one.>>2589247I guess I just see all that and see nothing. I really just need at least one blush, at least one too-long look, something to switch it from platonic to romantic.Also I think that generally speaking even on 4chan if you're not being a dick or a total moron, lashing out isn't exactly appropriate. Or are you seriously saying civil discussion is impossible on 4chan? I know it isn't.
>>2589253>evidence and a lot of reason to believe something that's worth a little more than simply, "I feel this way". That's generally how arguments work at least, though not beliefs sure.it's not really a argument and your evidence of afro having done subtext before and this not having the same subtext as the other subtext works you've read from him is far weaker evidence than you think it is.
>>2589253>at least one too-long look, something to switch it from platonic to romantic.Did you somehow miss all of those times Rin smiled wistfully and with care towards Nadeshiko, whether the girl saw it or not? There's a good one in ep. 12, before they go to sleep. It's not hard to see something there.>Also I think that generally speaking even on 4chan if you're not being a dick or a total moron, lashing out isn't exactly appropriate. Or are you seriously saying civil discussion is impossible on 4chan? I know it isn't.Calling you out for being an obstinate retard isn't "lashing out". But you're overstepping a line when you try to police a discussion here and act like we're on some shit website where you have to be kind at all moments or risk getting banned. Don't say "I'd thank you not to be so aggressive" like a passive aggressive teenager. Handle arguments as they occur here or don't have them at all. It's farily simple.
>>2589253>I guess I just see all that and see nothing. I really just need at least one blush, at least one too-long look, something to switch it from platonic to romantic.That would be why it's 'goggleable', jeez how new r u
>>2589253You're coming into a discussion of a series' yuri elements with "nah, there's nothing at all, not just in my opinion but also objectively". What about this did you expect to go differently?I'd say go back to /a/, but they didn't want you either.
>>2589255You think my evidence that "this isn't like other things so I don't think it's like other things" isn't evidence/is weak? Well alright.>>2589256>Did you somehow miss all of those times Rin smiled wistfully and with care towards Nadeshiko, whether the girl saw it or not? There's a good one in ep. 12, before they go to sleep. It's not hard to see something there.Everything in my mind just goes back to the platonic experiences of my own life.>try to police a discussion ?>act like we're on some shit website where you have to be kind at all moments Heavens no, though again I've had fair discourse on 4chan plenty of times.>Don't say "I'd thank you not to be so aggressive" like a passive aggressive teenagerNah, I'm actually just saying it like saying it. I've never insulted you myself and am really just trying to hold a discussion. When I've disagreed with someone on 4chan over something petty, I've definitely been downright cantankerous. If we're talking on a point we just don't see eye to eye on and there are things we can point to, I can and have been entirely civil. I've always seen getting extremely defensive, aggressive, and dismissive as blind and childish even here, because I've been here and can know it's not the doom and gloom hell hole people say that it is to stop newfags from getting in. And I know you know that too, otherwise you wouldn't be on this board where most people agree on at least SOMETHING (a love of yuri)/.>>2589257No, to me that's why it ISN'T.>>2589259When I say similar things about Hitoribocchi no OO Seikatsu here I'm generally met with agreement (it's hardly subtext at all, etc). I do post here, I just don't agree with the majority fanbase on this one apparently. I say my thoughts on it, but it's not okay here I guess.
>>2589265Basically the entire point of goggles is seeing what isn't there as opposed to purposeful subtext. Like, that's the fucking joke.
>>2589269Yeah, I know, my issue is with fans saying that it's not only goggles and that there's something there. I ABSOLUTELY know. I also know how to keep it separate. I definitely ship girls who, textually, have no support at ALL. Like, flatly. Some even canonically hate each other, but I ship it. I have my own pair of goggles, but that doesn't mean they've become my eyes. I can still see differently with them off rather than on.
>>2589265this guy is about as good as ACK desunext time I see this kind of posting I'll ignore as intended
>>2589265>it's hardly subtext at all, etcLet's think back. Did you say "it's hardly subtext", or did you say "To suggest it's romantic or that the text is saying "look, it's romantic" is extremely misguided... [This is] interpreting the text as it is meant to be interpreted. Don't say it isn't."?
>>2589265>Everything in my mind just goes back to the platonic experiences of my own life.And here in lies the problem. If everyone interprets the show their own way, they'll see it differently. That's fine. But you're legitimately dumb if you're going to admit that you're seeing the show through a lens of your own experience, and then still claim that the way you see it is somehow more correct or canon or close to the author's intent than everyone else's. Do you not see the limited nature of your argument? It's hypocrisy?>?I've had fair and civil discussions on this site. That's not the question. But to actively call someone out for being "mean" or "uncivil" and asking for the discussion to stay that way is different. That's the policing I'm talking about. Don't think that you should be able to st the tone for any argument by asking like that.
>>2589272Aye, but that's not what I said.
>>2589277Nah just the former admittedly. In Bocchi's case there is subtext though. Actually if anything I've found people a little dismissive of the series here because it lacks subtext so hard people are like, stop talking about it here.You do make a good point, sorry. I'm absolutely touchy because I have my own bias with the series. In my heart it's like the core of Yuru Camp is this very different, very good friendship, and any attempts at dragging it into the many other series that just turn friendship into romance is tarnishing it. I probably feel too strongly about this.>>2589280I WAS saying please. That's not too commanding, is it?Now see I GUESS? But when my experience is colored by the experience of myself, loved ones, and SCADS of similar but notably different fiction it turns from "just my interpretation" to "obvious subversion". Can ya at least see what I'm getting at there?
>>2589281I think I'm dumb on this. What do you mean? Point it out for me, not getting it. I can't IMAGINE you're agreeing with me, though I guess it's possible.
Is this the same guy that posted on /a/ that he dies a little inside when people portray NadeRin as romantic?How some people get so bothered by random people on the internet interpreting an ambiguous relationship differently than them is something that will escape me as long as I live.
>>2589289Imagine if someone started telling you that, hm, Nanoha and Fate are just friends, and Nanoha is in love with that dumb ferret, and they say well duh, because Nanoha and Fate aren't married etc.Or better yet, if you've read it, just remember how you felt about the manga "Stretch". If you've ever felt anger over someone "not getting it", then you actually do understand perfectly.
>>2589286We seem to be agreeing on at least some points. Someone said it was goggleable and you took issue, but to say it's goggleable isn't to say there's purposeful subtext, just that it's easy to imagine characters doing gay shit together. More than anything I definitely think you're overreacting.
>>2589291>Imagine if someone started telling you that, hm, Nanoha and Fate are just friends, and Nanoha is in love with that dumb ferret, and they say well duh, because Nanoha and Fate aren't married etc.I don't need to imagine that, I don't give a shit if someone pairs Nanoha with Yuuno or Chrono or whoever the fuck unless it's someone with influence over the series.
>>2589291If a ferretfag were to somehow be found in 2018, that'd be something to laugh at (and a minor triumph for conservation efforts), not to "die inside", and Stretch was bad because of the author's choices, not readers interpreting it wrong.
>>2589283>Now see I GUESS? But when my experience is colored by the experience of myself, loved ones, and SCADS of similar but notably different fiction it turns from "just my interpretation" to "obvious subversion". Can ya at least see what I'm getting at there?Actually no. You're literally admitting that you're judging authorial intent based on experiences in your own life and still expect anyone here to agree with or see your point. I understand the desire for nice friendships in shows, but in the show I believe there's a clear differences in the kind of friendships between the girls of the outdoor club and the one between Rin and Nadeshiko - the latter being more complex, subtle, and intimate, if not at least subtextually romantic. But if you can't move on from "muh experiences are objective", there's no point in continuing this argument.
>>2589295I'm a bitter fuck who read the manga first, too, so that's probably not helping. In my eyes it's not only "not seeing what I'm seeing" but "missing it and overhyping the anime in return". I've even seen people saying the anime is better, the manga art sucks, and so on. Probably more and more I'm getting close-minded in my own way!Though I still won't budge on the friendship thing, probably. It's the biggest reason I adore the manga.>>2589296Well if you don't feel that way I guess you just don't, but I've seen plenty of righteous fury over it in these years, and as for Stretch, I know for a fact that many have a sore spot over the lack of acknowledgement of obvious romantic tension, among other reasons Stretch is a failure.>>2589297Still I know people were angry at a bold-faced denial of what was there.>>2589299On my life and the greater realm of fiction as a whole. I think you missed that bit.
>>2589291I wouldn't really care and in fact would find it quite understandable because Nanoha's studio are little bitches who won't just show them kissing on screen? And the issue with Stretch was never another fan's interpretation, but how Show played with us and then that fucking awful ending. It wasn't satisfying even if you weren't there for the yuri.
>>2589301Can't argue that EXACTLY. I still think this is sidestepping though. I absolutely know I'm not alone with the amount of rage I've seen over what means what in fiction, so to suggest it's impossible to understand or in any way unusual is laughable to me. It's just "impossible" to understand because it doesn't align with your views at present so you're like, "how absurd, why are you even getting peeved?" That's a general "you", mind you.
>>2589300>but I've seen plenty of righteous fury over it in these yearsI wasn't saying you were the only autistic person that gets mad over it, I'm saying that I don't understand autists like you who get upset over it. >I know for a fact that many have a sore spot over the lack of acknowledgement of obvious romantic tensionThat is completely different when it's the author doing it and not "some random people on the internet." As I said, someone with influence over the series.
>>2589300I'm pretty sure your interpretations of "the greater realm of fiction as a whole" is also subjective.
>>2589305If you think it's autistic to get rustled over fiction (and emotions in general) I feel you may lay on the spectrum yourself, perhaps. You don't seem to have a grasp on why people feel emotions
>>2589303just because it's common doesn't mean that isn't also for retarded reasons 95% of the time. and even in retrospect most of my own rage about fiction was a maladaptive coping mechanism to do with real life shit. ideally people should grow past that eventually. though I'm sure I have a few bugbears I just can't let go either
>>2589309There is a difference between "I was emotionally affected by that work" and "I get mad at internet people who don't share my opinions".Incidentally, if I was the sort of person who did get mad at people who thought Yuuno was the canonical romantic partner for Nanoha - or "die inside" because of them - I think that maybe I wouldn't head to NanoFerret.net to discuss the series once it was clear /a/ was tired of my shit.
>>2589309>If you think it's autistic to get rustled over fictionNo, I said it's autistic to get mad over other people interpreting something in fiction differently. Getting mad about fiction is perfectly fine, which is why I said I would get upset if in the next Nanoha installment Nanoha gets married to Yuno. But getting mad because somebody on 4chan posted that they ship Nanoha and Yuno because Nanoha and Fate haven't married yet is stupid. Nice try on completely misrepresenting my statement though.
>>2589308Eh? Not really. I haven't even gotten a denial of what I said even. Probably because denying it would also be denying that Yuru Camp is subversive at all. Yuru Camp is a genre piece, but it does almost nothing as is usual for the genre. That's part of my argument and includes how the best friends aren't overly close, don't blush over one another, don't seem to want to kiss or hold one another, and so on and so forth.I'll give ONE thing here, and that is that "just because it isn't common doesn't mean it isn't subtext". That said, I don't think it's subtext myself, and much of the reason I think so is that it doesn't align with what I and in fact you (probably) know to be subtext.>>2589310>>2589314>>2589312I don't deny any feelings as retarded because I've got too much respect for fiction. Feel whatever you want to feel over imaginary worlds. As for getting upset over people misinterpreting text and flaunting it, again, I feel this is sidestepping and belittling. I really, really find it hard to believe that you either haven't done it ever, or haven't gotten it ever. Like, seriously, debates over what people believe, what they ship, and so on are so common. You can say you don't get it but I feel like that's just saying it for the sake of disagreement. It's not a difficult concept.
>>2589316>Eh? Not really.To be clear here: you believe your interpretations of all fiction are objectively true?
>>2589318I believe that when I notice commonalities that most people notice are commonalities and say "that seems to be a commonality", that is true.
>>2589316I'm thinking of chicken tendies guy in reaction to Tracer's gf reveal. Yes, fiction can and should evoke emotion in us, but there should be healthy limits to our reactions and behaviors.
>>2589321Well that's not how I react. It's more simmering if anything. Or, to throw myself under a bus, it's more like "you just don't GET it, man"
>>2589319It's a yes or no question.To be clear here: you believe your interpretations of all fiction are objectively true?Also:>>2589316>Feel whatever you want to feel over imaginary worlds"Imaginary worlds" and "people on the internet not thinking the same as me" are not the same thing.>Like, seriously, debates over what people believe, what they ship, and so on are so common"Debates" and "getting mad" are not the same thing.
>>2589316I know this may come as a shock to you, but not everyone gets involved in retarded shipping wars like they have in the Shingeki thread or the old Bleach threads on /a/. Some of us rightfully find it fucking retarded.>I don't deny any feelings as retarded because I've got too much respect for fiction.You're talking to someone who spent two days feeling almost physically ill over how much an ero manga made me feel angry and sad because of what happened to one of the characters. It's precisely because I respect the fiction so much and not "random internet denizen #512 and their headcanon" that I ignore the latter if I think it's stupid. Again, there's a very, very big difference between "something that actually fucking happens in the work" and "something someone literally made up on the internet."
>>2589323I can understand your pov and still disagree with your interpretation. Or at the very least your insistence that your interpretation is the only correct one.
>>2589324>>To be clear here: you believe your interpretations of all fiction are objectively true?No. However, anon, this is the kind of question that ignores the point. I'm not talking about my interpretation when I talk about the usual. What I'm talking on that point is statistic. Counting the number of occurrences and using that to BOLSTER my interpretation and argument.>>Like, seriously, debates over what people believe, what they ship, and so on are so common>"Debates" and "getting mad" are not the same thing.I know. Just saying that getting mad over debates happens. It seems to have happened here, seeing as I got registered as "bait". I assume people still think I'm betting.
>>2589329>bettingbaiting* Apparently I'm thinking in kana>>2589327Tis fair.
>>2589329You're counting (actually, let's face it, no you fucking aren't; this is no "statistic", this is "I think this stuff is most similar to some of this other stuff") the occurances of other things you interpret as being or not being subtext. It's just as filtered through your own perception as everything else.
>>2589329Someone calling something bait hardly means the poster is mad. It means they're tired of the other poster posting the same shit trying to start an argument over and over again, and calling it bait is an attempt to nip that in the bud.>I assume people still think I'm betting.No, at least I just think you have a problem.
>>2589333I'm counting instances of blushing, fawning, thoughts of attraction, handholding, hugging, eyeballing boobs, groping. These are observations, not interpretations. I guess you can say "it's up to you whether any of that is subtext" but holy shit I have NEVER believed that, that is too absurd. Like fuck, what even is "gay" if "acting gay" is not gay? If it fucking walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it's a cat? No.>>2589336Meh.
>>2589337>I'm counting instances of blushing, fawning, thoughts of attraction, handholding, hugging, eyeballing boobs, gropingNo, you aren't. Show me your spreadsheet.And even if you were, I'm not sure what your point here is supposed to be. That those things can be subtext was never under question. The issue is what CAN'T be subtext, and to that end your comment is a complete nonsequitur.>>2589329I'm sure you genuinely believe in your own nonsense, but I'm also sure that you wanted someone to engage with and acknowlege it, and since /a/ was alternatively ignoring and laughing at you, you came somewhere you knew would be easier to goad into an argument despite (or perhaps because of) the topic being the complete antithesis of the board's content.
>>2589348Anon, I told you that the things in Yuru Camp can be interpreted as subtext and that on that point I disagreed. I think you want to think I'm wrong so deeply that you're not actually reading what I'm saying. Here>>2589316>I'll give ONE thing here, and that is that "just because it isn't common doesn't mean it isn't subtext". That said, I don't think it's subtext myself, and much of the reason I think so is that it doesn't align with what I and in fact you (probably) know to be subtext.That's what I said. In other words, "sure, you can see it that way, but here's why I don't think you ought to". But you can see it that way. And honestly mate no, I've had people agree with my on /a/ and even on /u/. People on /u/, very few of them (2, maybe?) said they're just friends and that it's delusional to see otherwise, and to shut me down was really dismissive. On /a/ I've seen it more, people praising the series for having a really nice portrayal of friendship, and saying they don't see it as romantic. There are also people who don't say that. You are focusing on one instance of my admitting things to which some people went "kek kek look at this autist!" and imagining a scenario in which I've taken "refuge" on /u/ of all places. Well, no anon. That is not so. I'm just talking again and you're not wanting to listen at all. That's cool, I'm pretty "fingers in my ears" myself on things.
>>2589356>>I'll give ONE thing here, and that is that "just because it isn't common doesn't mean it isn't subtext". That said, I don't think it's subtext myself, and much of the reason I think so is that it doesn't align with what I and in fact you (probably) know to be subtext.So how does "counting" (once again: no you fucking aren't) instances of those things add to this line of reasoning? The question isn't whether those elements exist, the question is whether subtext means those elements exclusively, which is something you've decided prima facie.So you finish your highly scientific experiment and find 1837 incidents of those things. Now what? All you've found is that Yuru Camp doesn't have any of the things you consider to be subtext, which is something you already knew from the start when you decided what you would consider to be subtext.>and to shut me down was really dismissiveYup. Please be dismissed ASAP. If /a/ loves you, all the better; go bother them.
>>2589365Can I just ask, why are you denying what subtext is and what we consider to usually be subtext? I'm asking. I won't suggest an answer I think you have, I want to know why you're dismissing what I'm saying.It's hard not to give my interpretation of what I think you're thinking, but I'll hold off because I want to see your unclouded reasoning as to why subtext doesn't exist as a thing objectively, and why it can't be considered, and why counting it doesn't matter. Of course I haven't taken a survey or something but we've both... Nope, again, I'll hold off.
>>2589368>Can I just ask, why are you denying what subtext is and what we consider to usually be subtext?Who exactly is "we"? It's evidently not the people in this thread.You are begging the question.
>>2589371No, I was asking as in you and I, and certainly most fans of yuri in general.I harbor a disbelief that you think there isn't something most fans of this category of fiction judge to be "subtextual yuri". Also I would argue that if the elements most have agreed upon to be telltale signs of subtext (that is to say, not directly stated but instead implied) are not present, than subtext is not present. I would argue if the interpretation of subtext could be so free it would be too free, because then brothers and sisters all become examples of incestuous subtext, men and women friends become subtextually romantic. But y'know? You CAN argue that, I think. I just think it's ridiculous. If everything is subtext, nothing is. It's also annoying to hide behind subjectivity entirely, I've always felt, because subjectivity is truly a catchall for any interpretation. It takes anything common and observable, anything logical, and dismisses it in the face of not reason, but emotion or feeling. So, personally, I try to back up what I'm thinking with other things. It's what I learned in school, anyway. If you have a thought, one means of explaining and "proving" it is the means of using other works or opinions to show why this opinion has more merit. I guess in the end it's subjective, you're right, but it approaches objectivity so close that I don't know about that. After all, you're not taking your own thoughts into account solely.You will not agree with me. You think I'm an idiot, you'll say go back to /a/ even though I post here frequently. I don't really want to drop it because I kinda just want you to see what I'm saying but you won't. I do see what YOU'RE saying, and I think it's fairly bullshit. We're not going to change each others' minds. For what it's worth, to anyone else looking at this bullshittery on my end and thinking I'm totally moronic: my mind has been changed today, if only a bit. I'm not so annoyed by all this anymore, so thanks for that.
>>2589375>No, I was asking as in you and I, and certainly most fans of yuri in general.Then I'm not going to dignify "why are you arguing when you know I'm right" with an answer, other that to again point out that you're begging the question by inserting a definition of subtext into the premise of a discussion about what subtext is.>Also I would argue that if the elements most have agreed upon to be telltale signs of subtext (that is to say, not directly stated but instead implied) are not present, than subtext is not presentThen you'd be wrong. The categorization of fiction, such as it has any meaning at all, happens on the level of the work considered as a whole, not reducing it to a checklist.>because then brothers and sisters all become examples of incestuous subtext, men and women friends become subtextually romanticHardly "all", just as very few people would argue subtext in this series outside of Rin and Nadeshiko. But that relationship does come off as romantic to many people - just not because of reductivist attempts to quantify a set of Approved Subtext Criteria. If we're going to incest: remember that Folgers commercial? It didn't leave the impression it did because of any specific "and then she blushed at him!" moment, but because of how their interactions taken as a whole were colored.> I guess in the end it's subjective, you're right, but it approaches objectivity so close that I don't know about that.It doesn't. As you yourself said, you try to back up what you're thinking with other things. Humans are very good at finding evidence that backs up something they already believe instinctively. You aren't becoming more objective, because the initial gut reaction was never objective - you're just convincing yourself that the opinions you already hold are correct, and that goes doubly when it comes to interpreting human relationships, which are based on subjective and variously-expressed feelings in the first place.
>>2589388I suppose, but even in your Folgers commercial what people used as "evidence" was that rather than sibling love, it carried a lot of tones of romantic love. I think in the end I really want to refuse the simplicity of saying "hey whatever works, whatever you think is the truth" because I absolutely hate that, I think that there's almost always a "truth" to something, and the closest things to truth are either the common interpretation, or the author's own belief.But even as I type I realize I have opinions not related to YC that are neither of these, and that I am in essence denying my own argument by supporting the other side. I'm being hypocritical, but it's probably more that I can't entirely argue this point. I'm left to repeating, "if the interpretation is too loose, then it is too loose". There are less reasons to support one idea than the other, so I say "nay".
>this threadI see that this series keeps causing fires.
>wake up>90 new posts>all of them are just wall of text shitpostsNope. Can we go back in time to last week?
>>2589391>>2589475Report the posts, and then also send a email to admin using the form on the feedback page.
Can a mod delete the last 80 posts in the thread? I don't think anyone has enough daily reports to report all of them, thanks.
>>2589760I think killing the guy or locking him in a dungeon would be more effective.
>>2589760You can achieve the same effect by going to the Feedback page and just use the Submit Feedback link and then write a message listing the posts that need to be removed. Make sure that the category field is showing "Moderation Feedback"
>>2589475>>2589760Sorry for contributing to that, anons. I don't even go here, that guy was just bothering me.
In order to move past that bullshit and the anon who managed to derail the thread: will Rin ever invite Nadeshiko for a ride on her beloved scooter?
>>2590208Kinda surprising it didn't happen already. But two girls + their camping equipment don't fit.
>>2590208I think that's illegal in Nipland, so they better be ready for the thug life.
Great series, but it really attracts the worst fans, as you can see.
>>2590249It's just one mentally disturbed guy, the fanbase is pretty good when they're not causing forest fires.
>>2590269>when they're not causing forest fires
>>2590286Just the thing I wanted to see.
Oi. Is this the new meme?
>>2590351I never got the impression that Ena liked Rin like that, even if she seemingly was Rin's only friend for a while. It felt more like she was just looking out for Rin. But a little angst never hurt anyone.
>>2590351>>2590375Ena is a good girl and supports Rin, but it seems that people really like this kind of thing.>But a little angst never hurt anyone.Ena is crying so...
Nade looks like she is trying to summon someone here? Who?
>>2590359This is nonsense. Ena actively wanted for Rin to get new friends. And Rin becomes more than friends with Nade, all Ena has to do is join in.>>2590703The god of comfyness.
>>2590703>Nade looks like she is trying to summon someone here? Who?Looks more like she is watching the goddess of yuri or the goddess of yummy food descend to earth.
>>2590351>Hey, Rin.>Hey there.>This may be a bit sudden but~>It really is out of the blue.>Have you noticed my feelings?>Hey, Rin.>What do you think>about Nadeshiko-chan?>I think>I probably>like her.>You haven't, have you?>I thought so.>Is it something you can tell just by looking?>I could tell right away.>We're friends, after all. You suit each other.>Thanks.>I can't honestly wish for someone's happiness when it makes me feel so bad in return.
>>2590820The last bit is that she hated herself. 願えない clause is relative.
Is Nade part puppy?
>>2591273I wonder what would happen if you were to run them over with car like that.
>>2592628>two campers sitting 5 feet apart because they're Not Gay
Nadeshiko with "come here and fuck me" eyes?
>>2593968Is this a gag translation?
>>2594132What? No, did you seriously thought that art was as good as Afro's?
>>2594135Art doesn't matter when the goggles are foggy.
>>2594135That art actually looks like TKMZ.
>>2592628>>2592703Underrated pairing. The OVA with them was really cute.
>>2593968Rin and Nade's relationship being super obvious to everyone around is one of my favourite things about the ship.
>>2592628I like the art here. And Aoi's aois
>>2594138>That art actually looks like TKMZ.Have you ever seen tkmz's art? The art in that pic is far too even-handed and detailed, and the shading is definitely not like tkmz's.
Look what Rin bought.
>Rin-chan!>I made nabe! Let's eat together!>Right.
>It's delicious, as always.>Ehehe~ I know, right?>You know,>I haven't been able to solo camp lately since you've always been with me.>And that one would just tell her, anyway.>But, but!>We split the cost for the ingredients, and you get this poor old lady's cooking all to yourself, young'un!>You're one one who has it mostly to herself.>Look, aren't the stars beautiful?>Mm.>...Isn't it peaceful?>There's a rowdy one right next to me, though.
>Hey, Rin-chan?>What?>Do you like solo camping, after all?>...Yeah.>But I like camping with everyone as well.>In a way, I just can't get enough of camping with you, Nadeshiko.>A way? What d'you mean?>I mean that seeing your expression change at everything is amusing.>Eh? It kind of feels like you're making fun of me.>I am.>You are!?
>Basically... um...>You're always so bright and cheerful, Nadeshiko...>Always eating so happily...>Just being together is fun... or something...>So, honestly, if you could be with me from now on>I think... I'd be happy.>Rin-chan...>...Yeah! I'll aaaalways cling super close to you!>Don't do that.>And I still want to go solo camping now and then... Hey, don't cling like that!>Hehehe... Don't be so shy, Rin-chan! >Let-go-of-me!
>>2595873That's too adorable to be legal
>>2596008Nadeshiko: > Yes Rin-chan, I'll give you this scarf to wear. > When we get home, let's play a lot, k?Rin:> *cat noises*
>>2596008Who would you rather have, a caring and gentle dom or a sadistic and ruthless one?
Rin as seen through Nadeshiko-vision.
>>2597489Nadeshiko's got great eyes, then
>>2598006Speaking of watersports, what do you nee-san think are the campers' fetishes?
>>2598061Nadeshiko: high-speed tribbingRin: low-impact consensual cuddlingAoi: nursing+fingeringChiaki: cunnilingusEda: fucking with strap-on
>>2578717I saw this on melon doujin but I don't know how to buy things from there internationally.
>>2598006They get Rin to go out in the heat and bugs?
>>2598183She went camping with nade in the spring at the end of the series (after the timeskip).
>>2598197They were still in jackets. March is not a lot warmer than November.
This is an interesting pairing.
>>2598226More like in denial
>>2598226Please don't post boys on /u/. Rin only likes girls.
Rin about to be attacked by two horny girls...
>>2598433I think you misunderstood, onee-chan. that's Ena Saitou, she's a girl
>>2598497I'm sure he is. You can be anything nowadays.
Wonder if there'll be a S2 featuring Spring or Summer camping.
>>2598085>Aoi: nursing+fingeringNow how did she learn that I wonder?
>>2599101>mitorunKansaiben is some fucked up shit.
>>2599147Accents and local dialects and the like are the worst part of learning any language. When I did Italian back in high school,, Sicilian might as well have been something entirely different. Learning moon now, I'm pretty happy that I haven't had to come across Kanseiben all that much. Nip internet slang is its own animal too.
still hoping/waiting for a "doing the first time in a tent up in the mountains" fic