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Anime : 12 episodes
OP : nano.RIPE - Azalea : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNfXwN5JQvg
ED : Mia REGINA - Dear Teardrop : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ha9_SFTK8
OST : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vtbpVVTPgg
Countdown arts : http://www.mediafire.com/file/ti3hub68hp1lvwi/Promotional%20citrus%20countdown.zip
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Studio : Passione (Hinako Note)
Director : Takahashi Takeo (Hinako Note)
Series Composition : Hayashi Naoki (Flip Flappers)
Character Design/Animation Direction : Ijuuin Izuro (Working!!!)
Music : Lantis (Tari Tari, Glasslip...)

Main Cast members announced :
Aihara Yuzu : Taketatsu Ayana (Date A Live - Kotori, High School DxD - Koneko, K-On - Azusa, Oreimo - Kirino)
Aihara Mei : Tsuda Minami (Yuru Yuri - Yui, The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls - Miho)
Taniguchi Harumi : Fujii Yukiyo (Amagi Brilliant Park - Latifa, Re:Zero Mimi)
Momokino Himeko : Kubo Yurika (Love Live - Hanayo, Galko-chan - Fushigi-chan)
Mizusawa Matsuri : Izawa Shiori (Sword Art Online - Argo, Symphogear - Micha)
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Manga : Ongoing

Scans on Dynasty : https://dynasty-scans.com/series/citrus
Anthology booklet short stories : https://dynasty-scans.com/series/citrus_anthology_lovely_party
Anthology book : https://dynasty-scans.com/series/citrus_anthology

Translations are done by Chaosteam (CT)

Latest translation: Chapter 38: Twins get Yuzu to talk about her problems and Yuzu decides to talk to her mom about something.

Next
- Chapter 39, 18th of June

DVD and blue-Ray : 3 episodes per volume
Volume 4 : 3rd of July

Drama CD volume 4 :
Track 1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8yMiqyEuVw
Track 2 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJE9oO47FVo
Track 3 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCMFjDOaY6A
Track 4 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36K5TmmGTq8

Drama CD volume 9 :
Track 1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wWcUKK68qg&t=23s
Track 2 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXEUfYGOIH4&t=194s
Track 3 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyAlJ2qROP8
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Will we see Mei or does the author keep her for the last pages of volume 10?
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>>2631891
She might show up next chapter, since Yuzu was likely asking her mom to set up a chance for her to meet with Mei, so they can talk.
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>>2631593
>The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Harumin confessing as a catalyst for Mei and Yuzu to get together for the final story arch, to then move on to a sequel series that features her as the main character, with the rest of the cast as support. It would allow us to see Mei X Yuzu developing as a stable relationship, while Harumin is intriguing enough to carry her own storyline.
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Who else wanted Yuzu to kill herself when she found out Mei was gonna get dicked?
Just caught up today. Her death would put Mei in one hell of a guilt trip, it would have been hilarious.
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>>2632092
What is wrong with you.
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>>2632092
The MC who is also the manga PoV. Sure ... Even Saburouta on crack after one month of sniffing coke wouldn't dare to do that.
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>>2632124
It'd be a great way to end the series you know.
I mean, screw happy endings, we get that a lot nowadays. Saburouta should ride the despair train to the very end and finish it with a bang!
Give me some of that grimderp.
I can imagine Yuzu's mom finding her body with open wrists in the bathtub, overdose in her bedroom or hung herself in the veranda.
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>>2631582
I really wish Harumin was also running for the Yuzubowl from the start. I really like her character.
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>>2632135
Like the fiance thing from volume 1, it might just be something the author was saving to bring back in the series toward the end of it. Harumin did tease/flirt with Yuzu in the early volumes, and the volume 3 bonus chapter had Matsuri outright tell Harumin that she thought Harumin had feelings for Yuzu. Harumin denied it at first, but just kept silent when Matsuri told Harumin she could sense it.
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Why do I have the impression we won't see Mei at all or indirectly.
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>>2632322
As some other anons predicted she might not show up until end of chapter 40 or the start of chapter 41 in order to build more tension.

Something might happen where Yuzu might not be able to meet with Mei right away. Or Mei might turn down the meeting and just send Yuzu another letter.
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>>2632322
Mei-be, Mei-be not.
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>>2632327
"Ne Yuzu"
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>>2632327
I wish old Yuzu comes out again and just kicks in the door.
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>>2632306
I’m really interested to see what will happen between Yuzu and Harumin. I mean, Harumin’s behavior in chapter 37 is really strange. I’m starting to believe that she’s really in love with Yuzu.
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>>2632399
That's the thing. Many people just expect Yuzu and Mei to get right back together, but Saburouta might throw Harumin into the mix as a curve ball to complicate things and force Mei to change her mind.
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>>2632411
>Many people just expect Yuzu and Mei to get right back together,
I don't think that's true. Some of the younger ones, perhaps, but anyone who has a clue about how storytelling works, knows there's more than meets the eye to this.
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>>2632413
It's the only chance to use Harumin without making her seem like a homewrecker.
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>>2632422
..Because I felt like ...
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>>2632424
...Posting these.
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>>2632092
>>2632130
Wtf is a smelly fatass cuck waifufag doing here?
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Okay onee-samas, there are 5 days or so until the new chapter is out, so place your predictions, what do you think Yuzu will do next chapter?

For me, 85% chances are she's going to confront Mei about what she had just learnt from Sara. There are 10% chances she does something unrelated to Mei or the Aihara, 4% chances she goes to her friends for help (as in, she reflected about what Sara told her she was acting like Mei, and decided to first work on herself, which is what Mei ought to have done), 1% chances she goes to Gramps, calls Shou or does something that involves both of them.
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Just chiming in to say thanks to everyone here for bringing this series to my attention. I don't know why I haven't heard of it until today but I'm almost done with the anime episodes. I love it, I love it a lot.
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>>2632521
99% chances are is that she will run after her, say some pseudo-emotional stuff and have a happy ending.
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>>2632583
Too soon for that. Nothing has been dealt with with Mei's family and last we saw of Harumin she was acting weird. I'd expect more drama before a resolution.
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>>2632588
Harumin is just being her usual self. She's acting the way she acted during the time her sister showed up to stir up trouble.
As fun as she might be, Harumi is a coward. She's not good at dealing with problems and she prefers not to get involved in other people's issues, no matter who they are - probably in order to avoid getting herself hurt as Matsuri pointed out.
Whether we'll see why Harumi became like this is up to Saburouta. Personally, I don't see its relevance in the current plot, but I think it could make for a nice spin-off - which would likely do well considering MatsuHaru is rather popular.
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>>2632639
Harumin's issues could actually tie into the strict family plot. Saburouta said during the anime that the women attended the academy since Harumin's grandmother's time and that Harumin's family is full of scary people. So even if no one in Harumin's family besides Mitsuko has been shown yet (Saburouta expressed interest in expanding on Harumn's family at some point), they are still a source of stress for Harumin.

And as you pointed out, Harumin hasn't gotten her character development yet. She didn't change after volume 5, because unlike many people thought, her real issues weren't tied to Mitsuko. It feels like Harumin and Matsuri are developing into their out sub/sideplot at this point in the story. These issues were introduced in Citrus, so I'm not sure they'd save it for a spinoff.
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>>2632728
That's why i said it would depend on Saburouta. If she wants to make Harumin's issues into something simple, I can see it being incorporated into Citrus - which seems to be in its last stage.
However, if Saburouta feels like going deep into this and expanding on Harumi's family, she could very easily go for a spin-off.
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What?
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It was drawn with her non-dominant hand.
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>>2633081
Like we needed a picture to figure out she prefers dominant.
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>>2633075
This is how Mei feels right now, all squiggly and a complete mess with nothing but her teddy to comfort her.
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>>2633565
Why is the teddybear such a mess?
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i want YUZU x HARUMIN
it's NOT FAIR
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While I can understand the point of the current conflict in the manga, it sucks that it had the unintended effect of making most fanfiction for the series turn into repetitive angst about Mei leaving Yuzu for years, possibly being married to Udagawa for a time, and maybe having a kid or 2 with him. Only one story I can think of did well with this premise and that's Uncomfortable Truths.
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>>2634034
My fantasies would be fulfilled with a Harumin confession.
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>>2634116
We all know she'd be rejected, but that could be a nice character moment, where Harumin feels freed by confessing her feelings and can finally start to let them go and move on.

Of course, it's possible that Harumin doesn't like Yuzu that way and is only acting distant due to her usual hangup of not getting involved with other peoples problems.
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>>2634116
i cant handle her being rejected
they're so perfect for each other and it's not fucking fair
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>>2634067
Yes. But it's funny how some readers thinks that something like that will actually happen in the manga. I mean, this would be horrible for the Comic Yurihime Magazine and Saburouta's career. To be honest, this arc is giving a bitter taste, i don't think i'll be able to ship Yuzu and Mei like i used to.
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>>2634132
The timeskip and sudden character changes give the series an entirely different feel from before. It feels disconnected from the earlier volumes now.
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>>2634143
Yes. But right now it seems that Yuzu is back. The little smile in the chapter 38 is a good signal. Maybe everything will start to get better.
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>>2634132
Same for me. The conflict was fine as long as Mei was giving Yuzu mixed signals but the moment they felt almost on the same page and Yuzu was confident in their relationship being reciprocated, it crumbled and this bitterness destroyed the dynamic. After chapter 36 the manga made the buzz but people are almost indifferent now, they are just waiting for the resolution without passion anymore.

I believe the author missed the occasion to give a final memorable arc.
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>>2634381
I don't know. She chose to go drama route instead of having Yuzu and Mei actually get closer as a couple leading up to their final year in high school, have fun, and graduate happily. Just coming out to their family could've been a big final drama, but no, it's cliche arranged marriage plot, along with Shiraho and Himeko being revealed as having fiances too.
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>>2634386
Honestly there are way way way too many cliché arranged marriage plots in yuri, and Citrus is just another one.
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>>2634430
That might be the problem, maybe Saburouta or her editor wanted to play it safe for what's possibly the last arc.
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>>2634143
> It feels disconnected from the earlier volumes now.
I think it's probably mostly the effect of not having had any Citrus chapters for 2 months, especially after that cliffhanger.
The fact Yuzu has been depressed for the 2 chapters since the break, and that the last time we saw Mei was in... uhhh... January (?) doesn't help either, and the current t feeling is gloomy, which considering the current development, is clearly intentional.
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>>2634607
Kind of funny they do a timeskip and the following 2 months of no new chapter gave readers a sense of chapter 35 having been a long time ago.
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As I said, it seems to me the series lost its momentum and couldn't surf on the anime's ending and chapter 36's shock.

But, I can understand the author wants to create a salty, sour and bitter atmosphere. I just hope it has the purpose to create another shock and awaken a little the readers and the fanbase.

Cause it really seems that people, including hardcore fans and followers who stuck with the manga since its beginning, aren't excited anymore.
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>>2634746
The series started as drama-fulled 'will they, won't they get together'. This grabbed many readers attention. Though I think they should've gotten together around Christmas rather than dragging it out with a very silly misunderstanding for an entire volume afterward.

Their relationship phase was a new kind of engaging. We see them steadily get closer and it seemed like it was building to Mei finally telling Yuzu she loves her, but no, volume 9 subverted this expectation that many readers had or were hoping for. Many readers were even in denial once it became clear the arranged marriage plot was back and kept thinking the other characters were jumping to conclusions until Mei had her meeting with her grandfather.

Embracing a cliche twist that's been seem numerous times in other yuri series lost many people their enthusiasm. It makes the series feel more cookie cutter than it could've been. The way it was handled also made Mei look very bad to many people in the west. And of course there were the hiatuses in December and March, with March not even having the usual bonus chapter to help cover for it. It really messed with the pacing and helped lose any momentum the anime helped to build.

We're now just waiting for the inevitable resolution to this arc, and possibly the series if this is indeed the last obstacle.So by volume 12 could be the end. But I'm going to say if this is indeed the final arc, then it's been very underwhelming so far.
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>>2634762
It's just that some readers wanted Mei to chase after Yuzu. But as expected, Yuzu will be the one to save the day again. To make things worse, Mei will probably act like a retard again.

This arc feels so wrong right now. To be honest, i just wanted Yuzu to get together with Harumin and let Mei live a unhappy life. But this won't happen, so yeah.
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Mei has had absolutely zero character development in 5 years. I can't blame readers, even long-time, hardcore fans, for feeling underwhelmed, disconnected, and disappointed.
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>>2634810
Mei has developed some internally, but the problem is she still won't take the stand to act on her new outlook when it really mattered.
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>>2634810
It's sad. Right now i don't even know if she deserves to get together with Yuzu again.
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>>2634843
She doesn't. It's what I've said before, Mei has been the passive on in the relationship, she needs to show that she wants to be with Yuzu as much as Yuzu wants to be with her. Which is why this whole thing was long overdue.
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>>2634843
>>2634863
Yuzu deserves so much better than Mei. Mei does not deserve Yuzu.
Yuzu, can be a baka at times, and can rush headlong into things without making proper judgement; but has a good heart, and and deeply cares for those that she loves. Yuzu is sweet, compared to the unfeeling and avoiding Mei.
Yuzu put her heart and soul into loving Mei. Mei did not reciprocate. Throughout their entire "relationship", Mei was never into it. Maybe she felt lonely and wanted companionship, maybe she just didn't want to break Yuzu's sweet heart of gold. Maybe both. But Yuzu deserves someone better.

Although she can't have Harumin because I love MatsuHaru lol, but anyone else.
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>>2634902
>Mei was never into it. Maybe she felt lonely and wanted companionship, maybe she just didn't want to break Yuzu's sweet heart of gold. Maybe both.
Mei was bad at showing it alot of the time, but she's had feelings for Yuzu by at least the end of volume 2 when the spark kiss happened. Volume 4 showed she couldn't just go along with someone who confesses to her, it had to be Yuzu. And volume 7 was Mei admitting to Shiraho that she loved Yuzu.
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>>2631860
Dropped the anime as soons as the best friend and Yuzu started to "compete" for Mei. Mei is a piece of shit and doesn't deserve the amount of effort yuzu puts into their "relationship"
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>>2634915
They're not in a relationship by that point anyway. They start dating very end of chapter 16, start of chapter 17.
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>>2634918
gorgeous pic
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>>2634914
Mei's affection for Yuzu isn't even a sliver of a fraction of what Yuzu's affection for Mei was.
>>2634915
Correct. Yuzu puts in maximum effort, and Mei puts in nothing. It's almost like Mei actively tries to be miserable. She deserves to be after everything that happened.
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>>2634923
saburouta is miserable, that's why she can't improve her characters
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>>2634939
I think she's a fan of dysfunctional characters and dysfunctional relationships. She also loves playing with genre cliches. She can do some great character moments, but her truly doing something original is very unlikely.
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>>2634941
Saburouta is a great artist, I'll give her that.
But her story development, the prevalence of unexplained plot holes, character development...
Bad. Really, really, bad.
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>>2634964
I think the issue is when the series started she didn't think it would go on for as long as it has, since most yuri series are like 3 volumes max. So she didn't really have Mei's character defined at the start of the series, since she probably thought she wouldn't have the time to give Mei complexity.

Same issue probably with many of the plot issues. She most likely just expanded the story however she felt like at the time with no clear goal in mind, except for bringing the arranged marriage plot back at the end as the grand finale.
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>>2634923
>Mei puts in nothing
That's probably due to her upbringing though. We've been shown Mei cannot function without rules. For her, rules are everything, to the point she even decided to use Yuzu's retarded notebook as an actual guide for date, clearly stating that without it she had no idea what to do.

So, Mei always knew that she would never be able to give Yuzu what she wanted, because she was aware that at some point her responsibilities would catch up to her and that she would oblige.

I said it once before, but when Shou abandoned her, the biggest shock to Mei probably wasn't that her father left her, but that he broke the rules. For her, Shou was an example of what she had to become, and once he broke from that mold nothing made sense to her, because for her rules are absolute.

Yuzu, unlike Mei, is a free spirit who is only bound to whatever she wants to be bound. So, for Mei Yuzu was probably something she knew she couldn't become, and that's why she never went to great lengths for her because she was aware that, in the end, she would do whatever her grandfather told her to.

As for why she remained around Yuzu for so long? She did love her. Mei really liked being around Yuzu, and she clearly was the happiest around her. This is clear in how she cried when they were trying the wedding dresses. Mei wants a future with Yuzu, but she just can't find it in herself to break the rules she believes she's bound to.
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>>2634964
What is a plot hole?
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>>2635156
Maybe plot hole is the wrong word. But in every single volume, a random character pops out of nowhere and causes trouble. This is especially true in volume 9. I guess the plot is less of a hole, and more of, I suppose, "contrived", would be the correct word.
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>Yurihime of this month (planned the 18th).
As expected, Citrus 39 is planned in this issue

This means raws should be out on the 17th for many people due to timezones. Only a few more days away and cover of chapter 39 should drop a bit earlier than that.
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>>2635141
I can buy that Mei is acting in-character for someone with her upbringing and personality. But that doesn't make me want to root for her any more. If she manages to fight all of that and chase Yuzu for the sake of love then I'd like her.
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>>2635177
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big fan of how Saburouta ended up writing Mei, but I do think it's worth it to try to see what point she's trying to send across.
For one, the latest chapter showed us how it was required for a pair of "outsiders" to show up to solve a problem the people involved couldn't (Yuzu's depression). And Yuzu learned that the helplessness she was facing was the same thing Mei has been feeling all along.
I think that works well with a critique that Saburouta seems to have been making on Japanese culture when it comes down to expressing yourself freely, which is looked down upon in Japanese society. Notice how Yuzu, a free-spirited girl, irradiates happiness to everyone around her. On the other hand, you have Mei who, by traditional standards, is pretty much a model girl who is admired by her peers. However, unlike Yuzu, Mei is trapped in her own circumstances. She isn't free or happy, and she simply does what she's expected to.

If you've read/watched Welcome to the NHK, Mei's progression has been like that of the characters in that story. She makes a bit of progress and then goes back several steps. This is because her issues run deep in her mind, and some kindness and goodwill won't make them go away. She's carried those issues for most of her life, and in her case said issues involve a variety of factors ranging from her own family rules, to societal expectations and the culture she was raised in. So, whilst many readers expect her to show some linear character development that won't happen because not only is Mei Saburouta's main vehicle for drama, Mei has been written in both an overt and subtle fashion to show that she's been heavily affected by what she experienced in her upbringing.

Also, notice that the story doesn't try to pass Gramps or Shou as bad people, even though they are the prime culprits in turning Mei into the troubled person she is today, probably because they're also a result of the society they were raised in.
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>>2635200
I tend to agree with you. Mei's trying to figure out what she wants, and the school has been such a core part of her life, ofcourse she can't just give it up like that.
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>>2634941
She's a fan of not knowing what to do with her characters. Even yuzu is not developed. She's just more aggressive, too direct, which is rather a turn off. I understand saburouta wants to communicate that you should follow your heart and not let go, but she doesn't know how to put that in a story.
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Found some scans on facebook. Yuzu talks with her mom, Mei's dad is back, twins appear again, Yuzu talks with Harumi, overall Yuzu looks pretty happy and determined. No Mei so far
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>>2635333
So mei's dad will also know about their relationship. So everyone gathered and they will all run after mei and then a pseudo emotional thing will happen and mei loves yuzu and yuzu loves mei and everyone is happy because everyone sees them as soul mates.
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>>2635333
>>2635374
Does Mom know, though? I can't recall.
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>>2635374
nips already saw Shou coming back. it seems that he will stop grandpa
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>>2635374
None of this proves anyone knows Yuzu loves Mei romantically yet, just that Yuzu wants Mei to be given a choice in her own future. Maybe what Yuzu asked was for Ume to call Shou back home to confront Mei and tell her what he told Yuzu clear back in volume 2.

>>2635376
Oh great, Mei's problems being solved for her yet again.

>>2635333
>Yuzu talks with Harumi
Hopefully this goes okay, but if Matsuri was right this could throw a wrench into things.
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What if the series doesn't progress like we expect? What if maybe Mei chooses to travel together with Shou in order to have time to find herself? And then her and Yuzu just exchange letters and reunite as a couple at the end of the series.
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>>2635395
As long as she chooses her own path, i don't mind it.
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>>2635316
Yuzu is always so lovely! She deserves to be happy...

So Shou will really avoid the marriage...maybe Mei will come back to live with Yuzu again...
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A pet rock does more own its own than Mei does.
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>>2635382
>>Yuzu talks with Harumi
I hope it's Yuzu contacting Harumin because she wants to explain why she's been so distant. So she tells Harumi how she feels about Mei and Harumin just smiles and says she already knew. I don't want there to be any Yuzu/Harumin drama.
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>>2635430
We'll see. Hopefully this chapter will settle things for all either way. Only downside could be is it ends as a cliffhanger of Harumin wanting to tell Yuzu something, or Harumin acting weird after Yuzu talks to her.
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>>2635433
>Harumin acting weird
Well, I never.
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>>2635430
Yuzu telling Harumin what's been up with her makes sense, but I wonder if Yuzu will ask Harumin about herself, since we've never gotten confirmation if Harumin's engaged or not.

Also, things are going a bit too smoothly. Surely we won't get a rushed volume 10 ending to the series with the bonus chapter being the epilogue.
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>nothing but sadness
>Sara appears
>everything gets solved in one chapter
How does she do it.
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>>2635458
Deus ex machina
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>>2635316
Yuzu is beautiful as fuck.
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Yuzu tells Sara that she feels relief after telling her what happened with Mei, and that she sees everything clearer.
What does she see clearer? What to do? or Mei behavior?
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>>2635503
Mei's motive
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>>2635382
>>2635375
i was just predicting what will happen
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>>2635395
that would be a total regress from her. The drama until now would be pointless so i doubt it will be like that.
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>>2635458
by being in a cheap story
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>>2635536
The drama until now is already pointless, regardless.
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>>2635536
Character development isn't linear. Mei can take steps back to reassess herself.
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>>2634810
Mei had more character development than Yuzu.
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>>2635635
2013: Mei does nothing on her own. Everyone solves her problems for her.
2018: Mei does nothing on her own. Everyone solves her problems for her.
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>>2635621
she will cease to exist if she will take any more steps back
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>>2635635
they're both bland, like saburouta
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>>2635659
Blow me.
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I wonder if Matsuri sees that Yuzu's better, or if Harumin ends up telling her.

Also, I'm pretty sure none of the cast realizes that Udagawa is Mei's fiance yet.
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No matter what happens, I have a feeling that I'm not gonna like it. Saburouta continues to crush my soul.
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>>2635859
A few things are possible.

1) Mei drops her arranged marriage easily.
2) Mei tries to stand by her choice, but Shou and Yuzu continue to convince her she's making a mistake, until she finally comes to her senses and calls the engagement off.
3) We get a detour to learn more about Harumin's family situation and learn more about the origins of the academy from grandma Taniguchi.
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>>2635864
4) Timeskip with Mei actually getting married.
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>>2635859
Seems like she is taking the wrong route....I am suffering every chapter
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>>2635973
The only way this happens is if it's to Yuzu. The entire point is Mei not making the same mistakes as Shou with going along with his unhappy life as long as he did.
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>>2636050
Except Shou did eventually remarry just to make Mei happy. Not much different than Mei marrying just to make gramps happy.
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>>2636080
Citrus is one of the most popular series in a yuri magazine. Anyone who expects Mei to marry Udagawa is going to be very disappointed.
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>>2635973
Why do people keep ignoring Saburouta's author notes that have repeatedly promised a happy ending with Yuzu and Mei together?
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>>2636098
No one expected Mei to break up with Yuzu to get engaged to Udagawa and yet here we are.
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>>2636107
It was exactly expected, since this is cliche temporary drama for the finale and as >>2636100 pointed out, Saburouta already confirmed yuri ending.
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>>2636100
>>2636110
Because we live in a world of lies and deceit, neesamas, and we know better than to trust in people's word.
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>>2636173
Lying to readers for years in her author notes would be career suicide. Not to mention that Yuri Hime magazine doesn't allow het endings.
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>>2636180
>Lying would be career suicide
You can't say that with Trump in office.

To your second point, you don't need a het ending to be inadequate. Pic related.
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>>2636192
The marriage arc is just forced drama because Sabu is dumb enough not to know how to write a satisfying last arc for her manga. It will end happily for plenty of reasons that have been posted in every single citrus thread for months.
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>>2636192
Pic related was a love triangle series that took itself seriously. It was always going to be disappointing.
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>>2636213
Not only that, but it was a complete love triangle. It wasn't B and C love A with A having feelings for both, but it was a triangle in which A loves B, B loves C and C loves A. To top it all the 3 of them were best friends. That was never going to end well.
It was sad that the Yaoi aspect of it was more satisfying, in a bloody Yuri manga.
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>>2634746
I think Saburouta doesn't know how to deliver her plot well. She could still go with the cliche of Mei having to get married etc, but she should focus these chapters around developing the actual characters. Not adding the new/side characters to force them solve the conflict with "your fate person is waiting for you!You should fight for her!".
It would be way nicer if we got a chapter with Mei only, showing her inner struggles about the marriage. Like, what she's doing right now in that house, thinking of Yuzu, having meetings with her grandpa etc.
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Harumin and Matsuri are the only reason I haven't dropped this shit.
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>>2636278
she is showed to be suffering. she is always like that, she just doesn't express it directly
the marriage is just another context for showing that they are really interested in each other
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>>2636281
best couple
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>>2636293
ironically all it has done is make Mei look like a heartless bitch who would dump her girlfriend to earn some brownie points to make getting a job at her family business slightly easier.
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>>2635458
She's Sabs' pet character.
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>>2635382
>Oh great, Mei's problems being solved for her yet again.
Yuzu is literally a human being that exists for the sole purpose of making Mei happy. It's pretty fucking sad that the few times Yuzu fails in this (due to her own nervousness/inadequacies), Mei/the story crucifies her.
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>>2636281
It's a shame they don't get more focus, but well, despite a couple of volumes, Citrus IS a melodrama.
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>>2636334
>ironically all it has done is make Mei look like a heartless bitch
To be fair, I only see Westerners making these kinds of complaints. In fact, not even all Westerners, but Americans, since I don't see Latin Americans, or Europeans complaining as much.
On the other hand, the Japanese readers seem to feel sad for Mei.
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>>2636426
How can you tell who's complaining?
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>>2636426
When the actual story has her own father rejecting the "responsibility" you have to be brain dead to feel sorry for Mei.
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New leaks from the conversations between Ume and Yuzu. Yuzu talks about marriage with Mei and ask for support ... support comes from Shou and Ume. So parents coming out is solved.

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5749675028
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Coming out chapter it seems ... Harumi's smile in one of the little images leaked seems to point that she knew all along but is happy Yuzu told her clearly.
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More pages of the new chapter have been posted. As mentioned before, Yuzu looks really happy and motivated. Talks with her mom, Shou, Sara, Matsuri and Harumin. Everyone seems supportive. The chapter ends with a conversation between Yuzu and Harumin. Harumin says she loves Yuzu (word used is "suki" that can be ambiguous and not necessarily romantic) but it doesn't look like a confession, Yuzu blushes but then they keep talking and both smile, Harumin supports Yuzu too.
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It ends with Harumi and Yuzu talking and reaching understanding. Well, 5 chapters for this volume maybe, or chapter 40 will end with Mei and Yuzu meeting. Yuzu is determined to marry Mei after having her back and made it clear and loud to everyone.
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>>2636592
Yeah, Harumi loves her like a friend. The smiles show that Harumi is in best friend and support mode. So no love rival, last hurdle is taking back Mei with Mei accepting to honor her real desires.

Shou seems here but didn't try to stop the wedding, so he's like in chapter 7, he wants Mei to do her choice herself, to have her own epiphany like he did. I am a little disappointed by that, the guy just go along with whatever his daughters want, but if Mei won't change her mind, he wouldn't be the one to convince her.
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>>2636593
Everything seems to have been resolved easily, even the situation with the parents. Maybe Yuzu will plan a surprise wedding with everyone but Mei knowing, Mei will appear on her wedding day thinking she would marry the manager and then Yuzu is there, typical happy end that ends on marriage.
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>>2636604
I am more on the idea Yuzu takes Mei back (talking no jutsu and all this shit, tears, i am sorry, i love you), and we go to the graduation day and the marriage ... and maybe the honeymoon.
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>>2636597
Another thing is that when Yuzu was about to tell Ume her feelings for Mei, Ume stopped her and told her there was nothing wrong with loving someone.
Then she also told her relationships would also have hardships, and told her she and her father (the biological one) got together by a time when Ume was around Yuzu's age, and that despite the happy moments there was also hardship.
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>>2636608
I think that we all see that Yuzu know there are hardship and there will be some more after Mei is back. Yuzu is not naive anymore. But, it gives some room for other drama, we don't know how Mei will react when Yuzu comes back in full fighting spirit. And Udagawa is still the secret fiance.
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>>2636426
I'm Asian and I will still tell you Mei is absolute horseshit. Unlike the west Asian culture doesn't really worship selflessness in love.
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I like this chapter ... more than the happy vibes we have, at last, mother-daughter big heart to heart. It was expected and this is a great moment in the manga. Shou is shit as always but a very accepting shit so fine. But Ume is class A mother.
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>>2636636
Mei is lucky, best girlfriend of the world, best mom. The girl should really make her mind.
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>>2636636
I honestly would have liked to be able to have seen Yuzu's father at least once. Something tells me he probably was a very cool dude - considering how every time Ume talks about him you can tell she's talking about the love of her life.
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Well... I am happy with knowing that Harumin doesn't like Yuzu. I was really concerned about her.
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>>2636650
I would like to see a picture of Yuzu’s dad, Ume and little Yuzu together.
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>>2636721
Possible. In a bonus chapter where Mei want to see old picture of her future wife or maybe one panel, in the last chapter when Yuzu/Mei will enter their new house or will prepare for their adult life together. I can see the classical shot on some pictures showing them and their loved one after a little time skip, cliche but indeed, almost mandatory.
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>>2636652
Harumin is such a nice friend. This chapter is a nice closure to Yuzu's fear in chapters 23 and 24.
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>>2636740
And the author shot dead all theories about Harumi being love rival and final boss for Mei.
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>>2636742
Of course Mei will have everything done for her.
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>>2636652
they're so perfect together it's not fair
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>>2636652
This last page sets the tone for next chapter. We haven't seen Mei in months, so maybe her will to go along with the arranged marriage is at an all time low anyway. Would be funny if Yuzu tries to talk Mei out of the marriage and Mei almost instantly gives up on it.
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>>2636612
>And Udagawa is still the secret fiance.
He's literally Sara 2.0 who will obviously step aside. He didn't really want to get married either, he admires Yuzu, and he was/is super supportive of her love. It can't be a coincidence that he knows about Mei and Yuzu's rings.
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>>2636591
>she knew all along but is happy
She made a minor comment in volume 3 that suggested she might know, and volume 4 drama CD had Matsuri practically spell it out for her. She's most likely known since their first year of high school.
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>>2636759
The parents and friends drama was solved so easily, so I can see that too. Yuzu scheming a big plan and when she faces Mei, Mei just gives up without any real confrontation.

The "yuzu is scarred and traumatised for life" and "Mei will have to be forgiven" theory is dead too. Yuzu is bubbly once again, and full of love and support for Mei. So there won't be any chapter with Yuzu having to be reassured by Mei.

We really are in a shonen yuri, Yuzu, like every shonen protag is resilient as fuck and all doubt periods are very short lived. The girl is a rock and full of acceptance, like Naruto forgave Sasuke and supported him all manga long whatever shit he did.
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>>2636764
If Yuzu and Mei talk the start of next chapter, then things could be resolved by the end of the volume, then the story can move into summer vacation again, for a happy one like people were hoping for last year.

But if they don't meet until the end of the volume, expect next volume to be Yuzu having to pursue Mei to get her to change her mind and have her admit to choice to gramps. Of course Udagawa will be supportive when he finds out.
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>>2636592
Wow, its like all the drama was literally pointless. Glad to see Saburota finally give up on writing bad drama.
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>>2636766
Now I'm sure volume 11 will be the last one, maybe even 10 depending on how the last chapter will be. The last chapter of a series can be pretty ass long, especially here given how short chapter 37 was. All the loose ends are resolved, only grandpa is the last obstacle, but given how easily everything has been resolved, I can't see a big drama regarding him.
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>>2636798
If chapter 40 is the last, then it'd be advertised in YH when its raws drop tomorrow.

Even it it does end in another volume or so I'm hoping either for a sequel series or a spinoff with Harumin and Matsuri.
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>>2636742
/u/ is literally the only place where I’ve seen anyone think Harumi would be a rival or any sort of obstacle. I don’t think this was ever a very popular theory.
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>>2636811
Volume 3 introduced the idea that Harumin might have feelings for Yuzu. Not sure what chapter 39 says exactly, but Harumn's "suki" could imply that Matsuri was right, but that Harumin accepts Yuzu only sees her as a friend and will just try to move on without causing any drama.
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>>2636807
The last volume could be longer. So chapter 41 would be the last.
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>>2636823
I forget, did NTR have an extra chapter in the final volume, or was it just a very long chapter?
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>>2636829
Long final chapter and 6 chapters instead of 4 or 5.
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https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5750920065

Full chapter. Mei is seen in one panel. At least, she didn't cut her hair. So it seems we'll see her next chapter now.
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>>2636859
Nene obviously got the wrong idea by watching Harumin and Yuzu together, but did Matsuri as well, or is it because Matsuri just wanted them to resolve things.
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>>2636859
Ganbatte Yuzu!!!!!!!
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>>2636863
Matsuri smiles so she knows that Yuzu is just setting things straight with Harumi. She's happy to see the friends together again and Yuzu ready for action, i don't think they hear what is said.
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>>2636859
Mei looking out her bedroom window at her grandfather's house likely means she's thinking about something. Otherwise, no reason for her to be doing that.
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>>2636867
Our shonen protagonist is back!
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>>2636591
I always felt like Harumin knew from the very early stages. She had seen the Yuri mangas Yuzu was reading, and she never seemed surprised when Yuzu was unknowingly giving away the fact that she liked Mei.

Also, is it implied that Yuzu's mom also knows?
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>>2636879
>Also, is it implied that Yuzu's mom also knows?
I think so, but whether she figured out before the timeskip or during it is unclear. You'd think if she knew beforehand that she wouldn't let them share a bed anymore.
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>>2636875
She's on the phone. She called Sho or was called by him.
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>>2636893
Does that mean that Shou just set up the meeting between Yuzu and Mei?
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>>2636893
>>2636896
If Mei called Shou, doesn't that mean she's having second thoughts about her decision? Mei might be at her breaking point of going back to Yuzu without even Yuzu having even done anything yet.
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>>2636896
I don't know, we see Sho's phone and after that Mei standing in front of the window, her right hand at her ear. So does he mention having called her ? Guess we'll have to wait for the official raws to have a better quality.
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Would be funny if it was Mei calling Shou after Shou just got off the webchat with Yuzu. Then Shou could tell Mei what Yuzu just told him during their phone call.
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>>2636899
>there's people who still believe Mei will do something
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>>2636859
cut her hair? who said that?
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>>2636905
It was a theory cause of the break up and overcoming a heartbreak.
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>>2636905
It's a callback to an earlier chapter, when Yuzu wanted to cut her hair, because of a Japanese tradition to do so when trying to get over someone.
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>>2636879
>Our shonen protagonist is back!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDVK2Id2uAc
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>>2636909
- Mei didn't cut her hair.
- Mei kept the ring.
- I think Mei took her and Yuzu's children bears with her.

She obviously isn't over anything, especially with the possibility that she's probably calling her dad for advice in chapter 39.
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>>2636913
>3
I think she just called him to tell him abut the marriage and stuff,you know like a good daughter of the Aihara house
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>>2636915
She's been engaged for months 8 months, so she's most likely contacted him about it before now. And timing it perfectly with him just getting off the phone with Yuzu is too much of a coincidence.
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Even Mei's grandfather's house will remind Mei of Yuzu because of what happened in volume 1. Mei tried to force herself on Yuzu in her room and that's when Yuzu told Mei she was there for her.
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>>2632574
You catch up on the manga yet?
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Have the raws for chapter 39 made people more or less hyped than before?
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>>2637019
I still depressed...coz things are not fixed yet.
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I hope this arc ends with volume 10, since I don't want this arc to go on for any longer. Yuzu convincing Mei to come back to her is only a formality at this point, so it would be boring for it to be an entire volume.
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>>2636757
I think because they are so perfect together, SU decided that they will just be friends.
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Given the tone chapter 39 set I'm expecting chapter 40 to be very upbeat, as a contrast to how volume 9 ended in despair.
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I would not be surprised if volume 10 is the last one. Mei finally appeared, this chapter resolved everything easily, Yuzu even mentioned marrying Mei to her parents. It's obvious it will have a wedding ending, just like Pulse.
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>>2637050
The only obstacles left (provided they didn't solve themselves during the timeskip off panel) are Mei and her grandfather. Mei's letter already admitted Mei would waver if she saw Yuzu again, plus now Yuzu is armed with Sara's insight. And gramps respects Yuzu for saving his life and I think he suspects Mei isn't really happy with the current engagement.
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>>2637054
Honestly grandpa can just fuck off and die
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>>2636859
We were so close to the best possible ending for this disaster of a series.
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>>2637080
Did Yuzu think Harumin confessed and Harumin followed up by saying something about as a friend? Yuzu's reaction is too extreme if she didn't think it was a confession at first.
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>>2637080
Saburouta self-insert smug face about debunking HaruYuzu for good.
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>>2637083
Well, she said "as a best friend" after but I doubt Yuzu mistook her for a confession
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>>2637093
There's no reason for Yuzu to be that flustered if she didn't think it was a confession at first. And there was no need for Harumin to add "as a best friend" later if Yuzu had understood her intent. Suki can be said standalone, but Harumin wanted to clarify it after the fact.
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>>2636875
The princess is waiting to be saved.
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>>2637112
Someone draw Yuzu as Mario and Mei as Princess Peach, please.
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feels like the end for me too.....we have been waiting for them to come out or be found out by the parents and Yuzu just spits it all out and they are ok with it.....and then she told Harumin too,her best friend who has been in the dark since forever.
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>>2637148
It feels like the end or close to it, since they're resolving any lingering issues for Yuzu and Mei along with showing the entire cast, some of which haven't really been seen since volumes 1-4.
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>>2637148
It's really about tying any loose plot threads that readers might think could sabotage Yuzu's efforts hereon. There's still time for a few post crisis chapters.
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>>2637173
That's not usually how drama series play out. Drama resolved, then maybe 2 chapters, the end. They want it to end when the effect of the drama is still in effect.
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Saburouta really likes making a caricature out of Haruyuzu fans, doesn't she? Not only did Nene look sillier than usual, you get that bait of a "confession" from Harumi.
That being said, I don't see her developing HaruMatsu any further either, considering everything from here on will be fully about Yuzu and Mei.
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>>2637200
>I don't see her developing HaruMatsu any further either
Hopefully a spinoff, but we might get a bit of them if we get another volume bonus chapter. Just this chapter had Matsuri bring up Harumin's lack of dating.

>Saburouta really likes making a caricature out of Haruyuzu fans
She only started doing this when the Haruyuzu shippers started to vocally ship them while also saying how they didn't like Mei. To an author, that had to be annoying.
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>>2637208
To be fair to them, Harumi is extremely likeable, even if she's completely useless when she's needed.
Mei, on the other hand, is the main source of drama in the story, and far more than once has she hurt Yuzu who's main aim is to make her happy.
Yuzu's dynamics with Harumi are fun to watch and they've got a good, drama-free relationship, so it's not odd some people would ship them together. Furthermore, you don't need to ship those two to dislike Mei. In fact, if Saburouta didn't want Mei to become dislike, she shouldn't have dropped nearly the entire drama of the story on her shoulders, especially when things like volume 4 made her hard to like at times.
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>>2637208
>the love interest is so shit that people start shipping mc with the best friend instead
can you blame them? also if this is true, it makes Saburouta look pretty inmature. You're supposed to handle criticism if you present a public work.
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>>2637227
It's pretty obvious that Nene's entire existence and antics are meant as a teasing jab to Haruyuzu shippers. Plus the fake out confession from Harumin this chapter, including smug smirk Harumin did while doing it.

I wonder if volume 3 bonus chapter was written when Saburouta was playing with the idea of having Harumin as a rival eventually, but decided against it, especially considering how vocal the Haruyuzu became later on.
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Whatever Saburouta's next series is I hope she learns to plan out plot and character developments better for improved consistency.

I also hope she learns not to introduce so many characters, unless they can all have at least so much development. Citrus has so many side characters, but even Harumin and Himeko who were there from the start feel underdeveloped. And then you have Shiraho who was introduced way late into the series. And then there's the twins that only showed up during plot convenient moments to help make Yuzu/Mei happen and help get them back together.
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>>2637235
I feel like Citrus was planned to be a lot shorter series, but kinda devolved into the villain-of-the-week format instead of trying to take it out of the shoujo-hole.
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>>2637235
This problem isn't inherent to Saburouta and it's an issue many mangaka have. At some point, side characters stop being relevant and are just there, and new one are added to drag the plot.

It's not good story-telling, but the average manga doesn't boast being proper literature or anything. They're entertainment for the masses written by amateurs.
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>>2637250
It was villain of the week from about the beginning. Since you had: Himeko, Matsuri, and Sara as rivals in quick succession. Then volume 5 had Mitsuko stir up trouble. Then volume 7 made you think Shiraho would be trouble. Then once this is was all settled they moved into huge arranged engagement drama.
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>>2637260
I don't think this is a very good excuse in Citrus' case. It could have had way better execution if Saburouta had done better planning. And it's only 38 chapters long currently. It's not even a very long series, yet feels bloated with wasteful arcs and characters.
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>>2637271
The issue is we don't know what Saburouta was planning. As someone already pointed out, she probably didn't expect it to last further than 2-3 volumes, but somehow the manga became really popular and she just kept on dragging it.
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>>2637260
The problem is not the side characters being relevant or not, but rather the way they are developed. Most of them have been there to cause drama and that's it, once their arc is over. Exception are Harumin, who is not a love rival, and Matsuri, who started as another villain but became a recurring character who supports Yuzu. I guess the twins count too, but they are still a deus machina.
Due to this, the plot is badly written, or rather, there's no real plot here. It's supposed to be about Yuzu and Mei, but it feels more like Yuzu being a prince who does everything and Mei being the damsel in distress.
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>>2637273
>Yuzu being a prince who does everything and Mei being the damsel in distress.

Well duh, is a shoujo with lesbians.
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>>2637273
>Exception are Harumin, who is not a love rival, and Matsuri, who started as another villain but became a recurring character who supports Yuzu. I guess the twins count too, but they are still a deus machina.
So, Himeko hasn't developed? She's changed a lot from her first introduction.
Shiraho and Nene are the only side characters I would call pointless.
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>>2637272
Yes, but she could have still done more interesting things with it. Volume 3 set up Harumin's issues with romance, but that was forgotten apparently. Saburouta could'vet taken the series in may different directions once Yuzu and Mei got together. She didn't and that was her choice. She had the time to come up with a new course. I mean she added Nene just to tease a section of her fanbase after all.
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>>2637273
Forgot to mention the lack of character development. Mei's only character development so far has been falling for Yuzu, but despite loving her, that love hasn't changed her personality or attitude, she's still the same girl she was when Citrus started.
I think Yuzu's character development is even worse, she hasn't changed at all, she's still a doormat, a sweetheart sure, and that's great, but since the beginning she's been presented as the girl who is determined and follows her own path, and that's it. If anything, her love for Mei has probably made her more insecure.
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>>2637275
Himeko has barely been given any panel time since volume 2. She was still super clingy with Mei even after that, like in volume 4 and at the festival. She even wanted Yuzu to dump Mei in volume 9.
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>>2637275
Yeah, I forgot to talk about that. It's a shame that even the side characters have had more character development than the main characters. Examples are Matsuri and Himeko.
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>>2637208
>write two characters perfect for each other
>but one of them is preoccupied with a cold bitch
who could have seen that coming
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>>2637285
Any good place to read Latin American opinions on Citrus? Going by Twitter comments, I thought they liked this manga.
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>>2637298
Latina here. Huh, facebook I guess? At least I always see comments there, compared to other yuri manga. Or TMO
>Going by Twitter comments, I thought they liked this manga.
It's exactly the same as here. Citrus is basically the Naruto of yuri in the West. In Latin America, it is pretty popular, the most popular yuri manga (the rest are manwha or yagakimi) but like I said, they are the same as /u/, some people hate it, other still read it but are sick of Mei and the plot, and the rest are harcore fans. I'm sure there are plenty of Latinas on /u/ anyways
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>>2637307
hardcore* shit
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>>2631860
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXsuCEVQQ1w
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>>2637333
Even the parody video for the anime thinks Himeko, Matsuri, and Sara were repetitive threats.
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Well, some negativity out there. Yes, we know that the author has difficulties to construct a good plot and give a proper progression to her characters, or at least consistent progression. And it won't be better before the end, it will stay like that.

But, let's stress the fact that she delivers greatly when she has these emotional speeches in these intimate moments. Like in volume 6, when the author approaches these societal matters about rejection and homophobia, her writing shines.

Here, let's enjoy the mother-daughter scene when Yuzu tries to come out, tremble, stutter and Ume just soothe her and has this killing sentence that many of gay people coming out in front of their parents would like so much to hear "I will never regret having you".

During these scenes, Citrus truly shines. And all the little gestures in these scenes are so subtle and spot on, Yuzu's hand shivering and Ume covering it with her own, or this eyes full of love and understanding to help her daughter to voice out her feelings. I don't know for others here, but this moment really resonated in me and is so realistic and at the same time moving. Few yuri mangas or animes touched this area, the coming out to the family. I am happy that the author did it so smoothly without any crazy drama.
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>>2637444
the scene is nothing but a very simplistic way of approaching this matter. it seems rushed, in fact everything seems rushed in this manga lately.
in reality everything is overwhelming because everything is experienced directly by the individual.
but we're talking about a plot, about an activity based on imagination and coming with something truly unexpected. saburouta fails at doing that. she is predictable and boring.
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>>2637532
In the end, all depends on the effect the story has on you. I read many mangas and stories with a great plot, unpredictable, something clearly masterfully carved. But some of them didn't let an imprint in my mind. They were objectively great but meh after reading them.

Sure, Citrus hasn't a carved plot, but as you said, I find the way everything is lived through the individual lens just give some emotional impact. But, I talk about my own reception. I am invested. And I find this chapter very necessary even though it is not original. Rushed, well, we could have had an entire chapter about Yuzu talking with Ume, but seriously, the scene is enough and there is some ellipse about a part of the conversation.

If people here want a surprise with Saburouta, they will be disappointed, she never really made a mystery about the pleasure she had to use shoujo and soap opera cliche and sometimes, not always, distort them. And she cannot expand a plot without sometimes just quickly solve it.

I believe that she could shine in a spin-off or a sequel with shorter and dynamic chapters, and also with more a slice of life touch, when she uses pure drama, she fails to live up to the expectations. When she's on the comedic side, and the realistic slice of life atmosphere, she's better.
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>>2637208
I'll always ship HaruYuzu. They're the only likable combination out of all of the characters. I know it ain't happening, but it's not like Saburuta is good at developing characters and plots anyway.
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Harumin's a wasted character.

Convince me otherwise.
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>>2637574
Not if there is a spin off ... there were hints thrown about Harumi here and there ... but it's Yuzu's story.
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So is Sabouruta married to a man?
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>>2637591
No, she isn't married.
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>>2637574
>>2637582
Matsuri brought up Harumin not dating anyone in chapter 39, so at least Saburouta hasn't dropped that plot thread or forgotten about it.

>>2637532
Many series tend to feel a bit rushed near the end, since at that point the author is just trying to move to the resolution. At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if volume 10 is just a long final volume like NTR got, given how fast everything is being resolved now.
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>>2637650
Two or three chapters, 40 to prepare the confrontation, resolution 41 and maybe intimate moments, and 42 closure for a bright future.
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>>2637654
Then volume 10 bonus chapter, if it has one or maybe final drama CD, could be epilogue stories.
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>>2637054
>grandfather

Maybe we are lucky and he has a heartattack. or a truck gets him.
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>We finally got the official raws in good quality :) The team is starting to work on Citrus chapter 39 now!
>Please be patient

Didn't this chapter has alot of dialogue? It might take a bit longer than usual.
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>>2637731
Something tell me they probably already a first translation with the leak, they'll probably use the HQ version to spot mistake in Japanese and clean and edit the file.
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>>2637650
I'd rather see Harumin with a guy than with Matsuri.
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You know, I already translated the chapter. If you want I will upload it here until the CT's version is ready. Any suggestions about the translation is welcomed, since my English is not that good.
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>>2637900
Please do, if CT is going to take a while
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>>2637900
I would say don't worry, I doubt Chaosteam will take that long. Anyway Spanish translation is out for spics and anyone who understand that language
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>>2637900
You can upload it if you want. I'm very curious how some of the conversations went.
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I want to say that the quality is not as good as CT since I just translate it to be able to read myself, but I want to share it, so here you have.
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>>2637916
Are you going to upload the whole chapter here? Can't you put it in Imgur or zip?
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>>2637921
I don't know how to put it in there, so yes.
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>>2637925
I think you just need to create an account
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I don't have to change the format of the images?
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>>2637936
No?
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Sorry, I tried to put it in imgur, but I couldn't.
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CT member here the chapter we will be uploaded in the next hour up on dynasty as well
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https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/citrus_ch39
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>>2637978
Thanks!
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>>2637978
Ahhh Harumin, you're too good for this world ;_;
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Definitely feels like a finale. Guess we will get the usual shit when the final is the girls finally getting together and we will never get a few chapters of pure, cute dating and relationship.
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>>2637985
Unless YH's preview says "climax", next chapter won't be the last one. It can be like NTR and have 5/6 chapters rather than the usual 4, or volume 11 will be the last one. No chance of 12 volumes given the tone of chapter 39.
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Yuzu is perfect.
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>>2637985
Dunno, I can see the story covering anything that happens between now and up to Yuzu and Mei finally getting married.
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I'm worried onee-samas. Things have finally started to go well, and they seem to be going too well. I think I can smell a twist in the making.

Is this when Truck-kun makes his debut in Citrus?
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>>2637990
That's just wishful thinking, people were saying that there was a lot to resolve, like coming out to the parents or seeing the rest of their second year. Nobody expected a timeskip and it can happen again. Yuzu has mentioned marrying Mei twice, I'm sure it will happen soon.
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>>2637991
>I think I can smell a twist in the making.
Nah, it means the series is ending soon. Sabu always does huge drama that gets resolved fairly easily in the last chapter of a volume.
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I've read worse drama than this (bokura ga ita) where the couple broke up for many chapters and then got back together for many chapters more. the anime sucked as well (bokura ga ita). I font know if this relevant,I am just saying maybe this is not the end.(maybe)
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Welp this chapter confirmed once again that Yuzu is too good for Mei.
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>>2636859
Heh, Saburouta was havin' a cheeky giggle at her reader's expense towards the end.
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>>2638003
She is, but at the same time, no one is good enough for Yuzu - except maybe a Sara and Nina combo,
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>>2637978
Is no one going to comment on Matsuri saying she's plotting revenge on Mei and is about to start gathering information?!
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>>2638018
I’m looking forward to it.
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>>2638023
This is against what people expected. Matsuri waited until Yuzu wanted to go back to Mei to act. Matsuri's anger is more important to her than Yuzu's wishes.

Plus, Yuzu enlisted Harumin's help. So Harumin will obviously have to deal with Matsuri while Yuzu has to convince Mei to come back to her, since Shou revealed Mei is being stubborn.
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Matsuri was secret final boss all along! That's what all of her game references this entire time were meant to hint at!
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>>2638028
I don't think she´s planning on doing something bad. Yuzu is far more important to Matsuri than giving in to whatever anger she may hold toward Mei.
If anything, maybe she's planning on putting Mei in a similar circumstance like the one Yuzu went through in volume 3, when Mei agreed to the compensated dating - which Mei agreed to not because she was blackmailed, but solely to see Yuzu's reaction - in order to teach her a lesson.
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>>2638035
Then why did Matsuri say she was going to gather info? I think people are misinterpreting Matsuri's character to say she won't go after Mei.

What can Matsuri say to Mei just to trick her? That Harumin confessed? Mei can easily verify lies via Himeko.
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>>2638028
>>2638038
>Matsuri's anger is more important to her than Yuzu's wishes.
sounds like you're overreacting to be honest. "gathering info" might just be trying to find out who Mei's fiance is or what the circumstances of the marriage are.
there's no way they're going to paint Matsuri as the villain again just to complicate the resolution of this whole wedding ordeal. if anything i would bet that she ends up helping yuzu out to get Mei back.
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>>2638038
>Then why did Matsuri say she was going to gather info?
Because that's what she always does? Whilst Matsuri is as prone as Yuzu to get into trouble, unlike Yuzu who just jumps into the fray without thinking, Matsuri always prefers to assess the situation and plan ahead.

Notice how, right now, Yuzu seems to plan to just go to Mei asap thinking that she came out of the closet, then there's nothing that can stop her, while heavily underestimating Mei's stubbornness. Matsuri is probably going to gather information to understand the whole situation better and she how she can: 1) Create an opportunity for Yuzu and 2) Get one on Mei.

Matsuri is a girl with a really good heart, so I'm sure she won't do anything bad. In fact. something tells me that whatever she does will finally earn her Harumin's heart - or, at least, make her notice her in a different light.
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>>2638044
She'll probably be the one to not only help Yuzu get closer to Mei, but put Mei in the spot to finally do something to get Yuzu and have a bit of "character development."
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They handled the drama of parents knowing the secret very well, it was solved so quickly! So the end must be closer, I just want to see them together soon...
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Mei is forcing herself. I’m not even surprised, the letter is like a scream for help.
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So does the YH preview mention climax or not?
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>>2638075
Nope. Nothing except the fact there is a chapter scheduled next month.
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>>2638106
So 5 chapters or one more volume then. Given what Matsuri said, maybe next chapter could have a conversation between her and Mei
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I'd like to point out the drama CD for volume 9 had Harumin warn Matsuri not to manipulate people or she'd get hurt. She gave Matsuri the same warning in the volume 4 drama CD. Whatever Matsuri's planning could backfire even if her heart is in the right place.

Harumin and Matsuri being added to the current drama could result in development for them both.
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>>2638135
Hum, spanish translation of this part from the Japanese is totally different, «i wonder how i can help her to be reunited with Mei, i have to gather some info»
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>>2638158
I just read both the English and Spanish translations and compared them to the raw in Baidu. The Spanish translation is off. You're better off reading the English one.
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This revenge and gathering info could simply be Matsuri learning Udagawa is Mei’s fiance and she would just shot Mei’s plan and expose her lies since Udagawa never knew the reasons why Mei asked him to not say a word to Yuzu.

Matsuri mentions Yuzu is rising her winning flag using a video game metaphor, as if Yuzu is i. High spirit but doesn’t have a precise plan to bring Mei back. On the other hand, Matsuri is the planner mastermind, so she could be used like Saburouta always stated, as a device to advance things. Cause Yuzu, as determined as she is, hasn’t won the game yet.
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I lol'd at the latest chapter. I wonder if Yuzu's mom was like "oh shit maybe I shouldn't have forced them in the same bed"
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>>2638199
She's more like, "the bed should have been bigger."
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>>2638197
Yes, but Udagawa backing out of the wedding only slows things down. She can just find another fiance. Of course him closing down the cafe implies the plans have progressed quite far.
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>>2638218
>Udagawa backing out of the wedding
I don't think things are that easy. For one, these are things that have been talked out by their families. So, him backing out for no good reason could be seen as a disservice from his family toward the Aihara family.
With the teacher it was easier because he wasn't from a renowned family, and he was charged with abusing Mei. However, the Manager has done nothing wrong and calling out the engagement can create some bad blood, and unnecessary problems for him, and maybe even his family.
If the engagement is cancelled it has to be done by Mei, because then the effect of doing that befalls on her and the Aihara family.
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>>2638226
If Matsuri has to blackmail Mei the only things she can possibly use against her are maybe some sort of proof Mei went on a compensated date, or proof Mei is a lesbian, since maybe Matsuri has a backup pic of Mei forcing a kiss on her in volume 3.
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>>2638230
I honestly don't think Matsuri, as she is now, would blackmail Mei. I can see her baiting Mei into believing she's being blackmailed, but not actually, and then pushing her into chasing after Yuzu somehow.
However, as she is now, I don't see Matsuri doing anything legitimately bad.
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>>2638231
>I can see her baiting Mei into believing she's being blackmailed
How would Matsuri pull this off? It's basically blackmail, since Mei would think it's blackmail. Any incriminating photos would obviously be from Matsuri, since she's a known camera fiend.
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>>2638233
>How would Matsuri pull this off?
Wordplay? Being cryptic? It's not "effectively" blackmail if it's all a misunderstanding (although intentionally caused by Matsuri) on Mei's part, because Matsuri said something vague.
Anyhow, my point is Matsuri won't do anything that has any mean spirit to it, even if she does play dirty, and ultimately it will all be with good intentions in mind.
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>>2638236
Just about the only thing Matsuri could do is lie and say she still has the pic of Mei kissing her, since Mei doesn't know Masturi deleted it. Even if it's not real blackmail, it's still really scummy, since Mei thinks she's really being blackmailed. And it means that Mei's actions are being manipulated, so she's not choosing Yuzu of her own will.
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>>2638239
I don't think she'll resort to claiming she still has that pic, since she could have done that already. There's also no need to do any research to use that.
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>>2638244
For research, what could she come up with other than Udagawa being Mei's fiance? And as another anon pointed out, Udagawa's hands are tied, since it'd shame his family and bring tension among them and the Aihara's.
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Even if Matsuri's intent isn't malicious whatever she's planning will obviously mess with Mei and her plans somehow, since she did indeed use the word "revenge".
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>>2638245
Yeah, and I was the one who pointed that out. And despite that, I don't think Matsuri will do something bad. Whatever she finds out, and how she uses her findings, we'll have to see.

Personally, my idea is that she'll use whatever she finds to make Mei meet with Yuzu. Consider that the reason Mei went back to her grandfather's house was because, as per her own worse, seeing Yuzu will destroy her resolve. So, it's fair to assume she'll do what she can to avoid meeting Yuzu. So, Matsuri can do something to create a chance for them to meet.

>>2638248
The term she used was indeed リベンジ, which can refer to harm back someone who harmed you or your loved ones, but it can also refer to making a score even (as in, you beat me at X (e.g. a game) yesterday, but this time I'll win), you know, just like the term works in English.
If you remember, Matsuri considered that Mei bested her back in volume 3, by using Matsuri's plans for her own ends. So, she may be referring to that.
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>>2638259
The game metaphor is spot on. She uses another one with Yuzu rising her winning flag.
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>>2638259
>by using Matsuri's plans for her own ends. So, she may be referring to that.
I'd really love to see Matsuri turn Mei's plans back on her somehow. But so far Mei's plans just involve avoiding Yuzu at all costs and keeping her grandfather and Udagawa in the dark about Yuzu having been her lover.
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With the current developments it seems that Harumin and Matsuri will get more panel time, since Yuzu asked Harumin for her help and Matsuri decided to do her own thing despite no one asking her to.

I kind of doubt volume 10 will be the last now. This chapter basically confirmed that Mei will be stubborn and as Matsuri said, Yuzu was considering the game won before it's over.
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It's kind of hard for me to root for Yuzu/Mei now. Not only did Mei break up with Yuzu in the worst way possible, but now it's basically confirmed that she's actively trying to not get back together with her.
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Why do you people expect Mei to come back on her own after she made the decision to leave and stand by it for many months, now. How cheap and stupid would that be?
>Hey! I left you for few months but i changed my mind so now here I am hurr!
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>>2638306
And even though I am a fan of Yuzu, I hate to say it, but Yuzu is stupid for continuously pursuing someone who clearly doesn't give a shit about her.
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>>2638306
How is Matsuri manipulating Mei's choice somehow or Yuzu randomly talking her out of her choice any better? Even Mei's dad failed at convincing Mei she was only forcing herself to go along with it.
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>>2638293
Because Mei is stupid as fuck. At this point, she just looks like a idiot, since everyone is rooting for their love. But Mei is just going along with her grandfather’s wishes. Even Shou noticed that she’s forcing herself.

Udagawa isn’t the issue, since nobody gives a damn about him. He likes Yuzu, so he won’t be a problem.
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I can see it now, Mei comes back because Matsuri's candid photos trick Mei into thinking that Yuzu has moved onto Harumin.
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>>2638311
>At this point, she just looks like a idiot, since everyone is rooting for their love.

Yuzu: Great news Mei, our parents gave us their blessing when I told them I was going to marry you.

Mei:....
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>>2637296
>>2637569
This narrowmindedness is always what gets me, as if there's nothing beautiful about a true friendship.
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>>2638311
>Even Shou noticed that she’s forcing herself.
Even her grandpa noticed, and told her not to, and she did it anyway
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>>2638306
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>>2638310
Perhaps Mei's circumstances resonate better with the Japanese? I mean, the whole perception about lacking freedom and having to do what several groups (your family, peers, society) expect from you, while shunning your individuality may be something that comes off as unrelatable to anyone who was raised in a more individualistic society, but for them it may be easier to relate.

Then there's also the aspect of filial piety, in which she's giving up on her own desires for the sake of the one person who raised her.

I think there's also an unspoken aspect, which clearly seems to be trauma (and through this, Saburouta's critique to the Japanese strict and sometimes obtuse mentality on societal rules). I mean, when you see Mei being unable of carrying on with a date with Yuzu, without the guidance of a notebook that Yuzu clearly made for her own entertainment you can tell something is wrong with her. In Mei's case, you can tell she has some kind of mental prison in which she seems to be certain that she's bound to all the rules she's been instilled, and that there's no escape for her. Even if no one is forcing her to do anything, she's certain that she isn't free to do as she pleases as she told Sara. This is also why she put up with the teacher she was betrothed to. The guy was clearly abusing her, but she endured it because,as far as she was concerned, she had no say in the matter and thus had to accept it.

The whole thing also probably gives her a sense of purpose, and it satisfy her desire to "feel needed". When Shou left, in addition to leaving her in a state of dissonance, because she went against the rules she had been strictly raised to adhere to, she also probably felt discarded. So, her acting as the head of the Aihara family and carrying out everything that was asked of her to perfection was, perhaps, a way in which she felt she was needed and thus, that there was value to her.
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>>2638310
Because it gives more sense that a development where one of main characters randomly makes a totally out of character choice that invalidates the last volume and the volume before that.
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>>2638324
Except none of what you mentioned explains Mei's chronic desire to say what she's doing is her decision.
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>>2638327
Trauma works like that, you know. Like abused wives claiming they want to go back to their abusive husbands. Or people in general putting themselves through circumstances they're clearly not happy with.
Those people are clearly not happy with what they do, and deep down probably don't want to do it, but trauma makes them believe they have to.
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Matsuri tries to help Yuzu get Mei back but accidentally causes the Aihara family to lose their influence over the school due to her impulsive actions tarnishing the family's reputation.
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>>2638318
of course there is, and thats why i didnt really think too hard about haruyuzu until this arc. but when best girl's gf just keeps being stone hearted again and again it's only natural to want her to look elsewhere
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>>2638332
This wouldn't be a bad thing, really.
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>>2638336
I mean, Saburouta's teased twice in the drama CDs that Matsuri's antics will backfire at some point, so this seems like the most likely outcome. Matsuri really doesn't understand how traditional families like Mei's works. This is why Yuzu went to Harumin for help, because Harumin knows these kinds of things even if she tries to stay detached from them.
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>>2638338
There is literally no way for Yuzu to marry Mei without making the Aihara look bad to the eyes of all those traditional families. Also, considering the effect that school had in Shou and especially on Mei, it may be for the best for some other family to take it over. They can always keep partial ownership over it, and make money from it, without being public representatives.
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>>2638344
Harumi is for Matsuri.
But Yuzu needs to find a cute, great and worth girl for herself
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>>2638345
She already did, though. Yuzu is a retard so Mei works perfectly for her.
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>>2638349
Yuzu is an angel. Mei is a stupid bitch that deserves a to go to het hell.
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You know, while Matsuri was looking at Harumin before dragging Nene away, Matsuri looked kind of sad. Maybe she thinks Harumin's smiling on the outside, but is sad on the inside. Harumin's look right after Yuzu told her she loved Mei wasn't exactly a positive one even though she recovered quickly to be supportive. It's pretty obvious by this point that Matsuri has a crush on Harumin, so seeing Harumin being silently heartbroken by Matsuri's former crush must be some very complex feeling.
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>>2638351
Can't really give much of a shit of their relationship since it's so underdeveloped.
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>>2638352
It's pretty developed if you read the volume bonus chapters, Harumin's sleepover story, and listen to the drama CDs. They don't really start interacting in the main chapters until volume 7.
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>>2638248
>mess with Mei and her plans somehow

Which is a good thing.
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>>2638344
Low key me too
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>>2638350
Yuzu is the best girl.
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>entire arc about mei learning to choose for herself
>chooses to get married
bitch
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>>2638319
Where? He seems pretty serious about this
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You are all blaming a bad written character. Is saburouta's fault she doesn't know how to write an acceptable story. It is just about yuzu running after mei, because she knows that she will regret if she gives up at what she desires. That's the message, and for the message to be successfully transmitted, mei must act like an useless, robotic "bitch". The execution is just very bad. Saburouta said she doesnt know how to write mei, she must now also acknowledge that she doesn't know how to write a story. Maybe if she does that there will be more clarity about the situation.
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>>2638480
I don't think he told her not to, just that he kept trying to reassure her that things wouldn't be so bad about it. Like "Oh, this is just a meeting" and "I hear he's a calm man."
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>>2638484
i dont mind in an overall sense, i enjoy it and i'll keep enjoying it, but im not gonna pretend that as of right now; haruyuzu ending looks like the good end that will never happen
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>>2638490
>HaruYuzu
>Good End
Please, they're great friends and all, but every time there's been some difficulty she's bailed out. Even Mei has tried to do something for her whenever Yuzu's source of distress wasn't herself.
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Raws please :(
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>>2638501
See

>>2636859
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>>2638500
While true, it's heavily implied that Harumin has a reason why she acts the way she does. And with her and Matsuri also becoming a part of this arc, we might finally find out why Harumin acts that way and could possibly overcome it.
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>>2638505
So? We know Mei is troubled as fuck too, and very likely more so than Harumi (assuming she actually has any issues at all) but that didn't stop her from helping Yuzu whenever she could.
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>>2638514
>but that didn't stop her from helping Yuzu whenever she could.
After some character development Mei was able to help Yuzu some, which included lying to her about her intent to stay with Yuzu forever, but she also kept huge secrets from Yuzu, and still chose to abandon her without saying a word.

>(assuming she actually has any issues at all)
Come on, something is obviously not right with the way Harumin acts. Mitsuko was only a small fraction of Harumin's issues otherwise Harumin would've became more open to involvement after volume 5. And Saburouta teasing Harumin's family situation probably means there's something more to it.
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I'm expecting the current arc to last through volume 11 or 12. There's no reason for Saburouta to throw Harumin and Matsuri into the situation unless they're intended to complicate matters and get development themselves.Rather than a spinoff like some were expecting, it seems like Saburouta will give them their resolution in Citrus.
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>>2638515
>After some character development Mei was able to help Yuzu some
Yes, enough development for her to develop some sort of relationship with Yuzu. Harumi never had any issues communicstinh, so she wasn't in need of that development.

>which included lying to her about her intent to stay with Yuzu forever, but she also kept huge secrets from Yuzu, and still chose to abandon her without saying a word.
Whilst this is true, it remains for a fact that Mei became concerned about Yuzu's issues and attempted to do anything about it, even when Yuzu wouldn't tell her. Like, during the scene you're referencing she was even shown looking up things in books to see how she could help.

>Come on, something is obviously not right with the way Harumin acts.
Maybe, but considering how things are I don't know if they'll be addressed are all, or even if I want them to be addressed at all, since I'm not sure if Saburouta can handle that many plot threads.
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>>2638518
>volume 12
This seems overly optimistic
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>>2638521
It's very unlikely to end in volume 10 now and the series has paired volume covers. Not to mention the series phases have all been 4 volumes each so far. Yuzu and Mei took 4 volumes to start dating. Then they spent 4 volumes dating. Volume 9-12 being the current arc wouldn't surprise me, especially now that Harumin and Matsuri will get focus in it too.
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>>2638519
>Maybe, but considering how things are I don't know if they'll be addressed are all, or even if I want them to be addressed at all, since I'm not sure if Saburouta can handle that many plot threads.

The problem is this is where it seems to be going. Have Yuzu try to get Mei back with Harumin's help, while Matsuri butts in on her own, and might need Harumin's help after getting in over her head. Obviously Yuzu/Mei will get the most focus, but a Harumin/Matsuri subplot seems almost inevitable at this point.
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>Matsuri is probably going to gather information to understand the whole situation better and she how she can: 1) Create an opportunity for Yuzu and 2) Get one on Mei.

This, to be entirely and quite honest, famalam.
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>>2638522
They broke up at the end of volume 9. So 5 volumes dating. I think 11 volumes are more likely, if only because Harumin and especially Matsuri being thrown to the conflict, because everything else has been resolved so easily. Volume 11 cover can have both Yuzu and Mei together representing their renewed romance.
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>>2638539
Volume 9 was still the start of this arc and the problem was introduced then, so really volumes 9+ will be the resolution to the series.
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The reason why I think it might have 12 volumes is that the drama can be resolved in volume 11 and then volume 12 can be their graduation and everyone making their future plans. Maybe have a timeskip ending to see everyone a few years into the future.
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>>2638545
A full volume dedicated to what happens after Yuzu and Mei get back together?

I was expecting maybe a bonus chapter at the end of a volume or something along those lines.
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>>2638548
Saburouta hyping up a happy future for years only have to it be a bonus chapter would be very anticlimactic. Plus there's a chance the "where are they now" applies to all characters, so a bonus chapter wouldn't really be enough to show everyone.
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>>2638551
Or the last chapter can be really long, featuring wedding and a timeskip showing them a few years after. The bonus chapters can give more insight regarding the side characters.
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Jusst realized it was Matsuri who said/thought, "You kept saying you weren't interested, but I had the feeling you went that way..." about Harumin. Which makes more sense because Harumin never asked Yuzu about being interested in Mei, so it couldn't have been her who said that piece of dialogue.

Considering all the other facial expressions Harumin makes, it's actually pretty obvious that Harumin had to swallow being put in the friendzone here. Sad but definitely my favorite scene of this manga so far, now that I understood it. Brilliant case of "show, don't tell".
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When Shou said he'd lend Yuzu his strength do you think he meant metaphorically, or that he might pull some strings to help Yuzu out in some way?
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The discussions in Dynasty scans are full of idiots. Sometimes it's hard to understand what they are expecting from Citrus.
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>>2638576
What's the problem?
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>>2638564
Well, in the Spanish version he says something like this: "and now, I can help you with some things".
So, maybe, he will do something to help Yuzu out somehow.
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>>2638578
It's already been pointed out that the Spanish translations have mistakes compared to the English and Japanese versions.
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>>2638576
Yeah, expecting basic writing competence is just way too much.
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>The logical step is to legally make them part of the same family unit, either for the parents of one of the girls to adopt the other or, in some cases, for the older person in the couple to adopt the younger, thus giving them inheritance rights as the oldest child.

No wonder Matsuri called Harumin "mama".
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>>2638579
Although, it could be useful to read the two versions.
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>>2638586
True, but the Spanish version having errors like omitting Masturi mentioning revenge and instead just saying she'll be helping Yuzu doesn't make it seem very accurate.
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>>2638581
Expecting something like that from Saburouta is impossible.
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>>2638518
>2 more volumes of Mei wanting to marry a guy

No thank you.
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>>2638596
I can't wait for the reactions when Yuzu first goes to see Mei and Mei tells her to fuck off and leave her alone.
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>>2638596
Mei doesn't want to marry this fucker. Like always, she's just doing it for her grandfather's sake. It's really annoying.
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>>2638600
At this point, it seems that Saburouta is trying to fix this drama as soon as possible. So i guess everything will start to get solved really easily.
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>>2638604
Even Matsuri warned that Yuzu was celebrating prematurely and things won't go that easily.
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>Yuzu is way too selfish on this one. She came out of the closet and forced Mei to do so. This isn't something you do for someone. This is a personal choice and even though it went very well, she shouldn't have done that.

>Plus, she is forcing this relationship. Mei chose another path, and Yuzu doesn't respect that. Love doesn't justify all means. Let's imagine Mei is coming back to Yuzu, I don't think she will be thrilled AT ALL that Yuzu say all of those things.

>The fact that everyone is supportive is great but I really don't like how it happened. This is either poorly written or it will backfire at Yuzu (and even though Mei had been hard on her, she would deserve it this time).
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>>2638612
What a retard ... I saw stupid comments about whinners who whines that the last chapter is always shitty and always come back after reading the next one ...

But, we have a champion, maybe a troll, who clearly didn't understand. Himeko maybe?
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>>2638624
The comment is pretty silly considering it's fiction, but in real life you wouldn't just out someone else like that. That's a big no-no. The argument about Mei's path isn't an issue, since it's been established countless times now that Mei doesn't really want to go along with the arranged marriage.
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>>2638628
The coming out comment isn't the problem, but the guy clearly didn't read the manga well. Mei didn't really choose her path faithfully... Saying Yuzu doesn't respect her choice, she did that 8 months before being sure Mei's choice wasn't the one. And implying Yuzu deserves to see her plans backfire ...

The guy just want Mei to marry the man, so why reading the story?
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>>2638612
>I find myself agreeing completely. Perhaps it is my extreme dislike of breaching other person's privacy, plus the meddling nature of it all, but I am unable to really support Yuzu's choices here. Outing your (technically) ex-lover to other people, who are her immediate family no less, is a really dick move. Sure, it went well, but that does not make it acceptable. Bonus points (in a negative manner) for doing it in order to enlist their help (or approval, at the very least) in an effort to go against Mei's personal choices. Do I think Mei made some poor decisions? Certainly, even though I understand her reasons. But those poor decisions are hers to make, Yuzu going against that is not really something I can root for.

>And Shou pisses me off with the caring father act, as always. The Bohemian retard is the single most responsible culprit for Mei even being in this situation to begin with, if he wanted to appear all fatherly and shit, he should have done so years and years ago. And of course, meddling in his daughter's choices is apparently perfectly acceptable since her choice is to uphold the familial duty. If she decided to be an irresponsible hippie like him, I guess her decisions would have been respected then, the fucking hypocrite.
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Let's be honest, Mei isn't suited to be chairwoman of the school anyway. She fakes having authority, but doesn't have the same presence Mitsuko had. In that sense, I think Mitsuko is the type of girl that gramps wished that Mei was.
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In one hand I agree with this, but... We all know how autistic Mei is. Sometimes people can make wrong decisions and it was NOT her personal choice, she was forced to this by her grandfather. She must be forced to do something this is who she is. Yuzu just wasn't persistent enough so Mei decided to pick gramp's side.
Ofc it's rather poor writing than this, but... I mean that there's another way to explain it
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>>2638646
Who's that guy? I mean, he's expecting Citrus to be way to realistic. Also, it's funny how he wants Citrus to get a het ending. I mean, Citrus is a flagship series published in Yurihime, so het is impossible at this point.

To be honest, it seems that he didn't read the manga at all. It's obvious that Mei isn't doing it because she wants to. The letter, Sara and Shou's speech makes it clear.
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>retards posting Dynasty comments and then complaining about them
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>>2638641
>>And Shou pisses me off with the caring father act, as always. The Bohemian retard is the single most responsible culprit for Mei even being in this situation to begin with, if he wanted to appear all fatherly and shit, he should have done so years and years ago. And of course, meddling in his daughter's choices is apparently perfectly acceptable since her choice is to uphold the familial duty. If she decided to be an irresponsible hippie like him, I guess her decisions would have been respected then, the fucking hypocrite.
I mean, she's not wrong here.
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>>2638646
Inheriting the school was her personal choice at first but it (probably) stopped being her top priority along the way when she found out other important things in life, like the need to munch on the citrus' carpet.
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As I mentioned before, she's autistic. Being isolated from everything around, possessed only by her duty... She even don't have parents who can stop this shit. It's just wrong to call it "her choice", it's the only thing that she knows and she'll probably end up like her father as a hippie one day (when she finally realize it)
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>>2638697
She's kind of like Masturi, but in reverse. Matsuri acts out to get attention since her parents neglect her. Dyed hair, pierced ears, punk fashion, does dangerous things etc.
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>>2638705
Mei wants attention too, it's like she just doesn't know how to ask for it
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>>2638715
That's part of why Mei liked Yuzu so much as she stated in volume 3, that Yuzu gave her love without Mei having to ask for it.
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>>2638697
So? You probably don't know any better, either, since you spent your time on 4chan discussing yuri manga. Yet it's all by your choice. It's not like Mei's choice is all that bad from a realistic standpoint
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>>2638718
>It's not like Mei's choice is all that bad from a realistic standpoint
True, but it's constantly emphasized in the story that Mei's choice is making her miserable and that she doesn't really want to do it despite what she tells others and probably herself.

And the fact that it's a yuri romance manga with her as one of the leads, so her choice to leave Yuzu is obviously going to crumble at some point.
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>>2638718
Well, to be honest, I'm here because I have to practice my shitty English somewhere
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Almost nobody in this manga trusts each others decisions.

Yuzu and Shou want to convince Mei not to go along with the arranged marrige.

Meanwhile Matsuri thinks that whatever Yuzu's idea to get Mei back won't be enough and has her own solo plan in motion to help Yuzu while at the same time messing with Mei's plans.
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I'd say there's like a 50% chance that Matsuri's plan backfires on Mei or herself in some way. Then it'll be up to Harumin and Yuzu to save their retarded waifus.
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>come out as a homo and pseudo siscon
>everyone's cool with it, including adults

Hmmmm?????

Art was great this chapter though. Harumin's faces were amazing
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>>2638784
>everyone's cool with it, including adults
Harumin's Yuzu's best friend and likely suspected it the entire time. We learned she was cool with girls dating back in volume 1.

As for their parents, they're both open-minded screw-ups. And their marriage is a sham so that Ume and Yuzu could act like Mei's family. They probably don't really consider the two girls to be real stepsisters.
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>>2638721
You'll be better with a teacher, nee-san. But if you want feedback, it's still kind of shitty.
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I found an alternative translation to one of Harumin's lines in the chapter.

>"You kept insisting that you weren't interested in anyone, but just as I thought, it was Yuzu-chan, wasn't it..."

So instead of just implying Harumin was a lesbian, it meant Harumin was interested in Yuzu specifically.
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Here's the raw version. It does mention Yuzu's name.
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Harumin's in love with Yuzu but kept it a secret from Yuzu for Yuzu's sake confirmed!

I wonder if this piece of info is something Matsuri will use to try and force Mei's hand.
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>>2638848
why don't you read the Japanese text instead of relying on shitty translations
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>>2638848
That line isn't Harumi's but Matsuri's thoughts though. Whether she got her right or not is left to be seen, but Matsuri's tends to be spot on when it comes down to reading people. She's probably as good as Shirapon-senpai.
That being said, regardless of the trainslation, Harumi's thoughts clearly show she thinks Harumi has a thing for Yuzu.
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>>2638883
>Harumi's thoughts clearly show
I meant Matsuri's thoughts, of course.
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>>2638883
>>2638885
Yeah, I meant Matsuri too.

I don't know if Matsuri's on Shiraho's level. At the very least younger Matsuri fell for Yuzu's ruse of being boy crazy and was shocked that she was into Mei, and thought Mei had manipulated her into it somehow.

Given how annoyed Harumin acted when Matsuri brought up her love life, I think Harumin is secretly in love with someone. Whether that person be: Yuzu, Mitsuko, or even Matsuri herself. It's just for some reason Harumin refuses to act on her romantic feelings. Probably some past bad experience that happened before the start of the series.
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>>2638888
Matsuri fell for Yuzu's ruse because Yuzu's behaviour gave her any reason to think otherwise. Same with Shirapon-senpai. It's not as if she smelled the gay from Yuzu, but she had to actually witness Yuzu and Mei kissing to realise what Yuzu and Mei's relationship was.

Also, it's not as if Matsuri was entirely off on Mei back in volume 3.
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>>2638894
Odds are that Harumin's in love with Yuzu, the only other option is if Saburouta plans on a twist and that Matsuri misinterpreted Harumin's close friendship with Yuzu early on. Harumin is very physical and touchy, like when she just randomly went up to Himeko during the summer trip and put her arm around her. And then when Yuzu confessed her forbidden love to Harumin, it made Harumin think about her own forbidden/impossible love, which Matsuri then misinterpreted again. But Harumin being in love with Yuzu is the much more likely option at this point.
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>>2638898
Yeah, I do agree that's an option. Matsuri has been inquiring Harumi about her feelings for Yuzu time and time again, and she's denied them every single time. However, it's always been clear that Yuzu is more than just a friend to Harumi (and that would hold if Harumi isn't actually in love with Yuzu).

Mind you, I can see the possibility of a twist there regarding Harumi's feelings, in which she doesn't love Yuzu, but Yuzu's feelings remind her of something she had before with someone else (kinda like YagaKimi's Sayaka, but unlike her who embraced her homosexuality and moved on, Harumi hasn't been able to). That being said, I don't think Harumi sees Matsuri that way either. Only recently did Matsuri gain her trust, and she probably sees her as a little sister of sorts.

If Saburouta is clever, she'll just set up whatever issue with Harumi and leave it unresolved, and then used that setup as a basis for a spin-off series with Matsuri and and Harumi as MCs. She could even call it Spring Festival.
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>>2638913
I'm sure Harumin's feelings about Matsuri are complex, even if Harumin has no romantic interest in her.
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>>2638787
>They probably don't really consider the two girls to be real stepsisters
to be fair i'd be surprised if anyone did. they're so newly "family" that they even met outside the home before meeting as "sisters"
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>>2639030
delete this
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I'm surprised people aren't reacting more to the almost certain confirmation that Harumin is in love with Yuzu, but gave up when Yuzu confessed that she loved Mei.

I mean this is the development that people were saying they'd dread to happen and didn't want the series to do it.
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So, how high are the chances that Mei is actually doing something?
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>>2639202
Almost none. Shou just said this chapter that Mei is being stubborn and is saying the arranged marriage is her decision even though Shou could tell that Mei was forcing herself to go along with it.

Basically we have Yuzu planning to pursue Mei with Harumin's help somehow, while Matsuri plans to gather info on the situation and enact her own sneaky plan of some sort as a way to settle the score with Mei.
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>>2639170
Because it's clearly going nowhere? She's not going to become a rival or anything. She just became a honorary member of the Yayas now.
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I can see it now. Matsuri's plan puts more stress on Mei and in her frantic state Mei steps into the street only to get a visit from Truck-kun. Then it's everyone hoping for Mei to wake up, with gramps realizing he's an idiot. And Harumin has to comfort Matsuri who (rightfully) blames herself. Yuzu is the first one Mei sees when she wakes up.
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>>2639211
>Because it's clearly going nowhere?
Matsuri seemed to form her revenge plot after seeing how Harumin reacted to Yuzu telling her about Mei. So Harumin's feelings for Yuzu might actually be a part of Matsuri's scheme somehow, so Harumin might end up as an unwitting pawn in whatever Matsuri's probably well-intentioned plot is.
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>>2639216
I just meant that her feelings for Yuzu are going nowhere.
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>>2639216
I reread the chapter. i coudl'nt wrap my mind on the flag victory mention.

Does Matsuri think that Yuzu became a sort of rival for her cause she thinks Harumi confessed or something? Her next speech mention something like "with that" (after misreading the scene) "i can now take my revenge". I fear that Matsuri will create a drama that will hurt Yuzu and Harumi.
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>>2639231
>i coudl'nt wrap my mind on the flag victory mention.
I think it refers to Matsuri figuring out that Yuzu plans to get Mei back, while Harumin had to swallow her feelings and be supportive. She's saying Yuzu is considering the game of winning Mei's heart won before the game's over. But what of Matsuri's revenge? Is it to help Yuzu get Mei back while just having fun messing with Mei's plan in the process?

The other option is if Nene and Matsuri saw Harumin's "confession" and assumed it was legit. At which point Matsuri's victory flag statement becomes more concerning, but the end result is still probably Matsuri trying to get Mei back with Yuzu so that Harumin won't start a relationship with someone else. Even earlier in the chapter Matsuri was concerned that Harumin had started seeing someone.
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>>2639231
Could be that Matsuri may have misunderstood and thinks that Harumin and Yuzu are a thing now, so now she's free to finally get her revenge on Mei, since she thinks Mei's no longer a concern of Yuzu's.
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>>2639235
It doesn't make much sense for Matsuri to make the "raising the flag" comparison if she thinks Yuzu and Harumi are a thing now, and then her reaction is to get revenge on Mei.
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>>2639231

Matsuri thinks that Harumi confessed and seeing Yuzu's reaction, she believes that Yuzu didn't flatly rejected her.

So, her doubts were real ... but she made a big mistake understanding the scene cause she didn't hear Yuzu's confession. She thinks that she lost to Yuzu Harumi's bowl, hence the victory flag mention totally out of the blue if she implies Yuzu wants Mei back (cause Matsuri didn't hear anything).
So she wonders if Yuzu will accept Harumi hence Yuzu's plan mention that we believed to be addressed to Yuzu's plan to have Mei back.

And so, now, knowing that she lost Harumi, she has a clear path to take a revenge on Mei and playing dirty tricks about Yuzu being now with Harumi...

Next chapter isn't volume 10 last one, make my word.
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>>2639236
It fits. She thinks Yuzu won the game, the game is Harumi's heart.
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>>2639236
>It doesn't make much sense for Matsuri to make the "raising the flag" comparison if she thinks Yuzu and Harumi are a thing now
Matsuri has been raising her own flags with Harumin for awhile now.>>2639030. But I think the comment about revenge on Mei is a separate matter, since Matsuri said "anyway", like she was changing the subject to be about her revenge plot. This new development spurred Matsuri into action, since she hasn't done anything to Mei for months. So either she knows Yuzu wants back with Mei, or she thinks Yuzu is over Mei and has moved on.
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>>2639240
Harumin's prank confession of doom.
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Does the Japanese think that Matsuri misunderstood the conversation?
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>>2639251
How would they know any better than us? They would've read roughly the same conversation.
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>>2639239
This makes sense. They followed Harumin, missed the start of the conversation, couldn't hear what they were saying (Matsuri ignored Nene's suggestion to get more info), and then left before things resolved. All they likely saw was Harumin telling Yuzu something so flustering she made an embarrassed face and fell over (since Yuzu thought it was a confession at first), then the two of them being all happy and close together.
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>>2639252
They are ecstatic about Ume being great, Harumi being a great friend and just mention that Matsuri decided to move too but i didn't see anyone suspecting Matsuri thinking Harumi confessed and being jealous over that.
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>>2639262
>i didn't see anyone suspecting Matsuri thinking Harumi confessed and being jealous over that.
Matsuri was making a pretty negative face when she looked to see how happy Harumin was and thought that Harumin was in love with Yuzu.

>"You kept insisting that you weren't interested in anyone, but just as I thought, it was Yuzu-chan, wasn't it..."

And this is after Matsuri accused Harumin of dating someone earlier in the chapter.
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>>2639240
>>2639243
Still, it makes no sense, since Matsuri, upon claiming that Yuzu is "raising her flag" she wonders what she's planning to do. So, Matsuri thinks Yuzu is up to something. Why would she wonder about Yuzu's plans if she thinks that what she saw was Yuzu and Haruminnis getting together?

Also, the revenge on Mei is connected to her thoughts on Yuzu. Matsuri says "まあでも、こらで芽衣さんにリベンジできるかな", which literally means, "But, well, I wonder if I'll be able to get revenge on Mei-san with this (referencing to whatever Yuzu is planning on doing)".
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>>2639271
She might only think Harumin confessed but isn't sure of Yuzu's answer.
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>>2639271
Matsuri can think Yuzu didn't reject Harumi and wonder if what is Yuzu's plan about that, accepting, moving on from Mei or friend zoning Haru for good (she doesn't know it was already done).
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>>2639271
Fair point even though i stand on my interpretation about Matsuri just misreading things. But, to play devil advocate on my own theory, Matsuri seems to have a genuine smile on the panel where she says "anyway". Not a doom-laden one.
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>>2639281
Lol, if Yuzu and Harumin start to act secretive in their plans about Mei, so Nene and Matsuri suspect something is going on between them even more.
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>>2639170
>almost certain
Yeah, where? Indulge me.
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>>2639333
CT mistranslated a line and Matsuri was really saying that Harumin was interested in Yuzu.>>2639267

raws confirm Yuzu's name was mentioned instead of "you went that way."
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>>2639368
The line is not so detaile. There is Yuzu-chan, but it’s not interest in anyone... more «you said you were not interested/you didn’t care... but, as expected/of course, it was Yuzu-chan all along». It can also refers to chapter 37 where Matsuri is disapointed that Harumi stated she is not interested in the reasons why Yuzu is depressed and comes home.

The Japanese line is so subtle so it lets open different interpretations including the one about Matsuri having confirmation that Harumi faked being indifferent to Yuzu’s depressive state while she was worried as fuck. So i wouldn’t jump like other people here on the Matsuri-believes-Harumi-loves-Yuzu bandwagon.
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>>2639368
You're right. Matsuri says "Yuzu-chan" "柚子ちゃん"
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Seeing all these theories makes me feel like I oversimplified the matter but the way I read the ending was that:
>Matsuri knows something is wrong with Yuzu (because she already knew the truth about Mei and Yuzu)
>Matsuri was worried about Harumi and Yuzu's friendship (re: previous chapter and getting angry at Harumin for not doing anything)
>Matsuri sees Yuzu and Harumi smiling together again
>she's relieved to see that Yuzu is back to her old self
>she's relieved that she doesn't need to worry about Yuzu and Harumi's friendship anymore
>she knows that the only thing that would bring old Yuzu back is Mei
>she concludes that Yuzu is planning on something to get Mei back
>she decides to help Yuzu on her own part
I didn't think there was anything ominous about what she said at the end. "Getting revenge on Mei" could mean a million things but Matsuri has been shown to be more of a trickster than a villain. I doubt she would do anything stupid, not at this stage.
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>>2639376
Matsuri has believed that Harumin's loved Yuzu since the volume 3 bonus chapter.
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>>2639404
Thing is, Matsuri can be careless. And both drama CDs have Harumin warn Matsuri not to manipulate people or it will backfire eventually. Seems like foreshadowing to me.
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>>2639404
Your interpretation makes sense, but the main reason I doubt it is that Harumin's fake out confession may have another story purpose. Nene and Matsuri missed the start and end of the conversation, couldn't hear what was being said, and saw Yuzu react to what she thought was a real confession at the time. They're going purely by body language.Nene's reaction showed how major she saw it, while Matsuri thinking Harumin liked Yuzu has been a thing since volume 3. Plus, the conversation earlier in the chapter where Matsuri accused Harumin of dating someone.
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>>2639445
That can also simply be once again Matsuri trying to set up her own plan to move things aside from Yuzu.
Matsuri wonders what is Yuzu's plan since she seems in high spirit once again. But yuzu is Yuzu ... Matsuri will gather info, that means that she won't use something she already has or already knows, it clearly points to Udagawa being discovered.
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>>2639698
Matsuri was pretty depressed when Udagawa disappeared without saying a word. After the café closed down she told Harumi she thought they were friends. Matsuri would probably NOT be happy to find out he's getting married to Mei of all people.
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>>2639749
Betrayal yeah, and a Matsuri feeling betrayed could create some havoc. And Yuzu discovering that her rival is Udagawa could really break her spirit, cause the guy is nice and she respected him.
That is why, Harumi coming into the game could help solve that in prediction. She will control Matsuri's outburst and probably will be a wise presence to help Yuzu. I think we could also have Mitsuko in the game through Harumi if Harumi's progression here is to head into action and give up for good her desire to see things from the distance.
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>>2639765
>Yuzu discovering that her rival is Udagawa could really break her spirit, cause the guy is nice and she respected him.

I doubt about it. Udagawa isn’t the problem. If anything, Yuzu will just explain the situation to him (just like what happened in volume 4). To be honest, Udagawa really likes Yuzu, so he’ll support her once he finds out the truth.
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So the Japanese readers are pleased by the current development in chapter 39. It's funny how the westerners are the only ones overreacting it. I mean, only the nips opinions matters after all.
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>>2639813
Yep, they like it, Yuzu is once again the sunshine, Harumi is a great friend and in full support mode, the parents were amazing ... they loved it and are happy to see some hope now. they half expect some prank from Matsuri, but nobody (from what i have saw) see any HaruYuzu undertones from Harumi so perspective is totally different.
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>>2639800
Depends what level of realism Saburouta goes with for him. If he backs out of the engagement, it will damage his family's reputation and harm their ties with the Aihara's. From their perspective, it will also look like he's just running away from his responsibilities again, which might be how he would see it too.
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Someone from CT said they'd upload a corrected translation for Masturi's line about Harumin from chapter 39.

Also, if anyone from CT is here, any chance of correcting grandpa Aihara's line in chapter 4 about Mei doing what she wants to "for now" or "for the time being"? It would help English-speaking fans realize there was a timer on Mei's freedom from the start.
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I wonder if this means Harumin will end up asking for Yuzu's help later on with something, because so far Harumin hasn't asked for help with anything.
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>>2639973
Do I need to clear my cache? They said they replaced the page, but it's still showing the old translation.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/citrus_ch39#31
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>>2640040
yes, they replaced it clear your cache
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>>2640043
So the speech can also come from Matsuri answering to Nene. Subject changed, the "you" became "i".
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>>2640043
Oh, the line was Masturi responding to Nene.

Is it normal to remove the pauses at the end?>>2638868
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>>2640043
Huh? Matsuri never told Nene she wasn't interested. In fact it was Matsuri who suggested they follow Harumin to see what was up in order to stop Nene's freakout.
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>>2640043
This is so confusing... So know Matsuri wasn't reflecting about what Harumin said to her about not liking Yuzu? Or she was?
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>>2640130
According to >>2640043 she was not.
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>>2640130
>>2640138
There's what >>2639376 translated as well.
>«you said you were not interested/you didn’t care... but, as expected/of course, it was Yuzu-chan all along»

It's unclear in the original Japanese if Matsuri was thinking about Harumin or talking to Nene. And as said, Matsuri never told Nene before about not being interested, so that line doesn't match up with her talking to Nene.
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>>2640142
Well, I think she was talking to Nene, because thoughts use to be written in squares.
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>>2640199
She could've just been muttering about Harumin to herself. And as I pointed out before, Matsuri never told Nene she wasn't interested, so it's bringing up something that never happened if she's talking to Nene.
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>>2640203
Maybe...
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>>2640245
It's just the "not interested" line seems like an obvious callback to Matsuri's conversation where Harumin said she wasn't interested why Yuzu was acting odd. And as we know, Saburouta loves her callbacks. So compared to that, I just think that Matsuri mentioning something she never said on-panel to Nene seems less likely.
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>>2640245
>>2640251
Though to be fair, I'm not saying CT's new TL is wrong, it's just another way of interpreting the line.

And it's not like people can ask Saburouta for clarification, since you're reading an unofficial copy of her work online.
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Yes, don't be like some people on dynasty and suggest contacting Saburouta to complain that you don't like where her story is going from your western perspective, especially since the volumes in question aren't officially released in English yet.

For the record, volume 8 doesn't come out in English until September.
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>>2640268
>don't be like some people on dynasty and suggest contacting Saburouta to complain that you don't like where her story is going from your western perspective
Hahaha... Oh wow, did people really do that?
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>>2640286
Yes, after chapter 39 came out. Apparently Yuzu outing Mei to their parents offended some people. Or they thought that their parents accepted Yuzu's confession too easily and how dare Shou interfere with Mei's life when he's been out of the picture until now.
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>>2640287
Haha... What a bunch of tools.
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>>2640306
Given the premise of the story centered around Yuzu and Mei from the start, people shouldn't be surprised.

Personally, unless Citrus develops Harumin and Matsuri more, I'd like to see "Spring Festival" with Harumin and Matsuri as the leads. They have good interactions, so it'd be fun to see.
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>>2640311
i'm not surprised and have no expectations, i just love haruyuzu :(
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>>2640311
For those that don't know, Spring=Haru, while Festival is just Matsuri in English. Given that Citrus=Yuzu, the title would make alot of sense.
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Assuming CT's translation of page 31 is the one intended, then it's Matsuri saying she isn't interested in what Harumin and Yuzu are talking about. That's not a very smart thing Matsuri did in that case, since what if her plans end up going against what Harumin and Yuzu come up with? It'd be better if she tells them she knows and wants in, versus doing random things on her own that could catch everyone off guard.
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>>2640347
And the thing is, Matsuri's plans have a tendency to backfire. In volume Mei turned Matsuri's plan into a way to test Yuzu's reaction. And the summer trip Matsuri came up with is what helped trigger Yuzu into pressing Mei and then subsequently backing off at a crucial time. I doubt this will go any differently.
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>>2640287
It’s fun to read their reactions, since they’re stupid as fuck. Also, the westerners are the only ones complaining about the current development, since the nips loved the new chapter.
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>>2640353
I liked the new chapter since it means Matsuri and Harumin will be relevant. Plus, everyone being depressed was getting old, so I'm glad a more positive mood showed up.
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i hate matsuri
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>>2640359
She's fun and has great taste in women, so I can't fault her too much.
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>>2640356
I can’t wait to see more Yuzu, Harumin and Matsuri. I love these three. Their interactions are really nice (like the one in the vol 9 cd drama). And with chalter 39, everything feels back to normal, so i also liked this chapter.
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>>2640353
My main problem is that this arc started at the end of volume 8, built up a lot of drama only for almost everything be resolved so easily. The arc isn't over yet, but given the happy tone of this chapter, I doubt a huge drama will happen soon. I bet manager will find out the truth and back out in a simple way. At the end gramps won't be supported by anyone and maybe Yuzu will use the power of love to stop the wedding.
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>>2640375
Don't worry, anon. I'm sure Mei will act cold to Yuzu, refusing to go back to her at first. Manager might not back out right away due to family reputation concerns. Granpa could try to keep Yuzu from seeing Mei. And maybe Matsuri's plan causes some sort of issue for Mei's family.
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>>2640379
Don't get me wrong, I hate Citrus' stupid drama, it's just that building up so much drama and tension only to resolve so many threads in one chapter feels like bad writing.
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Kind of funny people used to complain that Saburouta ended all arcs in a volume, but now that we have an arc span about 2 volumes many people are sick of it and want it to be over. Maybe it was just the choice of drama though.
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>>2640382
Maybe Saburouta realized she bit off more than she could chew and decided to resolve some things, so she could focus on the main issues.

The other option is if this tone change is a ruse and the real drama is yet to come. As Matsuri said, Yuzu was raising her victory flag too soon.
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>>2640002
She hasn't, but the sole reason why she's been able to mend her relationship with her sister is because of Yuzu - you know, back during the elections deal when Harumi decided to cower in fear do nothing. So, maybe, she thinks she owes her.
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>>2640349
I think the latter is a bit of a stretch. Thing were indeed going smoothly until the drama with the fiancé became clear and Mei realised the time for her charade was up.
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>>2640422
Learning to ask for help when you need it is a sign of growth. Yuzu has grown, so maybe it means Harumin's started to grow too.
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>>2640426
To be fair, it's perfectly understandable why Yuzu didn't ask for help before.
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>>2640425
>Mei realised the time for her charade was up.
And this is why Matsuri had her big blowup at the end of the summer trip. She went to such great lengths to give Yuzu and Mei an unforgettable summer together, and it ended with the reveal that Mei was planning to dump Yuzu eventually all along.
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>>2640429
Yeah, but that didn't happen due to some flaw in Matsuri's plans though, but because Himeko thought Yuzu deserved to know about Mei's engagement.
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>>2640437
When the reveal happened it seemed to be the result of everyone together causing secrets to be revealed. Himeko didn't start acting weird until Maruta's random comment in the bath. It was a series of coincidences that caused events to play out as they did.
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>>2640437
>>2640443
What I mean is, Matsuri can set things into motion, but she can't predict the actions of everyone involved. These hidden factors can easily lead to unintended domino effects.
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>>2640447
What can possibly go wrong now? Grandpa has cancer? The Aihara family is actually deep in debt and thus the need to marry Mei? The issue of Mei's homosexuality is somehow leaked to the public?
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>>2640485
>The issue of Mei's homosexuality is somehow leaked to the public?
This is the one I think is most likely if any new drama pops up. Maybe Matsuri tells Udagawa about Mei being Yuzu's lover and either grandpa or someone else overhears about it, so Matsuri accidentally outs Mei to the public.
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>>2640491
>grandpa or someone else overhears about it
Does grandpa really not know yet? He walked in on Mei trying to rape Yuzu, and surely he must have figured something was up with how Mei acted regarding the marriage.

I mean, maybe he thought it was "just a phase" or something but can he really be shocked to find out that Mei likes girls?
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>>2640663
Given what happened in chapter 4 I think Mei lied and made up an excuse for what gramps saw. Maybe something like Yuzu tried to talk to Mei and they got into a fight with Yuzu's shirt being torn open in the struggle until Yuzu managed to calm Mei down. That would be a partial truth.

As for Mei not being happy with the fiance business, it's possible he just sees it as normal nervousness. Or maybe he thinks she's just reluctant due to how her last fiance treated her. He might suspect something about Yuzu, but if he knows he doesn't care enough to stop Mei if she's willing to go along with what he expects of her. Remember gramps is very old fashioned.
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>>2638344
>>2638435
You're both awful people.
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>>2640778
It is almost like talking to your granddaughter could help him understand her but that will never happen in yuri (or romance) manga.
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>>2640805
Here's the thing, I don't think he wants to bring up why she's forcing herself about the engagement. He wants her to go along with it, and he still sees Shou as a failure, so he wants Mei to be his ideal successor.
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Just caught up, I called it last chapter! Yuzu came out! I knew her mom and Shou would support her but it was so fucking heartwarming I wanted to cry.
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I just hope Matsuri's plan makes things fun.
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>>2640805
To be fair, even in real life older people would try to avoid the issue, and if everyone can pretend the issue isn't there, then all the better. In this case, Mei is even doing what he wants (which he firmly believes is the best for her).

Also, remember that female homosexuality is seen as a joke in Japan and mostly as some kind of phase. So, if Grandpa had any suspicion about what Mei and Yuzu were doing that one time, he probably just brush it off as Mei playing around, but truly expected her to grow out of it eventually. So, with Mei accepting the engagement, he probably thinks his judgement was correct.

Mind you, this isn't to say Gramps wouldn't accept Mei if she told him she loves Yuzu and truly wants to commit to her, since I do think Grandpa would rather prioritise Mei's happiness above anything else, but if things go his way, he won't double-think if Mei's truly wants this.
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I still think it's funny that I predicted that Masturi would end up attending Aihara Academy months before it happened, and at the time everyone said it wouldn't happen because it would make no sense.
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>>2638545
But I don't want to see all the other girls married to guys like a timeskip would give us.
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>>2642131
There's a good chance they'd only show the girls and not any of their husbands on the chance they still go along with the arranged marriages, which they might not go along with them in the end.
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>>2642184
Mei going back with Yuzu and rejecting the marriage (and, who knows, choosing to reject her heritage because this school is ultimately toxic and a giant golden cage for its students) could provoke a domino effect. No implying everybody will turn lesbian, but Himeko and Shiraho could still choose to delay their engagement and marrying whoever they love if they find him/her.

In an epilogue, it could still happen.
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>>2642187
I'd like to picture an older Harumin and Matsuri together, with Matsuri's hair back to its natural color and Harumin no longer so anxious over her appearance goes back to wearing glasses (I assume she wears contacts now, since most people don't suddenly no longer require corrective lenses).
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People who complain about the pairings in Citrus clearly don't get what kind of pairings Saburouta likes. See pic related.

>I hate you!
>You piss me off!
>You arrogant pest!
>...Now I seriously need to stop thinking of you.
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>>2642375
They criticise Citrus for not being what the author never intended it to be. The author was clearly explicit about what we could expect. She has always been a sucker for dysfunctional couples, she explicitly stated that she loved the opposite attract dynamic (and all problems that can come with that), her manga is called Citrus ...

Indeed people who complain, especially since the last chapters on dynasty and other social media clearly misread the author's hints and tried to interpret her work through their own lenses and their owns disillusion. If the author had promised something else, fine, but she never took the reader by surprise. The cover you showed is one hint among full other ones about how she perceived her pairing since the beginning.
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>>2642187
That's actually what I was thinking. Yuzu and Mei causing their friends and possibly other girls to refuse to marry their arranged partner and marrying who they love. But if that doesn't happen, I hope Harumin at least gets a girlfriend and her sister and glasses end up together. If everyone else is a lost cause then oh well.
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>>2642408
Saburouta has been building up Harumin/Matsuri slowly since the volume 3 bonus chapter, mostly in the bonus chapters and drama CDs. I expect them to be confirmed by the end or to get a spinoff given their popularity and Harumin's unresolved backstory.

Mitsuko and Glasses-senpai is possible, but last we were shown Mitsuko was clueless about it. Not to mention some of Mitsuko's behavior could imply she has something of a sister complex for Harumin, so we'll have to see if anything happens with Glasses-senpai.
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Based Saburota Puppet Account.
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>>2642420
Nice one but it is not Saburouta, the style is different. It was already debated but the artist was a special guest among other artists in the Citrus Fanbook. Probably someone who worked on the anime or in the author's environment (assistant, a promising student in manga art since it was reported by a student of a drawing school that Saburouta came one month ago visiting them and being part of a special lesson).
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I can't wait until this dialogue basically will repeat itself soon.
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>>2642454
This just shows that Mei's actions now are really no different than they were in volume 1. It's a huge character regression on Mei's part as soon as her grandfather came back into the story.
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It's funny what details I overlooked or forgot reading the manga before. Harumin did ask Yuzu who she was in love with in chapter 7. Yuzu didn't answer her on that, then Mei interrupted them so Yuzu's hair didn't end up getting cut.
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- Matsuri likes Harumin's breasts and gropes them whenever she sees a chance.

- Matsuri has a mother complex toward Harumin as revealed in the volume 9 drama CD.

- Matsuri has a cat theme with her outfits and some of her behaviors.

The breastsucking doujins practically write themselves.
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I just realized that we know the ages of most of the characters based on Shiraho's comment in chapter 25. Yuzu was 16 at the time, which means after the timeskip Yuzu is 17. Mei, Harumin, and Himeko are all also likely 17. That makes Matsuri who's 2 years younger than most of the girls, 15.
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>>2642375
>>2642385
My love for opposites attract characters is why I fell in love with the series in the first place. Whenever I see people saying Yuzu should get with Harumin I want to vomit, not because I hate Harumin but because they don't fucking get it at all.
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>>2642631
What are your thoughts on Harumin/Matsuri?
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I find it weird that in-universe Mei is supposed to be super attractive, but both in the manga and anime I've always thought that Harumin looks better. Plus the sleepover bonus chapter revealed that Mei is a chestlet compared to Harumin.
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>>2642631
>My love for opposites attract characters is why I fell in love with the series in the first place.
This for me as well. But Mei is so shit I stopped caring. HaruMatsu keeps me reading this trite.
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>>2642647
Mei = natural beauty, or classical Japanese beauty standards. She's got the creamy white skin, long black hair, slender, stern and graceful etc.

Harumin = Party girl look and lotsa makeup and accessories. She's trendy.
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Mei was reading a book called "The Cat Who Is Late to the Meeting" in volume 8. Unless that refers to a real book title, then it could be referring to Matsuri because of her cat theme. Could be about her finding out about Mei's engagement after most of the cast, or it could be about the current arc in the manga where she goes solo instead of collaborating with Yuzu and Harumin.
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>>2642643
I dig it.

But I must admit my crackships are Yuzu x Momokino and Mei x Harumin.

Double Suicide Mode: Mei x Matsuri.
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>>2642677
>lotsa makeup
That was true in the anime, but she wouldn't be wearing makeup in the bath, and she just came from school in chapter 39, so she wouldn't be wearing a ton of makeup then either. I noticed that Saburouta has been drawing Harumin with a more mature beauty for the last couple of volumes even when not in gyaru mode.
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>>2642679
>Mei x Harumin
The funny thing here is that Harumin and Yuzu are so alike in many ways. But Harumin herself also admitted she got bad vibes from Mei, probably due to her similarities to her sister. And Harumin even said that if not for Yuzu they two of them likely wouldn't have spoken to each other for their entire high school years. Which I find ironic, since Harumin was a chronic rule breaker before Yuzu even showed up.
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>>2642677
>slender
I find this one a bit odd considering just about every female member of the cast that's commented on it consider Harumin's boobs to be the holy grail.




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