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Higurashi and Umineko yuri thread.
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Yes, it exists.
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Yuri sisters are best
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>>2673158
Considering the events of Watanagashi-hen, Meakashi-hen and Taraimawashi-hen, this seems more unlikely than a K1xTakano pairing.
Tsukiotoshi-hen implies that Shion is still mad at Mion for the whole tattoo swap thing even in her sane mental state.
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its funny how short these 18 year olds are
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>>2673343
Who told you they were 18?
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>TakanoxRena
Come to think of it, pic related actually happened.
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Posting best Umineko yuri pair.
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>>2673169
>Taraimawashi-hen
>Tsukiotoshi-hen
These are not cannon
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>>2675383
Are any of the console arcs canon?
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>>2675387
No
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>>2675381
I prefer Bern x Erika, but that's lovely, too.
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Posting more Takano x Rena.
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>>2673146
>Rika x Satoko
I still remembered a drama cd about Satoko running away from home because she had a fight with Rika. They’re so cute.
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>>2675387
>>2675393
Ther's no such a thing as non-canon in Higurashi. This isn't Star Wars.
Matsuribayashi-hen and Miotsukushi-hen are different. I think R07 said that you can pick the one that you think is the most fitting for the finale for the Higurashi series
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>No love for Natsumi
Honestly, when I was reading Someutsushi-hen and Kageboshi-hen, I unironically thought that Chisato is in love with Natsu.
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>>2675852
Ah yes, definitely. To me, Chisato always sounded like the type of girl who jokes a lot to hide her real feelings. I was actually very confused when it turned out she liked Akira, I assumed she was jealous of Natsumi due to being in love with her. I love the Natsumi arcs and I think they're pretty cool, but they're even more het then the main ones, honestly, and as a yuri fan it's quite annoying after a while.
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>>2675844
We could say joke arcs like Batsukoishi-hen or Ayakashisenshi-hen are non-canon, at least...?
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>>2675968
Yeah, those are definitely not canon.
I think Hanyuu is giving autistic dreams to Rika, like she did in Saikoroshi-hen, though I'm still not sure if that arc really was a dream or Hanyuu just lied
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>>2675967
To be honest, the whole Akira-Natsumi love feels kinda forced. It was ok in Onisarashi-hen, since Akira was actually doing something to help Natsumi, but in Someutsushi-hen and Kageboshi-hen, the very existence of Akira is forced. It's like he's there for the sake of being there, he doesn't really do anything (though I really like Akira's conversation with Ooishi in Kageboshi-hen).
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Bosom buddies.
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>>2676066
>Shannon's boobs are fake.
>Shannon and Jessica will never hold a girly sleepover where they shyly compare breasts.
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>>2676073
Shkanontrice pretty much killed Jessica x Shannon, at least for me.
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>>2676078
There's always the Golden Land.
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Lambda x Bern is the best pairing of all, not posting pictures because I'm using a different computer.

Umineko/Higurashi are just so damn unique. wish there were similar stories out there
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>>2676177
Apparently a new When They Cry is coming out this year
I'm still not sure if that's a boy or a girl
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>>2673349
"All characters in this game are 18 and up."
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>>2675381
Superb taste.
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>>2676090
No yuri no Golden Land.
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>>2676073
Source for nude edits like those?
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>>2676695
Some people have noticed the new character looks like the prototype of Erika... although she was originally male. From the wikia:

>Virgilia was originally a man named Virgilius, who was to appear in Land of the Golden Witch as an antagonist who saw everything from a different perspective then Battler and would argue against his reasoning.
>This character was later adapted into End of the Golden Witch as Erika Furudo.

Still hope the new character is a girl, though.
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>>2676695
Source? All results on WtC 5 are from last year.
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>>2676754
I made them myself, along with several others.
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>>2677012
Check the official twitter.
https://twitter.com/07th_official/status/1018148111254896642
Witch hunt has also announced their plans to translate it. Also, Umineko Saku will be coming out as well.
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Have some sinful yuri.
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>>2677778
This is way too lewd. I wasn't ready.

>>2677773
I like your edits. Please make more, onee-chan.
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>>2678433
Thanks. I've got plenty more already made, just not that many yuri ones.
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>>2678433
>Bernkastel with tits
Lol, that kind of miracle doesn't happen
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>>2678543
You fool. Allow me to educate you on the truth of Bern's bust. More often than not she's depicted with a decent rack. It's only in the anime that she went full Rika clone and was turned into a flat chest.
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>>2678433
How's this?
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>>2678546
Pretty Nice. Anything with the aunts?
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>>2678545
She changes her chest at will to fit the meta
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>>2678825
Eva.
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>>2678825
And Kyrie.
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>>2678543
>>2678545
Clearly, the real mystery in Umineko is Bernkastel's canon bust size.

>>2678830
>sideboob showing
I didn't know I needed this, but I definitely do now.
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>>2679080
It's such a simple yet alluring look, having a large patch of her breast exposed like that.
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>>2679080
Erika has a similar issue.
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>>2679093
Of course she would have the same issue as her master! She can't let her suffer by herself.

Erika still has different sizes compared to her, though, as she can't wear Bern's swimsuit in pic related. (I love how much yuri Hinase Momoyama managed to insert in her comics. Not sure if these small comical parts have been translated)
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>>2679119
They have been in Yen Press' release. Also, Bern's old swimsuit = Rika's?
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>>2679119
When it comes to an "official" bust size for Erika and Bern, I prefer Kei Natsumi's depiction from the Episode 8 manga. Erika being around a B or C-cup, while Bern being a D-cup.
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>>2678830
Thoses lines under the eyes make Eva actually look her age.
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>>2679412
Yeah, I've seen several people complain about them, so I made an edit to take care of it.
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>>2679421
Wasn't complaining actually. It gives her a mature woman charm.
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>>2679479
Fair enough. Eva's such an amazing milf, mature and seductive as hell.
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"Hai, Natsuhi-neesan. Service"
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>>2679141
I agree. But I must say I can appreciate any depiction of their breasts as long as a cute girl gets to suck on them.
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>>2679786
That's the most important part after all~!
But who gets to suck who though? Lambda and Erika would definitely fight over who gets Bern.
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>>2679816
I'm depressed for the absolute lack of a Lambda x Bern x Erika threesome. This fanbase has failed me.
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>>2679830
When there's not enough good lewds, the only option is to make your own. I once did an RP of them together on the beach.
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>>2679835
Oh, trust me. I already do. When you're only into yuri, you get desperate enough to produce your ideal content yourself. I think everyone on this board can relate.
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>>2679851
Personally I don't like yuri exclusively. But I can see it being very difficult for those who do. I'm always willing to help my fellow pervy anons though.
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>>2679925
I remember there being a doujin of this, but it was probably futa.
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>>2679934
Milk tea party is the closest thing we have to a good Bern x Lambda x Erika doujinshi.
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>>2680450
So close, and yet so far.

Eclipse of Romantic is also the only Bern x Erika doujinshi that I know of. It's pretty nice at first, but it turns into hetshit quite fast. I just saved the yuri pages and deleted/cropped everything else.
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>>2680468
I like hetero well enough, but I could have done without the goats.
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>>2680486
The goats are... a plague in H doujin. Well, even if the male insert had been Battler, I would still have been pissed. Maybe even more. The one time Ryukishi gave us some girls who are clearly into each other, people only draw them getting dicked. Classic.
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>>2680658
The goats are basically the "faceless ugly dude" trope mixed with bestiality. Battler would be infinitely better. At least he's human. Pure yuri is rare to begin with. Usually the closest you get is futa.

>Erika perving out on Bern while neglecting the perfectly good girlfriend right beside her.

So sad.
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>>2680696
>At least he's human
But he's Battler. I don't want him anywhere near Bern's team, especially when he already has a bunch of other girls adoring him. I get that people self-insert through him, but it's time to leave the lesbian team alone.

>Pure yuri is rare to begin with
Yeah, this is /u/. We suffer over this exact issue every day.

100% agree about DlaEri. I think it's a very cute couple... if only Erika could get over her unreachable, sadistic master. Then again I find her poor attempts at impressing Bern hilarious, so I'm fine with Dlanor getting friendzoned (for now).
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>>2680732
Erika's always been more bi than lesbian, but I get what you mean regardless. Completely penis-free porn is always going to be rare.

In my opinion, Bern x Lambda is the best yuri couple for hardcore lewd stuff, while Erika x Dlanor is the best one for cute stuff.
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>>2679816
>But who gets to suck who though? Lambda and Erika would definitely fight over who gets Bern.
Bern has 2 breasts, no need to fight
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>>2680828
Everyone wins in this scenario! Good End.
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>>2680841
Do you really think either girl would be willing to share? They'd try and wrestle each other out of the way while squishing Bern's boobs together and attempting to suck both nipples at once. Though maybe they'd begrudgingly agree to a truce after Bern threatens to not let either suck should they keep fighting.
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Did you guys catch the previous seacats thread on /jp/? There was some nice yuri discussion towards the end, involving a sleepover with all the witches.
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>>2680450
I remember this from way back. I think it was one of the first doujin that made ask "Why wasn't this just yuri?" It was so frustrating.
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>>2680984
Because apparently doujin artists don't know how to handle sex without penises.
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>>2680916
Was that a recent thread? I avoid /jp/ because they're known to be notoriously anti-yuri, but I remember Umineko threads from way back being interesting.
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>>2680989
Naturally, almost all of them are males and virgins, so their knowledge of sex is limited to what they hold in hand all day long.
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>>2680994
It was just a few days ago. you can read the archive here.
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S19556321#p19593940
>>2680999
Harsh.
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>>2680999
I laughed.

>>2681005
This was way better than I expected! I loved Erika and Lambda making out cause they both thought the other was Bern. Every idea was very funny, actually.
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>>2681429
I'm glad you liked it. That anon had a lot of good ideas. It was really fun talking with him. I'd love to continue that discussion sometime.
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>>2681343
>Battler's face
My sides
>>2676823
>Still hope the new character is a girl, though.
Knowing R07, the new WTC will have both male and female MCs. Nor Higurashi, nor Umineko has a definitive MC, since the point of view often changes.
I'd say the MCs of Higurashi are Keiichi, Rena, Akasaka, Shion, Rika, and maybe Natsumi, Chisato, Tomoe and Satoko if we consider the VNs and Yakusamashi-hen
Umineko's MCs are Battler, Ange, Willard and... help me out, I've never red the VNs
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>>2681825
In my mind, Battler's the protagonist while Beato's the MC.
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Oh shit guys
https://github.com/07th-mod/higurashi-console-arcs
They've started translating Tokihogushi-hen. Rena's past and her relationship with Nagisa will be finally revealed!
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>>2681828
But isn't the protag and the MC the same thing?
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>>2681836
Protag as in he's the one who's perspective we follow
MC as in she's the one the whole story is about.
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>>2681850
MC is usually taken to mean protagonist. Beato/Yasu would be best described as the central or focal character.
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"Friends"
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>>2682130
Way too straight. Rika and Satoko are gayer.
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>>2682280
Rika sure does seem to like touching Satoko's boobs. Not that I blame her.
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>>2682356
I love the so much. They were one of my early OTPs.
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>>2682447
Cute loli yuri. Their dynamic is so great. Rika acting cute while secretly being mature, and Satoko acting brazen when deep down she's really pure. The fact that they live alone together in a small isolated house only makes you wonder more what might be going on between them behind closed doors.
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>>2682451
Rikas is over a hundred years old. Would she have sexual desire, even if her body hasn't gone through puberty yet? She does enjoy wine a lot.
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>>2682541
The taste in wine thing seems more like something she acquired from trying to drown her worries. Though I'm sure she's awakened to some sort of desire after so much time. And who's to say she hasn't experimented a bit in some random loops?
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Rika helping Satoko awaken to her sexuality.
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>>2682541
I first tried wine when I was 4-5 years old and drank spitzer (50% wine, 50% sparkling mineral water) every day until I turned 12. I only drank it for the taste and never got drunk. Then I got tired of it. I prefer beer/spirits now, though I still drink dry wine now and then. You can really get hooked on the taste.
Anyway, in Tsumihoroboshi-hen Rika mentions that she prefers her wine mixed with water (1/3 wine, 2/3 water I think). This is basically a really shitty spitzer.
Also, in Saikoroshi-hen, it was shown that the wine Rika drinks is Bernkasteler Badstube, which is a riesling wine (which means it's white), but the manga inaccurately portrays it as red.
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Imagine the club activities before Keiichi moved to Hinamizawa. With no boys around, the girls could be much more daring with their punishments. Like for cosplay punishments; instead of cute outfits like a maid or nurse uniform, they'd have to wear stuff like micro bikinis or elaborate lingerie. Stuff that'd make Angel Mort's uniform look prudish by comparison.

>>2682451
Is this official art? I can't tell if their boobs got bigger or if it's just because they're pressed against the glass. Either way, I approve.
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>>2682666
A club orgy sounds nice.
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>>2682688
It sure does. Just imagining the ways each girls would interact with the others.
I wonder. Would anyone here be interested in brainstorming a sleepover scenario in a similar vein as >>2680916 sometime?
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I bet Erika is enjoying this far more than Bern
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>>2682797
Personally, I think Erika would be pretty skilled with her mouth. But with Bern as her partner she'd be way to focused on satisfying her own hunger rather than making it feel good, so you're probably right.
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>Imagine the club activities before Keiichi moved to Hinamizawa
I think it was mostly doom and gloom, since Satoshi went missing. Rika even says that it took her a year heal her.
I wonder what kind of "love" she used
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>>2682831
I'm sure Erika would do her best, she'd want Bern to feel as much pleasure as possible. If she was a poor lover, Bern would never let her do it again, right? Also, she seems like the type that gets off to seeing her partner's reactions.
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>>2683030
She wouldn't call herself an 'intellectual rapist' if she didn't know the ins and outs of cunnilingus. Not to mention if she disappoints her master the consequences aren't going to pretty; there's no doubt she'll do a fine job on her end. The real question is how enjoyable is it for Bern. Is Erika a suitable replacement for her lover, Lambda?
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>>2683081
I hope she is, for Erika's sake.

Then again I don't think Bern would settle for her in any case, she'd keep banging both of them to spice things up. And because she's Trollkastel, I'm sure she'd enjoy seeing them fight over her and knowing they're both wrapped around her finger.
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>Is Erika a suitable replacement for her lover, Lambda?
Of course not. Erika is merely a side toy for fucking. It's only with Lambda that Bern can indulge in all the /d/ shit they love.
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>the /d/ shit
Stop right there.
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>>2683081
>the ins and outs of cunnilingus.
Not sure if intentional, but I chuckled.

What if Bern sets a goal for Erika? Like maybe she'd promise to give Erika cunnilingus if Erika can make her orgasm. I'm sure the thought of being pleasured by her beloved master would be more than enough motivation for Erika.

However, if Erika can't make her climax, then Bern will force her to watch as Lambda receives the cunnilingus prize in her place.
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>>2683156
It's canon that they mutilate each other for pleasure.
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>>2683166
I'm so glad to see someone use this pic, Bern eating flowers out in an official illustration has always been incredibly hilarious (and lewd).

>However, if Erika can't make her climax, then Bern will force her to watch as Lambda receives the cunnilingus prize in her place.
Now this is a real punishment. I love it.

>>2683173
I know. But they would totally laugh at /d/. Their fetishes are too weird even for them. Except the hardcore BDSM, mutilations, and such, that's totally their thing. Actually, I'm surprised Bern hasn't cut one of Erika's limbs off yet.
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>>2683191
That image has just been asking for a shop.

Am I a bad person for wanting to see Erika lose now? Just imagine the twintailed detective's teary wail as Bern tells her that time's up, pulling her pussy away from the girl's eager tongue.

"Looks like you couldn't manage it after all. What an incompetent piece."
"P-Please, my master! Just give me a bit more time! I know I can make it work, so please!"
"Silence scum. You failed, so accept your punishment gracefully."

With a snap of Bern's finger's Erika would find herself bound by an invisible force. Unable to move a muscle, all she could do was watch helplessly as her master knelt down on the floor. Then out of the corner of her eye, a short figure clad in bright pink came to stand before Bernkastel.

"Is it my turn then? Hey, is it finally time~?"

Lambdadelta lifted up her large, frilly skirt, exposing a pair of brightly decorated bow panties. Bern wasted no time as she leaned forward, taking the bow in her teeth and dragging the silken garment down the other girl's plump thighs. Erika groaned as she watched the witch of certainty's bare snatch come into view, the pristine slit already glistening with moisture. Leaning in towards the dripping wet crotch, Bern glanced back at Erika out of the corner of her eye, her face twisting into a cruel smile.

"Just remember, this could have been you."

Then the witch of miracles stuck out her tongue and gave Lambda's vagina a slow, heavy lick.
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>>2683205
This was incredibly painful to read, and yet beautiful. I shiver in front of your sadism, onee-san. You truly get Bernkastel.
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>>2683215
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I always enjoy writing lewds, and have gotten used to playing S characters over time.
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"Ne, Natsuhi-san~ You should no better than to go without a bra at your age. At this rate, these beautiful breasts of yours are going to get all saggy. As a member of the Ushiromiya house, even if in name alone, you need to keep up proper appearances."
*prod*
*squish*
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>>2683205
Don't forget that these are cruel witches here too. I bet they'll be especially dramatic in front of Erika. Lambda will be moaning in ecstasy, describing in detail the pleasure that she feels as Bern's tongue caresses her. She'll be glancing at Bern telling her how amazing it feels and then giggling while she gives Erika a smug look. Bern will probably be the liveliest she's been in years pleasuring Lambda, making sure Erika feels nothing but regret, disappointment and anger. They would take their time reveling in the pleasure, making Erika suffer as she watches them for what seems like a thousand years.
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>>2683665
Oh definitely. They'd make a big show out of the whole thing. Bern would talk about how sweet Lambda's pussy tastes, swirling her tongue around her clit before suckling on it. When it's finally time for Lambda to climax she'd wrap her legs around Bern's head, locking her feet behind her neck in a vain attempt to pull her deeper.
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>>2683673
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>>2683733
This is why you should go for Dlanor, instead of the person who clearly loves someone else.
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>>2683737
Why doing that when you can just friendzone Dlanor and suffer forever? Erika isn't a masochist for nothing.
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>>2684040
I read the VN version of Hinamizawa Bus Stop a couple of years ago, but somehow I forgot what happens in it
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Never read it personally, but the artist for the Switch version did a nice job.
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>>2683733
poor Erika, I'm sure Bern will need you again soon, a mobile chair is very useful
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>>2684296
Even disregarding her masochistic tendencies, Erika's enough of a deviant that she'd likely get off to feeling her master's buttocks squish against her back as she sits on her.
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>>2684305
I bet that's the only reason why Bern doesn't do this more often, she's probably disgusted by her piece being aroused like that. It's less of a punishment and more of a reward for Erika.
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>>2684315
Erika's perversion truly knows no limit. I wonder if she masturbates to Bern?
And more importantly, I wonder if Bern would know if she did.
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Twincest is nice.
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How's this pairing?
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>>2684349
Cute, I guess, but I can't see it happening unless Keichi goes gay for Satoshi.
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>>2684336
Agreed. Also big-boobed symmetrical docking is a miracle of the universe.
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>>2684315
I'm pretty sure this is canon. Pic related from Golden Fantasia. Bern doesn't seem disgusted, though, more like... amused by how perverted her stupid piece is.

>>2684323
What kind of question is this. What else is she supposed to masturbate to? I imagine her fantasizing about all the times Bern has stepped on her, kicked her, used her as a chair, and such. Maybe she'd imagine Bern sitting on her face, too.
There's no way Bernkastel doesn't know. She probably thinks she's hopeless at this point.
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>>2684450
My comrade. You know what's up. Especially when it's with twins. All four perfectly identical breasts pressing against each other like that, creating a warm heaven in the center.
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>>2684451
Maybe Bern could summon Erika while she's just about to climax, calling forth the twintailed girl at the moment where turning back is no longer an option.
"M-My master!?!?"
Erika would give a shrill cry, her fingers still pumping in and out of her vagina of their own accord as she orgasms heavily. Bern would just stare down at her with a disgusted expression, before walking over and giving the other girl a sharp kick. Still recovering from the afterglow, Erika would hastily try to explain herself.
"U-Um, this isn't what it looks like! I was just-!"
But Bern wouldn't hear any of her explanations, cutting her off mid-sentence with a scornful glare.
"-I already know what it is. You're always masturbating like this when you think I'm not aware. Now hurry up and get dressed, I've got work for you."
Giving her one more kick for good measure, the witch of miracles spun around and walked away, leaving her dazed subordinate to stare dumbfounded at her back.
"Oh, and one more thing."
Bern called out over her shoulder to Erika.
"The next time one of my underwear goes missing, I'm putting you in a logic error."
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>>2684450
>>2684471
I just wish there was a good yuri equivalent for paizuri; one that doesn't rely on futa.
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>>2684491
>"The next time one of my underwear goes missing, I'm putting you in a logic error."
Oh boy. Erika is fucked.

This reminded me of pic related where, according to her thoughts, she's wearing Bern's panties. I wonder if Erika would often try to steal her underwear... I'm laughing at the idea of Bern walking in on her sniffing her panties and masturbating furiously.
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>>2684570
I imagine that'd be a rather frequent occurrence. Bern would probably just turn around and leave without saying anything, making a mental note to punish Erika thoroughly later... And also to burn that underwear.

Now what if she walked in on Lambda and Erika fighting over a pair of her panties?
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>>2684443
Don't give up hope. There's plenty of chances for them to hook up, with or without Keiichi. I'm more concerned with how they'd act as a couple than how they'd get together.
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>>2684593
Is Lambda as perverted as Erika? Probably. She's just better at hiding it.
Maybe she'd make them fight even more.
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>>2684602
>That pic
Erika: Nopan...

Maybe Bern would see it as an opportunity to watch them struggle, saying that the winner can keep the panties.
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>>2684540
Closest thing would be stimulating the clit with the nipples, but it would be really awkward. An artist called Lezmoe commonly draws girls literally fucking other girls' pussies with their breasts and nipples, which is of course only possible within hentai. Then there's pic related, which doesn't really do anything, it just looks really nice.
But there's no need for yuri to imitate het. Lesbians can do things like mutual nursing and rubbing their breasts together, something only they can do.
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>>2684596
Mion would be Rena' prince and protector (and possibly viceversa as well).
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>>2685061
>Mion acts the role of the tomboy when they're out in public together
>Rena is the crazy dom when they're in bed

Cute couple!
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>>2684596
There is a scene in a drama CD in which Mion and Rena have sex (I'm not sure what is the context, but yeah). In it, apparently Mion was dating K1, but she says she was just playing with him and she actually has always loved Rena. It's in Sachisagashi-hen, there used to be a link for it on niconico, not sure if it's still there
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>>2684593
The ending of that story made me giggle

>arrow makes the person fall in obsessive love with the one who hits them with it
>erika tries to steal it from lambda to use it on bern
>lambda accidentally hits erika with it as they're fighting

I bet Bern is relieved at least
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>>2684491
Erika probably gets off on any kind of punishment as long as its coming from her master
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>>2685300
Of course. Even pain and humiliations become pleasurable if they're inflicted by her beloved Bern. I don't think Erika would enjoy any kind of punishment coming from anyone else... it has to be Bern, or it would be just unpleasant.

I'm incredibly glad we have official art of Bern keeping her on a leash, by the way. I don't know what they were thinking when they made fanservice artworks for the PS3 port preorder bonuses, but I fully approve.

>>2685150
...really? I don't remember a drama cd like that, maybe it's fanmade. I highly doubt they would let ANY character have sex in an official Higurashi story, unless it's one of the adults. I guess I will have to look it up. I'm not fluent in Japanese, but I understand it a little.
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>>2684471
That sounds really nice.
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>>2685331
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11031091

Mine hasn't loaded yet, but I think the scene was around 00:39 or 00:41
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>>2685439
>>2685448
>>2685463
>>2685464
>>2685466
Damn, these are all nice.
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>>2685466
lewd sisters!
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>>2685150
>>2685476
Wow, I was wrong! There's actually some yuri in an official drama cd. I'm positively shocked. Although I don't know how seriously you can take it, it's still something.
While I was looking for more info, I found a translation here: https://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=2889336#post2889336
From what I personally understand, I can confirm the translation is correct. I guess Mion x Rena has now even more reasons to exist.
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>>2685061
>>2685148
This is pretty much how I see their relationship going. It'd be a pretty interesting dynamic, flip-flopping roles depending on the situation.
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>>2685477
Gaap deserves more yuri.
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>>2685797
>that filename
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>>2686036
You'd think the busty Onee-san type like her would be more popular among yuri artists.
>>2686037
Okay, so maybe not the whole doujinshi, but that part in particular is pretty /u/.
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Looks like it might be punishment time already!
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>>2686088
I'm sure Erika is looking forward to it.
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>>2686214
It's hard to think up genuine punishments for such a depraved masochist, since most conventional methods only serve to bring them pleasure.
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>>2686215
I like to imagine Bern slowly realizing no matter what kind of corporal punishment or humiliation she inflicts on her, it's always a reward for Erika. She truly has to get creative. Being her master is more difficult than you'd expect.
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>>2686219
One of the few ways I could see consistently working is stuff like >>2683205
Seeing Bern get intimate with others would cut deep.
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>>2686225
ignoring her would most likely be the most painful punishment.
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>>2686231
True enough. Or maybe if she left the punishment to someone else entirely.

What about the reverse? What sort of rewards might Bern give Erika during her rare good moods?
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>>2686225
Definitely true. That would be absolutely the most cruel punishment for her.

>>2686236
I believe Erika would enjoy pretty much any reward from her dear master. But what would Bern be willing to give her...?
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>>2686236
>Erika has Bern tied up

That's kinda hot
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>>2686240
Haha, love that picture. Bern's face is priceless.
As for rewards... A kiss seems too romantic, while anything involving pussy play would require a particularly significant victory. Maybe she'd finger Erika if she's good. But the first thing that comes to my mind is breast stuff. Letting Erika touch her chest would no doubt yield excellent results, without costing Bern too much in the end.

>>2686241
Some nice role reversal.
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>>2686241
Seeing Bern tied up would give Erika the weirdest boner.

>>2686243
I agree with you, Bern would never allow anything romantic to happen. And letting her touch/eat her pussy? That's waaaay too generous. Erika would need to achieve a truly flawless victory to earn such a sweet reward. I like the idea of letting her grope her chest, it's a pleasurable act for both of them and Bern would have to do nothing at all.

If she decided to get Erika off as reward, I can see her doing it in some unconventional way like stepping on her pussy. It would satisfy her sexual and masochistic needs, and Bern would still have total power over her (which is always nice).
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>>2686275
What if Erika and Bern were playing a game of chess, and for each piece captured Bern would give Erika a breast related reward? For example...
(Assuming Bern starts out wearing her usual dress + bra + pasties)
Capture a pawn: touch one breast of her choice for 1 minute.
Capture a knight: remove one breast from blouse.
Capture a bishop: remove one breast from bra.
Capture a rook: remove pasty from one breast.
Capture the queen: motorboat breasts
Capture the king: suck breasts.
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>>2686343
This is truly lovely. But does Erika have any chance to beat Bern at chess, though?
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>>2686408
Probably not, but you never know. Miracles can happen. The more you look into it, there's actually quite a bit of depth to this setup. For example, if she capture all the pawns early, she may get to play with Bern's boobs a bunch, but she'd miss out on getting to touch them more directly. But if she only targets bigger pieces, while she may succeed in disrobing Bern, but she may not ever get to touch what she worked do hard to unveil. Same idea goes for the motorboating too. Bern Erika might have a chance to capture Bern's queen early on,only to pass it up because she want's to motorboat them bare, not clothed.
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>>2686416
I was just wondering about this. It sounds like the kind of game that would excite Erika in more than one way, actually! A self-proclaimed genius like her would have a lot of fun trying to come up with the best strategy... unless she gets too distracted by the simple thought of being allowed to touch Bern's boobs and loses in a heartbeat.
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>>2686425
I think her intellectual curiosity would do a good job of reigning in her lust. Getting to play a game like chess against her master is already an enjoyable experience on it's own. She'd try and plan out everything in order to get the ideal experience with her master's bust. Of course, one of the best parts would be Bern's dialogue throughout the whole thing.

"How conceited of you Erika. Do you really think you have the leeway to be worrying about the order in which you take pieces? I'll make you regret your hubris."
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>>2686058
>You'd think the busty Onee-san type like her would be more popular among yuri artists.
Specially paired up with her fellow onee-san Virgilia.
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>>2686807
Well, the older characters tend to get the shaft when it comes to that sort of thing. Just look at the amount of fanart for Jessica and Shannon vs that of the aunts, or Virgilia and Featherine vs the younger looking witches.
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>>2686816
Sad how little Featherine yuri there is. Someone as immensely powerful as her should get all the Witches.
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>>2687075
Btw, Bernkastel is the only lesbian I know of who is regularly mentioned in power level arguments.
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>>2686663
Ahh, I need an entire fanfic about this scenario now. It sounds great and very in-character. I'd love to see Erika planning a ridiculously convoluted strategy to win in the most gratifying way possible as Bern keeps provoking her.

>>2687075
I need AuAurora yuri so badly. I want to see her doing whatever she wants to Bern and/or Ange. Possibly both.
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>>2687237
I'd be more than happy to explore this scenario more in-depth if you'd like.
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>>2687242
Oh, please do it, onee-san!
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>>2687260
I'll think of some ideas for it then.
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>>2687237
>I want to see her doing whatever she wants to Bern and/or Ange. Possibly both.
She would pet their pussies.
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>>2687300
And let them play with her AuAus.
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>>2687307
Lucky them.
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>>2687270
I love you so much, onee-san.

>>2687300
I mean, Aurora is clearly into pussies. Pic related.
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>>2687260
“You called for me, my master?”
Erika spoke nervously within the dimly lit bedroom, having been summoned there following a long day of logic battling and crushing illusions. The one who had summoned her was none other than her master, the great witch of miracles, lady Bernkastel. Erika trembled anxiously. It wasn’t often that her master wanted to speak with her in private like this, and not even a great detective such as herself could fathom what sort of intentions her master had for her today. The woman in question could be seen lazing on the large canopy bed in the corner of the room, her cat tail swaying languidly as she lay sprawled on her stomach. Upon hearing her subordinate’s call, the figure suddenly vanished into thin air, appearing in front of the other girl as if she’d been there the whole time.
“Ah, there you are Erika.”
“Yes! How may I be of service today?”
Bern walked slowly up to Erika. Stretching out her hand, she gently ran her fingers up the twintailed girl’s throat, tickling the underside of her chin like she was a small kitten. Erika trembled at her master’s touch, the unexpected show of affection exciting her, yet also making her fearful of some kind of trap. Picking up on her piece’s wariness, Bern gave a low chuckle.
“There’s no need to be so tense. I called you here to reward you for your successful victory against Battler earlier today.”
Erika instantly perked up at that. A reward? From her master!? This was certainly unexpected. The hard-to-please witch was not one to easily hand out favors. Erika couldn’t help but get excited wondering what she had in store for her.
“A-A reward?! You’re too kind!”
“Perhaps. I don’t know what compelled me to give you something so suddenly. It must be because of how boring things have gotten around here lately. Anyway. Your reward is…”
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Erika’s heart hammered in her chest as she listened with baited breath. Bern seemed to enjoy keeping her in suspense, pausing much longer than was necessary. Rather than announce it verbally, she decided to let her body speak for itself. Sliding both hands up the front of her dark dress, Bern firmly clasped the twin globes protruding from her chest, hoisting them up for Erika to see.
“…these.”
It took Erika’s brain a few seconds to process what had just been said, the finely tuned logic machine having suffered a momentary short circuit. ‘these’? As in, her breasts!?!? Erika’s heart leapt for joy. She had never in her wildest dreams imagined being given something so fantastic.
“S-S-Such a splendid reward!! Th-Thank you very much, my mas-!”
“-However.”
Bern’s cool words cut Erika off mid-sentence, making her freeze on the spot. Of course, there had to be a catch.
“It’d be boring to just give you your reward that easily. That’s why I decided to have you entertain me a little as you work for it.”
With a flick of her tail, Bernkastel indicated a small table set up beside the bed. On it sat a familiar looking chess board lined with pieces, the white and black facing off at their starting positions as if eagerly awaiting battle.
“I challenge you to a game Erika. Your performance against me will determine the level of your reward.”
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>>2687637
Your writing is very nice!
This thread has officially become the best Umineko thread I've seen in ages.
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>>2688034
>>2688034
Thank you very much. I’m glad you’re enjoying it. Feedback is always appreciated. I’ll weite some more in a bit, so I hop you’ll look forward to it.
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>>2688045
Of course. I can't wait to see more!
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>>2687632
>>2687637
cute, im eagerly waiting for you to continue
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Who's going to come out on top?
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>>2688311
I'm glad you both enjoy, and sorry for the wait.

Erika gulped. Her intellectual curiosity would’ve normally had her jumping at the opportunity to serve as her master’s chess partner. But now, with such a fabulous prize hanging in the balance, the genius detective found herself somewhat wary of charging right in without first getting some further explanation.
“O-Of course! I would love to play against my master! But, um, ‘the level’…? Would you mind elaborating on that?"
Bern returned Erika’s cautious inquiry with a blank stare. It was painfully obvious to the great witch what sort of perverse fantasies were brewing behind that courteous facade. Such things had long since stopped bothering her, and now served as yet another source of amusement with which she could tease her piece. With her hands still glued to the undersides of her breasts, she began to explain in a monotonous tone.
“For each of my pawns that you manage to capture, I shall allow you to fondle one of my breasts for a single minute. You may use only your hands, and attempting to enter my clothes is strictly forbidden. Other than that, you are free to do as you wish within the allotted time.”
Erika’s eyes widened in shock. While there were some strict limitations in place, it was nevertheless an extremely exorbitant reward for capturing a single pawn. All in all, there was potential for 8 minutes of groping, 4 per breast. Erika wondered at what sort of prizes the more valuable pieces could yield, listening eagerly as her master continued her explanation.
“As for the knights, bishops, and rooks; each of them corresponds to a layer of clothing I’m currently wearing over my chest. Capturing one of them will result in the removal of said layer for the remainder of the game. Also, since they come in pairs, each individual piece will correspond to a single breast’s clothing, depending on which side of the board they start on.”
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>>2688608
Also for this scenario, I've decided to use >>2679141 as reference for sizes. Although I might nudge Bern up to a DD-cup to make them even more pronounced, if that's alright.

Erika’s mind was racing as the new rules were laid out. How many layers was her master currently wearing? She couldn’t imagine there being more than 3. And if that was the case, then did that mean there was a possibility to get her master completely topless!? Such a marvelous thing-! And if you factored in the pawn’s reward on top of that, then she’d be able to touch her master’s bare breasts! Erika could feel her own nipples tingling with excitement within her bra at the mere thought. Already she had begun formulating strategies in her head, her little grey cells working overtime to come up with the best pattern of attack. Ignoring her intense deliberations, Bern continued without pause.
“Then there’s the queen. Capturing that will yield a fittingly special prize. Do so, and you will be given permission to nuzzle my chest with your face for 10, no, make that 15 minutes.”
Erika gulped heavily, her mouth watering in anticipation.
“A-And if I capture your king?”
Bern’s eyes narrowed slightly at Erika’s query.
“How presumptuous. You act as if your victory has already been assured. Do you consider me such an easy opponent?”
Snapping out of her lustful daze, Erika rapidly shook her head in alarm. It seemed she gotten ahead of herself in her eagerness and had earned her master’s annoyance.
“N-No, No! That’s not it at all! Of course, I don’t honestly expect to be able to win against the great witch of miracles herself! I was just curious as to what would happen in such a hypothetical situation!”
Seeing her piece flounder about brought Bern mild amusement.
“Well, it’s not like it matters either way. If by some miracle you manage to defeat me and claim my king as your own, then as a reward I’ll allow you to suckle my breasts for an entire hour.”
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>>2688627
>suckle my breasts
>for an entire hour
You'd better get your grey cells working, Erika.
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>>2688762
It’d be a hard earned reward, but one more than worth the effort. I was also playing around with the idea of an even more intense reward.
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>>2688797
Something like, “Hmph, so be it. I’ll indulge you a little. If you capture all my pieces without losing more than half of your own, then I’ll give you an unprecedented reward. In such a situation, I will allow you to join me in bed tonight. All limits will be removed, and you will be free to do whatever you wish with my chest for the remainder of the night.”

Or something like that. Honestly I'm not sure where to go from here though. I have a few ideas as to how the story could play out, but I'm not sure how much detail I should go into for the actual chess itself. I'll be honest, I'm not really good at chess, so i doubt I could make a good game.
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>>2689142
You're tempting us, anon.
I suggest not to go in-depth unless there's someone here who feels confident enough to write the entire game.




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