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Which series did it the best?
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That's a pretty rare category. Usually we know beforehand whether a series is going to have yuri, otherwise it stays subtext at most (which I like, but isn't what the image is going for, I think).

I'm going to go with Psycho Pass.
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Watamote
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>>2724991
Well, The Legend of Korra was a surprise. Especially since the predecessor stuck with the first love interest.
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tlok (Korra) is a surprise Yuri show.
Because korraxasami was only a thing after the producers understood that they had only one more season to work with.
Hate me as much as you want but before the last season korra and asami were straight friends.
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lain
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>>2724991
Hina Logi.
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>>2724991
I don't know which one did it best but here's a list of stuff I went in without expecting yuri and got a pleasant surprise:
>Legend of Korra
>Adventure Time
>PsychoPass
>hack//sign

On the subtext side:
>Re:Creators
>Princess Principal
>Madoka
>Frozen

Stuff I went in expecting subtext yet got full text:
>Valkyrie Drive Mermaid
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>>2725052
the last two seasons were worked on congruently though, they were ordered together unlike the first two which each might have been the last.
I'd agree if you amended your statement to "only two more seasons to work with". Season 3 had buildup that would have less meaning romance wise if it was the last season but since there was closure of a sort in season 4 it's no longer worth discounting it.
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>>2725047
Ayeee
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>>2725052
There's plenty of clues in the third season they were going that way. That's why they had Asami and Mako break up.
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>>2724991
.hack//sign

This show didn't introduce me to yuri, but it definitely made me "wake up" to it.
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Definitely did not expect nononbi to be gay.
I thought it would just be something like higurashi without timelines and murder but i got some wonderful age gap yuri.
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>>2724991
Hidan aria AA and Ange vierge
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>>2725839
RengexKaede age gap is cool and all, but KaedexKazuho with Renge as their little daughter is also cute.
Can't forget to mention Hotaru's crush on Komari. Most people present it as rape, but I think Komari would reciprocate if confessed to.
With a little goggles I can also see a bit of HikagexKonomi and KonomixNatsu.
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>>2725162
This
I found it funny that the characters act like normal people and the boy was just another character with his own problems.
Girl Friend Beta: It was also strange, especially considering its origin, it was variable but I did not expect a scene taken from Galge with Kokomi and her friend helping her to be together the person she likes, this Anime had to focus on a smaller group of people and everything could be better .

>>2725833
It also helps to show how stupid the hetfags can be.
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>>2724991
Horizon's lesbo witches were decent.
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>>2725051
>>2725052
Korrasami was built up for the last two seasons. Anyone who says it was only a S4 thing is utterly blind.
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>>2725956
Is hidan no aria without the AA yuri too?
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>>2726148
to be fair Het couples can be formed under worse excuses and their fans will not complain about anything.
At least they had the decency to show on screen (very little) and not resort to that tendency of "those characters are gay for reasons"
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>>2726167
nah, it is a generic harem and really silly when it pretends to be serious and the way in which the characters behave is almost completely different, as if they were parallel universes.
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>>2725047
Is watamote the only manga where the yuri shipas are treated seriously while the het ships are nothing but a joke that perpetually goes absolutely nowhere?
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>>2726171
Probably.
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>>2726178
I need more of that. Usually it's the other way around.
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>>2726171
There really aren't any significant het ships, though. I mean, what? TomokoxOtaku? TomokixYoshida, TomokixKomisomething, and TomokixDicky-chan?

Really, Tomoki is the only significant male character I can readily remember, and he's almost never seen interacting with any of the main cast besides Tomoko, and only rarely with side characters who aren't generally even significant ships with Tomoko, anyway. I mean, as far as I'm concerned it's still possible for any of the main characters to turn out to be straight (or at least bi in Ucchi's case), but there really aren't any guys for them to be paired with.
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>>2726186
>There really aren't any significant het ships, though.
Komi has been chasing Tomoki for years without a fruit. There was one point in the manga where Tomoki finally became slightly interested in Komi, but then the author dumped all the progression and made Tomoki distance himself from Komi even further.

>it's still possible for any of the main characters to turn out to be straight
At this point the possibilities are really low.
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>>2726192
>komi-something and tomoki
Yeah, but that's not really significant, is it? Like I said, they're both side characters.
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>>2726167
It's het, but thankfully its existence can be ignored entirely while watching AA.
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>>2725063
Wait, lain is gay? I haven't finished it
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>>2726654
90's bad end cyberpunk sci-fi surprise yuri

...Could probably be its own genre.
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>>2726654
Lain uses her powers to watch her best friend masturbate (while thinking of a guy).

I wouldn't say that's enough to definitely say she's gay, but it's notable she chose that moment to do so.
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>>2726186
Just to play devil's advocate, the manga doesn't actually have to introduce any guys they'll pair up with if they're straight. The manga could just end with them all graduating without pairing up with each other (which is what I expect to happen) and then have an epilogue in college where some of them have boyfriends. But I hope it doesn't go that route.
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>>2726673
it might end with no girl getting a girl(or boy)friend, but it CERTAINLY won't end with a timeskip and then showing them married to a guy. Whether the authors dislike their yuri fanbase or not, they know doing that would be career suicide. It would only work if it were build up before, like a possible Tomoki x Yoshida or Komi
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>>2726680
Isn't Love Lab and Amanchu still popular in Japan?
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>>2726672
WHAT EPISODE?
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>>2724991
Stray Little Devil.
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>>2725956
Hugely underrated series. I wish people would also remembet Black Rock Shooter or Gennei Taiyou.
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>>2726745
in BRS it seems that people liked the OVA but complains about Anime, although both are Gay, the Anime disapproves some things.
It's funny how in Gennei Taiyou the Moon was in love with Akari from the beginning, his feelings were an important part of the story and in addition to an involuntary third wheel, this Anime really deserves more love.
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>>2726672
I'm pretty sure there was also something towards the end of the show.
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>>2726765
>his feelings
Work on your English please. Not everything is funny.
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>>2726745
Ange Vierge was a snoozefest. I haven't watched Hidan but it sounds like a bore too.

There's nothing too surprising about BRS. It's an all-girl cast so most people going in already expecting some subtext. But I guess you could say it's a surprised text.
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>>2726765
>Gennei Taiyou
oh I remember this show, it have potential, but trying too hard to be edgy

I like the OP though
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>>2726778
I know, I discovered my mistake too late

>>2726815
>but trying too hard to be edgy
It was not bad like other series where not even the characters are worth it, but in the end it is quite optimistic and if you read the letters of the ED, it is even more depressing.
The problem is that he suffered from the "other madoka" on the part of normalfags, even Yuyuyu suffers from that, because it is impossible for several things to have similar themes without being copies, but when there is really a brazen copy, do not complain.
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>>2726820
>other madoke

it's kind of feels like that desu.
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>>2726796
Ange Vierge was the yuri harem we deserved. Aria AA was a fun /uk/ show and a good example of making yuri out of a het series.
BRS wasn't really a surprise due to the OVA. It was very melodramatic but decent, although hugely inferior to the OVA.
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>>2726815
Gennei comes off like it was trusting way too much in getting a second season. There were so many dropped plot points and unexplained things that I felt I was watching a mediocre manga adaptation instead of an original show. They should have focused more on the plot and worldbuilding that in monster of the week shit.
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>>2725051
Korrasami was a luke warm dumpster fire, some tension scenes and only one, ONE, scene where they held hands?
Fuck Nick, Adventure time gave us a onscreen kiss for christ sake yet Korrasami is still seen as the superior /co/ x /u/ couple
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>>2724991
Osanajimi was Onnanoko or whatever that annoying manga with the shitty fairy was called
the Yuri was the only thing keeping me from dropping that shit
had a surprisingly decent ending, asshole friend sorta redeemed himself and everything
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Joou-sama no Eshi was such a surprise that one of the scanlation groups rage quit when they found out.
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>>2726908
Honestly, the level of yuri in the OVA was a pretty pleasant surprise in itself.
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>>2727022
>yet Korrasami is still seen as the superior /co/ x /u/ couple
It came first so there were limits to what it could do. I'd have liked a bit more physicality, but I also enjoy seeing them subtly growing closer in season three.

>luke warm dumpster fire
Mixed metaphors are bad style.
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>>2726915
>They should have focused more on the plot and worldbuilding that in monster of the week shit.
Although in part that is the fault of the format, although technically it was part of the plot.

>Gennei comes off like it was trusting way too much in getting a second season.
That is the real problem and it seems that they really wanted more than they could do, although if it had gone before or a little later, the performance could be better.
In the official page, the story continues with Novelas Web, I do not trust much in the translator to read that, but I like the design of Silvia (I think that's what it's called)
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>>2727103
Thanks, I just marathon'd it and it's an enjoyable read. It's funny such quality yuri (and overall plot) is hidden inside what initially looked like a cheap het harem. Hopefully someone would pick up the remaining 3 chapters to complete the series.
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>>2726688
Episode 8, around the 15 min mark.
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best comes when the author gets surprised by yuri
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>>2726148

It doesn't change the fact that nothing happened in the series that doesn't fall under plausible deniability.

The big thing I remember from S3 is that Korra opened up to Asami instead of anyone else. However, Asami was also the only person Korra could open up to, since every other character was either a fucking idiot or would leap in to help Korra (regardless of Korra's wishes) instead of just listening and letting her figure herself out. All of the other hints of Korra and Asami building their relationship were similarly things that any pair of friends might do. That's why the ending seems to come somewhat out of left field, and even THAT didn't involve a kiss or anything else confirming that they were in a relationship.

If the creators hadn't confirmed that Korra and Asami were a couple, their relationship status would still be under debate, with lots of people saying that their shippers just had their yuri goggles on too tight.
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>>2726148
>Korrasami was built up for the last two seasons. Anyone who says it was only a S4 thing is utterly blind.
Thats because you gave your yuri goggles on, and they are clearly not helping because you are the blind one here.
Every interaction before the last season between korra and asami are that of two heterosexual friends of the same sex.
You think because they teamed up together and asami did korra's hair that one time that they are full on gay for each other?
When you see two best friends hanging out together in real life who are also both female, you think that automaticly means they are eating each other out whenever they are alone?

And why do you want it so hard anyway? why cant you settle with the fact that only after korra got sick it turned in to something more then a friendship between the 3th and the 4th season?
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>>2728019
You can't accuse someone of seeing subtext that isn't there when the fucking writers talked about purposefully putting in that subtext.
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>>2728026
>You can't accuse someone of seeing subtext that isn't there when the fucking writers talked about purposefully putting in that subtext.
That hax of a writer bryke only started talking about it after it was revealed in the last season that they were gay.
Many of us still feel that they pulled it out of their ass when they started writing the last season to go out with a bang, but in ended up being cheap instead.
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>>2727976
Why are male mangakas more reluctant to adding yuri into their works than the female ones? Aren't guys supposed to like cute lesbians or something.
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>>2728029
>That hax of a writer bryke only started talking about it after it was revealed in the last season that they were gay.
So they should have spoiled the ending of their show in an interview two years before it happened. That sure makes sense.
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>>2728035
not in Japan apparently
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>>2727994
>>2728019
So apparently you both are forgetting one of the biggest red flag in S3 you never watched AtLA and would thus have a bit harder of a time recognizing it,, or are too literally challenged to recognize it for what it is.

The red flag that got me thinking "wait are they actually really teasing the ship?" was the scene where Asami guards Korra's body at Zaofu while she's in the spirit world. This is a action shared only with Aang and Katara in the previous series and P'li and Zaheer.
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>>2728050
Not really, yuri is still like 80% dominated by female mangakas even though approximately half of the readers are male. Also it's quite rarer to see yuri that goes beyond subtext and subtle debatable hints from male mangakas than females.
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>>2728035
The "most males have lesbian fetish" stereotype only pertain to fanservices and porn, especially "lesbian" porn that ultimately result in a guy joining the girls in bed. The number of guys that actually like lesbian ROMANCE is abysmal, much smaller than the number of girls that like it.

That's also why males are the major buyers of most CGDCT - most of them don't care about the shallow romance, they see girls being cute with each other and that's enough. Meanwhile girls prefer stuff that actually has deep emotional substance behind a relationship, which is why they're the majority in fanbase of seemingly-erratic title pattern from Sakura Trick (canon CGDCT) to Princess Principal (subtext action) to Valkyrie Drive (canon action with borderline porn). Once you realize the reason, it's not erratic at all.
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>>2728019
What are lesbian girlfriends other than best friends who kiss? If you saw them as heterosexual friends then that's you assuming they were straight. If they are gay then doing all that "friend" shit takes on a whole new meaning.
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>>2728085
I'm not familiar with Princess Principal, but Sakura Trick and Valkyrie Drive both seem way more likely to have primarily male fanbases than female ones.
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>>2725052
They are whatever the creators say they are, and were. Perks of being creators, lol
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>>2728029
Creators make the canon. End of story lmao.
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>>2728092
ST yes, but Valkyrie Drive surprisingly doesn't, not even the authors expected that.
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>>2728092
>Valkyrie Drive
>primarily male fanbases than female ones.
and in the end I ended up being more popular with women, mostly lesbians. Do not you know about Periphery Demographic?
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>>2728102
There are some circumstances where what the creator made is so bad and poorly written that it cannot be canon.
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>>2728106
Shut up Twin Perfect, the canon does not work that way, no matter how bad the result is.
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>>2728112
It does though.
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>>2728085
>most CGDCT
>most of them don't care about the shallow romance
>they see girls being cute with each other and that's enough

this is a very superficial judgment, based on only something that you think is true, many of the Yuri relationships in CGDCT are really taken seriously, you can see something like GochiUsa and see most of the material that CocoChino portrays, it does so what could happen inside the canon and the fans know that, it's just the waifufags that deny any Yuri.

Shipping war exists for a reason and is much more prominent in subtext.
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>>2728085
>The "most males have lesbian fetish" stereotype only pertain to fanservices and porn, especially "lesbian" porn that ultimately result in a guy joining the girls in bed
Well i'm a guy and hate that to death.
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>>2727563
Thanks anon, can't believe I've missed it.
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>>2728145
Having a fetish for girl-on-girl action isn't the same as being a yurifag.
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Sasami-san@Ganbanranai
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>>2728215
Apparently they kiss during a play and go on a date later on. Too bad we'll never get to see it animated though.
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>>2728138
Yuri being theoretically possible within the framework of a CGDCT SoL and there being nothing to suggest het does is not actually quite the same thing as yuri actually happening.

I like Gochiusa and all, but unless there's something more explicit than has been scanlated so far, CocoChino isn't even subtext.
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>>2728138
Canon or not is not the issue, it's about the type of portrayal. Most CGDCT have very shallow or light-hearted depiction of relationship between two girls, which could be summarized as what it said on the tin: cute girls doing things together. That's what appeal to male audience, who like stuff from subtexty Gochiusa to canon lesbians Yuru Yuri.

Female audience gravitate more towards titles with deeper or dramatic interpersonal interactions. And again, it can range from subtext like Hibikek or Marimite to canon like Valkyrie Drive or Simoun.
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>>2728215
Wait what, it's yuri?? I watched a couple episodes when it aired but dropped when Sasami-san got blatantly paired with her faceless brother.

Does the yuri have substance? Is it mutual? Good ending?
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>>2728239
The android girl likes Sasami.
The only part Sasami shows any feelings for her brother was when they want to force her father to have a child with her, she asks "at least let onii-chan do it". But her intention is never have children.
She becomes really close to the android girl.
Also, the brother starts to be paired with another female character later.
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>>2728239
In the anime it's shown that the android girl Kagami has a crush on Sasami, Sasami is mostly oblivious as she is fond of Kagami. They do become closer.
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Sengoku Collection. The first episode initially makes it seems like another generic "boy meets isekai genderbend Nobunaga" anime, but then we never see the boy again and instead get a wonderous anthology of character-focused stories, many of which range from very gay to canonically gay, as well as being darn good stories in their own right.
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>>2728244
I have no idea what this series is, but
>the only part Sasami shows any feelings for her brother was when they want to force her father to have a child with her, she asks "at least let onii-chan do it"
wat
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>>2728145
nobody asked
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>>2728291
Gotta keep the bloodline pure shit. But nothing happened in the end and she was against it from the beginning.
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>>2728219
>CocoChino isn't even subtext
Did you miss Chino crushing hard on Cocoa on several episodes of the anime? Even ignoring that, Cocoa's imouto fetish already puts them into strong subtext territory.
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>>2728215
Glad to see someone else remembers. The anime was not that good but I really liked this pairing. S2 never.
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>>2728085
You do realize that I've never criticized the male yuri consumers, right? It's okay for straight men to be attracted by cute girls, I can see them also appreciating the expression of love in yuri and that's what matters to me. They don't only seek cuteness or sexiness but also romantic-sexual love between girls, if they think both of those are of equal importance that's fine already. Yuri Hime, Gazette, individual yuri series like Bloom Into You and such already have a sizeable male audience. I'm sure there are a large number of men on /u/.

It's the male yuri mangaka that I criticized, they seem reluctant to write yuri. They're not aware of it at best and hate it at worst.
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>>2728085
>>2728228
>men are from Mars, women are from Venus
It's not that simple.
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>>2728496
>if you claim there's a trend in gender demographic, you must be saying ALL MEN love one thing while ALL WOMEN love another thing
Kill yourself, strawman.

And the demographic discrepancy is not speculation. It's factual number reports from the manga mangazines, anime studios and anime convention attandance. How much of a newfag are you to not know that CGDCT is a genre that mainly target at males or that Valkyrie Drive have more female fans?
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>>2728470
Yes I did, since I read the manga and didn't watch the anime.
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>>2728595
Well, there's you go. Episode 12 of the first season, in particular, is all about Chino realising she's head over heels for Cocoa.
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>>2728291
iirc sasami is some sort of Goddess or divine being.
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>>2728616
Specifically, she's a vessel for the power of Amaterasu (who is the redhead girl). Because Amaterasu is the highest of all gods, all spirits obey her, making Sasami into a reality warper.
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>>2728631
That's a thirsty fucking Amaterasu.
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>>2728228
Please do not say that all women have better taste, that is why Aikatsu Star was a failure and communities of fangirls who attack other people for presenting an unorthodox couple, also terribly written romance as twilight and 50 shades of gray were made for women.

being simple stories, the CGDCT allow many things to develop, not only within the doujins are the relationships of the characters being treated much darker.

also Eupho is bait, not subtext, please never confuse a romantic possibility, with cheap and blatant fanservice.

>>2728612
not only that, the film also portrays how strong the feelings of Chino towards Cocoa are, it was managed in the same way as a more direct romantic story.

I do not know why to concentrate on the demographics, this in the end is completely useless, Moe, Idol and Ecchi are less sold things and tend to fail more easily and that is what "men" like
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>>2728291
Sasami family stole Amaterasu's power and the power is passed to each generation through parent to children. Sasami wants to stop that, so she decided not to have children, but her family kidnapped her and tried to force her to have a child with her father.
She was saved, though. And until the end, she still says she'll never have children so the power will go back to Amaterasu.
The android girl who likes her was actually created by Amaterasu. Amaterasu herself is paired up with the brother.

The anime is actually pretty interesting. A shame Shaft fucked it up.
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>>2725162
Was this really that notable? I vaguely remember the brown-haird one having an irrelevant crush on someone but it was completely onesided.
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>>2728218
I thought that was Satou's Aunt for a moment.
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The relationship between both protagonists was what makes everything worthwhile, it was good that I discarded the harem lements and was a really good sports anime, I also adore that embrace of victory.
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>>2731283
I take it you're posting fanart because there's nothing from the show to post?
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>>2731285
I would put the hug, but the internet always disappoints me for a screenshot, although a gif would be nice. At least there is fanart, others that have nothing.
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>>2731283

I like the way they change a bit part of the ED after the episode where both heroines were in a slump but then managed to overcome it by supporting to each other.
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>>2731382
>they're looking in the same direction
>the birds are leaning against one another now
GAAAAYYYY!
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>>2731283
>In a world where flying is as simple as riding a bicycle, there is a popular sport called "Flying Circus." The protagonist once had a bright future ahead of him in that field of sports but due to an overwhelming defeat in addition to a certain other reason, he has left that field. However, he meets the transfer student Kurashina Asuka and regains his passion as he teaches her how to fly. With his situation changed, he participates once again in the Flying Circus. Just how high will he be able to fly this time with Asuka at his side? This is a love story about the two who met while soaring in the skies, and the friends surrounding them.
There's only one protagonist and it's a male, what are you talking about? And is Asuka one of those two girls you post? Do they have any suggestive moments with the male?

I'm good with lesbian side couple, but not if they're merely haremmetes who have bait-y content to cater to haremfags.
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>>2731455
The anime is incredibly bizarre. They took a harem VN and basically stripped out every single romance building scene between him and the girls. He's essentially reduced to a background character who does nothing but coach them. He has the least screen time between those three characters, and the show instead focuses on the girls building a friendship and rivalry with each other.

It kind of reminds me of Hibike, where the anime basically ripped out any semblance of Shoe's presence in the story and just had Kumiko and Reina interact instead.
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>>2731481
I haven't watched either, but I'm gonna play devil's advocate purityfag and say that sounds like they didn't want to alienate the VN's audience by turning the MC into an actual character thereby "NTR"ing the girls from the players of the games.

Yes, there are elements of Japanese fandom that are insane enough to think that way nowadays, and yes, they do get catered to. It's a bit creepy.
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>>2731447
>Superior insights
This is why I come to /u/
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>>2731447
There's a reason why they call that train line Yuri-kamome
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>>2731485
actually there is an open lesbian, but in the VN the same shit that they expect from something harem happens, in the Anime they simply mix themselves in Yaya, for example sleeping in a box in the hall so as not to interrupt the two "in love" "And yes, that really happens.

the surprise is that the Anime of an Eroge becomes something that is not Harem and in its place more friendly Yuri, even happens a meeting when they were small, but it is not given so much importance, they even think it was a girl and not the boy.

It is a sports anime, the MC is as they say, a coach, with his own problems, which exceeds the inspiration of the girls doing their best. There is a reason why hetfags do not like this anime.

Haganai is also surprise Yuri?
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>>2725047
THIS
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Shigofumi got a dyke episode and there is goggleable subtext between MC and her rival.
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>>2731865
You forget that one of them is in love with herself. seriously.
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>>2725089
This.
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>>2731930
And the other is technically married (to a guy).

Regardless, 10 years later I still ship these two.
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>>2732123
>technically married to a guy
since when? who?
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>>2732181
If you recall, Chiaki died in a car crash just as it looked like her boyfriend was about to propose to her. It later turns out that her boyfriend subsequently remained a bachelor for life and iirc also buried Chiaki in their family plot. Chiaki thanks him by standing at his grave and saying "I do".

It was actually a very nice and moving episode.
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I'm pretty happy when Joou-sama no Eshi and Destro246 had some girls revealed as lesbians apart from the plot.
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