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Let's never forget the good times
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What would a pelican friend look like? I need to know for a terrible joke I want to draw.
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>>2770580
Here she is
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>>2770547
Kagan and Serval are a top yuri couple
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How Many Meat Buns Does It Take to Get A Date With Ezo Red Fox?

https://rainbowaftersnow.hatenablog.com/entry/2018/12/13/160727
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say hi to your new mc
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>>2771865
no
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>>2771865
burn it
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>>2771865
DELET
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>>2771865
She looks like a Lucky Beast.
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>>2771865
WHAT IN GOD'S EARTH IS THAT
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>>2771865
Hope there's fanart of her getting dom'd by Kaban-oneesan
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>>2771871
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>>2771893
You're all going to ship her with Caracal and you're going to like it
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>>2771896
>>2771894
>>>>her
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>>2771898
Yes, her.
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>>2771898
Even Kadokawa's not that stupid
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>>2771865
this is fucking disgusting
>>2771899
it's supposed to be a girl?
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>>2771903
Yes.
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>>2771903
Anons... I....
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>>2771865
Eww.
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>>2771905
The design being shit doesn't mean she's a boy. Beta Kaban was also pretty much a reverse trap and even pointed out as such.
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>>2771865
Damn. How did this design turn into that.
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>>2771905
so it's a boy?
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>>2771909
Kadokawa has terminally shit taste if they could go from this to that final product.
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>>2771910
Not a chance.
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>>2770546
I forgot.
>>2771865
And I'm glad I did.
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>>2771865
You are not Kaban!
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>>2771865
What's her name? Handbag?
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>>2771937
Please don't say that, don't taint the past because everything has gone so fucking wrong.
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Yeah, uh, I hope that not what they had in mind
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https://kemonogoudou.github.io/OsanaGoudou/
new kf collab
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckAJGAOOa1M&feature=youtu.be
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I heard there is some drama regarding Kemono Friends. What happened? Why are some people upset?
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>>2775848
tldr Original director sacked. Fans not happy.
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>>2775848
serval pooped in kaban's shoe, some people don't like this for some reason
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>>2775849
What about Kaban and Serval? Will they ever get off the boat or did they get sacked too?
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>>2775848
This is ancient news but the producers are just scummy and fired the director of the anime likely because they wanted total creative control. The franchise was bombing hard before the anime so the director got an unusual amount of creative control over the anime because the producers(Kadokawa) had close to zero faith or money invested in it. The given reason for firing the director was that he used show assets without express permission I believe this was referring to episode 12.1 which was made by the studio for free.
The anime was incredibly successful so Kadokawa wanted total control over the franchise to make da monies. The easiest way was just to fire the director Tatsuki or at least that's the theory. Then after fan backlash they made an apology video using the VAs of the anime which was also scummy, because they didn't do anything wrong and Kadokawa was essentially hiding behind them. And even scummier because the VAs likely had no choice because most of them are pretty new to the industry or not well known.
That's how I understand it anyway.

Also this: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2018-09-14/former-kemono-friends-director-tatsuki-i-havent-received-any-script-royalties/.136810

tl;dr - Producers fired the director of the anime for making free extras, likely because they wanted total control.
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>>2775852
Boat sunk, no survivors
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>>2775867
Thank you for the thorough reply. Wow. What a mess. RIP Kemono Friends. Not a chance in hell season 2 will not be shit. Once again short sighted corporate greed has destroyed a series. And I was so looking forward to season 2. Such a shame.
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>>2775848
>>2775878
Where have you been the past year?
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>>2775878
I mean it MIGHT be good. I don't have a lot of faith in it personally though and the whole ordeal soured it for me anyway.
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>>2775852
Kaban is off limits because she was made by Tatsuki I think.
Season 2 will be basically be a reboot with no characters from season 1 appearing. This >>2771865 is the new MC by the way.
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>>2775883
Ever since /a/ became too shitty to bear I had no place to stay up to date on anime drama. Yeah, I am on /u/ regularly, but that's usually to discuss and review or to share new yuri that I have discovered.
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>>2777239
I really hope this bombs so hard.
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>>2770546
Only suffering now from S2.
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this needs translation
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>>2785628
Also this:
https://exhentai.org/g/1277144/8276785105/
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>>2785628
Way ahead of you: >>2785001
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Happy year of Piggy everyone
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>>2791045
>You alright? Did they do anything to you?
>Yeah...I'm fine~
>They just whipped me, tied me up, dripped wax on me, then [censored] my butt
>...Yeah, you're alright...
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>>2771890
I thought it was fan art of a personified lucky beast for weeks
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Just a warning before any of you waste time with Tatsuki’s new show, they advertised it as an all-girls anime and then revealed the hetshit male MC in the first episode.
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>>2792484
>they advertised it as an all-girls anime
Not really, stop creating fake controversy.
Didn't you watch the shorts?
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>>2792556
The shorts shouldn't be relevant at all, this was advertised with the redheads every single time.
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I see the second season is receiving a lot of hate, I know there was some drama about it time ago but I don't know the reasons, can someone explain?
For what I get people is simply mad because Kaban isn't in it?
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>>2793352
>>2775867
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>>2793354
Tatsuki defence force in action. Go back to shilling his hetshit isekai harem in general thread.
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KF thread in /u/ and yet
not a single pic about the cat
who's very open about it?

Let's fix that
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>>2775867
Very biased post. Not director is ever allowed to use the IP as they want. They asked Tatsuki to stop, he admitted he didn't wanna stop. Try to find other directors using their shows to make ads like he did.

>The anime was incredibly successful so Kadokawa wanted total control over the franchise to make da monies. The easiest way was just to fire the director Tatsuki or at least that's the theory.
Theory backed by random 4chan anons. They would make more money with Tatsuki. There was no reason to fire him if he followed the rules.

>And even scummier because the VAs likely had no choice because most of them are pretty new to the industry or not well known.
Sadly, you people are trying to ruin these seiyuu's carrer.

>Also this
Tatsuki himself admitted he had misunderstanding what happened there and apologized later.

>Producers fired the director of the anime for making free extras, likely because they wanted total control.
It's their IP, they need to control it. Kadokawa's error was paying low attention to the anime, which made the staff think they had all the freedom, which is never true in these cases. In fact, Tatsuki using a character that belongs to him instead of belonging to the franchise just show how narcisist he is. That's not common to the anime industry at all. Usually original characters belong to the franchise, not the director.
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>>2771865
She's beautiful.
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>>2793410
>Not director is ever allowed to use the IP as they want.
But that's exa tly what happened in this case. They only changed their mind later.
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>>2793410
>In fact, Tatsuki using a character that belongs to him instead of belonging to the franchise just show how narcisist he is. That's not common to the anime industry at all. Usually original characters belong to the franchise, not the director.
The fact that he was allowed to use her at all proves that Kadokawa didn't give a fuck about he did.
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>>2793427
That's no true. The one who said he could use the IP as he wanted was the original creator. The thing is, the original creator didn't have the rights for it. He probably thought no one would give a shit because the franchise was dead.

>>2793434
Yeah, like I said, their mistake was not paying attention to the project. You could judge them for only doing something after the show's success. You're right there. But everything they did was still in their right.
Also, if the series had flopped as it was supposed to, no one would even want ads using the characters. Even if the director used the characters for shorts, no one would give a shit, even though he still didn't have the rights.
Since it was a hit, Kadokawa would be losing their rights on the brand. Can you imagine Index's director being like: "Why can't I use the characters to make personal side projects and Tatsuki can do it with KemoFure?"
They just couldn't allow him to do what he wanted anymore.
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>>2793441
That still doesn't justify them firing him. And I don't think anyone would taken it as precedent for handling IPs they adapt.
Even if what they did was "in their right", it was still dishonest.
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>>2793475
You have a company.
You have an employee that uses the company car with the company logo to go to parties.
You tell the employee to stop, after all, your company name will be damaged.
The employee said they won't stop, because your other employee was the one responsible for the car and they said the first employee could use it as they wanted.
Wouldn't you fire them?
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>>2793441
This is bullshit. The other companies involved had permission from Kadokawa to make the shorts. We know this because when Kadokawa tried to claim they didn't, they posted the documents on social media to prove it.

>>2793475
Ignore this guy, anon, he's just derailing.
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>>2793490
No, because the general public enjoys seeing the employee driving that car, and it has brought good publicity to the brand.
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>>2793498
The actual scenario is that you gave the employee express permission to take the car to the parties.
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>>2793496
I don't even remember if they were specific about what content he made without authorization, but that doesn't matter. Because they didn't fire him because of that. They fired him because he didn't agree with stopping doing it.
He also never said that was a lie. And I doubt he wouldn't do it because he complained about the scripts before even realizing it was a mistake.
Why would Kadokawa even fire him otherwise? I'm sure the new studio is more expensive for them, as is the new director, since he's a veteran.
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>>2793521
Because Kadokawa was mad some nobody revived alone a franchise that was about to die, the mobage did so bad that it close right before the anime aired. Nobody went to the promotional cafes in Akiba before the anime aired. Nobody cared about the manga. Everything was falling apart no matter what Kadokawa did, and then Tatsuki came and did a better job than all the efforts the company tried, and that made them mad.

So they figured a bullshit excuse to fire him and handle the anime to someone that actually belongs to Kadokawa. Which of course made the whole world mad. They didn't think this through.
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>>2793354
Thank you, I should have ctrl+f'ed "drama".

However >>2775867 doesn't really make sense for me.
First, a director doesn't own the rights of a series, right? Why did they have to fire him just to make a second series?
Second, if the brand was doing badly, why firing the director that turned it in a successful brand? Wouldn't it be better for them to let him doing a new season hoping for it to be successful like the first one?
Sorry for my ignorance. I don't even know how this show could get that popoularity since it's way too plain.
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>>2793542
See >>2793534
Basically Kadokawa wanted direct control of the brand, instead of a single independent person on charge of it.
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>>2793534
Wow, you really believe that? That's sad.
Kadokawa only cares about money. No one would risk money for such a bullshit reason. Even more when Kadokawa have dozens of franchises bigger than KemoFure.

>>2793542
Want the truth? Tatsuki created some fanaticals. They're crazy cultists that believe Tatsuki is Anime Jesus and will save the industry.
Don't even bother.
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>>2793567
Oh, so you admit Tatsuki was trying to steal the brand? Because yeah, he doesn't have any right of having independent control over it. He can do it with his shit harem show, but not KemoFure.
Also, let me remind you Kadokawa doesn't own the brand alone. All the committe was involved and agreed with the removal of Tatsuki's studio.
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>>2793573
>No one would risk money for such a bullshit reason
They thought the money was in the brand and anime, not in the person who made it. They made a terrible stupid mistake, they still wanted money but didn't get they needed Tatsuki, so because they didn't like him, they fired him trying to get money from the anime, this time produced by them.
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>>2793567
But what is this "direct control"? What didn't they like about the work of the director in the first series?
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>>2793576
>Oh, so you admit Tatsuki was trying to steal the brand?
No, you're making shit up because Tatsuki made a series not to your tastes so now he's the devil.
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>>2793599
For example, Tatsuki made an extra episode and uploaded it in his YouTube channel, instead of uploading it on Kadokawa's channel.
So all KemoFure's brand looked like it belonged to him instead.
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>>2793593
>didn't get they needed Tatsuki
They didn't need Tatsuki. The franchise is theirs.

>>2793599
They didn't like him using their characters for his own personal projects.
Imagine any of the directors of the Harry Potter movies using Harry Potter characters for their own things. Neither Rowling or Warner Brothers get a say. That director would be booted too.

>>2793604
He's not the devil, but he's not the god that can do no wrong some people seem to think he is.
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>>2793599
>But what is this "direct control"?
Making the anime in a safe, mass consumable by the numbersstyle, instead of a creative personal style
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>>2793604
>Tatsuki made a series not to your tastes so now he's the devil.
I'm sorry? I always thought this drama bullshit. Sure, we're annonymous board, so you can't know. But don't pretend people are only against making this guy anime jesus now.
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>>2793606
>They didn't need Tatsuki. The franchise is theirs.
But Tatsuki is the one who made the franchise succesful. Kicking him out would only bring bad publicity and scorn from the fans regardless of the quality of future seasons.
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>>2793609
Are they really fans of the franchise, then?
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>>2793612
They're fans of the anime, which is literally the only part of the franchise that truly matters.
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>>2793606
>Imagine any of the directors of the Harry Potter movies using Harry Potter characters for their own things. Neither Rowling or Warner Brothers get a say. That director would be booted too.
He actually had permission though.
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>>2793612
We'll know now if the fans really care or if it's just a bunch of noisy nerds.
Maybe they'll find new Tatsuki's show so bad that they'll realize he wasn't even needed for KemoFure.
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>>2793616
Again, the one who gave him "permission" didn't own the rights either.
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>>2793410
>Tatsuki himself admitted he had misunderstanding what happened there and apologized later.
He apologized for piggybacking on the stolen audition scripts case and said nothing about misunderstanding anything. ANN ran the tweet through google translate and made up the rest.
https://twitter.com/irodori7/status/1041280392488148993

>>2793521
>I don't even remember if they were specific about what content he made without authorization, but that doesn't matter. Because they didn't fire him because of that. They fired him because he didn't agree with stopping doing it. He also never said that was a lie.
The official explanation says Yaoyorozu chose to quit rather than agree with whatever "normalization" KFP demanded. Yaoyorozu say they were suddenly fired without being told why.
https://twitter.com/fukuhara_ystd/status/945943151998509056

>>2793619
The production committee?
https://twitter.com/fukuhara_ystd/status/945943187205472257
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>>2794092
>The production committee?
No, he said before the one who said he could do whatever was the real creator. This is about episode 12.1.
In fact, think about it. Kadoka gave permission for episode 12.1 after the show's success. So your "theory" that they fired him because he made the show a success fails.

Aside from that, you only have Tatsuki's word itself.
You know who would gain with refusing Kadokawa's rules, make a big deal out of it and make his own independent show without the need to pay a part to Kadokawa? Only Tatsuki.
In fact, he's even broadcasting his show at the same season as Kemono Friends 2 and his crazy fanatics are targetting the studio making KemoFure 2.
The only one getting anything out of it is Tatsuki, and you just trust his words blindly.
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Anyone provide a translation?
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surprise prairie dog
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Today is the day, everyone. Let's pray that Kyururu is a cute girl.
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>>2796127
I'm bracing for impact, ready for the worst.
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It begins.
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Is that a boy or a girl?
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>>2796630
I wouldn't expect this to be made clear before the end of the season, like last time.
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>>2796630
It's kinda being left ambiguous for now, though the "chan" leads more towards girl.
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>>2796647
>>2796632
Didn't one of the artbooks say that she was a girl? She just looks tomboyish.
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>but she uses 'boku' to refer to herself!
That means nothing. Girls also use 'boku' to refer to themselves.
Now, if she said 'ore', we would be abandoning ship so fast we wouldn't even salute the dudes playing sad music as the boat sinks.
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Eastern Spot-Billed Duck
a CUTE!
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>>2796653
Orekko are just as much of a thing.
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>>2796653
Kaban used "boku" too.
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I saw a leaked storyboard on /a/ that shows Kaban bidding farewell to Serval as she goes off with Caracal and Blue Kaban.

That made me very sad
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>>2796669
Here it is.
This is making me unreasonably upset
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>>2796776
She's dead.
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>>2796776
Same here, hopefully it's not real I bet it is though
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>>2796776
Hey, depending on how it's handled, it would be good closure to Kaban's character.
Or maybe it's fake.
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>>2796788
>good closure to Kaban's character.
>parting with Serval
no thanks
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Not sure how to feel about it. It wasn't awful but there many things I didn't like. They had way too many Friends around at the same time and Serval feels kinda shoehorned. Didn't like the OP at all. The CG just doesn't look good without Yaoyoruzu's style, they should have made it 2d in the game's artstyle.
It might get good later just like S1 did but it's hard to tell.
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>>2796749
Nice.
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>>2796829
Also they couldn't have given the MC a more retarded name. Japanese onomatopeia are stupid.
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>>2796837
Bag-chan isn't a very clever name either
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>>2796829
>They had way too many Friends around at the same time and Serval feels kinda shoehorned.
The needed it. Otherwise, it would look exactly like the first episode of the first season.

>Didn't like the OP at all.
Agreed with that, but whatever.

>The CG just doesn't look good without Yaoyoruzu's style
The CG is way better. Why do you people want it to be uglier?
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>>2796846
It sounds cute and at least it's not the sound of a bodily function.

>>2796870
>The CG is way better. Why do you people want it to be uglier?
It's not as lively as S1's designs. Mine's designs just don't look good in 3D, that's why I think they should have went 2D for this season.
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>>2796914
2D would look like a completely different show. I think the CG is fine and more lively than S1.
I like the new cerulean better, too.
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/u/ you're not actually worried Kyururu is a boy, right?
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>>2796964
There is no reason to worry about something I'm not watching. I already watched the original season.
I'm just in this thread for pictures of gay foxes.
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>>2796953
>2D would look like a completely different show.
That might be good though. Give it its own identity rather than try to copy superficial elements from the first season for familiarity/nostalgia.

>>2796964
No, only retards are worried about that.
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>>2796669
I can't believe Kaban is fucking dead.
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>>2797074
I'm glad she is dead.
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>>2797074
This could be actually interesting if they follow up on it.
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>>2796669
>>2797074
I guess that's my last episode right there, I'll probably make it my farewell as well.

>>2797075
Fuck you.
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>>2797022
>That might be good though. Give it its own identity rather than try to copy superficial elements from the first season for familiarity/nostalgia.
>Make the sequel for a show and make it look nothing like the original show.
Sure, that makes a lot of sense.

>>2797074
RIP.
Maybe new girl is Kaban and Serval child, though.
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>>2797074
Kemono Friends more like Kemono Deds haha
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>>2797174
>believing random rumours on the internet
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See You Park Cowgirl
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>>2797294
If I can't trust my /u/ friends, who can I trust Mahiru-chan?
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>>2797347
Your heart.
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>>2797074
they are playing with fire, there are many ways to handle things with the sequel, that it was different and that it really did not try to insult the detractors, new story with new people, many sequels do that, people complain, but it's never anything important.
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So I re-watched the first ep of S1 straight after the S2 ep to compare them.

The op is trying too hard to be cute and has none of the authenticity of the original.
Original kemofure almost always focused on establishing then developing the relationships between the new friends that were introduced, alongside whatever else was going on, which was one of the reasons it generated so much yuri art. The new season shows no sign of that so far, being focused entirely on the MC's dilemma, conflict with ceruleans, and cutesy stuff in that order.
Scriptwriting doesn't seem as good either. You're clubbed over the head with each friend's special skills, while it was worked more naturally in to the conversation in the original.
There were some nice moments, like Kyu's drawing for Duck-chan, but so far S2 seems more shallow then the original.
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>>2797519
I don't know what the hell you're talking about. First episode of S1 was just bland and S2 did the exact same thing.
The relationship between characters came later.
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>>2797530
Did you even finish the series? The conversations in the first ep lay the groundwork for many of the themes and events to come and are directly relevant to the emotional climax of the story.

Almost the entire episode is Kaban and Serval interacting and building up their relationship, both cerulean fights serve that purpose, and even their conversation with Hippo developes their relationship because she advises Kaban not to rely on Serval for everything. All of which makes it believable when Serval chooses to leave her own habitat to travel with Kaban. You might find all of that boring but you can't say it didn't happen.

The S2 ep did not have anywhere near as much focus. That doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be bad, it just doesn't have the same charm so far.
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>>2797547
Because the setting is already stablished.
Also, do you realize by what you said that how relevant epi 1 of S2 will only be clear after the show is over?
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>>2797553
Yes, that's one of the comments I cut out because it's blindingly obvious and I was trying not to make a wall of text.
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After watching episode 1 of season two I'm afraid they are going to reveal it to be far in the future where Kaban / bagchan is dead (from old age or cerealian). Servial and the other apparently have much longer natural life spans than humans.

Who do you think took out the giant cerrlean?
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>>2798036
I actually want that. That would mean theres still a possibility that Serval and Kaban lived a long and happy life together instead of just drifting apart after S1 ended.

I don't mind that Serval seems to have forgotten about most of their time together either, that's the type of immortality I actually hope humanity will achieve eventually. That way you can have a current lifetime's worth of happiness with the people around you and keep moving onwards without everything becoming dull.
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>>2798036
Kaban is a Friend
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>>2798036
>Who do you think took out the giant cerrlean?
Apparently it was Siberian Tiger.
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Fart-chan is cuter than Bag-chan. There, I said it.
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First new couple besides Pangolin and Armadillo.
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>>2802125
>panda + red panda
Now you have my attention.
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What a meaningless episode. At least they're self-aware.
And Serval even forgot what the ocean is. Grimdark.
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>>2802453
>cute gay girls being cute and gay
>meaningless
You ought to double-check your priorities anon.
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>>2802697
There were, like, 10 seconds of pandas being gay with each other.
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>>2802453
>What a meaningless episode.
Well, yeah, like the whole first half of S1.
Only thing bothering me so far is making the same plot with the two girls looking for them. I hope they don't stretch it to the end.
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>>2802699
More like 20 minutes of cuteness climaxing in gayness.
Not every anime can be full-blown yuri, but shows like this make any season that much more pleasant.
Just disregard people fussing over the former director on principle and enjoy the good points of the show.
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>>2802704
personally I would have preferred not to use Serval and only Caracal, that way it would be more personal, a new adventure in the park with new characters is not a bad idea, but cancel the end of s1, it's just silly.
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>>2802717
Pretty sure they're going somewhere with it, Serval mysteriously losing memory was also hinted at during S1 (when they heard Mirai's voice recording and she started crying), so rather than cancelling it, the ending was time-skipped and we're left wondering what on earth could've lead to the current predicament.
I for one like this direction, it feels more unpredictable than just picking up where S1 left off; on the surface everything is just like it was during the previous season, but nothing actually is.
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>>2802724
I would have preferred S2 with new characters and with different dynamics, could help a little, leave Serval to the end or something like that.
Exploring new areas of the park also helps a little, it also seems that the mystery is different from S1, Kaban did not have any memory of anything, here things are a little different.

>Serval mysteriously losing memory was also hinted at during S1 (when they heard Mirai's voice recording and she started crying)

the funny thing is how your VA was different in the recording, wait for them to use that gap in their favor and there may be a Celureal involved.
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>>2802704
>enjoy the good points of the show
I can't find any.
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It’s dead, Jim
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>>2802762
S1 was not a masterpiece, it was good and it handled well, in the end it is an adaptation, S1 deserves time to work properly and it is more a set than small parts, let's wait as S2 progresses and I still complain about serval.
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>>2802762
The MC isn't a shitty male self insert for the girls to fall in love with.
Found one for you.
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>>2802762
I'd be very surprised if you found any in the first two episodes of S1 then.
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I think some people are approaching this show wrong. If you treat is a spin-off, not a sequel, it is much more enjoyable.
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>>2803335
if you have to ignore certain parts of the show to make it more enjoyable then what's the point?
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>>2803335
You can tell a lot of people starting watching the original Kemofure 4-5 episodes in.
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>>2803341
This season is just as silly as the first season was. But apparently people only remember the fight and action.
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>>2803340
People being idiotic, basically the Gridman yuri fandom works, literally the Anime has no value.

>>2803356
>But apparently people only remember the fight and action.
Come on, even that was not good, S1 was lovely, but it's not perfect.
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>>2803059
Not good enough to be one.
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>>2803356
That's part of the problem. It wants to carbon copy the first season and is failing on recreating the magic. It's trying to copy the first season's gags, failing and then shits on the story while feigning respect.
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>>2803460
not really, just copying the formula, does not mean that the first one was particularly good, but I think that new MC + Caracal, would have offered a different dynamic, because the personality of Caracal is different from Serval, the one that is left over is Serval ( which is the part to hook nostalgia)

Also this season has something that the first never had, shadows.
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>>2803460
>It wants to carbon copy the first season
I think this is a problem. I'm fine with everyone happening so far, but things like the two girls looking for the heroines again is worrying.

>and is failing on recreating the magic
I disagree, it has pretty much the same feeling and is just as fun.

I only worry about the main plot being a copy of the first and that making it become boring. I kinda wish this season was just silly fun without a big plot, but that's clearly not happening.

Nothing in it is inferior compared to S1, though. In fact, even the bad things are the same. And some things are actually better.
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I liked this episode more than the first.

The Pandas were really cute.
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>>2803587
How can it be just as fun when they are using the exact same gags? Jokes get less funny the more you repeat them.
>I kinda wish this season was just silly fun without a big plot
The big plot is what made the first season so popular, without it would cause even more hatred toward the sequel.
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>>2793410
>>2793434
>Tatsuki using a character that belongs to him

Which character was that? I don't remember.
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>>2803661
Kaban. She's an anime original.
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>>2803661
>>2803666
Get the fuck out of here with this narcissism bullshit. There's no way Tatsuki legally owns the rights to Kaban even if he created her.
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>>2803649
>The big plot is what made the first season so popular
On west. Japan liked it for the silly part. Try to google news about that time. Most japanese people said they liked it because it was "different and healing".
No one uses "healing" for action scenes.
That's why Japan still likes it and west is being stupid. Truth be said, Japan are the only ones who ever liked KemoFure, west pretended to like because of the meme.
Then they even forgot what the show was about.
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>people on /u/ regretting Tatsuki's demise
Eh, when tasked with working on an all-girls series, he created his original MC Kaban, and kept forcing the "guess Kaban's gender" meme even after the show was over. Now that he has free reign, what he ends up making is a het harem of all things.
It's pretty clear what he's really into.

I say good riddance, thankfully he was cut off before he managed to pollute the series with forced het.
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>>2803752
>I say good riddance, thankfully he was cut off before he managed to pollute the series with forced het.
I don't think that would have happened anyway. Mine would have probably gone against it. And it's not like males even exist in the KF world, all Friends are female and humans are probably near-extinct.
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>>2803776
>And it's not like males even exist in the KF world, all Friends are female and humans are probably near-extinct.
Makes you wonder if Kaban would be a male if the show didn't had that setting. Tatsuki didn't create it, after all.
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>>2803683
>Japan liked it for the silly part.
Seeing as how the show only trended on Japanese twitter during the action scenes I'm calling bullshit on your whole post.
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>>2803675
We already know he does.
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>>2803752
If Kadokawa didn't fire him he would have stayed here making a high quality season 2, it's Kadokawa's fault he ended making a show with a dude.
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>>2803666
Thank you for the answer! I didn't realize that.
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>>2803752
Was Tatsuki really trying to force a meme about Kaban's gender being ambiguous? Even in the opening song I can see at least two shots where it looks like Kaban has small boobs. Seems intentional that we were always supposed to know she's female.
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>>2803920
Was it trending during the action scenes or did you pay attention during the action scenes? That's a good detail you might be overlooking there.

>>2804015
He would want to make it in his shit studio with his ugly animation. We got something better.
And the generic anime with a dude is clearly his dream project, as he has been building it for years.
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>Kadokawa
>Gave us YagaKimi anime
>Gave us Eclair
>Gave us several yuri anthologies, with three new coming up in the next few months
>Lost of yuri series on Comic Walker

>Tatsuki
>Gave us ugly animation and stupid drama
>Gave us mediocre anime with forced het

Why people on /u/ are still on his side? Just go back to /a/ with this shit.
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>>2804046
You can look up the trend history, it only trended during the action focused episodes. The Japanese tag went world trending only during the story heavy fights, especially when Kaban got absorbed.
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>>2804057
Nobody is on Tatsuki's side, m8. Looks like even his supporters are now making excuses to stay on his side.
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>>2803683
>Japan are the only ones who ever liked KemoFure, west pretended to like because of the meme.
>Then they even forgot what the show was about.
the western fandom being western.

>>2803752
>I say good riddance, thankfully he was cut off before he managed to pollute the series with forced het.
seriously, that really could have happened, he could even have turned that dead penguin into something too.

>>2804046
>And the generic anime with a dude is clearly his dream project, as he has been building it for years.

the romance is stupid and the MC is even more stupid, add that to the bad CG, this is the real project that has nothing of the magic that KF S1 had and is a free project without restrictions.

>>2804057
Kadokawa is not a single entity and has several people working there, so we can not demonize the entire company because of a conflict between a silly directive and a pretentious director.

>>2804069
>trending only during the story heavy fights, especially when Kaban got absorbed.
>ignoring that it was the last episodes, it has shock value and the action was secondary.

>>2804071
the old story with the kind of people like Taksuki.
the image reminds me that Manga was gay.
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>>2804069
You do know Japan was praising it around episode 3, right?
Of course the scene with the most shocking moment will trend more. Because there were that much people watching it in the first place.
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>>2804046
>He would want to make it in his shit studio with his ugly animation. We got something better.
No, the Tatsuki/Yaoyarozu artstyle is perfect for KF. This season doesn't look good at all.
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>>2804057
The "ugly animation" and "stupid drama" is what made series popular to begin with. The new season is just a run of the mill kids' show.
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>>2804107
the first one did not look good either, people draw the characters with their own style and ignored the original.

The "fans" do not know how this works, I remember when the character designer made an image of Servan and the "fans" attacked him for not being the "father of the franchise"
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>>2804096
>>2804097
So it was most popular for its plot and fights and not it's gags. I don't know what you are trying to argue now.
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>>2804111
For stupid drama, I mean the drama that made him fired.
The show so far is exactly the same as S1 was at this point, so stop saying bullshit. I would actually say S1 was more of a kids' show at this point.
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>>2804115
is because KF is basically an Anime for children.

>>2804113
shock value does not fight, and plot is equal to when SnK still mattered.
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>>2804113
Until episode 3, there was only gags in S1, too.
You might be forgetting about it because you watched it for the meme like most of west, but here's an article written when the show became a hit in Japan:
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2017-02-24/kemono-friends-this-season-sleeper-hit/.112202

>Yet he also wanted to make an anime that "heals the exhaustion of work or school" and captures the "amusing feeling you get when you look at animals" through the characters' dialogue and interactions.
>On one hand, it follows a familiar iyashi-kei formula: cute girls with simple, likeable and easily distinguishable personalities doing not much in a picturesque setting. Their cute clothing and art style and cheerful, innocent personalities (it's still not clear what Serval eats or how she hunts) places them firmly in the moe category: girly and sweet enough to put the viewer at ease while sexy enough to keep older male viewers coming back or fantasizing.
>The combat that was so prevalent in the original game is almost absent, and male characters have yet to appear.
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>>2804123
Basically the Anime is thought as a SOL, it was made as a SOL and it works like a SOL.

it was not the fights, it was the shock value of watching "die" to Kaban, leaving people in suspense and leaving with stupid comments of "guess what Kaban is now"
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Kaban sent Giant Armadillo and Pangolin, and they're not looking for Kyururu, they're looking for Serval.
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>>2804126
>watching "die" to Kaban
Please learn English and stop using Google Translate.
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>>2804040
This is the latest interview where he pushed it after the end of the show, there were more before:

http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/103303

In this instance he basically said he "had fun watching people guessing Kaban's gender before episode 12, and that they should start guessing again after episode 12".

I wonder if his plain het agenda was part of the issues that led to him being laid off.
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>>2804157
>official lore says all Friends are female
>everyone consider Kaban a girl
>even the original character design describes her a girl
What is this guy talking about?
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>>2804164
Kaban was no longer a friend at the end, technically she was already human (technically) but...

>>2804157
>"had fun watching people guessing Kaban's gender before episode 12, and that they should start guessing again after episode 12".

that's the problem.
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>>2804166
Oh, I see. He's implying she was reborn as a human boy.
You know, I can see he doing that in season 2 if it was in his hands.
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>>2804166
>Kaban was no longer a friend at the end
Yeah she was, she was growing her gloves back
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>>2804171
I would not be surprised if that was his intention and maybe that was another reason why the negotiations failed.

>>2804172
that does not say anything, the rules of the universe, the cerulean returns the friend to his original form (an animal) Kaban was born with clothes.
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>>2804171
That wouldn't make sense because Friend or not she was born from Mirai's hair, so she should only have XX chromosomes even without Sandstar.
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>>2804177
She was in the process of growing her gloves back after the whole incident, humans don't grow clothes back normally. She had her clothes because she didn't take them off, but she did take off her gloves.
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There's no need to doubt Kaban's gender at this point, the whole deal was probably Tatsuki alone trying hard to pretend he was making the het harem he always dreamed of.
Now he's actually doing it and KF is safe from him, so it's the best possible outcome.
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>>2804180
but he as the "father of the franchise" can ignore that. It is not about logic, but intentions.

>>2804182
Continuity error? you give too much credit to animation.
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>>2804186
>Continuity error? you give too much credit to animation.
You can't just call it an error with no evidence, that's not an argument. Sorry your hetgoggles failed you.
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>>2804200
simply Tatsuki is not Yuri friendly, as many pretend.
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>>2804157
This is all very enlightening. When the news was breaking, I just followed the Tatsuki drama through the /a/ threads and it was unanimous that Kadokawa screwed him over for some unclear reason that probably involved them wanting to use a more generic animation and writing style that, ironically, was speculated to add a male MC like what happened with Milky Holmes.

Reading this /u/ thread, things make more sense to me. It seems like Tatsuki is kind of a loose cannon who wants to have full creative control of whatever he's working on. He's better off working on his own IPs.
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It's not a /u/ anime, but episode 7 of Last Period was a parody of the Tatsuki/Kemono Friends drama, so it might be worth a look to some of you. The title of the anime is horrible, I know.
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>>2804226
You can stop replying to yourself now.
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>>2804239
Made-me-make-a-screenshot / 10
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>>2804226
Many people, mainly Tatsuki fanboys, do not really try to understand the situation and simply glorify it without understanding what happened.

Kadokawa did silly things, but Tatsuki did a tantrum because he knew how the reactionary people are, I think that in the last negotiation, it was where their true intentions could be revealed.
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>>2804227
Last Period would be a great title for a granny yuri series.
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>>2771865
Haven't watch this season yet. Is that a girl or a boy?
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>>2804979
It's a girl.
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>>2803491
In all fairness the studio never saw much in season 1 so praising season. 2 for having shadows isn't fair.
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>>2804123
Stop generalizing people in the West. I know it might be hard for you to handle but some people over here really just liked the show.
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>>2805014
>praising season. 2 for having shadows isn't fair.
I have seen Anime being praised for less, but I do not know what the excuse is of not having shadows, Kiwi's video had shadows.

>>2805020
Do the same people in the West who call it mediocre Anime, make tops where they do not understand why KM is popular in Japan and not TG?

I know generalizing is wrong, but Western fandom has not done much to not be considered bad, especially with the tendency to attack Anime Kodomo just because it is for children and pretend that Death Note is for adults.
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>>2805020
The ones who liked the show them recognize the new season isn't any different. But I saw people saying: "THE OLD SHOW WAS DARK, THIS IS SHIT!!!"

>>2805014
Is it? I remember people saying that was natural because Tatsuki didn't make anime. That makes no sense, though, since he had done Kemurikusa original before that.
And his studio was making KemoFure and KemoFure only at the time.
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>>2805327
>THE OLD SHOW WAS DARK
Jesus Christ, deeplorefags are fucking cancer, always trying to find a le deep meaning to every single fucking thing
Episode 4 onwards kankers should stay away from kf and go watch tatsukek's new 3deep5me show since that's what they came for.
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>>2805565
>Jesus Christ, deeplorefags are fucking cancer, always trying to find a le deep meaning to every single fucking thing

the problem is that they think that thinking is a good thing, although it reminds me of people trying to find hidden codes in the bible or something like that.

until yesterday I saw episode 2, the only real difference with S1, is that Big Boos is not relevant and it seems that it will continue with the format of "couple of the week"
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>>2805724
>Big Boos
Since when is Kaban a Mario ghost?
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>>2805771
sorry, my mistake.

the people of TVtropes look like tatsukifags, how's the real performance of this anime going?
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>>2805781
How do you even make a mistake like that? What the fuck are you even writing on?
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>>2805790
Come on, I'm not the only one who makes such stupid mistakes, anyone mistakes a letter, that even happens in professional advertising, I even remember people complaining about a misspelled word in the Dragon Ball Kai Opening.

I'm starting to think that Caracal is the one who does not fit into the Anime.
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>>2805794
>anyone mistakes a letter
You didn't "mistake a letter", you changed the name of a character by the name of a completely different character from an unrelated franchise. How the fuck does that happen?
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>>2805781
>the people of TVtropes
I think you should stay there.
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>>2805800
try to reference Big Boss (a damn letter) is already technically the name of Lucky, although it was only Boss, although it is funny as now it has a patch and I think it is an easy joke

>>2805802
it's actually a useful tool to see how dumb Western fandom is.
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Sea Lion looks familiar.
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right screen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Ts8UhfIwM&list=FLBe2n8dHui0FV8JSBVMeVgg&t=0s&index=2
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In this episode: Dolphin try to lure unsuspecting Human to her underwater rape cave.
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>>2808952
The gang should have just offered their bodies to Dolphin and Sea Lion as the reward.
Although it might have taken a while because dolphins can literally rape to death.
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>>2808782
Cute
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>>2808782
I don't get it.
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>>2809253
Arai and Fennec sleeping next to each other.
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>nobody thought of rewarding Sea Lion and Dolphin with sex
Kyururu has a long way to go.
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>>2809469
they have enough of that together
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>>2809479
yup
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Gay pandas.
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Nothing gay this episode. Have to wait for the inevitable Campo FlickerxAardwolf fanart.
By the way, I wonder if this ardwolf is the same we saw at the end of S1, where it was a normal animal rather than a Friend.
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Hi Kaban
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Margay is a sexual predator
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>>2818679
Say what you want, but Kaban's design looks better.
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>>2818679
Older and hotter Kaban.
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>>2818833
Yeah, she's grown up to be a fine woman. But that's no excuse for letting loose a flaming paper airplane in a wooded area. She could've set the entire jungle on fire.
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Season 2 is now officially good.
Kaban & Serval reunion fanart any minute now, along with Leopard and Crocodile hatesex foursome (Gorilla seems to be lacking a partner though, much like Shoebill).
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>>2818857
Jungles aren't dry california forests
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Holy shit, dat episode 5!
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>>2771865
S O U L L E S S
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>>2819265
you arrived 6 weeks late.
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>>2818679
OH SHIT moment of the year.
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>>2818679
Were Kaban's arms always that dark?
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>>2819451
I assume they're long arm gloves like in the original season, but even at the end of that when Kaban got reincarnated, she did have black fingertips for some strange reason. Must've singed herself a few times making those flaming paper airplanes (just because jungles are harder to set on fire doesn't mean she won't try).
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>>2818679
How is Kaban getting older when friends are not suppose to age?
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>>2819468
She got turned from a Human Friend into a regular human when the Cerulean swallowed her up.
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>people are attacking the director on twitter after this episode
Guess they believe the fairy tale about Tatsuki owning Kaban.
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>>2819451
>>2819473
the kemonoplasm is consuming her
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>>2819453
>for some strange reason
She's a friend, clothes are part of friend biology, so they regenerate.
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>>2819770
But didn't the Cerulean from the end of S1 eat all of her Sandstar? She should be a normal human now.
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>>2819611
Tatsuki owns Kaban, retard.
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>>2820031
Not anymore.
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>>2819611
>Guess they believe the fairy tale about Tatsuki owning Kaban.
I think it's worse, they think that Tatsuki is the owner and father of the franchise (Kenji Inafune, anyone?) They even attacked the character designer for making a drawing of Serval.

>>2820031
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>>2820047
Except that no one was saying anything before Kaban showed up. It was all praises to the director. After the last episode, he had to actually address people were harassing him.

https://twitter.com/Ryuichi_Kimura/status/1095277046215757826
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>>2820053
>It was all praises to the director.
It's good to see people who understand things and do not idolize the director of that mediocre Anime this season.

those idiots TVtropes had not updated the KF page for a long time, I know it is not a Wiki, but they can pretend to mature a little, stop glorifying garbage and then be surprised that it is something bad (not talking about KF)
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https://twitter.com/h_u_r_e_n_z_u/status/1095586414798954496
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>>2804011
Does he now?
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>>2820045
That's not even close to the original Kaban, just because they have the same name, doesn't mean it's the same Kaban owned by Tatsuki.
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>>2820079
Wew lass.
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I want a Virgin Kemurikusa vs Chad Kemofure 2 picture.
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>>2820079
You're right. Just because they have the same name, the same design, the same history, the same voice, that doesn't mean they're the same characters.
This could be a clone! We never know.
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>>2820031
Is there some legal documentation you can link us to, or is this just a case of "my Sanic OC Donut Steel is legally mine because I said so!"?
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>>2820079
>Kaban owned by Tatsuki
Alas, Tatsuki owns exactly zero Kemono Friends characters.
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>>2820093
>the same design
This is an adult version, that's not the original Kaban owned by Tatsuki, it's an adult. It doesn't even make sense, she is still supposed to be a friend or the gloves wouldn't be growing.
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>>2820060
TVtropes is irredeemable anyway
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>>2820204
Different artstyles makes characters look different. Also
>Kaban owned by Tatsuki
>implying
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>>2820278
This change is a lot more than just "artstyle"
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>>2820294
I think the real problem is
>Kaban owned by Tatsuki
I think you are giving too much credit, many things were already established is like thinking that Digimon Adventure is the "original".

>>2820222
sadly, yes.
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>>2820308
Tatsuki owns the original young design.
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>>2820331
He doesn't. There's not "owning a design". You either own the character or you don't.
I think you're implying that he owns the assets. And there you might be right. But that's not just Kaban, every other character too since the assets are all new.
And no one wants his shit assets when the new studio makes prettier ones.
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>>2820348
They aren't prettier at all.
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>>2820360
Yeah, they are.
Kemurikusa and KF models are ugly.
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>>2820360
How do you use the internet when you are so blind?
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>>2820590
Kaban looks so handsome now.
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>>2820635
the design does not have many changes, but these changes make her look really cool, people can match Kyururu with Caracal, so there's no problem at all.

>>2820436
those of Kemurikusa are really worse, even more for trying to tell something serious and the generic guy is ugly to look at.
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>>2820920
Stop replying to yourself.
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>>2820966
I don't think that's him. The posts he's replying to have capitalisation and considerably better English.




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