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>"New" fic recommendation list: http://pastebin.com/7PfNUaCG
>Older recommendation list: http://pastebin.com/NyBwmzVf
>Ancient rec list: http://pastebin.com/R3TxjN1b

>Ship list: http://pastebin.com/U6sHLcN3
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>>2779366
I started watching this a few days ago and I'm finished with season 1. I iked Ruby and Weiss together since the very first moment I saw them. My question is, where the show is now, does this ship get anywhere?
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No. The only canon /u/ in the show is a side character from V5 who likes Blake and, if you watched the after credits scene with Roman at the end of V1, the green haired girl in the background is probably gay for the fire chick. Blake x Yang remains a vague possibility.

It's a decent enough show for using goggles. Weiss shows interest in a boy in early V2 but it doesn't go anywhere. Ruby has yet to show interest in anyone.
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Sorry, V = Volume = season
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It's running through season 6 right now. The ship hasn't gone anywhere and quite possibly never will, but there are still several cute moments between them you might enjoy
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>>2779454
So I was told by certain nee-sans on /u/ that this show would have yuri content, so I guess it was all just yuri goggle fantasy. I don't think I'll continue watching this then. It's not really up my alley.
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>>2779461
They introduced an actual gay couple in the current season, and there's been loads more moments between the four main girls too.
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Merry Christmas, have some of most festive couple!
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>>2779461
>have yuri content
No, not really. Certainly not for RubyxWeiss. They stay on good terms but there isn't even all that much interaction between them just as friends after volume one.

There's the aforementioned girl who loves Blake, but she's only relevant for that volume. There's Emerald (the green haired girl) whose whole thing is being loyal to Cinder (the fire lady from episode 1/the post credits scene in the season 1 finale) because Cinder took her off the streets, and it's possible that goes deeper than just thankfulness. Jaune's older sister this season is happily married to a woman, though they probably wont be relevant after the season ends.

Besides that it's just goggle fuel. Blake and Yang have a couple moments, neither of them are particularly /u/, just caring teammate stuff. A lot of the fandom is convinced that the ship is endgame but that remains to be seen, and it is just those couple caring moments so far, everything else between them is drama. Penny and Ruby have a couple nice moments as cute friends that can be goggled.

That's about it. Do not be fooled by comments like >>2779467
>there's been loads more moments between the four main girls
1) There are not loads of moments, there are a handful
2) These aren't heavy, or even light subtext moments, they are just the main girls being on a team and friends.

You are honestly better off watching the spinoff, RWBY Chibi, for subtexty moments.
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Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRAfKOeJmeo
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>>2779475
>thread theme
>>>/r/rwby
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>>2779474
Not sure why people are so keen to dismiss a canon gay couple who are plot-relevant, even if just for this volume. I get /u/'s attitude of "we never get anything", but c'mon.
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Because they don't matter. Why would you watch 5 volumes of RWBY, a show that is pretty bad the majority of the time, for a pair of canon lesbians who are tertiary at best characters and will not be seen again after this volume. It's not like we're going to get their backstory, or see their relationship for an extended period of time. It might as well be bury your gays, except they are buried in lack of plot relevance instead of the ground.
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>>2779491
/u/'s perpetual pessimism wears on me at times.

Forget it, just post gay shit.
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>>2779569
Saphron and Terra hooking Blake and Yang up when???
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>>2779578
Edge is fine and all, but when are they gonna make out
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>>2779602
When they are done with the killing and go back home.
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>>2779569
>faunus girl gets CIVILIZED by horny couple
>>2779585
>cougar couple tricks young girls into foursome
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>>2779605
>saphron takes blake
>terra takes yang
>they practice what their gonna say to each other and practice other things
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How does Blake and Yang spend their Christmas?
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>>2779620
Why are you here? Go back to /co/
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Thought I'd share some of my fics here that I don't regret writing. It's all WR and it's all short and sweet. Hope at least some enjoy.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/16373165
https://archiveofourown.org/works/17106434
https://archiveofourown.org/works/16015523
https://archiveofourown.org/works/12977661
https://archiveofourown.org/works/12709161

The names and summaries suck I know, it's not my strong suit
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Pretty nice episode, maybe now everyone will stop moping every time Pyrrha's brought up.
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>>2783494
Is it only First members this week?
Do I have to avoid 4chan for another week until I see the episode?
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>>2783523
/co/'s thread puts .m3u8 links in the OP when they're released. Just grab it and google "hls player".
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>That swelling string version of the Volume theme at the end
>An actual narrative thread between Pyrrha's final battle and their current situation
>Tyrian dialogue that is not hot fucking garbage


What the hell is going on?
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>>2783494
Are you murder of birds?

>>2783706
>An actual narrative thread between Pyrrha's final battle and their current situation
Which might have been good if not for Pyrrha's whole "had to try" thing being completely fucking retarded and basically amounting to her lying down in front of a runaway train to "try" and stop it. Unless their point was to illustrate that they are being dumb and fighting for nothing other than getting themselves killed, it wasn't a great connection.
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>>2783757
It's a nice sentiment sure, but given how things've turned out...

Or like, Ruby saying they don't need any adult to pull them out of the fire... except Glynda saving Ruby in V1, Oobleck leading WBY in V2, Qrow saving RNJR from Tyrian in V4, or Maria saving RWBY from the Apathy in V6.
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>>2783857
I feel like her whole speech might've had more impact if the whole "Steal a ship" plan had any merit. Qrow's been a little bitch for half the volume now and them finally calling him out on it might've been good; but it took place in the scene where he actually had a point, being negative about Jaune's plan is fairly valid since they straight up stated they have no idea how to make it work.
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>>2784067
To be perfectly fair, he cut them off before they could even start attempting to brainstorm a potential way to make it work. Yes, it's a horrendous not-a-plan, but his defeatist attitude helps no one and nothing regardless.
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>>2784093
Yeah, I'd feel like he'd have more of a leg to stand on if his reaction had more "that's stupid, let's think of something else" and less "that's stupid, let's give up".
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>>2783757
>>2783857
It is slightly unfortunate that the previous writing decisions continue to undermine RWBY's effectiveness even now as things seem to be improving.
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>>2780380
Lives up to the name. Love 'em. Keep at it.
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>>2784195
You'd think Ruby and Weiss being 17 now and Yang and Blake being 19 that they'd mature a little more enough than to pull that shit.
Im surprised Yang hasn't had a more sisterly talk with Ruby about Qrow, or Yang really having any alone talk with him yet, and how Yang wouldn't want Ruby rushing into dangerous ideas while making a pun about loosing her arm or something despite the fact she's been nothing but bitter despite Blake coming back and the entire situation thus far. But I am tired of so many past Vols wasted talking and no real sense of action and getting things going, but Vol 6 is definitely much better then 4-6.
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>>2785027
If I'm not mistaken, only Ruby is 15 (I suppose she's 16 by now)
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>>2785027
Blake being back isn't going to magically perk her up when they haven't even begun to address their issues together. The one time Yang tried, in the barn, Blake severely misunderstood/said the wrong thing, and now she's clamming up.
>making a pun about loosing her arm
Not this shit again. She's made exactly ONE pun in 5 whole fucking volumes. Fandom needs to stop conflating her with Barbara.
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>>2785191
In V2 Weiss explicitly says that making puns is Yang's thing.
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>>2785239
And how many puns has she made since then?
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>>2785246
How many times has Ruby obsessed over Crescent Rose?
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>>2785251
>>2785246
>>2785239
Gee, it’s almost like characters aren’t allowed to be anything other than singular descriptions.
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>>2785027
>>2785054
Ruby was 15 at the start and it was confirmed recently that she's 17 at this point in the series and Weiss is 19 just like Yang and Blake.
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IMm drun again
i love u all and i love wess my beautifulsnow princess
may qiess be happy forever and ever her smile is like the glimmering snow and her rapier is so lovely and pointy
this is one of my favorite shows i dont know why but its lovely and its lovelier that i get to share it with you all
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>>2785284
Personally I like to imagine Weiss as having a December Birthday, which would make her 18 (for a few more weeks in-universe, anyway), but that's just my HC.
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>>2785027
Problem is that they didn't really spend any time showing the characters mature. If not for the word of god, I would've never realized that 75% of the team is over the age of 18 now. And most of it stems from the ever-present issue of characters not interacting with each other. Ruby has it twice as rough with the excuse of "muh static protag", which is bullshit and doesn't even work that well for whatever the Western equivalent of a "shounen" is.

Unfortunately, it's too late to fix it now, though I certainly hope they will start acting their age later in the volume. At least Lindsay stopped squeaking like a chew toy, now I can take Ruby's speeches somewhat seriously.
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>>2785284
Damn, two years have passed?
I honestly don't know why I'm surprised by this.
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>>2785315
That's, uh, really nice to know sis
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>>2785720
>At least Lindsay stopped squeaking like a chew toy
God, I'm SO happy that she finally stopped doing that, she sounds so much better now (and we can start taking her seriously)
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Quantum, where you at? I've been jonesing for some more rough-but-sweet smut from you.
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>>2786114
This, we miss you QT
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Did anyone end up writing that fic of Yang pressing Blake up against a wall and force kisses her hard/fingers her and the second Blake is about to cum Yang pulls out and just walks the fuck away.
If not, can someone write or draw this please. I remember it being mentioned.
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Maybe my shipping goggles are just on too tight, but these are not platonic looks.
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>>2789193
Your goggles aren't on too tight. They're not even tight, that was deliberate.
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>>2789193
You're seeing exactly what they want you to see. Miles on a RWBY Rewind episode talked about how the crew are careful with putting in details and what should be conveyed to the audience. Animation is expensive, time-intensive work. This shit is planned. Every movement, every expression, etc.

Those are not platonic looks at all.

This is probably the gayest thing to ever happen in this show. My bee heart is soaring right now.
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>Bumbleby on Bumblebee
>Blake's hand on Yang's waist
Nice. Not even Neptune did that when he rode with her.
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>>2789199
>This is probably the gayest thing to ever happen in this show.
I agree, since it's the first time two characters ever looked at each other like th- >>2783509
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>>2789202
Yeah, I know someone who has never ridden a motorcycle is probably gonna try and argue it's just because you gotta hold on like that, but as someone who rides one with her dad frequently, you really don't gotta wrap all the way around like that, one hand on waist is fine.
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>>2789205
someone is upset.
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>>2789202
I mean Weiss but that scene wasn't put as romantic. besides I'd see her clinging on to anyone on the wheel.
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>>2789229
Nah. I just think that "every single detail is deliberate and confirms my ship" is overthinking it.
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>>2789205
Sides they were both proud of ruby in that scene. its literally a sister and partner looking at each other before looking at their sister or wife.
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>>2789233
We get it, you don't like the ship. No need to constantly tell us that you're unhappy.
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>>2789233
but its true animation takes time. and that scene with Freezerburn was focused on Ruby this one with bees is only focused on the Bees.
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>>2789236
What I don't like is Bumblebee shippers jumping at every opportunity to yell "hey, my ship is canon now". Ever since Bmblb it's been getting worse, to the point I'd rather avoid associating with RWBY /u/ shippers altogether, lest I get grouped up with vocal beefags.
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>>2789242
Bee fags. Wow never heard that one. I'm sorry you're upset your ship is not happening. But because Bumbleby is getting more and more popular because of the deliberate hints that CRWBY is showing. Should make it obvious that's where they want you to believe is happening.

Unlike Voltron. CRWBY has been very consistent with the pairs they want.
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>>2789242
>I don't like the ship because
Anon, again, you don't have to constantly tell us and act like you're doing the thread favor when you're being a little shit because you wanna rain on a parade. Sorry you don't know what it's like to ship something that's gay. Maybe you should leave if this minor trifle is riling you up so much. Maybe a straight ship is more your speed since that's forced down your throat.
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>>2789244
But my ship has already happened, friend.
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Best to just report the fuckhead.
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>>2789246
Wait are you an annoyed BS shipper?
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>>2789248
Probably an arcos shipper considering how he's acting. Lord knows why he's here if that's the case.
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>>2789247
Is this an Weiss fan who ships Monochrome and Freezerburn
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>>2789248
>shipping the cowardly cat with anyone
Please. I like my characters with a little more integrity than that.
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>>2789250
I'm a BB, Arkos and renora shipper. weird didn't know Arkos shippers didn't like Bumbleby.
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>>2789252
Ah Blake hater. Sorry dude but She's getting the biker chic, Jaune isn't.
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>>2789253
Anon I want you to think about what's happening in this thread and reply chain. Outside of people that treat Joan as their SI, most Arkos shippers keep to themselves.
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It's a great time to be a bee shipper.
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>>2789255
For someone on /u/ you sure like bringing up Jaune a lot. Allow me to introduce you to the wonders of incest.
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Whiterose is next....right sisters?


r-right?
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>>2789250
I'm not any of the people in this conversation, but I'd like to point out that shit like this is exactly the reason why so many people fucking despise BB shippers and the ship by extension. Because instead of being reasonable and just enjoying the ship's ups and downs, like pretty much all other shippers in the fandom do, you feel the need to be an obnoxious cunt about it. Anon >>2789242 isn't wrong. You guys have greatly lowered the quality of threads that were quite comfy in volumes 1/2/3, because you feel the need to circle jerk about your ship's canon status and then respond to:
>Can you please relax, you don't need to act like every second your ship is on screen is the greatest moment in history
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>LOLFUCKING HETSHIPPERS XDD STAY MAD YOUR SHIP ISN'T HAPPENING

I don't really ship anything involving Yang or Blake, so I don't care if BB is or isn't canon, neither has any effect on me, but holy shit you people are fucking insufferable, and this competitive attitude and childish "LOOK I'M WINNING" shit thread after thread for years now has just completely ruined enjoyment two of the show's main characters, AND the likely canon /u/ ship for me.
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>>2789261
Blake and Yang are getting a good deal of focus this volume, leading into the big anticipated fight with Adam and a likely shift in the status quo of their relationship.

So, yes. Personally I'm hopeful that we'll get at least one, small moment between Ruby and Weiss at the end of this volume, as foreshadowed by the OP. That then will lead into Volume 7, which is almost guaranteed to be very heavily focused on Weiss, hopefully developing her relationship with Ruby in the process.
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>>2789301
>leading into the big anticipated fight with Adam
I'm not really sure where you're seeing the build up for the big fight with Adam. So far V6 is set up more like an infodump volume, with the group exploring the world around them and learning new things about their enemy, the past, Ozpin and Ruby's laser eyes. In terms of overall content it's most similar to V4, and that one didn't have that grand of a finale.

Most likely they'll trade blows for a short while, then Weiss will fly by and pick them up. I don't expect them to resolve a major plot point in two main characters' arcs in one episode, especially when it's not even season finale.
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>>2789315
>I'm not really sure where you're seeing the build up for the big fight with Adam.
Oh I'm not. Just saying that the focus on Yang and Blake seen in several episodes seems, in hindsight, to have been building to this. Adam himself seems rather out-of-nowhere, given his only appearances were in chapter 1, and a hallucination in 5.

>I don't expect them to resolve a major plot point in two main characters' arcs in one episode
Nor I. Moreover, we're only at like, the halfway point for the entire series' run. Completing two of the lead characters' mutual, personal conflict at this junction would feel like a waste. Like even more egregious than how V4's climax is likely to be the only real focus we'll ever get on Ren and Nora. There's certainly going to be a fight between Blake, Yang and Adam, but I doubt that it'll be the big climax to their conflict, or the last we've seen of him. But it will be a confrontation all the same, and we'll likely see some development between the two come out of it.
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>>2789315
I assume anon was talking more about the general build up from Black trailer through V2-5 of Adam, leading up to this actual fight with Blake (since the last one wasn't much of a fight and was then interrupted), and with Yang speeding towards the fight. So you have a situation very much set up to deal with Adam (who now has no other story threads, since he no longer controls the WF and so is of zero value to Salem's side, and has lost the support of the general faunus because of the Menagerie stuff), and deal with Yang's arc about him.

The Blake side of the arc is already over. The only thing left to be resolved for her is Adam not being a threat anymore. The same is true of Yang, since her side of the arc isn't a greater plot arc like the WF, but a personal arc about coming back from her injury. There's no reason not to resolve it right now.

>>2789320
There is literally no reason to not conclude Adam here. He has nowhere left to go, and not resolving it here just means they are going to keep repeating the "Adam is following them and wants to fight them" next volume, and the volume after that, etc. until the fight happens and is resolved.
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>>2789320
>Adam himself seems rather out-of-nowhere, given his only appearances were in chapter 1, and a hallucination in 5
Qrow talked about those two guards leaving the back entrance to the caboose open in the first episode. Blake seeing him in his new outfit while decoupling the train proves she wasn't hallucinating, but that was actually him on that train. Clearly he's been stalking the group, and he just told Blake how he was waiting to get her alone.
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>>2789320
>Adam himself seems rather out-of-nowhere
Yeah, that was pretty much my reaction. Of all the things I expected to go wrong there, I never thought a bull ninja would just appear on top of one of the most well-guarded buildings in the city. I half-expected them to reveal that it was just Blake tripping on catnip or something.

>>2789325
>There is literally no reason to not conclude Adam here.
There is literally no reason to bring him up here, either. It's not like this confrontation had to happen there and then; it was entirely up to writers, and for some reason they decided to combine grand theft airship, mecha battle and edgy bull together, which seems like a rather poor decision, especially given V6's otherwise decent pacing.

While I agree that not ending his subplot here would just needlessly drag it out, my problem is with writers bringing that subplot up in this episode in the first place.
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>>2789331
>There is literally no reason to bring him up here, either. It's not like this confrontation had to happen there and then
There is though, because his Blake obsession is pretty much what he has left now. It makes sense for him to be following her now, and this situation is one in which she is vulnerable to attack by being alone. The confrontation not being here would just be "why didn't he attack her when she was alone in Argus". Because the alternative here is him following her to Atlas, by far the worst possible location for him to be trying to track and attack her.
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>>2789336
How did he know she would be going to the tower alone? Why is he aware of Jaune's retarded plan to hijack an Atlesian airship in the first place?
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>>2789341
Why do you assume he's aware of the plan? He's been following them since they got on the train. He probably followed them out of the city, saw that Blake and Yang split from the group, followed them, and then saw that Yang dropped off Blake and followed her.
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>>2789347
That's a lot of conveniently stealthy following for someone who isn't aware of what they're doing and where they're going next. Especially for someone who isn't particularly stealthy.
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>>2789349
I'm not sure what you mean. There's no convenience involved, he knew where the train was going (it's the ARGUS LIMITED). All he had to do was not be 10 feet away from them and visible. This isn't him sneaking into a secure facility, it's him following a group of 7 people dragging a motorcycle to a nearby farm, and then that group taking a large cart pulled by a motorcycle to a large city, where he was free to just chill out on rooftops and whatnot keeping an eye on their party.

You don't need to be Ilia to follow obvious tracks through a snowy forest to a farm, then even more obvious tracks down a road from that farm to a major city. Also, he wasn't particularly stealthy, he ended up being seen twice. But again, he just needed to stay a bit away from the group, not be invisible.
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>>2789359
I'm sure nobody would've noticed a Faunus in a White Fang mask hanging around the city. It's also very convenient that he managed to cover the same distance as a group on a fairly fast moving vehicle in about a day, then find them in the city (where there are no tracks to follow) and then follow them unnoticed outside the city when they went out to hijack a plane. Or was he just sitting outside Argus this whole time, hoping that they will eventually walk out and let him track them down?
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>>2789363
>I'm sure nobody would've noticed a Faunus in a White Fang mask hanging around the city.
His character short showed that he ditched his mask. He's wearing a blindfold now.
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>>2789363
He isn't wearing a mask, he's wearing a blindfold with a hood, so no, nobody would have noticed some random guy. Not sure what the speed of the motorcycle has to do with anything, they weren't driving for 10 hours, they got on, left, talked about Bartleby, Maria told her story, and then they were in range of Atlas. It was close by. Once in the city all he had to do was hang around until he spotted any of their party, like, you know, when all of them were outside wandering around the city looking for Oscar?

Not sure why, out of all the shit in this show, you think Adam managing to follow them to a place he knows they are going and then find them in that place is mind boggling and shouldn't be possible.
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>>2789368
Right, forgot about that. Still, the rest of my points still stand.

>>2789372
>they weren't driving for 10 hours
They set off sometime in the morning/early afternoon and just reached Argus by the time the sun started going down. Not 10 hours, no, but even if they'd just spent 6 hours driving, that's still a bigger distance than a human can cover on foot in the same time.

>Not sure why, out of all the shit in this show
Am I supposed to bring up all of my problems with the show every time I want to discuss one of them? My problem is not that it's completely impossible, it's that, while it's possible, there was no need to cash in on the build up this episode, when there was already plenty of things going on. The fact that you need to handwave several faults with his master plan only makes it worse.
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>>2789329
How long has he been following them and how did he find them? I remember a vague line from one of the informants Cinder talked to that mentioned some guy came looking for Ruby's group before Cinder. I assumed it was Hazel at the time but maybe it was Adam after all?
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>>2789391
Just because Adam wasn't shown to have a vehicle doesn't mean he didn't have one. It's just he only shows up when convenience since he's trying to get the jump on an alone Blake, so even if he has a motorcycle no one would've seen it.
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>>2789441
I don't recall him ever being shown on a bike, and he would be pretty noticeable on a clear, flat road that Yang was driving on.

Regardless, his plan to track Blake into the city and then ambush her when she was alone only worked because the important Atlesian officer that was in charge of letting people into Atlas happened to be a comic relief that had a spat with one of the characters traveling with RWBY, and because Oscar and Jaune had a fight. If not for that, the team would've been off long before he even got to them.
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I cant imagine how much this thread is going to implode if bumblebee becomes canon.
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>>2789329
That was still in episode 1, with nothing else in the meanwhile save a hallucination.
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>>2789453
It'll be like Korra but worse. Can't have a femslash ship with a ph.d dissertation to defend it and even then detractors will play the deaf, dumb, and blind card because lord forbid two girls get together.
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>>2789457
Why bother paying attention to them? Their bitching isn't going to change things or make the creators renege on pushing forward with the ship once things have reached that point.
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>>2789453
Imagine the imposion if it happens but doesn't really get explored at all.
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>>2789301
The focus on Weiss and Ruby in the OP has me excited or at the very least, hopeful. The setting itself is emotional baggage for Weiss, and the so far they’ve been having Ruby, for the most part, be the one to reassure Weiss that they’re on the right path and that she’s not alone. It would frustrate me beyond belief if they didn’t keep this train rolling once they actually reach Atlas.
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>>2789537
Ditto sis.
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>>2787600
Sorry, but I've busier than usual on top of having exactly zero (0) drive to write. This one has been the worst writer's block I've ever had.
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>>2789258
Man, those cloth physics just look wonky.
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>>2789972
guess that makes sense. not everyone can exacly pump out a chapter a day for a whole month and not get out of it at least a little bit creatively drained. no need to apoligize, you've earned at least some respect,

but hey, when you do come back let us know
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>>2789525
>that ring
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Someone said incest
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Had a request of Yang showing off her new arm to Ruby
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I watched all of the s6 episodes yesterday and RWBY is still Exposition the Show even six seasons in. Fuck the shitty comedy bits wasting everyone's time and fuck the caricature midgets stealing all of the screentime. And fuck Jaune and his stupid shit.
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Tomorrow.
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So, any last minute predictions for the new episode?
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>>2794678
No? Great, see you in one hour.
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Thank god, they finally put us out of misery and did it
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>>2794790
They sank Bumblebee.
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>>2794806
The sacrifice of Bumblebee will not be forgotten.
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>>2794790
>>2794806
>>2794865
What happen?
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>>2794937
Adam got slamdunked with the bike. The bike proceeded to drown shortly afterwards. There were no survivors.
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>>2794774
Ah, the warm feeling of victory, and bee stings.
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>>2794942
rip
now where will yang and blake have their first time?
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>>2794957
Underwater.
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>>2794957
Somewhere within earshot of Weiss. Gotta make the princess envious of their getting together. If only Rubles wasn't so dense.
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>>2794774
I don't expect anything to come out of this. This is just to satisfy bumblebee shippers. It will never happen again.
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>>2794959
I can imagine Yang and Blake going at it hard on the upper bunk bed while Weiss is on the lower one with Ruby snoring beside her
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>>2794971
People say the same every time we've got gay bee material.
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>>2794982
Don't reply to the fool looking for a fight.
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>>2794991
If only that dialogue wasn't godawful.
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>>2794958
Adumb gets hit with a fucking bike and doesn't even feel it care. Jesus Christ.
His whole "You weft me Blake, now lemme take off my blind foldio and show the audience and remind you I was branded an experiment for SyMpAhyYYyyyY" was absolutely pathetic. I seriously hope Yang takes his other fucking eye.
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>>2795082
It would've been better if at least his delivery was on point, but his VA really botched it.

Every time somebody opened their mouth during that fight, it made the entire scene a little bit worse. The fight itself was cool, though, so at least there's that.
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>>2795086
Pretty funny Adam didn't really try to use full power until Yang and Blake kept looking at each other.
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So after this episode when are we getting a Bumbleby doujin by Ayane? I mean she's no stranger when it comes to this couple and she likes drawing big breasted blondes
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>>2795091
It'd be the dream.
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>>2795131
It's weird how afraid of simply dropping into the water they all were. It's not like it was lava.
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>>2795131
this frame is White Rose in a nutshell
And i wouldnt want it any other way
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>>2795138
hitting water from a high enough height can fuck you up real bad
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>>2795184
Ruby wasn't that high when she was hanging on her scythe.
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>>2795190
You don't know what's in the water. Being that close to the cliff also means there's probably sharp rocks down there. We don't know if she can swim. Cordovan's mech could very well step on her if she fell.

Plenty of reasons to be scared of falling into the ocean.
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>>2795190
From that height and diving at that angle pretty much guarantees a broken neck irl
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>>2795197
>From that height
What height? Underwater rocks are a concern, I suppose, but it's not like she can't dodge the robot's arm by launching herself off the cliff and diving into the water. No need to just hang there.
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>>2795086
>The fight itself was cool, though, so at least there's that.
I'm pretty annoyed Yang was able to casually block Moonslice with her new arm only getting a handful of scratches. Black trailer had Adam clean cutting through Atlas tech like it was nothing even without it.
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>>2795229
Wasn't the arm Ironwood sent to Yang a top of the line model? Plus it's augmented by Yang's aura.
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>>2795229
>handful of scratches
Let's ignore how she got pushed to the edge too.
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>>2795229
Her prosthetic arm functions like any other weapon in the show – it can block anything with the excuse of "it's aura magic, nigga, I ain't gonna explain shit". Same reason why Blake could block most of his hits with her flimsy sword until he cranked the berserk mode up.

Generic Atlas bots aren't augmented with Aura, so they're easy for anyone with minimal combat training to deal with. R.I.P. in pennies, Penny, you will not be forgotten. Mass-produced Aurabots when?
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>>2795238
Top of the line doesn't suddenly make metal impervious to damage and one would assume her aura isn't covering it or her aura would have taken the hit and been seriously damaged. I mean, you have a massive (presumably top of the line) siege robot in the same episode, covered with humongous metal armor plates, and Qrow and Ren carve into it like it's a tuna can. Paladins in V2 were brand new top of the line (literally a few months before Yang's arm) and yet semblance Yang has no problem shattering one, and Ruby and Blake have no problem cutting one's arm off.

It's just such a cop out, and exactly what I knew was going to happen the second she got the arm--"Oh no, I lost my arm but immediately got a brand new one that can punch several times harder and can block anything."

>>2795249
>Let's ignore how she got pushed to the edge too.
Go rewatch it. She gets moved like a foot, are you kidding?

>>2795250
People don't usually aura reinforce weapons, see above, doing so would just mean the aura is taking the hit, their weapons are just generally strongly built and block things, but that's my exact point, anon. Blake could block hits fine against regular sword hits, and then when Adam Moonsliced, it cut straight through Gambol Shroud without much effort. Yang blocked normal hits with her arm and then when he used a significantly stronger Moonslice, it did nothing but cause some surface scratches.

I can't see them breaking the arm any time soon, which means it has become literal plot armor. Do you really not see the problem with her being able to so casually block what is easily one of the highest damage attacks we've seen in the show?
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>>2795260
Unlike a weapon, which can be repaired or replaced altogether if it's broken, Yang's prosthesis is one of a kind, or at least as close to it as it can get. If it breaks, she's going to be walking around with one arm. It makes sense for her to let her Aura take the hit to protect the arm, as Aura regenerates while metal does not.

>Do you really not see the problem with her being able to so casually block what is easily one of the highest damage attacks we've seen in the show?
No, I agree with you, she shouldn't have been able to tank it that easily. If anything, it only worsens the problem with inconsistent power levels, although it can't get much worse for Adam "Knocked out with one hit to the neck" Taurus. But it's just on the line of "it's technically possible under the established rules", so I can look past it.

The robot being made out of cheap aluminium is another story entirely, that was actually retarded.
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>>2795260
>"Oh no, I lost my arm but immediately got a brand new one that can punch several times harder and can block anything."
I've seen several comments today where people think pre-robot arm Yang would've been killed if she had been hit by the same attack that her robot arm was barely scratched by. Her arm is definitely an upgrade and Ironwood will likely turn out to be nearly indestructable.
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I don't see Yang's arm being anything special once they get to Altas. I'm sure more than a few soldiers also have cyber implants at Yang's level or higher. Heck, I won't be surprised if Yang's arm becomes a liability, since it might end up being revealed that it has a tracking chip in it or something.
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>>2795286
>a tracking chip
For what purpose?
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>>2795271
>Unlike a weapon, which can be repaired or replaced altogether if it's broken, Yang's prosthesis is one of a kind, or at least as close to it as it can get. If it breaks, she's going to be walking around with one arm
I might accept this if it wasn't for her team leader being a prodigal weapons technician who could probably very easily do repairs on it short of it being completely destroyed.

>>2795275
I'm just tilted over how it completely undercuts her character arc and cheapens her character as whole. It makes shit like Maria's line in episode 6 about them being "stronger" than she was complete nonsense
>Maria
>loses her greatest power
>blinded
>gets replacement eyes that, at the best of times leave her sight murky and difficult to make even close things out
>gives up on fighting

>Yang
>loses nothing
>gets even stronger offensively
>gains attached shield that can block anything
>decides to keep fighting

I wish she had just rejected the arm and actually accepted that "this is who [she] is now", and doubled down on her training, learning from Mercury's fight and including significantly more kicking. That would have been so much better for her, and made her actually feel like someone overcoming a setback and turning an injury into strength, instead of someone who lucked out and got a direct upgrade for losing a fight.

>>2795286
I really doubt it will ever be a liability. Also it wouldn't matter if other soldiers have implants, because as was kinda of the start of this who discussion, Yang's implant is plot armor made tangible. A regular soldier with implants is just going to job.
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>>2795289
prodigious*
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>>2795287
Military powers tend to do that. I'm sure there's at least a few shady Atlesians that RWBY and crew could tick off, especially with how chose Atlas seems to the Schnee family.
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>>2795289
Ruby might be great with weapons, but I doubt she has the knowledge required to repair a weapon designed to hook to somebody's nervous system. She's not Winry.

>I wish she had just rejected the arm and actually accepted that "this is who [she] is now", and doubled down on her training, learning from Mercury's fight and including significantly more kicking.
While this might have been better from a character development standpoint, I feel like fights where the character basically only uses their lower body would get rather boring after a while. She'd essentially have to give up on her shotgun jumps, since they would no longer be balanced, and probably on fighting with her other arm as well. Mercury's fighting style might be more focused on kicking, but he still has access to both of his arms and all of the moves that come with it, like grabbing, blocking, doing acrobatics in the middle of a fight, whatever.

I'd prefer it if Yang's arm had some upsides that were balanced by downsides, like more powerful shots and punches, but she can't control it well, or her Aura/semblance can't absorb hits to it so she has to rely on dodging/deflecting blows instead of straight up taking them.

>>2795300
Cross-continental communication is down. Whoever produced that prosthesis wouldn't get anything out of installing a tracking chip on it unless they knew Yang would be going to Atlas.
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>>2795289
Maria's eyes are old as dirt now. Maybe she'll get an upgrade rather than just upkeep once they reach Altas this time.

As for learning from Mercury's fight, he's also got cybernetic limbs. In many ways Yang's now his arch rival.
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>>2794982
I don't have a problem with that, I just have a problem with the fact that if they do make bees canon, there will a ton of people trying to say it came out of nowhere and was forced and all when this is a good deal of buildup for a show like this and they simply chose to ignore it all.
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>>2795336
I really don't get why they think it came out of nowhere, Blake and Yang bonded reaaaaaaaaaally fast in Volume 1 and the only real road bump they had was Blake running away, which is now fixed.
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>>2795337
People are either homophobes or they prefer a different ship with either character, take your pick.
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>>2795337
>why
Because they consider lesbian ships to be actual couples, het shippers that have never not gotten their way and don't know how to deal with loss, lot's of reasons that are mostly just het shippers not knowing how to take a loss and become more and more viscerally homophobic. The people that specifically act like it came out of know where are also trying to trivialize it
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Well that was a valiant attempt at saying sorry for last volume's finale, fun chorography that took good advantage of the fact they were using 3D models shame about all the ropey dialogue in the Adam parts but Weiss and Ruby had some fun exchanges.

I liked it!
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>>2795217
what reason does ruby have to be that close and hugging weiss with both arms
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>>2795355
Because Wiess is nice.
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>>2795345
Part of my issue is that RWBY seemed to push Sun really hard as Blake's love interest until this volume, then it mostly became Yang/Blake bonding moments. Sure they had bonding moments in the previous volumes, but this volume has really made it more of a focus. And having a female character as the opponent of the spurned ex is very rare, which I guess should've been a sign that there was something there.
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>>2795358
There is and was something there for Yang. I think a lot of people fell into the typical het trap where if a guy starts flirting with a girl that tolerates him, it's considered as the girl flirting+end game and that's how SunxBlake gained prominence. That specifically is the fans' jumping the gun and not realizing Blake was, at best, lukewarm to Sun when they first met and sometime after. The shit at the start of the previous volume definitely didn't help matters because of the hole they dug, but with how they part at the end it's buried. Well rather, it's narratively buried. Lord knows if any het shippers will give it a damn rest though. A big thing with lesbian romances is that people, even shows, tend to have other examples of female friendship where the subtext was super strong but it never went anywhere so they begin to think that's Friendship™ when they would've seen through it if one was a guy.
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>>2795363
I think the introduction of Illia and the reveal of Jaune's sister being married to a woman might make it so that the audience starts to question female relationships in the show more. Many animated shows don't get into lesbian couples, so knowing that this show does, might make it easier for people to see when they might be a thing.
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>>2795363
>Blake was, at best, lukewarm to Sun when they first met and sometime after
Precisely this. The most that happened was her coming around to accept his help as a friend and kissing him on the cheek goodbye, which isn't inherently romantic.

Rewatching the series gave me a new perspective and there really weren't any quiet, deep, MEANINGFUL moments between Blake and Sun that told me they would hook up. Not in the way Blake has them with Yang. Any serious talks involving Sun? Usually takes place where other people are around or the conversation is about other people. Not to mention Sun himself quite often downplays his own ship tease--mentioning Yang would get hurt again to protect Blake right after he got injured by Ilia and saying it was never about romance to Neptune, for starters.

I don't deny there were feelings though, but they're shallow crushes. Flimsy high school attraction. Weiss was the same towards Neptune. Sun saw a "cool Faunus girl" and fell for her, but it never went anywhere.
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>>2795367
Maybe though that also is dependent upon whether they feel like rewatching the entire series. Something which is a chore.
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>>2795337
>Blake and Yang bonded reaaaaaaaaaally fast in Volume 1
Volume 2*
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Can you imagine in volume 7 is SDC captures and tries to brand Blake and RWY has to stop them?
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>>2795363
>>2795369
It also can't be overemphasize in this topic that Sun spent an entire season with Blake and their relationship didn't change. If anything, their relationship worsened at the beginning and returned to its old status at the end. Even now I hesitate to consider BY inevitable, but Blake and Sun getting together certainly isn't after an entire season of status quo. At least BY have progressed their relationship in a significant way after this episode.
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>>2795373
Eh, I'd say Vol 1 partially counts. They get along pretty seamlessly after becoming partners.
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>>2795373
Anon is referring to how quickly Blake and Yang became friends in comparison to, say, Ruby and Weiss. We never see anything extensive about their relationship until vol2, but they were clearly fast friends in the forest arc.
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>>2795375
Why would they? Nobody else is branded, branding doesn't even seem to be a widespread thing; if it was, you'd imagine either Sienna or Adam would've mentioned it. It sure is a stronger pitch than "well, uh, I guess working conditions down in the mines are kinda shit".
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>>2795217
What a bunch of gay cuties

Never would I see the day whiterose actually get some in canon content. Years of waiting have paid off,
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>>2795379
Eh, I wouldn't call not fighting "bonding". She's pretty nonchalant when Blake leaves at the end of the volume, Ruby seems to show a great deal more concern.
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>>2795388
Yang does show some concern. At least enough to get a bit upset at Weiss when Blake runs away again. I don't think anyone would argue that BY were best of friends before their first real scene together, but they were still quick to get comfortable with each other as partners.
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>>2795388
That doesn't negate any of their future scenes and development together. She was with Weiss the entire time they were searching.
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>>2795388
Honestly, if you would've asked me what if any /u/ ship I expected to happen during season 1 it would've been BW. The whole heiress whose family uses faunus slave labor and who hates the White Fang seemed to pair nicely with the faunus activist who used to be a member of the White Fang.
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>>2795409
You know it’s funny I thought the same thing but whenever I see Monochrome art or read the fics, something feels off that I can’t articulate.
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>>2795415
Maybe it's because they're a bit too similar to each other while Yang and Ruby feel like they balance them out better. Though not gonna lie moments like where Blake put the blanket on Weiss were still nice for me.
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>>2795405
I didn't say it did. I was just pointing out that I wouldn't point to Volume 1 for bonding, when Yang didn't even bother to get out of her chair when Blake ran away upset. V2 is where they actually bond.

>>2795409
I've always maintained Mono was very strong as a potential pairing, pretty much up until now. In addition to nicely complementing stories, as you've pointed out, they have very similar situations of growing up involved in their conflicts and losing people, feeling like they need to inherit the wrong that's been done and do good instead. They have a lot of little scenes that fly under the Radar, like Weiss going out of her way to specially prepare dust ammo and being the one to notice something was wrong with Blake in V2, Blake wordlessly bringing her the blanket this volume. Weiss trusting Blake in V5, their mutual appreciation for going to a cafe instead of watching fighting.

>>2795415
Could just be the influence of you preferring other pairings.
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>>2795426
I feel like Yang/Blake definitely has more overt moments so far, but once they reach Atlus then I feel like Blake and Weiss' stories could intersect though most likely not romantically, like we saw a bit of this in this volume when Cordovin made a comment seemed aimed at Blake and Weiss stepped in front of Blake to defend her.
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>>2795415
A while back I didn't mind Mono so much, but I guess it just fell out of favor not to mention the biggest person still shipping it characterizes in a way I don't particularly enjoy, which unfortunately turned me off it entirely. They're more like OCs then anything.
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>>2795415
Like this nee-san said >>2795420, I think it's because they're similar in personality, even if their histories and beliefs are pretty polar. I'm not going to say it doesn't work at all, or that there aren't some cute pics and fics, but when Ruby and Yang are so different from Weiss and Blake, the other pairings are more immediately enjoyable because of how the characters can bounce off of one another.
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>>2795434
I wouldn't really say Dash's Mono is anymore OOC than any other average content. Her Weiss is maybe a bit more oujo than canon Weiss, just like WR usually has her a bit more tsundere.
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>>2795337
What cemented it for me 3x11 and I'm always fucking surprised how often people don't read it as romantic in any way. I remember watching when it premiered, expecting Sun to show up and being absolutely blown away that it was Yang. I don't like to play the homophobic card I really really don't, but really if Yang was a guy, there is no way people would do this same "it's just friendship" thing with half of their interactions like they currently do.
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>>2795441
I find the opposites attract thing to be a bit too wacky to enjoy. I don't particularly dislike white rose or anything but I can't help but feel like while they work as friends, Weiss would be far too annoyed with Ruby's constant antics to develop romantic feelings for her. To me Blake/Weiss seem more realistically suited for romance exactly because their differences are more subtle. Because they can both appreciate that getting tea/coffee sounds like a nicer time than being in the audience of a fighting arena.

The differences are still there though. Weiss is a more stubborn and willing to confront in direct contrast to Blake's tendency to yield most of the time. Blake is quicker to give in to her heart and emotions where Weiss tends to stay pretty focused and reserved even in distress.
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>>2795375
I don't think they'd go that far, but I do want RWY defending Blake from some kinda racist shit. They've mishandled the whole faunus racism subplot sure, but they can't really abort it at this point.
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>>2795165
>>2795217
Blessed OTP
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Is it just me or does anyone else feel there’s a bit of a tonal disconnect between the serious Adam fight to act as the emotional climax to his arc going on at the same time as fighting a silly lady in a big mech?




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>>2795466
Little bit. Might've worked better as a RW pov episode for the whole mecha fight finishing with them picking up BY and then asking why Blake lost her coat before it ends. Part 2 is BY's fight with the goat while RW's dealing with the mecha. Ends with them entering Atlas as Blake finishes the story.
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>>2795462
It's all a personal taste thing, really. I don't even think you're necessarily wrong with your readings of why Mono would work. If I wasn't so into White Rose and Bumblebee I'd be open to Mono, definitely. But I am big into opposites-attract pairings in general, and RWBY just happens to have 2 main, fan-favorite opposites-attract couples to ship.

That said, there are a lot of good ships in the show in general. It's hard to hold it against anyone who likes, for example, Ruby/Penny or something.
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>>2795165
The face of a woman who has realized precisely how the rest of her life is going to go.

>>2795355
Because gay.
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>>2795471
>Ruby/Penny or something.
I'm still pretty sure this is end game. The cast likes it, the majority of the fandom likes it. Penny will be back soon. Seems like a pretty easy route.
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>>2795480
I think endgame is nothing for Ruby or nothing yet planned.
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>>2795480
I don't think the Penny that we know is ever going to come back. She was a robot with an aura, so that meant she had a soul. Unless they have a way to make backup copies of souls, Penny is dead for real.
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>>2795488
She will absolutely 100% be back as a 2.0 without memories, probably more serious than before, and Ruby will befriend her again.
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>>2795491
>adding more fuel to the resurrect Phyrra fire by showing they’re not above bringing back the dead
I understand this is a dumb and selfish reason but please no.
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>>2795491
>and Ruby will befriend her again.
I get the feeling that if we do get a Penny 2.0, what will happen is that Ruby will TRY to befriend her, but ultimately fail, having to accept that her friend from the Vytal Fest is well and truly dead.
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>>2795501
Unless we find out that Penny is really the soul of a dead girl in a metal body, so it doesn't matter what body she gets put in. It would be like Ozpin's reincarnation.
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>>2795497
The two aren't even close.

>>2795501
Nah, it will fail at first and then end up working out.
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>>2795458
This
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I just really appreciate the fuel to my reborn WR fire. Makes me wanna make content for it after it being so dead for so long.
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>>2795615
Please do so sis.
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>>2795497
Anon, she's a robot.
Like at most you're suggesting they'll bring Pyrrha back as a robot who is completely different but looks like her. Which honestly would be kind of worth a laugh
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The co gen is in such a severe degree of damage control it has somehow become even more unbearable to shift through for the one or two actual discussions about the show.
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>>2796023
>going to /co/
That's your first mistake.
>>2795501
While that's highly likely remember the influences on RWBY. We're talking jrpgs and big thing with them is power of friendship™ . Colder Penny being dead inside until Rubles tries to befriend her is like top power of friendship™ bait.
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>>2796028
>That's your first mistake.
I just wanted to see what the 2-3 anons that actually watched the show had to say about Adam's eye situation (since I can't do that here). I didn't expect it would somehow find a way to be even worse

Adam getting stung in pic
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>>2796034
I doubt anything will come of it, outside of how generic he looks and more proof that Jacques' SDC is horrible. Now if they go full Minotaur myth with Adam and have Jacques being Adam's father there might be a more discussion regarding it but it'd devolve into hetshit with the way /co/ is.
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>>2796023
It isn't. In the entire last thread:
>one brief argument about whether /r/rwby/ or tumblr has more bumblebee shippers and is "home base" for the ship
>one post talking about the ship being bait with lots of "almost" moments to keep people watching without ever actually delivering
>one post calling it degenerate
In the thread before that there's:
>one delusional BS post talking about how BS had more romantic moments
>one post (like above) calling it bait
Please stop with this persecution complex. It is embarrassing.
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>>2796038
I suppose, but I am curious how he got it. Was it something papa Schnee ordered directly or was it just one jackass who knew he wouldn't get in trouble? Hopefully Weiss finds out about it so we can get some of her insight on it.

>>2796042
I said severe damage control. Not the thread is about nothing else. It's just that the damage control plus the usual shit/green posting has made the thread less interesting than usual. I'm not on here to look at anons fling shit at each other or help each out bust one out.
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>>2796045
>a couple posts per 650-700 post thread
>severe damage control
It looks like you're actually here for pats on the back about the made up shit you have to deal with, and to not follow the board's one steadfast rule.
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>>2796045
There is virtually zero reason for SDC to brand faunas. If Jacques had Adam in a position to brand him, he could've just as easily killed him. Faster and cleaner with no possibility of him becoming a martyr for other beastkin.

That entire brand thing makes no fucking sense. It's perfect fuel for Faunus rebellion, yet instead of rallying the masses he hides it from everyone, when it's something that clearly screams "SDC bad, fauna good". It would only make sense if they reveal he was just into some very kinky shit, and Jacques was lousy with aftercare. That would explain his hatred for the Schnees, too, I'd also be pissed if my BDSM partner fucked off after shoving hot iron in my face.
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>>2796055
Why would it need to make sense? He probably pissed off some mine foreman or even a low end guard and got punished for it. He hides it because it's an ugly scar and basically amounts to "The SDC owns me and I am a slave." Not every character's moment-to-moment, or even long term choices are built around "How will this effect the current political climate of remnant?"
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>>2796055
It's because Adam's a shitty person and a shit character. He has no sense of tactics and no desire to actually fight the white fang's fight beyond using it as a cover to get at Blake.
>>2796045
The branding was likely from some goons. What makes you think Jacques would care about his (possible) bastard? Especially one that's a faunus.
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>>2796062
That would make sense if his long-term goal wasn't launching terrorist attacks using White Fang's forces. As it stands, he has something that would help him greatly in accomplishing his goal, but he refuses to use it because, what, pride? Guy's happy to rant about how he want to fuck Belladonna's up because Blake left him, that's a pretty pathetic thing to do. You'd think that revealing that the SDC actually physically abuses their workers wouldn't make his followers look down on him, as opposed to chasing some cat across half the continent.

>pissed off some mine foreman
Beastkin might be treated poorly, but they're not slaves. One of the paid workers disappearing would be mildly suspicious, if not for the SDC staff, then for his fellow miners. Although this is certainly more likely than Jacques personally branding some random miner.
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>>2796023
I wonder how bad its going to be when they push the final boundary of confirming it and have them kiss or something.
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>>2796067
You're making Adam's plan grander than it was. Only reason why he wanted to control White Fang was so Blake's options of places to flee shrunk. Outside of making WF more violent, the dude doesn't understand sympathy and/or how it can get more followers. It's not some big mystery. Guy's a mid-tier villain at best and one that's unrepentant despite some other viewers thinking his abuse justifies the abuse he did to Blake which is both ridiculous and pathetic on their part.
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Adam's a bull faunus. You brand bulls. It was probably some sick joke a higher up did to him.
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>>2796070
When Blake escaped, he didn't just abandon everything to search for her. He had goals of his own. Goals which got massively fucked over by RaMEN & Cindy, but goals nonetheless. He even had a (short and poorly delivered) speech about a Faunus revolution back in V3.

He's obsessed with Blake, but she is not, or at least was not, the only thing he cared about back when they were both in WF.

>>2796073
Does Remnant even have bulls?
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>>2796064
90% of Adam's plot is him completely ignoring Blake.
>Blake leaves in Black trailer, doesn't follow her
>When his WF members say they'll find her he says don't bother and he needs to go back to Mistral
>Continues overseeing Vale WF, doesn't look for or try to contact her even when she is clearly visible in the tournament
>attacks Beacon, still doesn't look for or try to contact Blake, she happens upon him
>wounds her, doesn't bother to follow her even though she's wounded and carrying someone else so he obviously could catch up
>goes back to Mistral for WF stuff instead of looking for her, even though she stays in Vale for months
>stays in Mistral doing WF stuff even when he hears that she's in menagerie
>goes to Haven for WF stuff, Blake happens to show up and stop him
>gets angry at Blake
>WF rejects him for the failure at Haven, gets angry and kills a bunch of them
>abandons WF to hunt down Blake

>>2796067
It's not about other people looking down on him, it's about broadcasting that the SDC owns him and that he was powerless to stop it. Just like most people anywhere don't broadcast that they've been beaten, or raped, or whatever other trauma.
>Beastkin might be treated poorly, but they're not slaves.
They were until fairly recent history. Blacks in the South stopped being slaves at some point but that didn't prevent abuse or murders, the Irish weren't ever slaves but they were still treated like complete shit as laborers. The SDC staff overseeing faunus labor in SDC mines is probably not going to give a shit about a guard dragging off some kid for punishment, and the other miners are going to keep their heads down and pretend they didn't see anything, because they don't want to be next
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>>2796070
>Only reason why he wanted to control White Fang was so Blake's options of places to flee shrunk
Nice headcanon.
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>>2796077
They have normal dogs and birds, why wouldn't they have bulls? This isn't ATLA.
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>>2796077
>>2796081
Ruby drinks MILK, they have to have cattle.
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I...
I think we did it, gals
https://twitter.com/ArrynZech/status/1084643525730349057
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>>2796038
>Now if they go full Minotaur myth with Adam and have Jacques being Adam's father there might be a more discussion regarding it
They do both have blue eyes...
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>>2796131
Feels just a tad presumptuous. Like, it's blatantly obvious what's gonna happen, but there's still a degree of plausible deniability. I feel like she should've waited another week.
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>>2796134
She's been sitting on this shit for six years now.
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>>2796134
Don't be dumb. They've almost certainly finished recording for the volume the past couple weeks. She knows what's going to happen through the finale.
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>>2796023
I really chose a good time to stop going there. I Can't imagine how bad it is there
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>>2796064
I'm pretty sure he did used to have some desire to fight for the White Fang, but after Cinder forced him to work for her he lost that so he went from "50% White Fang 50% abuse Blake" to full Blake mode
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>>2796122
Lots of animals make milk
Maybe it was just some sisterly bonding
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>>2795138
>falling from that high
>into dangerously cold water
I can understand why they avoid it
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>>2796172
Mercury's eyes aren't silver, they're colourless.
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>>2795217
>Ruby cuddling up to Weiss for ""safety"" despite the boys not needing to take similar measures
>Weiss' attitude through the whole event, and going from annoyed to happy after Ruby starts holding her

Honestly. At this point they could casually reveal that Ruby and Weiss have been secretly married for the last five volumes and just never mentioned anything, and I'd believe it.
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>>2796077
seeing as how Remenant has regular animals such as dogs and horses along with a belief that grim are just cursed animals (which would imply there are indeed regular animals) it is not to much of a stretch to say their are bulls.
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>>2796239
I'd take it.
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>>2796131
>This
>That interview they did before the volume started

If it doesn't happen I'd actually be surprised.
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>>2796282
>That interview they did before the volume started

The one where Arryn mentioned all the people "in love" with Blake? Yeah, that was a brazen mention of Yang.

Also this livestream before V1Ch1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dleqek092RM

In the first 15 seconds:
Arryn: "Can I... can I mention that my, uh... my character and another character are lesbian lovers?"
Miles: "No, absolutely not. [i]laughs[/i]"
Kerry: "Not yet."
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>>2796323
People shipped the characters from the moment the trailers started coming out though, I agree she was joking but it's possible she did ship Bumblebee from that point.
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>>2796361
Actually, no. I think I'm wrong here, now that I think about it, I'm getting weird memories that pre-volume 1 she was into Blake / Pyrrha for some reason. Maybe I'm making it up and just misremembering, but I really feel like I remember hearing something about that.
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>>2796219
Gray is a color, anon.
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>>2796361
>>2796371
People sure, but I don't think bumblebee really became a thing for cast/crew until after V1 when they saw the fanbase's preference for it. Like I said, I'm fairly confident that the original plan going into V1 was probably the Sun route for Blake. The volume just reads that way, particularly considering early RWBY contained zero subtlety at all, and since Yang doesn't really interact with her beyond trying to introduce Ruby and their meeting in the forest, and Sun is introduced immediately as a potential interest (first scene is him slow motion winking at Blake, his only plot relevancy is her, etc. That was probably the first path and then they saw barely anyone was interested in Black Sun and a great deal of people were interested in WR/BB and shifted in that direction.
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>>2796408
Also, potentially of interest in relation to this:

I went back to see if I could gauge when Arryn/Barb first started actively shipping bumblebee, and I happened upon this pretty curious quote from Arryn mid V1, when she had been asked what her OTP was and then had someone explain what an OTP is:

>"So many people responded to fill me in on what it means. Thank y’all!"
>"Umm…. I already know what the actual pairings are, so I don’t think it’s fair for me to answer this. BUT I do think that the Bumblebee ship is cute, only because it’s a well balanced relationship if it was an actual thing."

Which I think tells us a few things, namely:
>"the Bumblebee ship"
Indicates a level of removedness, shipping in general was a foreign thing to her at this point, and "bumblebee" was one of the ship things the fandom was doing, not something she herself was invested in (so we can probably take that lesbian lover comment as just a joke) but also
>she knows "what the actual pairings are"
In v1. Which again, I think somewhat feeds into BS being the original plan, since we know how much M&K scrambled to stitch together the random scraps of what Monty had planned and had to rewrite entire sections and interactions. I can't imagine they had BB mapped out 6 volumes in advance and Arryn knew about it. That she thought bumblebee w"is cute" and says "if it was an actual thing" rather than something like "if it becomes an actual thing" is also kinda telling.

(Also, just as a note this isn't like, some weird interpretation exclusive to me. Everyone in the thread at the time also read her response as meaning bumblebee was not the pairing for Blake.) >>1448864
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>>2796371
>Blake / Pyrrha
I don’t remember this, but there was a thing where someone asked Barb about Yang and Pyrrha as partners and Arryn replied “Oh please, (Pyrrha) couldn’t handle Yang!”

And then Barb said “There’s partners and then there’s ‘partners’.”
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>>2796414
I want to add onto your post with this—the podcast for volume 1. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FlAJvrdyAFU&feature=youtu.be

The ship talk starts around 19:17. While Arryn may not have been super into BB at first, it seems by the end of V1 she really did elevate it to otp status for her.

Partial transcription:
Lindsay: I was wondering if there was some subliminal messaging between you and Arryn…
Barbara: There’s a lot of shipping…
Arryn: Bumbleby! I’m all about the Bumbleby. I shouldn’t be all about the Bumbleby… but I am…
Barbara: I don’t know if people realize this, but we read Tumblr and Reddit and all the responses that we get, and we like look at the fan art and stuff… so we know all about, like, the shipping… but I think that Bumbleby is the most prominent.
Arryn: I… I feel like that one actually makes sense though, in the most, like… don’t think about gender, think about personalities.
Blake is very chill, calm, centered, and Yang is very, like, excitable and simple - no she’s not simple, she’s very intelligent, but…
Kara: You can be simple and intelligent…
Arryn: And I think they work out because of that, in, in reality. I like that.
Barbara: It’s weird, it’s like a weird chemistry that our characters have -
Lindsay: I wouldn’t say simplicity, but I know what you’re going for. It’s in that, you [Blake] are completely mysterious and hide the emotions, and you’re like, I don’t want to get connected to people because it’s going to be a problem, and Yang is like, ehhh you know what? Filter? Fuck you! [yeah]
Kara: Wheeeee!
Arryn: I think that’s why it’s the most believable to me, because the characters are so different and they work so well [together]…
Barbara: Yeah. I love it.
Arryn: Yeah. I’m all about the Bumbleby.
Lindsay: Opposites attract.
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Preview for chapter 12 is up. It only focuses on the mech fight so they're purposely leaving us in the dark on the Yang+Blake vs Adam fight.
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They salt is going to be Korrasami tier or less? I know by fact that some youtubers are going to cry
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>>2797639
Wanna give your question another go?
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>>2797400
The preview is only ever a single scene, the whole point of it is to leave the entire episode besides that in the dark.
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I'm so proud of our daughters that they can find happiness with each other
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>>2796479
On the RWBYs fb they just posted a lightning around of questions for Barb and she said Arryn has a bumblebee tattoo and Barb said she wants one to match.
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>>2797777
I think Barb also confirmed that Yang's a space heater
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>>2797782
Yup.
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>>2797777
The most recent RWBY Rewind also has a very curious answer by Barb.

Q: "And that’s the hot topic right now in the community – is that just a like, friendship support hand-holding or is that alluding to giving something that one of the most vocal shipping fanbases has asked for?"

A: "I don't know. I don't know. I will say that a lot of stuff in RWBY has been planned since the very beginning. So while some people read into things and think fan reactions might have influence... some things could be planned from the beginning."

I think she just basically shot down people who keep saying that BB only rose to prominence in the show because of its popularity.
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>>2797834
I would not be surprised if Monty had planned for at least one Lesbian pairing in the main 4. Look at how Haloid ended etc. He obviously likes it.
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I left the show before Monty died because I thought Neptune would be Weiss's boyfriend, I incredibly took it back two weeks ago and the last two episodes were very gay.
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>>2797844
It's shitty how many antis and homophobes keep pulling the "Monty wouldn't have wanted this" card whenever gay shit gets brought up in discussion. There's a video interview of him talking about wanting to include gay characters and relationships in the show, but he wanted to do it slowly and naturally, because the kids are still figuring themselves out.
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>>2797834
Don't forget what she said right after.
"So you know... Just keep watching (looks directly into the camera and smiles a big shit eating grin)"
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>>2797846
Yeah, seems you picked the right time to come back.
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>>2797846
Thankfully they dropped that bullshit like a chunk of lava.
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>>2797844
>>2797863
The problem with this line of thought is that "including gay characters but naturally and slowly" is something that came way after the fact, when people kept pestering them about it. Monty wasn't good at writing. The relationships in V1 are fairly hamfisted and super obvious. Pyrrha's introduction is her being shown after Jaune says "where am I gonna find another nice, quirky girl?" Ren and Nora's introduction is Nora twice spazzing out about them (not) being "together together". Sun's introduction is him winking at Blake in slow motion.

As much as Barb might claim >>2797834 that this was planned from the beginning and had nothing to do with fans, I have a really hard time buying that Monty "a bunch of fights and some stuff inbetween" Oum sat down and thought
>Yeah, we'll have Pyrrha and Jaune, and Ren and Nora, and then Blake and Yang but Yang will flirt with male opponents and talk about how she likes the idea of a sleepover with boys early on and Sun will show up as a red herring for Blake's love interest but nothing much will happen and Yang and Blake will have a falling out and then hook up.
Volume 1's writing is not subtle. No one was surprised that silver eyes were more significant than just eye color, or that Penny was a robot, or Ozpin more than just a headmaster, or that Pyrrha was going to be into Jaune. It should be pretty obvious he thought up Arkos because it was a big part of the plot, Renora because they came as a pair, and then Sun specifically as a faunus love interest for Blake (literally his only purpose in the show is being around her). And then fans expressed the desire for something else so he moved away from that and towards what we have now.
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>>2797639
I'm just already kinda frustrated that if they go canon with this, there's gonna be all kinds of idiots claiming it came out of nowhere again because they refuse to see anything 2 girls do with each other as romantic.
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>>2798002
>Yang will flirt with male opponents
I don't remember her ever doing this. All I remember is her taunting people like Junior she was trying to pick fights with.

>talk about how she likes the idea of a sleepover with boys early on
I'm not even sure if she was entirely serious there. Given how Yang likes to joke around.

>and Sun will show up as a red herring for Blake's love interest but nothing much will happen
This one I agree with. But it's also questionable how serious Blake ever was about him, since she always kept him at arms length and never seemed super into him.

I'd say by volume 2-3 is when they probably decided to go Yang/Blake route. Otherwise I don't see the point in them tying Yang's arc to Blake by having Yang be the one to combat Adam.
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>>2798002
>And then fans expressed the desire for something else so he moved away from that and towards what we have now.
We can guess all we want but he's dead so we'll most likely never get an answer for the v1 writing. I'd just chalk it up to early installment weirdness where they were still trying to get to know their own characters. Ruby for example was introduced as a weapons fetishist but since then it's never been brought up again, and it's only fairly recently she started actively playing a proper MC role.
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>>2798007
>I don't remember her ever doing this.
There's the kiss and make up thing with Junior and I seem to recall winking at a random WF guy as she went to punch him.
>I'm not even sure if she was entirely serious there.
She was. She proceeds to check out a bunch of shirtless guys horsing around and then gets disappointed by Jaune walking in front of them and misinterpreting the look as being for him.
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>>2797834
Let's remember to keep expectations tempered. With Barb drawing attention to the notion of fans not impacting the story, don't forget that this goes both ways. It could read as
>the story is going where shippers want, but that's where it was always going by design
Or
>the story is -not- going where shippers want, because we already decided on a story to tell and that's just how it is

With that being said, with how Barb and especially Arryn are behaving I'll be surprised if BY don't hook up.
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>>2798024
I really don't think Yang jokingly flirting with enemies should be taken seriously. It's pretty much her way of mocking them.

Now her scoping out the guys during the sleepover was a real thing, so at this point I'm just going to consider both her and Blake to be bi.
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>>2798024
I guess we just have different definitions of flirting. She only did that to Junior to get him to let his guard down so she could sucker punch him and a simple wink before smashing WF dude's face in doesn't mean much. It's kind of the same as her winking at Weiss this volume--all of them are pretty contextually different compared to her winking at Blake in V2 before the dance.

I'm still not sure what to make of her ogling those guys though. She seemed to have forgotten about men altogether after meeting Blake.
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>>2798026
>With that being said, with how Barb and especially Arryn are behaving I'll be surprised if BY don't hook up.
Some people think the movie posters were foreshadowing things at the end of this volume, so they think Tryst in the Mist could be shown by Blake and Yang having a romantic moment by the waterfall.

Of course there's also the possibility that it could just be a really good shipping moment that might not really lead anywhere, at least not yet.
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>>2798030
Several possibilities for Yang's actions in V1. Either early installment strangeness as brought up earlier, or it's as the Roosterteeth staff said and the characters are just slowly figuring themselves out, or Yang realized she was bi after meeting Blake.
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I've always wondered this about Blake. Am I the only one who thinks that Blake finding out Illia was in love with her was maybe a trigger for her realizing that she could fall in love with female friend? Blake seemed shocked by the reveal, which to me meant she never noticed or considered her friend being in love with her. Then shortly after this she's reunited with Yang and co., which to me is maybe when she realized she could also develop romantic feelings for a woman.
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>>2798028
>>2798030
I didn't mean it as "She really wants to fuck junior" you dorks. I was just pointing out that both of these things (the flirting with male opponents, which she never does against females) and the oggling shirtless guys are things that would be very odd to put in for her if the plan from the start had been for and Blake to end up together. I don't think there's any need for weird "How do I make sense of this", like I said, it was almost certainly that Monty had originally planned to pair Sun and Blake and no one for Yang (but defaulted her to being het) and then decided from fan support of the ship and a strong desire for LGBT to do some alterations to the framework.

>>2798035
I think you are reading way too far into RWBY. Blake was shocked because she hadn't noticed and Ilia seemed to despise her at the moment. Homosexuality is a non-issue on remnant, i.e. there's no being sheltered or not knowing about it. Why would Ilia liking her suddenly make her realize that being gay is a thing?
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>>2798043
>things that would be very odd to put in for her if the plan from the start had been for and Blake to end up together.
Well, it’s like Monty said: they’re still kids who need to figure themselves out. A large majority of lgbt people irl don’t know from the start that they’re not-straight. It can take years of self-discovery. And teens have feelings that often don’t go anywhere (eg Weiss and Neptune).

Would you consider it odd that Jaune crushed on and pursued Weiss even though Arkos was meant to be?
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>>2798052
While I do agree overall, sis does have a point that V1's writing was not terribly subtle. Yeah, Jaune pursued Weiss early-on, but "Arkos is Endgame" was about as subtle as a plane crash. So it does seem rather odd to think that the het ships were blatant as fuck from Day 1, while the gay ones were done reserved and subtly. But who knows; maybe they were just easier to write, or they didn't feel the need to put in as much effort to build them up over a sustained period.
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>>2798052
He said that line in response to people badgering him about LGBT characters. And I'm pretty sure I remember it being more of a "Maybe main characters could be end up being gay in later volumes" than a "there are gay main characters but they won't figure out their sexuality until a later volume" It was framed like he was talking about Ruby specifically (since she was the one who showed no interest in things). I just do not buy that Monty, was worrying over a realistic depiction of teenagers working through their sexuality. I'm just gonna assume the simplest explanation (what they wanted to do changed partway through)
>Would you consider it odd that Jaune crushed on and pursued Weiss even though Arkos was meant to be?
No, because Pyrrha, like Renora and Sun was outright shown in a romantic light immediately upon introduction. What would have been weird is if Pyrrha had been checking out a cute girl in V1, and only interacted with Jaune a couple times while he was busy pursuing Weiss. Don't you agree that'd be a really strange V1 if Arkos was the planned thing?

What he was gonna do in V1 doesn't really matter either way, since BB will be canon next week or there will be a huge shitstorm from it being just friendship and Barb/Arryn retardedly overselling their ship.
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>>2798104
>outright shown in a romantic light
Was it though? Weiss shot him down immediately and then he proceeded to ignore her answer. Only comes across romantic if you mindless follow het tropes that only takes into account the guy
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>>2798114
>Pyrrha, like Renora and Sun was outright shown in a romantic light immediately upon introduction.
>Pyrrha
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A show’s writing can change, not all things are set in stone. M&K may still have Monty’s notes that go all the way up to volume 12 and are using them as a base, but it’s only natural that stuff gets altered in the process. Whether or not BY were always intended to be romantic despite early writing suggesting otherwise is irrelevant. What matters is that it seems to be going there and I’m just enjoying all the ship teases that’s been piling up.
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>>2798191
I don't know about always just because Blacksun really does seem like it was the plan at one point, but I definitely think Bumblebee goes back further than the "they're just pandering to the fans" people think.
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>>2798191
>RoosterTeeth, Miles, Kerry and Monty knows/knew exactly what they're doing
That's a good one, anon. It's almost like you actually believe it.
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>>2798235
Go back to /co/

>>2798212
>I definitely think Bumblebee goes back further than the "they're just pandering to the fans" people think.
People are just stupid and don't pay attention.
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>>2798236
>Anyone who realizes RWBY is really badly planned out, poorly written and frequently terribly executed is from /co/
What did he mean by this?
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>>2798191
I really hope you just have this picture saved ironically, to make fun of idiots on tumblr.
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>>2798241
To be fair to the early volumes back when volume 1 was being planned I doubt they knew the series would turn into the massive hit it ended up being. They also expanded on what proved to be unexpectedly popular with the fanbase, like the expansion of Velvet's role when she was only meant to showcase racism against Faunus early on.
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>>2798210
>Whether or not BY were always intended to be romantic despite early writing suggesting otherwise is irrelevant.
I think some people are more hung up on it because they want to understand the characters. If you like a character and want to know everything you can about them, then something like knowing if they're bisexual or not might be important to some people. The story behind how the show is written is interesting, but it's not actually part of the in-universe story. People want to know what's up with Yang especially, since it's easier to figure out Blake since she's already had a previous relationship with Adam.
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>>2798302
Until official confirmation, there’s:
- she was always meant to be gay and that one line about boys was comphet
- the writers not fully understanding her character yet
- she’s bi

I’m of the belief that BB was in the works and that it doesn’t exist because fans latched onto it. I feel it’s more because shippers initially paired them up because they gon’ ship, but then starting in v2 saw the moments they were getting and it grew to be popular. Crwby has stated that they are telling the story that they want to tell and aren’t letting fan opinions beyond concrit affect it.

Unrelated but Kara said that the Ozpin/Salem backstory was all Monty’s idea and Miles tweeted a long thread about the Apathy ep, which was written before v1 was even completed. Interesting.
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>>2798324
If they ever reveal it I expect them to just say she's bi, because the explanation for comphet is obscure enough that many people won't get it and likely have never heard of it. So bi would be the much easier way to explain that. And I doubt they'd admit to not fully understanding her character at any point, since it would open them up to people complaining that they rewrote Yang's character into liking Blake due to the fandom's influence.
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>>2798324
>>2798332
They could also just come out and say she's a lesbian and the comment about boys was her teasing Rubles since she's the older sister, cause everyone forgets the context of the line.
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>>2798300
Yeah I don't get why everyone is looking so heavy at vols 1-2 when it was just the start of the setup to the story.

> People screeching "MUST CONFIRM IF A CHARACTER IS LGBT BULLSHIT IMMEDIATELY! HOW DARE THEY JOKE ABOUT LIKING BOYS THEY MUST BE BI-"
Holy fuck as someone whose an actual lesbian, I remember in highschool I went along with playful flirty banter with boys for fun and didn't need to just announce randomly I was a lesbian just to throw it out there and declare it. So why should anyone in team RWBY? Especially not when I was 14-17 and young. It's an awkward stage. You guys keep forgotting their fucking teenagers. And you're trying to dig super deep into a show that's fairly transparent with this shit. They're telling the story how they want it and relationships take time and effort to build just like irl. If BB or WR ever becomes cannon, cool! If not I still love the show and ship the characters regardless. But there's seriously no need to try and break down looking for fucking gay hints in Vol1-2 when they had no idea wtf they were all doing. Vol 3-6 Has had a lot of BB moments that look promising, especially last ep with Adam looking at Blake and Yang staring at each other and gets obviously jealous. If their relationship happens it'll most likely be a slow burn like it has been already. So until they confirm it or have them actually kiss, let's just enjoy the teasing bits we get.
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>>2798335
Or the fact she was 17 at the time, and a lot of 17 year olds don't have that shit figured out.
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It's also entirely possible that the people of remnant don't look at their sexuality as a key part of their identity. We already have word of god that same sex relationships aren't viewed negatively, we already know that gender norms are nonexistent for the most part, and that no one really expresses their sexuality actively except when they are already interested in a specific person. Ren and Nora themselves may very well be bi/pan and we don't know that simply because they fell for each other before they fell for someone else. Jaune's first crush could have been a guy and we met him only as he happens to develop a crush on a girl. And so on. I'm not gonna argue that is the intent of the writers, but that the intent of the writers isn't really to focus on romance or the romantic interests of the characters. They only do so when the characters are already interested in someone and only when that interested is revelent to the current scene. Everything about those two specific topics are otherwise so vague they could use pretty much any excuse they want to explain BY scissoring next episode and it would fit within establish character development and lore no problem.
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>>2798204
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I have a few more.
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>People thinking that Yang is someone bi

She is the butches lesbian
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https://twitter.com/caseylwilliams/status/1079079917327925248

>When my dad and I used to have discussions with Monty about character designs, trust me, LGBT characters were always in the cards.

I can't wait till we have a yuri pairing and one of the crew can finally say, "Yeah, that was planned."
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>>2798205
I miss NDGD's RWBY art.
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>>2798500
Sadly, I doubt both White Rose and Bumblebee are in the card.
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>>2798617
The way the story's been going the last few volumes I'd say that Blake/Yang could very well happen and that Weiss or Ruby is likely to end up with Jaune if Pyrra doesn't get resurrected somehow.
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>>2798622
Please don't reply to someone just looking for a fight.
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>>2798622
>Weiss or Ruby is likely to end up with Jaune if Pyrra doesn't get resurrected somehow
Besides Kara still rooting for White Knight, I get the feeling Jaune is going to remain forever alone. That insert song when he saw Pyrrha's statue makes me think that.
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>>2798626
Holy shit, how sheltered are you that you think anon saying it's unlikely WR and BB will both be canon is "looking for a fight"? Please go back to /r/rwby or tumblr or wherever you are from that is clearly not here.
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>>2798622
If we;re definitely not going to get a White Rose end - and, unfortunately, I don't think RT is going to make all 4 girls in team RWBY gay - then the best end would be Bumble Bee becoming canon and Weiss and Ruby going on "adventures" together because they're still "partners" without a single actual love interest in sight.
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>>2798647
>without a single actual love interest in sight.
They could pretty easily lean into lancaster or rose garden in the span of like one volume.
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>>2798649
Which would be awful
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>>2798650
I don't disagree, but until both Jaune and Oscar are dead or paired off with someone else, they remain potential threats of a het end for Ruby.
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>>2798656
I'm not too worried about Oscar. He's too young for any of the girls, is the host body for an old man, and besides hanging out with Ruby, mostly seems to interact with Blake or Nora the most out of the girls.
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>>2798659
Eh. Ruby has comforted him, and they trained together. I don't think Oz is all that much if an issue. He'll pass on anyway when Salem is defeated.

Penny showing up would certainly help Ruby out though.
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>>2798666
>don't think Oz is an issue
Considering he's gonna body snatch Oscar later he's an issue. Also defeating Salem has nothing to do with what the divine dicks tasked him to do.
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>>2798500
Honestly, I mostly want Bumblebee to happen just as a slap to all the naysayers.
Fuck 'em
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>>2798670
I wouldn't say that's any more of an issue that Yang's V4/V5 grudge, they are both just temporary seperation. It's very likely that Oz will depart with Salem, because the gods will almost certainly be involved, and the series is clearly not going to end with all of the world magically on the same page. They (Ruby) will convince Salem to let go and the gods will see it as a a sign that humanity is heading towards a better place, and they'll let Oz move on.
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>>2798675
I'm going to be pissed if it doesn't happen after all this set-up and teasing both in and out of the show. I'm not trying to go full blast Tumblr SJW shit, but at this point, it really would be a nasty case of queerbaiting.
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Arryn will be streaming on Unlocked this Saturday at 4:30 PST to discuss chapter 12. This might mean something major with Yang and Blake is going to happen.

https://twitter.com/arrynzech/status/1085719203301142529?s=21
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who is gonna spill the beans first?

>>2798683
the fuck is an unlocked?
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>>2798685
>the fuck is an unlocked?

Anime & Pop Culture Streaming Network.
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>>2798683
>discuss
Are we sure it's not her liveblogging the episode? I thought there was some joke comment on Twitter that turned semi-serious about it.
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>>2798688
Since it's reserved for people subscribed to Roosterteeth I kind of doubt she'd be liveblogging it.
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>>2798500
I mean, will that prove anything? Pretty easy to say you planned to do something after the fact. People often point to >>2798052 this line about monty saying they are kids discovering themselves, but then they forget that he literally said as part of that answer to if there would be queer characters:
>Maybe they're there now. Because, uh, they're kids so..They're-- we're on a path to try to help them discover themselves, so I mean- I don't think they even need to make that--we don't even need to make that decision right away, because WE are--as we write these characters we learn about them and kinda help them figure themselves out, they're very real to us. Um, so, y'know, we're definitely not opposed to it. I'm- a lot of us are for it, even. Like a few (laughs) I have some cast members, and some crew members who're like "this would be really cool"
>we don't even need to make that decision right away, because WE are--as we write these characters we learn about them
So even if M&K themselves go "Yeah we planned that from the beginning" all the shit in V1 and Monty's own words in V2 say that's a lie and they were just organically figuring things out.
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>>2798688
She was asked about a reaction video, and like >>2798690 said, I don't think she's going to show any footage of the FIRST exclusive ep.
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>>2798617
>unfortunately, I don't think RT is going to make all 4 girls in team RWBY gay
Fuck that shit, one big gay family or bust!
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>>2798807
To be fair, the statistical odds for all of them to be gay is pretty small.
In all seriousness though, if they ever confirm Bumbleby then RT would have fulfilled the gay "quota" and I think it would not be that unexpected for them to shoehorn in a het cp to balance things out.
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>>2799086
My prediction and hope is the same as >>2798647
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>>2798647
I don’t know if adventuring is for Weiss. Her main goal is to take back her family name; it’s hard to run a business if you’re out all the time.
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>>2799152
I think the best possibility would be Ruby pulling off some kind of stunt in the last fight that removes her from the story, only to have the last scene in some kind of epilogue be Weiss somewhere(like Summer's grave) and turn to an off-screen person with a smile or just saying "Ruby?". Leaves enough plausible deniability while letting people reach their own conclusions.

As much as I'd love WR to be endgame(more so than Bumblebee personally), I'll count my blessings if we at least get Bumblebee as canon.

I haven't really been following the thread, but does anyone else feel/hope Neo isn't going after Ruby as much as is setting up Cinder? Would be nice having Neo join the bright side.
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>>2799307
Neo's an enigma, she can't and has never directly said what she wants. We have no idea what her motive or goal is. Does she want to kill Ruby for killing Roman or does she want Ruby to be her new boss because she killed her old boss. The last one's kind of crazy but by telling us nothing the writers put almost anything in the cards.
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>>2799307
Yeah Neo knows, or is getting painted as if she knows, Cinder's full of shit with her weak manipulations. Likely looking for a better chance to gut Cinder and if Red ends up troubled then she doesn't care.
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>>2799322
She clearly just wants to get on with making Strawberry Shortcake a reality.
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>>2799322
>Neo's an enigma
I think we know enough through Roman that she just wants to survive; just like her former partner. Revenge may also be on the menu. It's hard to say for sure. Either way, sadly, I don't think she is long for this world. She didn't hesitate to try to murder Yang. She has already been set up to be just as bad as the other villains. More so than getting a full team of gay, I seriously doubt we'll get more than one redemption arc and we're already tied between Emerald and Raven for who gets a go at the one slot. Neo's best chance is valuing her life more than revenge and just escaping once she realizes killing Ruby/Yang just isn't worth it.
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Tomorrow is a big day for rwby /u/
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>>2799541
What's special about the day before the episode?
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>>2799554
Everyone fails to get any sleep?
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>>2798647
Yeah. I'm a simple anon with simple needs. I've loved White Rose ever since those first fanarts came out after their trailers released, all those years ago, but I never really expected it to become canon.

I'll be more than happy if Yang and Blake become an item and Weiss and Ruby just remain "ambiguously single" together. I'm already totally jazzed that they have moments where they act like an old married couple, it's more than I ever could've hoped for desu.
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>>2799818
Adam pulls a Gaston and goes over the edge of the waterfall. Yang and Blake actually try to save him from falling but he lashes out at them and falls to his death. Yang and Blake are stunned but are happy to be alive and embrace each other. Then, due to the waterfall, a mist forms around the area and as the haze engulfs them Yang and Blake lean in for what appears to be a kiss on the lips based on their silhouettes in the mist, thus emulating the Tryst in the Mist poster. This way all the movie posters foreshadowed something: the mecha showing up, the sea creature grim that's likely going to show up based on the blip on the radar and Jaune's comment, and the romantic moment between 2 characters in the mist.
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I found a comment online that makes me think that Blake could have alot of difficulty if she tries to start a romantic relationship with anyone, including Yang. But it's possible that RWBY staff will just gloss over it, since they most likely don't want to deal with the implications.

>Blake's involvement with Adam didn't start at the beginning of the series, it ended at that time. Per his character short, he was already garnering notice in the faunus community before Ghira stepped down, and we know from 1x16 that Ghira stepped down five years before the start of the series and became Chieftain of Menagerie.

>Blake says in 4x08 that she "should've left the White Fang" with Ghira and Kali, so she was still in the White Fang five years before the start of the series, when she was 12.

>5x05 establishes that Blake already knew Adam when her parents left the White Fang and in fact felt better about staying in the White Fang because Adam and Ilia were still there. So when Blake was 12, she left her parents to follow Adam, who was 18 and already a legal adult at that time. And from there he was able to groom her as he wished.
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>>2799847
I don't know if you can really say they glossed it over considering that that was her early arc, learning to trust anyone after getting out of an abusive relationship.
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>>2799857
This, although I would still consider it reasonable if Blake still had some leftover psychological fallout from it even after all the development she's had. I could go either way on this, honestly. As long as it doesn't manifest with her running away again, of course, because that would just be plain irritating at this point.
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>>2799859
I doubt she’ll run. Most of her screen time in V6 has been her trying to support and reassure her team that she’s here to stay. So while it’s understandable she would be hesitant to enter another relationship, I feel that’d just drag it on even further. Besides, having the show’s first faunus/human couple while in Atlas could make for some interest.
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>>2799838
>Blake reaching out to save Adam but he slashes her hand like Vergil at the end of DMC3

I want it. I need it.
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>>2799967
>Adam reaches out to ask for help but Blake just stares at him impassively as he falls
FTFY
It's high time one of the "good" guys actually acted like someone other than your average shounen protagonist.
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>>2799975
That's more than fine too.
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>>2799915
>Besides, having the show’s first human/Faunus relationship while in Atlas could be of interest
I was thinking about this earlier and I’m convinced that if BB is happening this volume, this is the reason why, so they can explore this particular topic.
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>>2800014
I'm so happy that I'm not the only one who thought of this. Poor Yang and Blake. Maybe Nora will offer to break some legs.
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>>2799975
Blake should just pull a Mufasa, or rather Scar, I suppose.

>Adam holding on to the ledge, Blake standing above him.

>"Help me, we're both Faunus, you wouldn't just let me die"

>"Long live Bumblebee" *kicks his hand off*
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Seems some Blacksun shippers are becoming toxic. One even blamed Barbara and Arryn for shipping Yang/Blake on Twitter. Barbara responded, but geez, it's not even happened and the fanbase is practically having a meltdown. And then there's the one where Blacksun fan went on long rant about how Yang and Blake will totally break up just so Blake can date Sun later in the series.
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>>2800073
It's kinda been happening for a while because of this volume's focus on them. I'm surprised it took them this long to become so visible
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>>2800079
It might have to do with us being so close to the season finale and the increased Yang/Blake hype due to last week's episode. Adam getting jealous, the handholding, the looks Yang and Blake gave each other, the Beauty and the Beast scratch on Yang's arm, the Tryst in the Mist prediction about them maybe kissing by the waterfall, etc.
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>>2800073
There is a great deal of irony in this post.
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>>2800089
How? I never said 2 characters would break up to make room for my OTP. And I'd never blame the VAs for shipping.
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>>2800092
Anon's trying to start a fight by pointing fingers.
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>>2800092
You, maybe, and you're a decent person for it, but everything in that post
>becoming toxic
>complaining about Barb/Arryn shipping (in this case because of "baiting")
>yelling at VAs on twitter about shipping
>going on long rants about how two characters would break up to make room for an OTP
is something thing Bumblebee shippers have done in the past. Except instead of Bumblebee breaking up V7+ to make room for Blacksun, it was people (in these very threads even) ranting in V2 and early V3 about how Blake and Sun were probably going to get together but would totally not get along and break up eventually so that Blake could date Yang.

>>2800095
There isn't any fight to be had here. I'm just pointing out that the pot is calling the kettle black. Pretty silly to call Blacksun shippers toxic for doing stuff now that Bumblebee shippers did in spades when they were in Blacksun's position.
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New thread?
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The most toxic people aren't Black Sun shippers. Hell, they don't even care about shipping. They just use BS as a scapegoat to support their argument about why BB shouldn't happen.
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>>2800146
When we hit page 10, as always.
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>>2800146
After tomorrow's episode
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>>2800150
I agree. There are a few BS shippers who take things to far because the show is going in a direction they don't like, but they are only a part of the larger negative reaction to BB. That said, I think we should all keep in mind that the online reaction is only a minority to the offline reaction. Most people who ship offline aren't as committed as those who vocalize their shipping online. The majority will support BB if it does happen. Not to say there aren't gonna be asshats who are bigoted or use bigoted arguments because they got assblasted, but the best course to take with them is to ignore them. They don't need the online community to give them a platform to stand on when most people just want to talk about the last episode/see the next one.
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>>2800146
This>>2800154
There could be something juicy in the new episode for an OP image.
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>>2800099
> Some fans did it before so we can not criticize now
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>>2800184
I mean, you can. But it's not really criticism when you contain it to an echo chamber on a yuri board. If you want to call them out on their bullshit, do it to their faces.

>>2800027
I'd laugh if a pack of Grimm wildebeests spawns out of nowhere to trample Adam when he falls.

In all seriousness, I'm mildly apprehensive about the fight ending in Adam falling off from anywhere, unless he lands on solid ground and his body is shown afterwards – it's very easy for RT to pull another Cinder if Adam doesn't die on screen. And they managed to successfully destroy his relevance to the plot, so dragging it out and adding another villain who'd just survived certain death and wants to get revenge on two of the protagonists seems like a bad idea.
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>>2800184
Way to miss the entire fucking point. I'm criticizing both of you, because there's no difference between the two. Bumblebee shippers and Blacksun shippers are the same. But it's especially bad when you not only forget that you're no different from them, but then as >>2800189 points out, basically try to pat yourself on the back over how you have to deal with them. Because that's really the only reason to post crap like >>2800073
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>>2800219
Chill out. I only posted >>2800073 since I heard about it today. I only started watching RWBY recently so didn't really know anything about the previous fandom stuff. I just thought it was relevant considering all the Yang/Blake developments this volume.
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>>2800219
The issue isn't really BlackSun shippers, it seems the possibility of the Bumblebee ship happening caused alot of people with anti-lgbt views to come out of the woodwork. People trying to say that if Yang and Blake get together it's purely just pandering and completely ignoring any interactions between the two that teased an attraction. Some are disguising it as BlackSun shipping, but what they're really trying to say is that they don't want Blake and Yang to get together and using Sun as a pretext of why it shouldn't happen.
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>>2800244
The fandom is full of shipwars. BB and BS are espcially bad about it, probably in large part because both have a significant following on tumblr and so drag the shittiest parts of into other places.

>>2800252
I think you are right, wrong and also a bit hypocritical. Yes, there are a lot of people that don't like Bumblebee, some of them are anti-gay, sure. But trying to play off any disdain or criticism for the ship or the narrative as "you're just being homophobic!" is insane, and really no better than the people on the other side claiming that the ship is happening just to pander. I am a yurifag. I have been in these threads since V1 when they first started showing up and the board, I ship yuri ships. And honestly, I can kinda see where they are coming from. It's easy to wear goggles all the time and then retroactively go "SEE! It wasn't out of nowhere they were teasing it the whole time!". But that's also because we spend the entire time looking for those signs and immediately assuming they are romantic. The reality is that nothing V1-V5 that Yang or Blake did was even a little out of the ordinary for good friends. Even if one of them had been a boy, It would have still just seemed like friendship, much like say, Jaune and Ruby's interaction. Which seems entirely platonic, but could in theory be taken the way lancasterfags take it.

When you aren't looking for the ship, it seems a bit out of nowhere. They were "friends" and then separated and Yang was angry at Blake, then they met back up and now a couple weeks later we're potentially an episode away from a full on kiss. I think you are over-attributing anti-gay sentiment to the equation. A lot of people who are anti-BB (I'm not particularly, it's so-so and none of my ships compete with it) are people who are put off by the ship's more toxic crowd, or just don't like the dynamic, or feel like it was pushed that direction by a loud fandom. Not people who hate lesbians.
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>>2800262
>The reality is that nothing V1-V5 that Yang or Blake did was even a little out of the ordinary for good friends
V1-V4 I can understand maybe, but even non-/u/ people started to catch on and suspect something might be up when pic-related happened.
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>>2800262
I think you've been on 4chan too long sis.
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>>2800268
She has a similar look when she sees Qrow's picture of her mother, and we get a similar look from Ruby over Weiss at the start of V4. That is kinda my point, anon. You watch that scene, and because you ship Bumblebee, you go "That's romance, no question." but if you aren't looking for that, it's a girl who's stuck between missing and hating her partner/teammate. Jaune and Ruby's hugs have a similar two readabilities. If you don't go decidedly romantic, the only real difference between blossoming romance and friendship is what the viewer wants to see (that's why CGDCT shows are so plentiful on /u/ even when most have no actual romance).

>>2800269
We're here forever.
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>>2800262
I went into the show shipping nothing until 3x11. I thought some things were cute, but I didn't seriously root for something until that moment.
>The reality is that nothing V1-V5 that Yang or Blake did was even a little out of the ordinary for good friends. Even if one of them had been a boy, It would have still just seemed like friendship
Of course, but an equal reality is that audiences can and will take several of those moments as romantically-charged. You can certainly say that having an important part of yourself hacked off by a girl's abusive ex-boyfriend trying to protect her is platonic, but media in general operates in a certain manner, and many viewers are going to raise eyebrows at such a scene, because they've been conditioned to interpret such devotion as something "more than friends". It doesn't help when one of the characters falls into a deep depression because the girl abandoning her without a word hurt worse than losing an arm.
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>>2800275
>media in general operates in a certain manner, and many viewers are going to raise eyebrows at such a scene, because they've been conditioned to interpret such devotion as something "more than friends".
I mean, do you also then consider Weiss x Jaune likely from the Haven fight where she's "sacrificed" to hurt him, and then saved from death by him? Both are very common tropes associated with a love interest as if the seemingly out of league girl changing her opinion on the loser. I wouldn't take any of that as romantic though. Cinder picked Weiss because she happened to be there and lended the most cliff hanger weight (with Ruby down already and off-limits), and Jaune saved her because they're on the same side and friends. Likewise Yang jumped in because a teammate was in danger. Would she have reacted any differently if it were Ruby or Weiss being stabbed?

You can't build out your relationships with such vague markers.. As really boring and bad as Arkos was, no one was going to misread, for example, Pyrrha looking completely crushed after she convinced Jaune to go out and give it his all with Weiss. It's completely unambiguous. And when you have in comparison, Yang happily handing off Blake to Sun at the dance you undermine the romantic interpretation of something like their talk in burning the candle. Because how do you read that talk or the ending "I'll save you a dance" as being genuinely romantic when she then has zero qualms about Blake being on a date at a dance with someone else the next episode?

It'd be so much easier (for all series) if they just went with the firm markers. If after Yang had walked away from Blake and Sun, there had been a shot of them dancing that cut to Yang looking a bit sad, with Ruby asking "what's wrong?" and Yang brushing it off as nothing, you'd have next to no one claiming it came out of nowhere. Just one firm, unambiguous thing is enough to tint the entire rest of the interaction, but creators always avoid it.
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>>2800287
*as is the seemingly out of league
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>>2800272
>She has a similar look when she sees Qrow’s picture of her mother
Either this is bait or it’s been a long time since you’ve seen volume 3 or 4 (depending on which instance you’re talking about). If you mean her seeing the picture in volume 3, her look is pure shock because she finally put 2 and 2 together that the person who saved her on the train in vol 2 was her mother and if you’re talking about the end of volume 4 she literally has no emotion on her face. In order for you to believe these scenes are comparable, then at best you just have a foggy memory and at worst you’re being disingenuous and a bait poster as mentioned above.

>it’s just because you already ship BB
Read my post again. This scene (and I mean the whole scene not just her looking at the picture, the “what if I needed her here for me?” part too) made a lot of people who don’t ship BB at the very minimum start to think Yang has one sided romantic feelings for Blake. Or are we gonna pretend a good portion of /co/ didn’t have an existential crisis when they realized there was a small chance BB might actually happen.
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>>2800290
Again, you are projecting the relationship onto it because It is what you ship. All three are just solemn looks, the only difference with the V5 is that Yang is sadder, there's nothing romantic about the scene, anymore than there's something romantic about Jaune tearing up when he meets back up with Ruby.

No one had an existential crisis, there was minor squabbling when people pointed to it as evidence that Yang was in love and other people disagreed. But you are somewhat proving my point:
>there was a small chance BB might actually happen.
Here is the core problem. It isn't a romantic scene, it's a scene with the potential for retroactive implication later on. Not "when they realized BB was happening" but the "chance" it "might" happen. Because if the next episode had paired up Blake and Sun and had a scene pushing Freezerburn closer to romantic, nothing about the photo scene would need to be changed. It would have just been Yang being depressed over her partner leaving and her abandonment issues, and V6, even if it were entirely unchanged besides maybe the final hand-holding scene, would simply be two partners making up so they could be good friends again. There's the problem. When you can pair off the two people with other romantic partners, and nothing they do (besides that end scene last episode) seems out of place or odd, that is because nothing about their interaction actually reads as definitively romantic.
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>>2800307
I'd like to point out I'm not trying to claim that BB came out of nowhere. I'm trying to illustrate why many people feel like it did, and why that's a totally reasonable perspective to have and it's largely the writing staff's fault.

Again, all of this is easily solved by just adding one moment of definite romance, because we apply that trait to other instances of interaction. To use Arkos as an example: None of the interaction between Jaune and Pyrrha in volume 1 is particularly romantic. It's pretty much all just them being friends. The sole reason why Pyrrha/Jaune is the most clear cut romantic pairing in the show (up until recent Renora) is because of the SINGLE line from Jaune in episode 2 about "finding another nice quirky girl to talk to", where Pyrrha is then shown. That one line then frames their entire interaction the rest of the show as romantic and Jaune being fairly oblivious to it. Without it Pyrrha could have just been a lonely gay girl who really wanted a genuine friend. That line and then the doubling down in V2 with the Weiss stuff, and then V3 with the kiss, set up and maintained that it was a romantic interaction.

As soon as you start doing that with female/female pairings instead of pussyfooting around the relationship and leaving it completely ambiguous for long periods of time, you stop having situations like LoK and this current one.
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>dissertations on whether there were romantic moments for BB
This was overdone back when Korra's finale happened. Can't wait for this to also get beaten into the ground because people dismiss an f/f ship's substance
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>Bumblebee: *Becomes canon with a quick kiss and hug*
>Anti-Bumblebee shitters searching frantically for something to downplay it: Wow, I can't believe they want their friends to die.
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>>2800314
>I’m not trying to say BB came out of nowhere. I’m trying to explain why many people felt it did.
You know what? That’s fair.
While I’d still argue that your whole “Yang sadly caressing a picture of Blake is equivalent to her emotionlessly staring at a picture of her mother” is a hacky argument at best, I get what you’re trying to say.
But to be fair, I’m in the same camp as >>2800275. I wasn’t really into /u/ shipping until fairly recently but I immediately recognized it as a valid way they could take the story as soon as 3x11 and 3x12 happened.
And since I’m not the only one, I’d argue BB actually has more in common with Zutara than KorraSami.
With KorraSami, LITERALLY no one saw it coming. Not the people who shipped it, not the people who didn’t.
With BB and Zutara, a large portion of people saw moments to suggest it while a bunch more didn’t. People saw Zutara as a pairing that just worked better and had more chemistry than the “default pairing”.
The only difference is it looks like BB is actually going to beat out the “default pairing” if last episode is any indication. But we won’t know until 5 hours from now so until then we’ll just have to wait and see.
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I hope if BB becomes canon that they decide to hide it from the others for now and we get cute scenes every now and then of them interacting when they're alone.
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>>2800341
This but I'd also love for at least one character to pull the "but we already knew, what do you mean this wasn't public knowledge?" reaction. It'd be funny if that was Weiss to contrast a totally blindsided oblivious Ruby.
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I'm excited for the potential shitstorm today.
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>>2800357
Sis, it's gonna be a shitstorm either way because they will either confirm BB or not, and both are going to stir the pot. But hey, at least it looks like Yang's semblance is back with that title.
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>>2800363
It's a saying about bulls, and Adam in particular even has a red eye.
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>>2800329
>Bumblebee: *Becomes canon with a quick kiss and a hug*
>Anti-Bumblebee: AAHH STOP FORCING THIS SJW AGENDA, MILES AND KERRY ARE LISTENING TO THE FANDOM, THIS WASN'T WHAT MONTY WANTED
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>>2800373
He has a blue eye and a giant burn on his other eye.
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>>2800395
Yeah, and his sclera is red.
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>>2800373
Yeah, but a lot of these titles have multiple meanings and seeing red can just refer to being angry in general.
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>>2800398
It's kind of a shitty metaphor when it only half-applies to a character.
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>>2800345
I'm sure Weiss knows. She saw them hold hands and was there when Yang cried over needing Blake. I think she can put two and two together.
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Press F to pay respects.
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>>2800441
To an incel?

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>>2800441
F. He was pretty cool.
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>>2800455
https://i.imgur.com/7FVXcus.png
>copy attacks from video game for a character
>copy death from the same video game for same character
Why can't RT actually make things?
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So Blake and Yang just killed Adam together by brutally stabbing him to death, then hugged with Blake promising to keep her promise to never leave Yang. Hopefully a kiss next episode for the finale, but that was an intense moment. Not necessarily a good thing, but murdering Blake's ex-boyfriend together really binds Blake and Yang together more.
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>>2800446
I liked his fighting style, so I think he deserves an F for that. I wish he wasn't such a terrible villain, would've liked to see more of him in future volumes.
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>>2800459
Remains me of the final of Hannibal.

But honestly, this episode was trash, was blandy and poorly executed, not only in bumblebee, but also in all the fight and Adam's death.
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https://rtv3-video.roosterteeth.com/store/4d331c24ed61952f18ef0c380df33754-c69b1cf5/ts/1547897525_index.m3u8

>>2800459
Yes, we saw the episode.

>>2800462
I feel like in their haste to make a cool death they kinda fucked up with Yang here. The whole point is supposed to be that she's not Adam and wouldn't follow in his footsteps of escalating violence, and then they had her stab a defenseless guy with zero aura, who had already been mortally stabbed, in the back. Kinda a mixed message.
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>>2800462
I kind of expected the Gaston death with Adam, but they did make more brutal than I was expecting leading up to it. Some people think he might still be alive, but Yang broke his aura when she activated her semblance and his wounds are likely too much to survive with him in that state.
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>>2800463
Now they can have Yang and Blake overcome their deep emotional trauma together.
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>>2800465
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3pMlKXAZWM

A death like Claudio Frollo also would be really cool
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>>2800465
Because he was never Gaston. He was always just based on the beast.
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>>2800463
>escalating violence
He literally makes killing blows against both of them this fight. Especially against Blake. Just because theirs successfully landed doesn't mean they were ones who tried to start killing someone. It was clear he was never going to stop trying to kill them. Blake was desperate and wanted to live. Adam had every chance to just walk away, even after the fight turned against him.
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>>2800468
The roles of who was the beauty and beast have switched as the show went on. Adam was the beast at first with Blake as the beauty. Then when Blake went sleep deprived she became the beast with Yang becoming the beauty to get her to live healthier. Then Yang became the beast in the tournament arc and has stayed that way due to her PTSD while Blake is trying to help her with it. Adam has been Gaston since the end of volume 3 and is also the cursed rose due to his rose motiff.
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>>2800469
Yes. Escalating violence. First Yang was fine with beating up whoever annoyed her, now she is okay with stabbing her enemies to death. Blake's actions were fine. Yang's were unnecessary. She had her moment of being the better, more reserved fighter, and then totally undercut it by stabbing someone who was already dead and couldn't do anything a second time.
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>>2800473
To be fair, she lunged at him at about the same time Blake grabbed her weapon. She did technically stab him after Blake, but it's not like she had enough time to react and change the trajectory.
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>>2800473
Yang went to stab Adam since he was running to stab Blake. She didn't know how that would play out so she reacted just in case it went bad. She did it to protect Blake.
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>>2800473
This was their fight, Blake AND Yang versus Adam. Just having Blake land the killing blow wouldn't have made sense and be unsatisfactory. Adam is Yang's demon too.
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>>2800473
>now she is okay with stabbing her enemies to death
this is just speculation. Adam is the only person she has killed thus far and only after he has tried, multiple times, to murder her and Blake.
>already dead
This is a world where killing someone can be almost impossible without superpowers. Adam tried to murder Yang and actively played mind games with her. In spite of this, Yang gives him an easy way out without any conditions. She only goes for a killing blow after a desperate fight for her life. Blake was the one who decided to go for a killing blow. Yang chose to support her in the act. Better he actually die than maybe survive and immediately try to kill Blake (again).
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>>2800471
They haven't. Yang isn't anything like beauty in any way. Blake is nothing like the beast in any way. This is the dumbest fucking meme ever.
>Well Adam is the beast and Blake is belle but then Blake is the beast and Yang is Belle and then Blake is belle and Yang is the beast and now Adam is Gaston.
Just stop. Being angry doesn't suddenly shift your entire character reference. And being calm again doesn't suddenly make you a character you are fucking nothing like. If you are having to switch roles a half a dozen times to badly fit characters into associations, they probably aren't actually associated in the first place.
>Adam is also a flower now because he has a rose.
This is honestly painful to read.

Adam is the beast. That is why he has horns, AND has a rose motif. And is physically disfigured by another, leaving him cursing the world. And why he is obsessive over a remnant of the past that is slipping farther and farther away.

Blake is Belle. That is why she is quiet and withdrawn, and tends to not be invested in the day to day things other people are worrying about, and is the object of a lot of desire, and loves books.

Yang is Goldilocks because that is her story and she has nothing to do with the references of the other two, and is nothing at all like Belle, or the Beast, at any point.
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>>2800481
>Yang isn't anything like beauty in any way. Blake is nothing like the beast in any way.
The lyrics for Red like Roses say you're wrong. Black the Beast and Yellow Beauty burns gold.
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>>2800476
She was also significantly farther from him and he was running at Blake. It was a directional choice. There would have plenty of time to not stab him, they just didn't even think about the fact that she really shouldn't.

>>2800477
Again. She had already beaten her demon. That was the whole point of her catching the sword, taking out his aura and saying that She was smarter. That was Yang's payoff for V3 (Adam even hamfistedly pointed it out). The stabbing was unnecessary.
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>>2800482
The lyrics to BMBLB say the ship's been confirmed for over a year or so.
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>>2800481
They gave Adam the obvious Disney villain death and even had him die in the same manor as Gaston by falling.
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>>2800483
>There would have plenty of time to not stab him
Rewatch that moment again. Her stab came a second later than Blake's. It's not enough time to stop.

>There would have plenty of time to not stab him
Now you're moving the goalposts. Is your problem with her stabbing him at all, or with stabbing "someone who was already dead and couldn't do anything a second time"? Because the former is fully justified, and that's what she was doing.
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>>2800481
A character can have multiple allusions. Arryn herself confirmed Blake is both Belle and Beast (because she's a faunus) and that Adam is not Beast. He's Gaston because he's possessive and feels entitled to Belle, tries to kill Beast, and he's also the rose because he cursed Blake's life.
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>>2800482
No, they don't. It isn't "Black the beast and Yellow Beauty burns gold."
It's:
>Red like roses fills my dreams and brings me to the place you rest.
>White is cold and always yearning, burdened by a royal test.
>Black the beast descends from shadows.
>Yellow beauty burns gold.
Do you see how they are two separate lines, that are part of four total lines, each about an individual girl? Is Ruby secretly the cursed rose, because "Red like Roses and the beast and yellow beauty burns gold."?

>>2800486
He died by being stabbed through the fucking chest twice. He fell into water. You literally cannot make a fall less of a fall to death than putting water right below it.

>>2800488
That's super cool I didn't realize Arryn was Monty. I guess he just mistakenly put all the shit in that very clearly shows that Adam is the beast.
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I honestly think RT was going for Adam's death to be a powerful, yet emotional bonding moment between Blake and Yang, but now alot of people are trying to frame it was Yang going down the slippery slope Adam did, which I don't think was RT's intention at all. So don't expect anything dark to come from it.
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>>2800488
>Blake is <...> Beast (because she's a faunus)
Not that anon, but this is just retarded. By that logic, every Faunus is an allusion to the Beast. Blake's story and personality is nothing like the Beast's.
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>>2800490
>but now alot of people are trying to frame it was Yang going down the slippery slope Adam did
Anything to discredit Bumblebee.
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>>2800487
>Rewatch that moment again. Her stab came a second later than Blake's. It's not enough time to stop.
That is what I said anon. It was a choice of directing. There was no reason for her to stab a second after, it should have been way later because she was farther away to begin with and Adam was moving in Blake's direction, away from Yang.

>Now you're moving the goalposts.
No I'm not. It is exactly what I said at the start:
>>2800463
>and then they had her stab a defenseless guy with zero aura, who had already been mortally stabbed, in the back. Kinda a mixed message.
Both are bad. The second one is even worse. It was bad for Yang who is supposed to be over her 'too hot' phase to be stabbing people to death. It is even worse for her to be stabbing people that don't need to be stabbed because they just got stabbed and also don't have a weapon.
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>>2800489
Yang got a Beast allusion just last episode by her getting the same scratch on her arm that Beast got in the movie.
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>>2800495
>every generic slash mark is the same injury
It literally isn't even the right number of fucking slashes.
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>>2800498
It is. It's four on both of them if the angle is right and you can see them all. Look at the comp images that are floating around online of them.
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Adam getting mad and wanting to know what Blake saw in Yang was one of the highlights of the episode for me.
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>>2800504
It basically cemented BB being endgame. He clearly sees Yang as a rival for Blake. You don't say that with platonic intention.
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>>2800490
I don't get how anyone could be thinking that unless they actually believe the whole "killing makes you just as bad" trope which I'm glad was avoided here.
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>>2800486
An important part of a Disney death though is that the heroes don't actually do the damage. That's the whole point, to not have children's good guys directly killing someone.
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So, new thread? Forehead touch OP?
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>>2800494
Please, the man stabbed Blake, chopped her arm off, then stalked Blake across Anima, and both of them still offered the guy the chance to leave which he didn't take and gave every possible indication he wasn't going to stop. Killing him is pretty damned justified here considering he went for Gambol Shroud to stab Blake with, it's not like he put his hands up and said I give.
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>>2800512
Well, if he somehow survived (unlikely but Cinder is still alive too) then it's subverted anyway.
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Med student comment I saw said that Adam likely got stabbed in the heart and left lung by the two stabs. So he's most likely dead for sure.
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>Cinder
>Frozen when she can use fire magic
>Dropped from a high ledge into a black abyss

>Adam
>Stabbed twice through the chest
>Dropped off a cliff which he repeatedly hit the side of on his way down
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>>2800521
That’s what I was planning unless someone’s already on it.
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>>2800521
Definitely
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>>2800595
Get on it sis.
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Episode title Seeing Red. reference. They were expecting us to think that Yang or Blake was going to die this episode.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeing_Red_(Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer)
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>>2800611
No, they weren't. It's a common enough expression. Or were they referencing fifteen different TV-shows at once?
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>>2800614
What's your problem? It can reference multiple things, like Adam being a bull and seeing red or Yang's eyes turning red from her semblance. But it's also an episode of Buffy where a girl in a relationship with another girl was killed by an unhinged guy wanting revenge.
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>>2800618
Yeah, I'm sure this very common idiom was a reference to an old TV-show. Also, at one point Adam says "you", and I can with 100% certainty confirm that Ted Bundy said a fair share of "you"s over the course of his life, so Adam confirmed to be an AU version of Bundy.

Not everything is a reference just because it has the same name. Especially since most of RWBY's audience is too young to recognize it, so they'd hardly "expect" anyone to think anything about it other than "guess it references the bull/Yang and Cordo's anger".
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>>2800611
Yeah, that's pretty common parlance. It just means getting extremely very angry and comes from bullfighting, where the matador would flourish a red cape at a bull.

Because Adam is angry and also a bull, see.

>>2800618
That's still considerably less obvious and more of a stretch to not only point to it as the primary reference, but even more so to extrapolate that it was meant to lead the audience to believe that Blake or Yang were going to die.

And strictly speaking, Blake and Yang aren't actually in a romantic relationship together, yet.
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>>2800620
If you're talking the moment Adam died he didn't say "you" he said "oh" like he had some kind of realization.
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>>2800623
I'm talking about him saying "you" to address someone who he was speaking to at any point in the show.

Anon, come on. You're taking the fun out of an ad absurdum.
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Reminder that Arryn's reaction stream to today's episode is supposed to start at 4:30 PM PST. So in like 3 and a half hours.
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New thread time.
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>>2800490
I've looked at tumblr and everyone's been praising the episode. And I honestly agree that the death was handled rather well.
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>>2799307
Pretty much this. I'm more into WR than BB, and have been since first learning about RWBY, but I don't expect WR to be made canon with nearly as much confidence I have in BB. An ambiguously single end and some more cute/emotional/memorable scenes between WR is all I can ask for, aside from a lack of a significant other for either.
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>>2800490
There's no way that can be taken as "Yang going down the same path."
Adam would have no-questions killed both of them if they hadn't done the same, and both Yang and Blake were demonstrably very much on the same wavelength when it came to whether or not to skewer him.
There is no excuse to let him live, and it's absurd to try to claim that Blake was any less involved than Yang was.





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