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Thoughts on this piece?
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Hit really close to home I think
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I’m a 29 year old kissless handholdless lesbian virgin and this manga absolutely destroyed me.
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Too pretentious for me despite being in a similar situation as her. Was expecting more yuri action instead of /r9k/ but whatever.
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>>2859011
It's gr8 m8
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>>2859026
>more yuri action
its autobiographical you fucking retard jesus christ
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>>2859011
"Get a life," was what I was thinking through the whole thing, as someone who also deals with anxiety, crippling loneliness, and depression.

You can call it autobiographical or whatever, but it wasn't a particularly enjoyable read and I didn't really feel enriched for the calories I burned processing it.
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>>2859026
>Reading an autobiographical work about loneliness and expecting a 120 page yuri fuckfest.
You can't make this shit up.
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>>2859011
Thought it would be trashy, but I really liked the autobiography aspect of it. Now I follow the series just to see what depressing shit the author is getting up to. Still waiting for the 3rd volume to be delivered.

Although I'm asexual, I can relate to her as an introverted person. If my family support system had been crappy I think I could have fell into depression easily and turned out to be a horrible person. It's fascinating to see other people wrestle with their demons. The author is only a few years older than me too.
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>>2859064
>>2859070
>my lesbian experience with loneliness
>it has 10% lesbian and 90% being a mentally ill fucktard
Bait title. If I wanted to read about being fucked up in the head I would write my own book.
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>>2859097
You couldn't have extrapolated from the title that it was probably going to document the protagonist at least being alone a lot and lamenting that fact?
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I love it, kind of thought about hiring a prostitute myself because I have like 0 luck with girls
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>>2859097
>sees the word lesbian in the title.
>automatically assumes the manga must be straight up porn.
>gets butthurt when it isn't.

Are you a 13 year-old boy or something?
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>>2859011
I feel bad for author
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a pretty solid introspective look into what actual clinical depression feels like.
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>>2859097
yes she is a lesbian and its her experience with loneliness
theres no percentages, shes a lesbian so its lesbian
youre actually fucking retarded
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There are 2 sequel volumes if anyone is interested.
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>>2859108
To be fair, the cover art.
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>>2859011
I own all three books and while I can't relate I do understand her troubles.
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>>2859011
I don't know if she was the first mangaka to lay out her issues, but she definitely struck a chord with a lot of readers who likely feel the same way, yet can't express it. The title is a bit strange. Is Loneliness a Lesbian?
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>>2859272
I always took it to mean that her lesbianism is inextricably linked to her loneliness.
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>>2859011
I read this as soon as it was translated and that page with the bloody dried instant noodles still haunts me to this day
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>>2859289
Huh, I don’t actually remember that.
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>>2859162
I've seen these in my local bookstore. I'm hesitant to buy them since I usually read my manga online but I also want to know what happened to the mangaka. Is it worth the buy?
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>>2859286
It's unlikely that interpretation was intended. The Japanese title was basically "Being too lonely I used a lesbian escort agency Report".
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>>2859011
>waaaaah i'm a lesbian
>waaaaah muh anxiety
>waaaaaah i'm so ronery
Incredibly boring and predictable.
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So is she really lesbian or just bi?
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>>2859414
I had always wondered about the translated title, since I remembered the title being translated as that before it got an official release. Creative interpretation?
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>>2859420
It's an autobiography about those topics. What did you expect, a plot twist where she becomes a magical girl?
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>>2859433
The English title was used for the Japanese tank. It's pretty common for manga to have an English title chosen (in addition to the Japanese) even for the Japanese release. Designers (who work on stuff such as logos and other presentation elements) apparently quite like to have them. They don't normally stick close to the Japanese unless there's a really obvious translation.
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>>2859436
>What did you expect
A worthy read.
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>>2859427
She explicitly states she’s only attracted to women.
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>>2859011
Read the first one way back when before it was published here. My depression was never as bad, but I could understand it and it made me feel a little more ok about it.
Haven't read the 2nd or 3rd books, but I was surprised to see one at my local library the other day. Was this more popular in Usonia than I thought?
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>>2859011
I dont like it and dont understand why it blew up so much. Imagine losing your virginity to a prostitute. Doesnt that make you feel like the biggest loser ever for the rest of your life? But she describes how she thought it would help her and then claim that it actually did. But how? And why is not having sex such a big deal for many people?
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all the responses you would expect from a board like this
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>>2859535
>Sex isn't a big deal.
>Losing your virginity to a hooker makes you a loser.

That's some impressive cognitive dissonance, even by 4chan standards.
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I am not even the same demographic but the book helped a little and I've felt better for the last couple years.

Life is good.
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>>2859664
Disagree. That's exactly the kind of cognitive dissonance i'd expect from 4chan.
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>>2859097
To be fair, it's just englishtards baiting the LGBT audience, the real title is completely different and honest. However the english title is still better than the one used in my country "My first time" that is utter bullshit trying to bait erofags.
For fuck's sake, it's not a story about lesbians or sex, those aspects only take some pages in one chapter, what the author wanted to convey is a completely differnt thing, yet this fucking publishers are just pushing the gay/sex part like it was the whole story. They really get me mad.
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>>2859711
>it's not a story about lesbians
idiot
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>>2859436
>plot twist where she becomes a magical girl?
Actually that sounds really good
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>>2859011
It's amazing, haunting, and far too relatable. It's almost cursed because even the things I thought thankfully didn't relate, ended actually happening to me.
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>>2859441
I always wonder if official translators have to avoid the titles a scanlation used. "The Private Report on My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness" is basically the same but adds a dash of much needed context.
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>>2859835
That's the English title the Japanese used on their release, which the fan translators then used. It was just deemed overly long.
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>>2859909
You got insider knowledge there anon?
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>>2859909
So it is. Funny that the english publisher didn't want to use the actual english title of the thing they're publishing.

>>2859946
It's on the japanese cover. Apparently easy to miss.
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>>2859949
>It was just deemed overly long.
I just meant about this
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>>2859015
Exercise, eat healthy, read books, go out, you can do it sister. Don't give up, come on!

I use to be like you.
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>>2859011
This book has everything to do with mental issues and very little to do with lesbianism. The western title is bait-like, and I couldn't really care about the author 's life who's shit by her own fault.
The second book talks more about her sexuality but she still has huge issues. At least she's swimming in money now.
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I read it for its focus on mental issues no the yuri.
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>>2859508
It got pretty good critical reviews. I'm not sure of the popularity, but it definitely has an audience.
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Is the second one good? I need to read it still. The first one left an impression on me. It was hard to get through some of the food parts, though, as someone who used to struggle a lot with binge eating.

I admire the author for being able to create manga despite all her problems. Makes me want to actually do something with my lame ass life.
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>>2859011
Never heard of it. Just read everything online.
Holy shit. I'm on the road to becoming this whackjob. I can't end up like her. THIS SHIT IS TOO RELATABLE WHAT THE FUCK.
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>>2860431
caufield effect
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>>2859026
I wouldn't call it pretentious, but I find the author very, very problematic. This girl needs a good psychologist, haven't seen such low self confidence even for the typical asian mc trope
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Wasn't there a sequel for this? I saw it exists, but there wasn't any place to read it
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>>2859011
It's about a bitchy whiner who can't get her shit together so she bitches about it in a manga for sympathy money.
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>>2860555
If she put that out there knowing the yen would flow in rivers, she is as crazy as a fox.
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>>2859011
Unironically, she needed a man in her life.
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>>2860543
There definitely is, it's called Solo Exchange Diary and there's a part 2 of that out now too. Definitely worth reading if you enjoyed the first even a little bit
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I feel like I've been in a similar situation before I found my current girlfriend, and this manga absolutely messed me up... but it also let me apprechiate what I have now and that makes me very happy.
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>>2859711
Are you Italian too, onee-san? Or have they used this dumb title in other countries?
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I just read it and loved it, hits very close to home.

Anyone know what brothel/website she used? There's a part in the manga where it says that she re-tweeted the place. I'd really like to know...for research.
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>>2860774
JPOP di merda look how they massacred my girl
https://twitter.com/hirari2010/status/1116292856086290432
Don't give them money and buy the japanese volumes.
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>>2862961
https://tiara.ms/
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Sooo given the book is a autobiography, is the author ok nowadays?
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>>2863403
As of Solo Exchange Diary 2, she's still a mess.

At least she can work and has a better understanding of herself and her family now.
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>>2859444
personally i found it rather enjoyable insight into how she was dealing with her problems and went through her own personal journey i get its not for everyone but i feel like it was a pretty good read about those topics
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>>2859711
In my country the title is "Another kind of solitude". But yuri manga aren't popular so no need to bait in order to sell.
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>>2862983
Wait, what's wrong with it?
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>>2859395
Eh depends she mostly just continues to wallow in depression

I enjoyed the original as I found it to be very
relatable with a lot of the descriptions of depression but also can be a depressing/ frustrating read.
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>>2859147
just because the title is not a lie doesn't make it accurate.
It would be like calling a story "My life as a diabetic" then have it be a sci-fi romance, and in the last page the protagonist says "Sorry, i can't eat this victory cake, i am diabetic. THE END"
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I loved it. Hit real close to home on a whole lot of notes. Was extremely refreshing and cathartic to see someone else struggle with trichotillomania, I mean fuck spellcheck doesn’t even recognize it as a word.

Also used to have really bad social anxiety and sort of an eating disorder (opposite of her binging though, used to hate eating altogether). Not gonna go on but it was ridiculous how many things I have in common with the author.

This book actually helped me quite a lot, emotionally speaking. I’m in a really good place right now and this book could very well be a part of what helped me turn things around.

>>2859535
It’s more common than you’d think.
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>>2859535
>Imagine losing your virginity to a prostitute. Doesnt that make you feel like the biggest loser ever for the rest of your life?
No
Why would it?
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>>2859064

Not that anon but I seet his classed as Yuri all the timeand I've always found that weird for the reason you just said.

>>2859097
>I would write my own book.

She wrote it so many people didn't have to (even if she didn't mean to have that effect), the book is fucking inspiring.
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>>2859420

It links these things with why and how she crawled out of the pit.
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>>2859535

Precisely the sort of attitude that gave her an inferiority complex
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>>2867546
>>2867548
>>2867551
You couldn't have just replied all at once?
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The first prostitute she sleeps with sounded amazing
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>>2859535
>And why is not having sex such a big deal for many people?

It's a very big deal to not be sexually active when all your peers are, especially in the late teens/early twenties. People treat you like less of an adult at a time when moving into adult roles is very important for both personal development and social status. It's a big deal because young people have scant little else to dominance sort themselves with.
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where the fuck are the solo exchange diary 2 scans
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>>2859011
>Thoughts on this piece?
"Nice blog m8"
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>>2859011
Very good
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>>2863054
do you think they would mind if a foreigner (who doesn't know japanese) would order their services?
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>>2859535
Depends on the prostitute. If it was an enjoyable experience with a friendly and sweet one like in the story, then why would it make me feel bad?
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>>2863054
>site actually uses the manga to promote their services
>the girls are bi and each of them wrote a whole biography with what they like, what they do and the services they offer (one of them won't put her fingers in her client)
>more than half of the courses are for men or het couples, and the LezBattle is for men only
>actual lesbians got the date option, bian(quick fuck) option, threesome option and rent-a-girl-for-several-days option
>still put LESBIANS everywhere
Fucking bullshit. At least they link to a lesbian only club. The one I saw in Kabukicho was better, though.
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>>2863054
Holy shit it's expensive!

>>2870310
As long as you pay and can give basic orders probably not. If you're East Asian I doubt it would make too much of a difference and if you're Caucasian they'll probably think you're super cute or something.
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>>2870333
>LezBattle
What's a lezbattle? It sounded nice until you said it's for men only, so now I assume it's disgusting.
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>>2870368
Men pay escorts to see them "fighting" and fucking each other. The one who cums first loose.
Clients can't participate or touch the girls during the fight, but they can fuck one of them after for 2 hours for the modest price of 3,500円.
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>>2870385
That's really weird.
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>>2870385
>but they can fuck one of them after for 2 hours for the modest price of 3,500円.
I think you must be misunderstanding the bit about the hotel price.
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>>2870396
Yeah, my bad, it's 3,500 for newcomers.
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>>2870333
>still put LESBIANS everywhere
well since the entire thing is obviously based around fetishization of lesbians for men, of course it would be that way
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>>2870333
>>still put LESBIANS everywhere
They use "lez" and they've got a note about the term, saying that since the agency isn't just for lesbians, it's better to take it as being the genre term used in the adult industry.
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>>2870418
Isn't the adult industry using lez only for strictly lesbian stuff, though? Or is it bian? Or there's no term for it at all?
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>>2870425
>Isn't the adult industry using lez only for strictly lesbian stuff, though?
How the adult industry use lez doesn't need to involve lesbians and is mostly aimed at men.

Bian is what some Japanese lesbians use as an abbreviation of lesbian because of how lez is used.
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>>2870393
Yeah I get why some would enjoy such a service it but it's still very WAT?! to me. It's such an awkward scenario to be in, even if it's hot
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>>2870439
"I need a really convoluted narrative nowadays to get off" -probably
there's a ton of other weird niche 'hands-off' erotic services for sale to tiptoe around japanese law, so it was inevitable for it to evolve into the draw itself.
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>>2870385
Hot
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I own all three. The first one was best in the way it was told. It was also by far the most interesting and had the more interesting parts of her life in it. The second and third are very different in their own sense. They change narrative style and also mostly talk about accepting success. The most interesting and good part about it though was that they are written as she's dealing with it. She disagrees with her old self in the third one and so on. It was also a lot more relatable for me. I saw so many parallels that it was disgusting.

I for one recommend it. It's not yuri. It's a lesbians way to deal with loneliness.
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>>2870487
wait, there's third part?!
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>>2870728
Solo Exchange Diary 2 came out earlier this year.
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>>2870960
is it anywhere online?
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I'm a guy and the part describing the logic behind "cutting" hit home hard because it was extremely similar to what someone I was in a serious relationship with had said about her experiences with it when she was younger.
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Thanks to https://twitter.com/reinyan00101
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>>2859011
Anime when?
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>>2870987
There's a summary here
http://okazu.yuricon.com/2019/03/29/my-solo-exchange-diary-2-manga-english/

I'm actually a bit surprised that the author seems to have mentally gotten worse but also not so surprised either.

A big part of her problem seems to be her struggling with social cues and adapting into society. I think it's pretty possible she's actually autistic
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>>2883062
Success doesn't cure mental illness.
I think the guy who wrote Welcome to the NHK stayed a hikki
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Pretty darn great. Hits me hard in multiple ways especially when she talks about her purpose in life
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>>2883105
Yeah, I can definitely see that the pressure of success has actually had a negative effect on her. Also, finding out that her idea of her family, that she actually wrote about in her work, was both wrong and hurtful probably was pretty crushing.

>>2883062
I don't know about autistic, but I think her lack of socialization has made it hard for her to understand people and has been compounded by her habit of over-thinking everything.
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I read it here back when it wasn't yet published in English. Very relatable. Have yet to read the last one but looking forward to it.

>>2883062
She really does seem to be autistic.
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>>2863733
Not Italian but they changed the titles from "X & Kase-san" to "Kase & Yamada: X.
US releases use "Kase-san & X".
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>>2859069
Thanks I'm cured.
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Apparently her last two books finally got a digital release.
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>>2859011
I hated it and don't understand what anyone saw in it.

The whining of a piece of shit human being.
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>>2860543
>>2860675
Solo exchange diary 1 is on the FTP, nyaa, and (chink) batoto. 2 might be on the ftp and if it's not i'm very sorry that I've failed you all.
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>>2859108
>>2859147
By that logic, most books are hetero romance novels even if there are two lines implying that the protag is straight.
Having a title and cover implying that it's a book centered on romance when you just have non-asexual characters would be just as misguiding.
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>>2859664
I'm not saying I agree but I could understand why someone could think that losing your virginity is not super important but that losing it to a hooker is still bad.
It's not really a contradiction, people thinking that being a virgin is so bad are often the first to suggest prostitution and someone thinking that this is not a big deal could still see someone that worked up about virginity to the point they use a prostitute as being pathetic,
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>>2870333
Were you really expecting a 100% lesbian agence? that doesn't make much economic sense.
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I’m not nearly as mentally ill as this chick, but this is still relatable in many ways. I’m really wondering what I should do with my life now. If escorts in my area are as good as the ones she got that might be worth a shot one of these days.

Also, what’s with women and cutting? Why don’t men typically do that?
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>>2901898
Because men are taught to repress their emotions and so they do until either learning to cope, or outright killing themselves. Cutting falls outside this because it's a visible expression of emotion and a cry for help.
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>>2870385
>>2870393
>>2870439
>>2870482
If I may offer two cents to explain this strange little theatre: it's an ancient Japanese brothel tradition called toichi-haichi, which boils down to Japanese men paying two girls to have sex with each others.

I'm not confident that it's related to itou hachi, however.
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>>2901993
That's old slang for lesbianism, and was associated with brothels, but I've not heard anything about the term being about something customers paid for.
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>>2901983
Cutting does also release endorphins, though, which can play a role.
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>>2859011
it seems like she was neglected by her parents but was still provided with food and shelter and whatnot, so the abuse wasn't obvious.
she needs to cut out all drugs, alcohol, soda, junk food, get lots of sunlight, exercise,

eat more vegetables and sharpen her social skills with acting exercises in a mirror and talking to random people more. and/or find some group or type of community to join.
maybe a mild antidepressant is needed, but she just seems lost.
also getting better with her hair and makeup probably wouldn't hurt.

reading this was soul-crushingly depressing and it was not entertaining to see someone in so much pain and clueless what to do about it.
the only way it could be satisfying to read would be to see her gradual self-improvement/self-discovery.
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>>2902798
The epilogue of 2 shows her cutting out alcohol. So good news there.
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>>2870425
Does the western porn industry use lesbian for strictly lesbian porn?
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https://multiup.org/8d5757053cc3428e22579f0df4ed0824
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>>2859436
I would read about a 30 something magical girl.
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>>2901983
>>2901898
I'm a dude and I cut when I was younger. I didn't do it on the wrists though, I'd do it on my thighs or near the shoulders or on the side of my torso.

It was a way for me to deal with things but I tried to do it in a way that was secret so that I'd never be found out. Because of this pretty much
>Cutting falls outside this because it's a visible expression of emotion and a cry for help.

Makes me wonder how common self harm is for guys, and if we're just less likely to seek out help or be found out. Or myabe I was just an outlier, dunno.
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>>2903147
I can’t get any of these links to work. I hate being a phoneposter.
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a pretty good look into how people with depression think.
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>>2903534
It's also on nyaa and the ftp and it'll be on batoto some time in the near future.
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I just read Solo Exchange Diary 2. Honestly felt line she was just flip flipping all over the place in that book, she has epiphanies and then flies back on them. Felt like 'depression filler' compared to there laser first two
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Kyoko Okazaki is better.
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>>2908793
She's great, but she did fiction while Kabi's narrating her own experiences. They're entirely different.
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>>2903147
Thanks.
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>>2859011
Girl if I read this i'll be intensely triggered. I can already feel the darkness that I go through everyday. Other than fbi bullshit. It feels better to read something either fluffy like kase-san or dark like WAHNW. Suppose it's for people who don't know what it's like.
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>>2859015
Sorry for double post but I am 21 and would get with you. I just dont know how.
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The prostitute part annoyed me, the author was such a moron it was painful. She borrows money from her parents for it and can't even ask the prostitute for what she wants, be hugged and comforted. She couldn't remember why she even went and called a prostitute and acted like a rape victim all along that separates their mind from their body. Also how can you make an appointment with a lesbian prostitute without knowing anything about lesbian sex or at least be prepared mentally and not act like a vegetable, make your 20k円 worth it damn. It was a fun and enjoyable read though. Prostitute was best girl and now I want to go see one.
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>>2912934
>It was a fun and enjoyable read though. Prostitute was best girl and now I want to go see one.
I take it you only read it for the prostitute part.
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>>2912934
desu, prostitute *was* best girl. i loved how gentle and understanding she was ;~;
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>>2913982
the prostitute in solo exchange diary v1 is bester girl
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>>2914277
oh man, then i guess i'll read that next after i finish the manga i'm currently working on :o
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>>2859011
I'm intensely alienated by the author's worldview despite otherwise being sympathetic to her situation. But hey, if it's autobiographical, at least it's meaningful estrangement that can provide food for thought. The drawing style is nice for the goal it has. No, the biggest issue for me is that it was painfully obvious that nothing fundamental had changed in the MC's life and personality to allow for long term change; becoming a mangaka was a useful first step, but it had yet to trigger the needed transformations.

And since it's autobiographical, well.. that means it was probably true for the author too, and she simply wrote that everything was going well now not to worry anyone and to feel like she was finally well integrated in society. At the time it seems she completely failed to criticize the cultural representations of what it means to be successful, to have a good life, and of her sexual and romantic orientation. I wasn't surprised at all to learn that things hadn't gone so well, that the second volume was more of the same, and that she had to suspend publishing her autobiographical strips for a while.

It's depressing, angering, and I don't thing one should read that when in a bad mental state: the worldview that oozes from it is awful and I can only see it reinforcing depressive ruminations. Iexpect what I read to ultimately better the reader, either directly or indirectly after the reader thought about for a while, but this... it manages to do the exact contrary, it pulls you into its gravitational well whose center is a black hole of cognitive schemas that underpin depression and anxiety.
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>>2913602
That's the title of the manga, so yeah it got me curious. Though once I was in I binge read it and enjoyed every panel. I love how she images her views of the world, as fucked up as they can be, and I how I can relate to some stuff. Thanks to this manga I'm now convinced some people just aren't meant for normal "society" and never will be happy in it.
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>>2859011
boring




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