Fanfiction threadOld: >>2814001Someplaces to ficfanfiction.netarchiveofourown.org>An archive of fics compiled and shared by a kind anonhttps://mega.nz/#F!oaphAAaZ!6FnZFfH2f-Vx5d9A47pSowPost links to fics and discuss them and fanfiction in general. Link fics you like, your own stuff, anything goes as long as it's yuri.
That feeling when you are on the fourth rewrite of a chapter.
>>2889518I'm getting bored with rewriting this chapter now. This time I'm gonna make sure it's so fucking good the beta reader gets back to me immediately and says 'just post the fucking thing - it's great'.
>>2889527Does that ever happen?
>>2879350Meh, I used to kinda enjoy it but not anymore. A shitton of unnecessary OCs to the point of being self indulgent. Not a fan of making everyone gay for the sake of it, breaks my immersion. But the biggest problem for me is the cases of complete tonal whiplash that occur a lot thorough the story. Like when Jaina was presumed dead, instead of resolving the plot point and emotional build up in a satisfying climax, it spends a whole fucking chapter on Jaina fighting crabs. That was when I went "the fuck" and just lost any interest.
>>2890908The OCs made me unable to get through even half the first chapter, especially since Sylvanas was basically unrecognizable character when interacting with them.
>>2890915Yeah, that too.
>>2890908I could tell you were talking about LR without even checking the post you were replying to. LR a shit and I don't understand how why it gets all so much praise.
>>2890943It's the longest and pretty much the only regularly updated Sylvaina fic. It was also one of the first fics in the new wave of WoW fics. It has no competition at the moment.
>>2890946All valid points, I guess. But LR gets undeserved praise for quality, not quantity or popularity.>[LR] potrayes Jaina/Sylvanas beautifully. Lore, plot tags [meaning both are good?]is overly generous to put it mildly.
>>2890956Oh right, bad reading comprehension on my part.
>>2890908>Not a fan of making everyone gay for the sake of itI never thought there could be a thing as too many lesbians, but here we are. EVERYONE is a lesbian in this fic. MCs are lesbians. Canonically straight characters are lesbians. Minor side characters in canon are lesbians. OCs are lesbians. I still enjoy it though
I've been on a massive Jaina/Sylvanas binge the last few days. Give me your best. So far I've read:-Increments of Longing (my favorite)-Last Resort-threads of silk-Two Rooms-Falling seriesBasically I'm looking for anything with good prose. Nothing modern AU or anything too out-there AU
>>2891061Word of caution, both haven't updated in months, but I very much enjoy "Timeless" and "On My Mind (Slightly to the Left and Back)". There's big emphasis on magic in both of fics, describing how it works etc., which is interesting, there's scope and overarching plot (though quite different in both) and slow burn. Gentle Sylvanas redemption also present.Though, in "On my mind..." there's one thing that doesn't sit quite right with me. It's that Sylvanas becomes way too weepy, too fast. Redemption is an important aspect in those fics, but in my opinion the "getting back my emotions" part happens too soon.
>>2890908>Jaina fighting crabs.Like monsters or pubic lice?
>>2891112Regular crabs, little fuckers that live in the ocean.
>>2891112Normal ones, anon forget to include that Jaina was like a breath away from collapsing from exhaustion.
>>2891124Didn't want it to get too convoluted. Point is, that whole segment was completely unnecessary and dragged out, it thew any sense of pacing and structure through the window. Of course there's an OC inserted as well. There's this sense of urgency happening in the previous chapter, you go to the next one expecting all that build up to payoff and then BAM wacky survival shenanigans! It should've been completely omitted. What could've been a powerful conclusion to the midstory ended on a wet fart instead.
>>2891088I've actually read both but didn't like them. I never played WoW so I had no idea what was going on in Timeless with all the Void stuff. As for On My Mind, I thought the prose was clumsy. Also 2 chapters in and the main premise of the story wasn't even introduced>redemption>implying Sylvanas did anything wrongseriously what did she do? I've played WCIII and last time I saw her she betrayed Arthas and was killing Dreadlords left and right
>>2891145>spoilersNothing though people love to have this idea that she was directly involved with Wrathgate when that whole thing was a decoy and the player had to help her and some other leaders take back the Undercity from Scrub King.>>2891141>ConvolutedConvoluted nothing it's part of the context.I'll, however, agree that it could've been placed better. Possibly more of a flashback chapter or something instead of directly following it.
>>2891145She was always kinda shady, though not excessively so, in WoW. The worst thing I remember her doing was the invasion of Gilneas where the Warchief declared war on Gilneas then ordered her to have the Forsaken do the job, she basically went 'fuck losing all my soldiers' and threw blight-lite at the doggies instead which was pretty gruesome. Most of it seems to be BfA-isolated stuff though, I haven't actually played since WoD - no way Blizzard can get me back after the shit they pulled there - but from what I hear she's basically a cartoonish villain at this point.
>>2891145>I thought the prose was clumsyWas it really? Care to elaborate, I'm curious? For me every scene was very easy to imagine and follow.>seriously what did she do?In the latest expansion Blizzard made her commit war crimes, some more and some less forgivable. She's pretty much ireedemable at this point. I think Blizzard is taking the Lich King route with her.
>>2891152>Possibly more of a flashback chapter or something instead of directly following it.Yes, yes, exactly!
>>2891157It's always hard to describe why prose is bad, and On My Mind isn't terrible. I only read two chapters, and there were way too many boring action scenes without any weight behind them. Pure description of action is NOT how you write action. Pure description of action works in movies and comics/manga, but words on a page can't convey what pictures can.Some of the dialogue - in particular the in-battle dialogue - is awkward and unrealistic. Also there was PoV switching, which is always an annoyance. The second chapter switches from Sylvanas and Jaina and even Nathanos. Never switch PoV without a pagebreak. Ofc there are exceptions but this one ain't one of them. Overall prose just felt very amateurish. Full disclosure: I have high standards for prose, and I don't lower them even for fanfictionIn terms of prose, Increments of Longing is the best of the bunch. threads of silk, Two Rooms, and Last Resort (for all its other flaws) are all similar. Falling series is fine too but borderline purple at times
>>2891155Bofa is shaping up to be MoP2.0, and despite their constant naysaying, Blizzard is doing a bang up job turning Syl into Garrosh 2.0. The only saving grace so far seems to be Azshara because of all the little things in her raid.
>>2891177>I have high standards for prose, and I don't lower them even for fanfictionThis is completely acceptable and should be the norm. At least fanfiction shouldn't get a pass on evaluation compared to any other literary medium. We can read and enjoy stuff while still being objective.>In terms of prose, Increments of Longing is the best of the bunch.This. I'd even go futher and say that Increments is the only one that manages to portray their relationship beautifully, as that anonne from the last thread put it. The prose is damn near perfect in its minimalism - no time is wasted on any needless descriptions, we only get mentions of material stuff when it immedietly concerns the characters and even then it's only a word or two, which of course makes the few moments when we do focus on someone or something all the the more striking and impactful. There are several established and oc characters active through-out the story, but these too do not overstay their welcome nor usurper any scene or plot-thread. We have our main characters and the everyone else is firmly in the background supporting role. The plot's very tight. No Old Gods or Void-thing-ancient-evil demons get entangled up here. No epic adventures, no legendary stakes. Just two strangers in the middle of political maneuvering against a looming war.I could go on but my point is that nothing else I've read manages to focus and deliver on the relationship aspect as Increments does. Not that it doesn't have problems but the story plays on the strengths.
>>2891210>>2891177Thanks for your input. It was educational. As a non-native speaker some things that may be obvious to a native feel abstract to me. Too bad that the premise of IoL doesn't grab me at all. Not a big fan of pre-death Sylvanas, with Falling being the exception because it was set in the canon universe.>>2891177I was actually impressed by the action scenes! They felt appropriate?>>2891210I don't think descripting things in detail is inherently bad. Depends on what you like. I'm one of those people (probably the minority) that appreciate detailed descriptions. Maybe because I'm not a native speaker I put less focus on the style and more on the substance?
>>2891236>non-native speakerTrust me, it's not something native speakers or even native-speaking casual readers will notice. Prose is something pretty much only other writers and literary snobs take notice of. The vast majority of readers put substance over styleAs for action, writing is a poor medium for portraying action. You could be the best writer in the world, and any action you write won't compare to a single second of a movie fight scene or a comic book panel. Any long passages of action will inevitably feel inadequate. The solution is to not write pure descriptive action but use it as a tool for charaterization, thoughts, etc. >>2891210Got any other recommendations I haven't read already (>>2891061)? Have you read the sequel to Increments? I've been wary since it's OC
>>2891247>>Prose is something pretty much only other writers and literary snobs take notice of.Like ending a sentence with a proposition?
>>2891248no, if anything that's grammar, and extremely outdated at that. It's perfectly okay to end a sentence with a preposition
>>2891236>I don't think descripting things in detail is inherently bad. Naturally. In the case of Increments however, minimalism adds to the story. The subject matter is rather intimate and keeping the prose tight and the narration focused solely on and driven by Jaina helps create an intimate atmosphere. It makes the reader feel as if they were right there with Jaina, a little daemon on her shoulder not quite privy to her thoughts but who's still closer to her than any other character. It's a harmony of form and function.
>>2891247>As for action, writing is a poor medium for portraying action. You could be the best writer in the world, and any action you write won't compare to a single second of a movie fight scene or a comic book panel. Any long passages of action will inevitably feel inadequate. The solution is to not write pure descriptive action but use it as a tool for charaterization, thoughts, etcI understand what you mean but I don't think literature should only be about feelings. Don't you think the scene has to be set and things need to happen to put protagonists in this or that place? How can Jaina and Sylvanas find themselves in close proximity to each other when they start a few hundred meters away? I don't mean to be confrontational, I'm genuinely interested in how to get to that point in a satisfying way without telling the reader what went down.
>>2891260Truncate it. If you need to show a battle, don't tell us everything that happens in detail, which is what happens in On My Mind. The 2nd chapter is an excruciatingly detailed battle scene where even no-name grunts get dedicated paragraphs
>>2891268I must disagree. Even the nameless grunts serve their purpose. For example, a big tauren was mentioned because Sylvanas used him to approach Jaina without being seen. Alliance mages started overpowering Forsaken so Sylvanas had to abandon her previous position to support her troops. Kul Tiras soldiers' morale is shown to be wavering in Jaina's absence. A lot of those things relate in one way or another to main characters or directly affect them. For the most part it's pretty simple case of cause and effect.
>>2891292whatever floats your boat. I found it tedious, unnecessary, and clumsily written
Why does every Sylvaina fic shiptease Jaina/Vereesa?
>>2891396explain further, I have no idea what the relationship between them is
>>2889027I have this idea of printing out old fanfiction and binding it into a proper book format, so I can have something physical to pass down.What do you think?
>>2891420It's cool to have physical books to fiddle with.
>>2891420It's a good idea, I remember in Life is Strange general some anon collected his favourote Pricefield fanfics and fanarts and got them printed as a book with a beautfiul cover he'd designed. So yeah, I think it's worth doing.
>>2891420It's a good idea. Too many fics are now lost beyond recovery.>>2891598Did he post pics of the finished volume?
>>2891606Yes, I tried to find it in the archive but to no luck. It's been a few years
>>2891606>>2891765Ok, just found it.>So I made this to cope with the ending of episode 4 and to honor all the great fanfiction out there. A collection of all the Pricefield fanfiction. This is only the first volume, I'm working on putting together a second one right now. This one has about ~325 pages. It's a small font though, all in all about 380k words.
>>2891768>sfm softporn screenshots inna bookUhhh, are you for cereal?
>>2891770There's nothing softporny about that screenshot.
>>2891790There's nothing ok about putting screenshots inna book even if there's nothing softyporny about them.
>>2890908I like it, but I also know literally nothing about WoW, so I'm not entirely sure who the OCs are.
>look up 'loli harem' in AO3>futa or het
>>2891948Exclude tags exists
>>2891974I mean that literally ALL of the series listed are futa or het. Excluding those tags will end up with 0 results.
>>2891977Well don't have shit taste maybe?
>>2891978>wanting yuri loli harems is now having shit tasteIt would be if I accepted het or futa in it.
>>2892067The loli part is the shit taste part, beyond the obvious. It's like that kink is filled with nothing but garbage and it brings down everything.
Any good original works?I've tried looking even on wattpad but it's like shifting through trash.
>>2892108Try asking the /lit/ thread if you get nothing here.
>>2891061Can't believe nobody has mentioned them, but lacrymosa and its sequel lithium were great.The wind that shakes the undergrowth was nice, if a bit short and felt kinda rushed.https://archiveofourown.org/series/1240448 was solid, though it seems to have been dropped.https://archiveofourown.org/series/1254590 is worth mentioning but it is NOT good prose.Honestly there's not a lot of material out there so it's pretty easy to plow through it all without even meaning to.
>>2892295>lacymosais this actually good? The author doesn't seem to realize you end quotes with a comma, not a period
>>2892566>author's notes:>“Lacrymosa”>EvanescenceGuess.But more seriously, while the central premise was fine - two women who have both lost nearly everything don't want to let each other go when they probably should - unsurprisingly it's the execution that's lacking. If I remember correctly then instead of focusing on that central core the author attempted to weave the pairing into the canon story-line which results in very disjointed chapters of very small moments all over the place where it's presumed that the reader is familiar with both of the characters' backstories and can easily fill in the gaps of time, events and characters. Also, the chapters are very short almost substance-less beside the Point of the Chapter. It feels like one of those dumb "prompts" stories one may fine from time to time where point is to go wacky and put some characters into new, interesting and unfamiliar situations. Only here the author doesn't do wacky or out-there stuff, rather they are just thinking of regular relationship stuff with the established lore as a rigid backdrop. >'Ok, I've got the 'it's complicated' out of the way in the first chapter, now what do I want to do? Ooh, I know! The first meeting after the Second War and the loss of the Expedition. Then, umm, the creepy male admirer Prince Kael. A bath scene. A fight over a Plot-point in Patch 8.1.' And etc.The chapters feel just that random. It's almost not a story, rather series of scenes with a theme and a needless and perplexing adherence to an expansive canon that I suspect the author probably still butchers when it comes to the older stuff over the more recent BFAish one.also, this picture is plastered everywhere
>>2892648I have similar sentiments also the banners that the author uses remind me of mid to late 2000s internet. It's so campy.
>>2891247>Trust me, it's not something native speakers or even native-speaking casual readers will notice. Prose is something pretty much only other writers and literary snobs take notice of. The vast majority of readers put substance over styleCasual readers will notice as they stumble over the disfluencies and wrongness, but they don't tend to be able to identify the issue beyond 'I don't like it for some reason' or 'it's boring' or 'something isn't right about it'.Hell, I know what I'm doing and I still can't diagnose the actual malady half the time. If a passage 'just doesn't feel right', it's probably a technical issue with the prose. (Or pacing. Pacing is so easy to screw up without noticing.)
>>2892648>>2892735Read 2 chapters of lacrymosa, it's alright. Undeniably cringeworthy with those Evanesence youtube links and lyrics at the end of each chapter. Writing-wise, I dislike how Jaina and Sylvanas already start off as lovers. We're given no reason why they should care so much about each other
>omegaversewhat the fuck is this
>>2893000A pile of deviant fetishes taped together in the form of a setting you can slap onto other settings. Great setting if you like the kinks, but incredibly rarely /u/ relevant.
>>2893000I envy you.
>>2893000I remember accidentally encountering this looking for CamillaHinoka fics for the first time a few years ago.
>>2893005>but incredibly rarely /u/ relevant.To my eternal disappointment. I also accidentally got into rwby fic this week and I’d forgotten how much I hated the modern virtue signal of making innocent characters ‘queer’ while I’ve been out of western fandoms.
Considering getting into new franchises based entirely on how much enemies to lovers slash there is out there for them because I've exhausted all the ships in the stuff I actually follow.This feels like crossing a line.Recs? If there's no "to lovers" involved and they still hate each other while doing the gay all the better.
>>2893623The main ship in OuaT is cannon enemies to friends, so most of the stories are begrudging friends to lovers.
>>2895844Oh yeah, I forgot about Cheryl. Pretty much any story with her and B and/or V will be enemies to lovers.
>>2896090The one thing that annoys me about Riverdale fics is that I never bothered watching season 2 and I don't know who the fuck Toni is and I really don't care, but 99% of the Riverdale fics are now ChoniClassic ships or bust
>>2896172Thats really dumb brah.
>>2896172Yeah, that'll happen when they introduce a cannon f/f relationship to a show. All you really need to know is Toni's a south-side hood rat.
>>2898530Longer than the entire Harry Potter series at this point. One of the chapters alone was close to the word count of the entire first HP book.
>>2898632I admire the dedication, but jesus christ that is a lot of time spent. I've been writing fanfiction for 10+ years and I have 250k words logged
>>2898515What the Fuck is Going On: the Chapter, the Episode, the Experience.
I think your image is beautiful. Thanks for sharing
>>2898515You would need to clear a day in your schedule to read all that.
No Precure thread to discuss it (and I'll be damned before I go to /a/'s), so might as well do it here.What the fuck happened there? We got dumped like 4 or 5 plotlines there.
>>2898845I am not completely done yet but so far it looks like everyone is dealing with crazy fallout from the maskerade and going verified bonkers. I'm going bonkers too because I can't keep track of yet another dozen plus names.
>>2889027Why is there so little Simoun fanfiction? You'd think with how much lore and backstory there is, there'd be plenty of fanfiction, but no. Almost nothing.
>>2899192You forgot when it came out and also how complete the plot was.
>>2899192The characters don't really have many hangups left to explore or write about. A couple major yuri series have this issue. Even if it wasn't perfect in other regards the relationships were well handled enough that it's simply more satisfying re-watching the show.
>>2898845>>2898886Okay, I am still not done but what the fuck. Everyone is losing their mind and so am I. Is this gonna end with everyone dead to make space for the new seasons?
>>2898515Help, I'm Writing Incompetently and Can't Stop: The Fanfic
>>2899403You don't know what you're talking about
>>2899403More like Incoherently.
Wrote an alternate end fic for The Traitor Baru Cormorant. Out of humility I won't link it here, but it's posted on the AO3 section for Baru. I highly recommend the entire section to anyone who's read the book. Never have I seen such a high density of excellence in fanfiction. There are 14 fics posted, 12 of which deal with the first book, and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM is great (my favorite is Ripples). The other 2 fics are M/M, which I didn't read, but I'm pretty sure they're great too if that's up your alley. Seriously I have never encountered a fandom where every single fic was amazing. Reading the happier ones certainly helped me get over the gut-punch that was Traitor's ending
>>2899403>>2899771Considering who the author is, she probably did have a stroke while writing it.
>>2900756Explain why it feels I had one while reading. It was picking up cataclysmic plot lines and dropping them just like that.
>>2900830characters are going insane and experiencing insanity episodes. What are you even talking about?
>>2900833>Princesses returning>this spooky entity which may also be the reason the Princesses returned>general insanity>system failing>the area being somewhere on Earth>the Prison of the First Cure>Cure EchoAny of those would've been an entire chapter by themselves
>>2900836The princesses returning is definitely just maskerade insanity leaking through. Remember that Windy sealed that all up, but sealed don't mean gone.>spooky entityI don't know what's up with that yet, but that is definitely setting up for this arc's big bad, like Nightmare was>general insanity and system failingI am thinking these are connected. Like the system shut down to protect them from their own insanity.>somewhere on earthI disagree hard. This just means one of two things. One, Echo lied, two, the dark cure space is way bigger than anyone thought>prison of the first CureI am thinking it was actually Echo or Eternity sealed up there, IF that was even a thing that happened in reality and not just in dark Miyuki's headAll this shit ties together somehow, I just know it. I just don't know how yet.
Has anyone read the fanfic "I'm getting older too" by Epccjl If so, does anyone know in which chapter Santana and Brittany have their first time?
People deleting their work is the bane of my life and should be banned.
>>2901118What about people who delete their works because it suddenly, or eventually, became problematic/not worth it to have them up?
>>2901120RL backlash is the only wiggle room I'm willing to commit to.
>>2901124And I still think you should probably just orphan them or archive them at least.
>>2901120I hate that it happens, and that I can understand why they would feel it's problematic to keep a work of fiction up for people to enjoy, but I don't hate the authors themselves.
>>2899761I know exactly what I'm talking about, neckbeard. This thread went to shit back when Vocaloid was popular because Kuugen, Nuclear Eggs (or whatever idiotic name she's using nowadays), and their gaggle of three or four fanboy retards (including you) samefagged it to the point of nausea with glowing reviews claiming what great writers they are and how significant their stories are. Newsflash: they're not. So fuck off.Also, thanks for ruining this thread for anyone to talk about anything Vocaloid that isn't related to either of the above-mentioned hacks. You fuckers even ran Fliers into the ground.Also, re >>2900833 and >>2900842, quit trying to defend the indefensible, Mr. Tryhard McAutist. You're only making both your lack of knowledge of what constitutes competent writing and your general shit taste all the more obvious. Get a clue that when you tried to shill for your pet author, you're the only one praising her. Coincidence? I think not.
>>2901814imagine arguing with someone you've never met over a lesbian hentai thread
>>2901814So how about you post some stories, instead of bitching about bullshit.
>>2889027Anyone got any Mass Effect recs? I just want a good fic that's as well written as this. https://archiveofourown.org/works/18922429?view_full_work=true
>>2901919Of Sheep and Battle Chicken?
>>2898632>longer than Harry PotterNot yet. HP has 1084170 words.
>>2901919>Anyone got any Mass Effect recs?I'm a fan of RaeDMagdon's and Revans_Mask's stuff: https://archiveofourown.org/series/25567https://archiveofourown.org/series/46635https://archiveofourown.org/works/13840395They're both smut, but it's fun, fluffy, well written smut.There's also Queen's Gambit, but that hasn't updated in years: https://archiveofourown.org/series/821751
>>2901919It's not really a shipfic per se, but it's pretty good and also quite gay, femshep/Ashleyhttps://fanfiction.net/s/12649838/1/EncroachmentThe author also has a couple of shorter stories that are also nice
Anyone got any Watamote recs?Just decided to read the manga after remembering the anime exists and, damn, the manga is still ongoing and has a lot more content, in that Tomoko gets more female friends and there is quite a few possible couples.Plus, Ucchi is canonically interested in Tomoko and her relationship with Asuka is...suspect to say the least, making me wonder if there is any Watamote yuri fics.
>>2902073>>RaeDMagdon's and Revans_MaskYes!! Love their fics! Although, I really wish they did more clone femshep ones.As for Queen's Gambit, I'm hesitant to read for it being so long and incomplete. Can I ask you if it's still worth the read? On another note, Thank /u/ all for the suggestions!
>>2902283>As for Queen's Gambit, I'm hesitant to read for it being so long and incomplete. Can I ask you if it's still worth the read?IMO, unfinished stories are never worth the read, since the ending is such an important part of the process.
>>2902283>clone femshep ones.Does anyone ever do anything with clone femshep? Preferably shipping her with the original?
>>2902409how can anyone be this wrong?
>>2902409unfinished stories are only not worth the read if they've not updated in a a good long while.
you guys are dumb. Some of the best fics I've ever read are unfinished.
>>2902409I, for one, prefer captivating journey over destination.
>>2902754What's the point, when the last step is in quicksand?
>>2902420I probably should have clarified that I meant permanently unfinished stories. I'm fine reading a story I'm sure will be eventually finished, especially if it's long enough. There are a bunch of stories that haven't been updated in 3-4 years and probably never will be, that I just can't bring myself to read because I know I'll just be disappointed when I get to the cut off point.
I just finished reading this, and I heartily recommend it. It's complete. https://archiveofourown.org/works/17734931"Silent Partner, Unfinished Business" - Death Note
>>2902758Personal preference, I guess. Good/bad ending or lack thereof does not have to define how much I enjoy reading particular work.Some stories are abandoned few very short chapters in, some few hundred thousand words in, what enjoyment I get out of reading up to that point is mine to have. There are a lot of abandoned works I go back to reread pretty often, but I understand why some people prefer to avoid them.
>>2902908>first person narrationscared.jpg
>>2889027Why is there so much spic fanfiction of ShizNat?They're not even canon and yet half the fanfics are in Spanish.
>>2901814I agree with you but at the same time it was quite literally six years ago when it was at its peak, back when Kuugen and Nuclear Eggs' 'big stories' were being updated. Kuugen does get occasional refreshes of relevance due to her Neptunia stories, but the annoyance I had back then had worn off since we've had six years of non-Vocaloid faggotry.
>>2904200It's more about Girls and Panzer now. And Pretty Cure. In any case, that guy is literally shitposting.
I keep wanting to ask but I keep forgetting, has anyone come across a /u/ fic set in the John Wick universe?
>>2904418>Possiblity of Angelica Huston yuriscared.jpg
>>2902916At least it's not second person.
>>2889265>not using a snowflake system to avoid long rewrites
>>2907203I'm seeing stuff about database entries here. What did you mean by this?
>>2907333There's a think called "snowflake method" to plan novels or (long fics) in an expansive or additive manner. I use it to avoid rewrites.Google "write a novel using the snowflake method". It should appear in the first result.
>>2902693The best fics I've read are unfinished
>When your favourite ship has no art or fics so you decide to take matters into your own hands. There needs to be more Kirche x Louise material. Also more FOZ yuri in general
And the artist drew a quick doodle
>>2911244>>2911245I'm seen a handful of fics ship the two together, but I don't recall them being all that good. Louise is just kinda fun to throw into /u/ stuff.Though there is Overlady, which has a Louise that has recently more or less accepted that she's bi and is attracted to Kirche (and vows to never let her know it). However she's not seen Kirche at all for like 2+ years and is likely to try dating a girl that she doesn't know is Kirche's demonic half-sister
>>2911245I'll never understand why people write fics for what is clearly a male-centered harem
>>2911257Because the world is interesting and the characters are pretty well put together. The only issue is the bland male protag so everyone just removes him.
>>2911257For FoZ, it's because whatshisface is particularly replaceable with extreme ease due to the premise of the entire work. Not sure about other such works though.
>>2911257Louise is the center of every plot point and don't really need the MC, you just need to replace him and the story become a yuri harem one.
>>2911257With a lot of harems, the girls have better chemistry with each other than they do with the MC.
>>2911275Ya currently writing a fic where Louise summons a sherman and brands herself as gandalfr although its nerfed to better reflect her character (gives her the infor how to use it but she isn't an instant master) gonna have yuri but that needs to wait for the invasion of albion
>>2911588What is she going to do with a tank? She most likely doesn't know how to operate it.
>>2911777And how does a Sherman get more nerfed? It can only fire HE?
>>2911788She branded herself as gandalfr but it only really gives her the knowledge to use the tanks and other weapons.She uses this to train a crew which consists of tabitha as the driver kirche as the gunner guiche ad the loader and montmorency as the bow gunner Oh no the gandalfr runes got nerfed and the sherman can use willy pete rounds, HE and armour piercing although it won't do much good.
>>2911788The earlier versions were always suppossed to only fire HE. It was only after they started taking losses to enemy armor that they abandoned the infantry support role.So yeah, maybe Louise got herself a brand new M4.>>2911804Won't do much when they run out of fuel.
>>2911806>Won't do much when they run out of fuel.They're probably going to run it off of Louise's tsun.
>>2911809It'll be more than Duplex Drive in that case, it could probably fly.
>>2911806Yep its an M4A3 75MM With the upgraded commanders cupola and the loaders hatch.Its also good that colbert had been able to create aviation fuel so its not much of a stretch for him to make regular petrol
>>2911816That's cool, but you didn't give her a love interest.
>>2911820It's the tank.
>>2911244I had a (probably awful) idea for a fic with slow burn Louise/Kirche but it was an FoZ/HL2 crossover so the yuri would have to fit in between teleporter mishaps, the horrors of life under a totalitarian alien regime, and Louise exploding every chickenshit metrocop in City 17.
It doesn't help that ZnT just isn't as popular as it once was, there was a time where you got lots of fics, mostly crossovers that barely changed anything, but now that doesn't seem to be the case.
Wouldn't mind seeing Louise/Kirche though, that was my favorite pairing back when i cared about ZnT though i never wrote anything, i do remember at one point wanting to make a story where Louise loved Kirche and freaking hated herself for it, due to Kirche still insulting her or constantly annoying her while being from her rival family, and that frustration and yet still love being something that confuses her and makes her act tsundere-ish to Kirche, though without the hitting because Kirche is a powerful noble.Never did anything with it, and now that i think about it, Louise thinking of Kirche as a bully, still being attracted to her and hating herself for it wouldn't make for a story anyone would care to read.
>>2912514It's hardly an unworkable concept, however I'm not sure how exactly to begin workshopping such a fic. A summon that is capable of acting as a wingman and confidant really feels like the only way forward from my understanding of ZnT.
>>2912514>>2912770The thing is, at least in my opinion, such a ship would need to develop over time, you can't just start out with Louise in love with Kirche its something that she would need to grow into. This would also help with the "I hate that i feel like this" Vibe you want to have going as the reader will see this transition and be more likely to latch on to it.In my own fic, Louise only really comes around to the idea that she may like Kirche after both she and her begin sleeping in the same bed as a way to cope with the nightmares she begins to have due to the stress of the war with Albion and the added responsibility she has in keeping her tank crew safe.
>>2912803Love is a strong word, and I agree that starting out with that is a hard sell for someone like Louise and the time of the start of the series. However to make Louise angsting over liking girls (and kirche in particular) a major aspect of your plot, then starting early with Louise being upset over noticing how she "notices" her female classmates. So basically just add another log to the fire of Louise's insecurities, with the rest being her magical incompetence, maybe a shitty summon, and her figure.
>>2912809Also remember that at this point she's engaged with Viscount Wardes, so she'll have a way to defend against those feelings by focusing on the marriage that is only around a year away. Now when it gets really interesting is if you make it so that she has to kill the Viscount herself. (in my case its with a pistol he gives her.) And this is where you could start her interest in Kirche if she was the one to pull her out of the fire that was new castle.
>>2912814I forgot about that guy being a thing. Though reading about him getting killed to death so Louise could pursue a f/f relationship would be neat. Though that's in part because I've been waiting for ES to finally bring Wardes into Louise's sights to get crushed beneath her heavy plate boots.As a side note, I'm curious about how one would handle Louise summoning a woman who fell in love with her and was not in the least bit shy about showing it. Dragon Maid is probably a good crossover for it if one uses the summoning ritual to enable Louise to save Tohru from the fuckhuge holy sword she got stuck with at the beginning of the plot.
>>2911257Most harems make the guy as bland as possible. He's not a character, he's a stand in for the audience to fill with themselves. The women are the real main characters, so it's easy enough to pair them up.
>>2912816Honestly its one of the reasons why i like how Loopholes has handled it or looks like it will handle it, as Tabitha and Louise's relationship seems to be taking off thanks to the blue haired wonder saving Louise from new castle.Now i have an idea of Louise and Kirche in bed back to back but holding hands as they try to get through a night of nightmares.I think i should wait for the commissions i have lined up are done before i ask for anymore.
As for ZnT, i do like Maid Of Honour and that spin-off set in an AU where Louise and Siesta meet in their first year at the Academy and start falling for each other, i found them pretty decent but they haven't been updated in a long while as the author started writing yuri RWBY and FF7 stories so i assume those ZnT stories are sadly dead.As for ZnT stories, honestly i just feel like doing what everyone else did years ago and make some stupid crossover story, and aside from slice-of-life stuff, what i have been into lately doesn't exactly lead to yuri.It would lead to something like Viscount Wardes being thrown into the air and being piledrived into the ground, or for elaborate wrestling moves performed by a superhero to be done on him.Or for Warde's magic to be blocked by a goalkeeper that can create demons and gods to block soccer balls.Or for Wardes to be beaten off screen by an unemployed former Red Ranger with an attitude problem that mooches off his girlfriend and tends to fight the nicest villains ever.
>>2912978Actually dealing with Wardes is not so hard, you just need to cut the ties of Louise with the nobility and replace them with her loyalty to Henrietta and the crown. A loyalist Louise will not give a shit about a traitor like Wardes.
>“You’re clever, aren’t you? I’m sure you’ll think of something.”>She muttered a particularly foul Kul Tiran curse under her breath.>“Do you kiss your mother with that mouth, Lady Proudmoore?”>“Not since I killed my father, no.”;_:Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I see my father... and my brother... even Him. The nations I have failed... the soldiers I've lost... won't stop hurting... It's like they are all still here. You feel it too, don't you Sylvanas?
>Haven't updated a fic in 10 months>Someone comments about how they're excited to know what happens after the cliffhangerit hurtsit really does
>>2913107Pretty much, Wardes is basically the kind of guy she doesn't want anyways.So may as well go back to Louise and Kirche...how the hell would Louise's family react to this ship?
>>2913838Louise's parents fought a war against germania before canon and they really fucking hate the Zerbsts so not good.However there may be one person who supports her in Henrietta and Kaiser Albert of Germania who would see such a relationship as a way to mend the two families history. Because nothing really hurts your future marriage when the empire is tearing itself apart.
Well, I found a yuri harem fic for ZnThttps://www.fanfiction.net/s/13307338/1/Louise-de-la-Valliere-Eighth-Dragon-of-HalkegeniaThe incomplete fic this is a rewrite of was decent and this version is looking to be a bit better.
Last Resort finally ended. For all its problems, it has a high level of prose, and it's immensely satisfying watching a 180k word fic come to an end. Immense props to anyone who finishes ttheir work
>>2914440Jaina/Sylvanas and WoW
>>2914413I was lucky to find out about it a couple weeks ago, so I didn't have to wait long.
>>2914413I'm sure I'll finish it eventually. It's getting to be a bit of a slog though, with all the random gay pairings crammed in for no reason.Old Gods should just wait 100 years for when Azeroth is depopulated by the 95% rate of homosexuality.
>>2914384Nice find. It tempts me to read the previous version to try and spot the difference.
>>2914594I read it. Author seems to be approaching the relationship between Louise and her familiar differently and moving forward with Louise's girllust quicker.
>>2914607Would you say it's worth a read despite that? Cause I'm fucking digging the concept and everything. The mesh between Hydra's Cosmology and Louise's
>>2914620Eh, not particularly. At least as far as /u/ things go.
>>2914623Blast, well I suppose they've earned a follow and a comment.
>>2914384>Louise gets herself a yuri haremYes.>first few chapters are about Louise summoning an intelligent hydra from Heroes of Might and Magic, almost no sign of the harem so farThe day will be long.
>>2914918There's some sign, as chapter 3 does feature a fair bit of drunken groping. Also the pre-rewrite fic had the harem include Siesta, Kirche, and Tabitha.
>>2914976Any possibility of that chick that was kinda with that nancy Fop? The names are escaping me because they're so like french. There's also some hints with Kirche throughout the chapters present though they're kinda surface level at the moment.
>>2914979You mean montmorency?I honestly doubt it, it's hard to write her as gay cause you know, being wed to Guiche.The only way i see such a thing happening is if she took the cheating thing so hard she turned gay.
>>2914982Yeah her, and blast.
>>2914985It was honestly something i was considering for the tank fic which sort of works better now that Louise and her had entered into a partnership becoming merchants of death by selling smokeless powder based weapons.However i feel like her and guiche being together is better for her character.I do wonder if I should add Tabitha to Louise and Kirche sort of "Cuddle to deal with the horrors of war" shtick that they gonna develop later on.
>>2914979Monmon is unlikely.However as it stands, the rewrite's yuri content is as follows. Louise drunkenly gropes Tabitha, Kirche, and Siesta and is unaware that she's writing about checking out other girls in her notes. Tabitha seems to have a crush on Louise and gets her hopes up after hearing about Louise's notes from Kirche. Kirche knows that Louise is unaware of being a mega-gay and likes to tease her. Siesta is willing to put up with the molestation as she thinks it'll be a one-time thing if she can keep Louise from getting drunk again and has enough of a fetish for master-servant stuff of the lesbian variety to own a smutty book on the subject.
What are some good foz fanfics where Louise and Kirche hold hands
Why has ZnT taken over the fanfic threads for the past 2 or 3 threads?
>>2915153Because harem series by definition have a gaggle of interesting girls who interact a whole lot, a completely replaceable MC, and ZnT in particular has a premise that all but puts a gun to authors' heads demanding they write alt-summons that are crossovers most of the time.
>>2915153All according to keikaku. Actually it feels like Overlady discussions brought about some olden faggettes reminiscining about the prehistoric times when this animu-ff scene was more active and then someone started askimg basic questions about the series which have easy answeres and many a post was made.
>>2915153Because anon's are too shy to share and they just go with the flow.
>>2915177You know, I don't think I've read anything new this year, it's just been updates. This thread really is bad about sharing new discoveries. In contrast, the fastenough forum thread might be full normie-redditter but they are at least sharing actual works they've read and liked.
>>2915180Half of it's gotta be attitudes where the first thing the thread tends to do is pick something apart instead of saying what they like.
>>2915182Hmm, maybe this reaction has something to do with the tendency of girls sharing stories being accompanied by claims of quality. As if if they liked it then it must be good. That's just waving a red flag at the a/u/tism bulls(female).
>>2915202I suppose that's a good summation.There's a big difference between liking something or disliking something and then getting up on a pretentious high horse and acting like one can't find enjoyment in the fic. I figure most imoutos and other women read for, you know, fun and enjoyment. Treating it like it's an academic treatise is kind of ridiculous. Sure one can laud a fic with nice prose/syntax/grammar but hell comprehension, enjoyment, and being on topic should be the biggest and baseline requirement for somethingAs for newer stuff, it's kind of like legwork to get into it to at least have a base understanding unless one is one of those readers that can throw themselves into something and build up an understanding from the fics they consume and that's ignoring a person's own tastes.Goddess knows that a Kigo fic would probably be met with mixed results
>>2915182There's a combination of probable reasons for this. First and most noteworthy being >>2915176 which points out that the fanfic scene for anime has declined by a lot. I'm curious if anyone's ever gotten the numbers so it could be more than just anecdotal, but even in the anime fic scene, /u/-related content was relatively uncommon to begin with.And there's a lot more anime that's easily accessible to western fans than there was 10 years ago. Instead of expending energy to write fic, people just move onto the next shiny thing.There's also the fact that /u/ has their own set of tastes, and what /u/ likes as some sort of conglomerate unit might not be what gets lots of fanfic written for it.Plus I think a lot of people get weirdly defensive about fanfic. They don't want to admit that they still like it since it's seen as a thing for younger people (even though that's statistically untrue) so they feel like they have to tear down things that are less than fantastic. At the end of the day though, 99.9% of fic is free entertainment and I think that's something people forget a lot of the time.
>>2915180I would share if I found anything I liked. Most things I find, however, start somewhat interesting and then descend into disconnected messes. The rest is just plain uninteresting to me, so even if it might be good, I can't know and thus can't recommend.
Might be easier to req stuff if we just do broader reqs before getting overly specific.
>>2915162Pretty much, it was even why it became popular amongst fanfic writers, it gave characters they liked a chance to beat up some stuck up nobles and be amazing while they eventually realized that wasn't enough to carry a story and mostly abandoned them after a few chapters.Louise and Tiffania have probably summoned almost all anime and manga characters that can fight at this point.But nowadays, i think there is less talk about crossovers, but that may be because the fanfic scene is almost dead regarding ZnT, even in some places that used to have threads that would always have a new reply like Spacebattles regarding ZnT have it be mentioned a lot less.Then again, Spacebattles was the place where someone had the awful idea of an AU where Cattleya was older than canon, and while she was young she had a meeting...with a guy that led to stuff happening and her becoming pregnant with Louise and then trying to figure out a way to make that into a story.And then someone else had the even worse idea of having the father be Kirche's father who rapes Cattleya and escapes and this means that Kirche and Louise are half-sisters and my God, it's probably a good thing that Spacebattles doesn't talk much about the series anymore.
>ZnT fanfics>remember that there's a fanfic where Louise summons the entire cast from Spec Ops: the LineEh. Anyways, got any more of those yuri harem fics? ZnT or not.
>>2915811I remember hearing about that fanon before.Also yeah, kinda hard to carry a plot all too far after the summoning, and even those that do manage it don't get all too much traffic even if they're the better fics still running. Though I really am not all that sure of such things as most of the shit in stuffed into SB or SV and both of those forums are nightmares to try to find content on and their users are violently allergic to tagging their shit.
>>2915842 You can hardly blame fic writers on SB as you can only add tags when you start a thread and need a mod or an admin to add them after the factAlso more Kirche x Louise art.
>>2915828I'd post the one I was writing, but it hasn't gotten updated in ages because I'm juggling too many projects.
>>2915153Because this thread is filled with autists who binge on a single franchise until it's run into the ground. Pretty soon, no one will want to discuss ZnT fics anymore, even if there are decent ones worth mentioning. They did the same thing with Vocaloid.
>>2915233>Plus I think a lot of people get weirdly defensive about fanfic. They don't want to admit that they still like it since it's seen as a thing for younger people (even though that's statistically untrue) so they feel like they have to tear down things that are less than fantastic.This. Also, certain anons will have their pet authors in a fandom who can do no wrong, and they make it their mission to build up their faves and find the flimsiest excuses to tear down any other author they consider to be a threat. Kuugen's and Nuclear Eggs' fanboys (and even the authors themselves) used to do that all the time back in Vocaloid days, and they tried it again a couple months ago when Kuugen samefagged her 1-million-plus-word Neptunia fic.
>>2915885>a couple months ago when Kuugen samefagged her 1-million-plus-word Neptunia ficI thought that fic was on hiatus and the relatively recent Dissonance update was the first and only thing from her since the last Dissonance chapter
>>2915902Probably is and anon's not gonna miss the chance to sling mud at authors they don't like because of past experience.
>>2915148>>2915845I've been searching for yuri artwork featuring Louise. Fucking nice.
>>2916525Glad you like it, got one more commission on the way of the pairing. Wish FOZ yuri art was more common.
>>2915233>>2915176>this animu-ff scene was more active>the fanfic scene for anime has declined by a lotFor a while I thought that maybe I was simply not in the busier anime fandoms, but things have been slowing for a few years, haven't they? Why do you think this is? The way I see it, the trend should be the opposite, no? (For better or worse) anime is more popular/accepted in the West than it was, and there are (seemingly) more out-and-out pun unintended yuri shows/subtext shows than there was in the past, or at least they're being released more consistently. Is it, like you said, >Instead of expending energy to write fic, people just move onto the next shiny thing.Is it that, because there are more yuri series out there, people feel less like they have to write something for characters they want to be shipped, but never will in the actual canon? Are the previous anime fic writers moving on to live-action/Western stuff? On the one hand, it feels like we're in an age where everybody everywhere is making fancontent, but on the other, at least anecdotally, it does seem like there are less anime /u/ writers out there. How do we fix this? In addition to writing more ourselves, of course. >>2915177>Because anon's are too shy to share and they just go with the flow.I'm sure part of it isn't just wanting to avoid harsh criticism, but also because there's a very thin line between self-promotion/sharing, and attention-whoring. In my case, for example, I'd be more up for sharing my work if I hadn't seen two or three of my fics shared here by other anons - to share my own myself now feels like I'm hunting for attention.
With almost no one doing fanfic for Spec Ops Asuka I thought I'd do a one-shot with an alternate take on the end of ep 5, see how that goes before my brain stops me.
>>2917188The issue is the lack of yuri with good villains you genuinely want to see die or get defeated and horrible events that require a fixing - also a lack of stuff where if you change one detail the rest of the story changes due to butterfly effect. A lot of yuri series also have a complete story with not much room left to write anything for.
>>2917188I just figured people are both increasingly lazy and easily distracted by the flood of other things to do. It's hard to sit down and write when there are gacha login bonuses to get and stuff that begs for your attention with a stream of notifications. I have several unfinished drafts laying around and I even tried to do an original work but it's hard to not just watch videos on YouTube instead. I've never been real deep into the fanfic community but it wouldn't surprise me if most of the people who wrote heavily in the past no longer have the free time that they used to have.
Highly recommend the following. Her writing style is one of the best I've seen in fanfiction.Arya/Myrcella:https://archiveofourown.org/works/11875947She did a really long azula / katara that is really good, but something about this one gets to me. pls recommend if you have something of similar quality (regardless of the ship)
>>2917316>GoT yuriI didn't know that happened.Also as someone who has never really watched the series, can I get some context about who the characters are that are getting shipped? As I only vaguely know of Arya going from nobleish to being a hobo or something.
>>2914384This one updated.Seems there's a bit of divergence from what it's rewriting in that Louise might have feelings for Henrietta to start with.Also the actual plot takes a massive turn during the exhibition.
>>2917353>a massive turnWhere are we going? The relatively comfy magic school stuff was good.
>>2917358Something more extreme as far as the usual theft of the staff of destruction goes.
>>2917345In the show itself there's not much, I suppose there's Sansa Stark and Margaery Tyrell but the vast majority of their interactions are to do with Sansa feeling bad, Margaery empathising but also playing the game of thrones, and the two of them talking about how it'd be great if Sansa could marry Willas (Margaery's brother)Yara Greyjoy is canon bisexual despite the fact that she is officially straight in the books ( GRRM confirmed it) but doesn't have much going on. Then there's a couple f/f prostitute scenes but that's about it.Fanfiction wise, the big couples are Arya and Daenerys, Sansa and Margaery or Sansa and Brienne, some Sansa and Daenerys, but beyond that, that's about it.Now for my personal take on it, GoT fanfics tend to be of slightly higher quality than average just because the setting is more adult, Arya and Daenerys has some excellent ones even if I personally find the pairing to be a bit strange, Margaery and Sansa tend to be a bit more just because they're both quite hot, so you'll find tons of modern AU stuff if you enjoy that, and I've not read any Sansa/Brienne ones just because I think Brienne and Jaime are made for each other, but that's just me. Beyond that, the occasional pearl like the one I linked above... :)
>>2917358>>2917359Oh jeez, well I hope the rivalry doesn't get extreme. I also doubt the author's on the ball enough to keep the harem relatively small and have it to where the women can all stand and like each other
>>2917534Kirche and Tabitha are unlikely to get into conflict with one another and Kirche in general is unlikely to be antagonistic with anyone beyond her usual thing with Louise. Siesta might end up jealous like in the old version, but the author didn't like how that one worked out so who knows. Henrietta is a big mystery though as we've only seen how Louise seems to be attracted to her and I honestly can't remember enough of her canon personality to call anything at this point in time, though I will say that I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't return Louise's potential feelings. Cus I guess Louise just can't catch much of a break in wooing a princess in fics.Isabella barely counts if yer gonna bring up Overlady. From what I understand she's got so many half-siblings (and a handful of full-blooded siblings) that being a princess of the abyss isn't all that meaningful of a title.
>>2917556Who knows, Louise might win big and catch a break with this Henrietta. Looking for allies, something Louise is more than happy to do, the Neb's song and connection to the dragons, and what little there was said from Henrietta sounds like the possibilities open. It really depends on the bethrothed thing unless that was something entirely made up for Overlady.Light dragon seems to have a stick up his ass about what's justified regarding light magic.
Excuse me for my foul mouth, sisters, but I have to vent.Why the fuck not one, not two, but THREE of my favorite franchises and I'm deliberately not counting at least a dozen of others are so appealingly lacking in solid, lengthy and regularly updated fanfics? Am I not looking where I should? Am I just unlucky?This is so frustrating...
Since wao occasionally gets brought up, anyone reading that Thalyssra/Sylvanas one?
>>2917649Unfortunately, fanfic in general lacks in solid, lengthy and regularly updated content.
>>2917572The whole thing about politics and secretly having a thing with her cousin is indeed canon for Henrietta.
>>2918029Boo, fucking boo. Hopefully it's tossed aside or something where it opens up Henrietta
>>2918031>Louise just straight up shoots her fiancee and prince wales just to get at Henrietta.Not sure i like the idea of a gay Yandere Louise.
>>2918032Don't think of it as Yandere, think of it as Neb or Malassa removing pieces from the board to strengthen Louise's position
>>2918034There's no need for that though, as a void mage she has claim to the throne.Hell in canon Henrietta makes her her successor. All neb has to do is begin spreading rumors that a void mage has returned, and begin to accrue support. Devout Brimirists would back Louise as claiment to the throne and ironically enough, this would be backed by Reconquista as any civil unrest in a country that you wish to invade is good.On another note I'm wondering if i should toss Tabitha into Kirche and Louise in my fic with the relationship mostly built on supporting each other through trying times.
>>2917986What about it?
>>2918035Louise's own attitudes toward being a void mage would hinder that, though that does sound like an interesting turn of events.You certainly can though Tabitha in but is the groundwork semi-existent or would you have to go back and do stuff to make it fit better?
>>2918031Eh the Wales thing is bound to end in tears anyways and Louise is undoubtedly gonna wanna be a comfort, so playing the childhood friend card could get her into her princess' panties.
>>2918043Oh i'm very early on in the fic. (Around 30k words and am now just starting the first trip to Albion to fetch a letter.) So i wouldn't have to change much, plus the ground work would lay it self out naturally as all three of them are crewing a tank, and would need to sleep together during the various wars they find themselves in.(Already came up with a scene for when their fighting in Germanian civil war to aide the Kaiser, as Tristian navy on its own can't touch Albion's. And so during a winter offensive Louise Kirche Tabitha Montmorency and Guiche need to share a fox hole they built under the tank, and in order to better transfer warmth they are told to strip down to their underwear which trigger some obvious reservations in the Tristian's)
>>2918046>get naked in a hole during winterUmm, sweety, you are fucking retarded.
>>2918050Snow is actually a great insulator, i should know I've slept outside in the snow. And if you have a thick blanket you can get pretty warm.What they would do is dig a hole and park the tank over it, then using the available snow build walls on every side to enclose your hole only having small air holes to allow you to breath.Humans generate a lot of heat so this enclosed space would be rather warm in a few minutes.
>>2918054Doesn't require the removal of clothes. Could just have Louise/Tabitha/Kirche wake up in a compromising position amongst Louise/Tabitha/Kirche instead
>>2918058Yeah you right, but they would still need to remove some of their clothing as winter gear would do nothing but stop the transfer of heat. Although they would get into a compromising position the night before as the foxhole isn't that big in the first place so everyone is going to be packed together.
>>2918054Ground freezes during the winter so digging through that will be a huge chore, especially one that can fit four people. Even then you still probably wouldn't be able to lie down and have to huddle and crouch at best. You'd be surrounded at all sides by sub and near 0 degree walls and a floor which will sap heat from any body they touch and will perpetually keep cooling the air. Cold air will also pool into your rather large hole if you fail with the snowbarriers. The larger the hole the more difficulty you'll be having with heating it up. Just a blanket wouldn't be enough. You'd need to insulate the bottom of your hole at least, and the walls if you are touching them. And you want to keep the hole as small as possible if you are worried about artillery fire and shrapnel. Both of which a tank would attract.
Thankfully this is FOZ so its 1750 tech which means that artillery is going to be piss poor in terms of accuerate and shrapinal in that period of shells either weren't a thing or again piss poor.As this is FOZ you can easily magic the hole into existance but honestly your right. perhaps using snow to insulate would be a good idea. Honestly the best idea would be building shelters in the sides of snow piles so you could dig down and up to avoid losing the heat.Perhaps this would be better as the trio of girls is seperated from the married guy and girl. This could also play into the other anon's idea about them waking up in a comprimising position and i could use this to show the resourcefulness of the Germanian peasants.
You can explain away anything with magic, but let's not pretend that getting naked in a frozen hole is clever. Trenches were a nessecity not a comfort.
>>2918041It any good?
>Louise will not steal Montmorency from GuicheWelp. Not everyone can be saved, I guess.
How is it possible the Claymore franchise has so few /u/-worthy fics?Don't get me wrong, there are many good, even excellent pieces on ao3 and fanfiction.net, but they're all rather short, updated once in a blue moon or straight-up dead. Is the Claymore series just not that famous/well-known anymore or there are other reasons its fandom seems so comatose?
>>2918139Thats an issue. While in my fic their on extreamly good terms i din't see a way for that friendship to turn gay without it being forced.Plus its going to awkward if i go with that and keep Guiche as the loader
>>2918139Monomon is easily the most difficult girl to wrangle into a relationship with Louise I think. With Henrietta being next on that list.
>>2917259>I've never been real deep into the fanfic community but it wouldn't surprise me if most of the people who wrote heavily in the past no longer have the free time that they used to have.I've definitely seen this happen to the Type-Moon fanfic community. There's more official content than ever, but the writers who were active in 2012-2016 have moved on with almost no one to replace them. And the writers still active are often on the older side (Ashforge is in her mid to late 20s I think). Perhaps writing just can't compete anymore with the other entertainment options available to today's teens and young adults.
>>2918069Hmm, yes and no? Jaina is pretty good as are all of her interactions with the other characters. The setting and the environment for the story is weird tho. It feels as if it is lifted straight from the game with complete confidence that the reader knows exactly what's going on. It even has the dreaded player character champions in the backdrop. While not completely unilluminated, that aspect of the story seems vague and come across as weak probably because the very same lack of context. Also, the last chapter just made the main characters state out loud everything that was going on in Jaina's head and with her emotions. This feels sort of jarring when the fic was very careful to keep all of those things shrouded just like Jaina herself did in-story.Hmm, quite a pickle.
>>2918169That has to deal with a Thalyssra/Sylvanas fic?
>>2918271It seems that I've made a grave mistake.
>>2918144no one cares about it anymore is my guessalso https://m.fanfiction.net/s/13143655/1/Coffee for those who want a daria fic
>>2918168I remember that I originally got into Fate when I was just going into college and thinking how much better it would be if Rin was the main character and she summoned Saber instead. It wasn't until recently that I wrote a Rin x Ayako fic and it felt more like checking something off my bucket list than that I was getting back into the community. Playing FGO just doesn't inspire the same kind of passion to write that playing games used to. But you're definitely right that I'm on the older side now (31). I am working on a Ritsuka x Musashi fic but it's just mostly drunken smut. I do really want to write more KNK stuff in the future though, that's probably the TM franchise I hold closest to my heart.>>2918144I personally felt that the manga wrapped everything up nicely, and I never felt that I could really add anything. The fact that the Claymores weren't really emotional probably doesn't help to imagine them getting horny.
>>2918414>that huffington post bitBig oof.Daria always seemed like someone who'd stay away from cesspools like that regardless of her own views. Feels more like the author expressing their own.
Since I was asking about it and eventually read into it, here's the Thalyssra/Sylvanas fic.https://archiveofourown.org/works/15088103/chapters/34984478?view_adult=truePretty decent so far, canon-divergent if anyone cares about that. Part of the premise is that the nightborne didn't immediately join the Horde and are thus being courted by both factions as BofA starts to happen. It seems to be following a slowburn style though whether the author sticks to it is up to the stars. Seems like it so far though. I just hope the author keeps emphasizing the height difference
>>2918653Very enjoyable read so far, thanks.
>>2889027How do you get your fic archived?
Krupifag here for the first time in a while, wrote another short naughty witch fic. https://archiveofourown.org/works/19473568Krupi x Edytha with a heavy Edytha focus. I have a lot of love for both of them. TL;DR: Edytha masturbates to Krupi and then she comes in to cuddle not long after she's finished, leading to her teasing her among other things.Writing solo content is new for me too, so I hope I managed to do it well.
>>2917649Well, what are the 3 favorite franchises in question?
>>2922827From the more to the less lacking: Claymore, Kill la Kill and PMMM
Well if anyone here actually cares about worm fics, I've been keeping track of some recent ones that are relevant or have the possibility of becoming relevant that all also rather entertaining/good.As for the actually relevant one there's a proper xover with VtM that pairs off Emma and Taylor and has crazy shit like Danny being Caine and Taylor's adopted dad, Taylor being a fae or something I don't really get VtM all that much, and Emma is a werewolf. Funny part is that the parahumans think that the various supernatural persons who are outed are just parahumans and that is a misconception they take advantage of.https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/its-all-in-the-blood-vampire-the-masquerade-worm.754504/As for potentially relevant, in order of most to least, the interesting fics have been the following1. A fic where Taylor buds off of Eidilon because he's dating her dad, which merges the terrible trio with the endbringers and gives them all a massive, one-sided (for now?), crush on her.https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/my-bullies-are-secretly-the-endbringers-and-not-so-secretly-in-love-with-me.762128/page-10#post-591832782. A fic where taylor gets super maid powers with a leveling system and has demonstrated an attraction to both men and womenhttps://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/the-maid-of-brockton-bay-worm-maid-gamer-taylor.766552/3. Another kitsune!taylor fic where she gets god powers instead of parahuman powers, with the author stating her preferences are eventually gonna end up as a godly "yes".https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/the-taste-of-peaches-worm-au.766264/
>>2923088I care anon.Sadly not the most exciting pile of stories, the VtM one sounds nice but I'm not huge on crossovers and this one specifically sounds like a bit of a worldbuilding clusterfuck.
>>2923107Saying it's a bit of a clusterfuck is being generous, as it's really not all that bad.
>>2923075For some series, as much as I love them, I just don’t get the urge to seek out and read fic. Usually because the series is short, fairly self-contained and wrapped up well enough by the end. Some writers might feel the same way and might not feel the urge to write lengthy, multi chapter fics. For PMMM, it’s been so long since Rebellion, and trying to pick up where Homura left off seems daunting to me, plot wise. I’m really only keeping an eye on Persistence of Memory myself.
Found an interesting crossover fic that's Ass Creed Odykessy with the latest TR trilogy. Takes place well, kinda everywhere since Kassandra's one of the MC's. Bit early in it's lifespan from the looks of it but there's some delicious Daphnae/Kassandra already which is delightful.Definitely something to check back on occasionally if it catches anyone's interest. I'd imagine, since it'll probably have a happy end, that Lara/Kass is endgame. Unless the author changes her mind halfway through but she seems to have a path worked out from what's said in the comments.https://archiveofourown.org/works/18725359
>>2923088When are crossovers ever worth recommending? I hate them.I'm playing VtMB for the first time right now though, and it's excellent.
>>2923754Crossovers are worth reccing at the same time as non-xover fics are, when they're actually enjoyable and are written by someone who knows enough of the works involved. However I should note that there are a couple of different kinds of crossovers really, and different works encourage different crossover variations. For example; Familiar of Zero really encourages crossovers that grab a character from one setting and make them into Louise's familiar during the summoning ritual at the start of the story. Rarely will you get any further crossover elements like merging the two settings together or adding additional characters (which is something that Overlady does, incidentally). Worm is a setting that usually just uses crossovers to filch a powerset to shove into whomever the MC of the fic is, and again further crossed elements are rarer though they tend to be along the lines of "shard gets jacked by something big and mean from the xover series that changes it into granted the power set". W40k tends to cross things over by punting shit through the warp into or out of the 40k setting, which is functionally the same as what FoZ does. Proper fusions of the two works into one cohesive setting is quite rare, but I can't really think of any works that are famous for it off the top of my head.
>>2923737Actual Lara would've been interesting. Wannabe Lara is not.
>>2923088You're missing Intergalactic No Fault Collisions, which has a *fantastic* rarepair (and Taylor in suits/backless dresses).https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/intergalactic-no-fault-collisions-worm-crossover-worm-x-star-wars.733420/reader
>>2923936What's the rarepair?
>>2923758I'm still sad that Stalker Zero not only died twice, but died before its yuri potential had a chance to shine.
>>2923936I got bored with reading that when levithan attack, what's the pairing?>>2924082stalker zero?
>>2924082>Stalker Zero is a fanfic by TheannaTheWhite about what would happen if one were to dump Louise de la Vallière of The Familiar of Zero into the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone as seen in S.T.A.L.K.E.R.. Damn. I've never heard of it before but it sounds interesting. Too bad it's dead. Panties soon, fellow stalker.
>>2923938>>2924084Taylor/Victoria, with what's shaping up to be some Amy/Lily as wellIt gets really good after Leviathan.
>>2923754Good crossovers are those where the strengths of different settings play off of and augment each other to come together into something greater. Difficult to truly pull off hence most of it is just about dropping characters onto another setting in the most trite way possible.
>dicking around looking at random ZnT fics>find one that actually had the balls to make Henrietta's super secret "if this gets out I'm fucked" relationship be with LouiseI'm honestly surprised that this is the first I've seen of this. Fucking fic didn't even label the pairing either, but that's ffnet for you.
>>2924896Is it any good?Also about marking the pairing. I don't really care unless the relationship starts right off the bat makes it fun to see whose going to win the Louise bowl.
>>2923936I started reading it a bit and I have two big criticisms.The first one hopefully will mostly go away after the first chapter but good goddamn does the author use it's when its is correct constantly. This wouldn't be so bad if the whole chapter wasn't about 'it'. To make it worse they occasionally get it right only to go right back to failure, and this is apparently a rewritten chapter so it did not get me very excited for their prose.Luckily the next couple chapters haven't had anything as egregious, but issue #2 is that the once tired retreading of early Worm events has at this point become near torturous. While not necessarily badly written and at least not completely pointless in this case since it introduces the SW side of things, going through yet another take on the locker is still near sleep-inducing at this point.I cheated to check if it at least delivers on /u/ and got cuddling so I'll tough it out and hope it really does improve post-Leviathan.
>>2925146>Issue #2 is that the once tired retreading of early Worm events has at this point become near torturous. While not necessarily badly written and at least not completely pointless in this case since it introduces the SW side of things, going through yet another take on the locker is still near sleep-inducing at this point.This. So much this.
>>2925146>issue #2 is that the once tired retreading of early events has at this point become near torturous.Damn, I think I've been guilty of this myself. I try to keep it to the parts where the story diverges from the canon to introduce the yuri, but maybe I'm getting too lost inside the character's head. Or I'm farting and thinking it smells like roses.
>>2925008It's okay. The relationship is what you'd expect from Louise's general attitude toward her princess in canon. Also the fic is a mlp xover so make of that what you will.https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11376451/11/Celestia-takes-a-vacation
How to avoid overusing pronouns and descriptive words for a character? Like, if a character is a princess then the pronouns will be: woman, princess, royal, and/or hair color indications?And when writing, should I avoid using too much direct words ie: think, wonder, like...? I have written out 18k words for a dead fandom about a pairing that is literally crack on crack and I'm so lacking in input because most of that fandom's authors only specialized in action and their reviewers are also action-oriented. A beta reader would be nice but I, for the life of me, can't seem to find one.
>>2925780What's the fandom?
>>2925780>how to avoid overusingjust...don't use them?If a character is a princess, just use "she." Do NOT try to switch it up by using woman/princess/royal every sentenceThe second question is harder to answer. Post your fic or part of it
>>2925803Don't laugh but it's Bakugan. I recently got agitated so I rewatched them all for fun.>>2925806If I switch it up, then it'll make it less personable for the reader? I read it somewhere that I have to limit my use of indications and instead replace them with descriptive scenes from the character's pov.
>>2925780Use the character's name. It feels repetitive as a writer, but for the reader, it's very easy to follow and unobtrusive.
>>2925780Keep it simple so it's easy to read. Definitely not what >>2925806 said, the moment you have two "she"s in a scene it's going to be confusing. I'd use "she" when it's completely unambiguous, her name when it's not or you want to emphasize her as a person, and reserve other descriptive terms to emphasize that aspect or evoke a specific angle of the character to the reader. For example, if she's engaging in diplomatic talks and the current point of view is not used to seeing her like that, use "princess" instead of her name. If it's been a while since you described her, call her "redhead" in a situation where her looks might be relevant to remind the reader how she looks like.
>>2925780>>2926190Author could also use the princess' title. The "your highness/majesty" bit though I'm sure I used the wrong ones.
>>2918444>MusashiIf I could send mental energy/positivity to help you along, I would. Best of luck with your KnK plans as well. I really enjoyed your past work, and at this point you might be the fandom's last best hope for new KnK fics.
>>2926190>if she's engaging in diplomatic talks and the current point of view is not used to seeing her like that, use "princess" instead of her nameThe problem with this is that the reader must absolutely not have trouble figuring out at first glance who is being talked about.If the character happens to be a princess, but that is hardly relevant most of the time and the reader may not even remember it, using princess is a mistake. Same if there's another character who may be referred to as Princess.In this example, it would probably work. But if she's just drinking tea and the POV character suddenly realizes she looks regal, it would not.>If it's been a while since you described her, call her "redhead" in a situation where her looks might be relevant to remind the reader how she looks like.This is true and can be done, but not randomly. Make sure it's very clear who the "redhead" being talked about is, such as calling her Redhead when writing about an action the reader knows she and only she is doing.If you start throwing hair colors in a five-way conversation, everything turns into a mess.
>>2926348>If the character happens to be a princess, but that is hardly relevant most of the time and the reader may not even remember it, using princess is a mistake.Having the character be a princess, in that case, is plain irrelevant. That should not happen.
>>2926353In this case it's princess, which is extremely defining, but say it was Doctor. If a secondary character happens to be a doctor, and the reader may or may not keep that in mind, don't throw the title around just to remind them.That's a mistake a lot of writers make, and something to be kept in mind.
>>2911244I dislike Louise too much to pair her with anybody other than equally awful Saito. Karin/Marianne or Karin/Daphne would be pretty good pairings to write about though.
>>2926430That's what character development is for.
Are there any non-shit-Carol Marvel fics yet?
Well another ZnT/Overlord fic happened. Only this time it's not as good, has frankly too fast of a pace, and a yuri harem.https://archiveofourown.org/works/19790794/chapters/46853731
>>2926607>listing yuri-harem like it's a bad thingConsidering how few fics there are of the premize, ZnT/Overlord, it's kinda weird to compare them so critically. Personally I'd nitpick the use of harem, considering it's a threesome from what's in the tags
>>2926622I forgot to word that as being the sole positive. Also I don't think it's that weird to compare them.Also tags aren't entirely complete, as reading the fic reveals that Louise is going for all the girls listed.
>>2926631It's not that weird but it's, iunno how to phrase it right, there's not lot of examples so it's more likely to default to Overlady as the gold standard. An understandable thing to do, but the fact that we can count the total on one hand is kind of hamstringing options. Overlady being a gold standard should be more of a crossover/general ZnT fic standard. It's really a minor thing that likely changes from person to person.>GirlsReally? Wow, it's nice to see Monmon there, I wonder how that'll work.
>>2926638Monomon seems to be working on the basis that Louise is completely open about being poly and still being proper enough to woo her.
>>2926647Now that's a rather positive way to go about it, especially since Monmon seems rather intrigued by it. I also kinda get what anon was talking about the pacing, and while it's much quicker than usual, I can see why it might've been done. Author's just fully going with Louise being completely seduced by Overlord magic/setting and having a few minor hiccups when acquiring her base. It's rather much in line with the actual games, which are unsurprisingly on the short side of things if one is just tearing through the story. Seems to me that the author is following more of an Overlord story with the trappings of ZnT instead of a ZnT story with the trappings of Overlord...if that makes sense.
>>2926654It's rather accelerated in comparison to the games too. I think that if I did a ZnT/Overlord xover and wanted to focus more on the Overlord part, I'd mimic the 2nd game's plot
>>2901919https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12171808/1/Gods-MonstersBest ME shit i've ever read. It's all about the plot first and shipping later, though. Gay stuff IS there, of course.
>>2926656That's fair, yeah. Honestly if we're looking at it in terms of a game's plot flow the whole, iunno first five or six chapters, read as set-up/tutorial like uh the snow village level in 2 as a kid and then going back as an adult or breaking into the town in 1. Seven and up will likely focus on conquering the country or whatever...at least one would imagine.
>>2926663The mistress buildup is a bit too fast for me to really compare it to Overlord 2, but yer pretty much right about ch7 and beyond as far as i can tell. I think a smoother fusion would be to slap Louise with some isolating physical change in her childhood that her sole childhood friend would not care about like the Overlad had on top of her inability to cast magic that didn't blow up in her face. Which incidentally eliminates the whole Wardes engagement issue rather neatly.
>>29266752's mistress buildup is decently spaced out, much more so than one I'd say. It kinda reminds me of 1's because you get Rose in the middle and then like a mission and a half later you get Velvet leading to the whole decision thing. I'll wager that the mistress build up is deliberate, in as much as it can be. Most of the would-be harem is at the school, easy to just sweep up and what not while getting most of the chase out of the way.Now this is a personal like of mine, but I'm rather giddy when it comes to women and their SOs using the power of their station/abilities. Not being all scared or nervous about it but rather unabashed in it's usage. I'm also rather tickled by how they're writing Gnarl being so put out from having his typical roles covered.Also who knows, the author might go with some isolating change for Louise's childhood though I suppose it depends on how they write Henrietta further as well as any possible mention of Louise's "new" self still butting heads with her old self. All in all, it's fun. I had fun reading it but my expectations are also pretty low since most Overlord fics tend to follow a similar premise where it's harem gathering and then conquering instead of what Overlady is doing.
>>2926684Eh, it's too late for such an isolating change to have been much of a thing. It's pretty clear that Louise was very much her canon self before getting corrupted by summoning the Tower Heart.Also Overlady is hardly too different. It just leans on ZnT and takes the first Overlord game's approach to mistresses by only having the one.
>>2926685Maybe, Henrietta's rather quick acceptance of things could hint at something more but that's probably more wishful thinking on my part.Never really occurred to me that Overlady followed 1 more than both, but looking back that makes more sense now. This is making me wish there was either more interesting ZnT fics or Overlord ones.
>>2926687I think it's more of a bit of an exaggeration of how close the two were that Henrietta is so easy to accept. Perhaps also an indication that the whole Wales thing didn't happen.
>>2926695Yeah that sounds more likely instead of something more elaborate going on between Henrietta and Louise. Now for the Wales thing I don't much know about that. Guess we'll have to see, though seven chapters over the course of two days is a bit odd
>>2926697Some authors build up a backlog before posting.
>>2926699True, I just hope there isn't a long drought then since it looks like the author got the set-up all written out and then posted it
>>2926699>>2926697>>2926705This was originally posted on FFN as i remeber seeing back when there were new stories daily but i guess it was deleted
>>2926709Huh, weird. Hopefully it was the author's doing.
Anyone have reccs for high/medieval fantasy fics? Not too picky on fandom, but I found https://archiveofourown.org/series/1188721 and https://archiveofourown.org/works/15912519/chapters/37092741 the other day which sparked a desperate hunger for lady knights, sorceresses, romance and adventure.
>>2926331Thanks for the kind words. The Shimosa manga really made me want to write something with Musashi. She makes such a great pairing with Gudako.
>>2926661I wouldn't call it the best as iirc there was a weird and awkward reset (involving peeners) to get the story lined up with ME3. Also Shep retreads the loss-of-a-teammate ground from ME1 though this time it was more of a 'send her off alone so I can jump on this peener while she dies fighting for her life lmao i'm still angry though grrr'. The Brooks-Shep interactions are pretty unique and good, though, as is Sheps character growth by the time of ME3. Also the meta drama surrounding the story is bonkers.
Speaking of ME works, one that I've rather liked is this one with a sociopath fem!shephttps://www.fanfiction.net/s/8986511/1/Something-BlueStill my general issues with ME works is that I can't find all that many renegade shepard fics. Or any clonecest.
Since the topic of ME is up, any decent and length FemShepxMiranda fics? Or the ever elusive ChakwasxShepard?
>>2927411>renegade shepard ficsI assume you've read OSaBC and Sol Invictus?
>>2927415they sound vaguely familiar, but I don't think I've read em.
>>2927409>I wouldn't call it the bestWhich would call the best, then?
>>2927414>FemShepxMiranda fics?I can't remember very much about most of them, but they're in my bookmars so that means I liked them enough at some point for me to add them there, i guess.https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10238893/1/Losing-Even-Thathttps://archiveofourown.org/works/777369/chapters/1462779https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6234938/1/Everything-and-Everyone-Changes (this author has a couple more FemShepxMiranda fics but i haven't read those)https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9913383/1/The-Girl-Crushhttps://archiveofourown.org/series/110993https://archiveofourown.org/works/6614650/chapters/15134794https://archiveofourown.org/works/6044992/chapters/13860493https://archiveofourown.org/works/5182193/chapters/11939018
>>2927474Thanks sisicle, I'll give 'em a looksie over the week
>>2927464Osabc, though not for the romance stuff. His superhuman action and setpieces are balanced by grounded and sensible politics and military stuff while also having a sinister clandestine threat looming over everything. He sort of captures the essence of ME1 in my personal opinion: I always enjoyed the very rational and the mundane clashing with the grand and the unknown. And reading his side-works feels a lot like going through the compendium in the quiet moments of the game. Osabc is just very much true to ME1 while expanding on it immensely and love it to bits just for that.
>>2927632>OsabcHmmm, I guess we just seek different things in a good ME fanfic.