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Wow
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>>381116925
It's not that impressive, I can stand upright too.
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That is not the worst one.
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>>381117341
It's not? Please don't tell me they fucked up Chomp Bro.
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>>381116925
>>381117341
holy shit what? i had faith in them.

more examples?
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>>381116925
Superstar Saga comes from a different time. A time were Nintendo was barely making his franchise uniform and streamlined.
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>>381117569
>>381117492
They are using the SS engine.
Just imagine sniper bill and thing of the worst.
Toads no longer hold trumpets.
Etc.
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>>381116925
Why does Nintendo hate four legged Koopas now?
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>>381117316
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>>381116925
Thats in the Minions mode, Its not confirmed that they are the same enemy
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>remake game in new art style
>complain that it doesn't look like the original
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>>381118018
Are you an idiot?
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>>381116925
gotta homogenize the designs, my dude.
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>>381116925
This fucking company, holy fuck.
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>replacing beautiful hand crafted 2D sprites with 3D models
Does Nintendo just hate 2D now?
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>>381118761
It's actually 2D

In fact, it took them so much work to make all the sprites in Dream Team that they had to reuse the engine for 2 more games to save time and that's why we got paper jam, thank god they can't really fuck up SS too badly, can they?
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So, I'm guessing you people wanted more of a "fully 2-D animated, Day of the Tentacle" look?
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>>381118142
What game is this actually? Superstar Saga is getting an HD remake or something?
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>expecting Nintendo to not fuck up a remake
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>>381117879
>now
They've been standing upright since Yoshi's Island, at the very least.
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>>381119376
>implying Nintendo makes the Mario & Luigi games
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SS had some amazing redesigns for typical Mario baddies.
Look at this smug motherfucker. They'll probably replace him with the same old Boomerang Bro seen in NSMB and the like, and it fucking sucks.
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>>381116925
Aaand what's the issue here?
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>>381119671
Look at this newfag
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>>381120135
I can't even remember all the classic baddies that made glorious reappearances in SS. It's really going to suck not seeing them like this in the remake.
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>>381118761
All of the Mario RPG games use sprites for the characters, you retard. Paper Jam's style doesn't have outlines, so your retard ass doesn't see it.
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>>381120135
On the plus side, the Hammer Bros, Goombas, and Bowser aren't going to look completely retarded anymore.
That's worth it, right?
Right?
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>>381118761
Look at this idiot and laugh
Never doubt AlphaDream
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>>381118761
>3D models
You're retarded.
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>>381120614
>Hammer Bros
I actually think they look pretty cool. Chunky and mad as fuck.
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can't wait for this to become NSMB-ized
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>>381121235
Oh, shit, I forgot they were actual enemies. I was thinking about the guys at Border Jump
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If they fuck up my Anuboos i'm going to fucking riot.

>Inb4 normal boos with anubis headgear
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>>381121364
Someone needs to make a picture showing every example of the Mario franchise homogenization.
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>>381121364
If they change them to the current Dry Bones design, will they not have the same attack patterns anymore? No more spinning skull?
Actually now that I think of it I wouldn't be surprised if they just reuse their attack pattern from Paper Jam.
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>Complaing about a few minor sprite changes

Honestly SSS is one of my all time favorite games and i'm excited as fuck for this remake. It looks so crisp and clean and colorful.

Also, cmon guys, aren't you excited for Jokes End HD?
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As long as they don't touch my nigga I'm fine with it
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they are going to fuck with the jellyfish sisters
no more tits for me...
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the original game came from a developer that had no experience with mario. they were given freedom to adapt it to their own style
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who cares
wheres my paper mario remakes
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>>381121824
>minor
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>>381121824
Please tell me that's not legit
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>>381121824
Never played it, but the left side looks much better to me.
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>>381122063
and it had more character because of it.
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>>381121824
That looks like pure ass. Why is Neo-Nintendo even remaking this?
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>>381121824
Wow that looks bad
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>>381122318
Nintendo didn't make the original, and Nintendo isn't making the remake.
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>>381119376
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>>381121824
why is it so fucking blurry?
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>>381122318
>>381122371
>>381122168
>>381122154
Am I missing something or what's going on here? Is this bait or bad taste?
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>>381121824
I really like that they're using crisp, detailed 2D backgrounds instead of 3D like the previous two games. Looks fucking beautiful.
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>>381122525
Probably screencapped from some low-quality footage
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They're gonna ruin my nigga Sharkbone huh?
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https://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_%26_Luigi:_Superstar_Saga_%2B_Bowser's_Minions#List_of_changes
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>>381122525
youtube compression
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>>381122563
The latter. You have bad taste, anon.
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>>381122525
>>381122371
>>381122318
>>381122168
>>381122154

Are you people retarded? Can't you tell this is a very low quality picture from a youtube video?
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>>381122563
They're actually just Sony fags trying to use a low quality video screenshot as legit graphics. They like to watch too many pre-rendered cutscenes
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>>381122594
this looks a lot better, though the original still has a strong nostalgia factor for me
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>>381122652
>A tutorial for attacks displayed in battle similar to the one in Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam.
>Paper jam

NO NO NO NOOOO NINTENDO STOP MAKING US SIT THROUGH TEN MINUTES OF FUCKING TUTORIALS. PAPER JAM WAS THE WORST YET.
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>>381122594
this looks much better. I wonder if i should buy it again since I can still remember a few things from the original. Is minion mode worth it?
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>>381122971
ok now THIS is bait.
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>>381122971
are you fucking stupid? it displays how to perform them on the bottom screen, it doesn't make you sit through a tutorial.
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>>381122971
>PAPER JAM WAS THE WORST YET.
Nice bait. That was literally the only thing they actually fixed in that game.
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>>381122794
The majority of your posts are likely complaining about the change in art style, and quality of the sprites.
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>>381122971
What are you talking about? Paper Jam was the first M&L to let you skip tutorials.
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>>381122971
Nintendo isn't making this.
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>>381122594
Looking at it now, without the youtube compression, I'd agree. That looks fan-fuckin'-tastic.
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>>381116925
feralfags on suicide watch
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>>381122063
>the original game came from a developer that had no experience with mario.

Maaaaaaaybe you should look at AlphaDream's history.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04A11RRA4Fo
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>>381122652
>The Emergency Guard from Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam is added.

"Hold X to never take damage, fuck timing and skill and fun"
Literally fuck nintendo.
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>>381123083
>and quality of the sprites.
the quality of the sprites is fantastic though
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>>381123202
But Nintendo isn't making this.
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>>381123038
its not out till october.
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>>381123202
blocking doesn't deal damage though
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>>381123202
>Hold X to never take damage,
*to take half damage
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>>381119361
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI54_yxpwkY
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>Make it a rule to never own originals and remakes only one or the other
>SSDX comes out
>Still own and religiously play SSS GBA

HNGGGGG.. I might have to break my own rules. fuck.
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BATTLE THEME REMIX WHEN? I NEED TO HEAR WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE FOR THIS GAME
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>>381123258
>>381123113
Oh my god who fucking cares about your semantics
The game's gonna be shit either way
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>>381123202
Man, could you imagine if Super Mario RPG did this? That'd be awful.
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the falseflagging in this thread is incredible.
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why is nintendo so autistic about not letting anyone take any artistic liberty with the characters/enemies, they all must be displayed in the same generic artstyle as the mainline games

kinda reminds me of how Disney has all these anal rules about how you have to draw Mickey Mouse exactly right or it's some kind of blasphemy
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>>381123535
its going to be the paperjam remix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SYLQl98orI
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>>381123535
I hope it's better than the Paper Jam version cause it wasn't very good.
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>>381123318
how do you not realize that this ruins the game. late game bosses were so hard in mario and luigi because their attacks were so hard to dodge. if you can just hold x to always guard because "its easier" then it kills the fucking fun
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>>381123540
>The game's gonna be shit either way
fucking how?
they're remaking a good game and fixing the issues it had. how is it suddenly shit?
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>>381123482
Honestly I'll give in for this one, since the game is really good and was twice the length I expected it to be back when i was a kid.
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>>381123663
>Cackletta's final form
>Guard to survive
>Heal up
>Win
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>>381123643
ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS USE A TRUMPET, A REAL TRUMPET
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>>381123663
Paper Jam is many times more challenging than Superstar Saga and it had the emergency guard.
I don't think we'll have anything to worry about.

>>381123768
>surviving with 1 hp
You should invest into speed so you go first anyway.
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>>381123768
Emergency Guard doesn't protect you from death.
If you guard there, it's game over.
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>>381117759
Holy shit they're using the Serious Sam engine for the new Mario game? Good job Croteam.
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>>381123202
>Use Emergency Block to only lose half my health if I think i'm gonna fuck up
>Dodge the attack altogether to not lose any health
As it should be. If they make it slow enough that you can't just fall back on it if you see yourself about to fuck up a dodge then I'm completely ok with this.
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>>381121824
why the fuck are mario and luigi on the right not in their SSS stance like on the left? this is some shitty remake. i also hate how they changed the koopas in the OP. SSS had weird enemies that fit the mario world and now it just looks like a fucking regular koopa. piece of shit
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>>381123768
>Cackletta's final form
>Stuck with 1 HP
>Guard
>Take half damage
>Die
Good job anon
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>>381116925
RUINED! FUCKING ALPHA DREAM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>381123874
You don't go first with cackletta's soul no matter your speed stat. Its scripted for 3 attacks one for each hand and one for her head.
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>>381123705
Kill yourself.
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>>381123632
This sounds fucking awful, jesus christ.
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>>381123997
fucking frog posters
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>>381122063
>tfw no english tomato adventure
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>>381122945
you cant even carlos post correctly
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>>381123768
I don't know what the damage reduction is for guarding, but you're a fag for saying it does absolutely no damage. It made an attack that does 11 damage to mario do 8 damage, and the same attack that did 8 damage to luigi take 5 damage.
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>>381123946
>why the fuck are mario and luigi on the right not in their SSS stance like on the left?
they are though, they remade sprites to replicate the original animation while adding new animations to it.
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>>381121824
it looks worse
I'd rather they re-release the original GBA game on the eshop
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>>381123705
What issues? It doesn't have any fucking major issues, it did not need a remake. All they're doing is making the artstyle more generic.
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>>381123946
>why the fuck are mario and luigi on the right not in their SSS stance like on the left?
The original idle poses and dances are back.
But the "ready" poses for defense they introduced in Dream Team are back as well so that's what you're seeing there since Hoohooros goes first.
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>everyone complaining about the emergency block which you can ignore
ffs, that's not the vital change that makes the game crap, the following is:
>Advanced Bros. Attacks are now separately selected and cost more Bros. Points to use.
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>>381123946
Reusing assets is cheaper than making new ones. Need a new koopa enemy? Just recolour a pre-existing sprite, and add an addition to his head LOL. Who fucking cares that the original game had a different design? You expect us to make an updated quadrupedal koopa sprite? Nah, this is much easier.
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>>381123779
Holy shit, fucking this. Why the fuck didn't they do an orchestra song for it, like every other fucking song in Dream Team and Paper Jam. Thats bullshit on their part, and if they pull that shit again with this remake, im out.
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>>381123946
If you actually watch the video they remade all the idle animations from the original game. Looks great. Skip to 3:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm1lHm9jzC0
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>>381124008
Huh, really? Show's what I know.
In fairness it's been a while since I've played And I never invested in speed because the game is so easy I didn't care about going first
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>>381124149
This change is completely stupid.
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>>381123768
>Guarding at 1HP
You moron, you'll still take damage and die
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>>381123578
exactly. nintendo has completely gone braindead when it comes to what makes games fun, good difficulty curves are super monumental when it comes to game design. a hold x to win simulator or "die once to get an invinsibility suit to take you to the end of every level"/emergency guard. only fucks up their games and makes them boringly easy. its why their sales aren't as good anymore, no one is liking their hand holdy ass garbage (not just the yoshi/kirby/mario games suffer from these bad design choices but just about all their 1st party titles). i'm surprised nintendo even makes new fans anymore
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>>381124128
But they have. It's on the Wii U eShop.
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>>381124393
>completely missing the point
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>>381124212
okay thanks mr. lazy and retarded developer.
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>>381124393
ironically, superstar saga is by far the easiest mario and luigi while paper jam is the hardest.
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>>381124393
Took the words right out of our mouths. This is looking to be another Neo-Nintendo failure and I think I speak for anyone who's played the original when I say that. Completely casualized, nothing will be a threat in a remake that literally has a "PRESS THIS TO TAKE 0 DAMAGE" button.

>>381124707
Oh no, shill, we get exactly the point. It's a casualization of a childhood classic. You can't make a positive spin on that.

>>381124776
Pulled that one out your ass, didn't you?
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>>381124129
>What issues?
mandatory tutorials
poor balancing issues
shit enemy level curve which makes the game too easy
some remixes will probably fix some of the ear grading music from the original
>All they're doing is making the artstyle more generic.
no they aren't, i do agree with some cases like making the enemies in OP's pic look like regular koopas but for the most part the sprites are far more expressive than the originals and some expressions are more exaggerated/cartoonish.
>>381124149
they did that to better balance them since some advance techniques were blatantly better than the original and completely shit on all the enemies/bosses.
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>>381124393
nice cherry picking
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>people will get to enjoy SS who would otherwise have not given it a second glance
>more artistic interest in the characters
Double neat.
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>>381124853
>we get exactly the point.
The point was that post was a joke. Because Mario RPG had a guard option.
You colossal fucking moron.
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So which is better?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOC0ig2Rk1g
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgdP7NW9uJY
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPYki-9eO4Y
or lastly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCvYVL1FySc
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>>381124853
>Pulled that one out your ass, didn't you?
he's right though.
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>>381124853
>Pulled that one out your ass, didn't you?
Have you played the games?
Superstar Saga is insultingly easy. Even without abusing mush badges you can beat nearly every boss in like 2 or 3 turns.
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>>381124853
Except the Emergency Guard doesn't even reduce damage by half, let alone down to zero.
If you guard all day, you're just going to lose.

Plus, Nintendo isn't even making this.
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>>381124995
Victory In the Dream World
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>>381124776
Partners in Time is the easiest, followed by Superstar Saga.
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>a modern Nintendo game is lifeless and mediocre, blatantly inferior to games of the past
wow, shocker!
Did anyone actually expect this to be good? I'm sure the entire game will be slowed down to a crawl as well
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>miyamoto is forcing them to use the NSMB artstyle
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>>381124853
i haven't played superstar saga in a long time, so i don't remember if it was as easy as people are saying. i do remember enemies were very hard, especially in the area where they use the doctor mario enemies, and final cackletta.

but when i played through paper jam, that was a hard game. i actually don't even think i beat it. i got to the final bowser where he goes holographic or something and just put it off and never went back
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>Mario fans shit on M&L+BM
>Metroid fans praise Samus Returns
Who was in the wrong here?
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>>381124995
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrAYVhPU-9g
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Who the fuck shitposts about M&L?
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>>381124995
You posted them in order of best to least great.
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>>381125382
Wait, the Metroid fans were mad at Samus Returns? Why?
I'm guessing AM2R was part of that?
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>>381124853
He's right tho. You can beat some Superstar Saga bosses in like 4 turns. Meanwhile, the bosses in Paper Jam can do a lot of damage at once and have different gimmicks that can fuck you over, like Ludwig/Larry using cards
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>>381125487
you need glasses
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>>381124995
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up88zQxhKVc
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>>381125487
Wait, misread that. Never mind.

Anyway to answer your question, Nintendo was kind of wrong for taking the generic road, but the fans are also wrong for not snapping up a chance at getting more liberty-taking Mario.
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>>381125298
This. It's depressing to anyone who isn't an underage cuck.

>>381125382
Both fanbases are shitting on both games
>MLSSBM has lifeless NSMB artstyle on behest of Miyamoto and "PRESS X TO TAKE 0 DAMAGE"
>Samus Returns is being entirely handled by Mercury Steam, a great indicator of how much Neo-Nintendo "cares" for the integrity of their IPs, plus coming off the shutdown of AM2R

>>381125236
>I'm sure the entire game will be slowed down to a crawl as well
That's exactly what happens. Don't trust Neo-Nintendo with good games.
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>>381125575
>>381125401
Was mainly going for the generic battle theme.
I gotta admit, while Dream Team and Bowser's Inside Story have great final boss tunes, the boss theme from Mario RPG is still my favorite.
Might be nostalgia though, I played that game pretty young.

Count Bleck's theme is also great.
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>>381123907
kek
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Fucking called it from the second those eshop icons leaked. This is beyond retarded. I kept to myself when they decided to make every future Mario game homogenized as fuck, I shut my mouth when they fucked up the look of 64 on the DS but now they're retroactively shitting on the artstyle of my favorite M&L game? Get the fuck out of here.
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It looks like shit
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>>381125741
>NSMB artstyle
>Neo-Nintendo
>Miyamoto Boogeyman
awful bait
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>>381125765
Fawful has pretty snazzy theme too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCd7XMkudfg
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>people complaining about the new sprites
>I'm just eagerly awaiting Jellyfish Sisters in bigger, higher quality sprites

I hope this game gets us more Superstar Saga porn.
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To reiterate a previous point, is this pic related more in line to what people wanted from this remake?
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>>381126030
Why are they so lewd?
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>>381126161
yes
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>>381125962
Reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okuoqcgwNW4 at the start.
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>>381125741
Not in the metroid threads I've been in.
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>>381126161
Absolutely.
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>>381126161
People would still scream at how smooth everything looks, and act like they didn't even try to remake the game.
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>One shot Cackaletta's spirit with Chopper Bros
shit's broken as fuck
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There's already a product for people who want the original artstyle; it's called Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga for the Game Boy Advance. It's the same exact shit as when Nintenbros bitched about Wind Waker HD having too much bloom; well then fucking play regular Wind Waker again.
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>>381124393
>i'm surprised nintendo even makes new fans anymore
they don't, kids these days are playing Minecraft, watching LPs or playing Supercell games on their tablet. Consoles are for old men and Nintendo is completely irrelevant to them
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>>381126030
They're going to be bloopers with a different colored ribbon
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>>381126161
This is exactly what I wanted.
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>>381124995
SMRPG = PM > SSS > TTYD
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>>381116925
as long as they don't get rid of the DSP toad in the little fungitown game center I'm good
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>>381126161
people would still bitch and whine even if they did high quality version of the original. it's sad that people will ignore all the gameplay improvements a remake does, and focus solely on the artstyle which is the most subjective part.
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>>381126030
Oh shit I forgot about them, they better not fuck them up.
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>>381126346
with that logic they could just call literally any fucking thing the SSS remake, why not? Just play the original if you don't like it after all :^)
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>>381122652
>While still appearing to be able to switch places, Mario will always use the A Button and Luigi will always use the B-Button, regardless of which brother is in front.

FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUCKKKK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>381126346
People aren't particularly fond of seeing something they enjoy get shit on.
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>>381122594
Man that looks good
>tfw too poor to buy both this and Meturoido
I'll have to go for Metroid this time, sorry alphadream
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>>381116925
Wow they know nothing about what made the original good
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>>381123482
Tonight I will make you break your one rule
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>>381126161
Yes, I hate the new artstyle.
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>>381126550
>gameplay improvements
>it'll probably be noticably slower paced (SSS was fast as fuck, battles start and end really quickly, you get your exp and back to the overworld in seconds) with more limited bros moves, probably even remove certain unlockable bros attacks and add in the shitty Bros Items as a replacement
Nintendo WILL fuck this game up, believe you me
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>>381126810
the superstar saga remake does not look terrible. Nostalgia kiddies need to stick with the original if they're this assblasted about nothing.
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>>381126981
>probably even remove certain unlockable bros attacks and add in the shitty Bros Items as a replacement
they're using the original bros moves
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>>381126161
It didn't need a remake
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>>381126030
i will definetly try drawing porn of em
also gonna shill it too my drawfag friends over discord so i can make em draw it too
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>>381127094
yes it does
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>>381116925
I just wanna play the 2nd campaign that's being released with the game

I'm down for this weird tactics game with Paratroopas, Shy guys and Goombas
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>>381127254
no it doesn't
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>>381116925
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>>381119376
>>381122971
>>381123202
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>>381123768
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>>381125236
>>381125298
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>>381125916
Why are these threads 90% cheap bait? The previous one had dozens of posts pretending the game has 3D models.
Since when does M&L attract this much shitposting? Even Metroid threads are a paradise in comparison. I fucking hate this shithole.
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>>381116925
If you motherfuckers don't buy this I'll hunt you all down.
They're using this to see if we want real Mario RPG's back.
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>>381117759
>The /ss/ engine
But Baby Mario is in the next one
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>>381127478
/vr/
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>>381126810
>Remaking the game using a new engine and adding in a fun little mode
>Some of the original sprites wouldn't make the transfer over to the new artstyle so I'm gonna say that the original is forever tarnished

Nobody cares you dramatic little bitch, remakes don't tarnish old games; if they did then Silent Hill 2 and 3 would be forever pieces of shit because of their HD collections.
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>>381126981
But WHY would they do those things? I imagine they know who they're making this for.
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>>381127478
>literally any criticism is bait
fuck off already
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>>381122516
I don't understand this comparison. Both games have extremely different gameplay and styles. Sunshine was the continuation of 64, which was then succeeded by Galaxy and now Odyssey.
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>>381127094
I will in fact stick with the original. TORtanic had all the fanboys saying shit like "lol so long then, don't let the door hit you on the way out XD" before they were crying about the lack of any community, it'll happen with Nintendo if they don't pull their heads out of their asses.

BoTW was a fluke as far as I'm concerned at this point in time. Monolith did an amazing job on that games world while Zelda Team fucked around making a big whopping FOUR dungeons.
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>>381127782
People who missed out on playing superstar saga, who are used to the quality of current mario and luigi games?
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>>381127708
Yes, they do. They influence the opinion of the games in the long term, because people who have yet to experience it will likely just play the latest release.
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>>381127880
>Sunshine was succeeded by Galaxy

lul
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>>381127880
>Odyssey
looks more like a crappy collectathon than a 3D Mario game.
How do you make a Mario game where jumping isn't the most important thing you can do? This game will fizzle the fuck out, at least 64 and Sunshine had action and platforming, not just wandering around 'transforming' into things that can't even jump
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>>381125575
>Fight Against a Somewhat Stronger Monster
lel, what a title
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>>381127868
>criticism
Most of those posts are from the same shitposter, probably OP, who keeps using buzzwords like NeoNintendo and posting old bait pictures.
Nice try though.
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>>381128380
Okay so how many fucking games have we had with Mario where jumping's the most important? Christ forbid Nintendo tries to change shit up.
>Every journalist on the planet names Odyssey their game of the show and probably GOTY
>You actually think a 3D Mario platformer will just "fizzle out"
Holy fuck this delusion
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>>381126161
this, with some slight improvements here and there.
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>>381128863
Gonna need a comparison there, didn't get that far unfortunately.
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>>381128391
If you like those titles, Earthbound has better titles

https://youtu.be/h71-oCBuJ3k
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>>381128380
This. It's just another game taking the open world pill and abandoning everything that made its series great.

>>381127898
Great choice. Can't say the same about the shit eaters that unironically think this disgrace of a remake looks in any way good. I hope it flops.

>>381128115
This. If you buy this garbage you are the cancer killing a perfectly good series.

>>381128802
>how many fucking games have we had with Mario where jumping's the most important?
Literally all of them. Mario without jumping/platforming is like a pizza without pizza dough: it's just a mess.
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>>381128863
they replaced the crabs with blue bloopers?
why?
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>>381128863
>They made them fucking bloopers

Thats it i'm done.
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>>381128863
Fake? It's crabs in the trailer.
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>>381129045
are you retarded? that's not even the part of the game where the jellyfish sisters appear
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>>381128959
I'll level, I'm guessing you just wanted more levels with shit-tons of parkour opportunities?
Because it kinda looks like Odyssey has those, albeit with a more open-world feel.
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>>381128802
>WHY SHOULD A MARIO GAME HAVE JUMPING?!?!
what in the fuck?
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>>381128863
Nice edit faggot.
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>>381128863
Jesus fuck, this remake gets exponentially worse the more we hear about it.

>>381129051
Did we watch the same trailer, shill? Now we have full confirmation that this is just another soulless cashgrab remake. The only non-faggot option now is to boycott.

>>381129180
Did you play the fucking game?

Oh wait you're just Reggie damage controlling this Neo-Nintendo blunder, carry on.
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>>381129253
You're trying too hard. Put some effort into it.
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>>381129253
>Did you play the fucking game?
Yes, I actually did play Superstar Saga, and that part is when you land in Oho Oasis after the Beanstar explodes. The Jellyfish Sisters are in Gwarhar Lagoon.
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>>381122516
Sunshine is better in the looks department imo
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>>381129180
are YOU retarded? That's obviously the island that was litered with crabs, now replaced with bloopers
>implying you even played the original game and aren't just shitposting or worse, shilling
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>>381129408
see
>>381129245
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>>381129245
>>381128863
>there is one guy dedicated to shitposting this game to this extent
Literally why?
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>>381129378
I wasn't talking about that, I was talking about the crabs being replaced with Bloopers. It's fucking soulless now.

>>381129408
You can bet on the fact that he's shilling bro. This remake has been torn apart so hard by fans of the original, like you and me, that they have to resort to this tactic.
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>>381129253
Anon do you ever get tired? First Sun and Moon, now this? You really need a break after awhile.
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>>381129245
wow
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>>381129045
>>381129051
>>381129180
>>381129245

I was jsut having fun and hoping for a lugh or two, Not sure what
>>381129253
>>381129378
>>381129408
Is shitposting about.
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>>381129236
Neo-Nintendo shills hate keeping the soul of a series intact. Of course they don't want jumping in a Mario game.

Odyssey will be the fucking bane of this series I swear, fucking open world memeshit.
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>>381129245
>>381128863
Someone has too much free time.
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>>381129843
M-MERELY PRETENDING
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>>381124053
>>381122063
>tfw no Tomato Adventure remake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO_RbKhYdOY
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>>381129843
what the fuck is going on in this thread
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>>381129959
It took me literally a minute to recolor a paper jam blooper. and add a blur in Photoshop Hardly any time at all.

>>381129972
Again, I'm not the shitposting faggot who seems to hate everything Nintendo.
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>>381121824
>minor
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>>381122525
3ds
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>>381121824
How blurrier can they get?
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This is the last game I expected to deserve of getting shitposted with on /v/.
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>>381128959

I smell a Pokebarneyfag.
>>381129565
>Literally why?
Trust me, this man (or rather, manchild) thinks that he's doing something significant by posting the same images over and over again, such as https://boards.4tan.org/v/search/image/JuyuBs20_R7a-yUvr6WzxQ/ which has been posted LITERALLY 336 times.
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>>381130458
Agreed, though upon seeing OP's pic, I am not surprised at all by the resulting rage.
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>>381130484
>you will never shitpost hard enough that infographs are made about you
;_;
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>>381130593

Oh no! A turtle stood up! Everything is ruined!
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>>381124393
I fucking hated how Nightmare in Dream Land handled enemies onscreen
>run foward for 2 seconds
>running enemies spawn before you can react
>get hit
>need to move carefully to avoid getting hit by fast enemies
Super Star never had this shit, thankfully
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>>381130484
>using cuck in an abrasive manner

That's half of 4chan and 25% of lInternet you absolute retard.
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>>381130712
My point. Mario RPG fans thrive on the originality and distance from the main series that they bring. Take that away, or have a style more akin to the main games, and they riot.
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>>381130458
if it actually looked good nobody would be shitposting about it, but instead of a glorious HD remake on the Switch we get ugly models and awful design decisions like forcing Mario to jump with a (even when he's behind luigi) on the fucking 3DS, an ancient piece of hardware with a shit screen.
We'll give Nintendo praise when they deserve it, these half assed soulless remakes of our childhood favorites on mediocre hardware aren't exactly cutting it in 2017
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>>381126427
thats still pretty hot
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>>381130694
Does ACfag have one?
He would deserve it more than this guy.
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>>381130929
>like forcing Mario to jump with a
I fail to see the problem with that. Seems like something one could easily adjust to.
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>>381130929
>models

Anon, they're sprites. They've always been sprites. They've NEVER used models in Mario and luigi, EVER. Even paperjam is all sprites.

https://www.spriters-resource.com/3ds/marioluigipaperjam/
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>>381126030
>bigger
everything we've seen so far has been really small on the screen
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>>381130128
>this whole fucking thread
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>>381130929
>we get ugly models
they're sprites
>awful design decisions like forcing Mario to jump with a (even when he's behind luigi) on the fucking 3DS
thats something that is incredibly easy to adjust to.
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>>381130929
You can stop now.
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>>381130484
Pokebarneyfag has a different kind of autism
this is a new shitposter
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>>381130813
kirby is a powerhouse. he has tons of health and can kill everything in 1 hit for a reason. throwing tons of enemies at you and destroying all of them is what makes the kirby games fun. when you take that away and only put 1-2 enemies on screen so "people can beat the game easier and maybe we can make new fans who are kids since they obviously will like the easiness" you ruin the ENTIRE appeal of the game that made such hardcore fans to begin with.

difficulty curve is a monumental aspect of good game design and is way more important than people on here think. and its why no one likes nintendo games anymore (and holy fuck don't even get me started on the yoshi series)
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>>381130484
every time shit like this happens, theres one mega shitposter who makes it look like everyone who has a negative opinion is a raving autist so nobody can actually say anything close to a dissenting opinion because the fanbase will just refer to it as the shitposter and ignore any possible flaws or problems
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>>381131076
sprites that look like 3D models, truly the worst
>>381131063
it's not something you should have to adjust to, it's intuitive that Luigi would jump with 'a' when he's in front
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>>381130813
Nightmare in Dreamland was not a very good remake
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fuck bros... first we don't get monster hunter and now nintendo shits this garbage down our necks...
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>>381131312
>Every kirby game
>Is missing Robobot and Fighters deluxe

Lies.
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>>381131312
Kirby has always been shit for literal babies incapable of playing even Mario, who gives a fuck.
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>>381127478
Not only are you a fucking quoteposter, but you seem to not understand the whole point of the "game" is to bait and respond to bait.
Fuck off you autistic newfag
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>>381131053
i rememvee ac fag once said mario 64 was not a fully gameplay oriented game because of that starting "cutscene" with peach
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>>381131338
>sprites that look like 3D models
So you're retarded AND blind?
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>>381131312
>stop with the kamikaze bullshit (Dream Land 1 had flying kamikaze but they weren't this fast)
>stop the faggy enemy respawn I forgot to mention (it worked with Amazing mirror because of its metroidvania level design)
Literally that simple, Kirby games have their own share of challenge but at least when you get hurt its your own fault, being unable to run because enemies are too fast its just dumb, its bad game design
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>>381131831
Your type is the fucking worst
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>it's another M&L thread where retards insist the sprites are 3D models followed by backpedaling where they change their minds and say the backgrounds are 3D models followed by backpedaling where they say everything's bad because they assume it's 3D
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>>381131962
the new sprites are shit, you happy now? I bet half the idle animations from the original are fucking gone, straight to the trash. Can't have personality in a Mario game in 2017, just give them all the NSMB look and rehash the same designs that they've been using since 2006
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>>381131831
Baitposters hate when their hard work is unceremoniously dismissed and they're denied satisfaction.
Lurk more faggot.
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>>381132229
>I bet half the idle animations from the original are fucking gone
>trailer and Treehouse segment literally show that they have their original idle animations, reactions, and even the dancing during battles
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>>381132148
>doesn't understand board culture
>tries to rain on someone else's parade
>on top of this, is also a blatant Nintenbro
No, I'm pretty sure (You)r type is the fucking worst
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>>381132338
kill yourself
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>>381132163
Top kek:
>>381132229
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>>381132229
look leagues better then SSS's desu
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>>381132163
>the post below this
Hearty hoohoo/10
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>>381132389
no u
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>>381131831
>quoteposter
wrong
>responding to unfunny shitposting that only exists because some turbo autist has a personal vendetta
nah, go fuck yourself mouth breather
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>>381118761
Yes which is why they go for abysmal 2.5D styles.
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>Mario & Luigi series now has an ACfag-esque poser in its threads
How bored do you have to be to pick this series of all things?
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>>381132748
>2.5D styles
Oh now I see why shitposters don't like how the game looks; they're fucking blind.
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>>381132871
I'm unfamiliar with this 'ACFag' wanker, does he laud Animal Crossing or something?
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>>381126613
Why dont you go make your own perfect little remake instead of crying about it?

Dont like the game? Don't buy it
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>>381127880
Visuals, you numbnuts. 3D World could have functioned just as well as Sunshine or Odyssey and have been similarly detailed and interesting.
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>>381132319
I like how he shut up.
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>>381126398
This is totally not true. When I was working in a kindergarten for a few weeks I talked to a lot of kids who were super into Nintendo games. Mostly Mario Kart.
Good parenting exists I guess, so, not every kid is exclusively playing pay2win shovelware on his tablet.
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>PMfags are so buttblistered that they take their frustration out on M&L threads
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>>381116925
This would look a lot better with black outlines
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I see the Paper Mario fans are still mad about Color Splash.
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>>381132894
Fuck off Nintendo Defense Force. The game is an abomination no one asked for. It looks like total ass, far worse than the original and it isn't 2D no matter how desperately you try to cry TECHNICALLY

I hate you stupid faggots so much for making nintendo so fucking bad because you praise whatever garbage they vomit up.
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>>381133004
no he just accuses games he doesn't like as cinematic movie games
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>>381133279
It is literally 2 dimensional. You're just wrong.
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>>381133215
Real paper mario fans aren't. TTYD purists and shitposters are. TTYD is in my top 10, and I fucking loved color splash.
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>>381133279
Tone it down, dude. Posts should be somewhat believable.
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ITT: it's new so it's bad
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I need some HD sprite massages.
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>>381133281
>>381133473
I see. AC refers to Armored Core then.

>>381133279
Even so, the game is probably going to be just fine regardless of the graphics.
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>>381118761
It's not 3D, it's just really really shitty and bland 2D sprites.

Since the DS days one of my most wanted games has been a fully 3D Mario & Luigi on home consoles, with graphics that match the stunning concept art.
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>>381133409
>>381133469
>>381133535
>>381133449

I will never go online with a nintendo device. The fanbase is profoundly casual.
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>>381133146
>>381133215
Meanwhile they're still begging for a TTYD remake after that interview.
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>>381133683
>it's just really really shitty and bland 2D sprites
>posts PiT which has the absolute WORST sprites/animation for the bros walking
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>>381122063
>they could have localized Tomato Adenture for the virtual console instead of making this shitty remake
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>>381133683
It's purposely made to look 3D to give the illusion that the games have advanced technically, even if they look much worse they have to look like a 3DS game.
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>>381133004
AC is for Armored Core.
He's a famous Metroid shitposter who believes the following:
>if a game has ANY kind of cutscene it's a cinematic experience and absolute shit (this even includes the likes of Bayonetta and BotW)
>if a game has attractive characters it's absolute shit
>if a game has violence it's absolute shit
>if a game has bad threads on /v/ it's absolute shit
>if a game is on consoles is absolute shit
>if a game has DLC is absolute shit
>everyone loved Other M except him
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>>381133974
>because of this remake they didn't localize Tomato Adventure
those are some big straws you're grasping for
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>>381133279
Holy shit you ARE this genuinely mad over a fucking video game.
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>>381133683
>it's just really really shitty and bland 2D sprites.
they look really good though. the animations look really fluid and they're super expressive because of the amount animations. also partners in time is by far the worst looking game in the series.
>a fully 3D Mario & Luigi on home consoles, with graphics that match the stunning concept art.
>3D
at least make it 2D to make it look like the concept art as that would look way nicer.
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>>381123169
The fuck are you talking about? SSS was their first Mario game.
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>>381133683
>>381133836
Seriously, Partners looked like fucking shit compared to the game before it and everything after it.
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>>381133215
I mean I'm only mad cause it's not an rpg.

I don't even want another TTYD, I just want something new and not homogenized. Hell I'll take another Super Paper Mario over that crap.
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>>381131312
You must be like super gay.
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>>381134240
Fuck off
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>>381120994
Yes, they never fail to make sprites that look like putrid cowshit compared to the first 3 games in the series.
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>>381134312
>DELETE THIS
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>>381134363
This. Those games looked god tier. They absolutely nailed the incorrect perspective.
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>>381134312
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>>381134363
Looks amazing desu, love DT's spritework. It's so well animated people confuse it for 3d models, now that's a testament to its quality.
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>>381133836
>>381134240
Calm yourselves, it's just an example of the concept art, which you would need to have absolutely abhorrent taste to not think looks great.

Besides, PiT still looks about fifty times better and richer with personality than any of the 3DS games.
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>>381134363
Anon, just come out and say Metal Slug's sprites look like shit.
You're already trying hard enough to be a contrarian.
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>>381134742
>Calm yourselves, it's just an example of the concept art
I like how things you don't like are automatically "soulless" or "lacking in charm." Could you be any more biased?
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>>381123578
People actually use a hack to do that
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>>381134742
>PiT still looks about fifty times better and richer with personality than any of the 3DS games.
nigga, dream team had tons more personality than fucking partners in time. partners in time is by far the worst entry in the series.
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>>381134956
Fuck off retard
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Does all of this even matter? Even if this game flounders from an art-style standpoint, it seems to be, for the most part, perfectly fine otherwise.
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>>381131154
Im gonna go jack off to Marty's sister now
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>>381134742
>PiT still looks about fifty times better and richer with personality
I'd believe you if you said BIS
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>>381135107
retard
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>>381134956
Looks like shit.
What happened to all the soul and the charm?
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>>381127220
I like how you think
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>>381135206
It isn't. You are just a dumb fanboy that can't tell the difference between a good game and a bad game.
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Remember me, bitches
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>>381135301
sure
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>>381135301
this
the remake confirms the fact that superstar saga was never good
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SSS=9/10
PIT=7/10
BIT=8/10
DT=5/10
PJ=5/10
SSSDX=2/10

If you play and enjoy the series after BIT you are retarded.
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>>381135154
>F-FUCK OFF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Wew
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>>381135487
What was the matter with Dream Team?
>judging games that aren't even out yet
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>>381135417
Why are the graphics so much worse in all the mario + luigi games than they were in the 1996 Mario RPG for the SNES?
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>>381135487
fag
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>>381135487
>the game that removed Bros. Attacks for the rest of time, had you carry two screeching babies, and reskinned one alien to be all enemies gets a 7
Everything after SSS was objectively bad.
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Oct 6 are you kidding me
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>>381135651
Super Mario RPG was ugly.
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>>381135709
PIT being terrible is a shitposting meme to make the other games look better by false comparison.
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>>381135487
PIT sucks you dumb nostalgiafaggot.
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SSSDX added to the impossible to discuss list
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So does this mean more Bowletta porn or
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>>381135487
SSS=8/10
PiT=6/10
BiS=8/10
DT=8/10
PJ=7/10
SSSDX=not out yet

if you think any of the games are bad then you're retarded
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>>381135808
You take that back.
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>>381134956
I agree, the concept art is great, hence why I said I'd like a home console a game that properly emulates it. Too bad jetboard bash doesn't look anywhere near that good in-game.

>I like how things you don't like are automatically "soulless" or "lacking in charm"

I never said either of those things.
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NEW POPPLE THEME LEAKED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUQ9lCQbmHk
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>>381135854
As if just about everything post-NSMB wasn't already on that list.
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>>381135835
the truth is not a meme
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>>381135854
It's easy to discuss. You are either correct and say the game is fucking trash or a dumb fanboy who defends it.


>>381135909
Nintenbros really don't know the difference between a good game and a bad game.
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>>381135972
>(Beta Mix)
Get your stupid LE GRAND DAD NUTSHACK meme shit out of here.
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>>381121824
>posting a screenshot from a youtube video
Fucking christ you people
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>>381136040
>You are either correct and say the game is fucking trash
Okay, I admit it
Superstar Saga was always fucking trash
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>>381124995

Step the FUCK back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMDyMvL5G7g
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>>381135835
>no overworld
>babies
>0 side content
>most linear in the series
>tedious 4 buttons gameplay
>bro attacks as items break the game
>mediocre writing
>enemies don't even talk for 99% of the game
It's shit.
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>>381135808

It really is. I've been replaying it recently, and a lot of the texture work is just terrible
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>>381135916
I adore the game, but I'll never say it looks good.
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>>381136213
>tedious 4 buttons gameplay

confirmed game is just too hard for casual Neo-nintendo
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>>381136347
>tedious means hard
Anon get that tedious dick out of your mouth
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>>381136278
>texture work
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>>381136347
>DS game
>not neonintendo
hello underage
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>>381136171
Oh baby
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>>381117759
why are they using the sticker star engine.
makes 0 sense
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>>381136040
>Nintenbros really don't know the difference between a good game and a bad game.

You said it. Fucking tired of these fanboys trying to defend 2017's biggest blunder.
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>>381136347
Notice how I didn't even mention in combat.
It's just as tedious during exploration and it has nothing to do with difficulty.
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>>381136459
Anon, you know most things in SMPRPG were 3D models turned into sprites, right?
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>>381124995
How have I never noticed the similarity between SSS and Mario RPG's battle themes, I feel like I've just found god
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>>381136668
no but that makes sense
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>>381136641
>Different style equals biggest blunder of the year
Seriously? There's nothing that's even remotely worse than that's coming out soon or is already out?
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>>381130484
>>381136641
Like pottery.
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>>381136641
I was in literal awe of people who though Sun and moon looked good and even more amazed when people kept claiming it was good after release.
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>>381130484
>>381136641
Wow, that's kind of sad.
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mario rpg threads have really went downhill
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>>381130484
>genwunner

cancer
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>>381136062

https://youtu.be/KEXkgKoldmk
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>>381136930
Just like the games
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>>381136641
>tfw it was pokebarneyfag the entire time
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>>381136641
>generic Pokemon game
>worse than Star Fox Zero and Color Splash
I don't know what's worse: you being a hypocritical furry or you being a bitter Paper Mario fan.
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>>381136641

Sun & Moon were better than X & Y in every way this is bait.
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>>381137245
>tfw sneaking suspicion that pokebarneyfag is just cody
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>>381136641
>Sun & Moon
>blunder
Epic. Simply epic. :')
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>>381137426
>>381137189

It's amazing how far neo-nintendo fans will go to ignore the reality of how bad the games nintendo puts out are. Sun and Moon is terrible, worse than XY which was also terrible which was worse than Black and white which was terrible. Play prism or some shit.
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>>381137189
>a dude like this actually exists
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>>381137642
How were Sun and Moon and Black and White terrible?
Bad Pokemon designs do not equal bad game
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>>381123779
This post is giving me flashbacks to Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire's butchered soundtrack.
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>>381137642
shut up pokebarneyfag
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>>381137642
all pokemon games are the same. if you think some are worse that means there are games you like and if you like any pokemon game you're a certified autist
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>>381137873
>this is what neo-nintendo actually believes
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>>381137963
so you admit that you like shitty pokemon games and admit that you are legitimately autistic
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What are the odds of getting the best idle animations back?
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>this thread
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>>381134090
Never said that. Learn to reading comprehension.
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>>381138097
What the fuck do you mean "what are the odds"
Have you faggots even watched the gameplay segment
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>>381138097
Blech, I hope that's not what people wanted for the remake. They look terrible.
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>>381136641
>Not No Man's Sky or MN9 in 2016
>2017 not being Bethesda's e3 conference
>Xenoblade 2 coming in 2017.
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>>381138097
They're literally one of the first things shown during the Treehouse stream.
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>>381130484
I'm skeptical of "Pokebarneyfag" existing because I've seen threads on /vp/ where anyone and everyone who criticizes XY/ORAS/SM gets called "Pokebarneyfag with a proxy" by one really angry guy.




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