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The plot is a fucking Forces tie in. Holy shit, the gameplay looks great but that's still a huge disappointment.
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LITERALLY looking for reasons to bitch.
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>>387044236
I guess 3&k is shit as well since it ties with adventure
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>>387045098
but both of those are good

sonic forces is guaranteed ass
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>>387045098
It also ties in with Adventure 2.


S3&K set up plot points that would set up various games.
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>>387044236
>caring about story
Fuck off casual
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>this great game ties in to a game I don't care about therefore this game is shit
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>>387044834
Honestly, the gameplay, level design, visuals and music are all 10/10. The only things holding Mania back are the rehash stages and that dumbass plot that associates it with what might just be the worst Sonic game yet.
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>>387045343
>what might just be the worst Sonic game yet.

You are way, WAY overblowing that.

The game has me disinterested because it takes Sonic Generations and doesn't do a lot differently. That means inherently the game is alright, it's just phoned-in as fuck. It's probably going to be a competent game but they refuse to push the design envelope.
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this
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>>387044236
Go to bed Arin Hanson
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>>387045424
Pretty much although I think the Modern Sonic stages might have some unique stuff attached to it but Classic Sonic has no reason to be in this game especially when Mania will blow it out the water
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>Caring about the story in a 2D Sonic game
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Guys, will sonic forces suck?
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>>387044236
that's unfortunate, but I was going to completely ignore the story anyway. So it's not a big deal
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>>387045771
I think it's highly dependent.

If you're like me and think boost Sonic is dull, classic Sonic doesn't play right, and Wisps are completely out of place in anything outside of Sonic Colors (and anything contextually relating to it) then there isn't a whole lot going for Sonic Forces. The story seems interesting and the custom hero could be a decent shake up but to me that means we're headed into Sonic Unleashed territory (where the game is decent and fun but not as a Sonic game).

But if you appreciate Sonic Generations and don't have any issues with the Wisps, then this game is a decent evolution over Generations and could be compelling.
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>>387045750
Story is what makes Sonic 360 unsalvageable for me.

Even if the game actually worked, I'd be pissed off at having to follow the context of this completely inane and confusing series of events.
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>>387045771
Undoubtably so, and it won't have the excuse that "it was supposed to be in development for much longer" like 06 or the "It's an AU game that wasn't made by Sonic Team anyway" excuse from Boom
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>>387045997
Get your head out of your ass, I haven't seen anything that actually looks BAD, just stale.
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>>387044236
why does it matter?
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>>387046085
That's why fpbp.
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What if sega gets the mario odyssey team to make a new 3d sonic game?
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>>387046157
You'd get another Sonic Lost World.
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>>387046157
You'd get sonic colors 2.
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>>387044236
>caring about story in Sonic games
What's next, caring about story in Kingdom Hearts, Mario and Dark Souls?
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>>387045343
>with what might just be the worst Sonic game yet.
I don't much like the look of Forces but no, not by a long shot.
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>>387046058
>Get your head out of your ass, I haven't seen anything that actually looks BAD, just stale.
Laughing my ass off
>The character creator, which fans have been saying for years would only be implemented once the series was dead beyond revival
>The same rehashed stages AGAIN
>Classic Sonic physics still trash
>Modern Sonic still a linear hallway mix of 2D/3D
>Plot and villain is meant to pander to the "ironic edgy" crowd because Aaron the "based" PR guy thinks the only way to save the franchise is through memes
>Music so far is all dogshit
What's there to like, honestly?
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>>387045343
>what might just be the worst Sonic game yet
Nigga I PLAYED Shadow the Hedgehog
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Sonic 2 is fucking shit, this gay ass Tails is just here to advertise the Tails Skypatrol on Gamegear. Fucking shills. Sonic is dead
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Honestly, if Forces is just more Generations, I'll be happy.
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>>387045771

I can't suck, but it wont be amazing. Basically a more original sonic generations, which is okay with me. They already tried "something new" with lost world and failed, I'd rather have them go back to what works.
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>>387046738
>Nigga I PLAYED Shadow the Hedgehog
Yeah same. Honestly probably in my top 5 sonic games.
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>>387046780
>Being happy about the soon-to-be worst game in the entire franchise
You're the cancer that's killing this series
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>>387045098
>>387045227
I've missed having a degree of continuity in this series.
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>>387046724
All of that adds up to just being "okay".

I have a lot of problems with Forces but it's mostly results in the game being in a rut than it does completely unplayable schlock.
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>>387046842
Contrarian shit, ignored.
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>>387045157
Mr future man, tell me more.
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>>387046724
>Plot and villain is meant to pander to the "ironic edgy" crowd because Aaron the "based" PR guy thinks the only way to save the franchise is through memes
Aaron doesn't write the games, everything we've seen of Infinite and the premise of the game has been played completely straight.
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So, Cybershell. Who is he and why does everyone hate him?
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>>387044236
When do the reviews release anyways? I'm hoping this game gets a crazy high metacritic.
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>>387046969
Generations was NOT that good buddy.
Not even that anon, but the bosses were pretty shit, the levels were unmemorable (aside from being from previous sonic games), the extra challenges were a mixed bag but ultimately just felt tacked on.
It was like a 4/10 game. It's only saving grace was that it came around the same time as unleashed.
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>>387047481
He was probably reffering to the idea that Forces will be the worst game in the whole Sonic franchise.
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>>387044236
shut the fuck up

You don't play Sonic for the fucking story,you play it to test your platforming skills and to satiate the GOTTA GO FAST hunger

judging by the ending of Mania,it's also safe to presume that just like Generations,Classic Sonic is going to return to his world at the end of Forces

I don't know why the fuck you're being such a little bitch OP
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>>387047215
>everything we've seen of Infinite and the premise of the game has been played completely straight
Your irony detector must be broken. The Sonic PR is only on one level of irony, which makes it that much easier to tell when they're trying to appeal to the "lol memes" pseudo-normalfag (reddit/YouTube/tumblr) crowd
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>>387047481
>it came around the same time as unleashed

It launched three years later, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>387047591
What about what we've seen makes it ironic compared to previous Sonic games? How is Infinite portrayed different to Mephiles or even Shadow in SA2?
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I'd only be angry if it had Infinite and some text that said "to be continued" after the credits. I wish that they had just went with the original plot of Eggman being depressed after 3&K. It really should have just been a prequel.
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>>387047865
But it is a prequel! to Sonic Forces!
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>>387047865
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
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>>387045424

I was intrigued by Forces, even though I didn't think classic Sonic belonged. I was more intrigued when they revealed the OC creator. That's a fun, fresh thing to bring to Sonic. But then I saw all the stuff with Infinite and the cutscenes and how the game looks like the cheesiest anime weaboo shit.

Then my interest plummeted.
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>>387047865
If they went with the original plot Eggman probably will take a backseat in favor of the heavies. At least now Eggman still the main villain.
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>>387047865
It left it just vague enough that it doesn't objectively hurt the game beyond the dumb as shit new gem and the questionable lack of involvement of the Time Stones, but knowing it's tied into that edgy piece of last decade's crap does hamper my enjoyment.
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>>387047759
>How is Infinite portrayed different to Mephiles or even Shadow in SA2? Because the whole "edgy" phase of the early-mid 2000s is over. It's like how Sonic Riders is over because the skater culture has died down. Imagine if they tried to make a game like Sonic Riders, except it plays completely different, and it tries too hard to rope in the skater culture (which is dead) rather than appeal to fans of the original Riders games.
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>>387045750
>I never played S3&K: the post
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>>387048389
And as we all know Sonic Team aren't out of touch at all.
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>>387044236
>the plot is now important in a Sanic game

I think you kill yourself
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>>387044236
Well they fucked up. Could've had a 10/10 but nope, rather have a 9/10
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Why is a Forces tie in bad? Its smart for Sega to finally have marketing for their games?

Or has forces (A gens/colors/day stage) style game bad now for some reason? Sonic finally found it's Bing Bing Wahoo engine equivalent so that it can improve on it over time like Mario did with 64, so why is the 2D game being tied to it bad?

Or do people hate Colors/Gens now?
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>>387044236
>sonic games have a plot
huh, never knew this
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>>387048784
Generations/Forces/Colors are the NSMB of Sonic, except they changed the gameplay into something worse than the original.
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>>387047759
>>387048389
>>387048512
You know good and well Infinite isn't not self-aware.

If you can't see that you are blind. He is purposefully made to be 20% cooler than you, he is the ulitmate "OC Donut Steel" Bad guy. Its self aware as fuck.

Which is why its fine. Its just like how Sonic Boom references the "TOO KEWL FOR SKEWEL" stuff aka bringing back skater culture.
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>>387049235
>You know good and well Infinite isn't not self-aware
>He is purposefully made to be 20% cooler than you

Well then which is it? It doesn't make sense to contradict yourself in the same post.
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>>387046817
Horrible taste you have
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>>387049235
>He is purposefully made to be 20% cooler than you, he is the ulitmate "OC Donut Steel" Bad guy.
You mean just like Shadow was?
>This guy acts and talks the same way previous villains have, but it's self aware this time because some western comedy cartoon made by completely different people makes jokes.
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>>387049235
>Its self aware as fuck.
>Which is why its fine.
That's not how it works, you making little shit.
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>>387044236
you're a gullible chump if you expected any different
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I swear, if Shadow the Hedgehog was released today people would praise it as an ironic self-aware masterpiece.
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>>387048784
Colors and Generations were as awful as the rest of the recent games, and underaged posters too young to know any better or appreciate games despite hardware limitations kept trying to force them like a bad meme.

Make no mistake, Sonic Mania is pandering to the old crowd with the rehashed zones as hard as Sonic Forces is pandering to the underage crowd with the Generations setup, an OC creator, and a storyline very much like the crap we've been getting and '06.
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>>387048784
Colors and Generations have a good level design and some project direction at least.
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>>387044236
Who cares? it doesn't change the art or the music or the controls or the level design does it?
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>>387044236
>There's a plot
This is the biggest disappointment. Doesn't matter that it's a Forces tie-in, the plot of 3 is as complicated as it should get.
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>>387045098
You've got it backwards. Adventure builds off 3&K, 3&K didn't have any elements put into it because they knew they would be important to Adventure some day.
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>>387049683
It IS a masterpiece though
>Best homing attack in the series
>Collectables in levels serve a n in-level purpose, unlike red rings
>A ton of levels, each with multiple objectives
>Fantastic soundtrack
>Plenty of branching paths and room for exploration
>Plot is pretty edgy, but appealed well to the targeted demographic of the time period
>Phenomenal multiplayer
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>>387048336
>but knowing it's tied into that edgy piece of last decade's crap does hamper my enjoyment.
This is some Barneyfag-tier autism.
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>>387050492
No, autism is not being sickened by Infinite, the OC creator, and the absolute laziness of Forces.
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>>387049021
People hate NSMB for rehashing itself 4 times with even similar music. Colors and Generations are distinct from each other and only share an engine, your comparison makes no sense.

Fuck, when Lost World came out you little shits kept bitching they should've done another Generations instead of "trying new things". Now that they're back to the Generations style, you claim Colors and Generations are bad? Fucking make up your minds already, god damned furry autists.
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>>387050270
>Best homing attack in the series
I don't remember it being anything special but if you say so.
>Collectables in levels serve a n in-level purpose, unlike red rings
>A ton of levels, each with multiple objectives
The multiple objectives and all the collectibles aren't a good thing they're a fucking chore and blatant padding.
>Fantastic soundtrack
Outside of a few vocal themes it's very forgettable, Possibly the weakest soundtrack in all the 3D games.
>Plenty of branching paths and room for exploration
Those branching paths don't happen through natural exploration though, you have to repeat the levels and do those chores in order to get all the different endings which don't actually matter because the last story segment contradicts almost all of them.
>Plot is pretty edgy, but appealed well to the targeted demographic of the time period
I remember thinking it was retarded even as a teenager.
>Phenomenal multiplayer
The fuck are you talking about, it's a big step down from SA2 and Heroes, all the playable characters are 6 different colours of Shadow for fuck's sake.
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>>387050589
So then the majority of people are autistic.

Good to know that doesn't make sense.
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>>387050270
I really like Shadow the Hedgehog and don't get a lot of the hate.
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>>387051094
>Fuck, when Lost World came out you little shits kept bitching they should've done another Generations instead of "trying new things".
>Sonic fans are one person
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>>387051262
>Sonic fans are one person
Don't try to pull that shit on me, you damn well know they're an autistic hivemind with several missing puzzle pieces.
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>>387051105
>Outside of a few vocal themes it's very forgettable, Possibly the weakest soundtrack in all the 3D games.
>implying
https://youtu.be/EguvUh3TvGU
https://youtu.be/WiKaLm2G5dM
https://youtu.be/RglxkcgMXPQ
https://youtu.be/ETVMXs8EerQ
Do I need to continue? I'll be happy to if you want me to.
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>>387046817
Now you're just being silly
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>>387051464
>Sonic fanbase
>Hivemind
They're one of the most divided fanbases there is, where the fuck did you get the impression they're a hivemind?
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>>387049448
Those don't contradict themselves. Please look up what contradict means.

>>387049525
Shadow wasn't tounge in cheek, shadow was 100% serious.

>This guy acts and talks the same way previous villains have, but it's self aware this time because the series is self aware as a part of it's new modern branding

FTFY

>>387049573
Self Aware sonic is best sonic. Its like TFS is better than KAI
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>>387051464

>Don't try to pull that shit on me, you damn well know they're an autistic hivemind with several missing puzzle pieces.
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>>387051807
>Its like TFS is better than KAI
Not only is that blatantly not true to anyone that doesn't have a suite reddit/tumblr/YouTube sense of humor, but they're both trash
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>>387051909
>reddit/tumblr/YouTube

You mean normal , well adjusted person?
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>>387051807
>Self Aware sonic is best sonic.
DUDE BALDY MCNOSEHAIR LMAO
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>>387051807
>Shadow wasn't tounge in cheek, shadow was 100% serious.
The same can be said for Infinite, everything we've seen of him has been 100% serious
>it's self aware this time because the series is self aware as a part of it's new modern branding
The series when handled by western side of things is self aware, like Boom and the Sonic Twitter, Forces Story was written by the Japanese this time.
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>>387052085
No. Shadow was made as the blue oni character same as Vegeta/Piccolo/Saske, whatever.

Infinite is very obviously a tounge and cheek, self aware character of that.
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>>387051094
they don't share an engine
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>>387051587
it's not awful, but it's not memorable in any way.
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>>387052149
>Infinite is very obviously a tounge and cheek, self aware character of that.
You still have yet to give a reason for that from what we've seen of the character himself and not just
>Some western PR guy posts memes on twitter so everything Sonic related must be self aware.
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>>387045098

What did 3&K do for adventure? I know about the shrine that Gerald uses as a design base for Shadow but that's for Adventure 2.
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>>387051954
>You mean normal , well adjusted person?
No. I'm not sure quite how to label them, but they're not normalfags and they're not self-respecting autists like to ones that post here for legitimate discussion. They're somewhere in between. It's like that socially awkward kid in highschool that runs through the hallways, wears baggy ass clothing, constantly tries to correct people and gets insanely defensive when they're wrong. Probably sits with others like them at lunch and has trouble being sociable around anyone else. The kind of person that normalfags AND the nerdfags bag on constantly.
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>People actually care about the plot in a Sonic game
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>>387052279
Name a more memorable riff in a sonic stage theme than fucking lava shelter.
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>>387049021
>Generations/Forces/Colors are the NSMB of Sonic

Wouldn't that be Sonic 4?
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>>387051190
You want hard evidence? Even though your juvenile claim has none?
I got you.

Take a look at the Facebook icons for people commenting on the opening video to Sonic Mania:
facebook com story.php?story_fbid=10155579467167418&id=23050342417&fs=5
Well-kempt, average, some fanart, pretty decent overall.

Okay, now let's look at the commenters for the Infinite teaser:
facebook com story.php?story_fbid=10155511250222418&id=23050342417&fs=5
Anime profile pictures, a fucking meme face, hipster hair and beard-do's, smattered in with a few normal-looking people.

Okay, now you tell me which is more normal and which is more autistic. There's only one answer.
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>>387052584
Well, I can't remember it, so anything else.
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The old sonic games barely even had a plot, who gives a shit
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>>387052279
Very well
https://youtu.be/wRqZ0KXuNuk
https://youtu.be/QDsGxivYRnk
https://youtu.be/Iq1is_2VjRk
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>>387044236
Is story actually relevant in Sonic games? I don't remember anyone ever really mentioning story with classic Sonic games. And when they do include a story (Sonic 06), it's utter shit.
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>>387053272
>And when they do include a story (Sonic 06), it's utter shit.
>Riders
>Adventure
>Adventure 2
>3 & K
>Black Knight
>Secret Rings
>Shit story
Nigga
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>>387047591
Sega of Japan is known for wiping their asses with whatever Sega of America says.

The current PR staff is from SoA and we know Izuka is leading Forces.

I want to believe they are being self aware but SoJ and Sonic Team have a track record on picking on the ring things from the fandom.
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>>387046817
Really?
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>>387053201
if you think final haunt's music is good or memorable i think you're a deaf person pretending to have hearing
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>>387044236
> sonic
> story
what non autistic gives two shits about Sonic"s story? going to wine about blue arms next? Jesus Christ at least pretend not to be so pathetic and keep it to yourself
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>>387053272
the story was fat guy turns animals into robots for lolz and emeralds.
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>>387044236
That's a lot of nice proof you have....
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>>387056478
Look up the ending.
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>>387044236
Plot? In a fucking sanic game? Who the fucking shit fuck cares you faggot gook-wannabe shitsucker.
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>>387052693
They are children, not autists.
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>All these people who clearly haven't played 3&K
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>>387056559
Not him but I've seen the ending to Mania and it's just big planet exploding with Sonic'd face while he runs through and does the same pose as he did in Forces' first Trailer.

That's the only connection
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>this autist is playing Sonic Mania right now, after enjoying two dinners and a fap to traps
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>>387052461
>ice cap
>red mountain
>angel island/mystic ruins
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>>387056795
>Living the dream
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>>387044236
I kind of like that. I'm looking forward to both games and I like continuity.
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>>387053426
Unleashed has a good story too.
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Are 8bitdo controllers any good?

The saturn USB controllers are a bit too expensive these days and none of those USB sega controllers look any good.
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DSP is streaming Mania on midnight release.
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>>387058261
He probably won't be as bad as Mark.
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>>387044236
I don't see the problem with this.
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>>387058261
Was DSP always a Classic Sonic fan?
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>>387046157
I'd rather have Retro try.
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PIZZA IS FOR ME AND YOOOOU
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I've never played a Sonic game before. Thinking of getting this on Switch because of the low price point.
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>>387058615
KRUSTY KRAB PIZZA
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>>387044236
>caring for the story of a fucking sonic game
>the fucking story
of out of the games that you could choose to bitch about story, and you choose the one with the franchise with the most inconsistent one.
seriously, kill yourself
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>>387047252
He's the Verlisfy of the Sonic community
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>>387054108
Yes really

>>387055065
I mean, it's not quite Secret Rings level OST, but it's still great
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>>38705861
eeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEE
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Playable Amy confirmed yet?
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>>387058996
Ooooooh, he's one of "those" types of people?
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Reminder that Mania Sonic is unironically from a dimension where the 3D games never happened.
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>>387060107
These days I refuse to believe Modern Sonic is just a grown-up Classic. The two are different characters to me and Sega definitely seems to be trying to separate them themselves at this point.
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mega link where
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>>387056597
Age doesn't excuse poor taste.
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>>387060107
>The 3D games don't happen in the future
>They happen in another dimension

Wow what a relief. I'm so glad they're connected in one way and not the other.
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>>387045157
Why is it? What have you seen so far that looks bad?
>Inb4 edgy villain
SA1 had a supernatural cosmic horror and SA2 a literal terrorist.
>Muh OCs
A perfect way to implement a new character style without having Silver The Hedgehog, and a natural fit for the resistance theme

It's because /v/ and classicfags told you it's bad, right?
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I wonder if protodude is still around. He could've given us the Mania demo or something
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>>387061139
I think it does.
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Why can't we just completely replace eggman with the hard boiled heavies?
They are way cooler.
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What do you guys prefer, Rush or Rush Adventure?

I felt Rush had better music and level design, but Rush Adventure had better bosses and more shit to do.
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>>387045098
>>387050162
>>387052461
All this arguing over whether 3&K to Adventure is comparable to Mania to Forces.
3&K
>3
>&
>K
>Threeeee "I have fewer stages than the previous title and an underwhelming finale"
>And
>Knuckles "Pay full price for two games to get the complete story intended for one"
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>>387063070
stay tuned for sonic mania 2 where you plays as a tails and kuckles combo trying to rescue sonic
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>>387063070
>Metal koopalings
>Better than Eggman
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>>387060107
So what does that make Generations?
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>>387048389
>It's like how Sonic Riders is over because the skater culture has died down. Imagine if they tried to make a game like Sonic Riders, except it plays completely different, and it tries too hard to rope in the skater culture (which is dead) rather than appeal to fans of the original Riders games.
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>>387044236
I MUST BE DISAPPOINTED ABOUT SOMETHING
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Anyone else think the leader of the Hard Boiled Heavies looks kinda like SatAM Robotnik?
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>>387063289
The koopalings don't even come close to these guys however.
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>>387063559
This isn't "Skater culture" at all.
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>>387060039
Never.
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>>387056793
Sounds like I literally wouldn't have known it was a tie in if people here weren't constantly making threads about it. thanks /v/
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>>387063759
Have you played the game? It's Jet Set Radio with ink instead of graffiti.
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super amy a hot
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>>387063876
Stop that.
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>>387047668
I don't think He even knows what he's talking about.
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>>387063876
>Knuckles prays the great emerald power for days and years
>he doesn't have Super form since the Classic
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>>387063876
imagine how tight she can squeeze her vagina
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>>387063070
The hard boiled heavies are a great addition, especially since I always liked egg robos, but nothing replaces Eggman as the best.
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>>387063759
>Ska punk soundtrack
>Chocked full of "attitude"
>Grind rails is a gameplay mechanic in single player
>Hub world is just teenagers loitering around
>That clothing

If it isn't skater, then I don't know what it is
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>>387045098
Adventure is a separate universe
Fuck Sega
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>>387063070
He's right >>387064236
Hard Boiled Heavies are cool but they aren't better than Eggman. They are like Mega Man villains level.
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Just woke up at 3 pm. Were there any new unlocks from the medals?
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UNFINISHED BUILD I BELIEVE. THERE WILL BE MORE!
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>>387063257
>Mania 2
>includes Genesis-style remakes of Secret Base Zone, Chaos Angel Zone, Pirates Island Zone
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>>387064583
Just check his twitter, also yes
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>>387047252
Nobody hates Cybershell except newfags
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>>387064604
what's his endgoal?
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https://streamable.com/1fwzm
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>>387064063
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>>387051807
>Self awareness is le funny xD
Millennials should be hanged
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>>387064897
the destruction of all that is good
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>>387051954
>normal
you need to go back
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>go to best buy
>ask for Sonic Mania CE for Switch
>guy goes into the back and grabs it for me
>about to check out
>another employee says "you can't sell that it doesn't come out until Tuesday"
>cancel transaction
Tell me /v/, how is it that ultimate autismos from cripplechan can get the game no problem but I get cockblocked when I try?
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LADS im hype and as a fan who played the classics to completion almost every day (quick no emerald runs) and full runs on the weekends what is the best way to experience the classic games? I own a ps4,pc,WiiU. Why didn't they repack the classics? I would have bought mania and the classics for 30 easy.
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>>387065623

You got unlucky.
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>>387065634
Ironically, the best to play Sonic 1 and 2 is on Ouya
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Since when did Sonic games have a cohesive plot to follow? I played 1-3 as a kid and it was just run right and beat Robotnik.
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>>387065457
>I am the roughest of waves
>I am the toughest of terrors
>I am the darkest of days
>I am the last one that's standing, Don't try to stand in my way, Cause I've been up against better, Just take a look at my face
Is infinite izuka's OC?
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>>387044236
Cool. Cant wait to play.
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>>387065905
Or the Fire TV or any Android TV.
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>>387065984
True
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Do you think it's possible the Heavies will get any kind of figures or resin kits?
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whats with all the hate for izuka in these threads

ive never understood it
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>>387066116
DON'T
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>>387064604
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>>387066194
GOOO
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>>387065905
I heard the android ports were sick but sadly I don't have an android device and I would rather have all of the options in one area. It seems emulation is my best bet but I was hoping for a re-release on a console or something for that definitive experience. I seen sonic 3 complete though and that looks legit.
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>>387066314
TOOOOO
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I've gotten all the super emeralds, but never bothered with perfects. I want those extras. How fucked am I?
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>>387066290
>Sonic(blue) as the Switch(red)
>Tails(Red) as PS4(Blue)

The colors trigger my autism
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>>387066418
FAAAAAAAAAAAR
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>>387066418
FRAAAR MANIA TEAAM
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Just beat 3.

That was the second worst final boss of any game I have ever played.

I thought there would maybe be a 3rd final form or something. Fucking embarrassing. Holy shit.

>You've got your supply of rings AND an invincible attack

5/10 game.
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>Trophy list is up
>No platinum
I know I'm cancer for caring about this, but FUCK.
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>>387066562
||!!!
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>>387066609
The fuck are you on about? Invicible attack? What?
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>>387066647
Isn't one of the achievements getting a "perfect run"? Surely all of these are worth platinum
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>>387055065
That shit is good you're just a soft easy listening baby who still has mickey mouse ears
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Blue
Sphere
Till
Mania
(PC)
smashcast dot tv slash BlueSphereAnon
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>>387066461
play bluesphere until you get the game. Become the blue balls, understand the toroidal shape hidden underneath
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>>387066609
The music easily enhances the fight.
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>>387066779
The insta shield or W spin attack. It has a frame of invincibility and extends Sonic's offensive hitbox. It cheeses most bosses in 3.
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>sonic
>plot
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Fuck yeah. I figured out how to get level select to work in Sonic 2 on Fire TV which doesn't have touch support:
Just do the Knuckles in Sonic 2 level select code (UUUDDDLRLR) at the title screen and press A+Start.
Taxman really thought of everything.
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>>387066609
Are you talking about Launch Base or Doomsday? Because if you're talking about Launch Base, you've still got a lot of game left.
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>>387066534
>Tails
>Red
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>>387048389
Skater culture was completely dead by the time Riders was out
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>>387067123
The Tornado is red.
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>>387066949
Ok sure, but you have to time it perfectly. Not many people are going to on their first playthrough. Dunno how you could actually hate the boss fight that much, it was great. Though I do think the extension (Sonic3&Knuckles) has way better bosses.
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>>387063872
It's nothing like Jet Set Radio
Just because it's colorful doesn't make it like JSR you shallow fuck
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>Caring about plot in a Sonic game

Seriously? In the minimalistic 2D ones at that.
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>>387067230
You only have to time it for the invincibility. Which I am aware the other anon brought up. To use it offensively is far easier as it keeps you at a greater distance from the enemy by its nature and lasts much longer than the i-frame.
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>>387067280
I don't know about you, but in 1994 when I played Sonic 3, I was absolutely enamored by the storytelling, and S&K really drove it home for me. I'd love to be able to relive those experiences with Mania.
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>>387063872
haven't played the game, but it certainly doesn't look anything like jet set radio
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>>387067280
Damn right I care about 2D plot
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>Tails swimming animation

Omg so cute!

This little nigger Prower needs to be able to drop out of his flight
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>>387067107
The arms one. But the game ended.
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>>387066534
Here you feg
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>>387067250
The art direction, the music, and the characters are all distinctly reminiscent of Jet Set Radio.
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Honestly, the Forces tie in plot just made me more interested in what will happen later.
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Any of you guys know that Classic Sonic analysis series by some Scot(?)
Can't find it again for the life of me.
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>>387048085
>But then I saw all the stuff with Infinite and the cutscenes and how the game looks like the cheesiest anime weaboo shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq0QUCKrSDg
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>>387044236
why is the sonic fanbase so autistic?
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>>387066815
The fuck is a perfect run, don't fucking tell me you have to beat the entire game without getting hit like the megaman ones.
If it is it makes sense it has no platinum since nobody will get that shit.
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>>387045343
>with what might just be the worst Sonic game yet.
Yep you're just looking for reasons to bitch.
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>>387068310
>playing Sonic 3 standalone
You did this to yourself, the full game is Sonic 3 and Knuckles.
Do yourself a favor and download Sonic 3 Complete which is a romhack of Sonic 3 and Knuckles with all the bugs fixed and weird design decisions that don't make sense changed.
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>>387068528
Lol yeah I'd never play Sonic because everyone knows the Sonic fanbase is just so fucking autistic, I can't take the AUTISM. Lol deviantart and furries and OCs am I right keep getting excited for your romhack you hopeless Sonic autists praise Arin "Grump" Hanson for exposing this series like he does
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>>387068514
Never mind, found it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AK3n-srj5E
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>>387068540
Your guess is as good as mine, but yeah if that is the case that's mental.
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>>387045157
How is it guaranteed ass? Don't tell me, you've played the entire thing already?!? AMAZING! I had no idea that the full game was available already!
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>>387047591
>Psuedo-normalfag

Dear god.. I hate them
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WHERE IS THE FUCKING REST OF THEM GODDAMMIT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxZwCI9CuGU&t=38s
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>>387069262
>how can you tell it's shit it isn't out yet

It's written by the same guy who made Sonic 06. That's all I really need to know.

Oh, it's probably going to have good ideas put in it. All of the "bad" sonic games have at least one or two good changes that should be mentioned. Sonic 06 has at least one in that they put in a autosave feature. Sure, it doesn't kick in untill after Wave Ocean, it gets you stuck at Silver, and doesn't autosave town missions, but that autosave means you NEVER HAVE TO REPLAY THE FUCKING STAGES AGAIN after you beat them.
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>>387066609
Can someone ban this fucker?
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>>387056795
I'm telling you, ugly and unhygienic people are the worst people on earth. If they don't care about themselves they can't care about others
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>>387044236
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHl68YSVpxE
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has he unlocked sound test yet
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>>387068390
None of it is like JSR holy shit kill yourself
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>>387069734
It's written by the one guy who made Sonic 06?
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>Available: August 29
>This game will unlock in approximately 2 weeks
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Why don't Mario fans argue about 2d vs 3d games like this?
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>>387068371

Not that anon but das nice, man. Das nice.
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>>387069758
God Steven is such a faggot.
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>>387069906

>Spent $40 on Collector's Edition
>Won't be able to redeem it for two weeks after I get it
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>>387070028
Because both 2D and 3D mario are good
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>>387070028
Because everyone agrees that the 3D games better than the 2D ones.
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>>387070156
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>>387069734
So the writing guarantees that the gameplay will be bad?
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I like the edginess of Sonic forces. It feels super damn Cathartic.
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>Caring about the plot in a sonic game
>Complaining that the cut scenes are cheesy anime weaboo shit with furry characters

It has been like this for 20 years now, it doesn't matter

All that matters is:
Is it fun to run around and go fast and jump on shit?
And is the music good?

If the former answer is yes: Its good
If the latter answer is yes: Its always yes
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>>387069893
What, Infinite didn't immedeatly give it away?

Despite all the memes, it's entirly likely Infinite won't be self-aware and will be played "seriously". Which is sort of sad, some guys on /co/ had a nice idea that Infinite was the oc eggman created with the game's oc maker, and I honestly would prefer that to be the plot than a SERIOUS STORY(tm). It'd at least give us a suprise about who the final boss is going to be
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>>387069689
No one outside of you and that tripfag believes in or cares about your autistic and fanfic-tier "pint-sized Sonic" theory.
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>>387070361
The writing will have an effect on gameplay, yes. Do you remember all the times you got an annoying ass hint you never asked for in Sonic 06?

And let's not talk about the "romance" that got shoved into Sonic's story and how SONIC FUCKING DIED and you had to play the most bullshit final level ever because of it
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>>387070028
Because 3D Mario already has factions that argue.
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>>387070769
So Hints automatically change the core gameplay?
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>>387069689
This was so mindbogglingly retarded and autistic it makes me wanna find the person who made this and keep brutally punching his face till there's nothing but gore and blood.
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>>387069858
Yes it is, kill yourself hypocrite fanboy
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I honestly have no idea why /v/ is so monumentally butthurt about Forces. It looks fine.
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>>387070769

Most of the time games with multiple playable characters tend to have you play as all of them during the final act. SA2 and Heroes did this too.
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>>387069689
sonic the portable isn't canon and mania takes place after 3&K
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>>387069734
>It's written by the same guy who made Sonic 06.
I thought it was written by one of the guys who wrote Colors-Lost World?
Not that that makes it better, mind you.
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>>387044236
weren't the classic sonic games supposed to be independent adventures that happened one after the other?
why did they tied it to forces? FUCKING WHY?
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>>387071383
Colors was written well
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>>387071383
He's just doing the English script, the story itself was written by someone on the Japanese side of things.
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>>387071463
Most people complained about the Saturday Morning Cartoon feel, but I didn't mind it.
The Eggman PAs were the best though.
https://youtu.be/VvS7ewAkwEA

>>387071524
Okay then.
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>>387071463
Colors is fucking shit. You're a idiot, fucking kys
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>>387071463
BALDY MCFUCKHAIR
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>>387070890
Hints can contribute to the core gameplay being a terrible experience.

Dying to a particularly bullshit part, such as the end level of Sonic 06, and having to hear that "hint" OVER AND OVER, even though it doesn't really help you because the time portals fucking snipe your ass and are out to murder you, is the sort of game design I'd love Sonic Forces to avoid.
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>>387071606
Why do you retards think this constitutes an argument? Watch me do it: Colors wasn't shit, fucking kys.

Next you'll post that regurgitated "Sonic Colors saved the series" screenshot.
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Where can I find those Sonic models that people use for SFM?
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>>387070890
>>387071708
>THAT LOOKS LIKE A HOMING SHOT
>BE CAREFUL SONIC
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>>387058996
>Verlisfy
Who?
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>>387071603
I've seen many Saturday Morning cartoons with better writing though. Those PAs probably are the best parts, shame you'll have next to no chance of hearing more than brief snippets of them as you play through the game.
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www dot smashcast dot tv/urlogic

streaming sonic 3d blast pc to make wait till mania less painful
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>>387063075
It's been years since I played them, but I remember liking Rush Adventure more. I played them back to back and while Adventure added gimmicks I remember feeling it had better levels overall.
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>>387071732
Colors was so fucking bad. The fact that people think it "saved" the series shows how mindbogglingly retarded the fanbase is. The series really went to utter shit starting 2010. The games from then on are shallow, boring, uninspired pieces of shits.
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>>387068839
3&K replaces some of 3's music with inferior pieces, though. Also no Big Arms for Sonic.
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>>387046817
I liked Shadow too, but only because it's the only game starring Shadow.
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>>387072147
>The series really went to utter shit starting 2010
The fact you think this shows you're retarded. The only thing post-3D worth mentioning is Colors and Generations (wholly average games with high points) and maybe tidbits of Unleashed, maybe. Fuck me you probably think the Adventure games are good.
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>>387069906

>Asks Steam for a refund because I can just watch a longplay
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>>387072147
>2010
>2005
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>>387072238
3&K Complete can change that.
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>>387072147
People liked Colors because it was the Unleashed gameplay without the werehog shit.
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>>387072147
I feel it was due to the timing. Unleashed had almost got it down, but was held back by the werehog. The fact that Sonic 4 episode 1 (supposedly for the classic fans) came out around that time didn't help. Colors taking after Unleashed's daytime stages (even if mostly in 2D) was a sign that, hopefully, Sonic Team finally knew what they were doing.
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>>387072238
Did you read the second half of his post? It's kind of important.
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>>387072285
Adventure games are very flawed but still better than Unleashed and Colors.
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>>387045292
>Playing the competitive in Sonic
Fuck off casual
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>>387072407
Complete puts Big Arms back in?
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>>387072514
According to Sonic Retro, yes.
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>>387072514
Yes
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>>387072447
Hardly. At least the latter two are functional fucking games, SA1 is a buggy unfinished mess where you're liable to have your momentum completely killed by invisible obstacles in the terrain or fall through the floor. SA2 is much better and more acceptable but it's still only 33% of a good game because the rest of it consists of the mech and treasure missions. They're shit games with value in nostalgia and nothing else.
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>playing sonic games for the story
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>>387072285
The Adventure games aren't good, they're fucking great.
>>387072367
Except you can't even say that because Colors is a insanely watered down piece of shit that's like 80% 2D. Not even exaggerating, that's literally the game right there. Also wisps, an uninteresting, shitty gimmick.
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How about no more video games ever get made at all since you people represent the most fundamental problem the entire industry faces.
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>>387071045
My beef isn't with different characters being playable in the final, but simply the final of Sonic 06 not being fun at all and hoping Sonic Forces DOESN'T follow in it's footsteps (it probably will)

SA2's finale was pretty good, the only bullshit part MIGHT be if you didn't find the water breathing upgrade for Knuckles... but you could always just go to stage select and find it. They flow from one to another without too much bullshit.

Heroes was bullshit getting all four teams to that end level, but the end level itself was okay. Fucking Chaotix levels always left me going in circles.

Sonic 06's end level was not fun. All the characters go slow, and the levels involve Time portals designed to fuck over anyone NOT fast enough to get away, like Amy and Silver. Also projectiles are thrown at you from places you can't see. And the instant death portals can spawn RIGHT ON TOP OF YOU. And you can't bring in YOUR FUCKING LIVES so if you die in a section that has a character you don't really play well with, you have to go through ALL OF THAT SHIT ALL OVER AGAIN, so Trial and error isn't fun and Just because I can S rank that shit now, doesn't make it any less bullshit
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>>387070981
Fuck off nint0ddler
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>>387072049
i fixed it
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Anyone else cancel their preorder after finding out about this? I'm honestly disgusted.
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>>387070178
LOL
Mario World >>>>>>>>>>>> any 3D Mario game
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>>387072712

The instant death portals were a gameplay decision though. They have nothing to do with the writing.
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>>387072654
You're a fucking retarded meme-spouting idiot. A literal sheep that has NO opinions of his own. The dreamcast version of SA1 isn't buggy nor is it unfinished, idiot. And the "le 1/3 of advanshur 2 is gewd!" meme. You're a mouth-breathing, braindead faggot. I think for the betterment of mankind, you should kindly off yourself.
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>>387072692
>The Adventure games aren't good, they're fucking great.
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>>387072147
>The series really went to utter shit starting 1998.
Fixed that for you
Go fuck yourself Adventure/Unleashed cuck
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>>387044236
>caring about plot in a classic sonic game

I have no idea what Sonic 1, 2 and 3 are about and I think theyre fucking great just like this game is gonna be.
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>>387072238
Just play Sonic 3 complete and select "Pick by Zone" in the menu. That way you get all of the music.
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>>387072946
>He just said things I don't like! I'm gonna call him a bunch of names now!
I formed these opinions on my own and I owned the Dreamcast version of SA1 when I was younger. It was less glitchy than DX but still fucking broken with invisible shit all over the place. Eat shit.
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>>387072692
>The Adventure games aren't good, they're fucking great.
>Adventurecucks believe this
Hahahahahahahhaha fucking gamecube kiddies I swear to god
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>>387069689
Why does this actually make sense?
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>>387044236
>caring about plot on a Sonic game
I bet you're one of those fags who think the Adventure games were good.
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>>387072514
Complete puts back Big Arms, lets you choose between sonic 3 and the & knuckles versions of songs and level layouts and anything else that can be different between the two games.
It also let you do other things like set Flying Battery Zone to be after Carnival Night as was originally intended to be the case (complete with proper level transition and night background, and changing the snowboard in icecap to be the door you blast off in the level transition) before it got moved to sonic & knuckles so that game solo wouldn't be too short. You also get the option to use a different button to transform into super sonic so you can still use the insta shield without transforming and transform with a shield powerup and a whole bunch of other shit, it's the best way to play Sonic 3 at this point until Sega lets taxman make a widescreen port.
http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_3_Complete
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>>387072654
Spotted the Gamecube owner. Should have played the Dreamcast versions and not the broken ports. Adventure Sonic stages are great, and everything else that wasn't fishing was solid. Adventure 2 Sonic/Shadow stages were also great, and the mech stuff was mediocre but beat the hell out of the majority of Colors and Unleashed. Treasure hunting was terrible though.
Unleashed werehog shit is awful, of course, but the daytime sidescrolling portions are even worse. They legit play worse than even Sonic 4. Maybe 1/3 of that game is worthwhile, which is far less than either Adventure. Colors has it just as bad. There's no werehog, but there's a bigger emphasis on the atrocious sidescrolling shit and the first acts of each level are the only ones even remotely enjoyable. Generations is the only 3D boost game to get it mostly right.
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>the release gap won't mean shit in a few months
>consolebros won't be able to play with a Mega Drive controller
>consolebros won't be able to enjoy mods and hacks
I'm sorry bros
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>>387073205
It doesn't, it placed CD in the wrong place in the timeline and it regards Generations as canon, which it isn't. The Classic continuity never happens in Modern Sonic's past, 1,2,CD,3K, and Mania all exist in a separate dimension where the 3D games never happened.
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>>387072654
>I don't like these stages so the game is bad
How arrogant can you be?
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>>387073247
>mods and hacks
>With Denuvo

I'll give you the Mega Drive/Saturn controller, though. Those things are top tier for retro gaming.
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>>387073239
>Spotted the Gamecube owner
Like I told the other guy, I played SA on Dreamcast originally. And fuck no dude, the mech missions of SA2 where even worse than the treasure hunt missions but both were bad. Anything that's not a Sonic/Shadow level in SA2 is just a slog imo. Meanwhile I think you're underselling the things that Unleashed and Colors did right, "worse than Sonic 4" is severely dishonest.
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>>387073174
Mega Drive owner here. The Adventure games are better than anything released after them except maybe Generations.
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>>387072654
>They're shit games with nostalgia value and nothing else
Did you mean the Mario series?
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>>387073174
I wonder how it'd be like to be this detached from reality and be this much of a braindead, deluded, piece of shit mindless drone. Your stupidity just has no fucking bounds. You NEED to kill yourselves for the betterment of humanity.
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>>387072884
The instant death portals beign Gameplay related is true enough. However, the writing allowed Instant-Death portals to be possible, and also took out the only two FUN (read: broken and go fast) characters to play - Blaze and Sonic - out of the story, so I HAVE to play as the shitty slow characters who will die to time portals and I HAVE to listen to everybody say SONIC I'M CUMMING every fucking time I lose all my lives. I also have to deal with SEVEN FUCKING LOAD TIMES
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>>387073362
>it regards Generations as canon, which it isn't
And how do you know this?
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>>387073375
Do you think this same logic can't be applied to you, retard?
>I like these stages so they're good!
>But I don't like Colors, it must be dogshit
What an egocentric point of view.
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I don't get it.

How old do you have to be to only have nostalgia for the classic titles? Both the classic series and Adventure series were still in my childhood and I have nostalgia for both.
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>>387073447
Mega Drive owner here, I disagree.
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>>387067221
The tornado belongs to Sonic
checkmate
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>>387073637
I have tons of nostalgia for Adventure but I acknowledge they're objectively horrible fucking games.
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>>387073362
Autismobros timeline trades games as canon, your argument reeks of “it’s not cannon because it was bad”
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>>387073752
I had a lot of fun with them though.
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It is painfully obvious that CD happens before Sonic 4, almost right before.

So yeah, after 3
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>>387073843
>Sonic 4
>Happens
?
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>>387073591
It's been made clear by SEGA and Sonic Team that Generations isn't canon, Forces clearly retconned Generations by clarifying that Classic Sonic is from a different dimension, not Sonic's "past" like Generations asserted.
Adventure 1 showed a clip of Amy being kidnapped by Metal Sonic, but they're in their Modern incarnations and in Green Hill Zone, a cutscene that never happens in CD at all.
Mania also includes characters from Sonic the Fighters that don't exist at all in the Modern dimension which confirms anything Pre-SA1 occurs in the Mania dimension.
>>387073843
4 is also not canon as indicated by Mania.
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>>387073752
You're objectively a deluded idiot. Kill yourself you fucking nigger, go to KFC and watch NBA you nigger
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Oh no, someone reposted it... welp.

I stand by it though, I know I’m not alone. I just wish they published an official timeline.
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>>387073247
I'm going to be using an SNES controller I recently got which works with the Switch I am going to be playing Mania on, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
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>>387073759
Generaitions isn't at all a bad game, I quite enjoyed it. But Forces clearly retconned it as I explained here >>387073912
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>>387073843
sonic the portable is not canon
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>>387073447
They're not better than Advance 1
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>>387073836
These days I remember the Adventure games more fondly for their enjoyably retarded story, the cheesy but fun soundtracks, some of the timeless moments like FAKER, and so on. The gameplay is just sort of a mess and it's all over the place in retrospect, save for a few places. Also Metal Harbor is unironically one of the best tracks in any Sonic game and I'll stick by that.
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>>387074060
Sonic 4 is too Canon. What makes it not canon?

If you say Sonic 4 isn’t canon, you are saying CD and Generations aren’t canon.
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>>387069689
I feel really autistic knowing this but why the fuck does this guy think CD takes place after 3&K when it isn't even likely to have happened after 2? We know for a fact that little planet only appears one month a year and it disappears at the end of CD so it would take at least a year after angel island for Metal Sonic to get revived for 4 when 2>3>4 happen in a short amount of time from each other. Or 2>3>M since I guess Metal is in that so it kind of contradicts things. "Some time after Angel Island" could mean anything though.

I feel sick.
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>>387073229
>lets you choose between sonic 3 and the & knuckles versions of songs
Also lets you choose to play the Sonic 3 songs in the Sonic 3 zones and the S&K ones in the S&K zones via the option "Pick by Zone"

If you don't choose this option you're a complete faggot.
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>>387074146
I love playing Adventure 1 Sonic and feel he plays as well as Crash or Spyro.
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>>387072865

Not SMB3
LOL
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>>387073239
Majority of Adventurefags are gamecube kiddies
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>>387073965
Cuck.
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>>387074185
Sonic 4 is never acknowledged in any other game in any capacity. On top of that it adds nothing to the overall story at all and SEGA have actively denied it ever happened or that Sonic 4 is included in any canon.
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>arguing about canon in Sonic, a series that makes shit up as it goes along
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>>387073965
>using a SNES controller to play Sonic
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>>387074374
It is in Generations.
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>>387073437
>the mech missions of SA2 where even worse than the treasure hunt missions
No they weren't. The mech levels were boring and easy but they were far less of a pain than the treasure hunting.
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>>387074206
Think about how Sonic Changes from CD to 4. Sonic grew up, the little planet re-appeared by then. CD is the main game that happens right before 4.
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>>387074206
We're talking about a robot created by a mad scientist who built a second Egg Carrier "just in case". It's not infeasible that he's built multiple Metal Sonics
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>>387074374
>literally shows how Metal came back
>adds nothing to the story
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>>387074374
When has Sega denied 4?

It’s still for sale unlike digital Sonic 06, and the entire 4 saga is BC on Xbox One.
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>>387073247
I'm playing on PS4 with this, which is a fuckin' fantastic pad. The dpad is amazing.
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>>387073931
Most niggers prefer the Adventure games though.
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>>387074261
What's the difference between Pick By Zone and the default Always Menu Choices?
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>>387074581
Same here, but Xbox.
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>>387074472
The way the mechs control just irritates me. I'd rather play the clusterfuck treasure missions with a fluid character than the linear and boring missions with one that feels like a lead weight. Besides, at least the treasure missions have some nice tunes to make up for it.
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>>387073843
>Spindash is still incomplete
>Tails and Knuckles aren't there
>No Super/Hyper form
>Bonus image with Tails saying "See you next game" referencing Sonic 2
Yeah sure thing faggot.
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>>387074571
It was entirely unnecessary.
>>387074442
Where?
>>387074573
Mania proves that 4 does not exist in canon.
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>>387044236
Anyone going to explain what the tie-in is?
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>>387074581
It still pales in comparison to the OG Saturn D-Pad.
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>>387074731
See you next game can easily be referring to Sonic 4. Tails is in that.
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>>387074475
Wouldn't it make a hell of lot more sense for other games to happen in that span of time. Also sonic wouldn't not bring Tails along just because, Tails isn't there because it happens before 2, 2 just happened to release before CD.
>>387074541
Now THAT is autistic.
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>>387073843
>4cucks
I never thought Adventurecucks would be surpassed but there we have it.
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>>387074758
It uses the Sonic 4 Super Sonic theme the first time Sonic goes super.
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>>387074758
How does Mania prove Sonic 4 isn’t canon?
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>>387074758
>It was entirely unnecessary.
I-I don't like the game so it doesn't counts!
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>>387046817

Congrats.
Now everyone knows to disregard you're OBVIOUSLY shitty and garbage opinions.

Thanks.
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>this amount of damage control
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>>387074892
The opening has the elevator go from 1 > 2 > 3 > K(nuckles) > M(ania)
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>>387074779
At the end, Infinite manifests out of the big purple gem and blocks Sonic's friends off when they try to attack, then he opens a portal, flings Sonic through and disappears himself before the credits roll.
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>>387074814
>It uses a music clip
That doesn't make that game canon.
>>387074892
Mania's opening animation disregards that 4 ever happened.
>>387074919
It adds nothing to the canon of either dimension and doesn't adequately fit in either.
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>>387074581
Fuck I play stick with 2D fighters but tekken just feels so right with a dpad with my pointer and middle finger on the face buttons.

Might check this shit out.
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>>387074806
Sonic has had solo adventures for time to time, CD as a Solo one after 3K isn’t out there in the grand line of Sonic games.
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>>387069689

This is the reason I hate Sonic fans.
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>>387075007

>CD
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>>387073958
>I just wish they published an official timeline.
There's no such thing. The official timeline makes no sense.

It's best to go with
Classic era canon Sonic 1-3K/Chaotix/3D Blast/R(possibly)
Modern era canon alternative universe to the classic one Adventure-onwards games with the modern designs
Crossover non-canon shit Generations, Mania/Forces
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>>387047960

I SECOND THIS
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>>387045098
Tie-in is what happens mutually and concurrently, retard.
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>>387074798
I'm actually considering getting a PS3 to PS4 controller adapter so I can use pic related with the PS4 to play Mania. It supposedly works on the PS3 so I'm hopeful that an adapter will allow it to work on the PS4 with little to no additional lag.
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>>387075007
Because Mania takes placeEXACTLY when CD is taking place in pint sized Sonics timeline!

That is why there is no CD button on the elevator.

Good job, you just proved that pint sized Sonic is the 3rd Sonic and 4 is canon.

Next time, don’t be this guy.
>>387074919
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>>387074206
>why the fuck does this guy think CD takes place after 3&K
Ignore the 4cuck ebin meme falseflagger
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>The raging Adventurecuck ITT
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>>387069689
I want a new Sonic Boom game.
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>>387075089
But the Adventure era games do seem to make some nods to classic canon that you could make a reasonable argument that they are as canon as Classic Doctor Who is to Modern Doctor Who.
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>>387075063
CD is a spinoff game.
Also, plenty of elements from CD are incorporated into the game itself.
>>387075089
Classic also includes Sonic the Fighters and Mania, Mania just happens to lead into a shitty crossover.
>>387075218
CD is a spinoff. The elevator only lists mainline titles.
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>>387074345
World > 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3
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I'll just leave this here
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>>387075218
I don't know if this is a parody of the fanbase but damn dude you're taking it too far
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>>387074806
fuck you, looking at that really makes me wish that was a thing
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>>387074596
Pretty sure the latter just plays the sonic 3 music for all the zones
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So... Everything is already unlocked?

Same boss for both sonic, tails and knuckles ?
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>>387067142
The original Riders is still one of the best skateboard games I've ever played. I also really liked how it handled the modern Sonic world as some sort of cyberpunk world owned by Eggman
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>>387075340
>Braindead World better than anything
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>>387075356
But why
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>>387075356
This is basically how all of Taxman's Sonic games work. The core game has the intended mechanics, but if you use level select (which is only available in no save mode), you can unlock different play styles.
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>>387075340
>contrarian and pleb at the same time
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>>387075340
>3 worse than 1
i'm a worldfag but no
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>>387052584
Hyrdocity
Green Hill
Stardust Speedway
Flying Battery
Marble
Starlight
Angel Island
Carnival Night
Pretty much any song from Adventure or Adventure 2
Pretty much any song from the entire series.
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>>387075332
CD IS NOT A SPIN-OFF

ACALLING IT A SPIN-OFF IS LIKE CALLING SONIC AND KNUCKLES A SPIN-OFF

Mania obviously takes place after the 3K of a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT QUANTUM TIMELINE
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>>387075251
>Adventure patrician
In reality you're all the true cucks, with no actual opinions of your own and all you can is spout tired memes. Whatever floats your boat though, faggot.
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>>387074684
>Besides, at least the treasure missions have some nice tunes to make up for it.
What the shit?
So do the mech levels. Mission Street is my fucking jam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzXgFSsq_zM
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>>387075356
but on the brightside, you can have knuckles follow sonic around
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>>387075356
well fuck. I can understand for older games, but here? I blame a not too far
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I think mania is cool and all but I still don't get why we need more than one Sonic when in the Adventure era we got 3D and 2D games with Modern Sonic.
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>>387075356
S3 Complete does this though. Why the restriction?
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>>387074801
Seriously kill yourself the game came out in fucking 1993 when Sonic 4 was not a thing.
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>>387075615
CD is a spinoff that has its elements already incorporated into Mania, also Mania takes place after CD because of the Metal Sonic fight and the fact that it explicitly states Sonic and co. are /returning/ to Stardust Speedway
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>>387075658
Why don't you compose arguments yourself then, redditor-kun? When someone says why they don't like Adventure you just claim it's an adopted opinion and you offer nothing else except to say "I LIKE IT SO IT'S NOT FUCKING BAD THE THINGS YOU ENJOY ARE BAD BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THEM MY WORD IS LAW YOU NIGGER SHEEP"
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>>387075007
That just proves my point. It doesn’t disprove Sonic 4 at all. Like I was saying, Mania takes place after the events of the Angel Island Saga in a different timeline. It happens after that timeline's 3&K events, probably during Sonic CD in the prime timeline.
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Adventure fags with retarded opinions still raging
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>>387074806
>That super-peel out in the package
Ruined
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>you will have to perfect even more difficult blue sphere levels
kill me
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>>387075035
>CD as a Solo one after 3K
Seriously SHUT THE FUCK UP
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>>387075849
What is the ideal opinion? That Sonic has not been good in nearly 25 years?
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>Blue Sphere DX, on mobile
>Free to play
>Gameplay is just like Blue Sphere but with some new additions: green spheres that take two hits to turn into red spheres, pink spheres that teleport you to another, purple spheres that flip your character around, etc.
>Millions upon millions of randomly generated levels, formulate is fine tuned so levels are way more unique than they are in Blue Sphere
>Graphics are beautifully done 3D models, but a special mode for 2D sprites can be earned
>You earn in game currency (emerald shards, maybe) by beating levels
>Currency can be spent on new characters, sphere patterns, songs, and other special bonuses
>Of course Sega needs money so this currency would be purchasable with real money
>Starting characters would be Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles, but there are way more from all across Sonic's games, such as Adventure characters, the Chaotix, etc.
>You select characters by scrolling to them on the "NO WAY!" screen
>Music is all done by Tee Lopes, who does remixes of all the Special Stage songs throughout the series
>Bonus original songs can also be purchased with the currency
>Time attack modes- speedrun through original S3&K stages, get a set time and see how many levels you can beat for a reward
>Purchasable costumes for characters: Knuckles with the hat from the OVA, Tails with pilot goggles on
>Seasonal events with special characters to purchase: Sonic in a Christmas sweater, obligatory Rouge in a bikini

Would you play this, /v/?
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>>387075779
It’s not uncommon for series canon to respect and answer questions from prior installments that had never been answered prior, see why Klingons didn’t have ridges in TOS.
>>387075791
Where does it explicitly state in game that hey are returning? Explain the no CD button.
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>>387075836
My word IS law. Learn to accept it. Don't defy my reign, because there's nothing that awaits you if you do.
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So

I just noticed something after watching the opening animation for the millionth time.

King Heavy and Infinite both have yellow eyes. It becomes so obvious once you look at the last few seconds of the opening.when their eyes glow in the darkness. And the rest of the heavies glow red. I dunno if there's a connection but Infinite has four allies too right?

Just something I noticed.

I could just be coincidence but doesn't it mirror Forces alot? I mean not only does Sonic fight Eggman with a "final boss" mech at the beginning of both games but he also has 5 lackeys working for him, with one being the "leader" of the 5.

I know it's pretty much confirmed that the two games are connected but maybe there's more gong on here.
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>>387075332
>Mania just happens to lead into a shitty crossover.
And that's why I disregard it as non-canon

I don't know about Sonic the Fighters...I think it's at the same status as R...maybe it is canon but probably it's a spinoff like the game gear games

CD is a main title it comes after Sonic 1/before Sonic 2
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>>387076032
I don't think I'd play blue sphere for fun.
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>>387075615
>QUANTUM TIMELINE
LOL
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>>387076165
There is no “pretty much” about it, the 2 games are directly connected. Why do you think some of us want lock-on so badly?
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>>387075598
Yes it is. I can't stand 3's art style.
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>>387076032
I would prefer the new special stages. They are fresh, and also look already more fun
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>>387076247
Outside of Sonic 2 and 3K the series left a lot to be desired.

The series has never been as great as those titles but the series has maintained the quality as a whole.
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>>387076307
It’s a valid term, see Star Trek.
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>mfw going to play mania with a fightstick
It feels so right dammit
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>>387075035
>>387075976
CD is a solo spinoff game that takes place some time after 2 but is not explicitly stated to take place after 3.
>>387076051
It says that Sonic is returning to the stage in a lot of promotional descriptions of the Act 1 of Stardust Speedway because it is now overgrown, and the returning CD levels have the Past and Future signposts and functionality intact.
CD was also never stated to be a mainline game, because it's a spinoff, which is why it wasn't numbered.
>>387076242
It isn't non-canon, it's a clear continuation of the Classic series and manuals and materials on the game plot clearly state it directly takes place after 3&K.
Mania clearly shows that Sonic the Fighters is canon because it includes characters from that game.
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>>387076032
I'd much rather see a mobile Chao garden. It'd be a virtual goldmine for Sega
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>>387076247
classic cuck continues to put the classic games on a obnoxiously high pedestal and spouts the same tired meme opinion by fat fucking faggot niggers. but do you senpai.
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>>387076340
3 has the best art style pleb.
World doesn't even have one, is basically NSMB tier. world2 on the other hand is gorgeous
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>>387075310
I suppose that Spinball and Mean Bean Machine are canon now too since Mania references it

Nah, Sonic Adventure is a soft-reboot. As evidence by how much the characters personalities change, Amy aging to 12 all of a sudden, Tails' personality being reset to be similar to back how he was before Sonic 2, Knuckles' personality is again reset to be naive when if this was a continuation he should have learned from his mistakes by now but in the modern era he's just dumb while the Sonic 3 manual says that he's naive because he's lived in Floating Island all his life by himself guarding the Master Emerald.
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>>387049683
If something like that released in 2017 instead of 2005, it might be.
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underage gamegube newfags think their garbage games are good if they spout insults like twelve years old
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>>387076165

Maybe. Earlier in the intro Emperor Hevay has yellow-on red eyes, which is what Infinite has. Could also be nothing though, because Eggman is the last one to hold the gem in Mania.
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>>387076439
The only “returning” mentions are social media and promo material by Sega, not in game, not in manual. Sega has been proven to have been lying by saying it is Classic Sonic playable in Forces when the reality is not the case. If Classic Sonic is not in Forces, then he cannot be in Mania, which proves without doubt that there are 3 Sonics.
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>>387076661
>Tails' personality being reset to be similar to back how he was before Sonic 2
tails before sonic 2? wtf
tails WAS introduced in sonic 2
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>>387076439
>CD is a solo spinoff game that takes place some time after 2
No that doesn't make fucking sense. If that were the case his spindash wouldn't be semi-functional

CD isn't a spin-off game and it never was.
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I fucking hate all of you so fucking much. You're all hiveminded, braindead, deluded sheep that spout the same tired opinions over and over. It pains me to see it because I know that you're objectively all wrong. At this point words can't get to you now, you simply have to be beaten until you finally fucking get it.
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>>387075356
Well that sucks
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>>387076490
world2 is also a better game than the others, but it's not really a mario game
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>>387076706
KILL URSELF N I G G E R, THE ADVENTURE GAMES ARE MADE WITH LOVE AND CARE UNLIKE THE SHITTY GENESIS GAMES YUCK
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>>387075392
You can order a cartridge of it.
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itt autists trying to track the plot of a franchise that is plotless since 1998
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>>387075839
The fact that Sonic 4 has the butt-ugly Modern Design completely disproves it.
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>out-of-touch old fat farts think they have the right to call anything garbage
Fuck off of /v/ and go play some bingo in that elderly home gramps. Video games aren't for you anymore
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>>387077098
>modern "cinematic experiences"
>games
pick one, underage faggot
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>>387076051
You're an idiot. Tails was in the photo for a reason. It was because CD and 2 were being developed at the same time and it was expected that CD was gonna come out before 2. Hence the reference to Sonic 2.

Kill yourself you fucking idiot.
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>>387077194
The Adventure era games were great.
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>>387073428
Does anyone know where to buy one of these?
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>>387076247
I'll give Advance 1 a pass and Pocket Adventure is ok but that's it.
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>>387076739
Except they are mentioned in the manual, look up the leaked scans, it clearly states that Mania takes place directly after 3&K. Sega would not lie about their own game, Forces retcons Generations by proving Classic Sonic is from his own dimension where all the classic games exist besides 4 which is disproven to be canon due to it not fitting in either dimension and its only "canon" mention is in a non-canon game.
The only three Sonics are Classic, Modern, and Boom.
>>387076815
CD is a spinoff, it is not labeled as a mainline classic entry and its story has minimal impact on any part of the canon aside from introducing Metal Sonic.
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>>387077062
>I don’t like the art style so it’s not canon

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Hey, I hate the way Sonic looks in Heroes. Just because I find it ugly, doesn’t mean it ain’t canon.
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Honestly, I think the better proof of Sonic 4 not being canon is the fact that they left Little Planet trapped in the Death Egg MK II at the end of the second episode and never really resolved it.
Some ask Iizuka about it ASAP.
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>>387077250
HAHAHAHAHA
by autismo standards, yeah
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>>387074806
>no inspirational quotes
fucking dropped
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>>387076334
Only cancerous tripfags like you want lock-on
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literally, there is any way to salvage those furry autistic cuckold, scat fetishist adventurefags? The last good thing they could do for society is drink bleach, so their shit tier opinions will never taint mankind anymore
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>>387077359
By normies standards too, the game sold well.
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>>387077369
shit, didn't mean to namefag
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>>387077359
>HAHAHA watch me be a contrarian XDDD
(You)
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>>387077329
CD is not a spin-off and is the first entry in the Sonic 4 saga. It is canon.
>>387077350
Still waiting for episode 3.
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>>387076490
>World2
It's Yoshi's Island and it looks like ugly crayon scribbles

Anyways I hate Mario 3's moon physics too
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>>387077462
Dad come home
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>>387077445
normies would buy shit in a can if marketed well enough
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>>387077445
Thiiiis the Adventure games are very underrated gems, more so than the mega drive games I'd say!
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>>387076247
the advance games are better than sonic 2
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>>387075089
> All of the recent games SEGA is spending their money on are "non-canon".

What a fucking idiot.
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>>387077531
So doesn't that mean that you are in the minority for thinking it is terrible?
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>>387077410
A lot of us want lock-on.
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>>387076782
I meant before the events of Sonic 2
In the Japanese manual for Sonic 2 it explains some prior events that happened like how Tails found Sonic's Tornado glistening in the sun.
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>>387077492
>is not autismo oc modern "sonic" edgelord
>contrarian
well, i'm glad
go fap to furries, nigger
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>>387077539
Only Advance 1 I'd be willing to accept was better.
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Classic cucks should be rounded up and fucking exterminated. Their shit-tier opinions taint mankind and are a fucking cancer that needs to be eradicated.
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>>387077329
It's not a spinoff no matter how many times you say it is.
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>>387077673
Well Advance 2 happens right before Sonic adventure, so does that mark the series decline?
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>>387077595
>you are in the minority
am i supposed to buy others's opinions just to fit in?
no, thanks
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>>387044236
Was that confirmed? Did the fat fuck get the true ending or something?
Because a single sound effect doesn't mean shit.
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>>387077647
oh
sorry then
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>>387077503
>CD is the first entry in the Sonic 4 saga.
Kill yourself

>>387077339
Modern Sonic and Classic OG Sonic are 2 completely different characters therefore Sonic 4 is a parody game at best.
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>>387077503
Sonic 4 isn't canon, CD is clearly a spinoff, stop living in denial and face the facts. Just because CD is a spinoff doesn't mean it isn't canon, it's included in Sonic Mania despite not having an elevator button because it's a spinoff and not a main-series game.
>>387077746
But Mania proves that it's a spinoff.
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>>387077823
See the timeline. Mania is but art one to a greater story...
>>387069689
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>still trying to hate on the Adventure games
those games are god tier you classic autists
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>>387077770
Oh no, Advance 2 is still a great game.
I prefer Advance 3 though.

Sonic2 is just really good, but I would play Advance 2 over Sonic CD especially 3.

>>387077805
If you went and said Mario is shit and mocked everyone who liked it, then do you expect people to just drop their established opinions and listen to you.
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>>387077823
>Was that confirmed?
Yes.

>Did the fat fuck get the true ending or something?
Yes.

>Because a single sound effect doesn't mean shit.
The sound effect coupled with sonic literally teleporting into Forces does.
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>>387077919
Mania proves it is taking place the same time as CD in another timeline.
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>>387076032
I don't want to see any blue spheres after Mania ever again.
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>>387077581
Sega spent their money on Sega and Sonic All Star Racing and Sonic Boom Franchise too.
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>>387077770
what the actual hell are you smoking? the adventure games all happen BEFORE the advance series. why do you think the movesets are influenced by adventure style gameplay. i mean shit had you of said heros id have believed you but come on son
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>>387077890
I can't be the only one that thinks the sonic x theme is good
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The only people who don't like the Adventure games are queers who are shit at playing them. It's not Adventure, it's you. Get good.
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>>387077673
3's gimmick makes it a lot more replayable
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>>387076661
>Sonic 3 manual says that he's naive because he's lived in Floating Island all his life by himself guarding the Master Emerald.
Sonic 3 manual doesn't say that. I think you have mixed memory.
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>>387077924
That's not an official timeline and clearly mishandles the placement of canon entries and spinoffs (i.e. CD).
>>387078018
If this is the case then CD takes place in the Modern timeline and is the beginning since muddled events from CD are vaguely shown in SA1, but seeing as it's a classic game I doubt this.
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Classic cucks are fucking morons that should have fucked off a long, long time ago. They're like those fucking fat fedora-wearing losers in the back of the class muttering stupid shit to themselves while everyone else in the classroom, i.e, Adventure patricians, are having fun and living life to the fullest.
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>>387077770
Advance 2 is non-canon
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>>387078064
This, glad to see another Adventure bro those games were my goddamned CHILDHOOD and I'll never let anyone talk shit about them
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>>387078002
link to the video, I wanna see the true ending
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>>387064063
So no Super Knuckles/Tails then?
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>>387077919
Mania is a non-canon game(ala Super Mario 2 USA style) that links to a non-canon crossover game(Forces)
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>>387077897
Saying modern and Classic Sonic aren’t the same and are 2 completely different characters is ridiculous. By saying that, you are purposely ignoring Generations.
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>>387078069
Sonic Advance 3 I do not think is better than 2 by a long shot, and I will say I adore Sonic Advance 3 more than most because the partner system is just that good.

I would be willing to say it is better than Sonic CD.
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>>387077981
>If you went and said Mario is shit and mocked everyone who liked it, then do you expect people to just drop their established opinions and listen to you.
i only expect my own fun
and mocking the opinion of those who think modern sonic is good is well reasonable
modern sonic is nothing but an incoherent mess
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>>387077978
Top kek
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>>387068839
>Have to hack the game to make it good.

No
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>>387074581
>R
>R1
>R2

If you don't mind me asking, is R supposed to be R3? What about L1 and L2 or am I missing something here?
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>>387078042
Zero appears in advance 2, and thanks to the DX remake, we now know it was cream that dropped the ice key.

Advance 2 happens before adventure.
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>>387078218
Mania is canon, it's stated to directly take place after 3&K.
>>387078223
Generations isn't canon.
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>>387078029
Fuck you, Blue Sphere is one of the best special stages out there, only potentially outclassed by Mania's special stage. I'd play that app in a heartbeat.
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>>387078059
I can't be the only one that thinks sonic x is good
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>>387078321
By that logic Sonic X is canon too.
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>>387078302
>game is good
>or you can use a romhack that makes it even better
You can just be a dipshit if you want to too.
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>>387078104
There is no modern timeline. There is a boom timeline, a Sonic timeline, and a pint timeline.
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>>387077981
>Advance 2 is still a great game
>but I would play Advance 2 over Sonic CD especially 3.
Yuck
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>>387078109
look at that fucking shit
big ass hands
that nigger hip-hop stance
big clown shoes
shit-eating grin
that beachy background making the cover look like its from some sort of summer songs compilation
what a fucking shitty design
sega did hard drugs starting 1998
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Done arguing with people, just thought I'd complete the set.
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Still no leaks about the Super Form for Knuckles and Tails in Mania?
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>>387078325
HOW IS GENERATIONS NOT CANON?
>>387078404
Sonic x is not a game
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>>387078250
I want to find you and beat the fucking shit out of you
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>>387045771
It's going to be Lost World-tier in the worst case scenario and cult GOTY in the best case.

Odds favor it being a good game. All they need to do is not experiment with any outrageously stupid gimmicks, handle the writing like they did with Colors and Generations, and make sure the game isn't buggy as fuck.
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>>387077315
https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/e235934695
https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/x500029564

Wait until the last hours or minutes to place your bid. These things go for high prices. Alternatively, get a Retrolink controller, a Saturn controller, and swap the PCBs.
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>>387073247
>Butchering an artist's work and not playing their vision as pure as they intended

Cancer.
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>>387078556
do it
you limp wristed faggot
HAHAHAHA
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>>387078498
You mad, nigger?
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>thread devolves into timeline shitflinging because someone posted a tripfag's fanfiction
god i fucking hate you fags
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>>387078651
i'm not sure
i think i'm mad but your pictures make me laugh
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>>387078683
Probe the 3 timeline theory isn’t correct. I don’t see how you can disprove it.
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>>387078649
Give me an address lol. I'm 100% serious. You think you can get away with being a keyboard warrior? I know for a fact you don't ever talk like this irl
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>>387078564
>handle the writing like they did with Colors and Generations
So, have next to no plot with cutscenes mostly existing for the characters to stand around making shitty jokes?
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>everyone would be happy in 24hours for Mania
>got leaked because of Mark
>Reviews are gonna slap Mania in the face because of Oil Ocean thx to based 12 Game Over
>PC got delayed because of a Leak from Switch version
>All Mania threads are shit now
Bad Future
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i can i get uhhhhhhh new thread?
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The classic Genesis games are fucking garbage and even 06 and heroes is better
>>387078804
What's ur favorite Adventure game???
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>>387078925
that's lost world, anon
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>>387078925
They need to go back to Unleashed. Unleashed had the pe defect balance of story being serious and silly.
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>>387078094
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>>387073594
I think you're mistaking me for somebody else.
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>>387078785
well for starters, eggman's line could be interpreted differently, as he's clearly modern eggman in classic sonic's dimension

that just means classic is retconned to being from another dimension instead of from the past, that's it
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>>387078325
Mania is non-canon because it links to Forces
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>>387078998
Adventure 1&2, Heroes, Shadow, Riders, 06, Secret Rings, Unleashed, Zero Gravity and Black Knight are all god tier, amazing, beautiful games. I'd have to say Heroes is my favorite though
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>>387078595
But that's exactly how those people started

You're being ironic aren't you
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>>387079050
>"tails"
for some reason that made me laugh.
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>>387056580
Go back to Twitter you try-hard faggot
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>>387079014
Lost World was even worse because Pontaff tried to have some moments of drama in the middle of all that and the tone was all over the place.
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>>387079185
Good taste
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>>387079119
“He’s clearly modern Eggman in Classic sonic's dimension”

No. He is clearly in the prime timeline as eggman prime with pint sized Sonic. If not, tails and the resistance wouldn’t be there.
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>>387079157
>It's not canon cuz I don't like it!
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>>387079234
why?
tails is his nickname
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>>387079234
"""""Tails""""""
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>>387078325
>Generations isn't canon
What did he mean by this?
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>>387078223
It's not ridiculous at all you fucking cancerous tripfag nigger.
Classic Sonic is 16 years old(pic fucking related) and I will never accept Iizuka's """"canon"""" nor his pathetic rectcons which seek to shit all over the games the real Sonic Team worked on in the 90s
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>>387079342
that generations isn't canon
no matter how many QUANTUM TIMELINES you try to come up with
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>>387079324
I know anon, it just sounds so cold and indifferent I can't help but chuckle
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>>387079370
this
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>>387079031
>Unleashedfag
Of fucking course the tripfaggot is a cancerous millennial
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>>387078542
>>387079157
>>387079342
Forces is the current canon. Mania is canon as it links to this. Generations is retconned by Forces because it's the "first" appearance of Classic Sonic in canon, Generations was a pandershot spinoff that added nothing to the main canon of either line. The ending of Mania proves that Classic and Modern are separate dimensions.
As bad as Forces might be or look, it's the current canon.
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>>387079421
Generation is not a big deal, far to reach the plot hole level of Blaze in Sonic 06 for me.
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>>387079421
Explain why it isn’t canon.
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>>387079370
>the real Sonic Team
where are them now?
what happened to the original people who made sonic?
why aren't them the ones who made mania?
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>>387079531
What's a better written 3D Sonic game?
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>>387079370
>meanwhile in the good future
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The Adventure games had the best game feel and control for Sonic in all of the 3D games. His weight and acceleration is fucking perfect, the spindash is fun as fuck to use and speedrun with, especially on a gamecube controller he just feels completely natural to control and I just want Sega to recapture this. He's literally never had this kind of control ever since they fucked it up in Heroes.
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I don't know what you guys are talking about but sonic 4 episode 1 has that one casino street act with the cannons and I hated that shit, can I be angry too?
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>>387079303
It's not canon because that yellow buckteeth faggot Iizuka is trying to shit on the classic universe with his deviantart bullshit.
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>>387079531
So you’re either an underaged Centenial or a 35+ plus gen Xer arguing with kiddies on /v/ on a Sunday?
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>>387079563
because sonic has no canon since 98
just a bunch of experimental-ish games with shitty plots and barely no continuity
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>>387079050
That's not manual. That's some wiki article written by someone based on his interpretation on cutscenes. I checked both Sonic 3 and Sonic&Knuckles manual in Japanese and US version for each of them, and didn't find that.
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>>387079257
based taxman
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>>387079648
what are they showing in those pics?
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>>387079702
Shitting on Sonic 4 is always welcome.
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>>387079731
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What the fuck is the is underage like banter and shitposting coming from? I know this is a sonic thread but holy fuck you can smell the autism.
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>>387079608
Yasuhara stopped working on Sonic after 3D Blast and R(he hated 3D Blast) and left Sega in 2002.
Oshima left to form his own studio after Adventure
Naka left shortly before '06

A ton of artists and writers just retired or something
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>>387079731
barely any* continuity
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Someone make a new trhead
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>>387079646
>Story
Nobody gives a shit. The game sucks.
The story isn't even that good it's the same shit as Adventure except less cheesy and better directed.
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>>387079865
>Loses argument
>Laughs at own inferiority
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>>387079648
What is that?
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>>387080003
Well the topic was about the story so why'd you get involoved if you don't give a shit?
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>>387080003
Every Sonic plot after 3&Knux and before Unleashed is shit, but Adventure 1 at least had Gamma. That alone puts it above the rest in that era.
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>>387079891
this is fucking sad
if sonic is not on the hands of his original creators then what we've been getting isn't really sonic
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>>387079731
Pretty much this
FFS they killed Shadow at the end of SA2 and they brought him back for Heroes and later games anyways because of fan demand.
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>>387079240
End your life
>>387079874
You shouldn't be saying that while posting Pokemon you dumb fucking rejected niiigggeeer
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>>387079797
That's is from the jap manual you idiot




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