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>Q: So it's possible Sony could exceed its profit forecast?
>A: At the moment, we can say with certainty that 630 billion yen is achievable. But even our strongest operations have issues to be tackled. Our greatest risk now is losing our intensity.
>Q: What sort of issues?
>A: At our gaming business, sales of the PlayStation 4 are strong heading into the holidays. But we can't ignore the Nintendo Switch, which has also captured consumers' attention. Our business model involves selling both the game console and the software for it, so we're working to get more customers paying continuously for content, for example through paid subscription services.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Sony-s-path-forward-begins-with-record-profit-Planning-chief?page=1

tl;dr: brace yourselves for the Playstation Swap™ and people defending it as something original and great.
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And they said Nintendo is not competition for Sony
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>so we're working to get more customers paying continuously for content, for example through paid subscription services
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>>399240798
5 DORRA ONRINE PASS FOR EACH ONRINE GAME
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>>399240186
>so we're working to get more customers paying continuously for content, for example through paid subscription services
Sonybros had better bend over and get ready for that PS Plus price hike.
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they're not going to make a handheld + console. it'd be a massive downgrade from the ps4 and no one would be happy with that.
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>>399240798
You pay for the console.
You pay for the game.
You pay for DLCs.
You pay for playing online.
You pay to play old ps2 games (when BC could do it for free).
What's next? You pay to breathe while using the ps4?
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>>399240923
That's what I'm thinking, they're in a tough position.
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>>399240923
>they're not going to make a handheld + console.
They totally are. And you're going to buy it too.
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Sony's patent for a handheld predates the Swatch
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>>399240987
Please. I learned my lesson regarding Sony supporting their handhelds three years ago.
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>>399240923
PS4Pro laptop is happening, you know it.
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>>399240186
It's their other divisions. They gambled hard on smart tvs and that shit flopped tremendously. Isn't their gaming division the only profitable part of the company?
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>>399241054
That patent copied another thing though.
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>>399241108
Gaming, imaging, some other shit, but mostly their Japanese insurance division.
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>>399240936
>subscription to unlock full potential of console
>ps++ subscription to be able to download games more than twice
>Proprietary sony memory cards for ps5 instead of hdd
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>>399240987
They literally just said, to the one group of people a company can't actually lie to, that their plan is to double down on GaaS and Subcriptions. All the mouth breathers saw "Sony mentions Switch as competition" and immediately their dumb monkey brains jumped to "VITA 2.0, SONY WINS AGAIN BABY." They're not going to do that, they're just going to try and milk more out of the home console market that they have an overwhelming domination of. They didn't even say they were going to sell more systems, they said they're going to try and get more money out of people who are already in their ecosystem.
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>>399241108
Let's not pretend their gaming division is 100% healthy though. They got their fair share of big money drainers like the ps3 launch and Vita.
How's VR going for Sony?
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>>399241261
They will make a ps4 redesign that will double down as a home console and handheld. Simple as that.
You can't possibly not seeing it coming.
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>>399240186
Fuck, Switch is killing sony this way. No, I'm wrong, it's not killing sony, it's killing sony players because they are going to have to pay for everything.
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>>399241054

The idea has existed since the Sega Game Gear.
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>>399240186
>Sonygras will have to pay for their internet THRICE
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>>399240923
Just make a PS4 portable for 400$, sold at loss, and make it work with all existing digital PS4 titles and people will buy that shit
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>>399241475
Remember the Nomad? It's literally a handheld Genesis.
And now Sony fanboys pretend that patent is hot shit.
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A company acknowledges a rival company's success. What is there to really discuss?
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>>399241643
No they won't, it'd be another PS3
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>>399241412
Yeah, maybe in five years, if battery and cooling tech get much better much more quickly. There's a reason the Switch throttles performance when not docked and it's not because the Switch can somehow only run at full blast when balanced on a mostly empty hunk of plastic and a USB-C connection. You need more power than the batteries you have available are going to be able to provide for any appreciable length of time. People are already shitting on the Switch's battery life with its most power hungry games and it still has the battery take up a good chunk of its internals and has more juice than any Iphone ever. The Switch may also not be melting fingers but it wouldn't exactly be comfortable either to be running as hot as it gets in the dock in your hands.

The Switch is proof you could have its docked performance in your hands right now if not for battery life and cooling concerns. Maybe make it bigger, more expensive. It's the triangle: better performance, smaller size, lower cost, choose any two.
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>>399241658
Given the performance of the PS4 it doesn't even need to be a loss at $400. Could be break even or minor profit.
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>>399240186
Sony will release PS4Portable when AMD will create small CPUs killing switch in it's tracks.
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>>399241824
what the fuck is this post?
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>>399241783
>has more juice than any iphone ever
You say that like it's impressive. A few 18650 cells taped onto the back increase the battery life a fuckload. Which is why you see all those attachable power banks for it.
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switch is done for though. they shot their load with all their 1st party big releases this year. expect a massive drought in the next year. meanwhile sony is going to be firing off their big boys at the start of the year.
the switch is dead.
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>>399241765
But ps fanboys told me Sony doesn't consider Nintendo as their opponent.
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>>399241965
>He doesn't know about January Direct
>Nor the newfound 3rd party backup
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>>399241965
Clearly, Sony doesn't agree with you.
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>>399241965
>sony fires their big buys after 4 years
lol
>they shot their load with all their 1st party big releases this year
oh yeah they have Mario, Zelda and...
>no Animal Crossing
>no Smash
>no 2D Mario
>no 2D Zelda
>no Pokémon
>no Metroid
>no FE
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>>399240186
>implying the Switch is original to begin with
Nintenpedos will defend this.
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>>399241875
It's not that it's supposed to be impressive on its own, it's to head off dumbasses who compare it to a phone's battery life. And while it increases battery life a lot for the Switch as it current runs in handheld mode, to get anything like a portable PS4 you're looking at power draw even greater than the docked Switch needs. Not to mention the higher heat being put out and all the other shit you'd need to shove in there to begin with. How big is this going to get? Don't forget it'd be laughable to even consider putting a BD drive in, so you not only need to go download only but the hilarious filesizes of home console games mean you'd need to have a lot of memory. And all of that without even the promise that'd it even sell in a mature PS4 market. Or that you could even stomach the cost to make it and sell it at a reasonable price.

It's a pipedream for anything but a generation or two from now.
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What success
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>>399240798
Based stoned navy admiral
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>>399241965
This meme is getting stale.
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>>399240186
>so we're working to get more customers paying continuously for content, for example through paid subscription services.
this is the future you chose
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>>399242290
60-65W would be more than enough for it. Even with conversion losses, 2 20,000mah powerbank equivalents (74W) would be able to get 2h of life out of it at full like the switch currently. Heat is an issue, so you need to dedicate a few watts for fans.

As for size, it really depends on what people find portable. The switch can fit in a pocket easily, it could be a lot larger and still be portable.
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>>399240798
It'll be like that on PC in the US too once Net Neutrality gets repealed. Enjoy having to pay 10 dollars a month extra to your ISP for their "Gaming Package" that lets you access the servers of Steam, Blizzard and other various gaming companies amerilard.
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>>399241965
This but of course I dont expect Ninteniggers too actually admit to it.

The current shitch "sucess" is just the fanboyautists running to buy the latest nintendo handheld. After that is over the fall begins.
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Looks like ps now is here to stay?
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For fuck's sake, Sony.
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>>399241965
Pokemon.
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>>399242462
>The switch can fit in a pocket easily
Jesus Christ, how big are your pants?
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>>399242462
>tfw you can't fit a switch in your pocket
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>>399241108
>Isn't their gaming division the only profitable part of the company?
They make vastly more bank from their insurance division than the gaming one.
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>>399242567
Internal suit pocket. Even the small ones in it can hold the switch easily. Haven't tried in my trousers.
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>>399242462
Goddamn, man. Lose a few pounds. I consider myself fat as fuck and I can't even put my 3DS in my front pocket comfortably.
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Is this what happens when you make so little software? I mean it's fair enough that third parties are thriving on the thing, but profit margins are much thinner than if you were putting out first party software more often.
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>>399242758
Agreed, Sony should cut the budgets by 4 times and release low effort rehashes like Nintendo more often.
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>>399242845
Or, you know, put out more than 3 first party games a year.
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>>399242753
I am working on dropping down. From 14% body fat to 11%
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>>399242876
Yes, like I said I agree that Sony needs to shit out more shovelware like nintendo.
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>>399242290
>Digital only
>Massive filesize of current games
>Sony's dogshit download servers
>No Ethernet port because lol handheld
Buying and installing games would be even worse than steam in 2004.
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>>399242758
I doubt that matters much. They may make more bank per game on their own first party titles, but when there's a bunch of third party multiplats selling many times there first party productd just on the PS4, it hardly matters. The real problem here is expected growth, not that Sony isn't making more money on the PS4 than ever. Every investor buying in wants growth from where they started. There will always be a push to be raking in more money than previously, and to be making that ever faster. Right now the only real avenue to do that is GaaS. Sony makes most of the PS4 money right from its PSN alone, and it's still probably got room to make more. On paper, at least. Every Sony investor is looking at EA and Activision's GaaS departments breaking records every year and wants that.

Whether the current hubbub over Battlefront 2 loot boxes ever makes any sort of dent in that sector or not remains to be seen, but the industry still seems pretty convinced it's the future for now.
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>>399242441
I didn't choose that future.
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>>399243148
It matters tremendously.
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>>399243531
>at every console launch's year Sony loses money
kek
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>>399243531
wtf is wrong with Sony?
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>>399240186
>A: At our gaming business, sales of the PlayStation 4 are strong heading into the holidays. But we can't ignore the Nintendo Switch, which has also captured consumers' attention. Our business model involves selling both the game console and the software for it, so we're working to get more customers paying continuously for content, for example through paid subscription services.

HOW ABOUT MAKING GAMES RETARD
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>>399243531
This has much more to do with the kind of business Sony is running versus how Nintendo runs it, not just the amount of first party titles they put out,
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>>399240186
Fuck off retard.
Sony it's a fucking holding, the Playstation brand could even sink in debt, but Sony where allways try to push new consoles into your living room.
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>>399243531
>sony's current profits are entirely off of the back of paid online

Truly our greatest ally.

>>399243661
Pretty much.
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Reminds me of the drink a verification can to continue copypasta.
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>PS4 is their first console since the PS1 that isn't a massive pain in the ass to develop for
>Has the worst library of any playstation, even worse than the fucking vita
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>>399243658
games? what's that? like movies where you press buttons to make the plot progress?
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>>399243661
Sony's business strategy is making a third party royalty machine and taking a loss to get it into households.
Nintendo's business strategy is to cultivate a marketplace where their own first party titles are dominant.
Clearly Nintendo's business strategy is more profitable.
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>>399243727
Funny how they went from POWER OF THE CELL to a prebuilt PC in just one gen.
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>>399243148
It absolutely makea a big difference. The third party profit margins are much thinner.
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>>399242441
What are you, poor?
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>>399243757
Nintendo also runs a tighter ship budget-wise and didn't even get into HD production until the WiiU. The HD shift made the AA industry worldwide commit collective suicide trying to keep up. Sony is chasing the big, mainstream market and this reflects itself in the cost of the hardware, the cost of the games, the cost of advertising, and the cost to get that all up and running. Nintendo meanwhile seems committed to a smaller scale of production that relies upon maintaining the strength of their IPs and gameplay with less powerful hardware. It's worked out for them in the long run, but look at that massive fucking drop 2008-2011. That scares investors. Things are all shiny happy now, but this is the consequence of the way Nintendo tries to not chase the next big thing, but set the standard for the next big thing.

Keep in mind Nintendo only has the vast amount of cash it does because it's making one of the worst decisions you can make as business with that money: not spending it. Conventional business wisdom is to reinvest right away into something that makes you money faster than just letting it sit around. It's good if you end up beefing your next big console and need to burn some cash righting the ship. It takes a corporate culture devoted to this kind of work place to work, and for three out of the last four generations, it didn't look like it would work. 2005-2008 looks great, but Sony has been beating them them the last 8 years and they were pretty close before 2005.

Most importantly, Sony simply can't make that shift. It's more than talent, it's corporate culture. You can't just swerve from how Sony operates to how Nintendo operates easily, quickly, or without a serious risk of just jumping into the abyss. Sony had to find a way to stay the course but better, and they're super fucking lucky Microsoft decided to shoot itself in the foot first this gen. Especially with the Japanese home console market shrinking.
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So, are all of Sony's JP games going to be gachashit now?
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>>399243757
But Nintendo has been shit at consoles since the n64 ended. It took them 20+ years to not release a shit console
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>>399242286
literally copied the wii u gamepad
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>>399243836
You can thank Mark Cerny for that, Sony did want to keep using Cell but Cerny had a ton of third party devs begging him to use PC architecture for the PS4 and forced Sony to cave
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>>399240936

You pay for the console.
You pay for the game.
You pay for DLCs.
You will pay for playing online.
You pay to play old WiiU/Wii/Gamecube games (when BC could do it for free).
What's next? You pay to breathe while using the Switch?

I'm amazed I only had to change 3 terms.
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>>399246137
>b-but nintendo!!
everytime
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Meeting one of the chqirmen of sony today at the place i work, what should I ask if I get the chance to
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>>399240186
Bump
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>>399240186
>so we're working to get more customers paying continuously for content, for example through paid subscription services.

Amazing
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>>399240186
>so we're working to get more customers paying continuously for content, for example through paid subscription services.
>instead of making many things you only pay once, we'll make one thing you have to pay many times
this is the power of Sony
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>>399246137
Wii U had BC tho. Unfortunately the Switch can't live up to that because it doesn't use fucking discs anymore, it's not really the same situation
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The switch literally copied the vita. Its nintendo that are officially creatively bankrupt.

But hey bing bing wahoo right guys?
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>>399247571
what?
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>>399241965
>meanwhile sony is going to be firing off their big boys at the start of the year
such as?
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>>399247225
Wtf is going on in that pic?
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>>399247313
The real problem is Nintendo is super stingy with letting you bring your previous digital VC purchases over to new consoles. I recall you could pay a nominal fee for Wii to WiiU, but that was it. No way to go between the 3DS and WiiU. And I doubt whatever they announce for the Switch VC will be any better. They could earn a lot of good will by just making those transfer for free, as I bet they'd lose very few sales just from that considering the lack of WiiU purchases. People prefer to just spend money anyway rather than go through the hassle of transferring shit with that amount of money too, but it sounds worse if they feel like they have to. 3DS will have some overlap, but I think at this point with the Switch, good PR would out weigh however many would've been okay with repurchasing.
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>>399247654
loli wants more sex
guy is tired and asks for a break
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>>399241108
Photo cameras are doing quite well.
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>>399247609
Probably thinks MHW is going to do super high numbers. It'll probably be at least DQ, which is nothing to sneeze at, but that's a far cry from where it used to be.
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>>399247831
as much as i hate capcom i still want MHW to be a semi success on PC because i have 1(one) friend that actually likes monhunt and i want to play a game with friends again after 2 years of playing single player games
but i still have a bad feeling about the whole "we want the wetsern audience" thing
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>>399247681
you get the same problem on PS3/PS4 as wel for the most part. It's odd but the only one doing this right is mircosoft with the xbone BC, too bad the Xbone is useless in general with literally no exclusives.
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>>399240936
You forgot the lack of PS3 BC so you pay either for PS3 or remasters
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>>399244575
Sony already owns the most popular gacha, they wouldn't want to oversaturate the market
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>>399242876
>Or, you know, put out more than 3 first party games a year
They put out 5 this year, whether your like that or not changes nothing.
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>>399248075
The bright side is that unless it's a truly unprecedented flop, they'll simply have to keep going with it no matter how bad it sells. They've obviously poured so much money into it simply cutting it off would be even worse. It'll at least last for a few years, maybe some price gouging with new versions as full separate releases or DLC. Maybe just a general drop in new content compared to what they might have done. The immediate future should be fine enough. At worst people will have to put up with shitposting about it.

After that, things get murkier. MH is a bit more secure simply due to nepotism, so it also has that going for it. I suppose MHW might just end up sucking, but veterans simply mostly okay with it so far. The beta should be out pretty much any minute, right? Maybe there will be a bunch of new shitters to bitch about? Who knows? The next time around, though, they might do something really dumb. But that's years away and we might all be dead by then.
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>>399242507
Won't happen. In an ideal word, it'll keep the poor and pirate trash out.
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>>399248553
lol which games, horizon and...?
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>>399246137
>You pay to play old WiiU/Wii/Gamecube games
Hell, you pay for 20-30 year old SNES/NES games, sometimes pretty hefty amount too.
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>>399240936
>What's next? You pay to breathe
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>>399241965
Nintendo sucks, Sony sucks, Xbox sucks. Here is some food for thought though; All Nintendo needs next year is Pokemon / Smash. I cannot think of a single exclsuive on any other platform that has the selling power of Pokemon or Smash, so, the Switch, no matter how much we hate it, only needs to drop literally one game next year and it will be a success that lasts the whole year.

But, yeah, once Pokemon / Smash drops, the Switch will have little else to push out, but, again, all it needs to stay afloat are those two games so... take of that what you will.
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>>399240936
correct me if I'm wrong, but you do that for the Switch as well.
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yes they can

you can do anything when you have bloodborne
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>>399249871
Gravity rush 2
Everybodys golf
GT sport
Knack 2
Horizon

There 5
>b-but they're shit
Your opinion is irrelevant, they factually released 5 first party games this year.
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>>399251376
>shovelware
lol
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So this means they are gonna increase the PSN+ fee again, right? I mean, it's not like they can provide games or new hardware to reach their expectations at the moment.
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>>399246137
It's not okay that we gotta pay for online now but at least it's going to be cheaper than the competitions online subscriptions.
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Seriously though, the Switch doesn't have anything for 2018. I expect them to release some WiiU remasters.
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>>399240186
Didn’t Sony say recently something along the lines of limited appeal of handhelds where it was clearly aimed at the switch?
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>>399251569
One year ago the Switch didn't have anything for 2017.
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Oh boy i cant wait for the shitty Sony clone .

Sony will copy yet another concept from Nintendo and will not get what makes it so special
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>>399242441
Isnt the nigga that made that comic dead?
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>>399251437
>Literally none of those could be considered anything like shovelware.
>I got called out for talking shit and need a comeback, so I'll call them shovelware regardless.
>T-that'll teach em, r-right?

Oh yeah, you completely nailed it.
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>>399241212
>ps++ subscription to be able to download games more than twice
??
>>399241607
4 times in the US soon.
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>>399251828
I learned from this guy >>399242986
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>>399251376
>Knack 2
Come on anon the PS4 has like 700 or so games. You don't need to list that knakin disaster of a game series.
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>>399251845
The joke is that memory will be scant, so you won't be able to have all your purchases downloaded/installed at once. Which you can't really now anyway. So if you want to go back and play your games, you'd need to redownload it, and after that you'd have to get a better subcription to download it any more time.
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>>399251781
Kill yourself faggot
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>>399240186
Why would Sony need to be afraid of a gimmick device?
>>leading in hardware
>>have a pro edition that doing quite well
>>have $249 model that could easily be permanently lowered to $199 if they wanted to
>>guaranteed 3rd party titles
>>have big titles just around the corner
>>popular in europe(the place that matters)
sony has nothing to fear.
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>>399251569
At least one of Fire emblem/Pokemon/Metroid is dropping next year
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>>399240186
>so we're working to get more customers paying continuously for content, for example through paid subscription services
What you need are games for crying out loud
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>>399240186
So in other words;
>People are starting to realize Nintendo doesn't fuck their consumers as hard as we do
kek
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>>399241108
>Isn't their gaming division the only profitable part of the company?
If that were true they would be bankrupt but they have lost a lot over the years. From Wikipedia
>In September 2000 Sony had a market capitalization of $100 billion; but by December 2011 it had plunged to $18 billion
>In April 2012, Sony announced that it would reduce its workforce by 10,000 (6% of its employee base) as part of CEO Hirai's effort to get the company back into the black. This came after a loss of 520 billion yen (roughly US$6.36 billion) for fiscal 2012
>On 28 January 2014, Moody's Investors Services dropped Sony's credit rating to Ba1—"judged to have speculative elements and a significant credit risk"—saying that the company's "profitability is likely to remain weak and volatile.
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>>399240186
>people defending it as something original and great
You mean like the Switch or Ubisofts BrotW?
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>>399253457
>Nintendo doesn't fuck their consumers as hard as we do
no, they do.
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>>399253457
Nintendo fucks them far harder actually and they've been doing so since their monopoly days in the 80s/90s. Microsoft and Sony can only dream about being as anti consumer as Nintendo.
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>>399253780
>Quality figurine with DLC
Still better than having to buy both seperately.
Meanwhile Sony is so out of touch it's unreal.
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>>399253869
how so?
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>>399253898
>>Quality figurine
"""""""""""""""""quality"""""""""""""""""
lol
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>>399246137
Nintendo is by far th lesser evil.
Also native BC is not posibble because the swithc is does not have the same architecture.
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https://gematsu.com/2017/12/ps4-worldwide-sales-top-70-6-million-playstation-vr-tops-two-million

>Over 617.8 million PlayStation 4 games sold
>PS4 worldwide sales top 70.6 million, PlayStation VR tops two million
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>>399253997
BC isn't possible for PS4 because it doesn't have the same architecture.
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>>399253898
>Quality
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>>399253973
I don't care either way since I pirated all my shit on Wii U and can play pretty much the entire NIntendo library on it.
Can't do that with Sony consoles so they makes you pay 40 bucks for a 3rd remaster of a 15 year old game.
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>>399253997
Architectur isn't really the problem except for WiiU games maybe, the bigger problem is that it can't read discs
Ps4 could easily emulate PS1 and 2 though but 3 is almost impossible.
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>>399240186
Need more cute, hot women in games.
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>>399251376
>using knack as ammo.

what's nex, lbp?
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>>399254101
>they're a bad company because I can't steal their games
lol
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>>399240585
It's funny in a way, Nintendo going full gimmick on the Switch was probably to avoid competition with the "hardcore gaming" on PS4.
I'm pretty sure this is surprising them as well.
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>>399254101
>they makes you pay 40 bucks for a 3rd remaster of a 15 year old game.
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>>399240936
you pay to actually use it at all
im seriously surprised this isnt a thing
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>>399254167
They're both shit companies.
How is Sony any better though?
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>>399254216
pic unrelated?
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Video gaming redpill coming right up:

Sony doesn’t care about switch doing wel in hardware sales.
Sony (and microsoft) are scared shitless of the fact that modern consumers buy very VERY few games compared to earlier gens.
Just take a look at the sales of gran turismo through the years.
But for some reason (compensation for extreme game draught last gen is my guess) switch users buy a ton of videogames more than the other console owners.
This is also the reason sony is okayish with releasing software on pc that would have been exclusive last gen, its to make enough profit.
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>>399254298
>literally it's okay when Nintendo does it
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>>399254216
You can still play the original GC version on both Wii and Wii U.
On PS consoles you HAVE to buy the remake/remaster.
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>>399254362
>3rd remaster
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>>399254268
You said Sony is worse
Stop moving the goalpost
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>>399254167
You should be able to play games you already own.

PC doesn't get you to buy remasters when you upgrade, and nintendo consoles used to have bc.
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>every new generation is exactly the same but more powerful
>never innovates, just copies nintendo if they see consumers are eating it up
don't be surprised, its coming.
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>>399241965
This. They released too many games too quickly. They should do what based Sony does and show the same games every year but never actually fucking release them.
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>>399254425
And you're saying they're not but you haven't shown the rest of us anything to back that up.
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>>399254184
They always go full gimmick. The last time they actually tried to compete was in the GC days and even then they wanted you to walk around with that thing and put a fucking handle on it and made an autism awareness controller because le so different.
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>>399254382
>and Wii U
Gotta hack it to do that, though. For some reason.
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>>399254382
>You can still play the original GC version on... Wii U.
No. And if you're talking about homebrew, that didn't become a reality until this year, so it isn't an argument.
>On PS consoles you HAVE to buy the remake/remaster.
No, you can just play it on your old PS2 or 3.
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>>399254459
>nintendo consoles used to have bc.
>used to
Key phrase there, buddy. Can't praise them for something they don't do anymore.
Switch's successor won't have BC for the Switch either.
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>>399254620
Not him but xbox and pc both let you run old games
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>>399254459
And PlayStation consoles used to have bc
Vita and PS4 are the first ones not to have it
>>399254493
Tell me how they copied nintendo
They tried to do the shitty motion sensor stuff before nintendo and many people before them also tried
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>>399242462
>The switch can fit in a pocket easily
Without the joycons, you can at least say it can fit into a pocket. Barely. Considering that you won't be playing shit without them, that statement is just bullshit.
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>>399254020
Counting those $5 flash sales as full games sure makes it easy to reach high numbers.
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>>399254673
That and paid online are the main reasons I'm not bothering with the switch. Consoles have got so far from the "plug and play with no extra costs" meme it's ridiculous
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>>399242462
Switch can fit in a pocket if you remove joycons wallet keys phone and more
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>>399254720
Never mind him anon.
Just another Sonyfriend desperately grasping at straws to justify their no-games overly expensive paperweight.
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>>399242462
jesus man how large are your pockets? how large are your pants you fat bastard?
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>>399254340
>switch users buy a ton of videogames more than the other console owners
They're selling a lot of games because it's portable. They nailed the marketing for the Switch but the real reason is simply that people want to play games on the go.
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So many haters. How can you not love glorious nippon company ?
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>>399240936
ONLINE IS KILLING VIDEOGAMES, STOP ASKING FOR MULTIPLAYER GAMES.
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>>399254720
I was talking about Playstation and nintendo stop moving the goalpost
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>>399255014
Because not everyone is a corporate bootlicker.
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>Want to buy a Switch to play Weebblade 2
>No bundles
>No Christmass offers
GODDAMNIT
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Feels good to be Xboxtendo master race. Use the Switch for Nintendo games and most upcoming Japanese games, and the Xbox for western games/multiplats, MS exclusives, BC, a media center, and the rare Jap game that makes it to Xbone and not Switch (like Monster Hunter World). Fuck Sony garbage. Never cared for them. Garbage online servers that get hacked and no BC on PS4.
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>>399255081
Why should either be excused?

>hurr durr my console has a extremely shit aspect, it doesn't matter since yours does too despite pc/xbone not having this issue
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>>399240186
I've owned every PlayStation console, it has always been the best option without exception, best games on ps1, massive library in ps2, exclusives and free online in ps3, and I've always wanted the ps4 since it came out, but now that I actually have time and money, I don't feel it anymore, the paid online, people used to call it bloodborne machine, and that was OK, but it has been 4 years, and still is nothing more than that, I think I'm done with gaming platform, I'll just stick with my ps3, I really wanted to play bloodborne, but its not worth the hassle
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>>399253748
No, he means more like the Move.
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>>399255306
Neither should be excused. So why does Nintendo get a pass around here?
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>>399248075
As much I hate to admit it, I think its for the best if the main series died with World to prevent the B-team from Frontierizing it again with another X series game.
I hate to see MH go back to its down-to-earth roots, only to relapse to its JRPG phase once more in desperation.
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>>399255248
>no BC on PS4.
Switch doesn't have it either.
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>>399255306
It's because nobody except you mentioned them
We we're arguing about nintendo and Sony being shit
That's like talking about the blackberry vs a windows phone and then someone starts talking about Android and iPhone is better when the argument was about Android vs iPhone
>>399255395
Maybe you will find something you like next year or maybe not it all depends on what type of games you like and all that
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>>399255697
I meant to say blackberry vs windows
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>>399255395
>I really wanted to play bloodborne
/v/ oversells it like crazy. I have it, and its a good game, but its faaaaar from being the best game ever made like /v/ says it is. I think half the love for the game here is the fact that its exclusive, giving many anons a bragging rights boner. DaS1 is still the best to me.
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>>399240186
>so we're working to get more customers paying continuously for content, for example through paid subscription services.
Sony can fuck off forever. I hate what they've become.
But it wasn't that long ago they said that they'd invest more in "games as a service". So this just sounds like something in line with that. But it remains absolutely disgusting nonetheless.
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>>399255612
It doesn't.
Stop imagining things.
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>>399255612
they have games
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>>399251048
Only because Sony and every fucker who paid for it made it an industry standard.
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>>399255248
>and the Xbox for western games/multiplats, MS exclusives, BC, a media center, and the rare Jap game that makes it to Xbone and not Switch (like Monster Hunter World).
Except literally all of those points you make are null when you realize they are all on PC but keep justifying your Xbone X purchas
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>>399254043
Except it can? I have a bunch of PS2 games with no problem on my PS4, did you forget that braindead comment about players not wanting BC by some retarded sony executive?
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>>399255903
They have Mario Splatoon a generic jrpg and a multiplat and fast rmx
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>>399241309
>How's VR going for Sony?
Same as with everyone else who tried that shit, poorly
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>>399255696
Well how would you fit a Wii U disc thats bigger than the fucking tablet into the thing? Also, sony showed us that discs in a portable console is a stupid idea with the Psp. And how would they get the 2 screens gamepad features onto a device that only uses 1 screen. With ps4, the controller and console are the same damn thing. Whats their excuse?
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>>399248075
It doesn't have to be a big success, just enough for capcom to see that there is a market but small enough to see that they are fucking retards for pandering to the inexistent casual western market, maybe the next pc/console MH game might be less like this one I hope
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>>399256098
Sony vr is doing really well dumb dumb
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>>399256152
>Well how would you fit a Wii U disc thats bigger than the fucking tablet into the thing?
You could play GB games on the GC they have zero excuse to not try to do the same with the Switch
>Whats their excuse?
Maybe if you werent a mouth breathing idiot you would known the architecture between the PS3 and 4 is vastly different, hell the reason why the PS3 was such a nightmare it was because it needed to find a way to emulate both PS1 and PS2 disc formats
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The SDF is here guys, everybody go home.
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>>399255697
I suppose, but I still have lots of games to play in my ps3 at least so it doesn't matter that much, looking how things are now I doubt the next generation will be any better
>>399255797
Maybe, but I wanted to try it myself, I still play ds1 every once in a while, the game that I will miss that will really fucking hurt me will be ace combat 7, i had to give up on ace combat 6 last gen for the same reason, fuck man
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>>399242462
The Switch uses less than 10 watts in handheld mode when playing the most demanding games and lasts 3 hours. At 70 watts, you're looking at getting 15 minutes from a full charge.
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>>399256327
Holy shit you're actually retarded
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>>399256414
Nice argument
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>>399255957
>have to use Windows Store for my forza
>no halo 3 or even 5
>no playing 360 exclusives like Lost odyssey
>no og xbox games like NGB
>have to spend double the money for the same power has Xbone X
>no RDR2, VC4, delayed MHW
I'll stick with the Xbox, thanks
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>>399256414
So you have no counter argument? Glad to know
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>>399256482
And almost all the things you mentioned can be done with a 360 so again, why did you waste money on a useless upgrade?
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>>399256098
Psvr reached 2 million. The vive and rift are struggling.
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>>399246137
Switch doesn't use discs, making BC impossible. WiiU had no problem with BC.
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>>399255395
You'll be able to play Bloodborne eventually anyway. If not with the PS4, with the PS5, or the Vita 2 (in 2025 or whenever).
I doubt Bloodborne will be forgotten. Backwards compatibility may be a thing of the past, but one of the reasons for why no one wants backwards compatibility now, is because they'd much rather re-sell you their games. We are getting remasters at a more rapid pace than ever before.

The PS4 can go fuck itself. But I am sure we'll see Bloodborne in the future even so. I can wait for it.
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>>399256482
I can get a PC more powerful than the x for 630 maybe less depending on the day or month
And reminder xbox one s cost 550 because of the online fee plus another 50 every year and all the games are more expensive
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>>399256327
OG Xbox architecture is horribly documented and different and yet they got its games runningin 4K on the Xbone
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>>399240186

>In Japan
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>>399255890
There’s alot more Sony hate threads than Nintendo or even Xbox in /v/ tho.
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>>399256727
You now remember that R*ddit fuck who gutted an old Xbox dev kit for his own vanity.
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>>399256370
Ac7 is on PC and Xbone so you dont need a ps4 for it
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>>399241431
Underrated post
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>PS2 has PS1 back cap
>PS3 has PS1 and PS2 back cap
>PS3 removes PS2 back cap
>PS4 removes ALL back cap
>Sony hits Microsoft for having back cap. "Looking forward not back."
>PS4 introduces premium for back cap

Fuck Sony
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>>399257070
They removed bc on ps3 because they got screwed over because of it and a few other reasons
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>>399257009
Well that is nice to hear
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>>399240186
Don’t forget sonybros, the Tegra x1 and 2 are the most powerful SOCs in the world, and they have a contract with Nintendo. Sony snap is impossible
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>>399256727
Because they have access to the original schematics maybe?
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>>399256592
Xbox one x runs 360 and original Xbox games with some graphical enhancements, more stable FPS, faster loading times(VERY noticable in Lost odyssey), etc. And 360 runs OG Xbox games like shit. Also, 360 doesnt play new games so why get that?
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>>399257195
And yet it didn't fuck over any other company that did it before
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>>399257470
It fucked over Sony because of the launch ps3 being 600$ which gave Xbox a even bigger headstart
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>>399257310
If some random autists are able to build a functional ps3 emulator on PC, Sony should be able to do it on ps4. No excuses.
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>>399257581
So the only reason for them not wanting BC is because they are too fucking greedy, as always
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>>399257581
They fucked themselves up by not immediately taking the hit and selling at a loss like Microsoft did.
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>>399251376
>Knack 2
You are making this worst
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>>399257608
?????
I’m not defending sony, I’m explaining how a company has the resources to make an emulator
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>>399257608
Yeah and PC runs the games at 3fps on a PC as powerful as ps4
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>>399257581
Do you think Microsoft and Nintendo did sell their games at a higher price than the previous generation too? They still had backwards compability, only sony who are ultra jews didn't take the hit because they are retards and even then it did not help them at all with the ps3 being a financial blackhole
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>>399256921
>JSRF and all of those other OG xbox sega exclusives will forever be console-bound
Not fucking fair.
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>>399257885
They made a console with incredibly powerful hardware, yet had so many bottlenecks along with the difficulty to program for that it literally could never reach its full potential. It was a mess.
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>>399240186
>>399240798
>so we're working to get more customers paying continuously for content, for example through paid subscription services
How about showing some fucking games for a change, huh? Fuck that asshole forever.
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>>399255632
I miss the old gen Rathalos....
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>>399258172
They had like $200 of unnecessary components in it. The far-weaker 360 ran virtually every multiplat game much better.
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you guys are idiots, the reason sony no longer has BC is because its a gigantic security risk. It basically gurantees there will be an exploit for it. Look at the vita, its locked down tighter your mothers asshole last night and even it got an exploit using the PSP BC. Sony is extremely paranoid about exploits since the PSP came out.
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>>399258426
Xbox1 hack when?
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>>399255248
This, Sonyroaches and PCfats hate hearing the truth, que angry Sonyroach and PCfat bitching in 3, 2, 1.
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>>399257331
This
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>>399258426
Imagine being this stupid.
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>>399258426
Source: see pic
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>PS5 and PS Swap
What are they doing?
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>>399258508
Microsoft has never had to worry since the people who buy their consoles are brainlet normies who don't even know what hacking a console is. Nintendo doesn't care about it because despite having consoles that are about as unsecure as a piece of technology can be, their audience is children who will buy their games anyways.
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>>399258760
>PS5 and PS Swap
You mean the PS 5wap, right?
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>>399259045
I don’t even know at this point.
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>>399258761
>tfw to intellignt to have a secure console
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>>399240936
>What's next? You pay to breathe while using the ps4?
RE7 did try to sell "4D candles" to "heighten" gaming experience, so who knows
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>>399240798
#4thepayers
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>>399255950
Actually that was Microsoft. PS3 had free to play online and PS4 only introduced it because idiots paid for Xbox Live.
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>>399256660
Then why couldn't Wii U play GameCube games when the Wii could?
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>>399259407
And Nintendo introduced it in turn when they saw how much money the other two were making.

Thanks Microsoft.
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>>399259407
Sony introduced PS+ on ps3 as a premium service though. Free online play but they gave you extra "candies".
Nobody forced them to stop doing it for ps4 too. Well, except their greediness.
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>>399259627
The Wii U can play GC games though. It couldn't read GC disc, that's a different matter.
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Daily Reminder that Shuhei Yoshida is a confirmed idort.
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Should have made Ape Escape 4
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>>399259894
That doesn't make all recent ps platforms less shitty.
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Sony would never make a console weaker than base PS4.

They'd have to wait at least 2 more ARM generations and get a deal with either Nvidia or Apple for chipsets.
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>>399259713
I wasn't excusing the paid online on PS4 I was just pointing out that they weren't the ones who invented it.
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So does this mean the rumors of the PS5 releasing in 2020 and the PS5 Portable releasing in 2023 are true.
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Translation: It's the Wii all over again. Expect a Sony Not Switch in the near future just like when we pannicked and followed Nintendo into the hand held market the first time and like when we pannicked and added motion controls to everything.

It's not even a bad thing. Only faggots care about anything over 4k, the graphics war is over. It's time to see how powerful we can make hand held devices.
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>>399242515
>ninteniggers
>admitting anything ever
please
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>>399256298
too bad sony vr is dog shit.
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>>399261217
Way Better than the alternatives
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>>399260945
>Translation
Are people physically incapable of reading the damn words in front of their face? Sony's going to double down on subscriptions and post-purchase purchases, most obviously by extending their PSNow streaming service. I'm not too sure what else there is for Sony to push at the console level, and anything they could would probably be hideous to imagine. Otherwise, it's following the market with GaaS in their first party titles.
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>>399258761
Wasn't the 360 hacked to hell and back last gen?
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>we're looking for ways to really fuck the consumer over

BASED SONY
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>>399256479
You're suggesting they build a peripheral for the Switch (a portable console) with a disc drive. If that's not retarded then I don't know what is.
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>>399255890
see >>399255903
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>>399240186
Fuck off

Sony did hybrid first and has patents before switch was even a sperm in iwatas nut sack, where do you think he stole the idea? All that time on his death bed doing nothing but browsing online
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>>399259407
>Actually that was Microsoft.
No it wasn't. Microsoft were first, and they were alone.
They introduced it. But they alone were by no means an industry standard since no one else did it.
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>>399256152
>B-B-BUT!!!!!
It doesn't have BC. Period. So you can't critcize sony for not having it without doing the same to Nintendo.
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>>399262357
idk but nobody used it since nobody who bought a 360 is smart enough
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>>399256672
And all the Switch games will just come out on the Switch's succesor system (that won't have BC with switch games) so I'm fine waiting for that.
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70.9 million

And that's before black friday and Christmas.
This thing will end the year close to 80.
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>>399264265
Xbox live was, I think, the first time console manufacturers realized just what it meant to have a captive audience. For one reason or another, rationally or not, PC is not considered a viable option for many consumers. If they want to play games, they feel they have to on consoles, and so they're eat pretty much whatever shit is shoveled their way as long as it doesn't outweight their desire to just play games. This is most easily accomplished in chunks. Chunks of money for the paid online, chunks of time for installs, etc.

Just like microtransactions and lootboxes, they'll keep on pushing it as far as they can to see just how much pointless spending they can squeeze out of their consumer base.
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>>399264415
No one was talking about the Switch. Why are you bringing up all of a sudden?
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>>399264680
>No one was talking about the Switch.
Have you read the title of this thread or are you illiterate?
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>>399264415
Wouldn’t the Switch successor just be another Switch? I don’t see Nintendo making another home console again and will just stick withe Switch model from now on?
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>>399264734
The title of the thread still has no bearing on the specific reply chain you replied to, nor the general discussion of the thread.
Sony basically just said that the Switch is successful, therefore just like they reported the last time, they're planning to go deep into games as a service.
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>>399264945
>Wouldn’t the Switch successor just be another Switch?
probably. It still won't have BC for Switch games though.
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>>399264415
You're right of course. But that had absolutely nothing to do with the conversation.
Way to derail everything with your console warrior crap.
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>>399265019
The GBC was BC to the GB, the GBA was BC to the GBC and GB, DS was BC to the GBA and the 3DS to the DS, why wouldn’t the Switch 2 be BC to the Switch?
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>>399265192
>m-muh traditions!!!!!
Traditions don't mean shit. It was a tradition that every home console had an exclusive 3D Zelda, but not anymore.
Like Sony, Nintendo has figured out that they will get more money from selling full-priced last-gen remasters than they will from including BC. So it's not happening again.
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>>399265192
>why wouldn’t the Switch 2 be BC to the Switch?
Because it makes less money and is a hurdle to overcome engineering wise.
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>>399265312
So basically this is your dumbass assumption and in reality you really don’t know if the Switch 2 will be BC to the original Switch? There’s a reason Switch isn’t BC to the Wii U because the Switch has only one screen.
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>>399247225
sauce?
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>>399265429
But if the Switch 2’s architecture isn’t that different from the Switch’s what makes you think it won’t be BC?
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>>399265563
>So basically this is your dumbass assumption
Your baseless conjecture has just as much support as mine does. You can't prove they will have BC.
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>>399240936
Gaming is a waste of money at this point. Better buy a PC and pirate anything you want
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When the hell is Sony Entertainment going to breakway from the failtrain that is Sony Music and Sony Shitty Movies?
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>>399265716
Remasters.
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>>399265750
I’m not that other guy you were posting to, I just see the Switch 2 not having BC to the Switch as not really making much sense unless they both have completely different architectures and designs.
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>>399265795
sony music is doing well thanks to fate/grand order
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>>399265843
But that’s Sony.
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>>399265932
If they make Switch 2 have BC with Switch that means they'll be forced to keep using outdated controllers like joycons. It isn't happening
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>>399266015
It's also Nintendo.
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>>399266017
Dude they already stated that the Switch is the future. Do you honestly believe we’re ever getting another home console from them after the failure that was the Wii U? Even Nintendo realized their handheld consoles sale far better.
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>>399266181
they'll make more handhelds in the future but they aren't going to be compatible with Switch games.
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>>399266103
See>>399265563
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>>399266232
Uh huh, good to know Mr. so-called insider.
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>>399266263
Nintendo has realized they get more money from remasters than they do from including BC. The writing is on the wall plain to see but if you want to stick your head in the sand and ignore it then whatever I guess
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>>399241261
I have no idea why anyone would think a vita 2 is gonna happen after the catastrophe of the vita.
Even sony wants you to forget the vita ever happened.
It sold like ass and its games sell like ass, only ultra niche games have been put on it for the last number of years for the few loyal costumers and even those have been coming out on the pc eliminating the only reason to own a vita, and now those games are starting to come out on the switch.

Even if they put out another portable, it would have to compete with the extremely hot switch and be DoA, and sony knows this, they'd have to be the dumbest fucking people on the planet to do this.
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>>399247225
sauce pls
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>>399266361
So you’re still going to ignore the fact that the only reason the Switch is getting ports is because the Switch and Wii U have completely different architectures?
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>outsold by a 4 year old console in 2017
>success
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>>399266539
>the only reason the Switch is getting ports is because the Switch and Wii U have completely different architectures?
It's hilarious that you believe that
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>>399266447
don't remember, sorry. I read a lot of stuff every day.
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>>399266638
Oh, so I can play Wii U games that need the second screen on the Switch, well that’s news to me.
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There is literally no excuse for owning a gaming device other than a PC and a Nintendo Switch.
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>>399266704
no problem anon
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>>399266816
They won't do BC anymore because there's more money in last-gen remasters.
>b-b-but they always had BC!!!!
yeah and they never had paid online either. "muh traditions" doesn't mean SHIT.
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>Company is paying attention to what their main competitor is doing
>This is bad somehow
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>>399266830
sorry, I like JRPGs and those are on PS4.
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>>399266904
I’m so glad you’re an industry expert.
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>>399240186
1. I'd be fine with a sony switch ripoff as long as it had decent original games that were able to be played offline
2. I might really consider buying one if it gets the new games that are also coming to ps4 and sony drops the paid online price to match nintendo's
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>>399267067
hilarious coming from the guy saying they'll definitely for sure totally have BC.
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>>399265563
The Wii U was getting remasters too though.
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>>399266381
The Swirch happened after the Wii U was a catastrophic failure and now its a huge success. All it takes is not fucking up super hard at launch (like Xbone, Wii U, and Vita did) and a decent financial push
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>>399267145
All you need to do is look at their history and interviews to know what’s pretty much going to happen. It’s really not hard to do this.
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>>399267287
>All you need to do is look at their history and interviews
go ahead and show me the interview where they said their next system will have BC.
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>>399267169
The Wii U was only BC to the Wii though and Zelda TP was one of the GCN’s last games even though it launched on the Wii as well.
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>>399267430
>I-IT WAS A GC GAME!!! IT'S OKAY WHEN IT'S TWO GENS OLD!!!!
getting real sick of this excuse.
TP was advertised primarily as a Wii game, it's the version Nintendo considered definitive until TPHD. This excuse just reeks of desperation to avoid being wrong
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>>399267145
hilarious coming from the guy saying they'll definitely for sure totally not have BC.
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>>399242507
>Clapsitan
That cancerous nation deserves to burn anyway.
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>>399267423
Read up on the Iwata interviews for the Switch when it was known as the NX stating they were moving to the Switch model. How about instead of stating your beliefs as fact you post an interview of Nintendo stating they’re done with BC and moving on to remasters.
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>>399240186
How are they gonna make me pay if I don't want to? Hmm... ?
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>>399241965
But Dragon Quest Builders 2 is coming out for it soon lol
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>>399267549
>Definitive
>flipped
Yeah, that’s not definitive.
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>>399267430
It's the Wii version they remastered though.
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>>399240936
uh literally all of that applies to the switch, and then some, like physical dlc, needing to re-buy 30 year old games and consoles that could just ne emulated, needing to buy a normal non gimmicky controller, etc etc.
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>>399255125
there will be a Spitoon2 bundle uwu
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>>399267869
that's just your opinion though, not Nintendo's
>>399267775
>you post an interview of Nintendo stating they’re done with BC and moving on to remasters.
Yeah they're not going to just come right out and say they plan on screwing their customers, that's bad PR.
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>>399248119
It's because the Xbox runs the same Architect in all 3 of their systems and doesn't go for some extra unneeded hardware changes.

There's no BC for PS4 because it doesn't have the Cell Processor and Switch doesn't use Disc anymore
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>>399243531
Sony puts out a console at a competitive price given the hardware involved while Nintendo profits greatly off their overpriced garbage. If anything graphs like these should make it clear just how fucking greedy and cancerous Nintendo are as a company.
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>>399267959
They also seemed to flip it back to what it was on the GameCube since Link was once again left-handed.
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>>399268084
kek
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>>399247313
>bbbut wiiu had bc

well so did ps2 and ps3 at some point. Irrelevant since we're talking CURRENT consoles.
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>>399268008
And what if the Switch 2 uses similar cartridges to the Switch or has a slot for the Switch cartridge?
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>>399268275
what if it doesn't?
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>>399267016
Like what? Persona 5? It's a mediocre jrpg that you can play on both PS3 and PC.
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>>399268562
What if it does?
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>>399268081
the xbox, xbox 360, and xbox one all have a different cpu architecture though
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>>399243757
Nintendo profits entirely from its branding and braindead fanbase which gobbles up anything they shit out. They make money out of manipulating emotions while pushing more and more highly profitable anti-consumer practices. Their first party titles are not dominant, this is merely an illusion they create since they have no true third party support. EA shits out games which completely dominant anything Nintendo shits out, for example.
The business strategy Nintendo depends on is entirely marketing based because they games are medicore and would bomb without a mario or zelda sticker on it and their hardware is complete fucking dogshit which only gets a pass because of the Nintendo name, supported by fanboys.
It is really only a matter of time because once these shit eating fanboys start to die out, Nintendo as a video game company is fucked.
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>>399268687
>and PC.
that's like saying you can play BOTW on PC. No one likes shitty emulation except PCniggers who can't afford a console
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>>399266830
super mario oddysey is the only switch exclusive and is overrated as fuck
PC is the only platform than you need
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>>399268901
But you can play BOTW on PC. I like my Wii U but the switch ports and emulation have made it increasingly worthless.

>>399269076
Hello sonnyger
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>>399269208
i don't have sony consoles
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>>399251569
Worse, they are releasing last gen multiplat portable downgrades for full price and half the features.
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>>399269352
Of course so(n)yboy
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>>399251569
That’s why I’m waiting until 2019 to get one.
2D Metroid
2D Mario
Pokemon
A good amount of first party games
A revision with better battery and possibly more graphical strength like the DSi and New 3DS.
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>>399253457
Nintendo fucks over their userbase worse than Nexon. You Nintendo fanboys are completely oblivious to reality, I swear.
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>>399255104
Nintendo fans on /v/ are and this board is basically NintendoGaf. There are handfuls of Switch marketing threads every 24 hours.
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Are there really this many assmad Nintendo fanboys on /v/?
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>>399255903
They have less and worse game than any other platform aside from the Xbox 1, for fuck sake. You little fucking cretins have been trying to meme people into thinking Skyrim on the Switch isn't hot garbage wrapped up in desperation, that how few actual games the Switch has.

/v/ would improve dramatically if Nintendo threads were moved to /toy/.
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>>399270708
kek this salt
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>>399270708
Well, not really. The Wii U had better games than the PS4 and the Switch is already getting great games faster than the ps4
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>>399271129
>The Wii U had better games than the PS4
As someone who owns both, no it does not.
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>>399270342
>this board is basically NintendoGaf
Is there a more retarded statement that Sonyggors like to use than this one?
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>>399271212
depends if you have a PC already or not
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>>399271323
I do, and I still prefer the PS4's library. I prefer japanese games overall though so that's probably why.
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>>399271212
It does. Name better games than XCX, Donkey Dong and W101 on the PS4.
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>>399271401
Persona 5, Bloodborne, Odin Sphere Leifthrasir
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>>399271476
>Persona 5
No. Mediocre gameplay coupled with the same story in P4 and P3, stretched over way too many hours. Also playable on PS3.

>Bloodborne
Maybe, I've yet to play it

>Odin Sphere
Fuck no. I love the story but the gameplay is way too repetitive holy fuck. Also on Vita.
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>>399271751
why did you ask me to list games if you were just going to dismiss them with a greentext list of your opinions?
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>>399271925
>Name better games
>Only name 1 who fit the criteria
>I didn't even greentext my opinion
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>>399251569
I just need them to announce virtual console that'll give me enough entertainment for so long.
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>>399272120
>mediocre gameplay isn't an opinion
Also I see Nintenbros posting everyday about how XCX, W101, Bayo 2, DKTF, etc should come to Switch so why do you get to those games as examples?
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>>399259627
It could, via homebrew.
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>>399244231
>I have money so it's ok to be nickle and dimed for basic features
pathetic
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>>399272295
Because they aren't on switch yet. I don't think they even have been announced for the switch.

>mediocre gameplay isn't an opinion
Depend for what. Persona's gameplay doesn't really offer anything good. You do have the demon fusion but SMT just do it better. The dungeons are also way too simple.
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>>399271476
>Persona 5
PS3 game.
>Bloodborne
This game is cool.
>Odin Sphere Leifthrasir
PS3 remake of a PS2 game.

The PS3 was on the market and supported for almost a full decade. Surely you've got one.
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>>399273107
>it's literally only okay to buy multiplats when you buy them on Nintendo systems
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>>399241965

>Switch is going to be DOA! Wii U 2.0!
>OK, so the launch was good, but just wait until the hype dies off! Switch will be dead and buried before the summer is over!
>OK, the Switch is outselling everything in Japan and the US, but it will still never get third party support!
>OK, it has both Japanese and western third party support, but it will never win Black Friday and Cyber Monday with the Xbox One being $50 off and the PS4 being $100 off!

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/11/30/nintendo-switch-was-reportedly-black-friday-and-cyber-mondays-best-selling-product

ENDLESS /v/ SALT
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>>399240186
>hurr durr Sony doesn't care about Switch
I love it
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>>399273218
It's always ok to buy multiplats. But they don't increase the purchase value of a system much of anything.
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>>399273636
so why do I always see Nintendo bois using multiplats to shill Switch?
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>>399273752
You do?
That said the Switch is a unique system relatively speaking that offers portable versions of the same games. Which sets the Switch versions apart for better or worse.

But everyone knows it's the exclusives that really matters. That has always been the case.




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