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Is modding REALLY a good thing?
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Yes, the example in the picture is stupid, most games aren't ''art''. I don't see why it would be a bad thing for some people to modify their game as they want.
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Depends
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Yes, you stupid console pleb.
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>>403173678
whats that first mod?
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>>403173413
I fucking loved Skyfall
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>>403173678
>there are 2 types of mods
>mods I like
>mods I don't like
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>>403173413
waifufags always ruin everything
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>>403173772
Ancient Aliens
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>>403173772
Proceed to zdoom forum. There shit-ton of such mods.
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>>403173413
Yes. And if you don't like it, just don't mod your game. If you say otherwise you're a mad console babby or too stupid to install mods.
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>>403173678
The "bad" mods showcase Skyrim mods, and say that the games who have bad mods are bad bases, but some of the best mods in existence used Skyrim as its base

Cheap try at making a meme
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>>403173413
>Is modding REALLY a good thing?
How do you think Bethesda survie year after year after year. It has been 7 years and Skyrim is still being played. Why? Mods. Bethesda will take you to a point in the game on purpose then leave you high and dry. The only way to play it after you have done everything and anything is mods.
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I rarely mod my games anymore, but why would it be bad in anyway? It's a completely personal decision made by the user. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything.

Oh, right, I'm on 4chan
>i-if *I* don't like it, nobody should do it!
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>>403173413
>artist
lmao
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>>403173413
>Artists version
>Bland, boring, uninspiring and worst of all no cute underaged girls
>Mod community
More atmosphere, creative and full of cute underaged girls
How can anybody unironically hate the bottom one?
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>>403173991

hey cool thanks bud

good thing i have this image handy
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>>403174154
This is why I come to 4chan
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>>403173413
It makes games that would otherwise be unplayable tolerable, so yes.
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Why is this even an argument? If you don't like the mods, just don't download them.
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Mods are fucking based, adds more content to the base game, can improve/change existing content and potentially add a few hours of playtime even replayability.
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>>403173413
Regardless, it's beyond the abilities of average kid with lot of free time to create assets for modern games. Thus, modern modding is either copypasting stolen content or making balance tweaks.
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>>403174154
>That one dick has better physics than the entirety of Skyrim
Now this is podracing
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>>403173413
>Is having choices and creative freedom REALLY a good thing?
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>>403173413
Yeah
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>implying video games have an author

lmao
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>>403173413
>artist's vision
10 hours played
>mod community with anime tiddy
10000 hours played
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>>403173413
modding is a good thing, but mods do not make a game good or bad
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>>403174192
I don't care about the bait aspect of this post I will just explain why it's awful. Anime mods are pretty much always shit because 3D anime models look atrocious without the right lighting and even 3D anime games fuck up the lighting in most cases so in a game where such a thing wasn't even intended it looks fucking horrible.
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>>403174154
Back to tesg with you, fag
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>>403173413
Mods are a great thing, only people who view it negatively are sour grapes.
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>Stuck on a Bethesda game on Pc.
>Mods to by pass anything you are stuck on.
>Dead Money disable beeping collars for example.
>Everything is fine and still get achievements.
>Playing bethesda game on console
>Add mod.
>NO ACHIEVEMENTS . GO FUCK YOURSELF.

Thanks. I understand I really do why achievements are blocked. It's a shame tho because you could combine achievements with mods. But I guess if you do then mod developers could take away the challenge of achievements from gaming companies and put them on an even level in a way.
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>>403173413
>game devs
>artist's
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>>403174154
>Dick bouncing off the legs left and right.
>It's hypnotizing
>Can take my eyes off it.........
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>>403173413
complete overhaul mods are good
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>>403173413
Skyrim is one example where every quest mod is better than almost all the quests in the main game.
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>>403173413
The bottom half of that image is definitely an improvement
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>>403174154
Someone post this on the /tesg? general and see if they actually come back with the mod for it. Please do it.
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>>403175032
>quest mod is better than almost all the quests in the main game.
As I'm about to stop Skyrim for getting sick of it. But what quests in Skyrim? Seriously. There is barely any quests.
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>>403173413
I think the "if you cannot mod games, it isn't worth playing" mentality is dumb, but modding can be a good thing
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>>403174619
Anon, you sound retarded just because you're missing the definition of a mod, if confused see pic.
Calm your autism, we all can calm our autism when it spikes.
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>>403175135
schlongs of skyrim. lurk moar newfag
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>>403174154
This is hypnotic
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I only care about technical mods - improved performance, better textures, control options and fixes etc
OC Donut content can fuck right off
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>>403175659
You must be a pro at Dick Modding them if you knew it straight away.
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>>403175135
https://www.loverslab.com/topic/50454-floppysos/
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>>403175395
Exactly, they are all shit.
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>>403173413
Only mods I ever felt like I was missing out on were ones that increased the frame rate or resolution. Nude mods are the absolute bottom of the trash barrel.
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>>403175623
I don't know if takes some kind of talent or just a sub 80 IQ to make such a post.
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what kind of mods does /v/ like?
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>>403173678
>stop having fun
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It must be a good thing when developers are stealing modders content.
https://www.geek.com/games/fallout-4-autumn-leaves-controversy-raises-a-dilemma-for-mod-makers-1662029/
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Still playing Oblivion because mods.
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>>403173678
fuck you macho man dragons was hilarious
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>>403173413

I'm playing OGSE (Old Good Stalker Evolution, an extended mod for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. that expands on the story). The added features are absolutely insane, from new weapons to fuckton of good quests and tons of content.

I'd definitely recommend it to people who played the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games and are looking for more. Fair warning though, better download the game form moddb, the yandex version has a bitcoin virus hidden as an exe file.
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Only time when mods are bad is when people jump into the game the first time and installing a bunch of mods. Play it vanilla first, then modify it.
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>>403173413
yeah
1st picture is boring
2nd picture is fun
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>>403176651
Do performance mods count as non vanilla? As in mods that make the game actually playable because the base broken glitches too much.
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>>403173413
Is freedom REALLY a good thing?
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>>403176367
send me your bakuon folder, thanks
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>>403176483
Speakinf Beth and FO, anyone have that screenshot of a writer trying to keep up with checking fan wiki's?
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>>403173413
Stop cherrypicking the single worst modding community as you're argument, bethesda modders are untalented hacks.
Kuso consolefag.
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>>403176367
>tfw no baiku girl gf
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>>403174154
>plebs who cant into physics applauding testicles clipping into thighs while the dick behaves like its bouncing off solid steel bars rather than colliding with soft tissue.
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Fall From Heaven 2 for Civilization IV was some of the best times I've had playing video games
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i like mods
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>>403176997
>you're argument
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>>403173413
no, modifying a game transforms it into a non-canon version of it, so its automatically invalid and discarded
i dont care if you are having fun, i still dont like tampering with games
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>>403177080
Write your own hdt.xml file if the way a dick moves bothers you that much
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>>403176536
Oblivion best TES
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>>403174154
IS THAT FUCKING NIPPLE????????
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>>403177158
>skyrimfags trying to give their horses vaginas
>when doom already has caco backpussy
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>>403173413
>Artist's vision

Who the fuck cares about that shit?
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>>403177443
This. the artist and his ego can go fuck themselves
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>>403173413
>Mod community
>Is not filled with FOTM memes and youtube poop tier faces
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>>403173413
Can't you just choose the good mods?
Either way beauty is in the eye of the beholder, any work's meaning and nuance can be lost in the interpretation of the consumer
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>>403173413
AAA shills like you need to fuck off OP.
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>>403173413
yes
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>>403177175
>i still dont like tampering with games
So lets say someone releases a "mod" that fixes every single bug in a game, and even some major game breaking ones. The original devs don't support the game anymore, so this mod is a godsend.
However its "tampering" with the game as its not done by the official dev team. So therefore you wouldn't download it, would you?
Keep in mind this is all hypothetical.
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>FFXV mods
My dick and my hopes can't wait
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>>403173678
>Macho Man in skyrim
>bad
we know the faggot behind this post
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>>403176869
performance mods or hd texture mods are fine, things that change the gameplay are the things you need to wait for
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>is this optional free content a bad thing
???
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>>403175341
GTA4 fags btfo!
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In the case of Skyrim or Minecraft, modding is an absolute essential for the game to be even relevant, as the people behind those games clearly didn't even know what they were doing.
Artist's vision doesn't always apply.
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>>403173413
As long as it's not put of place in the games world, I enjoy mods. I wouldn't want to be running around with a M16 in skyrim, or having anime girl companions in fallout.
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>>403176249
>what kind of mods does /v/ like?
3 words. Guns and Armour.
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>>403178182
What did you say you dumb fuck?
If you bought the game you can do whatever you want with it. Artist's vision be damned.
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>>403173413

Modding is definitely a good thing, but that doesn't mean all mods are good.

Some mods add significant depth to the base game's mechanics. Magna Mundi for EU3, the Floris Mod Pack for Mount & Blade, Europa Barbarorum for Rome: Total War, Project Nevada for Fallout: New Vegas, etc. Those are all mods that really increase the depth and replayability of their base games.

Other mods fix problems in the base game. DSFix and DSMFix for Dark Souls on PC, Crash Fixes for Skyrim, the mod that fixed Nier Automata on PC, and tons of others. I've been using walking and combat speed mods in Darkest Dungeon, which just speed the game up without changing any balance or graphics.

Some mods simply improve the graphics of a game, while maintaining the existing aesthetic style.

Yes, there are tons of shitty mods that break immersion by sexualizing everything, giving the player godlike power, or are otherwise just shit. Accept that some people are just shit, and only use the worthwhile mods (or no mods at all, if that's your preference).
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>>403177175
What about mods that restore cut content?
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>>403178524
sorry friend, you're right about the artist's vision
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>>403178182
>people behind those games clearly didn't even know what they were doing.
Dude Bethesda do. They make a game with stable base. Let the player get so far. Then purposly make you want to do more. Then they offer mods that if it is as good as it is. Will take the ideas and add it into a new game very sneaky so it doesn't effect copyright. Bethesda know what they are doing.
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>>403174108
What's this gif from?
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Modding fo4 wasted so much time

Now that I look back I didnt know what I was thinking. Its one of those obsessions that latch onto you when youre depressed as fuck. But Id spend all my time refreshing nexus, tinkering the files, making sure they worked, playing for a few hours or so, then id get too many mods and consider the game 'too different,' so id just start a new save. You can probably guess I never got very far in the game. I felt like an idiot. 'Is this what games are really for' was the question bugging my mind. I thought with this level of dedication I might as well learn something I can actually use to produce something in society like repairing cars or cabinet making. But no, I am not even making mods. I am lapping up other peoples mods - other peoples vision of what the game SHOULD be like - and tossing a bunch of them together making some nasty gutter water soup of a game. And in the end the satisfaction is my own and its just 'Heh! I sure am good at picking mods. My game runs so good now.' What a clown show.

These things - these strange hobbies on the outlier that not many people know of - they are fleeting.

Modding is pure autism. Forget being normal if you enjoy modding.
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>>403178660
>Fallout: New Vegas
God the memories of modding that game. Might have to get back into it.
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Sometimes artist's vision is shit
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>>403173413
This doesn't apply to games without artistic vision to begin with. Such as Skyrim.
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>>403179353
Go back to /a/.
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>improved graphics mod
>its just bloom and overly saturated to the max
>has faggy "upgrades" like lens flares that you cant have the option to disable
>EVERYTHING IS FUCKING B L U R R Y
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>>403173413
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the artist's vision is never fulfilled, even the best games like new vegas or dark souls are left unfinished
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>>403179353
What? Before pic looks much better. Why would they intentionally make it blurry?
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>>403179353
The After is supposed to look worse correct?
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>>403173413
why your image is a bad thing?
if you want your artist vision, play vanilla, if you want anime tiddies install a mod
everyone happy
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>>403179714
It's the typical modern artist vision.
>DOF, BLOOM, CHROMATIC ABERRATION, LENS FLARE AND FILM GRAIN
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>>403177443
This
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>>403179046
elite yankee saburo
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>>403173413
For fuck's sake, stop giving me choice! What sort of gaylord wants to ability to choose between original and modded game! It's fucking stupid, and I hate stupid things! All games should be unable to be modded! And there shouldn't be options too! I want everyone to have same sensivity or control scheme!
Down with choice! Down with choice! Down with choice! Come on, /v/, all together! Down with choice!
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who the fuck cares?
if don't like mods so i just don't use them, nobody is forcing you to use them if you dont want it.
Fucking retard.
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Isn't this a better comparison?
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>>403179656
>mods that just update the ingame textures to real life companies
I WANTED HD RETEXTURES WITH HIGHER QUALITY GRAPHICS, NOT SHITTY REAL LIFE ADS SHOVED IN, FUCK RIGHT OFF!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sctUtDoFLms
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>>403173678
>mods must be serious and must strictly adhere to lore/developer standards
Geek.
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>>403173413
While animu mods are fucking stupid, mods often fix actual game mechanics as well, and in some cases fix the game as a result. Oblivions shit level scaling system being modded into something passable is a good example.
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>>403173413
>artist vision
>desaturated ugly garbage with no content
>mod community
>colorful with additional content and customized elements to suit a player

Modding really is a good thing.
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>>403179353
>right
>generic 2010s anime post processing
>left
>interesting and detailed
hmmmmm
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>>403179714
"Artists" are braindead monkeys.
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>>403180906
>Down with choice! Down with choice! Down with choice! Come on, /v/, all together! Down with choice!
No.
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>>403173413
>game creators
>artists
lol
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>>403174108
Holy shit, I just found out Yakuza use actual people face for a lot of its character. That is pretty awesome.
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>>403179353
>perspective is fucking broken because muh generic front shot of character despite background not fitting
Both are shit
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>>403177175
>non-canon
John Carmack fucking who, am i right?
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>>403181049
modding community needs to have more lush and vibrant
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>>403173413
Would have been subtle and funnier with just the oversaturation and horrible depth of field.
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>>403173413
Yes because the base game is the base game, that's it. With mods you can pick and choose what you want. Don't want all the animu? Go check the billions of other mods that aren't animu.
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>>403173413
Modding is shit.
And I say that as a pc owner.
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>>403173413
Yes, you actual retard.
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>>403181049
>lore-friendly classic shotgun
Okay, I laughed.
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>>403173413
If I don't want to look at a dull, boring peice of shit but I find the gameplay fun you bet I'm going to do whatever necessary to unfuck your game, be it using reshade, enb, mods or fucking cheat engine. Especially if you're using fucking filters like the shit they pulled in deus ex human revolution. PISS YELLOW EVERYWHERE WOOOO
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>if you mod a game, you hate the game
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>>403173413
>Artist's vision
give me one reason why I should give a shit
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>>403173678
Everything about this is wrong.
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>>403183856
Because if you immerse yourself in a good game with artistic vision, instead of trying to turn it into or complaining that it isn't what you already like, you might find it an interesting or thought-provoking experience.
THEN you mod the cute girls in on the second playthrough.
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IS mOddiNg REALLY a gOod thIng?
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>>403184131
>thought-provoking experience.
You don't just use this combination of words and expect to be taken seriously
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>>403173413
I fail to see a good example of your pic
Games that get sex/waifu mods are usually sandbox-y games with a character creation, not those with some artistic vibe (and I'm already making stretches by considering games as artistic)
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>>403185280
Sex mods can also be rare at times, because it's hard to make them look appealing and not laughable, which rarely happens.
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>>403184131
>thought-provoking experience.
Nigger do you honestly think people play games like that here? Or play games at all?
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>>403185478
But thought provoking games like opus magnum and factorio are very popular here, there were shitloads of threads.
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>>403177158

CUTE
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>>403186078
>opus magnum
>thought provoking
>but encourages modding and custom puzzles
Are you trying to sabotage your own argument?
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>>403186078
>thought provoking
>factorio
>opus magnum
Nigger those are mechanically intensive games that tickle that part of your brain that likes to look for patterns and optimize shit. Literally no higher thought about a mental spreadsheet of autism.
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>>403186078
>factorio
Going to assume you're attempting to push the argument that modsRbad
https://mods.factorio.com/
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>>403173413
>implying the types of games that get modded have any form of "artistic vision."
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>>403186431
>>403186745
You play vanilla first though, not mods first.
The mods only make it better.

>>403186510
>only 82 hours
one game takes that long
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>>403186997
Not if you're starting out, first game took me 60-ish hours, played through again in 8 hours and the change is fucking around with buddies in multiplayer.

>The mods only make it better
So mods are good then, glad we're in agreement.
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most racing sims are so light on content that they rely on mods to make them good
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>>201638298
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>>403173413
How does what one guy does with his copy of the game alter anyone else's experience playing with their own copy of the game?
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Yes, no exceptions since it's always optional.
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>>403173413
Whatever that is I'd play the fuck outta the modded version but only if there was proper dialogue between grandpa and the cute anime girls
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>>403185478
>"Ooga booga everypne is retard XD"

*tips*
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>>403187783
>mfw all their dlc is just formatted as a mod, can be downloaded, opened, unfucked and activated like one
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>>403187904
Now I want to play this game again.
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>>403177847
that would be a nice exception that rarely occurs
I use the full community fix for SoC, for example
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>>403188292
I even have a Solstheim achievement on Steam without owning Dragonborn DLC.
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>>403188210
Nobody plays videogames here.
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>>403188346
If that's what I think it is then it is dead
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>>403178731
I would only accept that if the cut content was finished by the original team, not by fans
that never ever happens though, cut content is usually cut because its either unfinished or discarded
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>>403188406
That's how it goes. I got New Vegas but pirated the DLC and freely played through them all with no problems.
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>playing game overhaul/conversion mod
>its fun
total conversions and overhauls are the best mods
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>>403182348
What game?
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>>403173413
only literal retards mod their games/use mods/encourage modding.
I'm sorry to tell you this.
a developer made a game, that's it. in a worst case scenario you offer feedback to the dev so they can fix their shit, and this is strictly balancing stuff, glitch solving etc. never to modify character models, color schemes or anything related to that OR gameplay mechanics.
THAT'S THE GAME. period.
let's take dawn of war 3 for example. excellent music, fairly less-cartoonish take on the 40k universe in cutscenes and shit, absolutely abhorent visual style in the actual game and a terrible continuation of what dawn of war 1 and 2 were gameplay wise.
do I try to mod that shit and change the visuals and gameplay? no. fuck them. they failed to produce a game, there's no changing it because the core of it is broken.
you know why? because of the lead director's decissions to create the game in that style. if you don't like a game that's it. if you mod it, you're not longer playing the game you want to play, you're creating a cheap knockoff. and most mods are done by absolute retards and amateurs with no sense of style or decency.
>BUT MUH SKYRIM IS SO MUCH COOLER WITH LE MODS HAHA CONSOLE PLEB xD xD
it's a shit game from the start. get over it. either play something else or bitch at the dev so they do better next time.
most modding babbies don't even play the actual game anymore, they just fap about at tit mods or MUH TEXTURES.
>tl;dr stop being autismos. modding is for retards.
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>>403188516
It's not what you think.
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>>403189261
t,Todd Howard
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No, it's way over hyped for how little you actually get in the end, even using the very best. No modding capabilities would ever replace having an actually good base game.
The only worthy mods are the fan patches and maybe some graphics updates for the older games, but even that is questionable.
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>>403189253
Dragon's Dogma
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>>403189261
Dawn of War 2's modding community is the only reason it's still played at a competitive level and made the multiplayer a hundred times better after Relic abandoned it once THQ went under. This post is fucking retarded
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>>403189557
maybe try reading next time you fucking spaz
it's fine if you tinker with the balance, but at the end of the day you're not playing the game the developer made, you're playing your mental gymnastics version of it. might as well make your own game if you don't like what other people make.
oh wait. you can't. because other than downloading LE TEXTURES AND LE BALANCE FIX MOD v2.3 xD and clicking install you can't do jack shit. faggot.
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>>403189453
>No modding capabilities would ever replace having an actually good base game.
Again, why does every arguement on this subject fall under "mod vs game"?
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>>403173869

It's my go-to movie to show off a new media setup. Movie is goddamn gorgeous.
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>>403189261
Not modding means that you're a brainlet my man, how do you explain shit like sawyer supporting NV mods eh fag?
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>>403187783
Joke's on you Todd, I have been pirating every single one of your games since Oblivion.
The game may have been rigged, but in my favor.
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>>403189812
Too bad the developer's vision is an unbalanced mess while the modded version is actively played by the people who play the game.
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>>403175341

>average 5 fps
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>>403189812
Except they didn't just tinker with the balance you enormous retard. They added an entirely new faction, modeled and added new units to existing factions and community contributors have added lots of new maps to the existing map pool, one of which is arguably the most played and casted maps in the game. Try not licking windows in your spare time before you try to post again, sperg
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>>403173413
Mods are OBJECTIVELY good for a bunch of pretty obvious reasons like prolonging a game's life cycle or being a part of a big healthy community.
The thing is, it's up to you to filter all the garbage that comes out of the gaping mouth of modding. Like 97% of mods is the most inept, tone-deaf and tastless shit you'll ever see, but the other 3% consist of incredible shit that allows you to run older games on newer hardware, destroys bugs, recovers cut content, rebalances broken RPG systems (again, it's up to you to filter which are good and which are bad).

I remember trying to play San Andreas a year ago or something, and these fucking cunts not only created a neat package of mods that for the cost of one click allows you to make your game understand wide screen, make it stable and bug free, but also reintroduces the visual effects from FUCKING PS2 which were unfortunately cut from the original PC version of San Andreas due to Rockstar's ineptness with PC ports.

So yeah, modding is a blessing, but you need to invest your own time to enjoy it to the fullest potential
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>>403190021
>me and 10 other guys are loving this abomination of a game, we're having fun therefore it's better than what they wanted to make
>I saw a movie with my friends and I think I know how we can make it better, lemme just re-film some scenes and completely change the movie so it fits my mental image of what it should be
>>403190139
>remember that hamburger we all liked from the store across the street? it's great and all but I bought it, took it home and added some ice cream on it, now me and my friends like it better so therefore it's better lol fuck that guy who makes the burger, what does he know amirite xD
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>>403190304
>food analogies
As if your retardation couldn't run any deeper, Jesus Christ
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>>403190304
>food analogy
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http://www.moddb.com/mods/new-vegas-weapons-fallout-4-edition

Yes
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>>403173413
Anime makes everything better.
Prove me wrong, protip: you can't
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>>403190381
I'm sorry you're this mad at facts friendo
at the end of the day, anyone who mods games or is part of the modding comunity is a mouthbreathing retard
>f-f-fuck y-you haha f-food analogies l-lol what a retard haha
>I'm much more sophisticated than that, m'lady
>>403190414
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>>403190304
>implying the guy who made the burger gives a fuck what you do with it as long as you paid

How to spot a faggot who never worked a day of his life even in an industry as basic as food
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>>403173878
How did you interpret that from his post? Why are you such a fucking bitch?
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>>403190304
>food analogy
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>>403190304
>food analogy
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question here for lewd modders, once you submit to your urge to masturbate do you close the game?
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>>403189086
Have you heard of this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjkU7Hx8a1E
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Oh hey a modding thread, cool. I actually mod a game called Kenshi. I also am a fan of putting myself under harsh criticism, because even the most vitriolic insults may have a grain of truth behind them which I can use to further refine my work. Anyway here's my mods feel free to tell me what you think of them.

http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=1172950799
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>>403190539
The only mouthbreathing retard in the discussion is you, friendo.
>paragraphs of autistic screeching about something completely inconsequential and something nobody's forcing you to do
>fucking food analogies
>adding stupid stuttering, m'lady and xD because you can't argue any point directly
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>>403189557
>>403189916
>>403190021
>>403190139
>>403190381
>>403190414
>>403190575
>>403190746
look at these literal children absolutely seething because they get called out on their shittier """""hobby"""""
ahahahahahahhahaha
I'm loving every second of your absolute butthurt
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>>403190839
He's a troll, you don't feed the troll
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>>403190817
Nice one anon.

I make mods too, but for a different game.
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>developers vision is to purposley leave the game unfinished with less content
>modder adds inifnite heaven which kinda improves the game and makes it less baroon with more troops and enemies use more equipment
if only there was a level editor
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>>403190839
I don't need to argue anything captain retard lmao
I'm stating facts. the only ones that need to argument anything are you retards. tell me how modding is not shitting on what someone else made because you're too fucking stupid to make anything worthwhile yourselves.
also, tell me, how am I wrong in what I say that when you mod a game you're no longer playing the game as it was intended, mm?
I have only stated facts, and all of you are absolutely buttblasted for it.
go ahead my lads
but just know this
you are objectively wrong if your only argument for modding is BUT IT MAKES THE GAME BETTER
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>>403191163
FUCK OFF /biz/C*CK
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>>403191215
>I'm stating facts
>food analogies
Whatever you say, kiddo
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>>403191369
>literally resorting to haha food analogies amirite
>dodging the question and not argumenting even though earlier he was raging all over the place because I didn't offer arguments
never change /v/
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>>403191215
>also, tell me, how am I wrong in what I say that when you mod a game you're no longer playing the game as it was intende
You can still play the game in it's normal state, just by not playing with the mod?
A mod doesn't have to be better or worse than the main game, but rather be its own thing
The developers don't mind
Fans don't mind
And modders will still like the main game, while at the same time still using it as a base for some creations of theirs
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>>403173678
>getting this autistic over mods
I bet you think hacking is a serious problem
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>>403191215
>tell me how modding is not shitting on what someone else made because you're too fucking stupid to make anything worthwhile yourselves.

Game developers build their games on top of other people's engines because they're too fucking stupid to build it from the ground up themselves.

2/10 made me reply.
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>>403174154
Mods didn't ban me for this post, they only warned me, I was trying to get banned.
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>>403191561
level headed response anon, props for not taking the bait and getting autistic like these retards
>>403191923
lol, here's your (((you)))
you're too retarded for me to explain in how many ways you're wrong
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>>403173413
That's a sick rainbow sweater.
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>>403173650
A game isn't meant to be freely modified by the consumer any more than Marvel expects you to buy a spider man comic and draw in your own characters in every panel. What is released is, generally, the vision for the work
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Anyone else here played the Republic at War mod for Star Wars Empire at War? I've been playing it quite a bit lately.
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>>403191215
>one guy makes a product
>another one buys it and enjoys it the way he wants, including some modifications
>everyone is happy
>until some autist barges in screeching about author's "intent"

Literally nobody cares you collosal faggot
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>>403192275
Doom was.
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>>403192275
Tell that to John Carmack
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>>403190990
Oh really? What kind of mods do you make?
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>>403191486
Food analogies are the first bastion of retardation when trying to make a point
>original post is autistic screeching with arbitrary as fuck reasons as why you don't agree with modding
>"well here's an example of modding actively making a game better because the devs abandoned it completely"
>yeah well balance tweaks are fine, try reading my post!
>"except it's not just a balance tweak retard, but you wouldn't know that because you don't even know what the mod is"
>posts stupid as fuck food analogy that doesn't address anything
>>403192392
The best part the dev's 'intent' is touted as sacred ground by this sperg that can never be trespassed on by anybody, until it's a game he doesn't like
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>>403173413
Yes
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>>403179353
>weebshit
>>>/a/
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>>403173413
>Is modding REALLY a good thing?
In very select cases, in most cases OP is accurate.
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>>403189261
>t. Console Brainlet
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>>403192540
food analogies are just like any other analogies, it's a simple way to convey something to idiots like you who might find more complex or fleshed out explanations harder to grasp. I could have used a car in my analogy or a laptop, it's the same, I'm sorry your parents or your school didn't teach you that.
and I wasn't defending what they did to dawn of war 2, I was saying that the people playing the mod might as well stop saying they're playing dawn of war 2, because they're no longer playing that.
also, I said I didn't like dawn of war 3 but I'm not gonna go out of my way and try to """Fix it""". some people like it the way it is, some people don't. the developer made a game, that's final. if I don't like it, I don't play it. I can appreciate it for what it did right and I can hate it for what it did wrong (in my opinion, because these are all opinions and are not objective, what you might hate in a game someone might like, just how I hate the art style but others might like it), but I will never modify it, because then I'm not playing dawn of war 3, I'm playing a cheap ripoff of it.
and with the "dev's intent" as sacred ground. you can mod it, I have no problem with people modding their games, it literally does not affect me in any way. I'm just saying they're retards for doing it. like all children disatisfied with a product dreaming of ways they can make it better. either enjoy a product for what it is or don't and make something of your own.
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This mod made Witcher 3 combat bearable for me.
FUCK auto lock-on in any form.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ1959hkgMQ.
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>>403193221
Nice blog, American. You got Patreon?
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>>403193221
Here's another analogy for you, then

>buy a car
>that car model is notoriously known for having some issues
>but they can be fixed at a garage with some know-how
>some faggot barges in screeching about people being idiots for not appriciating the final product for what it is, the way designers intended it to be
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>>403194273
yes pls
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>>403193862
but your analogy is wrong
the games being modded have no issues, or if they have (i.e. balancing issues when concerning multiplayer for rts games or fps game and what not), they should be addressed by the developer if they accept feedback. if they don't, they can go fuck themselves along with their game. I'm not defending those types of developers.
most mods are bullshit, basically visual mods because someone doesn't like the art direction of the game, others are simply gamebreaking, comepletely turning the game into something different.
you don't buy a broken game from a developer knowing "you'll just fix it with mods". you don't buy the game. you don't give them money to put out a shit product. this is why a lot of developers are shit nowadays. back in the 90s they at least released a competent game and made small tweeks afterwards or with expansions. now they release a broken game and expect the people to give them feedback and mod their games to fix them, which is absolute bullshit. you have a QA team, you have people who know their shit. when you release a product it needs to be complete and to the expectations of the creative and developing lead.
so when you're modding a game to "make it better" you're doing everyone a diservice.
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>>403176367
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>>403194685
>most mods are bullshit, basically visual mods because someone doesn't like the art direction
>if someone does a paint job or puts a decal on a car, they're not using the car right

Yeah, no, you're a faggot
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>>403193221
No, food analogies are fucking stupid because a one-time consumable like food has absolutely no similarities in value, how they're used or the context within which they're used when compared to a product like a videogame. The analogy you made didn't even make sense in relation to how you replied to my post about that mod not being a simple balance tweak. Stop being a fucking moron and using retarded food analogies when trying to make a point
>I have no problem with people modding their games
>but I think anyone who does is a retard and I'm going to shitpost my opinion down your throat with stutterposting and xD whether you like it or not
>why do I think this way? uhhh because either enjoy a product for what it is or don't and make something of your own, this is absolute
>unless it's a game I don't like, then I don't give a fuck about the developer's intent
Your reasoning for thinking this way in the first place and going on about it to these lengths is completely arbitrary and nonsensical to begin with too. Literally nobody else gives a fuck if a game is being played 'as intended' except you.
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>>403188392
So mods are only a good thing when you like them, but if you dont like them and another person does, its invalid, because for some reason you think your opinion is superior to everyone elses
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>>403195096
I have a problem with people expecting someone else to make something for them, afterwards being disatisfied with the product and proceeding to create an abomination.
I absolutely hate anyone with such a lack of creativity and motivation to do something themselves. be an indie game developer if you're so good at fixing other people's shit.
It's not absolute, it's my opinion on the situation and as I've said, I hate people who do this. why? because I've met these people in real life. you know what they're like? absolute retards or children playing the next big mod for gta. and they do it to the point that some of them don't even know the original game or have never played it.
again, modding doesn't affect me, but it affects the gaming scene, and to a small extent, it affects how the developers put out their product bethesda because they expect the community to do free QA.
I don't want to pay money for a game and waste my time on the internet looking for fixes. I want the game to be good the second it comes out, otherwise it's a shoddy product.
and you can compare it to everything from food to cars. if I buy a car and I have to modify it to make it good then it's a shit car. if I buy a burger and I have to throw out some ingredients because I can't choose them myself than I made a mistake, because I knew what I was buying.
be happy with what you get or get something else.
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>>403195963
>be happy with what you get or get something else.

"Oh geez, this product is almost perfect for me but I just don't particularly like this one aspect"
"Well, better throw it in the garbage and look again!"

Your core point is stupidity. Give up.
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Nobody is forcing you to install these mods. If you don't like it, then make or fund a mod you want.
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>>403196326
why is it so compulsive for you to have everything be perfect? there will always be something you won't like. not everything is made with your tastes in mind, are you actually retarded?
this is what you sound like:
>fuck this game could have been perfect if the red was a bit more red!
accept it for what it is OR DON'T. is it so hard to understand?
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>>403196624
>why is it so compulsive for you to have everything be perfect?

Why should I not strive for perfection if it's within my abilities to reach it?
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>>403194818
Want to play Witcher 3. Can't stand combat or the open world it is in. But fuck I do want to play it.
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mods are good get the mods you want or dont stfu up anything beyond this is retarded
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>>403195963
Literally nobody in the world thinks they're entitled to a fucking videogame, anon. It's nothing to do with 'expecting someone else to make something for them'. You need to stop viewing everything in black and white too and start looking for a few shades of grey. You can still enjoy a game even if it's flawed, and there's nothing wrong with people in modding communities fixing said flaws if it's something that isn't high on a developer's priorities or if it's something a developer physically can't do anymore because they don't exist. Dawn of War 2 Elite Mod is an example of a mod done well: devs abandoned the game, people who enjoyed the game wanted the game to be even better and improved upon it themselves and revitalized interest in the game's multiplayer scene as a whole. There's zero downside to this but you'd still try and find something to bitch about. Also have to agree with >>403196326 Why does it have to be ACCEPT IT OR DON'T?
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>>403196778
>Why should I not strive for perfection if it's within my abilities to reach it?
What reach and what have your abilities done? My guess is nothing because your on here having a bitch fest.
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>>403196778
if you want it to be perfect, make it yourself. you will never be satisfied with this mentality of tweaking someone else's shit to fit your liking. you will always find something else to fix, something else to tweak just a little bit. maybe that could be changed a little, or maybe that.
you need to start accepting that everything you like will always be at best 99% of what your imagination tells you it should be, and the last 1% you need to overlook, otherwise you will compulsively try to fix everything single thing you come across.
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Some devs literally release a tool specifically for players to mod their game.
mods are never a problem.
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>>403197312
Or maybe he's not just a complete autist and can fix the thing that's bothering him and then just leave it at that?
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>>403173413
It's the artist's vision to have Blu-ray.com as a watermark in the bottom corner?
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>>403197205
I don't know man, I'm too much of an elitist piece of shit. I always try to make the best of something and not immediately bitch and moan that "it could've been even better if..."
I'll try to chill the fuck out
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>>403173413
They can make an otherwise shit game not shit,so you tell me.
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>>403197583
If you chill the fuck out then life will be more enjoyable for you, my man. Just enjoy the videogames
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>>403197312
Keep fucking backpedaling. The point was specificly made in a scenario where I like everything about a game except factor X, which can be modded to be changed. A bugfix, model swap, whatever, you name it.
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look what this guy wrote
>mods are good get the mods you want or dont stfu up anything beyond this is retarded
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>>403173678
Shit talking macho dragons, that also includes macho muties from Fallout 3

fag
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>>403173979
>t. homofaggot hypocrite
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>>403173413
Its about the freedom nigga, mods can rape the artists's vision but they give freedom to do whatever you want, sometimes enchant the vision sometimes to destroy them.

I personally like my skyrim/fallout games to become tropical paradises full of life and fun.
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>>403190238
>pic
fuck you dude people are crying around me in the emergency room
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>>403173413
You probably think you're just ironically being a fucking nu-/v/ faggot reshitposting this from your phone, OP.

Everybody in this thread has been trolled.
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>>403173413
Sometimes the game itself fucks it up
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>>403198892
???

What are you even saying.
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>>403179714
Its to have focus on the important aspect in the scene by controlling the light emission. It's done many times in cinema.

Sometimes you blur out the crowds, sometimes you dont. It all depends on how important it is. That's why in a game like Persona 5, all the unimportant people are silhouettes or they look like generic businessmen.
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>>403192275
who gives a sweet fuck
if marvel started coming into people's bedrooms telling them to stop drawing self inserts or changing the words around in their comics they should be burnt to the fucking ground.

Any time you pay for something it should be free license to do whatever the fuck you want with it so long as you don't have an unwanted effect on any other paying customer. Anything less and you're a corporate cuck who deserves to be strung up
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>>403174108
Christ, how come Kuze didn't do this to Kiryu?
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>>403177278
Are the underage really among us? In 5 years people will be saying Skyrim is best TES
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>>403173413
The artist's vision still exists and the majority of people will most likely play an unmodded version of the game. Who cares if a bunch of guys add anime titties later? They aren't going to be the majority.
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>>403201693
>In 5 years people will be saying Skyrim is best TES
Nah we have at least till 2020 for the next ES game. So Skyrim will hopefully be forgotten for a couple of months.
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forgot to mention toaster shitters like you should stick with indie games
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>>403176249
online multiplayer mods for games that don't have
online multiplayer are the only mods I use plus character mods that add original characters
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>>403176249
Basically anything
Generally don't bother too much graphical/visual shit other than bringing older games to dx11 and texture improvements
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Fucking weebs everywhere these days.
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>>403173678
>fix game
>bad mod
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>>403193862
This argument reminds me of autismos who get extremely mad if you relabel your old cartridge based game.
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>>403192632
I second this notion.
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Why don't game companies ever hire these modders? I always see talented people clearly improving certain games but none of them ever get picked up.

Do these game companies have their head too far up their ass to see real talent or are they afraid of damaging their ego?
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>>403173678
>>403173413
>mods must always be serious and grand-scale
>you are not allowed to make a silly reskin-type mod in 5 minutes or less for shits and giggles
kill yourselves
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>>403206704
I think it is mostly because of fear of modders learning how to make better stuff from the engine they use. As well as security so any secret projects don't get found out by other game companies and developers. Modders are like the interns for game developers but never the creators.
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>>403173678
holy run-on-sentence batman
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>>403173678
Absurdly retarded.

You can pick an example of a garbage "good mod" that offers nothing new and only causes unessesary scripts and shit.

>>403190729
Why are you so god damn autistic to the point where nobody wants to fucking talk to you even on an anonymous board you fucking manchild. Your ideas are so stupid you deserve to be shot
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>>403173413

>implying
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I think I know why SJWs are cranky all the time in regards to modding.

They can't mod. That's why they want to police developers to put THEIR vision in the game, but SCORN at modders who can actually change the game the way they choose. Modding also makes it so that any attempts they do to get the devs to censor what they want will be undone.
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>>403201693
Maybe youre just really fucking old and dont get fun. Worst of all autistic and can't understand different opinions.
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Yes.

One thing I don't like though is when some faggot puts his special snowflake reshade settings on the nexus and calls it a "graphics mod"
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>>403208020
Is that Skyrim?
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>>403173413
For the majority of games today, the only vision the artist has is how much money they can squeeze out of people.
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>>403173413
mods can lead to stand alone games so yes you fuckwit
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>>403189261
>YOU CANT CHANGE THE "CORE" OF THE GAME (whatever the fuck this means because you literally can)
>PLAY A DIFFERENT GAME
You suggest instead of doing 1/10h the effort to change something you should instead buy an entirely different game even if nothing even comes close to what skyrim or gmod does? Retard.

Are you against modded sports cars? Are you against taking and adding different ingredients in your burger at mcdonalds? Are you against fixing something at worse and improving at best. This attitude is exactly the same as someone saying he would rather a fast horse then innovate with buying a car

Skyrim is fine because i give literally 0 fucks about combat. I really couldnt care less, i enjoy exploring, playing out my own story and making my own companions and adventures for my amusement. Thats the core experience to me and that is as easy to manipulate and change as it is to scratch my nuts

Going sort of off topic, This is pretty much the attitude where the downfall of world of Warcraft stemmed from - the obsessive community which is usually the most vocal fixate on 1 aspect of the game and constantly ask the devs to tweak it and beg for changes left and right (in wows case this was pvp raids and "combat" which os garbage to the core and cant be fixed)
that means the devs stop focusing on the dozens of other fun things that many others liked(players wanted housing, fun professions, dress up or racing, instead you get garrisons, weapons, useless abilities and more fucking combat) Soon everything else is barebones and forgotten.

Combat can be boring if everything else makes up for it. Its what makes ffxiv so much more appealing, it offered a slightly different combat system but a hundred other great things to do, racing, houses, expamsive player to player interaction, more outfits, more social aspects, more exploration, better graphics professions that are given actual appreciation.

Tl;dr The core of a game is different for someone else.
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>>403211221
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>>403211545
t.all of 4chan
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>>403211221
Yeah but the difference between Wow and Bethesda is that Bethesda has given us the free will do create what we want in Skyrim. And no one can complain to them because it doesn't have online features. It is a stand alone game. If the game is online then it opens the flood gates of demands more than a stand alone game. Bethesda have done this smart from the beginning an are about to pluck the fruits of mods from people to sneakily add into either new ES or fallout games.
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>>403211965
Good, if the next elder scrolls c9mes with frostfall and pays attention to the weather that's fucking sweet. If it allows for a hunger system thats golden. If it offers more customization for outfits thats also great.
It bugs me how the player doesnt eat or sleep and doesn't need to buy shelter, and has an abundance of gold from being some walking enigma. Where everyone else struggles for rent, taxes, food medicine and supplies. Thats what elder scrolls should offer. It doesnt necessarily need to be a core element and definetely doesnt need to be a requirement but its something people should get.

Fo4 was bad because it took mods and didnt offer recognition to the designers. Skyrim modders probably had the best situation by getting their mods in magazines and using it as portfolios for future jobs.
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>>403173413
yes
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>>403213138
>It bugs me how the player doesnt eat or sleep and doesn't need to buy shelter
Go to a tavern and rent a room. Ask the bartender for food. Sleep on is weird but you get a bonus for sleeping your own bed. And you can do all of this naturally in Skyrim. But people mainly just use potions. Also hardest difficulty on Skyrym actually does have food and sleep effect you. I think it's survivor mode.
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>>403214796
Thats just rping. I want the game to punish you for being some robot who doesnt eat or sleep.

It feels forced and doesnt compare to what i and many others described as challenging or an authentic mechanic. Hell you almost sound like a lazy dev trying to avoid adding a mechanic.
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>>403201693
Oblivion came out in 2006. The vast majority of people who played it when it came out are well over 18.
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>>403214796
The beds and food are all there, why are they not actually part of the world? Its just plastic food is what it boils down to.
If you have food and beds why is the player exempt from being a living entity among everyone else who partakes in these mechanics.
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>>403215451
Games that add that never add it right. Those open world crafting survival games are a great example. Listen, you fucking niggers, I can go more than five minutes without eating. I can go a whole day or more without eating. Why do they expect me to eat four times a day, for fuck's sake.
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>>403215451
no man you want to play life simulator go play the sims, leave es6 alone with this realism trash
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>>403215658
Fucking right. They dont playtest it thats why. Those are imdie devs who play for maybe 2 hours and then tweak it without pitting in an actual playthrough.

New vegas was good but your player could go 4 days before he had any sleep deprivation which was retarded. Food was ok but after an hour you can easily have stocked up 15 steaks and 5 gallons of water with no fear.
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>>403202026
God that's so beautiful.
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>>403194818
what armor piece is that
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>>403175341
That's a picture of real life don't bullshit me
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>>403174651
Literally who cares about achievables anyway
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>>403177981
Kek
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>>403215658
There's also the fact that those games don't do so well with balancing the hunger mechanic with scarcity. They probably inflate the need to eat because once you know what you're doing, food is easy as shit to get. I agree it's a terrible design and a terrible balance, too.
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>>403173413
It is, you insufferable faggot. Fuck the artists'/devs' "vision." When I get the goods, I do what I want with it, and no mortal agency in this world can stop me. Look at Skyrim. And FO4. They're fucking dogshit without mods. It also extends the life of a game. Considering that many games nowadays have about less than 10 hours of content (if you take out the artificial bloating of game time), extending the life of a game via mods would make that $60+ price tag worth it.
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>>403173413
Artists don't make video games. Artists make assets for video games. Therefore you cannot ruin and Artist's vision by modding a game.
/thread
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>>403217913
mmm ... ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o-ojTM6tCE
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>>403218546
Mass effect 2 with mods?
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>>403173413
>artist's vision
Why should I care?
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>>403177981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMbcOC5dS5k
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>>403219636
I dunno, i think i remember someone talking about fallout 4 or nv when i d/l'd the webm.
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>>403173413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iypABvVK1Ik
made Resident Evil 4 mercs even more fun on cube
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>>403173413
I would have never played gothic3, vanilla was broken af
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>>403219991
Bullshit that is fucking Jacob from Mass Effect 2 in the background clear as night.
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>>403196326
You can't fix stupid, anon. Just let him hang himself and move on.
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>>403173869
>>403189913
r/movies please go
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>>403181127
furfaggot
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>>403217913
its literally not
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>>403219560
That's some mindfucking uncanny valley shit right there.
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>>403173413
I don't understand images like these.
Do you play games for your own enjoyment or to appease the developers? Who the hell cares what their vision was?
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>>403220871
It's clearly New Vegas with Jacob model imported
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>>403223472
It looks better in a video than on your screen. I tried that enb a few years ago and it looked like ass.
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>>403173678
Something as sexy as AA shouldn't be used in that shitty picture.
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>>403176870
It's not.
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If you like playing the game how you like it, then yes, modding is great.
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Tell me ONE game with ZERO porn mods
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>>403173991
Ancient Aliens looks great, but it's pretty hard. That's one thing that can suck about a lot of the nicer mapsets, they look nice, but get into slaughter-wad territory by the end.
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>>403219560
Why does the video use TWEWY music
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>>403223472

now you see the power of modding
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>>403173413
>Is having the option to do something bad?
Fuck off
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>>403192275
>any more than Marvel expects you to buy a spider man comic and draw in your own characters in every panel
It doesn't fucking matter what Marvel expects, I can draw whatever the fuck I like in a comic that I have purchased with my money and there's not a thing Marvel can do to stop me.
What an absolutely stupid comparison
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it makes it more fun
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>>403223703
That would be dragbody mods
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mods are go-
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>>403174126
This. I have a shameful number of hours in Skyrim on account of the overhaul mods and additional content that's still coming out for a 6 year old game, mostly because with the NSO mods I was finally able to have a truly satisfying wizard playthrough.
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>>403192275
>he doesn't mod his comics with grass textures and anime girls
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>>403206704
They do, it depends on the game.
Minecraft modders get recruited a lot based on their githubs, whereas bethesda modding is just lazy piss indian tier work, of course they don't get hired.
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>>403230421
Oh wait you said gaming companies.
Gaming companies are terribly managed, their investors are legit retards.
Minecraft modders get hired by actual tech companies, not gaming ones.
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>>403173413
No.
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>>403175341
>GTA IV
> +10 million PP injectors, on top of 30 GB of uncompressed textures

have fun with your taxi slideshow in real-time
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>>403192275
>not modding your religious tracts
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>>403229635
what map mod is that?
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>>403231319
some asian mods I converted into sse called skyrim seaworld
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>>403231456
nice
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>>403173413
No! Modding is bad! You are forced at gunpoint to install them all!
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>>403231530
It's something
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>>403173413
Dude weed mods
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>>403231860
dat good old herb
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>>403173413
>Is modding REALLY a good thing?

Underage get out
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>>403192382
My brother played the shit out of it and he loved it. As a prequelbabby I instinctively applaud prequelfaggotry. So it seems like an amazing mod to me
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>>403173413
Yes?

If you don't like mods, don't use them.
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>>403177538
A movie is literally a manifestation of dozens of people's artistic vision
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>>403231860
There needs to be more smoking mods. Shit like Venom Snake's cigar in TPP are gr8.
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Quick! List games that have the best mods
>Doom 2
>Quake
>STALKER
>Max Payne
>SWAT 4
>Half Life
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UT 2k4
Mod is Ballistic weapons
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Half-Life 2.
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>>403192275
> What is released is, generally, the vision for the work
Cool. Now I am gonna enhance that shit by redrawing Peter as a hot female with big tits. We know that ass needs a pounding.
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>>403232539

Mount & Blade: Warband
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>>403233132
Where do you find the double barrel in SMOD.
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>>403192275
>A game isn't meant to be freely modified by the consumer

Maybe they shouldn't release mod tools then, you fucking moron.
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>>403187904
what game???
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>>403173413
I would rather play the one on the bottom, so yes.
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>>403197583
Nigga did you just have an insight and publicly shared it with us. Respect man.
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>>403233625
That version is Redux V8, Bossn00b's edit.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/smod-redux-re-maked-by-bossn00b-version-2/downloads/smod-redux-re-made-by-bossn00b-version-2

Organically it's found in Ravenholm, but I turned on NPC weapon randomization so someone dropped it. For other version of SMOD, you have to manually download it and add it.

http://bsnooch.com/forums/index.php?topic=356.0
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>>403233929
>safe space for shit taste

Newfag revisionism never ceases to amaze.
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>>403189985
Sure about that buddy?
Did you play my game...
and...
not...
....
Talk about it?
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>>403234104
Is it in V10? I recently downloaded that one but haven't played it since I'm gonna have to start over again.
Fallout New Vegas has some neat mods. If only the engine the game was made in was halfway decent.
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>>403176870
if you don't think so, get the fuck back on your plantation. you don't deserve games or fun, your only purpose in life is to pick cotton 18 hours a day, every day, all year until you drop dead.
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>>403234297
>Is it in V10?
No, I had to put it in there, too.
>V10
If you got that off of moddb, get the 2014 version.
http://bsnooch.com/forums/index.php?topic=1494.0
Has more mapadds (enemy placements, encounters, etc.)
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>>403234686
Are the different versions any better ? What exactly do they add? Thanks for all the info bro.
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>>403234765
>Are the different versions any better ? What exactly do they add?
The creator of Redux put together something called Ultimate HL2 Campaign for vanilla SMOD back in 2013.
>- Mapadds of SMOD40a, SMOD Redux, SMOD Outbreak, and several unique changes all merged into one very, very intense version of the HL2 story.
This was 2013. In 2014, the creator of Redux took the best of them and added them to Redux to make Redux Final, which is in the link I posted. I'd say you'd be missing out if you stuck to V10 from moddb.
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>>403189261
The majority of devs are ok with modding because it increases the longevity of the game and any dev with sense will rarely ever be satisified.

The only devs who dont want mods either just simply dont have the manpower to make a frame good enough, are shackled to their greedy publishers, or are pretentious fools who truly believe their creation is perfect (it aint)
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>>403232539
You can think about the game what you want but Skyrim has the largest most active modding community out there and some mods are truly great.
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>>403235287
This.
Even games like Diablo 1/2 which it itself are nearly perfect but still have mods that drastically change the games up and people enjoy it past the games normal 'expiration date'.
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>>403173413
Yes. They're optional.
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>>403232539
Oblivion
Jedi Outcast
Starcraft/Warcraft
Dead or Alive(if that's your thing, sure ain't mine)
Super Smash Bros
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>>403187783
>it's true
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>>403235367
The skyrim modding community is a joke, have you ever wondered why script heavy mods run so bad?
None of them can code for shit.

There are maybe one or two technically impressive skyrim mods.
The vast majority of shit is graphical, and most mod conflicts aren't actually true conflicts, but assets overwriting each other due to bethesda's general retardation.
A true mod conflict would be something like how dll injections are incompatible with certain ENBs or something, because both actually change the game engine.
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>>403198725
Crying from laughing too hard or...?
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>>403234136
Sorry man, forgot only true american patriots are allowed to browse english 2chan. haha fuck le anime weebs amirite? XD
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>>403177830
Does uh... does the bikini come off? Asking for my dick.
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>>403235757
You can still manage to run a 200+ plugin list with some effort. The quality of Beths or the modding communitys coding is not important to me as long as stuff works.
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>>403235757
A lot of mods conflict thanks to bethesda's rule of one system.
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>>403235757
the sex mods like sexlab destroy your game it is so script heavy and coded like shit.
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>>403236431
Yes, but if they weren't retarded, you could have significantly better mods.
And I know, I'm playing skyrim with a shitload of mods; a shitload of script heavy ones and multiple dlc sized content additions, and also the porn mods and the loli mods.
Completely stable, only crash is related to my gpu dying because it involves artificing and purging the VRAM fixes it occasionally.

Interestingly enough the porn mods are probably the only technically impressive ones, but even those can be retarded, like their over reliance on cloak spells rather than events.

>>403236617
Do you mean their complete inability to do any abstraction whatsoever?
In order to modify something you have to include all of the original record completely, you can't just modify a subrecord.
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>>403236831
Yes, I mean that. Having to go through every record to make a merged patch is a bitch. The automated process never works properly.
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The whole point of modding is that you play the game the way you want to play it. If you want the original experience, play it without mods. If you don't want mods that change the original intent of the game or artstyle or whatever, then just download the mods you think fit the game and not anime girl mods.

What is even the issue here?
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>>403237035
Wrye Bash made it pretty easy though, didn't it? Modding for Oblivion was made pretty straightforward once Bash and BOSS became a thing.
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>>403237198
Nope, especially if you wanted to make sure everything was carried over. The last time I modded skyrim (a few months ago) i ended up having to every cell because of a lighting mod conflicting with a music mod and the unofficial patch.
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>>403173413
ftfy
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>>403237454
I can see how something like that would be incredibly painful.
I wonder if someone's made tes5edit scripts that'd help with that.
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>>403238636
i honestly think this one is more impressive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9m82VfXYfA
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>>403232253
respect is a spook
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>>403189615
they didn't even fucking try
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>>403226416
Yume Nikki
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>>403239746
I don't know how any computer can run this at more than a slideshow framerate. I'm playing with vanilla graphics pretty much and it runs like shit on my PC. Where do I go to try and make my game look like this, anyway?
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>>403240939
same, I installed a enb for GTA SA and it ran at sub 20 fps on a 1080ti and i7 7700k
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>>403240939

for graphics, the thing that people don't understand is that by and large, graphic cards, RAM and all that ad-hoc shit doesn't make that big of a difference.

it's 90% processor power.
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>artists vision
This is such a fucking shitty argument. Youre a fucking retard if you think any of the Elder Scrolls games have ever really been what the artists envisioned. Take a look at literally any of the landscape concept art for Skyrim and tell me the final release has even a fraction of the appeal the art does. At least with mods and (certain) enbs the game can come a little closer to what they had envisioned before all the interesting concepts had been choked out of the game by companies worried about wide audience appeal and sales
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>>403173413
Why does this retarded thread keep being posted, it's a choice. If your game looks like the cancer in your image then that's on you.
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>>403242979
It's probably the only way to get a modding thread that isn't explicitly skyrim or furshit.
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>>403173413
Yes, and you're a dumb casual faggot if you think otherwise. Some games are drastically improved with mods and given more longevity, and shit mods are easily avoided. It also has literally no affect on you if some weeb neet mods his favorite chinese cartoons into his SP games.
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>>403173678
shitty joke mods are literally reddlt
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If they're asking for 40 to 60 burger tokens why should I give a damn about their "vision"?
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If you can look at this and still tell me modding is a bad thing, we can't be friends anymore /v/.
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>>403208978
GOD
DAMN
YOU
NO BARK
YOU MANIAC
WHY DIDN'T WE LISTEN
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>>403181049
this makes me think
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>>403244870
single-handedly restored my faith in mods
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>>403173413
Fucking autism Jesus fucking Christ
Who gives a fuck what the artists "vision" was
99% of games aren't meant to have a "vision" or be artistic in anyway and can be enjoyed in any way the player sees fit
I bought the game and am capable of modifying it to my liking, whether it be improving it graphically or adding stupid mods to fuck around with
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>>403179714
To give more focus for the character and his emotions.
The background in that fram is too noisy.
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>>403247235
>The Entire Comment
I like you




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