Why do you hate gay people and gay rights, and why do you let it affect your enjoyment of a game featuring them? Please, no gay lovers post in this thread. Only the haters. I want to hear their thoughts.
>>420412432Its not the gayness its the pandering
>>420412432Check this 5.
left > rightI hate ellies new look
I'm gay and my greatest wish upon a star would be homosexuals not turning gender preference into a personality. If ellie was straight they would feel no need to put a boy in this scene.
>>420412432>>420412432gay people are disgusting
I am gay. This is gay exploitation for profit under the veneer of social justice. And the game looks shit, if you took away the gay and turned the main character to Elliot, but kept everything else the same, it's still look like a gross, muddy, boring shooter.
>>420412545What makes it pandering, though?
I watch such pandering destroy an mmo when all the money is invested on them and their retarded story instead of actual game content.
>>420412807>This is gay exploitation for profit under the veneer of social justice. this but unironically
>>420412432Ellie is based on Ellen Page. The developers deny this but to me it's obvious. Ellie looks like Ellen Page. She's a lesbian just like Ellen Page. The reason the devs deny Ellie being based on Ellen is because they probably want to avoid a lawsuit and royalties for using her likeness.
>>420412957Why would they put Ellen page in their game though?
>>420412432It's the fact that she looks like a literal goblin and the director also does irl and he's playing it off as normal.
>>420412432Death to Faggot enablers.
>>420413374Developers use actors and actresses in game all the time. It's for brand recognition and marketing. Kojima is using well known actors and actress in "Death Stranding".
>>420412432At least make her lover pretty wtf is this goblino jewess
>>420413576But Ellen Page isn't even in on it.
>>420412432dont get me wrongI respect the studio for their artistic liberty to do whatever they want with their frenchisebut you have to respect my opinion thats its pandering and forced trash I wont buy even on salesTLOU endet with its first part, TLOU2 is a cashgrab and not canon in my opinion
>>420412432/v/ gets mad at girls kissing because this board is full of gay guys
Cuckmann's attitude is the problem. He's prioritising things that don't matter like Ellie's sexuality over actually interesting themes and ideas that could be explored instead. He along with so many other vg writers think they are doing something important by putting all this effort into inclusiveness and 'equal' representation, and anyone who doesn't like it is on the wrong side of history. It's a self-important delusion that makes the writing worse.
>>420412432I don't care. It's not a selling point nor a reason not to buy.
>>420412432I hate everyone.
>>420412885The fact they used this particular scene in the marketing for the game about surviving the apocalypse. If it was just something that happened in the game it wouldn't be nearly as bad and forced. It is pretty obvious they are making a political stand when they decide to present their game like this.
>>420412432Druckmann is another person part of the twitter circle where they have an unhealthy obsession with pushing stupid ideas they deem important in their polarized worldview.
>>420414062This is correct.
>>420414062I don't remember, was there a single fungi zombie in the damn presentation?
>>420412758You have no way of knowing that.
>>420414062Some anons in a past thread mentioned possible story elements like the Ellie's immunity and the possibility of being able to pass on the immunity through procreation. There could be a decent story behind Ellie's orientation vs. the future of humanity. It could work, but only if the writing team it thoughtful about it, but I don't have much faith in that.
Because my surrogate daughter is about to have her eye poked out by that bird beast
I’m curious why this is getting so many threads when the dlc revealed she was from lesbos.I’m also curious if she’s risking spreading the fungus every time she kisses someone.
>>420412432I just viscerally find it disgusting. I can't even entertain a homo relation irl in any serious fashion to me they're just 2 deranged individuals and I want none of that in my life or in my vidya. there are no epic 300 pages arguments in my reasoning honestly, it just grosses me out
>>420412432I hate gays because they are turning me gay.
>>420414815He can't know it for sure. But it's a pretty good guess. You don't know who this character is or how she is related to the story. Why include her in the trailer at all? The only answer, that kinda makes sense, is that it was included to make a point about Elie's sexuality.
Lesbian here, how do I find a cute girl like Ellie?
>>420415189Grow really thick eyebrows and sideburns, stop bathing and convert to Judaism.
Just stop it! Take it to /lgbt/ to make room for more smash and samurai game postings!
>>420414809I don't think so.
>>420415150God that's fucking sad. Politics hinders the progress of medicine and science, causing us to slog through a bunch of unnecessary suffering.
>>420415189implant toucan DNA directly into your sinuses
The problem here isn't the lesbian shit. /a/ is pretty much proof that we don't care about that. The problem is that they got some ugly goblin is with Ellie and it's so fucking pandering that it drowns out the rest of the game. If the girl was hotter, it would be fine.
>>420412807Good to know I'm not the only literalfag annoyed by this.
It doesn’t affect my enjoyment. The Last of Us is boring shit with or without lesbians
>>420412885>why is it pandering though XD tee heeFuck. Off.
>>420412432>director is ugly goblin jew who cares about gay rights>character is ugly goblin jew who is gayReally makes you think.
>>420412432gayness an illness and that kike is ugly as shit
>>420412432Fags wouldn't be a problem if they weren't used to sell stuff to the media. People that like games want to see gameplay in a trailer, not propagandaBut, seriously, they really have a fragile ego and always think someone has a beef with them for their sexual condition like they didn't have negative features at all
>>420415803Except she's not, she's probably a 9/10, maybe even a 10/10. I would marry her instantly.
>>420412432>Cute little Ellie somehow looks like a fucking man now>Making out with a literal fucking jewAlready dropped, knew this game was going to be garbage from the start since we're not playing Joel.
>>420415947Man, I wish my bar was as low as yours
>>420414815How many action-adventure gameplay trailers have a zoomed in high-def cinemtic scene of a guy and a girl kissing?
>>420415981Glad you posted a picture of yourself, shows the level of maturity we're dealing with here. How does it feel knowing you're wrong and that the game will most likely be the best selling game this generation? No joke, how does it make you feel? MIllions of people will experience and love it, not to mention the numerous 10/10 scores it'll get. How mad are you right about now?
>>420415826Paranoia, schizophrenia, all these mental problems seem to be related somehow.
>>420412432It's so blatantly forced.There's no buildup to it, there's literally nothing in the previous game that implied that she was gay.>inb4 Left BehindLiterally nothing there implied they had feelings like that.If they were gonna do something like this, the least they could've done is shown some buildup in the game rather than shoving it in our faces during the showing for it.tl;dr Poor presentation.
>>420415947not everyone has standards that low
>>420416303>There's no buildup to itWhat do you want, a big song and dance number about how gay she is? You'd soon bitch about that too "waaaah stop making it your entire personality, just be like normal people!" You breeders are never happy are you?
>>420416364>your subjective opinion is an objective fact
>>420412432When a games selling point is that it has gay characters then it's a game I'm not interested in.
>>420416547Thank you for agreeing
I don't care about it at all. What I do care about is when they specifically use it for "gasps" and the press. It's shit like this that keeps the homophobia alive today. They still treat it like something that needs to be put on a pedestal because "lol so diverse!!". Had they just put it in and showcased the fucking gameplay, if all devs do that shit homophobia would fucking end.
>>420416520>"What is character development?" the post
>>420416364>I like shark fins in my face
>>420414626>the game about surviving the apocalypse.Isn't it a game about Ellie who's been through shit and is now living through it. I love how you guys just write off characters as irrelevant whenever you feel like it.It's like saying, well, it's a post-apocalyptic world so all characters are mannequinns who all fucked a lizard and then wanted to murder Grob with a stone for fucking their wife and being better at it than you so you now can't handle your self-esteem trying to strangle you.
>>420416364Must be really hungry for (You)s if you can't even come up with a better bait. So here's one extra
>>420416520>You breeders are never happy are you?The fact that you think the ability to have offspring can be used as a derogatory term shows how mentally ill you are.
>>420416520>What do you want, a big song and dance number about how gay she is?No, I wanted buildup. I wanted a story behind it. I wanted something like "Life is Strange", where instead of it being the first thing they show you, in the damn trailer at that, they build up that relationship until it's actually relevant, and isn't a damn closeup.>You breeders are never happy are you?If the majority of your arguments revolve around ad hominem, it's probably not a very good one.
>>420416831You had literally an entire game plus DLC of character devolopment, shocking some people just happen to be gay, they don't make their sexuality their entire personality like most straight people do. You can have character devolopment without ever going near sexuality, it happens all the time with straight characters but of course I don't see you bitching about that.
>>420412432I don't. I simply don't care as long as it's not shoved in my face.No hetero kiss has ever been given that screen time at E3. It's a marketing gimmick, it's virtue signalling, and compared to the gay character from the first game it's totally hamfisted.
>>420416252>How does it feel knowing you're wrongHow does it feel to use a logical fallacy and attack the person instead of the, arguably lacking, argument and also make judgment based on appearance alone? When you don't even know if that fag in the picture is him? Weren't "leftists" suppose to be including? Assuming you are even one? I was baited wasn't I?
>>420417113>I wanted something like "Life is Strange", Why do you lie? You don't want that at all because I guaranteeyou if that happened you'd complain about it being shoved down your throats. As I said, you people are never happy.If you're homophobic just man up and own it, don't hide behind excuses like a little bitch
>>420416520I'm straight and I don't want kids. Retarded gay fag.
Is it me or did Elle not seem too into that kiss? I know she's gay and all but that girl seemed kinda...forceful.
>>420417351>Poster is literally an anti-semetic pol user>WAAAH, YOU SHOULD USE LOGIC Grow up anon
>>420412432Homo here and this just feels likes a company using the safest possible "progressive" thing to do so they can have a shield against criticism and claim to be representing and championing LGBTWhatever people while not risking sales. There was nothing to this scene. Who are these characters besides Ellie? How do they know each other? For how long? Why wasn't this romance built up after getting to know Ellie's love interest first. The whole damn thing felt like a cynical, hollow decision made by corporate marketing.
>>420417365>yet more ad hominem and projectionStart arguing any time.
>>420417495>polYou’re mentlaly ill
>>420412432It's kind of hard to take a message of acceptance and liberal values seriously when your game is set in a gritty, post-apocalyptic wasteland where vicious tribes of people butcher each other over territory and resources.
>>420417495>POL POL POLShutup.
>You're a huge threat>SmoochIs this some fucking lesbian YA Novel?
BECAUSE FUCK YOUR FUCKING RETARDED MODERN GAME DEVSTHEY MADE A CUTE GIRL ELLIE INTO A FUCKING GOBLINO MALETHEY MADE HER KISS AN UGLY AS SIN JEWISH MUTANTWOMEN ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE BIG BREASTS ANYMORE IN GAMES, MEDIOCRITY IS PRAISED, NEW ASSASSINS CREED CHARACTERS LOOK LIKE FUCKING NPCS.FOR SOME REASON EVERYBODY WANTS TO PLAY AS GENERIC UNREMARKABLE FUCKS WHOSE ONLY TRAIT IS THAT'S THEY'RE GAY OR LESBIAN.EVERY FEMALE CHARACTER IN GAMES NOW HAS TO CONSTANTLY TALK ABOUT EQUALITY, EVERY FEMALE CHARACTER IS NOW EXTREMELY STRONG AND HAS NO FLAWS WHATSOEVER.I CAN'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND WHY GAME DEVS TRY SO HARD NOWADAYS TO MAKE THEIR CHARACTERS FUCKING UGLY OR BLAND.
check this 1
>>420417495it's gross it's racist
>>420414891If so, her Jewish gf will sell her out to an army of rapists for many golds
>>420417547>Homo hereHave you checked your privilege today?
>>420417495>WAAAH, YOU SHOULD USE LOGICAnd you have the nerve to tell me to grow up.
>>420417941I'm not interested in being a professional victim. They can battle for their place at the top of the oppression totem just fine without me.
>>420417783heh, triggered at this AND at things he can't handle in videogames he can ignore. nice +
Appealing to gays is an incredibly safe marketing play. Loads of huge corporations have done pride month advertisements and it's not because they give a shit, it's because LGBT people are incredibly easy to manipulate.I'm bisexual and I know this and have seen it. Tumblr is head over heels for TLOU2 and Asscreed now that it has lesbians and that's the only reason. Lesbains are a super safe play too, since straight dudes like them and gay people like them.It's not that we care if there is gays in the game but the fact that sony went LOOKL-LOOK THEYRE GAYGAAAAAAYBIG GAY LESBAINSBUY GAME PLSDoesn't distract from the fact that the game is a cutscene fighter. 95% of the game will be cutscenes or microcuntscene combat.Basically a movie.
>>420412909I still miss my norn char anon...
>>420416973>know they hate me cause they know they aren't normalRidiculous how fucking true this is. For faggots, trannies, all of the scum.
>>420418225Triggered at it because insufferable cunts like you seem to hate free speech.
>>420418339Deadfire did it too. Everyone is canon gay and allowed to date straight options. But narratively they're all gay. I'm honestly surprised no LGBTQ groups are mad about being so obviously used.
>>420418339Let's be honest here: if it was two men kissing it would have cost them sales. They know this just like they know how safe lesbians are.
>>420412545Did you also hate the heterosexual pandering in the witcher games?
>>420418564>hate free speechexcuse me. i haven't actually looked at this thread at all, you just seemed like a numpty. if you're angry at videogames for having something you don't like in them(probably because you're insecure), you can just ignore them. or circlejerk your /pol/pals.
>>420418653The only people who like gay dudes kissing is gay dudes and fujoshis which is a huge minority. The amount of straight dudes who find girls kissing hot is way bigger.They tried to virtue signal and didn't even take a risk with it, showing how lifeless it is. It's strictly a marketing play.
>>420412432i don't have a problem with gay guysonly gay women
>>420415189>Lesbian hereDo you seriously think you're as oppressed as fags or at all?
Ok /v/. Lets compromise. No more queer romances but in exchange no more hetero romances or women with above size B breats.
>>420412885Given that SJW topics are the hot click bait topic of the time, and that Neil is very vocal about it, it's clear that this scene was deliberately chosen to appeal to this crowd. What's literally happening and the implications of the dialogue are pandering to these groups hard. It's more of a statement and less of a showcase of the game's story. The issue is also that it takes away from the game and dilutes it down to a propaganda piece.
>>420418859Women have childrens brains, of course they do.
>>420418970>Given that SJW topics are the hot click bait topic of the timeI wonder how it's going to end. Topics like these always end up falling out of fashion like DnD = Satan, Pokemon = Devil, etc...but topics like this I feel like will be very difficult to end.
>>420417941reminds me of this shit
>>420419118We could use an actual zombie apocalypse at this point.
>>420419118Why are they eating their own?
>>420419118Honestly a bit of a head scratcher you got there my dude.
>>420418782I have never been to pol retard.
>>420417495>it's always pol !!>said the neogaf refugeei want both pol and neogaf to LEAVE MY BOARD REEEEEE
>>420419082>Topics like these always end up falling out of fashionMaybe in the past, but given that the internet is such common tool for people to communicate and push their opinions, I don't think it's going anywhere. We're essentially going to see what would happen if the hippy movement existed if the internet (twitter, facebook, instagram, youtube) was around.
The lesbian trope in video games and scifi is old, predictable and boring. Did they make tomb raider gay yet?
>>420419118Try saying that headline out loud without laughingthis shit is too much mayne
>>420419410>>said the neogaf refugeeWhy the fuck would Ex-Neofags be here? 4chan is literal Satanic Hell Suplex Supreme to them. They have their walled garden.
>>420419118I hope our society collapses soon and nature take over the world again.
>>420416973seems like you are resentful
>>420419118ARE CHINESE BISEXUAL PEOPLE THE GAY BLACK PEOPLE OF NON-BINARY LATINO PEOPLE? I don't know how these people think of this shit every day. I'd have taken a nice hot bath with the toaster by now instead of having that shit run through my mind all the fucking time.
A game dev could quite literally show us absolutely anything from their game. They chose very consciously to show us this. Whether you're politically left or right you can't deny that it's blatant pandering.
>>420412432lmao that fucking nose dude
>>420419118Just end all humans, we were a complete failure.
>>420419585Dont know about the nature part but the collapse is guaranteed happening in our lifetimes
>>420419585>tfw Unabomber did nothing wrong
>>420419118It's the asian thing all over again
>>420419465>Did they make tomb raider gay yet?She had a qt Asian girlfriend in the first game that NEVER FUCKING SHOWED UP AGAIN GODDAMNIT
>>420419689Well yeah. It's E3 the biggest gaming event in the World. Of course they'll do that shit.
>>420419118It's like the more they climb down the ladder, the more power they have.
>>420413953>this board is full of gay guysLiking women is gay, because they like dicks and that's gay. I only like straight alpha males who hate faggots as much as I do. I stopped having sex with females when I realized sex with a women is still 50% sex with a male. So I cut out the woman- I'm straight, so I only like penis now.
>meanwhile outside of /v/, normies and kids are eating this shit up and game is gonna sell like crazy
>>420420010Link to the reaction video please?
>>420416973OP here, literally a straight fat white male lolI just wanted to try and understand different viewpoints than my own. So far all of this has been enlightening, so thank you thread.
>>420420010That's how it starts.The fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men... cruel.
>>420412432What the hell are "gay rights"?No, gays don't bother me, but when a jew writer has lesbians kissing in a church, you know it's intentionally done to shit on Christianity (I'm not even Christian btw). When can we expect to see gay guys kissing in a Mosque, or trannies having sex in a jewish temple? Oh, right, never.
>>420420010>Gradually I began to hate them
>>420420706it only gets worse until cucked whites either give up and die for real, or lynch every single kike
>>420416973>They are almost always angry, bitter, resentful beings.The sheer irony
>>420412432I don't really care. But there's a 99% chance since you're playing as a little lesbian girl that thematically the game won't resonate with me at all. Also, I didn't think the first game's mechanics were all that amazing.
I'm one of the people who didn't mind this because, well we had Left Behind, but like a lot of people I did think back then that THAT scene in the DLC was just two teens acting on their instinct and not really thinking it through, like they all do. I also didn't mind this because it isn't taking a shit in the grave of something established, and something which claims historical authenticity like Battlefield V does, now that's offensive.I feel like the scene in Part 2 has a meaning though, we see Ellie in the aftermath of a manslaughter and we learn that she's on a revenge path, and I feel like that sentence ties into the newest trailer, so I believe her lover gets killed, and possibly that whole camp aswell, I really fucking hope the "Joel being dead" theory isn't true. Speaking of the reveal trailer, I am upset about one thing in the newest one though, why the fuck did they make Ellie so ugly? She looked like a natural evolution in the first trailer to what she was in the first game, but here she looks like a boy.
>>420412432>be immune to the zombie aids>become a lesbian dooming humanitywhat did naughtydog mean by this
>>420412432I don't hate gay people, I hate ugly people
>>420421314Joel chose poorly
>>420412432Because I don't want a fetish hamfistedly forced into my video games to further an agenda of preferential treatment for perverts by calling their mental illlness 'genetic'.Fuck off with that gay shit and bring back 90's video games you fucking faggots.
>>420412885They wasted more than half of the games presentation on a really boring scene just so they could show off a lesbian kiss.If they were showing a new Uncharted game and the bulk of the trailer was just Drake awkwardly flirting with Elana I would’ve hated that also.
>>420421295>why the fuck did they make Ellie so ugly? She looked like a natural evolution in the first trailer to what she was in the first game, but here she looks like a boy.puberty
>>420421295>I am upset about one thing in the newest one though, why the fuck did they make Ellie so ugly?We're in the age of no longer designing females characters in a way that titillates the male gaze. If women are pretty then their power is undermined. Ellie wouldn't be a true threat if she was attractive and fuckable.
>>420412432I don't give a shit.https://strawpoll.com/8r757efh
>>420413576That’s not Ellen Page you idiot
>>420421686>bring back 90's video gamesPlay Japanese, Polish and mid budget PC indies and you're good to go. Western AAA is almost entirely dead aside from a few exceptions.
>>420421295I think her looks are probably a byproduct of trying to survive in a post-apocalyptic world first and foremost, with social interaction and norms coming second. Granted, its a video game and not the most realistic thing ever, but I feel I can safely assume that was the intent. Some women just aren't as attractive as others at the end of the day, I guess.
>>420412432give me one good reason to like gay people?
He has made quite a shockwave around the internet, this jew knew exactly what he was doing.
>>420416252That's a picture of sonic kid newfag. Lurk more.
>>420422009They have feelings that can be hurt.
>>420422108so do muslims and terrorist.
>>420421868Meanwhile, in Japan.
>>420419385if you say so ;)
>>420422009Gay guys can be the greatest wingmen because women trust fags for some reason. t. fag who got one friend laid three times and another twice
>>420422009Give me one good reason to like people.
>>420422009Despite their sexual preference, one of them might somehow bring some form of joy to your life, possibly even indirectly? I mean at the end of the day people are people so why should it be that you and them should get along so awfully?
>>420415189Go to Saudia Arabia and visit the lezbo roof top hangouts.
>>420418898No more romances period. Leave that shit to the movies it's not necessary in games
>>420421868That doesn't make sense
>>420422442Gay sissyboi detected. Your parents are embarrassed by you.
>>420422937but I like titties and big fat lady ass? lolYeah you're probably right on the parents tho. Dad loves Trump
>>420421764You're lying though, because plenty of game announcements/trailers have included lengthy emotional/fee fee related cutscenes and no one gave a fuck. People are REEEing because they're gay. Own that and stop being a little bitch about your true motives.
>>420416261>vermin has a share in anti-HIV treatment making corporationsauce pls
>>420418970>things promoting values I disagree with are propogandaHow dare people use their creative energy and resources to develop a platform to promote equality
>>420416261very interesting, do you work in the medical field?
>>420412432Thanks for another addition to my filter. 'gay'.
She's hideously stereotypical. Good luck next time, Fuckmann.
>>420423749The pandering used so far simply isn't in good taste. It's too on the nose.
>>420412432>Why do you hate gay peopleBecause it is sexual deviance. Aside of serving no purpose for society, It spreads sexual desiase and degrades culture with all kinds of sexual degeneracy. >gay rightsThis is a meme. People only have rights because they have duties. Gay people neglet their natural duties of protecting their nation's future through offspring and tradition. Thus, gay people shoudn't have rights.>why do you let it affect your enjoyment of a game featuring them?Aside from the fact that it is simply unpleasant to see two people of the same sex having a romantic relationship,
Unironically it's the straight male gaze sexualizing a lesbian kiss anon. We are not the ones talking about how they are lesbians, it's Naughty Dog by shoving it on our faces.Seriously, it's like Blue is the Warmest Color, a story about lesbians but the way it was shot it's like hardcore porn, the kissing scene from TLoU 2 focused too much on it to the point of shouting SEE THEY ARE LESBIANS DID YOU GET IT. It's stupid, I wouldn't know how to do it better, but I know there's got to be another way to do this. It feels unnecessary because you know ND and the rest of Naughty Dog are doing this to "subvert" expectations so they can make some sort of commentary how gamers are bigots and whatever
>>420418689Absolutely, these sex anims and lack of frontal nudity are awkward.
>>420424184>It spreads sexual desiaseThat's a fucking myth and you know it.
>>420424184What is your profession? Are you in a relationship with a member of the opposite sex? Do you have children?
just a reminder that being "gay" isn't a real thing
>>420424184Those are mostly sensible viewpoints. I assume you mean gay people shouldn't have special rights/privileges moreso than any other person, or do you mean they should be considered subhuman?
>>420418689Y, in the earlier GoWs it's was funny because the game was over the top, when people do it just for BOOBS it's stupid
>>420415707*kicks you in the balls*BACK THE FUCK OFF!?!?!?!??!???!?
>>420424392nigger theres a fucking outbreak of syphilis in manhattan right now because faggots on prep dont realize that there's more than one STD
If anyone who is actually a progressive paid attention, they'd hate this scene too. I fully believe one of the people who planned that trailer out intended for the kiss to have a revulsion effect to get some drama going for the game.
Thoughts? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j4t185wl-0This is video game related because I first heard it micspammed during a TF2 match.
>>420424184Not to mention in this specific case it serves no purpose other than push an agenda for the normalization of homossexuality, an agenda I don't agree. It also degrades the characters by making them degenerates. I, personaly, don't want to play as sexual degenerates.
>>420412432Religion, end of the world prophecies.
>Still shilling Sony's walking sim
>>420424828nig nog niggergot a problem, nigger?
I'm offended by how ugly the jewish girl is.Like holy shit, if you're going to give us a love interest let her be remotely appealing.It's like if the love interest in Witcher 3 was Uma.
>>420412432Sorry, I don't like people that smell bad.
>>420424935Since I won the argument, not really.
>>420424954>not lusting after the khazar milk
My sister is a lesbian and she is more bent out about it then me. She thinks ND ironically made a dumb decision by accompanying the scene with brutal and revolting violence in order to get a socially challenging rise out of the audience. If they were trying to normalize something taboo in their medium, they did the exact opposite by making that obnoxious comparison, intentionally or not.
>>420424935That's not how arguing works.
>>420417000No the game is about the old white guy but they got rid of him.
>>420425026prove that being a faggot doesnt dramatically increase your likelihood of getting an std
>>420425073Im almost positive your sister is right.
PDA is fucking gross and noone wants to see that shit, gay or straight. How about some fucking subtlety.
>>420417000It absolutely is about surviving the apocalypse. That is in the gameplay. You sneak around, run for cover and kill enemies. It is not a dating game. Main character being a dyke is not relevant to how the game is going to play. I already explained that the marketing is what I'm objecting to. If you want to make gay characters, do it. But when you make such a big deal about it and put it in front of everything else, this is the reaction you're going to get. I didn't get that lizards - stone - Grob shit.
>>420420960that dude in the bottom right is making the same exact face i made. not angry, just confused. why is this a focal point of the presentation? oh, right... we're fighting trump with our vidya. i forgot.
It's okay to be lesbians as long as they're pretty.these girls are ugly, ergo, it's wrong.
>>420425227The burden of proof isn't on me. And the other guy forfeited the argument by using inflammatory "words" so I win by default.
>>420424169I’m just bothered by the word propoganda. I don’t see how people see promoting the idea of people being equal openly is insidious. They aren’t trying to trick anyone. You might find it annoying or clunky, but there are people who do not consume media that requires less mental energy to process that might have their minds changed if a character they like is gay. They might wonder why this character is gay, and then they look up an interview with the creators, who say that they want to promote the idea that gay people are equal. If someone likes the game, they like a game made by someone who thinks gay people are equal, and the cognitive dissonance produced by that effect will either lead them to not play the game, or think that gay people should be equal. Frankly, if you’re the kind of person who would refuse to play a game because it was made by someone who supports gay people, then they probably didn’t make the game for you. If you’re be kind of person who does not enjoy meandering storylines and underwhelming third person shooting, the this game is not for you. I think that clunky storytelling and bad gameplay are valid complaints, but not a sign of a deep sjw conspiracy to destroy white men.
>>420425068I lust indeed,we could have done with a mommy gf.
i want to cum on those jewish eyebrows
I think Ellie's gf is pretty cute. I bet you whiners prefer dime a dozen slender blonde girls from bikini ads or whatever. What is there to say to that other than get some fucking taste, normies.
>>420412432I don't, I just hate how cartoonishly big that girls nose is. I saw the mocap actor and her nose isn't big at all, so someone had to deliberately render that shit in.
>>420425295This but ironically
>>420425394>And the other guy forfeited the argument by using inflammatory "words" so I win by defaultfucking kekimagine being so angry at a word you read onlineniggerdo something about it, faggot
>>420418689sexuality in media is almost always used as a crutch because the writers/designers are lazy and want to distract your brain with cumHorror films are especially bad about this. There's a fine line between using a naked woman to express a sense of vulnerability to the audience and having an actress whip out her giant fake tits because that's what the 18 year olds in the theater want to see. The former is understandable. The latter is insulting.
>>420425602>do something about it, faggotWhy do I need to?
>>420417547This homo gets it.
>>420424184You’re actually retarded for thinking that gay people don’t contribute to society and that making another fucking ape to be ground up by the system is an actual contribution. If you raise a child who is happy and successful then you have contributed a small piece to the world. Gay people can do that just as well as straight people.
>>420425295Nope, it's this >>420424290
>>420412432Why do I want uggos in video games?
>>420425737>something annoys him>doesn't even have the initiative to do something about ittypical weak willed faggot
>>420424169>On the noseKek
>>420424630>those trending topicswhy do people need to constantly be validated with this shit? who reads these bullshit sites thinking "yeah, i'm gay! awesome!!! gay is great!"? i dont give a shit if you're gay. i think you should be able to fist your boyfriend to sleep every night if it pleases you, but... you don't need to make cock-sucking your identity. >o hi, i'm anon. i'm a vegan, so... yeah>o hey, nice to meet you. i'm gaywhy
REEEEEE I HATE THIS FAGGOT SHIT*continues to jerk off to traps*
>>420417547thisI personally wanted to see a white guy getting brutally ass fucked by a big black gentleman of colorWould have been a much more powerful message
>>420425073Half of /v/ is gay, so the fact that most of /v/ is somewhat disgusted by this scene is proof that it's not just because it's a minority and we're all prejudiced.
>>420412432I didn't used to care but they won't fucking stop shoehorning faggotry into everything. Pride parades are also completely fucking degenerate.
>>420424392It's not a myth, and you know it. >>420424403Even If I answered your questions, would it really make a difference in an anonymous board? My point is still valid regardless of my personal life.>>420424598You assumed correctly in regards to rights, but what I meant is that gay indeed aren't normal people. It is clear that homossexuality is inherently unhealthy, thus it's comparable to a desiase or psychological/hormonal/physiological disfunction. The logical action to take in the face of a desiase is to find a cure, not normalize it, much less celebrate it.
>>420412432I could give less of a shit about who you love, but if you shove it in people's faces that "IT'S GOOD TO BE GAY" or "GUYS LOOK I'M GAY" is extremely obnoxious.
>>420412432No I hate Naughtydog for being hacks who gave up caring about making good games to instead give undue focus on the sexuality of their characters.
>>420418689It was pretty shit. Awkward nudity and animations. Cringed pretty hard during a couple of scenes. At least that shit wasn't in the gameplay trailers.
>>420425885It’s more like a dog ripping up a pillow. I’m annoyed that the dog has ripped up the pillow, but its not my job to train you.
>>420422442>I mean at the end of the day people are peopleHitler was people as well.
>>420425956if you need validation by a company then your life is meaningless and empty. Put two and two together anon
I have no problem with women kissing. So long as they're fucking hot. Why the fuck did they model these two to be so butt ugly? The brunette has a goddamn dude's face.
>>420425491>this is what a gay, fucked up brain thinks is a clever thing to post
>>420426032And afterward the black man lovingly kisses and caresses his lover and whispers make America great again
>>420417547What was there to this scene?
>>420423425>plenty of game announcements/trailers have included lengthy emotional/fee fee related cutscenesprove it>and no one gave a fuckprove itelse you're talking shit
>>420412432>Actress has milkers>Character model doesn't
>>420426145nah you just can't refute my argument>wahhhh he said a naughty word so I win>..i wish i had a daddy
>>420426074And what if those gay people are scientists? Or Engineers? Or doctors? I'm going to guess you contribute more to your nation because you can maybe have children one day.
>>420426158Hitler had some issues he needed to work out
>>420426258Supposed gameplay, which is very slightly more than nothing.
>>420426361there isn't a single "scientist" or "doctor" that has contributed anything of value to the world since 2010
>>420423749>to promote equalityhomosexual men and women always had equal rights, as citizens, to marry, have children or adopt as long as it was withinh a heterosexual unionthis is not about equality, this is about special rights
>>420412432I'm not buying your game Neil. I don't care for gays or lesbians, but I'm not going to stop them doing their own thing unless it intrudes on my own thing. I'm not here to look at lesbians making out, and what little of actual gameplay shown was the same shit that was in the first game. That leads me to believe your team spent more time with this pandering and "ally" signaling shit than the gameplay.and for the record, having Ellie start thinking about stabbing an old white man in the neck multiple times in a brutal fashion when she starts making out with a woman speaks volumes about who you are.
>>420426483Really? The doctors saving people's lives, the people of your nation that you seem to have ultimate loyalty to, isn't anything of value?What is your profession?
>>420412432I'm more offended that they're ugly lesbians than the fact that they're lesbians.
>>420426032>Would have been a much more powerful messagelel
>>420412432RETCONNED AND MUTTED
>>420426450>he needed to work outhis body was fine.
>>420426737this isnt real
>>420426887I think he may have had too much iron in his blood
>>420426323The best way to train dogs is through positive reinforcement. You losing an argument is negative punishment, and is therefore not an effective way to correct your behavior. I wish you the best in overcoming your tragic state ofaffairs.
>>420423749They didn't actually develop that platform. They infiltrated and made the platform shitty. It is kind of insidious. Promoting political ideas is propaganda. You may agree or disagree with the message, but it doesn't really matter. By the same logic I could claim that the game promoting racist ideas is not propaganda because those are just some values you disagree with.
WHY DO I HAVE TO WRITE 8 CAPTCHAS EVERY TIME
>>420426670I'm a physician doing my surgical fellowship, on my 5th year.All I see them do is infect retarded whores with birth control pills and give poor kids literal meth. Burdening someone with a $20k bill for a simple procedure I could do in 10 minutes if prep didn't take so long is criminal. We don't save lives.also I'm the same nigger poster kek
>>420412432>Why do you hate gay people and gay rightshmm its a mystery
>>420426737>one last timekek
>>420412432>the gay guy gets made fun of and made to look like a terrible person, with Ellie being a bitch and harassing himHuh... See, Bill was how you do a gay character right.Also I am surprised to see no one brought up him in the thread...
>>420412432I have nothing against gays but using "diversity" to make money while effectively brainwashing people is fucked.
>>420427180you fucking wish niggergo cry to plebbit about the mean bad words
>>420425415What you described is propaganda. It doesn't matter if you think the message is good.
>>420412432I have no problem with gay people and gay rights. I hate political propaganda in my videogames and virtue-signalling in general.
I wouldn't say I hate them, I just don't want anything to do with them. Every homo I've ever met in real life was very high strung, easily offended and if they ever got into a management position it was a power trip for them- they instantly thought they were god. Fags always insist that this doesn't count those are just flamboyant homos and I've met tons of gays who are just secret gays. But thats all bullshit.
>>420427524I'm sorry someone wore a wig and colourful clothing, that must have upset you greatly.
>>420427806I had a co worker like thatI'm 6'2, 220 lbs and have a beardhe obviously liked me and it culminated in him jumping in my lap once. I punched his tooth out and he ended up quitting.You really need to put them in their place
>>420427781>I have no problem with gay people and gay rights.When you mistakenly interpret an innocent display of girls kissing as "political propaganda", you clearly do have a problem with homosexuality. Acceptance is the first step of recovery.
>>420427717Bill was great. He was a bitter, paranoid, cantankerous old cunt that liked dick. Then when you find his partner hanged in a house you see him crack for just a moment before that hardened shell reforms. And yet nobody talks about Bill and OMG ELLIE BEST LESBIANS YAAAAASS QUEEEN.
>>420427806Yeah I've noticed that too. Sometimes you'll walk into some fucking fast food restaurant and see a manager who's clearly gay, and he'll think he's such top shit that he can even be rude to customers like he's Gordan Ramsey. Normal people don't usually act that way but gay guys do.
I'm against the existance of ugly people and their presence in media of any kind. Muh realism meme has got to go, I don't give a shit if men are fucking men or women are fucking women as long as they're hot.
>>420425415Having two gay people kiss isn't groundbreaking. It's normal and doesn't shock anyone except maybe your grandmother. The only reason that sort of publication pulls something like this is for the goodboy points. I can guarantee you that 90% of people don't give a shit that Ellie likes to munch the carpet. The reason they don't like it is that it's a completely unimportant story element shoehorned in to "promote diversity".On your first point, the definition of propaganda is as follows : "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view." Therefore, this is propaganda. It's not about telling a story, it's about imparting a moral on the player. That's what people don't like, being told what to think. Along the implication that they're bigots that need to be straightened out.I don't buy videogames to get the deep insight of some cali-born faggots on the need for inclusivity in post apocalyptic societies, I buy them to get good gameplay and a good story.The next question might then be how to keep that story element and make it good ? And that's fairly simple. Give it the amount of importance it deserves in the story. There was an openly gay character in TLoU1, and he was absolutely fine and decently written, because his love for dick was mentioned but not made to be a gigantic deal.
For how fucking long do we have to discuss this political shit? Why you don't go to fucking /pol/. Thats the please to talk about why gay shit is right or wrong. Enough of this kinda of fucking thread.
>>420412432There making games for the smallest fucking minority.
>>420427967thats just the start of ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=188IzLA4ZM0
>>420428346>sometimes gay people act like the heterosexual man gordon ramsay>but only gays ever do that!So this... is the power... of the alt-right.
>>420428248You fucking get it! Exactly! Also, that fucking note is pretty darn heart breaking when you find out his partner was going to leave him to pretty much die because he didn't like how paranoid Bill was...I really, really enjoyed Bill's character in the game... Then every other fucking second it was Ellie making a fucking crack at his weight or making "subtle" jabs at him being gay... FUCKING IRONIC!
>all this talk about the new TLOU2 trailer>I'm still precumming over the buff girl from the first trailer>no one has yet to find her irl model>fuck, who is she, she's hot
>>420412432I just hate kissingStop making sex I want to play my children's videogame
I don't care that they made Ellie out to be the saviour of mankind and they decided that she's an absolute dyke now. I hated the first one and the second one will be just as bad in my opinion.Anyone want my PS4?
>>420427757Let’s not pretend that words don’t have specific connotations informing their meaning. You know full well as I do that the word propoganda is 1) derogatory and 2) used to indicate that the message being presenting has sinister motivations. I’ve demonstrated how this new game does not have sinister motivations, but rather is openly motivated by a desire to promote equality. Since you understand the intent of the piece, then it is different from propaganda, which deliberately obscures the intent to mislead people.It’s not a matter of what I think is good or bad. It is a matter of whether or not the intent is clear.
>>420428570Point being that Gordon Ramsey earnt that right. Mr. McDonalds manager sure as shit didn't.
Damn. I thought they were just trying to portray that everything Ellie deeply cares for ends up getting killed in the end which fuels her drive to kill in turn. Not all this gay propaganda stirring.
>>420428189He interpreted it correctly. It wasn't innocent. It was there obviously to send a message. It is political propaganda. You just think it's OK, so it doesn't seem that way to you. The creators don't even hide the fact their games are political. You don't have to pretend you don't get it.
There is literally nothing wrong with jewish lesbian kissing in video games.
>>420412885Making sexuality a defining character trait. Its lazy writing, shallow, and a little insulting.
>>420428602I'm still mad that we got that shitty DLC with Ellie instead of the misadventures of Bill and Frank starring two bitter angry homos sniping at each other while killing mushroom people.
>>420428394nah, game developers stick this stuff in their games I say it's fair grounds. if you don't like the conversations it produces you should probably let those developers know!
>>420428840What is there to hide? Games, being made by people with ideas, biases and opinions, are inherently political and there is nothing wrong with that. But including a lesbian couple is not more political than making a game with only straight people.
>>420416252You'd better leave that happy kid alone you disgusting degenrate mutant.
>>420429029I would have fucking bought that in a heartbeat... That would actually have been really entertaining. Like, I mean it, Bill's dialogue was genuinely interesting.
>>420429172The sad truth is nobody would have bought it. Two gay dudes? No way. Two cute teenage lesbians? Take all my fuckin money
>>420429001Insulting to... You? A straight person?
>>420412432I don't hate gays I just don't understand why a zombie game needs to have the first major reveal of the game be around a kiss that segways into ultra violent gameplay. Big nose is like a demon or something because before she keeps talking like "THEY FEAR YOU" and "THEY'RE SCARED OF YOU" before she kisses Ellie.
>>420429302If anyone fears Ellie it's because they know Joel and they know she was trained by Joel. Joel's a scary motherfucker.
>>420429001His target demographic isn't exactly the brightest bunch.
>>420429287>Bill is most likely dead by the events of 2 because Naughty Dog are lazy pandering assholes
AM I STINKY, ELLIE?
>>420417113>I wanted something like "Life is Strange"Fucking this, really this is a moment that should have been saved for in the game when we give a shit about the relationship, not in a preview.They've blown their load to early
what happen to that black girl she made out with in that dlc or whatever?I thought interracial gays were much more progressive than white lesbos
>>420428737To you it doesn't. From someone's else's perspective, it does. You didn't demonstrate anything. Just your personal ideas of how society should function and what should be considered acceptable. I think putting gay stuff in action games is misleading. You want to sneak in your values under the disguise of a fun and violent game. That is pretty sneaky.
>>420412432To be honest i hate all games that feature any sexuality as its main attraction or is part of the main plot....If i wanted porn i would have gone to a porn web and i wouldn't have bought the game now would i?The reason i hate this shit in the pic is...because there is a zombie apocalypse going on and why the hell is two girls kissing more important than trying to save the human race from extinction!?
>>420427967Stop posting straight men, faggot.
>>420429583They both got bit. The black girl died, Ellie didn't. Did you not play the first game?
My response to the idea that this is propaganda.>>420428737>>420428370You have valid complaints about how hamfisted the writing is. But if you think that people should be equal, then you shouldn’t be opposed to artists and corporations openly promoting the idea. I simply do not understand how corporations and artists coming out and saying that their products promote a particular political viewpoint and then producing that products that align with that particular political viewpoint is the same as a government institution dispersing false information to promote behavior that benefits the government. The only reason a corporation benefits from equal rights is because everyone benefits from equal rights.
>>420429453Sure, but like why is big nose saying that while trying to put the moves on Ellie? It's fucking weird dialogue.
>>420429736nope never played the games at alljust remember /v/ was talking about the black chick that ellie kissed when it first came out
>>420429583the new girl's jewishthat one ups the black
>>4204124321% of the population is lesbian. Why are they such a disproportionate number of video game characters? Mathematically speaking only 1 in 50 female characters in video games would be a lesbian.
>>420429649If I was an anime character and Last of Us was weeb shit I'd tell you that the future is worth fighting for to see cute girls doing lewd things to each other.
>>420418846I just like romances in general the genders don't matter I just think it's nice
>>420412432The threads probably over, but you do realize the difference between female homosexuality and male homosexuality. If Ellie were cast as a boy who was a young gay male protagonist this game would be a disaster. The media would shun it, and Naughty Dog along with Sony would have a hard time recuperating their hemmoraging customer base fragmented by how much they’ve strayed from their target audience. Hence, Ellie is a white female homosexual because this exact combination is just the right amount of social progression to not offend anyone too much and at the same time expand theit customer base into lesbians. Understand that it will be several years before this level of pandering caters to male homosexuals or even transgenders featuring them as protagonists or main characters in our games. The reason why female homosexuality is viewed somewhat acceptable now is that many people believe lesbians aren’t real and that homosexuality for women is just a phase, and that once they get tired of women they can always go back to men and once more be fully accepted into society. Not exactly the same environment that male homosexuals or transgenders face.Me personally, it’d be more acceptable if it wasn’t so forced. This is Sony saying to the world, “Hello gamers worldwide! We want you to play our games because they feature a progressive roster of characters! Be sure to buy the Day 1 DLC pack for TLoU2 only $39.99!”Gaming was actually good when developers focused on the gameplay, then graphics, then story where it had to be constructed around progressive characters. Now gaming companies focus on the opposite of what I just said as that is the exact formula to reeling in the short-attention span customer base that games like Fortnite have by the balls.TL;DR Social progression in video games is only acceptable if it isn’t a forced agenda used to make a game more marketable.
>>420429860Well that's how Ellie found out she was immune. They both got bit and they kissed because they decided to be together in life and shroomy undeath and then the black girl fucking ate it super hard then Ellie was all sad.
>>420429142In today's climate, making a game with strictly straight characters might be considered as such. I didn't say they have something to hide. I said they are open about their political agenda. They use propaganda tools to promote their politics. Because of that, a gay kiss is not just a kiss. Take that as you will.
>>420429912because guys like lesbians and find them hot. Just look at how many otaku games coast almost entirely on yuri like anything idea factory puts out.
>>420425836This is a lie. It is statistically proven that the best enviroment to raise children is in a traditional household. Even children adopted by straight parents demonstrate,statistically speaking, disadvantages to children raised by their biological parents. The case of children raised by single parents is even worse, they are statistically more likely to be disfunctional in some way. As for homossexual parenthood, it is grounded on the premisse that the sex roles (husband/wife, father/mother) are socially constructed and have no bases in biology.But this is a lie. The roles of the sexes are as much of a result of evolutionary biology as it is a result of the process of civilization. Therefore, it is an interchangeable process.The implication of such a reality is that homossexuals can't actually play the roles of the opposite sex in parenthood because they are not biologicaly designed as such, and children know this. The consequences of this in children can and will be devastating, as it is psychologicaly confusing.As for the case of social purpose:Even if a handful of gay people are, let's say, scientists, these same individuals will not pass their genes to the next generation, thus eliminating what could be a superior line of genes that generate inteligent individuals. Thus, homossexuality is a genetical dead end and, evolutionarily speaking, ilogical.The great majority of gays will be disfunctional citzens by nature of their own deviancy; they will end up attacking traditional social institutions such as the nuclear family and religious tradition, which are essential to a nation's identity, as it can be seem by the actions of LGBT organizations. Not only this, they will attack and deny any scientific, historical or religious topics that may imply their lifestyle is unhealthy. Even if a handful of gay people are against such organizations, majority of them will be degenerates, thus the behavior can't be normalized
I'm gay and I'm fed up with them using my sexuality as the most important thing about a character. In addition, the propaganda against heterosexual white men is obvious: after the kiss the first thing we see is the murder of a white man. Now I understand why lesbians are so hated in the LGBTIMRETARDED community
>>420412432Homosexuality is a perversion and is bad for society. It’s an assault on the nuclear family, spreads disease, causes gender confusion, leads to further sexual perversions, and is unhealthy. The last point being illustrated by the large increases of depression, suicide, drug use, and pedophillia within the homosexual community. This type of behavior shouldn’t be encouraged
>>420430198I'll take that as you (and the guy you're defending) have huge issues with homosexuals. I guess I'll just have to respect that, but I will never respect the "I have no problem with x but..." argument.
>>420419118white people in the sense that we are a global minority?why are blacks so gay?
>>420430226>because guys like lesbians and find them hotLesbians are cold, gross and ugly and men do not like them. Men love bisexual women because they are easy and still want men to find them attractive.
>>420426361The harm that gays as a collective cause in society can't be undone by any good deed some of their representants can do.If a gay is a scientist, good, he is useful in DESPITE of being gay. His homossexuality per se does not contribute for nothing, and if he was straight he would pass his genes to the next generation. Thus, the simple fact of being straight is better.As for me, I already have children.
>>420412432Because they aren't playing to their setting or regions properly.>Apocalypse>Most of the city dwellers were annihilated first (and that's a good thing)>Most survivors come from rural or outskirts of cities>Species is in danger of extinctionThese are all agreeable yes? No subversion, just simple facts on display.Gays make up a statistically small amount of the population, Jewish Americans make up about 2% of the total population, and both are primarily found within cities.Finding a single lesbian is a statistical improbability. Finding 2 lesbians in the same community and are a happy couple is winning the lottery. Finding the previous and one is Jewish is winning the lottery and then getting hit by lightning. It's not happening, even with a maxed out luck stat.Reality check would be finding a single white gay male whom is likely lonely because statistically that's the highest chance you've got by a significant margin.Same shit applies to TV
>>420429639But it’s not sneaky when all of their promotional material and all of the interviews with the developers of the game actively promote this particular viewpoint. It seems to me like you are suggesting that they made this game to trick people who hate gay people into enjoying the game and liking gay people by association. But what I’m telling you is that if someone truly hates gay people on principle, then the game has clearly made it so that people who hate gay people would be unable to enjoy the game. If they wanted to trick people who hate gay people into liking gay people, then they should have released the game, had the character’s sexuality not be brought up at all, and then after everyone enjoyed the game, told everyone the character was gay. But they didn’t. Instead, they are deliberately making it so people who hate gay people cannot enjoy their game. How effective they are at making an enjoyable game or a good story or anything is not related to this particular intent that they have openly communicated. And my point following that is that because I think people who hate gay people have bad taste, then they’ll be forced to choose between their shitty taste in political opinions, or their shitty taste in games. This process of being forced to choose is what is supposed to motivate social change, not this idea that they’re trying to trick you.
>>420420960lmao the actual jew there in the middle doesnt like it
>>420430475Not him but it’s a natural biological response to have “issues with homosexuals” https://www.google.com/amp/www.psypost.org/2017/06/straight-mens-physiological-stress-response-seeing-two-men-kissing-seeing-maggots-49217/amp
>>420430834But what is more human than to overcome our baser instincts?
>>420423749>promoting values>not propaganda>Propaganda I agree with isn't propaganda!
>>420412545Yeah, it's not convincing that it's not just being used to market a product, similarly to those who find Pride events washed out. Not too many people like seeing demographics used this way - It's tiresome and boring, very lazy. Those who do are a small crowd of people who enjoy being able to self-proclaim how progressive they are, despite being a major force for the toxicity of tribalism in many cases. I am gay and I find it more homophobic to enjoy "gayness" and assuming it's more than how boring and neutral it really is. The most progressive thing someone can do for me personally is to crack jokes, ask questions, and not really cater around how *special* I am.
>>420430718As long as you can think that a gay person isn't inherently without value then I don't have a problem with you.
>>420429796>you shouldn’t be opposed to artists and corporations openly promoting the idea.I'm not, but when it's the biggest thing you put forward during your game's presentation, the literal finale, it says something about the quality of the writing. If this was a dating sim game, or even just a slice of life I would honestly not care, but this is a big overarching apocalyptic story about the fate of the world resting on this one girl's shoulders.>corporations and artists coming out and saying that their products promote a particular political viewpoint and then producing that products that align with that particular political viewpoint is the same as a government institution dispersing false information to promote behavior that benefits the government.Well, propaganda in itself isn't required to come from the government. It's just the promotion of an idea. Most, if not all, advertising is propaganda. People know it, and therefore tend to show an innate distaste for it. Hence the negative reaction that followed this reveal. At least that's my theory on it.>everyone benefits from equal rights.I absolutely agree, and so does america and most of the western world. There's no law saying gay people can't make out at parties. And therefore there's nothing particularly brave about it either. Thus my point. This isn't fighting anything, except maybe implied homophobia in the hobby. Something we've got no real proof of. It's just useless from a narrative standpoint.
>>420425415>>420428737You're presupposing the validity of your worldview to arrive at the conclusion that it isn't propaganda. That's where you misunderstand things.You define 'propaganda' (which isn't spelt propoganda) in terms of feeling and then use subjective feelings to determine something isn't propaganda. The world simply can't and shouldn't operate like that.
>>420430951Our baser instincts kept us alive for centuries. It’s also the reason we aren’t attracted to animals and dead bodies
>>420430475I'll come out and say it, dude. I do have an issue with them. I think they should have equal rights under the law and have no interest in policing their sex life, but I also don't have to think their lifestyle is healthy or useful to society. From my perspective, this was pure propaganda. I get how you don't see it that way.
>>420430729stop using logic bigot
>>420431280>I'll come out and say it, dude. I do have an issue with them.Good on you. Now you can work on it when you're ready.
>>420412807>I am gay. This is gay exploitation for profit under the veneer of social justice.Well at least you fags are smarter than the niggers
>>420430970I should mention, I wouldn't want to spend my time getting angry over how something is represented. It's nice enough things changed to include characters that are gay. It was a process for the past decade, though it would be nice if writing revolves around individualism over someone's sexuality. No matter how a character is written, nobody likes one dimensional characters. Make them have a personality, flaws, goals, whatever.
>>420431259Some instincts and base urges are useful, others not so much. You could say war, violence, rape, general inhumanity is quintessentially human, but those are things we try to limit in our modern society. And I think we all agree we're better for it. Being mean to homos doesn't make them go away (or they'd be long gone by now), but it makes society meaner and colder for all us. It's time we overcame this.
>>420430113>but you do realize the difference between female homosexuality and male homosexualityiirc, even in islam lesbians are treated better than gay men
>>420427430>surgical fellowship>time to shitpost on 4chinsyou lie
>>420412432that nose keeps getting bigger each time i see this image
>>420412432Because those bitches are lesbians only to fill an agenda, just imagine if every game with gay characters on it was marketed with them kissing, you don't need it, a gay or a lesbian will play the game regardless of that if he/she likes games, you won't magically make people that don't care about games interested just because you put a bunch of faggots on screen, and this shit behavior is the main reason why shit like andromeda exists
>>420431661>but it makes society meaner and colder for all usMakes society better for children to not have men dancing around in leather thongs at a pride parade. Makes society warmer and nicer for children when we can laugh at pedophiles talking about how they need to educate toddlers about consent.Makes society nicer for degenerates who could be made to believe they want anything when we throw out all standards and expectations though.
>>420430729>Apocalypse>The jew on a stick religion no longer dominates the world, thus being gay is no longer shamed>Society has degraded so you no longer ave anything to gain by virtue signaling as someone who hates gays.>Get horny one day and start fucking the nearest hole>That hole happens to be same sex.>Feels good man.Simple logic indeed. Theres a reason you had gay radiers as far back as Mad Max
>>420432081Children love Prides what are you talking about?
>>420431661Whether those inhuman acts are base instincts is debatable. Regardless, not celebrating or normalizing homosexuality is the healthy response to it. There is nothing good or useful that comes from homosexual acts. There’s plenty of societal ills that come from it however
>>420430304Since you’re making a bunch of claims about science and facts, then provide a source for all of your claims. Here’s my source: in my personal experience, nobody is equipped to raise a child well. The family unit is insufficient for producing a decent, empathetic person. Children ought to be raised by a group of people, so that the particular neuroses of a parent of two parents are not passed down onto a child. Ever notice how mental illness travels down a family line? Even if you don’t think gay people should raise children, you can’t deny that in a traditional family unit, a gay couple can provide resources and support that a heterosexual couple with children could not provide. This is actually my case. I live on a farm with my boyfriend and my family. I help my aunt with childcare and driving her children. I put money towards running the vineyard. I’m very empathetic towards everyone. My whole life children, and even babies, have been drawn to me. I love children and I guarantee that even though I’m a man, I could have greater natural tendency to care about children than my own mother, who used her position in our social structure to demean me sexually and emotionally. Now, this is just an anecdote. It should be really easy to refute.
>>420431791>iirc, even in islam lesbians are treated better than gay menwomen have no agencythey are like childrenassuming otherwise leads to chaos>>420431385You're a good troll. I applaud your performance.
>>420432164If you think that a pride parade is an appropriate place for a child then you are beyond saving
>>420430226Men love when there are two hot girls making out with each other specifically to get their attention and make their cocks hard, but men hate lesbian relationship and ugly lesbians because it's so useless and senseless.The reason some weebs like yuri is as mentioned above. Yuri games destined for male audiences are heavy in fanservice, full of hot girls. Anyway, personaly, I believe such weebs have long passed the limits of health masturbation habits. It's no wonder they are into all kinds of japanese perverted shit, from yuri to traps and gender bender.Therefore, they do not really represent men as a collective.
>>420432085>this amount of delusionsomehow it makes sense for you people to yammer on about internalized racism/sexism/homophobia, but once society collapses, yeah man all that stuff just goes away maaaaaan and then we can be free maaaaaaaan.
>>420432085So.. Did you just entirely miss the point or what?>>420432164>Children, who don't know how the world works, love when their parents overexpose them to sexuality and demand positive reactions from themIt's like the story about the boy wearing dresses. The mom still buys the dresses, the mother still sends the boy to school in them, and the mother is very, very adamant about how he totally did it aaaall by himself and it was absolutely his choice. At age 6. When he doesn't understand how the world works and doesn't even have the major hormones differentiating boys from girls.Well it isn't his choice when you buy the dresses leave them out for him and then only give him positive attention when he wears them.
>>420412432OP is a faggot
>>4204124321. Gay lifestyle is unhealthy and horrible, yet homosexual relationships are always (falsely) depicted as healthy, monogamous, loving, straight relationships only with people of the same sex.2. Gay community promotes terrible values3. Homosexual sex is unnatural (as in disordered from the purpose of sex, reproduction). Then there is the promotion of the myth that homosexuals can't enter healthy, straight relationships, but that's a slightly different can of worms.
>>420432182>a gay couple can provide resources and support that a heterosexual couple with children could not provide.Not him but so can foster care and a single parent. It’s not a question of resources. Rich kids can still turn out bad. And children in foster care and single family homes statistically have a much larger likelihood of bad results later in life such as poverty, drug use, prison etc. Gay parents will always be missing either a mother or father figure which is natural and the best way to raise a child. Forcing children to be raised by homosexuals is an injustice to the children
>>420432716>you peoplebut im straight anon
>>420430759They promote it that way because they aren't targeting people who hate gays. They are targeting people who don't really care that much about the issue, and just want to play an action survival game. They aren't there because they want to see dykes kissing, they're there because they want to kill people and sneak around. It is just this process of normalization. You're not making a game about being gay. You're making a game about doing interesting stuff and passively watching a character being gay. You don't have a choice. If you want to play games, you have to endure the propaganda. That's how it works. You said it yourself. You speak of motivating social change, but refuse to call it propaganda.
>>420433212social liberalsnot fags
>>420432787Children mostly think what adults tell them. You're just worried they'll find out that gays are nice people before your kind gets to tell them otherwise.
>>420418689No because it's not degenerate and heterosexuality encourages the survival of the species.
>>420425686I actually hate this shit, you can't see any TV show without 10 seconds of pornography thrown around every half hour.
>>420433558>gays are nice peopleExcept gays have orgies and fuck everything they can, some of them even fuck women spreading diseases to normal people.
I hate it when its fucking Ugly.
>>420433558You think this is appropriate for children huh? Says a lot about you
>>420413374Because none of these people actually like video games and wish they were making movies instead, Kojima excluded as he seems to be attempting to elevate games in the public square. Most AAA Cinematic experiences feel like bad made for tv movies.Also that bitch is ugly as sin, and they put it right in your face. No one wants to watch an ugly actor, for some reason we can accept this, but for some reason devs cant accept people dont want to look at ugly computer models either.
>>420433558Gays alone can be nice people. Its their groups and 'communities' that are bad.
>>420432182>American educationWhat I said is a topic of high school level. Even if you don't believe in the statistics I mentioned (which you can find through google) the claims I did are mainstream knowledge, you can judge it by the inherent logic of the statements grounded on evolutionism, which I believe you are you (or should be) familiar with. As for the anecdotal evidence, I could give you several more examples about how homossexuals harm family enviroment and specially children.But this will lead nowhere, we have no means to know if we are just making up stories. If you want to argue, use logic.
>>420433436Wrong again, I'm apolitical. You're bad at this game anon.
>>420433994The act of homosexuality is bad as well
i dont like to see people happy
Give me a minute, I'll make a pic to kill every thread like this.
>>420433039Someone's read too much propaganda.
>>420434383those are just common sense anon.
>>420433039>*Sips Soda*>*Stuff another big mac into his face*>*lights up a cigarette*>"IDIOT THE GAYLIFE STYLE IS UNNATURAL AND UNHEALTHY>*breath heavily*>*Goes back to watching Game of Thrones for six hours straight*
>>420433558you seem to be operating under the assumption that the homosexual lifestyle is a viable alternative to the heterosexual(read: normal) lifestyle.It is not. Your feels don't mean jack shit in the face of natural selection. The attempted propagation of your species is the bare minimum effort you can put forward as a living organism on this planet to even try for a win at the game of life, yet fags have rejected it.That statement alone says more about them on a metaphysical level than need be. They are broken. They are misfits. They are estranged from the very base nature of life itself. They are alien to the average person of today, let alone the average person of 50, 100, or 200 years ago. The celebration of the broken is a vice. It's about time people start understanding that, because as of right now society is just being pulled top down in any which way the money flows.
>>420433881The black kid sums it up pretty well.
>>420434768Oh, so you're gonna fat shame bears too? How awful.
>>420419118To be fair a disabled black female transgender lesbian has like a +10 oppression multiplier.
>>420416252>glad you posted a picture of yourself
>>420434978>implying I don't play Bastards Bonds on the regs.
>>420412432both are ugly dykes.
>>420430759>>420431256>>420431151I think we might actually agree here. Are you saying that this is not actually significance in terms of representation? I agree with that. They could make a much stronger point and actually risk something. But I still think there’s something to the idea that there are people who may have enjoyed the first Last of Us, possibly to a great degree, who now have to choose between holding on to a political opinion the developers find destructive, or letting go of that opinion and enjoying the game. Given that Ellie has been a lesbian since the DLC, and the first game has a gay character, then this seems to me to be the actual intent of the developers. Using something people enjoy to shape their opinions is propaganda. But I am arguing that the developers here are trying to exclude people who dislike gay people on principle, which is different. I don’t think that there is a dialogue here in the sense that they’re trying to convince people who hate gay people to stop hating gay people.>>420434006Sorry, but you made claims and now you need to support them with evidence. I made a claim and supported with the evidence of my anecdote. I actually deliberately made it extremely easy to make your point. All you have to do is provide one ounce of evidence to support your claim.. I actually don’t think something being a product of evolution is a good argument. Cancer is a product of evolution. Should we hold onto that too? If family relationships are as destructive as cancer, then it doesn’t matter if it’s natural. I’m saying that a family unit is no guarantee of success. A guarantee of success is actively applying the principles of good parenting, which I’m saying can be done by anyone.You’re saying that no man has the tendency to raise a child. You’re saying that a family unit is essential to producing a healthy child. I have child rearing tendencies. My uncle’s children are better supported by my partner and I.
>>420433580condoms exist, anon
>>420434890Man you can see in his face how his homosexual family forced him to go there
>>420434768>its another episode of a SEETHING yuro nigger getting mad that someone doesnt share their beliefs
>>420434063labels are applied to you by others as well as by yourself. You argue the same terms as a liberal for the same reasons as a liberal. As well, what exactly do you think 'liberal' means? hyper-political? Shit literally means freedom. It's anarchy. Know who doesn't give a fuck about politics? Feral creatures who exist in an anarchic state of being.
>>420434383There’s that projection
>>420415707>no actual reasoning(You)
>>420433558Most gays are actually really dangerous to children, as they are obsessed with sex. Anyone obsessed with sex is dangerous for children, gay or not.
>>420435413and the dlc was an ass pull toowhere is joel even?
>>420435276hate speech isn't simple beliefs, anon, it's literally hate speech
>>420435586same place he is in the main game during that time, are you retarded?
Why is every gay moment pandering? Every time a gay character doesn’t do any gay shit you guys say it’s just for diversity points and anytime they do shit you say it’s too much in your face and pandering towards them. People are gay, they do gay shit just like straight people do straight shit. It’s really not complicated
>>420434817>The attempted propagation of your species is the bare minimum effort you can put forward as a living organism on this planet to even try for a win at the game of life, yet fags have rejected it.How do you win?
>>420435658>saying that homosexuals are promiscuous degenerates that is unnatural, unhealthy and harmful to people is hate speechreally activates my almonds dudedid you know the gay community calls HIV "the gift?" really natural and healthy thinking
>>420434817If natural selection had any relevance in this matter, gays would be long gone.
>>420435783almost everyone on /v/ have suddenly started thinking that every little thing has some secret agenda, started happening the same time they started pretending they understand politics.
I'm bi and I don't care about homosexuals or even heterosexuals in cutscenes because sexuality has jackshit to do with gameplay mechanics
>>420435669nah im talking in the sequeldid they just kill him off screen?
>>420435231condoms can be taken off anon
>>420436096he showed up in the announcement trailer, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and say that he's just taking it easy in some settlement these days.
>>420435413No-one played the DLC.
>>420412432because they aren't even hot, come on look at that goblin
Can any of you filthy mutts can explain how the fuck did you allowed faggots to gain so much momentum?, you shit is starting to infect my country already
>>420435783Not like the current socio-political climate has nothing to do about it.Its not even hard to spot the supposed agenda of the developers. Faggots bitch at straight "sexualized" themes in games the other side can do the same.
>>420412545This. Also,>and gay rightsHaving a fag in a video game isn't "rights". What's rights is being able to fuck/have a relationship with another of the same sex free from harm. Fags have already got that, we live in the safest, best times for homosexuals. They should just be happy they're not being actively beaten or worse, having attempts made on their life. If it were my way, I wouldn't even let gays hold hands in public, I look at it as this - Anything that strays off the path of function (heterosexuality), shouldn't be made illegal, however, it shouldn't be legal for you to engage in dysfunctional behavior in public. You can do what you wish within your own home but outside of that, no.
>>420435995People give it so much more attention than it needs. Seems the people who don’t want it to have attention give it all the attention. It’s just a gay kiss. Nice to see , but honestly is nothing else. They just blow it out of proportion
>>420435276>The seething cop outSure you don't want to tell me go back to rebbit while you're at it. Its what your kind always do when they have no argument.
>>420436412Yeah mine too. Social media is a fucking cancer. Dumbfuck shitheads are talking about muttland issues like it has any relevance here.
>>420436554if it was my world i would split the world and have a portion of it be a wasteland for non violent deviants
>>420436554What is functional about heterosexuality? Single mothers aren’t made by lesbians
They don't actually care. They are just being edgy on an anonymous whatocean stone carving forum.
>>420436664Its an ugly gay kiss.
Yes I totally believe you guys whining about the lesbian kiss for days now aren't upset and I totally believe you're okay with gays when its not forced.
>>420436537What agenda? Someone just had a gay character. It doesn’t affect the straights, isn’t going to start a gay revolution. Why does the tiniest amount of lgbt representation trigger the masses? What do you think it’s gonna turn the world gay?
>>420436870Production of human beings maybe? Are you retarded by any chance?
>>420437002What good is producing humans
>>420436947>the tiniest amount of lgbt representationNow youre just being a stupid nigger on purpose for attention. Heres your (you)
>>420435986Natural selection is why gays make up less than 3% of the population
>>420412885That it had no connection to the rest of the presentation on the game, which was stuff people actually wanted to see about the game, yet took up a huge amount of their time slot.
>>420433994Pretty much how I see that someone can be gay, but not a faggot like you see at a pride parade.
All LGBT movements are pedophile rings.
>>420437002Theyre all mentally ill faggot. dont bother, their brains are literally BROKEN
>>420412769>cute lesbians are disgusting
>UM ACKSHULLY I DON'T HATE GAYS THIS IS ABOUT THE BETTERMENT OF HUMANITY, IF EVERYONE WAS GAY HUMANITY WOULD DIE OFF!
>>420437091Leave it to you conservative drama queens to make a constant minority of completely benign people a huge fucking problem you can never let go.
>>420437038You'll understand the importance in a few decades once sex dolls become perfect enough
>>420436937>Comment that having women and blacks in battlefield is historically in accurate>/pol/ uses this as a platform for hate speech instead of genuine discussion.>Comment that having two women kissing being the selling point of your game is a bizzare move>/pol/ uses this as a platform for hate speech instead of genuine discussion.
>>420437253You’ve been conditioned to like lesbians. Stop watching porn
>>420437321Hmm so if I produce 20 humans then am I more good than someone who produces 2?
>>420437218They must have learned from the catholic church
>>420437312Then why are such a constant minority being shoehorned into so many forms of media these days? Why do we have a pride month now for such a constant minority?
>>420436870>What is functional about heterosexuality?The fact it produces offspring, it continues us as a species. Homosexuality can't do that.
>>420415150Got a source on that study? Sounds like a good read.
>>420437334Views you don’t agree with aren’t hate speech purple hair
>>420437469Doesn't mean I cant hate you as well.
>>420436915There’s been ugly straight shit too. Not that i think this is ugly, but just saying
>>420437554Heterosexuality produces offspring? I though sex produced offspring...
This is why people hate faggots, for doing shit like this Not because they are gay, but because they are faggots >New California Law Reduces Penalty for Knowingly Exposing Someone to HIVhttps://archive.fo/DvX9V>Meet the 10-year-old drag kid shaping the future of drag youthhttps://archive.fo/vez3W
>>420418970TLOU has always partly been about individuals, this is part of Ellie's character. It's also something not often seen in video games at all, they are clearly standing out with this scene. It's not politics, it's comon sense. Also it's hot. Every straight man's reaction should be the same as Aris's.
>>420437439Europe will need that in a few decades if they don't want their average population age in their fifties based on current data, so yes, and producing 1 is better than producing Zero
>>420437439For a country like Japan absolutely
>>420437078How many games have straight relationships in it? You get a game with just one lesbian character and you all lose your shit
>>420437524Because it still triggers you. When your ilk stops caring there won't be much point of it.
>>420412432>Why do you hate gay people and gay rightsI am not a fan of suicidal people.
>>420437815So you’re saying that in some contexts producing children is good, but in other contexts producing children is not good?
>>420437715>...No need to write like a passive agressive faggot in an anonymous imageboard
>>420437763This.>Oh no, two girls kissing in my video game!They're both cute, they aren't obvious man hating lesbos with short coloured hair and butch faces. They're pretty girls, kissing. Nobody on this planet would object accept for small-minded, paranoid reasons because they are politically occupied rather than focused on enjoying a game.
>>420433821>see HIV commercial>everyone in it is gay or some transfag
>>420437334No shit dude, I think its hilarious that there are people trying to post shit about "Um I don't actually mind gays I just never want to see them" in between posts of GAS ALL FAGGOTS; I hope people are aware of what people on their side of the argument feel. They already lost the marriage debate and now they're just impotently whining on /v/.B
>>420412432I don't hate gays.I just think the fight for gay rights and everything gay related should stay where it should - pride festivals, gay bars and other places gays can go to be among themselves.
>>420437960No production of human life is always good
>>420438018You better be careful. One more reply without an argument and I’ll be satisfied by our exchange
>>420437825its there was literally more time spent on their bullshit cutscenes then gameplay. show where the developers heads are at, game is guaranteed shit
>lefty makes political non video game thread>not instantly deleted>460 replies
>>420437524Because you chimp out at it nonstop? Its like when people ask why Pride month is still a thing before complaining that gays are too public.
>>420437871So fags are inserted into every form of media just to piss people off who have the option of buying said media. Sure that makes sense
>>420438176So if I produced a baby and then killed it, that would be good?
>>420415150You are correct. Trannies need medicine, but homosexuality isn't a mental condition.>lol the jew part
>>420431903i have a 3 day long vacation and I'm going to spend the whole time on here
>>420438281>implying this is a bad thing He is getting destroyed left and right and probably already left the thread
>>420438362What would be the point of producing it just to kill it? That doesn’t make any sense
>>420438458>>420438281I'm sure you can make a thread whining about the kiss and hate it last 500 posts, its been happening all week.
>>420433903>Kojima excludedLol no
>>420412432>Why do you hate gay people and gay rights, and why do you let it affect your enjoyment of a game featuring them? Please, no gay lovers post in this thread. Only the haters. I want to hear their thoughts.I am fucking tired of having gay acceptance pushed everywhere, there was a time when we didn't hear about them, now every goddamn games needs to push homosexuality on us.
>>420438330Point is that they will have to keep doing it until you learn. You had the chance to be a nice individual who just accepts gays because it's the sensible thing to do, but since you resist they'll have to wear you down until you accept that you lost. And you lost a long time ago, it's just your stubbornness that's making you lag behind.
>>420438483But I thought that producing life was always good
>>420417365I'm not homophobic. I just don't like ugly dykes in my games. If these bitches were hot I guarantee the backlash wouldn't be as severe.
>>420438213We are not exchanging anything, this is my first reply to you, just pointing out the passive agressive faggotry, you are not in real life, there isn't any social standard to protect, speak like a fucking man, this is maybe the only place where you don't have to wotry about being censored by your words, so use it
>>420438657They can try but they’re going against natural law so they’ll lose in the end.Article related https://www.google.com/amp/www.psypost.org/2017/06/straight-mens-physiological-stress-response-seeing-two-men-kissing-seeing-maggots-49217/amp
>>420438654>every goddamn gameSure anon, sure.>>420438745>if they were hot I wouldn't mind!>if it were forced I wouldn't mind!You people have zero argument and have to argue hypotheticals.
>>420413389>when you realize the girl is actually a self-insert oc character so that degenerate kike can claim ellie as his waifu and cuck the entire playerbase.
>>420416252>retard doesn't know sammy
>>420412758THANK YOU. I agree 100%.
>>420438726And I asked what would be the point of producing a life just to destroy it. To which you have no response. You’re welcome to try again
>>420435193>Sorry, but you made claims and now you need to support them with evidence.Anecdotes are useless if you can just make them up in an anonymous board. Thus, you confirmed nothing. I can give you a link ot two such as this: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kids-of-gay-parents-fare-worse-study-finds-but-draws-fire-from-experts/Or this: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-1027-goldberg-family-structure-20151027-column.htmlOr this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-JBBydNIO8But I have no time to search for studies before the thread ends. You can get a lot of information and sources by asking them on /pol/. A lot of homossexuals go there and do this.I will refrain myself from giving my anecdotes because they are useless here. > If family relationships are as destructive as cancer, then it doesn’t matter if it’s natural. I’m saying that a family unit is no guarantee of success.There's no such a thing as guarantee of sucess in this world. What matters is what is historicaly sucessfull, what is more lilely to succeed and what isn't. We are here right now, right? As opposed to the child of homossexual couple that cannot happen, we are here as a product of natural sexual intercourse. We live in a highly advanced civilizational stage largely thanks to the monogamous family unity raised under christian times, as opposed to polygamous sexual liberty of pagans.
>>420439237>You can get a lot of information and sources by asking them on /pol/. A lot of homossexuals go there and do this.lol
>>420438867Gays have the support of everyone who matter all over the western world and you have this article. Hm.
I hate gay people.
>>420439034That’s what I’m saying. The goodness of producing a life depends on the context that life is produced in, and there is no inherent value in heterosexuality because there is no inherent value to motivating people to produce offspring. The motivation to produce offspring is the reason our society exists, but it not the structure binding our society together. The motivation to produce offspring creates people who can turn into a drug addict just as well as they can turn into a doctor.
>>420439372But /pol/ as staunch allies - Muslims and Africans!
>>420439372Who are these people that matter lol?
>>420439480>there is no inherent value in heterosexualitySomeone literally thinks this and is actually serious.What a world we live in.
>>420416146Exactly. TLOU2 is a story-heavy stealth murder simulator. An equivalent game would be something like Splinter Cell or possibly the new Tomb Raider games. Imagine the very first reveal of a new Splinter Cell or Tomb Raider game starting with several minutes of awkward, young adult hetero flirting at a dance. WTF?
Your kind are parasitic and malevolent. There is no reasoning with you clowns. Kys
>>420439653Uncharted 4 already did this, retard.
>>420439618What he meant is, youre ruining the planet with overpopulation.
>>420439653Sounds like you don't understand juxtaposition.
It's not pandering to LGBT. It never was, it never will be. They specifically chose female lesbians because there is not a single entity more hateful towards white males than feminist white lesbians.It's not an opinion, you only have to look at where it comes from. They don't mean to give you a boner, they want to chop your fucking dick off.Pass on this pic to obliterate any further discussion on the matter.
>>420439751SAME COMPANY, YOU MONG
>>420440118No shit, how does that change anything? You have heterosexual kisses all the time and you retards never chimp out like this, so your argument of KISSES ARE ALWAYS INAPPORPRIATE is garbage.
>>420438657What a pretentious comment. Nobody can fight against nature. What will happen is the following: >everyone will accept homossexuality. As culture, tradition and values degrade as a result, civilization will eventually collapse.Everyone loses.>A large group of people will continue to refuse to accept homossexuality and other kinds of "progressive" attempts to change society. The tension will eventually escalate to phisical violence, in which case you faggots will lose because we have all the guns and testosterone.>Lastly, in the long run, the only scenario in which fags can be happy is if they shut up and do their thing segregated from society, without attempts of normalization.
>>420439789And the solution is being gay? Is that what you tell yourself at night?, you're no better than /pol/tards who want to nuke all middle east
>>420412545>Gays shouldnt be allowed anything.
>>420435040crippled, fat black dykes are hard to come by.
>>420437715>Heterosexuality produces offspring?Yes. Not just sex, if that were the case, your kind would mystically be able to shit out a baby. I think its more accurate to say heterosexuality produces offspring, as its the only sexuality that can.
>>420440252>everyone will accept homosexuality. As culture, tradition and values degrade as a result, civilization will eventually collapse.Do you have any source for this? Also homosexuality has one s.
>>420439480>life >not inherently good The moral relativists have really done a number on you if you’re this far gone
>>420438913Oh yeah? Well you have zero rights.Boom.
you /pol/s realize this is literally a marketing tool to create buzz around the game right? they make it a huge deal by making you guys seem like crazy backwards homophobic racists sexists and it creates a storm on social media, generating free PR and buzz for the game. your constant shitposting is only contributing to the success of the game. if no one even gave a fuck and stopped talking about it the game would just fade from public memory and no one would give a fuck.
>>420439789you mean niggers, poos, and ching chongs are doing that.
>>420440327If it was genuine pandering, it'd be men. Women is too easy and it's an agenda that has nothing to do with LGBT.
>>420439237So to support your claims you have an op-ed piece, a controversial study published by a journal known for lacking rigorous peer review, and a YouTube video?This was the next step of my plan. Here is evidence more solid than any of those: http://www.apa.org/about/policy/parenting.aspx Now it’s your turn to provide strong evidence for you claims.
>>420423453Sen Scott Wiener has a career worth of stonewalling the FDA to only approve Trivuda Prep treatment.The company that manufactures Trivuda, Gilead Pharmicuticals has an exclusive agreement with the California Dept. Of Health to provide state-funded HIV medication.Fast forward last year, and the willful intent of spreading HUB has been basically decriminalize on the basis of "gee golly willikers there is treatment now, guess we should treat HUB like the flu."We are basically DEVS EX.
>>420440425I can get married to my boyfriend, though. I don't live in a thirdworld shithole so I'm pretty good over here, good view of /pol/ getting mad at everything like an impotent baby.
>>420440382So if life is inherently good, then it would be better to produce a baby every year and kill it, than to produce one good life?
>>420440538Won’t change that your sexual choices are a perversion
>>420439480>the fag says life as no value since he cant produce it himselfDo us all a favor and hang yourself from the nearest lamp post.
>>420440470Thats true, but that isnt what he said in the post. Lesbians pander to straight males, yes, but gay male pandering is still pandering, even if its practically nonexistent.
>>420440642Your argument doesn’t make any sense. Why would you produce a life just to kill it? Defeats the purpose
>>420440642You could win the Olympic medal for mental gymnastics my man, how can anyone twist something so simple
>>420440646Won't change that you are unable to express those views anywhere but in private or face consequences~
>>420440682I’m actually bisexual. Nice try though!
>>420440642depends on if the baby is black or not desu
>>420439751I dont even remember this. Know why? They showed that jeep setpiece in e3 instead of this.
>>420440991If you're a mutt maybe, i can call faggots out of their faggotry, specially the homosexual pride march being disturbed by police, and suppprted by the whole country, i pity /pol/ wgo can never know such joy
>>420441073Based! Now you can spread AIDS across genders to infect normal people!
>>420441291So you don't live in America, Omar? Then why should I care about you?
>>420416364The girl on the left is ridiculously good looking. Though I always suspected I have a thing for eastern women.
People who hate gays are trannies who hate men.There is nothing wrong with loving the superior gender. In fact, it should be encouraged. Men are the best.
>>420440791>>420440970You guys are saying that the ability to produce a life is good in itself. Is the ability to reproduce good in someone with serious inheritable genetic diseases? Is the ability to reproduce good in an alcoholic who drinks though pregnancy? Is the ability to reproduce good in someone who has a baby every year for the purpose of killing it?
>>420439480>there is no inherent value in heterosexualityWrong. The inherent values of heterossexuality is the hability to propagate the species, which is essential for our existence. This is good on itself, as we don't have other means of reproduction and kids raised by their biological parents are more likely to succeed as opposed to any other kind of parenthood.For example, it may be that the africans will eventually be a better civilization than Sweden, since the swedes are dying out and oppening their borders too much. It is likely that the immigrants will propagate themselves and rule over the native population, thus Sweden will cease to exist as it is. An african tribe who lives in barbarism will still be there, with their families, children and culture, as opposed to the swedish people.
>>420440364Iran in the 1960s-1970s. It wasnt always a Muslim shithole.