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What THE FUCK happened?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnSxb9pB-H8
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Also I can make more comparisons for Idol Springs if anyone has requests.
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OLD GOOD NEW BAD
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>>423856879
I never played the original. What's wrong with the remake?
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>>423856879
What the fuck do you think happened? Toys For Bob has been taking as many creative liberties as they want on these remakes already and people will suck a lot of dicks while calling the nostalgiafags or nitpickers retarded or to fuck off. Get ready for people to shout SOUL vs. SOULLESS by the way and "OLD GOOD NEW BAD" non-stop in this thread.
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The only thing that's souless in here is the textbox
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>>423856879
Oh no
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>>423857447
I hate that threads devolved into those two things instead of talking about stuff that does work vs stuff that doesn't work.
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God, it's so fucking bad.

Like all they had to was put in LESS effort and it would look better.

Wasting all that time to make a worse product.
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>>423857538
funny,it's the only thing i thought that looked good in this new version
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>>423856879
This is all pure improvement

Play the original if you want nothing changed, you turbo autist
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>>423856879
What do you mean? Looks like a standard high poly upgrade.
Shit would look retarded if they upgraded everything but kept the models exactly the same. Square mouths and everything.
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>>423858127
I don't think the Idols themselves look too bad, but I saw the residents of Idol Springs and Colossus as more goat people than... ogres? These things look like mini shreks.
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>>423856879

What the fuck are you bitching about
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>>423856879
can't wait for edits that are supposed to "fix" the remake
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>>423856879
Looks amazing
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>>423856879
scene 1
>weird monk guy is now shrek reject
>no more comfy temple sunset in the background
>grass isn't deep green to indicate the exotic setting
>text box and font is now straight out of a mobile game

scene 2 and 3
>claustrophobic canyon instead of atmospheric sky shot
>muddy mix of gray and green instead of being colorful/exotic
>dopey instead of exotic fish

scene 4
>zoe
>pillar is now a tree
>again no sky shot

scene 5
>boring zoomed in shot instead of whole level vista
>no more cloud and the monster just explodes

scene 6
>outdoors for some reason
>totem monster is more crash than spyro
>fucking cobblestones again
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>>423858037
>>423858306
I'm sorry guys but the OP made a blunder, the one on the right is not the remake and is in fact the original game.
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>>423858353
I don't know, nu-Zoe is kinda cute.
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>Seizures through water
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I just can't play games without soul anymore. It just doesn't feel the same.

Honestly I think soul is more important than both gameplay and story.

Soulful starterpack:
>Runescape Classic
>Mario 64
>Daggerfall
>Half-Life
>Pokémon Crystal

Any else?
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>>423856879
>UI and font straight out of a generic mobile game
>i know about the muh souless meme but you can't tell me the NPCs don't look absolutely terrible and nowhere close to what they did before
>some of the animations look abysmal
>changed zoe's design for no reason, i don't hate it but why change it in the first place and so drastically?

My only real complaints desu
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>>423858758
>some of the animations look abysmal
when spyro jumps and starts running/walks slowly it looks bad.
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>>423856879
Like I can live with different animations for orbs, altered designs for characters, but the lack of rain cloud and lightning bolt for the hula girl bit is just frustrating.
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>>423856879
Holy shit so it's this stage. I couldn't even recognize it in remake.
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Let's get a poll, top three things that need fixing/bug you/etc.

>Orbs needs to bounce
>Hula tiki needs the rain cloud and lightning, the hula girls need to actually dance
>ugly UI (dialogue boxes, no iconic golden spyro font, no [TRIANGLE SHAPE] TO TALK just generic triangle button)
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>ps1 games can have rotating characters but ps4 cant
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So are these guys Tibetan or Mesoamerican? The place is obviously Central America but the temples in the background and the NPCs are the monks from Colossus.
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>>423859286
Explain?
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>>423856879
The new one feels claustrophobic.
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Environments look better but NPCs look worse.
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WHY IS NO ONE CUTE ANYMORE
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>>423856879
>more piss filter
holy shit WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>423856879
That water is my biggest issue. It looked nice being totally transparent, very aesthetically pleasing. The murky reflective water in the remake just looks shit
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>>423856879
Im not one to usually rant about soul.souless but left looks like one of those bland UE3 HD fan remakes
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The only things that look worse are Zoe and the UI
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>>423856879
MY CHILDHOOD IS RUINED!
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>Hula girls don't dance at all, they just wave their arms
>the tiki just fucking explodes for no reason at all

I-It's just not done yet haha
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>>423858603
>uses wings to propel faster in water
>just go into a tube and wiggles and magically goes fast
this game is a fucking disaster
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>even the totem heads are cobblestone

What a fucking insult to Mesoamerican civilizations, they could do more with their hands thousands of years ago than what devs can do with technology today.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>423859383
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I can get over everything else, but the text box looks fucking terrible. How hard is it to make it look like the original
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The only idiots that are complaining are nostalgiafags.

Times change, you need to catch up.
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>>423856879
I don't know but that text is FUGY
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>>423856879
>even the idol is made from messy cobble stone now
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I don't give a fuck that the colors aren't exact. The problem for me is that the camera seems too zoomed in towards Spyro.
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>>423857538
>>423858031
its almost like 'soul' is subjective and /v/ needs to be deleted
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>>423859821
Oh, alright, the fact they were still images threw me off for a minute, I get you now.

>>423859845
What if I only played Spyro 1-3 2-3 years ago (meaning I have no nostalgia) but agree with most of the complaints?
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>heres your skybox bro
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>>423859845
Change ain't always a good thing, friend. Timeless battle between Chaos and Order cannot be won by either.
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>>423856879
>people complain about the sky boxes being shit
>redesign the level so the cliffs are taller so you cant see the skybox as much
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>>423856879
This looks like the best remaster I've seen in like 10 years. Why do you thread-making faggots keep trying to bash it? Is this some kind of Nintendo thing? It's coming to the Switch, you know? It's a great platforming game.
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>>423860213
I'd say it's nestolgiafags, but it could be general shitposting.
Be glad it's not on the same level as CP77.
>t. Spyro was the first video game I played
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>>423860213
have you been in a coma for 10 years?
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Honestly I can forgive them a little because the original aesthetic is hard to capture while still competing graphically with contemporary games. But it’s still sad to see them making it look so different. I hope it feels/looks better in practice.
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>>423860023
Let's see you do better buddy
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>>423860412
>if you cant do something yourself, you cant criticize it
yea nice logic fuckhead
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>>423856879
that swimming animation looks like I am watching a ×1.25 video in real time
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I find the new aesthetic pleasing. There's only one screenshot out of both games that I've found bothersome.
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>>423860213
You see, preoblem is it completely throws out everything that made Spyro great, and changes into another "we want nostalgiabucks from PS1 platformer fans" indie-tier shit. Back in the day every Spyro thread had that one autist who posted skybox wallpapers, there was talking about how they managed to make a game so beautiful with tech limitations they have, about how based Copeland was with creating unique soundtrack and after listening to more The Police, I can hear similiarites in few songs. Also, is there any gameplay from Spyro 1? If they added hover, I'm going to fucking murder someone unless they rebalanced maps.
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>>423860213
Crash remaster was better
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>>423860378
Spyro 1 through 3 were never highly regarded games. They were basically games packaged in McDonalds meals. The fact that they got a cult following was because of ADORBS graphics and HURRDD gameplay. The games were not graphically impressive at all. In fact they looked much worse than the industry standard by the third game.

Now a remaster comes out with 3 games in one, looks fantastic and you faggots whine about cobble stone and polygon graphics having to be redone entirely?

The aesthetic is perfect for a Spyro game. The pixary style of the characters fits the world and the voice acting is top notch.

What the actual fuck are the LITERAL fucking down sides in these trailers and videos??????

TRY TO EXPLAIN WITHOUT USING BUZZWORDS YOU STUPID NIGGERS FOR ONCE. ONE "Soul vs Soulless" AND YOU'RE OUT FAGGOT
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>>423856879
Elaborate the problem. Because I am either blind or everything looks good
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subway
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I honestly see the issue. The only issue here is how autistic OP is
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>>423860982
Actually, no, I see one problem. The textbox looks a bit silly, but nothing to go "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THEY KILLED IT" about
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>>423860929
>The games were not graphically impressive at all. In fact they looked much worse than the industry standard by the third game.
The games literally revolutionized graphics my man, LOD was first invented to be used in Spyro because the devs didn't want to put fog everywhere. You are talking out of your ass and I'm quite sure you weren't even alive when the games came out.
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>>423856879

I can't remember if this world gave you a Talisman or not

any images of what it looks like in the remaster if it does?
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>>423861405
There is a talisman, but the video doesn't show it
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>>423856879
they tried to make something that was cutesy and low-poly look more 'realistic' and earthy and it doesnt work
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>>423860982
>The pretty sunset was replaced with a boring misty green
>On a related note, most of the sky has been blocked out by rocks making the level feel claustrophobic
>The level itself lost its color and is now covered in greys and puke greens
>The npcs look less cute and helpless and more reminiscent of sleazy DreamWorks characters
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>>423860929
music has been slightly changed to make it worse for no real reason
color pallets for levels are uninspired when the original had a fantastic grasp on color
skyboxes are duller
voice acting sounds like voice acting and not natural speech coming from real living entities
half of spyros animation are just actual garbage
why the fuck would a big stone carving head be made from individual bricks?
text boxes and other HUD shit look stupidly out of place and use tacky fonts
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>>423861252

>>423860023
>>423856879
>turns your fantasy setting into a generic area
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>>423856879
The worst thing about this is the godawful font in the remake.
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>>423856879
>Right
Soul
>Left
Souless
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>>423856879
>zoe
>no tits
lel, as expected
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Is it me or the color pallete was so much better in the original?
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>>423859910
>Soul is subjective
The fuck? You're completely wrong
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>>423861849
the font in spyro 1 gameplay is yellow but the font here in spyro 2 is blue. The font itself is fine but no idea why they changed the colours
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>>423862026
It was better. Now the level looks drab because of how faded everything is from the environment to the sky.
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>>423861928
This might be a fucking stupid meme, but, when I look at it, it's actually true. Remake doesn't have this feeling of fairytale anymore, seems more like some fantasy RPG from half of the 00's.
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I believed in this game and I liked everything I saw up to this point. Before it was just some minor skybox issues for me, but now? Fuck this fucking game. Where's all the color? Why is nothing allowed to be cute? Why is it all so fucking ugly and standardized?
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>Those fucking NPCs
It's just a generic looking game now. All the magic is gone.
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They got the colors completely wrong. This is probably the worst thing they showed so far
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im so glad the original still exists, whether its nostalgiafagging or not the original looks so much better
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People who even dare to think the new one is better have obviously never touched a Spyro game.
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>>423862643
So you're saying that it's just nostalgia?
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>>423856879
https://youtu.be/XnSxb9pB-H8?t=11m11s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-tT_rzkVBg&feature=youtu.be&t=1h2m55s
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Oh boy, can't wait to see them fuck up Autumn Plains.

I fully expect to see their offices set on fire when it inevitably happens.
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>>423862986
LE DREAMWORKS FACE
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just emulate it with pgxp and the widescreen hack dudes
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I can’t wait to play this game, most hyped game for 2018 desu, fuck you haters.
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God I hate you people
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>>423862986
They look so smug. The originals looked as though they were in trouble and needed your help. These guys look like salesmen trying to screw you over.
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>>423862986
I just noticed the bottom dude doesn't have the glasses of his ps1 counterpart
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>>423862986
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>>423863403
They were the bad guys all along, and they tricked you into helping them.
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>>423862986
>cute green dude vs ugly dreamworks looking ogre
nah thanks
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>>423856879
>font: "curlz"
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>>423862925
>I fully expect to see their offices set on fire when it inevitably happens.
implying everyone wont just eat it up like all the memesters here
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>>423862986
Both look awful

You guys collectively have shit taste tbqh
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>>423856879
I seriously think it looked amazing. Even hearing them talk about how they took creative liberties with small things is really neat in my opinion (like the barbeque grills for shields)
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>>423863685
Not that anon but I don't know man... I think this level has received a bigger backlash than the initial review. Nearly every thread today has been filled with complaints with the shills being vastly outnumbered this time.
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>>423863948
*than the first levels revealed* sorry wasn't paying attention.
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Pros:
>The actual tiki Idols are alright, I do like the "tfw to smart" ones as well
>Under water looks alright, might be good for Aquaria towers
>The puzzle looks better

Cons:
>The residents look like shit
>The big idol that you feed the fish to and the rain idol look bad
>Level feels... smaller than the original
>Grass instead of moss

Neutral:
>Zoe
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>>423863948
only here and only because were autists, check the youtube comments they all love it
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>>423863948
>anyone who doesn’t have a complaint is a shill
Open a window
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>>423858353
Spyro always used it's skyboxes as much as possible. It's odd to see it hidden in the new one.
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>>423859273
I agree.
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I was actually on board with the remake until I saw this shit. I'm kind of worried about the rest of Spyro 2.
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>>423864094
Oh yeah, forgot to add into the cons
>The text box
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>>423864094
what about
>unacceptable
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Outright looks like a Unity freshman project.
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>>423864541
That too.
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>>423856879
>fairy wearing shoes

Why do people do this? Just to spite foot fetishists? A fairy wouldn't fucking wear shoes.
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Guys, I don't think I'll be able to handle what they do to Elora... I was hopeful before, but after this I'm worried about the rest. I don't think we've seen a good shot of Rypto yet, the one they posted is in a strange pose. I shouldn't care, I mean we'll always have the originals, but,,, we haven't seen Hunter yet either! Oh god these guys are going to fuck them up. Hold me bros.
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Looks great to me. What the hell did you autists expect? It's a remake not an HD upgrade only
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>>423864629
I actually have no objections to the Ripto they posted and is probably the best model I have seen of the fucker. These ogre fucks in Idol Springs are the worst I've seen so far.
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>>423864541
>Light blue gem as gem counter
>No light blue gems exist
Also what the fuck was wrong with the golden text and UI, everything's blue now.
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>>423856879
Why the hell did they walled off the whole level?
every level in spyro 2 felt like they were at the summit of a mountain most of the times
now Idol Springs feels like its in the bottom of a canyon and cramped as fuck
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game seems like a classic case of "some better, some worse"

still buying it
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>>423857374
Looks like some significant changes to aesthetic, which Crash suffered too, but not nearly this bad it seems. Fairies have chibi eyes, and I frankly just don't like the foreman design
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>>423864232
I mean, what other conclusion can I come to if all people do is shout "SOUL" or "OLD GAME GOOD NEW GAME BAD" every time someone says something unflattering about the remake? I am not saying you are not allowed to like the remake. I am not even saying you have to agree with me but surely you can see the reasoning behind most of the complaints right? Whether you like it or not Idol Springs does look less colorful and the npcs don't look as cute as they used to. You may not care about that but the visuals were one of the main appeals of the Spyro trilogy in the first place so don't pretend it's a non issue.
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>>423856879
The only thing I find dubious is those green fellows don't have unibrows in the remaster. Everything else literally looks better. I have never played Spyro. Soulless is a meme made up by nostalgiafags who can't articulate.
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>>423857184
Add the lightning bolt effects missing. There's 1 from Zoe, 1 from the Supercharger powerup, and one from the raincloud (missing entirely).
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>>423858603
thats not the new animation right?? RIGHT??
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>>423863948
>anyone who doesn’t have a complaint is a shill
Open a window
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>>423860213
Because the nostalgiacunts had they own headcanon of what Spyro was supposed to be and any deviation of said headcanons is met with screeching.
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>>423860412
dude that skybox is just an "olive" to "darker shade olive" gradient.
you could take a better skybox from a powerpoint preset background
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>>423864983
>I have never played Spyro
And you think anyone cares about your opinion?
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>>423864779
Very blue holy shit. Why give everything the sunny egg yolk color then cuck the text like this?
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>>423856879
Why does every single shot feels so fucking cramped
I know they walled off the lake area, but look at the dancing hulagirls part, and how everything looks so much closer to each other than in the original
Yes the levels in the original spyro 2 are small as fuck, but they did their best to not feel cramped at much they could
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Spyro is a hard game to remaster because there are so many enemies that are just generic blobs you can't call anything but "dudes". Take the arab guys in scorch or the divers in Aquaria towers. Can you actually describe them except coloured dudes with some clothes?

I am also not saying this is a bad thing, it added to the charm of the originals.
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WHY IS DO THEY KEEP USING THOSE MISHMATCHED BRICKS ON EVERYTHING
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>zoe now has no tits and a longer dress
Elora with pants confirmed.
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>>423865214
What if they game them plain styles and designs, as if everyone is just smooshed face in their universe.
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Reminder that remakes are pointless and you should always just play the original instead
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>>423856879
That new font and textbox look fucking god awful and are probably the most egregious thing in all these images.
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>>423856879
I seriously fucking hope that UI is placeholder.
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>>423865214
>Spyro is a hard game to remaster because there are so many enemies that are just generic blobs
Then why not try incorporating those? Why make them look nothing like the og designs?
>It added to the charm of the originals
Theres nothing charming about these shrek looking motherfuckers.
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>>423863403
So you are saying, that they will fucking nail moneybags then
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>>423864983
>Flat colors
>No skylines
>Psuedo-realism instead of surrealism
>Nothing is cute anymore
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>>423865549
Where in my post did I even imply I like the ugly fuckers they came up with? There is a way to update them so they don't look like generic blobs of colours with eyes and mouths, but not like this.
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>>423865656
>>423865395
JUST WATER DOWN EVERYTHING LOL
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>>423856879
WHERE'S THE SOUL
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>Played Spyro and Crash extensively as a child
>Think both remasters look fine so far
>Don't like a few of the animations shown so far in Spyro, but it's not enough to put me off completely
You niggers are just salty incel cucks lmoa
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>>423864541
>left
Here is a collectable for your prize
>right
Here is a lootbox for your prize

No joke, the animation looks straight from a freemium game when you open the lootboxes
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>>423864541
>right barely reacts to the orb being given to him
20 years of progress ladies and gentlemen
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>>423865395
>>423865656
left looks better purely because of the skyline
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>>423865656
THIS
left is a well balanced vista
Right looks it came straight from the Ratched and Clank remake
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The NPCs are a massive downgrade
>take simple cute designs and turn them into generic Dreamworks shit
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>>423865856
Remeber that attention grabbing door in Artisans? Yeah, there's going to be lootbox shit in the game.
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>>423864541
>text box wipes in the original
>just disappears in remake

>spyro follows the orb as it bounces in the original
>stares shellshocked into nothingness in the remake
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>>423856879
All the asthetic changes are just there to disguise the censorship.
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>>423865214
The blob excuse really only stands in Spyro 1, they go beyond gnorcs from the second game onwards and they are more noticeably defined for the most part, since there is so many different types of enemies.

Some are still blob like, but most aren't and can be translated into HD with no problem.
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>>423865395
is that the switch version?
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>>423864306
>tfw the skyboxes were the thing that I hoped the most that they would get right
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>>423858031
Wait. Is soul subjective?
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>>423865837
I played the shit of crash and spyro as a kid too
The only thing I didnt like in the crash remake was how bright everything is (dark area levels felt way too bright) and how water and reflections looked waaay better in the original for some reason
I also hated how crash felt heavy as fuck too since I couldnt do the same tricks I used to as a kid on the old games
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>>423864541
the orb looks like just a fancy gem instead of something that you need to 100% the game on the left, on the right it looks more important, but I agree with other anons that it looks like a lootbox spawn.
also fuck the blue text
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I feel like either I'm not autistic enough for this place anymore (been here since 2007) or that I'm being elaborately trolled. Masterfully, even. But if anyone of you are actually serious, please neck yourselves and all relative family.
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Looks fine but I doubt there is much fun to be had with a game like Spyro in 2018. At least Crash was kinda hard and something for the masochists but what is the appeal of Spyro?
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>>423865395
one of the most impressive things about the original trilogy was the skyboxes. They look great because they are actually created with rendered polygons instead of just being a texture, which was (and still is) highly unorthodox.

Glad they replaced all that with CLIFFS
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>>423866204
>rip this file from the game
>Ps out the clouds
>vector the sun so you can have a high as fuck resolution asset
>make some volumetric clouds and place it in front of the skybox png
FUCKING DONE
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>>423866357
The surreal aesthetics, sublime music, and cute setting. Not appearing in the remake.
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These threads are depressing as fuck. Miss me with that hate.
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>>423866053
>spyro follows the orb as it bounces in the original
>stares shellshocked into nothingness in the remake
Damn, now that you point it out, I can see what all the soul posters are getting out. Game looks good at first glance, but the more you analyze it, the more you see that little thought has went into the subtleties that matter.
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>>423866345
>This mad people are finding glaring flaws in this shitty remake
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>>423866345
What's so masterful about it? It's just /v/'s default mode: New game bad grr! It's just a bonus that there's an old game we can pretend to contrast it.
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>>423866129
>>423865214
Also to add onto this a gnorc shows up in Spyro 2, and its much more detailed compared to the gnorcs you faced in the first game.
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>>423866357
I... can't really say either. I can give you a list why I play Crash games, from the tight platforming to the genius level design and tricky but rewarding secrets.

>>423866482
This would be the answer aesthetically, but game play wise outside of the speedways, I can't say a whole lot.
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>>423866357
A good collectathon to play after auffering through yooka-laylee.
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>>423860929
Spyro broke new ground graphically with its techniques for distance drawing. This can't even be refuted.
All the music is also genius, and so is most of the sound design.
The atmosphere and artstyle is very charming and timeless.
By any standard they were AAA games with the amount of production and thought that went into them.

I'd say you're just a jaded retard.
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Some legitimate complaints here, they should have tried to keep the NPCs cute and they should have maintained the sense of scale and open view of the sky. Pretty much everything else is ludicrous whining.
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>>423866345
>has no capacity for artistic judgement
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>>423866683
Yeah as I said a couple of times before, stuff like the Idol enemies are pretty good reimaginings of them, but there is quite a bit wrong.
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>>423856879
>>423858353
This is literally "SONIC'S ARMS ARE NOT BLUE" levels of autism. Are you fucks going to pepper spray some Gamestop employees when the game releases in protest?
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It's so sad that you can easily tell it's one person complaining about people criticizing the game. It's the same low-effort nigger posting every time.
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>>423866650
Levels in spyro as small as fuck (its why it compensated by putting on the disk tons of levels with different characters)
this is not that appealing nowadays when platformers have huge ass levels to explore
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>>423866482
Think you are confusing shit graphics with surreal aesthetics. Or maybe it's the same thing in this regard. But either way it's not something you could possibly recreate with modern graphics that actually look like something. If you just made everything three polygons to preserve the aesthetic, what would you be remaking?
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>>423866697
>Everyone on /v/ is an art critic. Look at my colour theory posts.

It’s like Facebook moms reposting the same articles about video games being evil.
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>>423860929
>The games were not graphically impressive at all. In fact they looked much worse than the industry standard by the third game.
You are literally retarded, Spyro was one of the first video games to pioneer the use of lowing polygon counts for things that are too far away, it in turn makes the game look far better then games that had shit just pop in or fade in when you got close enough.

For the time and what they were able to do with the system it looks very good.
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>it has more polygon so it gud
>bretty hd colours!!!
>hehe look at all the grass this remaster is grat!
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Why do people think the criticism comes from nostalgia? The design and lighting in the remake is so bland that it would be frustrating for any artist to look at.
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>>423866357
>Comfy and easy going gameplay.
>Fun to reach 100% completion due to all of the collectibles.
>Beautiful and memorable environments. You will never know what the game will throw at you. Ice caverns, swamps, industrial areas, prehistoric badlands, futuristic cities, war torn countries, fairy tale inspired lands, spaghetti western towns with gun slinging dinos. The fun never ends.
>Awesome soundtrack.
>Fun characters and enemies.
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I wonder if they're going to add any extra features and stuff, like how the N Sane trilogy had Crash 1 and Crash 2 time trials. (Haven't gotten around to playing N Sane trilogy yet, this is just what I've heard).
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Only the skybox is shit, rest is fine
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Is this gonna be in 4K on the Pro?
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>>423856879
Can I get a video where those annoying mouthbreathers aren't constantly drowning the game out?
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>>423867041
Only thing I can think of is more dragons in the first and more missions or areas to go to that involve getting morecollectables of 2 and 3's respective collectables.

People were asking for female dragons, so I wouldn't be surprised if they added in new dragons that are all female just for that.

I'm more interested to know if they'll make a DLC like Crash did.

yfw they add in a level where you have to help Crash and Coco
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wow 2018 amirite grafics bros the remake is looking good so many polygons bros
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>>423867041
The only realistic thing I can think of is the Sparx gem-search feature, which was cheat-only in Spyro 1 I believe.
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>>423856879
They erected high ass walls everywhere so now you can barely see the skybox
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>>423866994
>>423867393
Literally the same anon.
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>>423867416
Sparx's gem finding ability wasn't in Spyro 1 at all originally.

It was in Spyro 2 as a secret thing you can do, Sparx's ability to have an extra hit point was a cheat however, and Sparx's ability to pick up gems from a bigger range was a secret reward you got for beating it.

Pretty much almost all of Sparx's upgrades you get in Spyro 3 are from Spyro 2.
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Why did they make Spyro so stiff and repulsive? It's really hard to explain what I mean, but it's like original Spyro was a working cocker spaniel and remake Spyro is a jack russell. I think it might be the bulging muscles and smooth plasticine texture.
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>>423867025
So you think it would be less bland if it were faithful to the original character designs and color palette? Lol.
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>>423866871
>But either way it's not something you could possibly recreate with modern graphics that actually look like something
Kirby and Mario seem to do it just fine.
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>>423856879
The Tikis don't look nearly as scary as they used to, and the eyes on everything is so weird.
Also why does the fairy look like some dirty peasant?.
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I just hope they keep the Gnorc and Rhynoc butts
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>>423867654
they hired a furry to model and animate him
its why he wiggles his ass when running

We will probably get decent looking models for the other non human waifus since this dude has a hard on for non humans... or it will be shit because he is all in bara scalies topping fuckboys
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>>423867791
I'm hoping the dark humor of Spyro 2's cutscenes at the beginning and end of a level remains, characters getting hurt and killed because its a cartoon game and can get away with it is nice.
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>>423856879
>Seething zoomer drones can do nothing but scream "muh autism" after getting BTFO again and again
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>>423867903
its amazing how just this made it look much better even though the head geometry and hand position is shit
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>>423864541
That's it, I'm keeping my money.
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>>423867903
Wow, it really is just the eyes.
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>>423857332
This but unironically.
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>>423868070
And the teeth.
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>>423864541
This is R&C remake tier. Too lazy to make some actual animation, add in some particle effects instead. Hell, that light looks like the glowing light I've seen on lootbox images from overwatch.
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>>423867903
>in your lifetime, no one will ever try to keep the soul of the original games alive
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>>423867654
What have you got against jack russells?
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No joke or trolling
Just fucking curious on why everything that is supposed to be about fantasy for kids in videogames and is a remake nowadays looks like it came from fucking overwatch
The Ratchet and Clank remake looks like this
The crash remake looks like this
This looks like this

WHY all these devs have such a hard on for the blizard kid friendly aesthetic? why none of them try their own thing?
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I wanted to buy this, but the outrageous amount of creative liberties they've been taking instead of faithfully remastering it is making me reconsider.
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>>423864797
>it feels cramped as fuck
Welcome to the Spyro remake.
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>muh Tinkerbell dress is sexist
I always thought it'd have glitter.
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>>423868328
Long story short because it's the safe thing to do.
Big companies don't take risks anymore, they answer to too many investors and publishers breathing down their necks.
During the 90's and early 2000's developers had a lot more space for artistic visions and experimentation.
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>>423868328
I think the Crash remake is currently the only one mentioned that actually did what it was supposed to do, which is preserve the "soul"/style/aesthetic the original had, but also bring it up to the graphical fidelity demanded of games today.
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>>423868008
>all the little goat boys dancing and celebrating
>one of them pushes another into a fucking lava mote for absolutely no reason

what the fuck even was that
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>>423866876
I'm actually an artist by trade that works on games and I can tell you this remake is completely missing the point in a lot of areas starting with the fact that it exists
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>>423868008
It's going to be real gruesome with these realistic fucking models
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>>423858603
The new one is more realistic. The idea of him using his wings to swim is retarded. If he were able to do that they would be way to heavy for him to fly with them.
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>>423868479
From noticeable, bright yellow to shit brown
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>>423866876
>Here is a green level, please remake it
>WTF why did you make it brown?
>What are you, an art critic bro?
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>>423868262
They're an ugly and annoying dog breed. A bread loaf sized waddling ball of muscles with a pea sized brain.
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>>423868642
Nigger it's a fucking dragon. His existence isn't realistic.
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Reminder that TfB did fix the colors in Spyro 1 from fan feedback on reddit. If you have suggestions, you better let them know
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>>423868559
Go to any dark level in crash
Hell go to the cave levels in crash 1
it does not look like crash at all
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>>423868642
>The idea of him using his wings to swim is retarded
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423868783
You're opinion is wrong.
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>>423868865
It's two months until launch. They can't change anything at this point.
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>>423868642
>>423868859
And also let's just outright ignore the fact that said dragon is able to lift his entire body with those tiny ass wings.
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>>423868559
Crash remake was as bad as this or worse, considering how they completely fucked up the expresivity and looks of the characters.
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>game has small levels
>it also invents LOD and has simple textures and other tricks to make them seem big
>feels great, open, expansive, atmospheric
>gets a remake
>no need for LOD, can load everything at once
>can see the high res texture on a mosquito's ass from the other side of the level
>both things that would expose the scale of the levels
>"I know, let's add tall fucking barriers everywhere so you can't see the sky ever!"
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>>423868981
Spyro can't fly
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>>423869195
A creature of that size wouldn't be able to glide with that body weight and wing span.
And technically yes he can
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>>423868859
And? This game still tries to follow the laws of physics to some degree.
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>>423869138
The mountain in the center its what is ruining everything to be honest
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>tfw the eskimos will look like shit too

Why must it be this way, /v/
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>>423869138
>that grass everywhere making everything noisy
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>>423869287
It follows the laws of physics of its own world, you actual sperg.
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>>423869138
>carved wall made out of fucking fantasy crystals/polished purple stone becomes shitty ass cobblestone wall

for what purpose
no seriously why, the whole point of most of these levels is that they were in a magical fantasy land, why replace magical shit with mundane shit?
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>>423868642
If there's any franchise that doesn't need to be grounded in reality, it's Spyro. The whole thing is fairytale madness, intentionally. "It's magic, I aint gotta explain shit" is literally the game's aesthetic.
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>>423869138
>Purple, hazy, magical on the left
>Literally an overwatch mountain range
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>>423869123
Don't make yourself look dumb my friend
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>>423869313
I wonder how they're going to ruin this scene?
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>>423869138
>mountain in the center ruins the shot by making it look much closer than it should look like
>river replacing the death pit ruins the shot by making the whole scene look like it takes place at the bottom of a ravine instead of the summit of a mountain range
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>>423869123
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Just keep the designs exactly the sa-
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>>423868559
Crash remake survived because the core appeal of that trilogy is the gameplay and level design. Spyro is less about satisfying platforming and more about the art style and music, which are fucked in the remake.
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>>423856879
I only have two issues with the remake based on these pictures:
1) Zoey's design. Making her darker skinned when her pinkish skin is her most prominent trait, and
2) The camera when you talk to NPCs is pretty shitty.
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>>423869626
Where is his penis
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>>423856879
>Boo hoo. The remake isn't exactly like the original. It sucks.
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>>423869523
But you are just proving my point by showing the clearly inferior remade crash with his static ass face.
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>>423869138
That's giving them too much credit. It would be entirely possible to emulate the style in a higher fidelity, Toys For Bob are just incompetent.
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>>423869673
It's in frame, he even has his cock ring on
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>>423869313
are you ready for huge ass disney/pixard/blizard/dreamworks eyes?
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>>423856879
Meh. I couldn't care less about Spyro 2, it was garbage.
The only good Spyro game was Spyro 1.
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>>423869750
It's a remaster anon.
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>>423856879
>it looks way better
I legit don't understand 4chan's hate boner for this remaster
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>>423867672
It has nothing to do with being a remake. The game would bad if it was an original unrelated to anything.
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>>423869626
The one character I won't mind to see changed.
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>>423869559
>*dabs*
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>>423869750
No, it sucks alongside not looking like the original.
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>>423869843
Read the thread
>but none of that counts!
Then you're a dev damage controlling.
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>>423869843
Everything they've shown up to this point has been a huge indication that they've ruined Elora and Bianca, the two main reasons why anyone is giving a shit about the game.
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>>423869659
He isn't even emoting anon, take of the nostalgia glasses
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>>423856879
I dont see what the problem is...
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>>423869979
>but none of that counts!
More like
>but all these complainants are fucking retarded
>>423870054
>muh waifu
I mean I get it, i'd be pissed if someone fucked up my waifu as well. I highly doubt that everyone bitching about this is a waifufag though
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>>423856879
where the fuck is the soul of the original?
why the fuck it's so small?
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Zoe looks better. I can actually fap to her.
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>>423869930
Don't.
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>>423869979
>muh soul
Is what it's all coming down to. /v/'s newest buzzword now that s o y is censored
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>>423870148
Shouldn't you be working on your unfaithful remake?
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>>423865395
>brown and bloom is back in style
just fuck my shit up
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>>423857447
To be hoenst is surprises me how this doesn't surprise them. A majority of the cast of all three Spyros are mostly blob.like people of colors or simple animals.

Unlike Crash, their designs are not a detailed and they do not posses as much concept art to follow as Crash.
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>>423870054
Well, activision managed to keep tawana decent looking, same for coco, sans the huge ass head
I bet they could deliver some decent faun pussy
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>>423856879
remake is ugly
fuck the apologists
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>>423870236
>Soul
Nice strawman. When you take the original green grass and turn it brown, it has nothing to do with soul or soulless.
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I have never seen a game that wasn't about gays or niggers piss /v/ off so much
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>>423870236
Why do you ignore all the relevant criticism? What do you gain from that? Honest question.
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>>423870369
>relevant criticism
Like what? Legitimately what is wrong with it that warrants all this shit posting besides you not liking the new art style
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>>423869138
Honestly I don't mind small levels, its when collectathon games become too big is when they have a problem.

Or cases like Enter the Dragonfly, it has bigger levels then the PS1 games, but they place all of the collectables around in really horrible places, so its a chore to get everything.

Spyro was always a faster paced collectathon that built its platforming around gliding and junk, so small levels fit with how its meant to be, levels are linear with a few branching paths, and normally you gain some kind of shortcut by the end of the level to pretty much make the level loop around in case you miss something.

The face paced nature is backed up by the fact Sparx gives you extra range in picking up games, where a lot of games like this will need you to be pixel perfect with where you are to pick up the collectable.

Spyro 2 and 3 even give you a gem finding ability, as well as Sparx becoming so good by the end of Spyro 3 he can just do all of the work for you in collecting.
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>>423870458
Read the thread.
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71 days until I bomb Pixar headquarters.
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>>423869138
>"I know, let's add tall fucking barriers everywhere so you can't see the sky ever!"
You can see the sky right there though
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>>423870510
Don't you dare, I want to watch Toy Story 4-7
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Looks good except for Zoe and the water not being see-through.
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>>423868063
>powerup gate design unique to every level
Neat idea but it breaks some UX rules regarding familiarity and usability, same with the fireproof armors/shields all having different textures and reflection levels.

And the NPC scenes break some basic framing rules when it comes dialogues, the camera placement seems arbitrary and inconsistent, when in the original all the positions were deliberate.

With all the color and animation complaints, it seems like Toys for Bob doesn't really have a clue about most things necessary for game design.
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>>423870359
Every remake pisses people off because at some level, some one took an uncanny autistic level of attention to some asset of the original game
and when that person see the remade asset not following the original guide lines it pisses them off

Remember how lots of people were bitching about wonder's chubby cheeks and fuckboy expressions when compared to the skinny and cold mothefucker of the original?

The only "remake" I have ever seen that /v/ was ok with was when Arc Sys turned Guilty Gear into 3D, But since Arc Sys Team Red (and team blue) are manned and head by turbo autists who love to tweek minute things, every one was mostly ok with the few changes they had to make (most people were more bothered by every one being wide as fuck, but that fueled so many lewd arts of barrel chested males and wide and thick females that no one cared in the end)
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>Nu-spyro doesn't have so-
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>>423866345
You're kidding, right? I was ambivalent about the others levels they've shown so far, but this really is atrocious.
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I haven't understood the complaints until now but yeah, this looks pretty hideous.
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>>423870858
>the camera placement seems arbitrary and inconsistent, when in the original all the positions were deliberate.
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>>423859286
It's almost as if the game is being released on other platforms. Oh wait.
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https://youtu.be/WqJS_FqZNJ0
>Spyro Reignited Trilogy comparison
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>>423866345
I know, it's really weird. I mean its been a meme that /v/ has been getting worse and worse for years but I never really noticed it until these last few weeks

Are summerfags a real thing?
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>>423871030
>all females are going to look like shit
>all males are going for the daddy look in some way or another
This is what happens when you hire a gay scalie to your design team
SCREEN CAP THIS
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>>423871247
>This is what happens when you hire a gay scalie to your design team
Good designs happen?
They should do it more often then.
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>>423871124
what am i looking at here
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>>423856879
Those fonts and text bubbles are god awful
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>>423871318
I don't want to be fucked by a daddy dragon
I want to fuck a faun
Hire a straight furry
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>>423871489
Looks like a phone app

Not to mention the golden numbers and gem lost all visual appeal.
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>>423871504
At least wait until you see her before screaming shes not sexy
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>>423871359
deliberate camera position
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I can't stop seeing the hard hats as yarmulkes, the Shrek rejects just look so jewish for some reason
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>>423856879
>even the text is soulless
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>>423871695
its how they hold their hands on their coats/belly

only moneybags should ever do that
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>>423871683
Is there something wrong with it?
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>>423871832
no just want to back up your claim jeez fucker
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>>423871812
>moneybags
oh no they're going to turn him into a bear
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>>423856879
wtf that font is ass
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>>423871906
Sorry man, from the way you posted it seemed like you were discrediting it
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>>423872038
He was always a bear, anon
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>>423872309
Yeah but now his first name is going to be bara
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>>423872309
That's not what I meant.
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>>423859771
>foreman claims they're carving the idols
>clearly cobbled together
BRAVO NOLAN
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>>423868070
>>423868164
it was the eyes and the goatee
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>>423872570
>goatee
it's a faunee you dork
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>spyro threads are going down the sonic BLUE ARMS route thanks to ironic shitposters
Fuck this board
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>>423869138
Why the fuck is the mountain even there? You can't even climb it. Waste of fucking time, effort and resources. Did no one ever tell these idiots less is more?
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The lighting and shadows are nice, I wouldn't mind having them in an actually faithful remake
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>>423856879
Let's be real honest, the first game is the only good Spyro game in the entire franchise. Rest are complete shit.
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Genuinely looks(and sounds) bad in a lot of ways, in addition to the changes that aren't horrible but miss the point of the original. Super disappointing
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>>423872781
>People criticising incompetence=autism
Just because you have absolutely no concept of critical thinking and eat up whatever shit given to you doesn't mean everyone else does.
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>>423872923
DANCE YOUR CARES AWAY
WORRY'S FOR ANOTHER DAY
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>>423856879
>Those text boxes
What the hell.
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>>423870858
With that font, they clearly don't give a shit about UX and UI
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>>423866518
That's because during the PS1 era they were trying to make games. Now they're trying to make money.
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>>423872923
The system for lighting's fine, but I really don't like the atmosphere they went with for most of these. Just makes everything blur together.
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>>423872781

The artstyle was one of the most memorable aspects of the original trilogy, it really shouldn't be surprising that people are upset at the changes.
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>>423872923
>Blurry light near the ground instead of the skybox/fog in the death pits
>nice

the shadows are nice tho
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>>423872781
>ironic shitposter ironicly complains about ironic shitposters
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>>423873092
I just noticed those. This really is a remaster for the sake of being a remaster, for money.
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>>423856879
right looks like its own thing in its own universe
left looks exaggerated and forgettable, even the text box looks boring and out of place
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>>423869843
>it looks way better
How?
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The only minor issue I agree with is how cramped each world feels. Like everything now has 25% more mountains/walls/rivers/ etc. Makes a lot of worlds feel squashed together instead of more spread out. Other than that, this is looking pretty good.
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>generic text boxes
>Uncute NPCS
>Bland skybox

Just fix those 3 things and I'll be fine with it.

What gameplay additions do you think they'll add?
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>>423874550
He started video games last generation.
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The animations and the UI are the only thing I don't like so far. I hope the animations especially get improved upon. That swimming one was repulsive.
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Why is the water in that room so fucking bright? Nothing is even reflecting off of it. This is the same fucking problem the N Sane Trilogy had where the water just looked like sludge or paint.
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>>423856879
Look, I don't care, I just want to hug Spyro.
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>>423858005
How can you honestly think like this? This doesn't look bad at all, just stick to fortnite.
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>>423874975
>I hope the animations especially get improved upon. That swimming one was repulsive.
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>>423876030
Why do you do this to me?
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>>423857538
Agreed. Why the fuck is it to shitty?
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>>423872927
No one agrees with you.
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>>423876030
Holy shit that's floaty as fuck.
The original at least had some semblance of wind resistance.
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>>423872781
Why do people keep bringing up the blue arms defense? There is a big difference between complaining about one character's body part and complaining about a level known for its tropical beauty being neutered.
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>>423877193

That's because your opinion is shit.
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The first Spyro game is still the best because the lack of meaningful NPCs makes it have a very lonely and eerie feeling all throughout the game up until the very end. The introduction of NPCs that give you stuff to do ruined Spyro, and took a shit on the great atmosphere of the first.

You, by yourself, collecting stuff and exploring the new worlds while you fight enemies and try to piece together what the fuck the place you're at used to be/is and how the inhabitants lived. All while enjoying the cool music and just generally chilling out. The other games took all of that away in favor of garbage npcs. In the original you only had fairies and the balloon guys and that was it.
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>>423879930
Holy carp. this guy gets it.
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>>423856879
As someone who never played the originals, I don't understand why someone would dislike the remakes, is as if Super Mario 64 got remade with Odyssey graphics and everyone threw a shifit over it.
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>>423880456
Odyssey looks vastly better than this shit
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>>423879930
>In the original you only had fairies and the balloon guys and that was it.

The dragons you rescued.
>>423880456
>is as if Super Mario 64 got remade with Odyssey graphics and everyone threw a shifit over it.

Some people hate how Peach's Castle looks in Odyssey, inside and outside of it, so you're not wrong.
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>>423879930
>exploring the new worlds while you fight enemies and try to piece together what the fuck the place you're at used to be/is and how the inhabitants lived
I thought this too and liked the notion until I read that every location in the first game was really just supposed to be built by the dragons and that they're the only beings that ever lived there.
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>>423867903
Now this works. It isn't just the blobs with more polygons but still retains the general look of the characters. What does toys for Bob have against dot eyes?
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>>423867903
IT

KEEPS

HAPPENING
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>>423858608
Jade Cocoon is soul incarnate
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>>423872923
it's literally the default Unreal 4 lighting. raise your standards faggot
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>>423866841
The thing as a whole just looks obnoxious. I don't care what reasons people give, it just fundamentally looks disgusting to me, regardless of what changed or what wasn't. It looks dumber than the OoT UE4 fan remake. And it just consistently takes things that are meant to look pure, clean or pretty and then overloads them with ugliness and wonky nonsense.
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i really don't understand the point of this remake other than pandering to nostalgiafags. the old one clearly has a more thought-out aesthetic and still plays fine.
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>>423879930
I've always felt the same way.




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