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it happened again
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>>423899284
Fuck dude just let the fans make it at this point
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Soul/Soulless/Soulsome
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That looks so much better. Maybe make it so he isn't smiling like a retard despite his home being overrun by tiki heads.
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Mid looks best desu
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more idol springs footage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnSxb9pB-H8
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>>423899284
Right looks best but I honestly don't mind middle either.

Just don't fuck up the main characters and I'm good.
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>>423899687
>orange, desaturated and bloomed to fuck
>completely missing the purpley orange skybox

Do these fuckwits not even look at the original?
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>>423899687
Fairy censorship bothers me the most
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>>423899284
dishonest remakes are the worst thing after women and minorities
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>>423899687
>even the idol is cobblestone
jesus fucking christ, how insulting
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>>423899885
I wouldn't say it's censorship when the fairy in Spyro 1 kept the short dress. Just a dumb design they went with.
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>>423899284
>original
>remake
>????
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>>423899687
THIS is what happens when you design a game with a specific artstyle in mind and then have a team go over it without considering the choices you made to keep the visual language cohesive.

you want to know why things look S O U L L E S S? thats why
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>>423899997
This but unironically
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>>423899284
What I am even looking at
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>>423899997
I dont think being incompetent qualifies as dishonest
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>>423899284
Literally who cares about some green fucker. Now if they fuck up Elora? Or the Fracture Hills fauns? That's an issue
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orbs don't bounce anymore
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>>423900335
LMAO that fucking shitty bright ass flash for no reason
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>>423900412
they're conditioning kids for lootboxes
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>>423900335
First thing to really bother me. It's like they have no attention to detail.
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It looks like fucking Fortnite
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>>423900335
what the fuck, fuck sony and activision
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>>423900435
More like lootbox kids are getting dev jobs now.
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>>423899284
>>423899687
>>423900335
it's fucking shrek
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>>423900502
Sony has nothing to do with this
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>>423900335
For some reason this bothers me more than the other shit.
I guess I could justify the rest as just hiccups in fully updating an old game to modern day, but this is just obnoxious.
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>>423900502
Sony doesn't make this shit
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>>423899284
Guy on the right reminds me of the mutt memes
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I liked the legend of spyro series more anyway
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>>423900502
This shit is also for XBONE, you know.
Nothing to do with Sony.
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>>423900631
>>423900564
Right, this is not a movie game with lesbians
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>>423900564
>>423900631
They should.
Nintendo didn't make Donkey Kong either. Doesn't mean they allow third parties to do whatever with it. They're aware of the value of their brand and they try to nurture it.

Meanwhile Sony is all.
Eh whatever, let them rape Crash and Spyro. What do we care? We've got Nathan Drake!
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>>423899284
The clothes seem good but they fully changed the face shape
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>>423900564
>>423900631
>>423900734
alright, but calm down
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>>423900734
Sony paid for it to be a timed exclusive since they knew people would get the pc/switch versions without the year long head start
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>>423900335
jesus fuck, the orb doesn't even look like an orb
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Why do western devs keep ruining childhoods?
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>>423900335
this reeks of placeholder animation
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>>423900335
disgraceful
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>>423900816
I want to punch your teeth in
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>>423899284
Why does the little green man look unintentionally a worried Pajeet ? The Facial structure is far off from the original.
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>>423900816
You do know Sony doesn't own Crash or Spyro and never has, right?
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>>423900948
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>>423901026
>The Facial structure is far off from the original.
The original has no facial structure.
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>>423901028
And?
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>It"s different
Oh nooo.........
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>>423899687
>fairy is now completely flat chest dressed like a nun
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>>423899639

This is the main problem with it
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original is a harmless , hard-working hippo guy
remake is some ugly illegal construction worker
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The crying over this remake fuels me.
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>>423901227
Nintendo owns the rights to Donkey Kong, always have, so it doesn't matter who Nintendo lets touch the IP, they still own it. Also, how the fuck do you think that Nintendo DIDN'T make the original Donkey Kong? You aren't so retarded you don't know about the original DK arcade game, right?
Sony never owned the rights to Crash or Spyro, so they don't get a say in what happens with it, because they don't hold the rights to either franchises and never have.
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is this picture accurate?
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>>423901581
I prefer the one on the right since he's less gross
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>>423901613
left i mean
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>>423901564
>Sony never owned the rights to Crash or Spyro, so they don't get a say in what happens with it
If they invested in them they would. But they didn't.
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I'm just excited to play through this to see what all the differences are, for better or for worse. If it's all the same as the original, what's the point?
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>the hammer NPC guys don't have protective goggles

ruined
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>>423899687
Why is the fairy dark-skinned now?

What is even the thought process of the developers who do this?

"Oh, and let's make her skin brown this time because..." ?
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I'm guessing it's being outsourced heavily to some 3rd world sweatshop or there's mutiple head of designs each doing their own thing. Maybe both.
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>>423901857
She's not dark skinned, it's just that the lighting sucks ass
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>>423899284
>people are actually ok with this
It's always good to know that I'm too old to be the target audience of one of my favorite series. And anything related to videogames I guess.
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>>423901696
Yeah, and they probably aren't hurt by it at all.
After all, both the N.Sane and Reignited are going to be on their platform, not exclusive but they'll be there.
They probably aren't kicking themselves over not grabbing Crash or Spyro either, they probably don't even think about it.
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>>423899687
holy fuck the dudes talking are so loud and annoying, I just wanna hear the music and sound effects
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>>423901886
She's obviously not pasty anymore.
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>>423899687
>>423901263
>>423901857
>>423899885
>>423901886
>>423900073
I'm more bugged that Zoe's outfit isn't even the right color anymore, she has always had yellow clothes, but this remake gave her brown colored clothes, mean whiles the random fairy from Spyro 1 pretty much is a much better translation of the design to modern graphics.
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the series didnt really need a remake. the low-poly style is charming
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>The proportions aren't even the same

Why make a cute fictional creature look human as fuck?
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>>423902112
yeah the originals still hold up and look fantastic, always gonna be hard replicating that low poly style to HD

though if this remake sparks new life into the franchise then I'm all for it
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>>423902115
they need the hollowed out eyes desu
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>>423899687
The only thing that looks bad is the text. The remake looks great and is proof that faggots will bitch about anything.
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>>423902112
This is honestly just a business decision to see if people are even still interested in Spyro, same thing with the Crash remake, its easier then making a completely new game, and if it sells well it will tell them if they should make new games.
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>>423899574
Is that city floating on a cloud of smog?
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>>423899687
I noticed the gem count actually counts up instead of going straight to the new number now.
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>>423900335
Man this one hurts. I'm still holding hope for the Medievil remake. I feel like it will be easier due to not as many small details.
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>>423899284
WHY IS IT SO FUCKING ORANGE AAAAAAAA
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>>423899687
Why is the text all fucked?
Why is the idolizers' face fucked up?
Why is the color so flat?
Why is there such intense bloom in all light sources?
Why are the enemies less intimidating?
Why are button prompts onscreen?
Why change the lightning bolt to a ball of light?
Why are screen transitions so abrupt?
Why does spyro move way too fast and still seem so lilting?
Why does ramming into enemies bounce him back?
Why couldn't they have the orbs bounce for fucks sake?
Why lie and call it a labor of love?
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>>423902115
I like these guys. Why are the designs so inconsistent, where some things look great while others look like they're from a whole different game?
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>>423899687
They raped the dialogue box
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Maybe they will fix it in the inevitable re re master for the ps5 plus pro gaymer edition.
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>>423899687
That UI makes me want to vomit, holy shit.
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>>423903265
>Why does ramming into enemies bounce him back?
holy fuck

holy fuck
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>>423899687
GIVE ME BACK MY SOUL AND I'LL RELEASE HIM
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I actually like the idol designs, but holy fuck the UI looks like a mobile game.
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>>423899885
At least we got the upskirt
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>>423899284
Why didn't they go with the design on the right? It looks so much better
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>powerup gate design unique to every level

Neat idea but it breaks some UX rules regarding familiarity and usability, same with the fireproof armors/shields all having different textures and reflection levels, they don't communicate that they're supposed to be the same well enough. The fonts are also not very readable.

And the NPC scenes break some basic framing rules when it comes dialogues, the camera placement seems arbitrary and inconsistent, when in the original all the positions were deliberate.

Couple this with all the color and animation complaints, and it seems like Toys for Bob doesn't really know a lot about most things necessary for game design.
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>>423900564
t. sony coder
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>>423901581
The right one still has a bit of soul left from the mspaint roughness
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>>423903812
Because they don't care about it as much as fans do.
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>>423900948
Jesus, Sony fans really are violent libtards.
Can't wait for Trump to slap some tariffs on your shit company.
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>>423903796
You can clearly see its a black void.
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>>423901916
>animeshitter thinks xir opinion matters
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>>423900335
Someone edit this with the spongebob movie bald scene
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>>423904686
Can't you do it? You clearly have the vision
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>>423903812
Because this game's main target audience is Skylanders' audience. You know, everyone's first Spyro game.
This remake only exists because they don't want to miss the hype train created by the new Crash game.
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>>423899687
water on ps1 is better
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>>423904976
explains why they are making characters like this green guy look cartoony-gross instead of fairy-taley (don't know how to explain)
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>original games have small but tightly designed levels
>use (invent) LOD, simple textures, and beautiful modeled skyboxes to mask this
>works wonderfully and we get the best of both worlds
>levels look and feel great and expansive

>remake gets announced with today's technology
>no need for LOD or simple textures - there's enough power to load everything at once
>these things alone would shatter the illusion of scale
>also skyboxes are now a single color because it's more realistic
>wonder what measures will the remake devs put in to avoid the world feeling cramped
>"I know, let's add tall fucking barriers everywhere so you can't see the sky ever!"

So not only did they not identify the problem and fail to do anything to fix it, they actually ADDED IN shit that makes it worse. What did we do to deserve this?
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>>423899687
>piss filter
>unironically a soulless text box and text
>zoe is now flat chested and her dress is puke orange for some reason
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>>423899687
We wuz faeries.
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>>423899284
ITT: retards whine about fucking nothing
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>>423899687
This looks great wow people bitch about anything holy shit. The only thing I agree on is the UI is not that great and zoe color changes but other than that this looks amazing
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how did they get away with this
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>>423899284
>>423899687
They want the Sonic audience, and you can't really blame them.
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Any footage of my nigger Bombo?
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>>423905292
>pink, fantasy mountains changed to boring regular mountains
I wonder if they'll keep the bad voice acting those wizards had
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>>423901857
>this is what /pol/ finds dark skinned now
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>>423905502
I hate this mobile game font. You half expect there to be an option
>Skip this Orb Challenge? $0.99
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What a shame
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Why are all the animations so fucking ugly?

Running looks ugly, bashing looks ugly, jumping looks ugly, swimming looks ugly, gliding looks ugly.
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>>423905884
I feel like this is something that's harsh at first but eventually you get used to, guess I'll just have to play it
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one question

why is everything so fucking yellow
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>>423900335
What the fuck is that basic unity ui
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>>423900335
Ten dollars says they're using the same exact animation as the talisman that you collect at the end iif each level
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It looks passable. I'm just glad they didn't use Skylanders Spyro.
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>>423905884

The worlds of Crash and Spyro are so fun and abstract in their original PS1 games. It's nice to see an update but they just look like generic cartoon worlds now. Out of everything this reminds me of YOOKA-LAYLEE compared to Banjo Kazooie.
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>>423899284
Why did you get rid of the nostrils though? They were there on the original.
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>>423899284
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>>423905789
This, fuck.
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Game looks amazing, leave it to /v/ to bitch about literally anything
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>>423905292
>modern games
>no need for LOD
really makes me think
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at least the concept art is pretty good
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>>423900294
>Now if they fuck up Elora? Or the Fracture Hills fauns? That's an issue
Head's in the right place, anon.
If they don't fuck up the designs then I'm hoping for a nice boom in fanart.
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>>423899284
Now remove the Bane jacket
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>still no FAUN
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>>423899687
Why the fuck is Foreman Bob smiling and doing the Bane pose?
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Fuck off
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>>423907205

IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY PAINFUL
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>>423899687
Tikis look great and most importantly, they fixed the hitboxes.
I hope every level won't have mountains/hills to hide the skybox. Autumn Plains in particular.
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>>423906986
Well with levels this small there isn't
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>>423899284
IS THIS GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST SOULLESS GAME OF THE YEAR /V/????
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>>423905645
Left has more contrast and complementary colors, so you're more drawn to it.
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>>423907195
Going by what they did to Zoe, there's like a 3% chance the other girls will be ok. Zoe doesn't even look THAT bad, but there's so many changes to her design that you just know they will take egregious amounts of artistic liberties with all the other characters. Elora pants confirmed.
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>>423903265
>Why does ramming into enemies bounce him back?
This is a nice touch. You shouldn't be able to run right through large/heavy enemies and IIRC you bounce back in the originals too.
>Why couldn't they have the orbs bounce for fucks sake?
Placeholder. It's using the talisman animation and is a 2D image
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>>423907321
Looking at their twitter and the trailer, there are some levels/areas where the skybox and horizon are done really well.
I'm quite shocked to see the ugly mountains in this new footage.
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what's their fucking problem with architecture?
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nope, seriously, why is it so yellow and purple?
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>>423907102
Why did they get rid of the brightness?
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>>423907554
They love their cobblestone
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>>423907579
aesthetics
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>>423903321
This happened with 1 as well. Some creatures made almost perfect 1:1 translations, and then others are totally out there.
Where is the art director?
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>>423907554
architecture doesn't fit in the narrow ideal of a fantasy world, where everything has to be some grassed cobblestone amalgam
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>>423907487
Like some anon said earlier this thread, the fairies in the first Spyro shown at E3 still have that original short dress, so it's not like they're scared of showing the female form.
I think they just wanted to give Zoe more detail than the others, to differentiate her as an important character, and they took it too far.
Even if they want to make the fauns more detailed, their only clothing is the tops. Not a lot to mess up.
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>>423907579
This is outdated and you should feel bad.
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>>423908039
still way too purple
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>>423907531
>Placeholder. It's using the talisman animation and is a 2D image

I've seen other people say this, and I hope to god you're right, but what evidence do we have that this isn't the animation for both the talismans and orbs? Why give them the benefit of the doubt if they felt they could show this off? Granted, they've changed plenty of other stuff so far, but I think they need to be told these things by fans. I just don't want more and more problems to be ignored because we assume their the placeholder. Are skyboxes placeholder? The font? The animations? Can they really make enough changes at this point?
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>>423899687
They didn't even try to keep the same aesthetics of the original level in this, absolutely disgusting.
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>>423900335
shit hurts my eyes!
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>>423899687
DUHHH HURP LOOKS FINE. IT's FINE. FINE
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>>423907963
They could very easily mess that up by giving them more clothes. These guys want to take the original simplicity and overlay their 'artistic direction' over the top of it.
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>>423905884
>only one crates explodes

WHAT THE FUCK!?
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>>423907554
>Adding unnecessary details to things all while unnecessarily removing details

How hard was it just to improve upon the originals without going fucking overboard and adding a shitload of changes? You had one job and that was to improve upon the models from the first games. The character and NPC dialogue camera angles aren't even right for fuck sakes.
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>>423908152
>but what evidence do we have that this isn't the animation for both the talismans and orbs?
None so far, it's just a logical assumption. They intentionally avoided showing off the talisman so I think it's safe to say they're both using the same animation until they finish the orb animation.
I'd find it very strange if they keep this animation for obtaining orbs from NPCs when there's 3D orbs in the world for you to collect.
>I just don't want more and more problems to be ignored because we assume their the placeholder
I'm not saying to ignore them, just keep in mind the game isn't finished yet. Tell them, but don't flip the table.
Someone on youtube got to play Spyro 2 at their studio a week or two back and said the devs are well aware of the issues people are bringing up. There's still plenty of time to fix most of them before release.
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>>423908445
Because they're lazy and are most likely reusing assets.
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>>423908358
If they get so carried away that they add clothing to the fauns' design, we'll be able to conclusively say there's something wrong with their branes.
Lengthening a dress is one thing, messing up a thousands year old design is another.
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>>423908571
>branes
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>>423908438
The sides of the webm are cut off, both crates do explode, the original video shows two icons popping up.
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>>423908152
>>423908486
game comes out in like 2 months
dont expect anything to change
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>>423899687
I really love how the water is now all murky and shitty looking instead of transparent, so you can't see what's underneath from the surface.
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>>423908486
It's good to be hopeful, and it does make me feel a lot better when we see they are in fact listening to fans and making changes. There's just a lot of reasonable criticism in these threads that get discredited by memes, and while I see some of this criticism elsewhere, there's a lot of dev dicksucking going on too. I think it's healthy to have this balance.
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>>423900335
soul vs soulless
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>>423908803
The worst part is you're probably right. Even if they change everything that the fans complain about, there's still like 80 levels they haven't shown at all. It's going to be really hit or miss given the track record. Spyro 3 will be a complete clusterfuck and we're only going to know a couple weeks before release.
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>>423907531
>IIRC you bounce back in the originals too
Absolutely not, go back and play Cliff Town or Misty Bog. You can ram through like 10 guys all in a row, feels satisfying as hell.
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>>423909706
>thread is about Idol Springs and Spyro 2
>start talking about Cliff Town and Misty Bog
yikes...
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>>423899284
Yeah, I like the dot eyes more.
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>>423909706
https://youtu.be/xt3aHVsfg5c
Go to 14:05 and check out that bounceback. Some enemies you could, and some you couldn't
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>>423909639
I don't have as much confidence in this as I did with the Crash trilogy, which had its flaws but overall was pretty good because its style wasn't one of its biggest advantages.

With Spyro the music and style of the levels have a much bigger impact on the quality of the game, so there's a lot more opportunities for them to fuck up and ruin the overall feel of the level. It's pretty annoying that every time they reveal a new level there's numerous issues with it and fans have to tell them how to fix it. That can't happen for every level.

Probably gonna reveal Spyro 3 real late so they don't have enough time to fix it.
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>>423899284
Soul -> No Soul -> Some Soul
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>>423900335
Unironically soul vs soulless. That animation and the sound effects of the orbs bouncing are the type of details that everyone remembers from their childhood when playing Spyro 2. Absolutely nobody is going to give a shit about that generic flashy effect of the remake.
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>>423899284
10000 hours in ps
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>>423910023
still needs the blueprints in his hand but aside from that, not bad
also his jacket is fucking gay
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>>423910023
Pretty good. Also feel like the model should be "squashed" a bit to make him look more stubby.
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>>423899284
Disgusting. He looks like the kind of guy who does drugs and probably drinks on the weekends after work
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>>423904354
Just Like real women
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>>423899687
They really are just making this for the fucking Skylanders fans, aren't they. I'm half expecting them to insert characters from Skylanders and set this up as the prequel for how he gets to Skyland or whatever. Maybe Cynder will be in this after all.
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>sh*ders
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>>423910328
I like this. Could maybe do with the pits being black (like the originals) instead of the green mist but it still looks nice.
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>>423910023
Love it.
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>>423909949
>Spyro 3 real late so they don't have enough time to fix it
bro do you realize games are finished way before theyre released
theyre probably all finished
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>>423899284
what the fuck, WHAT THE FUCK
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>>423899687
The UI is terrible.
That's it. You autists are getting mad for nothing, it looks great otherwise.
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>>423910490
Maybe, I'm saying they probably won't show footage of it until really late so they won't give themselves time to fix the issues the fans speak up about.
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>>423899687
Devs need to learn that less is sometimes more
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>>423910490
>games are finished way before theyre released
Maybe 10 years ago. When you can just force a day-1 patch why would you bother finishing the game before going gold?
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>>423899284
It's the guy from Linkin park?
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>>423899574
Looks like herb
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>>423910660
kek
do you think a patch will fix awful art direction?
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>>423909949
Crash just has a MUCH more simple art style, that is "somewhat cartoony realism with cartoon characters". You don't even have to try hard to make something look like a Crash game. The only places they actually fucked up in the remake are in the places where they fucked up objective graphics things like the bad lighting and water effects in 2.

Spyro has a much more specific style, these remakes aren't getting it, and what they're trying to do instead isn't better than the original.
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>>423899284
Both look like shit
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>>423905645
>a myopics review
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>>423910490
They've actually shown us that they want to/will change things based on fan feedback. The color of the grass in Stone Hill is a good example, also the gem counter going up incrementally instead of jumping to the new value. The thing is, there's too many flaws to fix, let alone the things we aren't going to see at all before release. They are clearly still working on it though.
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The remake feels like their only reference for the visuals was a vocal description by a stuttering guy who once saw the game being played through a display window 20 years ago.
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>>423899687
pig disgusting. I was hype when they first announced it but the more I see of this the more lit looks like uninspired, bland shit. they clearly don't give a fuck about the spyro games, they just want to cash in.
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>>423907610
Because they made the concept art after the fact.
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>>423907554

I think I finally realized why the changes annoy me so much. They look way too 'Disney'
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>>423899284
This is beyond soulless, this game has a soul deficit
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>>423910328

that hyper additive orange/yellow is ugly as fuck but the rest of it looks alright.
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>>423900335

This is an unbelievable level of knit-picking and it really shows that you're determined to dislike this lel
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>>423900882
it is happening in all of western entertainment so part of me feels like it is the smarter old generation retiring and the mediocre newbie generation taking over. one learned soul from their upbringing and the other has yet to learn
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>>423905768
shes literally brown bro.
also I know you love the /pol/ boogieman but can you not mention them every fucking thread faggot?
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>>423912258
Why do you get so defensive about /pol/ being mentioned? Stupid faggot.
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>>423905768
>>423912258
yep time to abandon thread

nothing to see 'ere no more
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>>423912326
Not him but it's clear /v/ is basically reddit reskinned.

Replace /pol/ with The_Donald and you get the same shitty argument
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>>423912083
You can't be serious. Please tell me you're baiting.
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lmao they thought those were jackets
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>>423899284
I loved spyro and thought the crash remake was done brilliantly, but this just looks utter shit. They've paid no mind whatsoever to the tone of the series and just shoved in some generic pixar style.
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oh nonononononoNONONONONONONO
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>>423912773
I noticed something, how come the baskets and the vases are so fucking small?
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>>423899687
This is so fucking awful Jesus Christ
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Is no one happy that our favorite 3 Spyro games have been remade? I get that people don't like the UI or how the Orbs don't bounce or how the Foremans look too happy despite their unfortunate circumstances or how the time of day isn't right.

BUT GUYS...

Have you forgotten what we're excited for? What we've demanded for so many years? The OG Spyro Trilogy has been remade for modern consoles. BE GRATEFUL

Are a few misplaced aesthetics going to ruin the game? Is Nestor's hat automatically gonna make the entire Reignited Trilogy suck? NO!

I understand that people want the game to be faithful but for God's sake! You have to expect a remake to be different in some ways.

Outright saying that you're worried or the hype is diminishing just because of minor details is absurd.

I'm not saying "Don't be constructively critical." Because constructive criticism is good. I encourage it.

But don't shoot down everyone else's hype just because you don't like a few small things.
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>>423912874
Which subreddit did you copypaste this from?
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>>423899687
Pure fucking garbage. Should be in prison for this
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>>423912773
I didn't want to believe that's what that thing was when I watched it the first time, but holy fuck. Just holy fuck.

HOLY FUCK
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>>423899284
>>423899687
>>423900335
looks a thousands times better than the original no idea why you fags are complaining
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>>423912874
please be only pretending
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>>423912931
>>423912874
lol found it

https://www.reddit.com/r/Spyro/comments/8y9agy/why_cant_anyone_seem_to_be_happy_its_honestly/
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>>423912642

they still have the overalls, though?
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>>423912773
Is not a piece of ceramic you fucking shits! Are they oblivious of what wicker is??
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>>423913061
based
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>>423913061
Made me giggle
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>tfw I haven't played the original so I don't care
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>>423912083
terrible bait
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even the cover has too much shit happening in the background
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>>423907554
Does everything in the original have to be a completely flat texture?
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>>423899687
Not even crash remaster was that bad ffs
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>>423900335
lmao even the fucking particle effects around the orb shrink together with it when it starts disappearing instead of fading on their own. this means they tied the particles together with the model. what a fucking hack job of shit.
>doesn't rotate
>doesn't come from the foreman
>is completely white and transparent due to the shit stock lightning
this is fucking atrocious. honest to God let's hope this is just placeholders and they'll fix this shit when the game gets released
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>>423913702
how old are you
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Treasure this time we have before TfB ruins the best Spyro character. Once they reveal her redesign, things will never be the same.
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>>423913787
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>>423905292
if you really think there isn't LOD in the modern one, you are a retard.
Unless you have no idea what LOD means in game development.
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>>423908957
Nice
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>>423914001
goddamn he looks fucking stupid when he swims quickly now
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>>423913795
Can't wait for the inevitable wacky ass Skylanders-tier design.
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>>423913639
Dreamworks face.
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>>423899284
>complaining about visual changes
Don't really get it, just play the original if you want those visuals so badly.
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>>423913639
>>423914269
THIS
WHY THE FUCK THEY GAVE HIM THAT FUCKING LOOK?
I could pass Crash having that look since he already had that in the original 2 and 3 but why even Spyro?!
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>>423913061
what makes reddit be so reddit? what about the site makes the people there act so retarded?
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>>423914604
literally the first game you mongoloid
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>>423899284
>they just made him a nigger

but why?
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>>423914001
what the fuck? is he getting propelled by the force of his farts or something?
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>>423899687
That new bottom totem pole thing doesn't look scary at all... I remember being scared of it as a kid.
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They're not cute anymore, just retarded.
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>>423899687
wow this makes me want to get the originals instead of the new games. so many things look downright awful and reek of generic bland art style. they did very few things right (spyro looks good for the most part)
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>>423914940
That's cute.
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>>423899687
I love how the flame doesn't even come close to hitting the fish. They just didn't give a single fuck did they.
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I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL
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>>423914940
I'm gradually losing all excitement I had for this when it was first revealed
holy fuck
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I'm glad they are previewing it so much, otherwise I might have actually bought it
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>>423899284
Do the soldiers in the first game still show booty? Please tell me they didnt remove it.
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>>423899687
why is the fairy brown and boring
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
literally a testimony to how these remakes are garbage
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>>423915371
they haven't shown it
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>>423915214
Then don't play it, imbecile
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>>423915371
What?
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>>423912109
It's an effort fueled by corporations to streamline and speedup production, these types of samey ''moba'' visuals
are designed to be easily mass produced and now are being inserted into every slightly cartoony game on the market.
People who work on this stuff are your hundreds and hundreds of amateur attendees at ''game art schools'' and similar places where they teach them a recipe or two that they can proceed to repeat ad nauseam.
They also get direct ties to large companies and that's why that is the general default you'll get. Same thing goes for typical AAA-type games and the movie industry and it's only gotten worse.

In these circumstances you simply cannot expect your typical randomly assigned art director and his team working on this remake to even consider
properly translating designs and art because they simply aren't capable of comprehending a certain style philosophy that they weren't force-fed to make.
They look at these old games and say ''yep, we can now make it look like other cartoony games on the market''. and then proceed to randomly redesign things just for the sake of it. That is all.

And there will be no consideration given to what the old art was trying to communicate or convey, which can be honestly easily read even from ps1 restrictions. Shapes, colours and textures are all there to imply things.
A strong art vision is exactly that, and it will permeate through technical limitations.
Which is why remakes of specific games like Spyro need to be handled very carefully, and that is something that this team is simply not capable of.
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>>423915502
I won't, but the point you're missing is that I'm not a special snowflake, many other people like me exist. And they also won't play.
You fucking retard.
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>>423912874
I'd rather have a brand new game, than another remake.
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Welp, I wanted to buy this back then.
But now, then they showed how they butchered my favorite 2nd game... Even Crash wasn't that shitty.
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>>423914762
Yeah now show me that look in the in-game model you double mongoloid.
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>>423915715
It looks like a porn artist drew this.
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Such drama queens.
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>>423916060
Forgot pic
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>>423914001
Is he humping the water?
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>>423914001
>no extra bubbles to show increased oxygen consumption

Why do we even play VIDEO games anymore?
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>>423916118
There are people actively ruining our childhoods, let us vent.
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>>423900335
>making you blind one orb at the time
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>>423903859
>Neat idea but it breaks some UX rules regarding familiarity and usability
Can you not see the bigass symbol?
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>>423900442
>no attention to detail
>even though the new animation has plenty of new particle systems

kill yourself, nondev
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>>423900335
This should be the actual definition of Soul vs Soulless
not the usual "Muh 90's CGI and crappy plastic lighting"
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>>423900335
the fucking gem counter looks ass
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>>423913778
>they tied the particles together with the model

you literally have no idea what youre talking about
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>>423916657
As a dev you're full of shit
"new particle systems" my fucking ass. It looks atrocious
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>>423914001
>wings aren't moving
>bubbles aren't showing
They made the impossible task to make the original look like the remaster
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>>423916657
>more particles means attention to detail

Uh-huh. Also if you knew the first thing about Spyro 2, you'd know that is the animation for Talismans so recycling shit for different purposes is the OPPOSITE of attention to detail.
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>>423916785
>as a dev

i'm sorry that youre buttblasted about your nostalgia game getting btfo, but if a change in animation and character design is enough to make you not play this game then you really didnt give a fuck about the gameplay and what made spyro fun. spyro didnt have fucking good graphics in the first place, so what does it matter if its atrocious?

fuck you and fuck your 'it needs to capture the nostalgia' mentality
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>>423916597
You underestimate the stupidity of the average person, let alone child
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>>423916657
lol it fucking screams animation that comes with 3d software, its like they just took the first particle effect they could find and went yep thatll work
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>>423906602
You're not seriously trying to force yourself as 'thread culture' are you? stay to /b/ or something fagwad
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>>423917306
no it literally doesnt. why dont you go through the animation and count all the effects and particles? because i found 7
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>>423917076
Wow nice baseless assumptions my friendo. I didn't say a single thing relating to your post. I know this is a pasta anyway but on the off-chance you're posting it with genuine intent:
you're a mongrel. I love the spyro trilogy and will play this game because of my love for the originals. this new one looks like complete and utter garbage graphically and fits the problem of most modern games ideology being "throw tech at it and it's automatically better". if you think it looks good then you have no taste and no knowledge about anything related to art and graphic design in video games. this is stock shit and the equivalent of pre-made textures/particles. this does not look good even from an art style perspective because all the new npc designs are trash
you're the fucking problem.
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>>423917439
would you like to tell me why it looks atrocious then my buddy dude man
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>>423917076
>spyro didnt have fucking good graphics in the first place, so what does it matter if its atrocious?

I can't believe I just read this. If you're not baiting, I feel sorry for you.
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>>423917552
>my buddy dude man
You seem more upset at this than you should be.
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>>423900335
This is the true sin of this remake.
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>>423917638

well when somebody says atrocious they usually mean that the graphics are bad. unless you're trying to argue that the animations convey a different feeling than the old ones, then sure, they do, but i dont think that its necessarily worse. they both have tension, its just that one is more flashy.
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>>423917076
Is the shill meme real? Am I being baited? Nigger the fucking graphics are the entire selling point of this remaster in the first place. I've been playing the originals for 20 years, I can go back to them at any point. It's a given that they should play the same, so all that's left is whether it looks better or not.
>spyro didnt have fucking good graphics in the first place
Spyro looked a hell of a lot better than any other console game out in 1998.
>3D gradient mesh skybox
>large scale, long distance
>beautiful texture mapping
>fucking portals
>3D HUD (in the first one, at least)
>3D lettering all over (in the first one, at least)
>well rendered NPCs
>items are 3D models, not sprites
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>>423917552
Why should I? You've clearly made your mind up that you're going to defend this game to your grave for some reason.
Waaah I'm a game developer why are we all so bullied when we do terrible work for money! Waah! So oppressed
You make me want to get out of this industry rather than try to make it better. Fuck off
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>>423917762
this wasnt the answer i was looking for, therefore im now even madder my dude bro guy friend
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>>423917834
>calling me a shill

look my dude bro man, the graphics arent even bad. spyro always had a cartoony, goofy vibe to it. now there's just more detail and polygons.
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>>423912642
The old ones looked like cute creatures.
The remake looks like sandniggers.
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>>423917857
because i value a discussion highly and i think that a lot of people are hating on this game because they dont like change/nostalgia. if you want to hate on the game because you think the changes are bad, feel free to, but i dont see in any way how the changes negatively impact the game.
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>>423904354
what you think there are street lights inside a pussy?
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>>423899687
What's up with the voice acting? I don't remember those foremen sounding like that.
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>>423918005
>I am legally blind: the post
You have no idea what you're talking about. If you're really the guy who said he's supposedly a developer then I'd have to agree with the other dev guy - you're the cancer killing this industry. If you seriously look at this game and can't fathom where the complaints are coming from then you need to stop posting and go quit your job.

>>423918149
So listing all the issues that negatively impact the tone, feeling and general attitude of the game don't negatively impact the game as a whole? Are you fucking retarded?
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SPYWO!!! SPYWO DE DWAGWON!!!!!!!!!! SPYWO WEWAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>423899798
no, they only watch movies
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>>423914001
They tranformed a reef into a pond.
GG no re
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>>423917782
You're the one that used the word atrocious. You're probably the same guy who said count the particles. I don't feel like I really need to explain why the new orb animation is bad or why the old one is good. It's all subjective, which is where the whole soul/souless meme came from. That doesn't mean that I can't hold my opinion, or look down on you for yours. I think you're just here to argue though.
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Daily reminder that better graphics doesn't automatically equal good or better art direction.
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>>423918291
>tone
>feeling
>attitude

oh my fucking buzzwords. those all fucking mean the same thing.
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>>423899574
They did. And guess what? Every single one of them made it vastly better!
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>>423900335
Holy shit, it's fucking soulless.
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>>423918465
None of those are buzzwords when it comes to art design in a videogame non-devkun
If there is no purpose for why what you're creating looks the way it does then it is garbage. if what you're creating does not inflict some kind of response even as small as "that's a pretty thing tree" then you have failed
If what you're creating does not contribute to the overall attitude of a game be it whimsical, hardened or somber etc then you have failed.
You know nothing
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>>423918514
That does not look better at all.
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>>423899687
Not gonna lie, the environment looks awesome.
Those characters, on the other hand, are horrendous.
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>>423918514
That's not so bad aside from the fucking bloom.
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>>423915715
Just waiting for the mongrels comparing him to trump
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>>423918390
>You're the one that used the word atrocious.
in response to someone saying it, yes
>You're probably the same guy who said count the particles.
yup. because more particles and effects require more scripting or attention to detail
>I don't feel like I really need to explain why the new orb animation is bad or why the old one is good. It's all subjective, which is where the whole soul/souless meme came from. That doesn't mean that I can't hold my opinion, or look down on you for yours. I think you're just here to argue though.

you're right on one thing, i am here just to argue. you can hate the direction of the art style, you can call it subjective, but that doesnt mean you cant argue about it. the only reason i could see someone not liking the new art style is because they dont like change and they want to capture the feelings they had when playing the game as a child. if you want to fucking capture that feeling, replay that fucking game.
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>>423918279
Didn't they say they were re-recording all the dialogue?
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>>423900882
This is correct. Dogs don't have souls.
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>>423918782
Damn, I didn't know that.
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ITS OKAY WHEN SONY DOES IT
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>>423913819
yikes
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>>423918763
So what you're saying is
>I LIKE THIS
>HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE THIS
>YOU JUST HATE CHANGE
basically saying you're a massive faggot who can't understand opinions at all. not to mention that your opinion is fucking stupid considering you clearly are just looking at the overall image with inexperienced eyes and saying, "OO SHINY".
I'll say it again. You have no idea what you're talking about. You are arguing for a pointless reason and intent considering the complaints do not fit this narrative you want to portray.
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>>423899687
Man, I was hating the whole shitposting when this remastered was revealed, but this level really doesn't compare to how it was when I was younger.
This is basically what happens when you don't respect the original art style.
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>>423918598
>none of those are buzzwords

they literally are, and you werent reading my post. i was commenting on how you used three different words that convey the same meaning.

>If there is no purpose for why what you're creating looks the way it does then it is garbage.
but there is a purpose. like i said previously, the different animation conveys the same tension as the old animation but the flashy nature is akin to a 'ding' animation, where its trying to make you feel more happy from accomplishing something.

>if what you're creating does not inflict some kind of response even as small as "that's a pretty thing tree" then you have failed
it does 'inflict' a response, just not the same one you had as a child.

>If what you're creating does not contribute to the overall attitude of a game be it whimsical, hardened or somber etc then you have failed.
You know nothing
xD right because spyro wasnt fucking cartoony in the past
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>>423900335
Okay fuck this shit, how can they not get the most basic shit right ffs???
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>>423918961
no, my argument is not pointless. i'm trying to combat people like:
>>423918962

people who say its shit because it doesnt capture the same feeling as when they were a child.
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>>423917076
>spyro didnt have fucking good graphics in the first place
yes it fucking did. it was beautiful and still is.
>so what does it matter if its atrocious?
>who cares if half the game is shit?
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>>423919168
no, spyro had a good art style. for its time you could argue it had good graphics but i wouldn't agree with that.

the only changes made to the art style are that there are more polygons, more detail, more effects, more particles, etc. it still captures the same feeling, just not the feeling you had when you were a child playing games. sorry, but you're an adult now.
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>>423899574
What are some games where I can water and mow my lawn?
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>>423912874
Whenever faggots like you chime in trying to tell us that we should be grateful someone raped a franchise we hold dear, it just makes me want to troll the devs into getting themselves banned off Twitter/fired from the company.
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>>423918991
>they literally are
They literally aren't but I'm not here to teach you a class on art styles and graphic design.
>but there is a purpose. like i said previously, the different animation conveys the same tension as the old animation but the flashy nature is akin to a 'ding' animation, where its trying to make you feel more happy from accomplishing something.
So entirely different purposes then. A completely different tone for the piece. Gives a different feeling upon viewing. Fails to fit the attitude of the overall game with its 'flashy' nature.
>t does 'inflict' a response, just not the same one you had as a child.
Irrelevant response. Does not fit anywhere regarding my post. Stop moving the goalposts retard
>xD right because spyro wasnt fucking cartoony in the past
Did I say that? No I didn't. You're a retard. The games are both cartoony if you want to be a basic mongrel resorting to horrible genres of style like that. The difference in for your terms would be 'how' they are cartoony.
You seriously know nothing. Just because you've made and RPGmaker game does not make you a dev.
This is my job. I have worked on games you have played, I can guarantee.
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>>423918763
Thanks for being honest, nondevkun. I don't feel like writting out a super critical analysis on 4-chan at the moment, but everyone in the thread thinks you're a faggot. If they weren't remaking a beloved 90's game, you'd have a stronger point.
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>>423919320
>The only changes made to the art style
>Literally took the purple magical mountain range and made it look like that Nepal Overwatch level
There's literally no purple in that particular comparison
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So how does Tara Kroft look?
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>>423919128
>randomly tagging me into your shitty conversation just so you can prove a point
Fuck off nigger. I never said I flat out said it was shit, I'm iffy on the art style presentation.
I'll gladly stick to the originals and let people play the remasters if that's what they want.
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>>423919618
Have a good night and remember that you are horrible at what you do.
You are being laughed at and nobody likes you. You do not belong on this website and never will.
Good luck! :-)
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>>423899687
Looks fucking great
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>>423919458
We don't even know how the fauns look yet. They just started showing 2, I can't imagine they'll be showing shit from 3 until like right before it releases, which will unfortunately also prevent them from taking any feedback to make it not look like garbage.
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>>423919320
>the only changes made to the art style are that there are more polygons, more detail, more effects, more particles, etc.
those things have nothing to do with art style you bumbling retard
stop posting
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>>423919618
good one
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>This thread
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>>423899284
>npc is white and brown
>remake is brown and red

Why the fuck was this change necessary? Why do they pull this random shit? What difference does it make in the final product to be slightly less faithful? Its just like they change it for the sake of changing it

LITERALLY NON IRONICALLY SOULESS
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>>423919628
I utterly hate how they put a coat over his overalls.
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>>423919789
That's a bad image anon. Both of those have soul
Make one with the old simpsons intro and the new one
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>>423899687
(((Western))) """""artists""""" are such fucking trash.
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>>423919446
>change
change isn't bad

>>423919386
>completely different tone
it conveys a tone fit for spyro. it does not convey the same way when you were a child playing spyro.

>>423919475
sorry i was using you as an example

>>423919402
>nondevkun
:)
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>>423919936
>Change isn't bad
>Literally claimed there were no changes
not an argument :)
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>>423912998
>HURR DURR A GAME RELEASED 20 YEARS LATER HAS BETTER MODELS BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY ADVANCED IN THOSE 20 YEARS, SO IT MEANS THE ART DESIGN AND COLOR CHOICES ARE BETTER!
You are some special kind of retard right? Check the colors picks, its all superior in the original version
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>>423919829
>Couldn't tell that the purpose of that image is to make fun of the soul vs soulless meme
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>>423919936
>sorry i was using you as an example
It's okay, I forgive you. :)
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>>423919320
The art style has no more thought put into it.
Everything looks like a first draft of some medieval fantasy mobile game.
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>>423899687
Why does a fairy need fucking pauldrons?
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>>423919936
I'm bored replying to you and I have actual work to do now. See my reply here: >>423919715
Oh and btw good luck with the release of the game. I 100% believe that you're either a giant onion who has never made a functioning, decent game in his life or you're a developer on this title.
If it is the latter then I can't wait to have your shit tank just for the pompous 'trolling'
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>>423919051
they literally don't give a fuck. they just want to shit this thing out, get paid and fuck off. most likely never played the originals.
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>>423899284
I'll stick to the originals. Too bad Sony isn't putting PS1 games on PS4 for some reason.
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>>423920007
>claimed there were no changes
literally never did this

>>423920064
>the art style has no more thought put into it
i disagree with this entirely, and its hard to argue this point because i dont know how much time was put into the first and the original.
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>>423899997
>dishonest remakes
>>423900198
>This but unironically
What the fuck do faggots even mean by "dishonest"? It's a remake of a twenty year old game made by entirely different people with entirely different technology. If you retards thought for even one second that it was going to look the same you should slap your mother for drinking so heavily while pregnant
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His soul and aesthetic: gone.
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>>423900335
Notice how Spyro reacts to the orb in the original game, but how he looks dead and stiff in the new one. He doesnt react at all.

Non ironically the original version has more detail and care.
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Looking at the clips of the original games I can't help but think of that thread yesterday about really nice low-poly games. Spyro looks aesthetic as fuck man
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>>423899687
First Magic Crafters, now this. I wonder why they're just throwing mountain ranges everywhere, they think people won't like it because it's unrealistic or something? Like the terrain has to make real world sense?
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>>423919320
The colors are nowhere near as vibrant and literally anyone should be able to see that. The skyboxes are worse too.
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>>423899885
>censorship
I long for the day faggots like you die out
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>>423920284

this

old spyro is a disney movie character while new spyro is the animatronics they put in the amusement park
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>>423920057
>Couldn't tell that the purpose of that image is to be a retard and stifle discussion
you're right, my mistake for believing people can be decent
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>>423920209
You're right sorry
>the only changes made to the art style
you're still 500% wrong.
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It looks like something a guy would make in Unreal Engine and put up on YouTube, and everyone would be a lot more forgiving because it's literally one guy making a fanproject in Unreal Engine and being overenthusiastic with the art changes and abundance of bloom, instead of a team of professional artists and coders being overenthusiastic with the art changes and abundance of bloom
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Question /v/

If this remake bothers your autism, why don't you just play the originals?
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>>423920340
>the colors are nowhere near as vibrant
okay thats a valid criticism, and id agree with that for the most part
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>>423914940
This animation was in the original.
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>>423920504
If people's opinions on the changes makes you upset, why don't you just close the thread?
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>>423920470
well of course they changed the graphics, its a remaster of a 20 year old game my dude senpai bro guy
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>>423900816
>Nintendo didn't make Donkey Kong either.
You're retarded
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>>423920504

I don't have a ps2 and a VCR TV on me. Playing on an emulator would be souless.
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>>423920612
So you admit you're wrong. Glad we can end this conversation.
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You know I was pretty OK with everything so far, I like how the game looks and the environment, I can even get some of the character models but they freaking ruined the fairy, I have no hopes for the rest of the female cast
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>>423899687
Problems I have:
UI and the font especially is disgusting.
NPCs are ugly, some anon did a better recreation.
Everything looks cramped as instead of a skybox shot there's a cliff in the way.

At least the enemies are decent.
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>>423920521
THE COLORS ARE ALL
DIFFERENT YOU STUPID FUCK

ALSO THEY MANAGED TO MAKE ANIMATIONS WORSE DESPISE 20 YEARS OF TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCE
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>>423899687
>the water looked better on psx
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>>423899284
Spyro looked like shit day 1 anyway. Typical ps1 shovelware game.
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>>423920697
i wasnt arguing that they changed anything in the first place

i'm trying to argue that with adma on ake tub out toke lae back
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>People call me a dumb nostalgiafag for shitting on the new Crash remake
>Spyrofags are now suffering the same fate
>mfw

Also enjoy the new wave of people who will always remember Spyro like this and even say they liked it
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>>423920825

That's cause you were already 30 years old when spyro launched, adults don't have any soul.
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>>423920561
They don't make me upset, I just find funny how people are heavily emotional invested on this game

Anyway, the remake will get great reception and sales regardless of/v/eddit rant
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>/v/ would rather not play games than play an old good one with different graphics
just get a wife and kids already you fucking boomers
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>>423920825

>>423917834
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>>423920863
Please review your posts before you post again, phone posting scum.
>>423920963
>/v/eddit
Ironic, it's the redditors that are in love with this remake.
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>>423920952
The difference was Crash had a TERRIBLE new model and passable environments, whereas Spyro has a great new model and terrible animations for it and TERRIBLE environments
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>>423918313
SPYWO??
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>>423921193
>strokeposting is now phoneposting
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>>423920963
>sales = quality!
JW Fallen Kingdom has already made over a billion dollars.
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>>423920962
I'm actually 28 but that's mainly because I was a richfag and I've played better games like banjo-kazooie and half-life 1 which were released at the same time than spyro.
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>>423919825
He has a coat in the old game, it's just the same color as his shirt.
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>>423919458
Like nu-Lara.
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>>423899687
SKYLESS
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>>423921217
>passable environments
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>>423920209
>i disagree with this entirely
Let's think about this
>Unique palettes and lighting chosen for readability and deliberated over to gives levels a certain feeling
Gone. Many levels reuse assets, many elements have stopped being nearly as readable and most of the levels look generic.
>Interesting aesthetics for levels
Generic medieval designs that barely reflect what the levels are supposed to be.
>Texturework required to make a low poly game look good
Not considered anymore when you can just bump up the polycount
>Simple but good character designs
The dragons in the Original game now look immensely cluttered, the characters seen in the second game so far are just bad.
>Enemy designs
Look like mobile game enemies, especially the Generic and Normal Orcs who now fill in for the Gnorcs. Much like the character designs seen in the second game these have problems that can be quickly identified by people who have eyes in their head.
>Animations
Oftentimes worse where it matters. Spyro flies and swims awkwardly for instance.
>UI
Cancer

>>423920504
Would have been neat to see and play the old game's aesthetics in a 2018 game considering that every Spyro game since the OT has been uniquely hideous. Shitting on the game is largely because the game itself is bad on its own merits.

>>423920952
Spyro just immediately started with images of shit that was blatantly wrong and nothing else to discuss about it other than how it looked so it got dogpiled as an easy bait topic that could be started with an image and little else.
Crash also has issues but it's fairly apparent why this was the outcome.
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>>423912998
t. zoomer
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>>423921730
You're arguing with an autist that two posts ago claimed nothing but textures was changed and now claims he did not say this. You should just stop.
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>>423921717
>Spyro remake puts cobblestone where none ever existed
>Crash remakes actual cobblestone with neatly placed bricks
This is some sick joke
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>>423921349
The remake will have solid good gameplay

/v/edditors are just complaining about muh grafix
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>>423921852
see
>>423917834
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>>423918514
Pic unrelated, I presume?
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>>423921935
Muh grafix, muh childhood, muh nostalgia googles
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>>423920504
I do though? I still play the N64 BK games regularly. If Banjo Threeie came out and looked like Yooka Laylee, I would be pretty upset.
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What the fuck went so wrong after the PS1 era? I just don't understand. This extends far beyond remakes and remasters as well.
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>>423910023
twelve seconds in paint
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>>423922019
Muh not an argument ;)
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>>423921717
Why is everything so fucking washed out, why can't we have colorful games anymore?
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>Zoe isn't sexy

THEY HAD ONE JOB ABOVE ALL ELSE AND THEY BLEW IT
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>>423922207
But nobody is complaining except /v/edditors, the remake looks fine, I already preordered three copies, one for my gf, another for my bro and one for me.
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>>423917834
Do you realize that this screenshot was taken from an emulator at 5x it's native resolution?
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>>423921796
Seriously. This is the same guy that said
>so what does it matter if its atrocious?

Why are we still giving him you's?
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>>423899687
Mixed bag, but an overall improvement. I have high hopes.

Good:
>much improved gliding animation (seriously guys it's something you see a couple times every minute; it needs to look spectacular)
>Colors look nice and saturated. Spyro always stands out, which is good.
>A lot of nice environmental touches
>Most of the swimming animations look good, especially slow surface swimming
>VA work is quality.
>The sparkles associated with collecting gems are no longer obnoxiously overbearing
>I like the enemy/NPC designs, personally. Good job on the cooking pot lid shields.
>I can't exactly say why but I think Sparx looks better than last time. Definitely more faithful color reproduction.

Bad:
>That fast swimming animation looks terrible
>Gems still hang around Spyro's body too long when they're being collected. They should vanish immediately as soon as they contact his hitbox
>Mountains cover up the skybox too much; I feel we should have at least one perfect vista per level.
>While Zoe looks fine, she's not very faithful to the original (give her chest back you cowards), and she should probably have a glowing effect around her. Her wings should also have some kind of shimmer.
>That UI is honestly shitty. I don't know why I hate it so much, but I do. It reminds me of a cheap mobile game. It doesn't feel Spyro-like.
>Orb animation looks cheap
>Gem counter still isn't 3D; c'mon guys, it shouldn't be THAT hard.
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>>423922324
Meanwhile you redditors are defending a game that looks nothing like the original.
>I pre-ordered three copies out of spite
Literally a redditor.
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>>423921852
Whats wrong with complaining about graphics when thats all this remake is? If gameplay is the only thing that matters just play the ps1 trilogy and save yourself $60.
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>>423918714
>Pointing out that drumpf looks evil is a big no-no
Every time.
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>>423922149
There we go
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>>423920360
Funny because I long for the day faggots like you are removed from society.
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>>423922492
>preordered three copies out of spite

No my man, I preordered because I love this remake, I like the new artstyle and the several quality of life enhancements

>>423922494
I don't mind the new graphics, they look lovely and I want to support Spyro so we get new games
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>>423922792
>No my man
This larping is disturbing.
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>>423915715
I think he should be a bit rounder but I honestly don't dislike this.
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>>423919729
Spyro 3 is probably gonna suffer the worst because of all the vechiles and mini games the game has. Also you play as 5 different characters (Sheila, Sgt. Bird, Bentley, Agent 9 and Sparx) six if you count Hunter in the Speedway stages. It worries me too because it's the Spyro game I grew up the most with, I never even owned 1 or 2 untill got the chance to play them on PS3.
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>>423922792
>so we get new Skylanders games
ftfy
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>>423922149
moomin lawsuit incoming
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>>423922935
>>423922846
Whatever, the remake is poised to be a great commercial success and I'm gonna do what I can to support Spyro

You can go back and play your ""original"" games
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>>423915553
> Which is why remakes of specific games like Spyro need to be handled very carefully

You're forgetting why these 'samey moba' art styles exist in the first place. Customers want their games as cheap as possible. Spyro won't get the treatment you're asking from it because I guarantee you no one in this thread is willing to pay more than market rate for the game. We get the industry we deserve
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>>423900335
I don't really mind the other things as much and believe the game looks alright, but this shit pisses me off more than everything else combined and I have no idea why.
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>>423915715
Soul train incoming
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>>423923056
I was going to call you a NEET, but you keep using the term "great commercial success" which makes me realize you do have a job, but it's a lowly marketer. Hopefully the shitty job you're doing diminishes that 10 dollars a day you're making.
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>>423922149
I swear the remake one looks like creepy rapist.
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>>423915715
>>423923208
Why is nu-ripto's horn so big? It's almost the same length as his entire head.
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>>423922792
>I don't mind the new graphics
sure, but some people do. seems fair to me complaining about the graphics of a remake which is solely based on updating the graphics, nothing wrong with that.
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>>423922149
I mean the edit isn't 1:1 either but do you think anyone on /v/ would complain? CIA pose aside.
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>>423923208
Why are developers so inept? Why not just keep the same proportions and simply update the textures? Low poly + high textures is perfectly fine.
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is it possible for PC mods to fix the models like that?
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>>423924260
Why not just get an emulator?
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>>423924515
>Emulator
Anyone who doesn't play Spyro on a CRT might as well be playing the remakes. The washed-out color of LCDs doesn't do the games justice.
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>>423924685
>remake is ugly
>but emulators are also ugly
so basically you'll never be satisfied?
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>>423924907
No, I have original hardware. You know that exists right? These games didn't release on emulators originally, you are aware of that?
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>>423913819
did you just completely FORGET your childhood? do you not remember how PS1 games looked?
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>>423910023
thank you
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>>423925272
I had an NES, then a Genesis, then a N64, and then a PS2. I never played Spyro.
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Going to play Insomniac's Spider-Man over this now.
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Graphics is passable, if taking creative liberties a bit too much. Still waiting for the real incentive to buy this remake, AKA for the music to show up
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>>423905658
We literally just got Spyro 2 footage, so most likely we won't get any footage of him for a while.

There's no question they're going to change him.
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>>423926216
>AKA for the music to show up
it already has, theyre just watered down versions of copeland.
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>>423905658
Removed from the game due to racism
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>>423922149
Looks too much like a mummin
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>>423926484
...and that's a good thing!
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>>423911940
This, especially the characters.
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>>423921717
>The time where they actually needed to place cobblestone and they don't even do that
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>>423926217
>There's no question they're going to change him
Probably remove the turban, and make his bombs exploding flowers or some shit,
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>>423927625
I'm going to guess he'll look more like a cartoon genie and throw magic.
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>>423927245
yeah, while im thankful spyro isnt some skylanders abomination, he looks like hes made of playdough.
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>>423916743
The particles are obviously parented to the orb. Are you blind?
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Why the fuck are you guys so damn picky about these things?
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>>423927690
You underestimate toys for bob's ability to interpret things in the dumbest way. It's like the posts on "What did you see" threads that are just completely nonsensical even for low pixelcounts.
If you want to prepare for the worst case scenario just imagine that it'll be a baby with a fish head (just look at those eyes) and an overturned vase on its head throwing energy balls.
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>>423899687
>tits on fairy nerfed
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>>423899687
Well it doesn't look like hot garbage now.
Did you people just not want a remake or what?
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>>423899687

scene 1
>weird monk guy is now shrek reject
>no more comfy temple sunset in the background
>grass isn't deep green to indicate the exotic setting
>text box and font is now straight out of a mobile game

scene 2 and 3
>claustrophobic canyon instead of atmospheric sky shot
>muddy mix of gray and green instead of being colorful/exotic
>dopey instead of exotic fish
>idol made from cobblestone for some reason

scene 4
>zoe
>pillar is now a tree
>again no sky shot

scene 5
>boring zoomed in shot instead of whole level vista
>no more cloud and the monster just explodes
>girls don't dance they just wave their arms

scene 6
>outdoors for some reason
>idol design is more crash than spyro
>fucking cobblestones again
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>>423922149
man the actual remastered foreman has such a weird color palette
>yellow green purple orange brown beige
whereas I think the edit's
>yellow green brown beige
looks almost better than the original
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How fucking incompetent can they be? Why bother making a program to see all of the game's data if you ignore everything? All these fan edits have shown that the ''blob of polygons'' argument is dumb because these characters have really well thought-out designs.
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again, I will remind them
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>>423928453
It's almost as if they didn't bothered with the sky and just made everything as you wrote, claustrophobic, to save development time?
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>>423918514
lol
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>>423922764
Good comeback. Go back to masturbating to drawings of children you fucking rapist-waiting-to-happen
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>>423899687
>the fairy has nonexistent breasts
D R O P P E D
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>remake adds details to some stuff that looked simple due to hardware limitations instead of being a 1:1 copy with higher resolution
>reeeeeeeeeee
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>>423899284
The autism in this thread is unbelievable you fags make sonic fans look good.m
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>>423930289
>>423930380
samefag
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>>423930289
Yeah I sure enjoy my monk construction workers to look like sleazy middle eastern predators rather than cute and quirky monster dudes, HD details for the win!
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>>423929440
They don't give a shit and now it's too late.
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>>423930289

>Copy and paste literally everything from Spyro 1-3
>Make it 60 FPS and 4K resolution and everything is perfect
>People would still be mad

These sad fucks cant realize it's essentially a re-imagining of the originals, and that the originals are still there. Summerfags are just attempting to find something to complain about and its barely working for people with actual eyes and aren't 12 years old.
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>>423899687
The "metal shields" is not green in the remake. TOTALLY RUINED
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>>423899284
Jesus christ these threads are so autistic.

>waaaaaah the slightly changed the art style!
>old game gud new game baaaaaad
>baaaaaaa! baaaaaa!

There's nothing wrong with it, you fucking retards
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>>423930587
What the fuck are these psyops, summerfags/12yos don't fucking care about Spyro
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>>423930587
And you can't accept it's not a good re-imagining. Or rather you were hired to pretend not to.
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>>423900335
I genuinely can't fathom /v/'s outrage over this
for fucks sake it's a fucking 5 second ball animation, it's like you don't give a single shit about the actual game and you just want to bitch about it not being exactly the same even in the most minimal detail, do you seriously want to reach star wars fan levels of autism?
why would a crystal surrounded by metal bounce in the first place?
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>>423930541
True. I mainly just lurk these threads to watch the trainwreck and because I genuinely love the redesigns/shoops anons do
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NEW BAD, OLD GOOD!
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>>423930587
>fucks up art direction and character models/animations
>I-IT'S JUST A REIMAGINATION OF THE ORIGINAL

Yeah, a shitty one
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>>423930663
They're desperate to fit in with the older posters. It's the same shit you see all the time where every old game is perfect and every new game is shit. Obviously, this being a HD remake, that mentality is pumped up to 11. These fags are just like the annoying little brother trying desperately to look cool in front of big bro and his friends. They don't realise they're being more obnoxious than anything, and everyone knows they never played any of these old games they're praising anyway.
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Ah the shills are in full effect
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>>423930670

I didn't grow up with a PS and only had a small amount of time with all of the Spyro games, mostly because of the fact lack of interest at the time and Spyro 2's HORRIBLE HORRIBLE anti-piracy shit.

Im mostly here to see some screenshot comparisons and watch people complain about how why Sonic's arms shouldn't be blue.
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NEW GOOD, OLD BAD
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>>423899284
I feel like i just got redpilled

the soul meme actually makes sense to me now
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>>423914704
this is why
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>>423930775
>>423930919
based
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>>423930874
Wasn't it Spyro 3 with the horrible anti-piracy shit?
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>>423930868
>if you’re not a whiny nostalgiafag you’re a shill
Get help
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>>423900335
and people said soulless was a meme
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>>423930663
as if anyone saying the game is ruined by minor details cared about it either
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>>423930874
So you openly admit to having no idea what you're talking about.
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>>423914704
it's all about the internet
do you seriously /v/ is less retarded than reddit?
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OLD NEW, GOOD BAD
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>>423899687
I have always been a zoomer who prefered remakes, but holy shit this thing is fucking atrocious
Literally the soul soulless meme
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>>423930963
This is a good point about reddit, but it's hilarious that the very same poster is pretending that /pol/ isn't a massive echo chamber hugbox where voices that go against the grain aren't immediately stifled with people claiming you're a paid shill and sometimes posts/threads even get deleted by the politically partisan mods for being wrongthink. The only thing /pol/ has going for it in terms of freedom of speech is the very fact that it's a 4chan board. But given that it's a 4chan board dominated by literal fascists, it ends up being just as opressive as reddit all the same.
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OLD GAMES GUD, NEW GAMES BAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
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>>423900335
Shame, I was interested at first
Then the yellow filter everywhere
Now this
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>>423930696
>it's like you don't give a single shit about the actual game
The gameplay is the fucking same, I can go play this on my PS1 right now. The only reason to even consider buying this are the remade graphics. And the remade graphics are fucking hideous.
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>>423931625
that's your opinion
nostalgia fueled opinion
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>>423931404
>people are telling me to fuck off, I feel oppressed, faycis
Ever wonder why /pol/ gained so much traction? It's because of that gay shit you do.
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>>423912874
I wish reddit posting was bannable. That whole post reeks of faggotry beyond belief
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>>423930696
They don't give a shit about the actual game. They never played they actual game, they're all too young. It's just about being le epic contrarian and nitpicking even the tiniest most trivial things in a desperate attempt to fit in here.
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>>423931404
Fuck off, paid shill.
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>>423931776
>dismissing someone's opinion by saying buzzwords like ''nostalgia''
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>>423899284
vote with your wallet
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>>423930663
/v/ is a fast board that is filled with shitposters.
Spyro remaster rapidly became a an easy bait topic, requiring few words and easily repostable images and because there was no gameplay for a long time the only thing to discuss was nitpicking. It was easy to stir up moderately legitimate back and forth discussion that could be roused every now and again with false flags.
It's pretty hard to argue that shitposters aren't infesting these threads, they don't necessarily care about the game but it gets them attention.
Fuck this new shill though, the remake is pretty ass.
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>>423931776
Yeah, and nostalgia fueled opinions are going to make or cost them sales. This series has been dead for 20 years already, idgaf if this does well or not. Any new game is going to look just as hideous, and could very well be a Skylanders tie-in.
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>>423919330
Viva Piñata fellow boomer
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>>423922098
System limitations forced them to explore other avenues to make characters more expressive, objects stand out, graphics look good and so on. That's taken for granted now because we have the graphical capability but then there's too much visual clutter.
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>>423931404
mods on /pol/ are faggots. stay on there long enough youll see that the shill shit is actually true. /pol/ can be an echochamber if you let it but ideas are actually discussed with statistics and actual measurable evidence. dont be fucking stupid and fall for memes.

>But given that it's a 4chan board dominated by literal fascists, it ends up being just as opressive as reddit all the same
stay in /v/ and dont come back
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>>423931850
Ever wonder why everyone hates /pol/ here now? Yeah it's that tumblr girl strawman shit you faggots do because you're too brain retarded to into logic. Stay triggered though. It's pretty funny to watch someone get so butthurt and still try to pretend the person you're replying to is the mad one.
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very important question do you guys hang toilet paper over or under
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>>423932237
>but ideas are actually discussed with statistics and actual measurable evidence

Oh fucking lol. I bet you unironically believe this shit too right? I mean, you probably wouldn't have ended up there if you knew how to think critically.
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>>423932307
I use wet wipes because I'm OCD and like a squeaky clean asshole.
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y'alll buy it anyway
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>>423932443
that isn't OCD, fuckface
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>>423932073
Fuck off cunt I've played all three of them that many times. The fact that you have so low standards points to you not playing them to any extent. The animations are objectively worse. The character design is objectively worse. The hitboxes are complete shit. How hard is this to see for you?
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>>423905884
>old train's smokestack stretches and squashes and belches out smoke
>new train just rolls along, only animation is the wheels turning
gay
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>>423932145
yeah, should've said soul instead, now that's a real word
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>>423899687
Zoe looks too important and not game-y enough
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>>423932262
Sad thing is you really believe you're turning people over by being a whiny cunt when you're only validating your opponents. Nice fucking job, genius.
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>>423932171
if you look everywhere outside autism caves like /v/ you'll notice everyone loves it
20 lost sales from virgin neets mean absolutely nothing
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>>423930963
You can trace all of that to reddit's origin as a content aggregator rather than a forum.
It works/worked extremely well at aggregating content regarding a topic where interested people can freely discuss it. Subscribing to programming subreddits was a great way to keep up with the news and discuss them.
The problem comes when you take all of that and make it into a discussion forum.

4chan's anonymous/transient thread and post philosophy works better for discussion, but fails to be a good content aggregator, news will be posted and you can try to discuss them, but the thread will go off to crazy tangents more often than you'd want to if you're looking for a slower-paced discussion.
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>>423930874
>I didn't play it much because I couldn't pirate it
Sounds about right.
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>>423932262
/v/ is anonymous reddit. no wonder they hate /pol/

>>423932423
>Oh fucking lol. I bet you unironically believe this shit too right? I mean, you probably wouldn't have ended up there if you knew how to think critically.
>board that constantly challenges my views and actually makes me think hard about what i believe
>no critical thinking skills
enjoy your $0.02 kike
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>>423930696
>Simple orb bounce animation
>LET'S BLIND THE PLAYER
Well gee I wonder which one is better?
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>>423932795
>it'll be profitable therefore it'll be good
wtf I love fortnite now
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>>423932908
The one that looks like it's from the director who watched Shrek.
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>>423932795
>Most people are uncritical simpletons who will eat anything they're told to
Who knew?
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>>423932795
idgaf if this does well or not. Me not buying it doesn't mean it'll fail, but it does mean I won't have a useless piece of shit sitting on the shelf.
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>>423932702
Lol, I'm not turning people over. You are. Turns out if you come to /v/ every single day for several years in a row dumping biased infographics and right wing propaganda, making absolutely sure that there's at least one thinly veiling /pol/ thread on the front page at any given time, people will get sick of your shit. You're as bad as the SJWs with this point with the constant bitching and complaining over stuff that doesn't even matter.

>WAAAH LESBIANS KISSING IN A VIDEO GAME TRAILER

Who gives a fuck? Find somewhere else to cry about it you fucking spergs. And again, the irony of this goes right over your head as you pretend anyone but you people are the ones whining all the time. Fuck off back to your safespace if you cant handle it.
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>>423933114
mass replies should be cause for a perma ban
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>>423930963
The Spyro subreddit's mod/admin is a smoothbrain who doesn't allow fan content to be posted to the usually dead subreddit directly, and insists on making everyone post into his megathreads, which would be like not allowing threads to be made on /v/ and instead redirecting everyone into one sticky.
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last post lole
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>>423933272
no
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^
fag
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>>423933325
^queer
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>>423933172
>everyone who disagrees with me is /pol/, now let me project and dump my tired buzzphrases
By all means, don't stop.
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no me
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>>423932993
>me smart
>others dumb




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