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>everyone in your party gets 3 or 4 shot
wow fun
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>>431501023
>''playing'' RNG games
You've only yourself to blame.
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This is only true at the start of the game when your characters have no stats or equipment whatsoever.
How far in did you get?
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>>431501023
Why is this not on sale :(
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Thinking of playing as Ifan, with Fane, Red Prince, and Lohse as companions. Good idea?
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>>431501524
>no beast
yikes...
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>>431501653
Without spoiling, why take Beast?
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>>431501289
i got to the marsh on tactician mode and explored everything

every fight was unbeatable and i couldnt find a way to make money or level up outside of that
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>>431502005
>tactician mode
Consider not playing on tactician.
Why would you play a RPG on the hardest setting when you're not familiar with the intricacies of the game and it's quirks?
Very silly.
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>>431501524
Consider playing as Fane or Lohse instead.
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>>431502208
i thought it was the non-casual mode
there was a hardcore mode
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>>431501098
DOS2 got rid of RNG in combat besides crits.
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>>431502005
>every fight was unbeatable
It's not, you just suck at games.

DOS2 Tactician doesn't fuck around. If you don't build your characters right you will get stuck. Start over or lower the difficulty.
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>>431502306

>never played poker
>get invited by friends for small wagers
>nah nikka, go big or go home
>lose everything in a casino
>woooow
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>>431501524
Swap Fane and Ifan and you're good. Ifan is chill as fuck degenerate who likes holding hands with elves but i feel that Fane is more of an MC than him due to how close he is to everything going on.
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>>431501756
His abilities great on any mage (more so aero). But honestly I wouldn't have called his story amazing. He makes certain interactions with dwarves add more lore...that's about it.
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>>431502005
Making money is easy if you loot everything.
Stealing is another way but moralfags like me don't like to steal.
And it's weird they make it so once a person has been pickpocketed once they can't be again.
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>>431502306
I would play tacticain on your first time if you are quite familiar with the general autism of RPGs only. Personally? I'd try the first act out on tactican and reset/downgrade if it's to annoying/hard.
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>>431503121
>And it's weird they make it so once a person has been pickpocketed once they can't be again.
It's either that or having random chances to steal shit and reloading all the time which would suck in multiplayer. Isn't stealing is tied to each person separately anyway? As in Fane can steal from McTraderBigSword and while he can't steal anything again it won't stop Beast, other origin guys and mercenaries from stealing his shit once as well.
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>>431501756
beast is just good lizard
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>>431502005
maybe you should play at your skill setting ie babymode
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>>431503471
You are correct, yes.
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>>431501756
He's trolling. Beast is shit.
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>>431503945
t. ifan
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>>431504315
Ifan is also shit oh no you gassed the elves.
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>>431501524
Lohse is pretty much required because she has one of the best moments in the last act regarding her personal story. I still listen to that song sometimes
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>>431504485
you literally had a watered down game if you didnt play as fane with beast sebille and loshe
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>>431504661
Sebille, Lohse, and Fane I can agree on. But you experience almost all of Ifans story through basically dialogue.

Basically Prince, Lohse, Fane, and Sebille is, basically, the best party overall. Since lizards take place almost no where else in the game in any major story role. Lohse has probably the most interesting MC experience, but all 4 can give good shit. Experiencing the dreamer parts as RP can be fun.
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>>431504952
Fane is MC is only really decent if you plan to be ebil route. Otherwise his MC experience isn't as much to gain as he already is via companion.
I can agree on the other 3 though. All 3 have unique mechanics to themselves story-wise.
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>>431505157
and beast doestn?
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>>431505363
Beast gets you into the wedding.
That's, quite literally, it.
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>>431501524
Swap Ifan with any of your party members as the MC. Ifan's story is miles better as a party member than as the MC.
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>>431501023
That's a big problem at the start of the game because the armor system is retarded.
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>>431505428
He also gove the finger to that one dwarf guard in the undertavern,
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>>431505428
>>431505524
>rpg game
>dwarf character always has the most shit stroyline
no no no its not fair dwarf bros
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>>431505584
I mean as a character he can be funny. But if i wanted to give someone the best "one time through" experience. That, easily, goes to Sebille/Lohse/Prince/Fane
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>>431502369
And DOS2 DE added RNG back in because the armor system was just as shit. Now Melee players have to deal with armor AND RNG, hurray.
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>>431505665
>he doesn't have accuracy
topkek
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Let's say I lone wolf the game.
What is build will get me the fastest through the games?
And by fastest I mean make the fights with bosses like the Doctor or mind control fights like in the dream really easy and fast, and not take a billion turns.
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>>431505727
2x summoner
It's basically babby mode.

Lonewolf x2 of anything is babby mode.
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>>431505727
2 Summoner, once you get Summoning 10 have your summoners spec into Pyro+Geo and Hydro+Aero respectively. Give them Intelligence and Wits and load up on spells. Summon and buff 1st turn, and then nuke the battlefield 2nd turn. You can combo spells with each other and your summons.
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What's the quintessential RPG to play after D:OS2?
3 when
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>>431506556
possibly never?

But they'd be stupid not to make it at this point. Personally I'd take some kind of DOS style remake of the prior games.
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you need to upgrade your armor pretty much every level, and map out your route so you always do town content and easy fights first
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>>431506771
Depending on your level upgrading armor every level is hardly required. Good stats almost always trumps armor anyway.
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>>431507000
>Good stats almost always trumps armor anyway.
pumping constitution is a waste, increase your damage stat and your memory, get health by buying armor
you dont NEED to upgrade every level, but the more you do the tankier you'll be, the increase in difficulty in the new version emphasizes this
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>>431507328
>armor
>only constitution
eh?
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>>431507376
you can increase your health in two ways, increasing consitution or buying armor
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>>431507575
You seemed to have mistaken the point of my statement.

If you are level 11 and just leveled to 12 and have very good stat gear? Chances are you will not find good replacements before you are, at least, 13.
Especially in regards to how much wit-stacking one can do via items alone.
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>>431502005
>i got to the marsh
>every fight was unbeatable
lol if i were you i'd consider cutting off my balls
brainlets should not reproduce
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>>431502456
The sad part is how easy tactician actually is. It's rather sad the game has no truly autism tier difficulty.
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>>431507703
oh yeah I agree, it's just that the shop restocks every level up so you can go and replace the worst items you have
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What non combat stat should i max when playing tactician lone wolf - thievery?
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>>431502306
>i thought it was the non-casual mode
apparently it is.
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Got myself a lone wolf ranger. What else should i put my stats in? Is leveling intelligence a good idea? I’m also playing on tactician.
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What are some good things to splash on a two hander? Scoundrel and maybe a little poly?
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>>431508212
strength/finesse/int - level your main damage stat, increase the other two as neccessary to be able to use gear
constitution - leave it unless you feel you need HP
memory - increase when you learn more spells
wits - leave it
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How do you start off with dual lone wolves? Having to wait to get lone wolf for your companion sucks.
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>>431508072
for maximum cheese, leave it on persuasion and respec into loremaster/thievery/barter when neccessary
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>>431508689
>wits
>leave it
topkek
Wits is stupidly good on LW and especially rangers. Enjoy that 75%+ crit chance.
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>>431501098
>>''playing'' RNG games
>You've only yourself to blame.

FUCKING RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RNG GAMES SUCK FUCK THOSE DEVS FUCK THOSE GAME FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>431508838
crits dont increase your damage as much as the other skills do, you can level it when the others are maxed
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>>431508414
one point in scoundrel for adrenaline is p neat
necromancy is solid on anything that's going to be in the fray of things and dealing lots of damage
add that one talent that makes healing give you magic armor if you're going necro/warfare, it'll make your life-damaging attacks not only heal you because necro but also restore magic armor, letting you tank terrain effects

poly is always solid on meleedudes because free stats are good on everyone, even dedicated casters, and poly has A+ utility skills
tentacle whack is also a great 1st level skill that gives your dudes that don't have range a good ranged attack
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>>431508797
Nigger you can get it super fast on your companion
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>>431508838
Is wits really that great? 1% crit increase per level doesn’t sound worth it.
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>>431509321
its the worst stat
crits are only 150% damage too
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>>431508994
Wits don't just give crits. going first enables just instant-killing most of the major fights in the game on turn 1.
Nevertheless that scaling of damage stats isn't nearly as good as skill increases are.
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>>431509457
I guess, if you're playing on lone wolf it's easy mode anyway
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>>431509739
To be fair, that is true.
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>>431508967
>run casino gambler
>why does he heal bad sometimes
If you're scared of shit like that then run Vestal who is all about being a reliable bitch. I will agree that the game is pretty fucking grindy and having to do yellow dungeons sucks dick because you lost a nigga but what can you do in a game with no way to lose unless you stygianin' it up.
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>>431508967
This webm physically hurts me.
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>>431509405
>what is scoundrel and two hander with aoe skills to rape everything
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>>431509457
If you have enough initiative can you go twice in a row?
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>>431510082
No. And it seems that stacking WITS for initiative on more than 1 guy does nothing because turns always alternate so your fastest guy will go first and second fast will go after the next enemy.
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Wits is a funky stat because you need to have x amount of it or initiative (enough to supercede most enemies in turn order) for it to become really useful. It shines on Lone Wolf characters since you can get high amounts of main stat and memory so fast that you also have points to spare on Wits relatively early. This means that your party will be taking their turns first, while dealing more damage in the process. It means you end up with situations where you can fuck up half the enemies before they get to act. It cannot be understated how devastating a high initiative 50%+ crit Lone Wolf mage is.

Consitution is actually the stat that is completely redundant, but you need Wits in order to make it redundant.
>crits only do 150% damage
There are multiple ways to increase it, goddamnit.
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>>431501098
>divinity 2
>rng
What the fuck
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>>431510307
People cry about dodge chances now
At least no one has REEEE'd over ice slipping at least.
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>>431509886
>casino gambler
So this is why I ended up having 0 (NULL) deaths during the NG+ run?
Get good, dumb faggot.
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>>431510384
Well I do agree it is fucking retarded how you miss stomps sometimes but only a retard wouldn't be prepared for something like that to happen
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I made a custom PC battle cleric with fane,red prince and iban as my party. The npcs are their base classes. How is my party?
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>>431510385
What are you even complaining about? Occultist is best boy but crying bitch tears when he heals for 0 is weak as fuck. You know that he can crit 0+ bleed some guy on death's door before you even start organizing your team you ziggurat troglodyte.
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>>431510525
or just buy items with any amount of +accuracy
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>>431510624

Perfectly do-able.
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>>431510624
4 lemons could make it through act 1.
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>>431510525
You literally can't miss unless you're retarded and use a weapon with a higher level than you.
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>>431510683
Occulshit is fucking garbage character, the worst in the game like you are the worst in your school class, kiddo.
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>>431510624
You honestly do miss out on quite of cool stuff with a custom MC.
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>>431510624
>iban
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>>431510984
ebin
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>>431508967
that party comp is garbage.
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>>431510882
>hate character
>use him
>complain
?
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>>431511379
That party comp successfully cleared the whole dungeon without any stress and deaths (occulshit not included because he's fucking shit).
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How much str do I need to wear top tier heavy armour? Was thinking of doing a battle mage
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>>431508967
>not lunging
>forcing guard on deaths door'd occultist
>not stabbing the commander with 2 health left
Noone to blame but yourself.
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>>431508967
>both mobile melee/range hybrids on the back
>range characters on the front
>not even lunging with the graverobber
The game is stupid with how much RNG it has but you should kill yourself for being this retarded.
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>>431511473
>successfully cleared the whole dungeon without any stress and deaths
>except for the party member that died
so a bad run then.
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>>431511830
Occulnigger is not a party member, nobody liked him anyway.
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>>431511809
I finished NG+ without deaths - something that you will never be able to do because your tiny brain is incapable of replicating my success: >>431510385
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>>431511931
right, so a run where you loose a person you take with you is a good run for you then?
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>>431511613
12 Str is enough to wear any heavy armor through most of the game.
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I hear that the Red Prince's ending sucks if he's who you're playing as, is it true?
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>>431512302
no
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>>431501023
Should of played Deadfire instead.
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>>431511613
15 or 16 is the highest you'll need I think, 13 will be enough til the end of act 2. Probably not worth investing in it until you pick up armor that needs more than what you currently have.
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Party will be Sebille, Lohse, and either Fane or Ifan. Do I make a custom MC or choose one of the origin ones? The only ones that looked interesting to me are the ones already in my party, except Red Prince but I played him a year ago in multi with some friends.
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>>431509982
>>what is scoundrel
a guaranteed crit chance making wits even worse on rogues than other classes
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>>431513150
Origin ones, obviously, have better story than custom ones do.
Custom MCs have better source skills though.
Lohse and Fane are the most interesting characters story-wise to play as out of that bunch.
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>>431513150
literally the only difference between characters in combat are their racial skill and character skill, and all of the character skills are pretty worthless, custom characters get the bubble which is overpowered as hell
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How overpowered can you get solo lone wolf on the easiest difficulty? story mode is the super babby mode and explorer is the new "normal" right?
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>>431513541
>>431513624
Thanks for the input anons. I'm playing as Lohse in a multiplayer game I started when DE came out but I don't know if my friends will ever continue it. Just in case I'd rather avoid her as an MC. I've had Fane in my party before, is his story changed much if you play him or should I just stick to Ifan/Red Prince?
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>>431513150
Customs have no extra personal story quests but condome of protection is one of the better source skills and you can actually go for a race/gender/tag setup that the origins don't cover (ie: a Mystic/Scholar not named Fane).
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>>431512059
Occultist is a slot filler.
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>>431513772
Explorer is a babby mode as well.
Starting from mid act-2 you will stop caring about pretty much any encounters in the game if you always upgrade your gear. Everything will become stupidly easy.
Play on Tactician.
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are spears usable now? I want to make a fire slinging spear knight
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>>431514026
do you realize how retarded you sound?
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>>431501098
If this isn't bait, DoS2 has almost no RNG whatsoever in the game
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>>431514735
Shut the fuck up, retard.
You can't even finish NG+.
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>>431514940
lol yes, you're the only one to finish NG+. keep bragging about runs where people die.
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>>431514793
I'm being a devil's advocate here but let's say you upgrade your items in every slot every two levels. On level 11 you get a full set of items that increase your main stat and main skills, and on lvl 13 you get a set that increases none of that jazz. You could be talking about a loss of over a quarter of your damage, all down to poor rolls on items.

This is actually one thing that pisses me off about the game a bit. The armor system makes it so that upgrading items often is needed and getting the good rolls on items is exceedingly rare. While the scenario I laid out is a hyperbole, it's very realistic to lose and gain 10% dps every few levels thanks to RNG, or to use old items and lose a plenty of armor instead.
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>>431512810
Why does everyone get so triggered by this? I've seen it so many times now (still in Fort Joy, so I don't know the context)
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>>431514716
fire scales with int and pyro
spears scale with warfare and finesse
doesn't blend well
spears are pretty shit in general, as are daggers
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>>431503040
Yeah but Beast's story got totally redone for the definitive edition.
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>>431516259
I thought daggers were GOAT tier with scoundrel and finesse stacking? My rogue used to kill boss type enemies in one turn on Tactician.

Sad to hear about spears though, I thought it would just be a FIN/INT split for pyro & spears.
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>>431516443
It's better, but it isn't great.
Beasts a second run through character at best.
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>>431516520
I could be mistaken, I'm mostly just parroting things I've read.
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>>431512810
no one will ever give a shit about deadfire
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>>431516259
spears are great. Whirlwind spears are fucking hilarious. Hit everyone in a mile radius. All warfare skills scale off dex anyway if you are using a dex weapon.
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>>431516646
Ignore him, he posts that picture in literally every DoS2 thread
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>>431516520
basically spears are just str 2handers who use finese instead. The downside being that the poly str skills suck (tentacle, namely). The upside being you can use scoundels finese skills that don't require a dagger.

You really shouldn't be putting pyro on basically anyone intending to melee except for a battlemage.
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>>431517035
I was just trying to make a build that could maximize Pyro skill damage by exploiting poly/warfare movement skills since all the pyro skills seem very short range. Added the spear because I thought they'd be fun but I guess it's just too many stats to stack.
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>>431517129
just use a fire staff then. Staff + Sparkstrikes + Whirlwind is stupid as fuck.
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>>431517129
You could use a fire staff and just max int
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>>431508967
>Protect Me on Occultist at death's door
I'm fucking inconsolable
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>>431502005
fucking brainlet holy shit.
I started playing tactition mode recently with a non optimized party (2 magic 2 physical)

Beat Bishop alexander on the first go.
What you gotta do is 1. clear out ALL encounters in fort joy 2. steal gear
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>>431517248
Wouldn't Whirlwind have shit damage with an INT firestaff?
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>>431517561
warfare skills scale off the attribute of your main weapon, so no.
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>>431517372
>I started playing tactition mode recently with a non optimized party (2 magic 2 physical)
Overall this is one of the best parties to use anon. You fell for the dumb "le split damage bad" meme. topkek
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>>431517625
Oh wow, that's busted. I always assumed warfare was the STR ability like how scoundrel/huntsman are purely for FIN and spell schools are INT. Thanks anons
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>>431517734
Warfare are the only skills that do this. Scroundrels all require a dagger and thus always use finesse and their non-dagger skills use finesse, usually.
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Is putting one point into necro on a pyro/geo a good idea for the passive heal?
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>>431518215
I'd say one point is barely noticeable if you're not doing a massive amount of damage every turn. But necro does have synergy with living armor so if you decide to invest in one you should definitely consider the other as well.

Should I take Ifan or Red Prince with me? I'm playing Fane with Sebille and Lohse already and I'm about to leave act 1. I like both of them well enough and I've never had any of them in a party because I played with friends and 4 custom characters last time.
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>>431518215
You end up getting a lot of points in necro purely from items, to be honest.
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I really enjoy slaying sebille everytime i start a new run
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>>431501023
Getting 3 shot is a bad thing now? That used to be considered the optimal amount of hits you can take
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>mfw the Blackpits oil voidling fight on Tactician
Absolutely the best fight of the game so far, just fucking amazing in every way. I had to restart once because the NPC died but the second try he stayed up top like a good boy.
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>>431519945
All you really gotta do is just pre-buff him and he'll be fine.
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>>431520075
Last time I did it I actually had to use multiple healing scrolls on him because the stupid fuck kept running from on end of the platform to the other constantly to reach different enemies.
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>>431520075
Yeah it only took me one more try to get it down, keeping him healthy with both armor types makes it completely fine. Magic armor buffs are king in that fight
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>>431519945
I've heard of that fight and the thought of it terrifies me because my red prince is a pyro-based battlemage. Literally all he does is shit fire over absolutely everything.
Fuck.
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>>431501023
Try to suck a bit less.
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>>431519945
I'm looking forward to it in DE and with my much stronger computer. Last time I did it my framerate went from 144 to 10 throughout the entire thing and my room turned into a real inferno.
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>>431520981
You'll be fine. I thought my pyro/geo Fane would be completely useless but I kept him on buff duty and gave him the teleport gloves. You can also ignite the oil fields early to try to keep the oil voidlings off the top platform and make it safer to camp there. An interesting thing you can do is sometimes the magisters guarding the gate can be aggro'd during the fight and will do a ton of work for you fighting the voidlings on that side. I couldn't do it on my second try so I'm not sure if it's reliable.
>>431521091
I've got a good gpu but a shitty 1080p60 monitor so it was good for me. I wonder if I'd be able to handle it with a 1440p144. (I have one coming in the mail)
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>he doesn't have any tanks
Yikes!
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>>431520981
anon its all going to be on fire no matter what.
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>>431519945
The terrain swap spell was absolutely OP for that fight too. Every time one of those oil fucks tries to shit up your platform you can just move it elsewhere.
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>>431521310
Tanking isn't really possible in this game because there's no aggro system. The taunt skill has a long cooldown, minuscule range, and only 1 turn duration so it's basically useless. You can make someone as beefy as possible but that will just encourage the AI to fuck up the rest of the party instead.
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>>431521310
"tanks" are really just there because shield toss is retarded and it helps a wand mage not die.
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>>431521557
>>431521594
>t. shit player
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>mfw killing the bridge trolls at level 12 with constant stuns and getting level 18 rings that triple my magic armor as a reward
Hybrid parties are the fucking best.
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>>431521796
I killed two of those dumb fat fucks already and I'm looking forward to more
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>>431521796
Isn't there already a whole load of driftwood quests/items you can do early? Granted killing trolls early is a fun challenge
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>>431521796
I was willing to let the weaker one go, but then the absolute fucker upped his rate to triple the cost of the guy who was already ripping you off. Never suffer a live troll
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>>431501023
Git gud. Played on the hardest on my first playthrough and it got too easy once you get the ball running.
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>resolved the source lich quest peacefully, got the shitastic reward, decide to look up the quest on the wiki to see if fighting him's worthwhile because he was a kind of a haughty vampiric prick

>tfw I read the comments section and see just how many ways you can absolutely pants the dumb git by destroying his soul jar or feeding him to Jahan

Xhaxh...Xhaxh had a hard unlife
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>>431521091
>and my room turned into a real inferno
That's what I call immersive gameplay experience.
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>tfw can't decide what to play
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Does Definitive feel easier or is it just me?
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>>431502005
Dude, if it's your first run, go classic. The game is already fairly challenging on that setting, but for the harder settings you really need to know what you're doing.
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I want to be a dickass thief with dual wield daggers but I'm also a hoarder so I kind of need strength to lug all this shit around.

What do?
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>>431528760
Get a companion with strength and make him carry all the shit.
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>>431501023
Feels kind of weird how the games keep changing gameplay style
Divine Divinity & Beyond Divinity: diablo style rpgs
Divinity 2: Morrowind/Gothic style rpg
Dragon Commander: rts
Dos 1 & 2: turn based rpgs
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>>431528909
I plan to play coop and I don't trust my friend to not steal the shit I need.
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>>431501023
So we all agree that Red Prince is the best MC? Sure Fane has more relevance to the main plot, but playing a snooty lizardman with a god complex is pretty fun.
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>>431529117
Divinity 2 was nothing like Morrowind or Gothic
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>>431524629
>(((trolls)))
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>>431505662
>tfw I killed Sebille in Fort Joy

Edgy bitch had it coming trying to stab me.
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>>431529569
This.
Red Prince = Fane > Lohse > Ifan > Beast >>>>>>>>>> Sebille
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>>431529131
Get a barrel and place all the shit in it, then throw it around with telekinesis.
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>>431529719
>tfw the Red Prince basically cucks you if you try to pursue a romance with him.
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>>431519945
You can also teleport him out of the area and skip the fight entirely
Did that our our 4th playthrough because it was getting late and we didn't have 30 minutes to spend on the fight
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>>431529117
I reckon Dragon Commander was the first time they could truly chose what kind of gameplay they wanted independently from their publishers
Also, Divine Divinty fanmod remake in DOS2 when?
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>>431530021
Red Prince? More like Black prince cause he's such a nigger!
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>>431530021
arent you technically cucking his wife?
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>>431530318
From what I remember he says that you'll be his bit on the side because it's his destiny to be with his wife due the whole dragon prophecy. But maybe he'll come visit you or let you in the palace.
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>shit armour system is still in the game with barely any changes, minor debuffs STILL don't penetrate it, need to take a special talent to let even DOT statuses stick around
>there's still a universal skill that raises all physical damage you're doing but no universal magical skill doing the same with elemental damage
>physical debuffs are still 1-stage, magic debuffs are still 2-stage, and weaker on top of that
>there's still no physical damage reduction yet there's still elemental damage reduction
>barely anything was done with the loot level scaling, it's still as retarded as it was
>crafting is still a piece of shit
>initiative is still useless
Did Larian even listen to complains or they just decided to straight ignore all of it?
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>>431530021
>Not BEING the Red chad and going on a journey to get your lizard waifu
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>>431530578
To be fair, changing the armor system would basically be redoing the entire combat system. That would be a huge rework.
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>>431530676
>not being the lizard waifu
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>>431530676
That godking isn't just going to bring himself back you know.
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>>431530771
Just allow all minor non-stunning debuffs to stick around for fuck's sake, there was a mod for this for the original version and it made the game way more diverse.
Larian are retards for introducing stunlock effects in first place without giving enemies tools for becoming immune to them after a few turns like in Darkest Dungeon or Underrail or whatever.
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>>431530578
>minor debuffs STILL don't penetrate it
>not using torturer and geomancy to start every encounter with a huge aoe entangle
It fucking trivializes fights. Even the ones where you get ambushed in shitty positioning. Doesn't matter when the enemies can't move for 2 whole rounds.
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>>431530273
Is Dragon Commander any good? I loved Ego Draconis and OS2 makes me want to check it out now too.
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>>431528397
I don't think so.

Played it through the first time on Tactician. Challenging but not unreasonable. Abused pre-patch spider for a bit half of Act 2 but the game was still manageable after I decided to stop using it. I was even able to kill Mordus in his bug form.

On Definitive now I have to abuse Phoenix Idols on Heroic. There's no way I'd be making it without them and they've only gotten easier to craft in-battle. A lot, and I mean a LOT of the bruisers one or two shot your guys through armor. Even with the AI sometimes falling apart at times if you don't completely and permanently knockdown/stun every big hitter you're going to be in trouble. I've even had to pay attention to the enemy's skill cooldowns to make sure it was "okay" for them to stay standing up for a turn.
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Sebille is a fucking bitch. How do you suffer her presence in the party?
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>>431501023
Any way to make a sword and board fighter work?

I'm planning an undead pure tank w/ support spells + lone wolf torturer geo fire mage
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>>431531245
By playing as her.
Or enduring her until act 2.
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>>431531245
By not having her in the party?
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>>431531245
Because she isn't an abusive faggot who is condescending like the RP and she's fairly involved in the story whereas Fane has no fucking idea what's going on until all the way deep into the second act and has zero further story until the end of the third act and kinda just doesn't do much else because it was obvious his character was introduced late into development and they just didn't plan any shit to have him involved because he was a Kickstarter bonus feature.

THAT is why Sebille deserves a place in the party. Because Fane and the RP are utterly shit tourists in the world.
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>>431531245
Aside from her edgy introduction she never acted like a bitch in my playthrough. Wanted to kill the important people in her backstory, same as every other companion, but otherwise she was fine.
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>>431531245
Sebille is tsundere. I actually like her in the later acts.

Meanwhile Ifan turns into a cockbag near the end of the game.
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>>431531274
>>Any way to make a sword and board fighter work?
You say that as if that's something unconventional
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>>431531471
Damn, that's some shit taste.
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>>431531274
>Any way to make a sword and board fighter work
Nah. It only has like the best physical non-source skill in the game with shield throw and very good armor recovery with shields up.
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>>431531808
How the fuck do you achieve a number like that?

Max Strength, Warfare, and a big fucking shield cannot possibly yield that number. Is this a Death Wish buff?
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>>431531510
>>431531628
Is retribution and leadership worth it?

I hoped leadership range got buffed to like 8meters
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>>431532049
holy shit no leadership is one of the worst possible things you could ever possibly waste your points on
retribution /can/ work if you build a character around it, but it's still lackluster and underperforms because enemies aren't going to attack the character that has it
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>>431531914
Bouncing shield simply has extremely high base damage. If you add warfare skill and other buffs into the mix it does stupid amounts of damage to two targets.
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>>431505462
Disagree. Playing as Ifan has been great. He's got some relation to practically everything in the setting so you're always getting something neat to react to and getting hit with the reveal about the real usage of the portal he was escorting to the elves felt fantastic.
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>>431532049
leadership is garbage

Retribution does some chip damage which is always nice but I wouldn't put skillpoints into it. Better spent elsewhere for more guaranteed damage.
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What did he mean by this?
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>>431532305
it means I teleported him into some deathfog
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Are some companions incompatible with each other?
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>>431532548
no
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>>431532548
Some have conflicting quest objectives but you just have to do one before the other. Like having Red Prince talk to Stingtail before having Sebille kill him.
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>>431532548
some of their quests can conflict with eachother but there are usually ways to work around it or just pick their quest back up at a different stage
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Can a ranger use battlestomp/knock down if he's using a bow?

Or does it require a melee weap?

I really need some sort of physical cc on my ranger w/o costing 3 ap..
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>>431532778
Read the fucking skills they literally tell you.
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>>431532778
requires melee weapon so no

better get some knockdown arrowheads
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>>431532778
Use knockdown arrows.
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>>431532884
fuck off nerd
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There’s a babby mode for people like you OP
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>>431532968
hurr durr i want to play duh rpgs but me too lazy to read how do build a party /v/ is x okay
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>>431532778
Knockdown arrows or have him learn a few geo skills for CC like impalement and earthquake
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>>431532904
>>431532919
>>431533181
For what it matters, I think he's still in the Joy and Knockdowns (and antlers) are basically unavailable in Fort Joy. They don't show up in plentiful supply until Level 10.
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>>431533662
There's at least 2 guaranteed knockdown books in fort joy mate
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>>431517672
>"le split damage bad"
I used to believe that it was just a meme
then I got to the wreckers cave at level 11 (and it's a level 10 area) and my spellcasters were completely worthless because every single important enemy had double the magic armor compared to physical armor
and with every enemy killing you if they manage to get three attacks in, not being able to focus fire one down ASAP meant that it was impossible to win.
I went back to ship respecced one of the wizards to have necromancy, and that was all it took. Once I was able to kill one enemy in the first turn, the fight became much more mangeable.
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>>431501098
>>431501098
>>431501289
>>431501756
>>431502005
>>431502306
>>431502797
Is this game better or worse than the first original Sin?
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>>431534605
Better in virtually every way.
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>>431508072
>>431530676
>>431530021
>>431531510
Who should I MC as?
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>>431534896
>feed garvan tainted stew
>kill him on his way to the shitter
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>>431534958
Custom made
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>>431534990
this, but a lizard female
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>>431535104
>this, but a lizard male
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>>431534981
I let him shit his insides out first and killed him right after he finished
also 100% more enemies mod seems to work on named characters too but spawned him without armor
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>>431535265
>All those red blips
So how much of the town did you end up exterminating?
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Fucking beast cucked me out of killing lohar restarted the playthrough and killed him at the start prince is better anyway
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>>431535493
Kill Ifan too while you're at it
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>>431535426
other people show as hostile and join in on gervan's side if they see you fight gervan but turn back to neutral when you finish
I actually had to reload once because the copied gervan spawned inside the tavern and everyone inside joined in
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>>431534990
>>431534958
literally anything except for a custom mc
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>>431501023
>too much of a brainlet to curbstomp encounters

fuck off back to diablo 3
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>>431535591
Already did fane as mc lohse prince and sebille fucking moral fags
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>>431535265
I can't wait for future mods. Really fucking love the chornomancer. ZA WARUDO.
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>>431533662
He should still have access to fossil strike and impalement(lvl 4 is when it shows up iirc). Granted its not hard CC and requires a 2 point dip into geo but in terms of physical CC you could do with a bow out its one of the best hes got and sets him up for earthquake later on
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>larianiggers will defend this
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>>431535912
this has already been posted in the thread
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>>431534463
Just cleared that area at level 11 with a split party and it was piss easy, git gud. Warfare/Necro, Huntsman, Aero, Hydro has handled everything perfectly fine so far.
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>>431506000
>>431505779
Summoning is garbage
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>>431535912
>anon is embarassed to read a sex scene
wewlad

Fucking zoomers I swear
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>>431535912
>never posting new material to bash on Larian with.
Step your game up anon. I can't take you seriously.
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>>431536078
A powered up incarnate is basically another party member. It's far from garbage.
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>>431535912
hmmmmm
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>>431535778
Im impatient on when orb of strife is going to be ported desu
Also fire immunity doesnt seem to protect from volatile voidling death explosions
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Besides breaking the portrait chain, is there any way to tell my party members to not move?
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>>431536428
Killing them
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>>431532150
Wasn't it nerfed shortly after release? This is a pretty old image.
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>>431536428
you could try throwing a barrel of deathfog
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So how do you guys like to split up your party? 2/2 even split? 3/1 focus on one damage type but have a backup? 4/0 all in on a single damage type? I usually do a sort of 3/1 or 2/2 physical damage focused split with a summoner being able to flex between magic and physical as needed. I still need to figure out another flex option to make a proper 2/2 split with two dedicated to their damage type and the other two flexing as needed. Maybe geo/necro.
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>>431536467
it's still the hardest hitting physical skill
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>>431536502
2 phys
1 healer
1 summoner that summons either magic or physical incarnate as the situation demands
my favorite tactic lately is summoning cursed electric incarnate and running it in the middle of everything to summon the cursed steam donut of 100000000 electric damage
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>>431536502
2/2 physical/magic split with 2 melee range and 2 long range is what I've been using and it's been a breeze. Don't really like relying on summoner in a split party because adding summons to the turn order makes it too easy.
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I just finished my first play through and I'm not sure what to move onto now.
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>>431536502
On Tactician I'm 3-1 Physical-Magic. One Two-hander, one Dagger, one Archer and one Aero/Hydro mage with a shield. This setup ensures that I can use almost every piece of equipment that drops.

This is however, grossly inefficient.

For the smoothest ride you really should just have two sword and board and two Elf archers. Elf Archers have Flesh Sacrifice into Elemental Blood Arrows into Adrenaline. The Sword and Boards with one point in Polymorph for the absurd Tentacle and Chicken should be able to hold the line assuming you enter every fight with the archers in excellent safe positions. A single Elf archer can fucking shred a physical-armor-focused unit's armor with 6AP and a Mage can possibly go down in 2-4AP.

Another broken as fuck setup is just summoning.

The optimal setup however, is really fucking boring to play.
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>>431537262
Optimal play can also make use of a ton of stupid shit, like leaving a teleport pyramid at the undertavern in Driftwood to smoke one of those bonus AP granting herb mixtures before every single encounter.
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>>431536273
Must be a different damage type on the explosion itself.
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>>431501023
Is Divinity 2 worth playing on console.
I ask because I have a toaster and wanna play it but if its a shit port then meh.
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>>431538178
Divinity 2 is incredibly old, your toaster should handle it just fine.
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>>431537915
That was actually the wrong image
One of the voidlings in a corner had fire immunity aura. I killed the ones not covered by his buff and their explosions killed and set off voidlings that were covered by it.
It must be some magic damage type unused for anything else because its still applied to magic armor before vitality
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>>431538410
I meant the new one.
Divinity Original Sin 2.
I just shorthanded it.
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>>431538464
It's difficult to imagine anybody playing this game on console. The vast majority of people who exclusively play on console just aren't interested in CRPGs.

I'm just saying that it's unlikely anybody has an answer for you because we're probably all on PC.
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>>431536502
Right I should mention for my current run I'm doing magic oriented 3/1 or well 2/1 + summoner. So thats a daggers rogue, aero/hydro mage, aero "battlemage", and summoner. Its going less well than my previous 3/1 physical run and I'm starting to see why some people preferred physical oriented parties more.

>>431537262
I'd agree that summoning is strong but I'd hardly call it broken. In vanilla the incarnate, as the main draw of the skill tree, was strong but it fell behind in the late game, which honestly was fine since the summoner had to do some legwork as well to keep up. It still boggles my mind though that they buffed the incarnate in DE. Like I can understand buffs to the other spells in the school since a lot of the other summoning skills weren't that useful or worth it to cast but the incarnate was already in a good place it didn't need buffs.
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How do I enter coordinates on the map?
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>>431538785
Curse of the toaster
Shame game looked awesome but its a lotta dosh to put down if the game controls like ass on console.
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>party member gets charmed
>uses every single available potion/scroll in bag
>moves wildly out of position
>sets himself and entire party on fire

>enemy gets charmed
>literally just runs out of sight so the charm debuff wears off without doing anything else
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>>431501023
The game gets way easier as you progress.
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Reminder that Marg > Grog
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>>431510232
> It cannot be understated
Lmao imagine being worse at English than an EFL
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Why are the encounters so weirdly distributed in the driftwood area? I went to the black pits thinking I'd be fine after doing Mordus' arc and getting my second source point. Enemies leading up to it are around level 12-13, but then it's throwing me into encounters with level 14-16s.

Larian wants the game to be open, but shit's so weirdly gated I don't know where or what the fuck I'm supposed to do.
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>>431539883
I was fine doing exactly that tho
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>>431516013
It's one guy
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>>431538178
I don't know about the second one, but I did try a controller with the first for shits and giggles and it was surprisingly fun and manageable.
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>>431539968
Well how the fuck are you supposed to beat the encounter with the dudes near the dock, or the one where 50 million voidwoken spawn near the oil rig.

Another thing, this game has a habit of constantly spawning enemies out of nowhere and making encounters tedious as fuck
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>>431539883
Driftwood is a magical place with a lot of sidequests that larian sort of expects you to do to level up in between the major areas but as long as you're keeping your gear mostly up to date to your current level a level or two of difference shouldn't be too hard to overcome. My general flow of the place goes something like this(spoilered for obvious reasons):

9-11: arrive, do non-combat or low-level sidequests, save siva, vape, get second source point, vape again, do more sidequests
11-12/13: Mordus + mabye 3rd source point
12/13-14:Stonegarden
14-16:Blackpits + Lone Wolf camp + 3rd source point if didn't take from mordus
16-17:Bloodmoon isle -> optional bosses, end act
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Real talk. Is this and the first game any good. Thinking about buying both
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>>431540409
>the one where 50 million voidwoken spawn near the oil rig
Not sure about other people but I just cast the source spell of my custom character (dome of protection or whatever) and this fight didn't give me any trouble whatsoever because every turn I had full armor as well as high ground advantage
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>>431538801
Summoning is the "beginner" skill because your character is a heavy armor wand shield guy who's one goal in life is to summon and buff incarnate and spam totems and stay alive while they do their magic. By the time it falls off you should have maxed summoning and branched out to hydro support so you aren't complete dead weight. The other skills don't scale off summoning so you can just level it to the bare minimum for the skill you want if you don't want anything to do with incarnates and totems.
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>>431540536
where do you get second source point that early without mordus?
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I bet OP got FROGGED
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>>431540538
combat becomes a chore later on because of shitty armor system
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>>431501023
>3 or 4 shot
The fuck am I reading? The "shot" suffix is reserved for only "one" and sometimes "two" is acceptable. Dude what the fuck they 50 shot me lmao

Fuck off
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>>431540536
The problem is alot of the side quests are scattered all over the place and alot of them play into the main quest.
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>>431540749
You mean CROCCED
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>>431540409
>50 million voidwoken spawn near the oil rig.
Have armor of frost and bless on most of your dudes, and maybe TP to send magisters out of your platform. killing is secondary to keeping your dudes alive since magisters and voidwoken will play with each other. Really its more difficult to keep the NPC alive or your toaster from overheating.

>the encounter with the dudes near the dock
If you mean the one with magister raymond and the other magister you leave that til after most of the cave, and besides one of the two level 16 enemies leaves mid-way through the fight.

>>431540624
Bloodmoon isle, the advocate gives it to you as a sign of goodwill at the start of his quest. Just need an undead or source vision to make it there
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>>431540943
I didn't take his source because he seemed shady as fuck.
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>>431540624
There are 6 possible ways to get a new source point slot and you only need to do 2.
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>>431502005
Lmao, so play on casul difficulty story mode
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What changed in the Definitive Edition besides the graphics? Any recommended mod collection for autists?
Thinking of trying it out again, I got bored after the first act.
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>>431541323
I am waiting for ports for retexture mods (especially char models and armor fixes for elves), tooltip controls. Alchemy overhaul is already ported, but I will not play until other two are also in.
Aside from that, most class/skill line packs are very good.
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>>431540619
Fair enough, I do agree its probably one of the most beginner-friendly skill schools in the entire game and hydro/aero helps keep it relevant later on. I still don't agree that its broken in the OP sense but yeah basically idiot-proof to build and play.

>>431541156
I mean you're not wrong. Of the source masters I'd rank him near the top in terms of shadiness, but getting livewood shield early just makes the transition into driftwood-tier gear much easier
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>>431502208
It is possible, but you need to abuse thievery and have a summoner in the party.
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>>431541615
Summoning is useful because its 100% damage versatile until you branch off and start doing spells of your own. Even then you'll probably spend most of the time buffing and healing/support spells come easily to a summoner anyway.

Summoners are like rangers in that they are amazing in that they can both do both types of damage with basically zero effort.
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>>431510232
Some base Con is important in order not to get one shot
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>>431541257
yes but I figured there's at least one combat you can't avoid before talking to advocate
I remember some voidwoken attacking in the middle of his conversation
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>>431542676
only if you insist on making him do something he doesnt want to do
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I want to start a second playthrough on tactician since the Definitive Edition came out. Which would be more fun: 2 lone wolves or modding in a 6 man party?
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Friendly reminder that becoming divine is the ONLY good ending.
Rivellone is becoming top-tier country and everyone's happy.
You're beloved Divine who're praised everywhere, fighting voidshits for fun and making everyone's life better.
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>>431542739
so mentioning the god king triggers that batt
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>>431542676
Nope absolutely zero combat, hell I can get pretty close to 11 before starting any fights.
>Dock
>avoid obvious voidwoken fight
>unlock siva's basement/save siva with persuade, vape for spirit vision; or be undead
>talk to advocate
>Don't persuade him to say the thing he really doesn't want to say
>Accept his offer
>2nd source point!
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>>431542960
They're both going to be piss easy. At least lone wolf means combat is taking forever due to an inflated turn order.
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>tfw permanent steam donuts mark every place I've had a fight for the rest of the game
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>>431531245
I'm not an autistic incel
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>>431531274
Just throw your shield nigga
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>>431529131
If you're a thief you can open your friends inventory and steal anything from him at any time
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I miss old reactive armor tactical claymore nukes
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the phoenix egg hatches now
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>>431544675
post proofs
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>Can't do shit with the squirrel guy that follows you unless you have pet pal on your MC
>Ifan is the only one who has it by default
That's fucking stupid
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>>431545291
You know any character can take pet pal right?

Who cares about that one talent you couldn't pick to finish your character. Most are situational as hell.
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Is it evil to source-suck dead voidwoken? Asking for a friend.
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>>431544786
Not that guy but there's a phoenix chick running around on the Lady Vengeance in the epilogue.
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>>431501023
You can cheese most of the game tactics by just having a character with summoning over 10 on the first island. The summon is just a fucking monster and OP af with teleport and charges with too much HP. Also make your main character fane so that you can heal yourself with poison and fake death and tank infinitely with your summon that has too much HP.
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>>431529719
>>431529569
Some fucking top tier taste we have here
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>>431545773
youre godwoken you do what you want
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>>431502005
>Absolutely no thinking out the box at all
>Didn't take Death Fog barrels
>Didn't steal a fuckton of equipment from the vendors
>Didn't abuse the surroundings
>Probably just bashed his head against the enemies like a brainlet

Do I have to remind you that DOS2 is really fucking liberal with what it lets you do in combat?
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>>431504620
I killed the demon, and was looting his gore room when I talked to her so she played the song in the room with a mass of corpses and it just felt wrong
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>>431529719
>>431530021
Both of these. Especially because I always play as a female lizard and Sebille gets extra edgy if you're a scaly. Always dump her ass in the sand.
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Im still mad you cant make Lohse play the song if she's your MC
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>>431512012
how did you manage the darkest dungeon with no deaths?
i always lost atleast 1 guy due to unlucky crits
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>>431508967
git gud
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>>431547310
Sounds like an elf lover
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>>431547506
They already gassed the elves
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>>431540536
Fuck Mordus, that took forever
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>>431543002
>unlock siva's basement/save siva with persuade, vape for spirit vision; or be undead
>or be undead

does being undead do something specific here?
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>>431547656
gets you on bloodmoon island without saving siva
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>>431547726
Couldn't do that anyway? The bridge isn't exactly hard.

Also you can do it without being undead. Just kills the person who does it. Pyramid to their corpse and ressurect.
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>>431547805
its kinda hard without spirit vision
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>>431547846
>spirit vision
Good lord I think the first time I did the bridge I just didn't use spirit vision at all.

Holy shit im retarded. I just tossed a pyramid around via teleport.
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>>431549191
It's entirely true.
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>>431549191
Feels good when you kill Jahan with a barrel of deathfog that you get from the start of the game. I got two levels off of his death.
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>>431550425
>killing based jahan
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Why the fuck can't you expand the UI to show two rows of skills? Is there some setting I'm missing? Manuall scrolling between different quickbars is stupid.
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>>431550998
Just the way they wanted to do it. You couldn't in the first game either.
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>>431550765

Some people are truly hopeless.
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>>431551131
I haven't gotten that far but if he talks shit he's gonna get hit.
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>>431551176
he's a demon hunter and it's Lohse talking to him what the fuck do you expect
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>>431550765
>not wanting to kill Jahan for your god king or adramahlihk play through
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>>431551176
he's being entirely truthful
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What's the most fun class you've tried out? Assassins seem fucking deadly with torturer now.
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>>431552741
is bleeding good enough to put torturer on an assassin over something like picture of health?
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>>431551335
Did DE change how God King works?
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>>431549191
Can someone tell me about Jahan? I played 1 all the way through but he wasn't one of my companions.
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>>431553258
not really.

>>431553503
He's just a semi-immortal wizard because he bargined his soul for an extended life.
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>>431554105
So he hates demons because he got screwed in the deal or what?
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>>431510384
>ice slipping
nigga just put nails on your shoes lol
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>>431554326
That's the point anon. Easily preventable
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>>431554295
More or less, yes. he and Arhu are basically the two most important "humans" alive.
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>>431534605
Way better
1 is a 7/10
2 is a 9.5/10
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>>431546947
>2 out of 4 party dead
>still about 5-6 enemies with 2 levels on us
>run one guy away until he gets out of combat
>have lohse kite enemies away with teleport
>resurrect dead members from max distance
>summon a level 10 blood incarnate into the fight
>sneak all of them back in with preemptive attacks
I couldn't help but feel like I was cheating
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>>431534605
1 is a great game thats not for everyone purely through how eurojank it can be.
But within that jank is a pretty all around great game. Especially given you can only really play the EE now.

2 is, by far, a vastly more refined game and a perfect example of a sequel learning from the first games failures.
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Been using the hydromancer and pryo mods from the work shop that enhances the spells and adds some new ones. Been fun stacking dots on people with scorch
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>>431555450
It might be because I'm on tactician but the armor system really hurts 2 for me. I adored 1's combat on tactician. It was the perfect amount of difficulty and rewarded creativity. The armor system completely changed how combat feels, it's still good, but I prefer 1's. That said just about everything else about 2 is what you said, learning from past mistakes.
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>>431555775
>I liked RNG status ailments that can completely shift combat on tiny percent chances
yeah how about no.
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>Stopped playing in Act 2 because of pet pal bug
>They still haven't fixed it yet
Larian pls
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>>431546947
You can take the dfog barrels?
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>>431555873
That wasn't perfect either and definitely needed to be changed. I'd have preferred a more subtle change though. Hell combat in 1 worked best when RNG wasn't even a factor. Maybe just remove it. Maybe have certain abilities start on cooldown at the beginning of combat. There are other ways around it. I just don't like the armor much.

>>431556079
What bug?
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>>431556231
He's probably retarded and lost pet pal because hannag literally tells you she'll take that power away from you.
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>>431556231
After the boat, pet pal stopped working on my MC.
Its apparently happening to a fair number of people.
Respecing doesn't fix it either.
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>>431556214
People always talk about taking it but it always blows itself up before I get to it.
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>>431502005
Youre a fucking faggot thats why. The beginning of the game is the only hard part. After fort joy the game became a cake walk.
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>>431556420
You need 2 points in tele to move it before it explodes.
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>>431556316
I haven't even met Hannag yet, or any of the source teachers.
It stopped randomly after entering driftwood as far as I can tell, somewhere between entering undertavern and fighting the bugs inside the fishery basement.
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>>431534605
The combat system was better in 1 (no armor/magic armor stuff)
This made the game super easy divinity 2. Because once armor is gone you can chain cc forever.

While of course rng cc isnt best solution, it is definitely the better version
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Any beginner advice? I was told to not use a custom character and to pick fane and lohse and not use characters that split damage (which is a shame because a warfare necromancer combo with a sort of death Knight theme seemed cool)
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>>431556717
Split damage is fine in DE. It can be quite nice even.
Just don't COMPLETELY focus split damage. Keep something like a summoner, archer, etc that can do do both elements and physical damage, and keep some powerful shit like Chloroform and good elemental abilities in check for good times to use.
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>>431508967
>not using stab
How did you have enough brain cells to function in life.
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>>431556717
Custom character is fine. I like my custom a lot. I used to be all phys or all magic too but I'm trying split now and it's actually working better. It has disadvantages, like it's shit against single targets, but it's still totally fine. Make sure someone has summoning though as it can easily do both physical and magical damage depending on which surface you use. Necromancer is a good way to give your int characters physical damage as well, mosquito swarm is fucking great.
If you pick tactician you're going to need to do that thing where you do the first quarter of every available quest for experience before you can proceed to the next section of each, at least in Fort Joy. It evens out once you finish act 1 but the start of tactician is fucking hell because of how armor works.
o'en 'e chesh!
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>>431556978

Ao go for one type of damage or role over the other, but use the opposite kind of damage more as a way to supplement and compliment the other, right?
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>>431556978
This is, ultimately, what people make mistakes on.

They think "split damage" so they think "oh pyro and warfare on my strength 2hander".
No that makes you retarded. "split damage" means having players that can do scaling versions of both. If you are a strength 2hander, something like Medusa head does a lot of magic damage. As does assisting skills like flamebrand, sparkswings,etc.

One of the easiest parties to stomp through the game with is one that's about 75/25 damage on each person. You never want to have someone be useless, so they should always have a purpose.
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>>431555623
Chronomancer and spectre mods are also amazing.
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>>431557402
'on't o'en eh 'est!
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This thread smells worse than a dozen rotten eggs dropped in a vat of vinegar.
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>>431558061
>Chronomancer

Go on, time magic makes my penis go boi-yoi-yoing
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>>431556717
Custom characters are fine, they just miss out on Personal Quests and generally feel less involved in the world. Also no special dialog, which doesn't matter too much because you still have Dialog Tags to use when wanted anyways.

I still have a tough time playing as one though. Always feel like I'm missing out on shit because of it.
Was going to play as a fat tit dwarf ranger but instead ended up playing as Prince.
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>peeper can't become a voidling companion
>bear cub at the start can't become a companion
>phoenix egg can't hatch and become a companion
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>>431558463
phoenix egg does hatch anon
in the epilogue and it does absolutely nothing
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>>431558231
They're by the same mod author. I personally download mods off nexusmods.
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Man I really wanted to have an aerothurge mage with my rogue, knight and ranger, but it doesn't really work in this game. I guess I'll respecc her into summoning+hydro.
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>>431559758
>he doesn't know about huntsman aero mage.
It's like you don't like seeing 3k crits.
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>>431559758
Summoning is good, but you could also turn your Aeromage into a full-range elemental buffer and tank instead.

2 Points Aero for Teleport and shit like Favorable Wind, focusing on Hydro and Geo for shield regeneration, maybe a point in pyro for Clear Mind, and a point in Necro for Blood Rain and Blood Sucker for massive heals.

And equip a shield and boom, you've a beefy buffer.
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>>431551335
>being either shit king slave or demonslut
Disgusting
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>>431560864
Female Lizard, how is this even a question?
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>>431560864
female lizard
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>>431559758
of course it works
I have the same party as you with an aero+hydro mage and its great
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>>431560995
Icebreakers damage is so retarded strong.
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throw this shit game in garbage and buy Deadfire, NOW!
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>>431561038
>mfw avellone consulted on DOS2
Sawyer mad.
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I can't find any info on this online. How do different weapons affect how the scaling changes from, for example, how warfare skills scale off of strength but can scale off of dex instead? Does that mean I could use a staff since it makes skills scale off of dex and get some warfare skills so they scale off of it. Maxing a magic user with some warfare skills?
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You can consume the witches potion in act 2 and play the entire game as your MC turned into a useless cow

How amusing
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>>431561164
Wrong.
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>>431561686
Yeah he probably really isn't.
But Avellone did consult on DOS2 for quite awhile. The whole DOS vs POE shit is all fake anyway. Basically one autist who just spams a lot.
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>>431561474
warfare skills scale off your weapon, not strength. so if you are using daggers/spear/bow then they are effected by finesse, or by your int for wands/staves
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I'm only on chapter 2 still but is it normal xbow rangers are kinda OP? Might be because i specced Sebille into Glass Cannon, but her basic attacks do more damage than RP with a decent 2hander even without high ground bonuses. They both have similar main stats and perks.
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>>431563320
ranger is probably the highest physical damage output
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>>431563320
ranged auto attack is the best attack in the game
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>>431563408
So its true then. I started out wanting to make her into a semi-support role but the dps she dishes out is insane, and with glass cannon she pretty much kills a unit every turn.
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>>431563320
wait till you get the two-handed unique hammer from lothar, then your warrior will really start fucking shit up
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>>431563675
i found a better hammer than that in a random barrel
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>>431563320
2handers have whirlwind, bull rush, and knock downs. Rangers are more focused on single target 1 turn burns.

Arrow storm invalidates all of that but at that point you're essentially god.
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>>431556717
try not to go phys/mag on a single character
having a 2/2 split is fine though
warfare and necro synergize well because necro spells deal phys damage and warfare increases phys damage

consider playing the game and figuring it out as you go because you won't understand why some things are better than others unless you actually go and play and find out for yourself what does and doesn't work
you can respec infinitely once you finish act 1 so stop worrying so much and go enjoy yourself
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How do you do summoner/necro? You cant do fun shit with bloated corpses due to the silly one summon limit.
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>>431564127
are any of the necro spells actually good? if you have 3 levels of necro you will lifesteal so much with your attacks that you will never need to cast them
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>>431556717
Split damage does not mean don't spread points among different classes, it means don't use an ability that scales with int if you have 1 int and 99 str.

Your character is guaranteed to be worthless if you don't supplement his main damage abilities with spells from other classes.
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>>431564426
Living on the Edge is nice when you're feeling lazy and just want to blitz a fight down.
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>>431564426
holy shit yes
mosquito swarm is a decent ranged spell that'll do phys damage and inflict bleed (resist by armor)
blood rain does what rain does (make enemies wet, create puddles, put out fire) but also bleeds enemies (resist by armor)
infest does ungodly amounts of damage (but costs 3 ap, get elemental affinity and stand in blood to reduce cost by 1) and inflicts infest (lowers damage dealt) which spreads to nearby enemies (NOT RESISTED BY ARMOR!)
necro gets some crazy shit, don't underestimate
also has some good utility spells that give more life steal or make an enemy receive all the damage you get (this one's fun and can be abused)
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>>431508967
>Going to ruins without Vestal or Crusader
>Jester without buffs in the backline
>Not using the pickaxe that ignores armor
>Using the most RNG healer in the game and in the frontline when Eldritch enemies barely exist in the ruins
He deserves it
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>>431564710
does torturer make blood rain an aoe bleed through armor?
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>>431564710
>which spreads to nearby allies
ftfy
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>>431564710
bleed sucks though, and they do less damage than your normal attacks
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>>431564710
How's bloodstorm in DE now?
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>>431564976
>they do less damage than your normal attacks
not if you pump int/warfare

>>431565019
supposedly it's been nerfed
haven't gotten it myself yet
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>>431501756
Dwarfs are boring.
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>>431565093
>int
that makes sense then
I have necro on my finesse rogue
are there even any int weapons that deal physical damage?
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>>431565231
no, wands and staves are all magical damage, and warfare skills will deal magical damage if you use them with these weapons (which is fun for battlemages)
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>>431565231
Ive seen wands that do piercing damage but never any staff or wand thats just physical.
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>>431512810
>Deadfire anon 2 hours late
Not based.
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>>431565335
necro seems like a pretty shit anti-synergy then, you invest points into warfare and int and you have basically one reliable attack in mosqutio swarm with a 3 turn cd
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How do you guys feel about that one line with Ifan where you can randomly start to romance him or something? It was somewhere during Fort Joy.

It was so random and felt forced.
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>>431564338
By using a mod that increase summon limit.
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>>431565719
mosquito swarm
infest
decaying touch + blood suck
bouncing shield
corpse explosion
add utility skills as needed

i do agree that necro works better as an add-on for meleeboys who want some nifty shit to keep them alive while they go crazy, but necro casters work just fine and you'd be silly to think otherwise
you don't need a shitload of skills, you only need just enough to get by
the less points you spend on memory the more you can put into int and wits for damage and more damage
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>>431566024
No that was when you're high on weed in act 3.

Act 1 was just finding out he cant hold his drink.
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>>431566221
How do you juggle cooldowns though? Also alot of those spells have pretty bad range.
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>>431566313
No, there was a line in Act 1 where he basically asks you if you are coming on to him I think. I wish I could remember exactly how it went. I think it was as soon as you got out of Fort Joy and started exploring the marshes.
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>>431566221
Necro casters are really pretty shit until you get the big source skills on them. Even if you grab skin graft to reset your cooldowns there isn't enough for them to do each turn. Two ranged damage skills plus corpse explosion if there happens to be a useable corpse nearby is just not enough.
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>>431566449
Skin graft?
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>>431566024
>>431566313
>>431566510
Yeah the drunk line was definitely a little homo.
I also accidentally romanced in the Undertavern when the option to celebrate came up.

I didn't realize "You're the best part of the adventure" was a romance thing.
I must be autistic.
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>>431534605
I prefer OS1, but 2 is still very good.
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>Get to Act 2
>Suddenly get urge to restart with a new character and a completely (or mostly) different team composition
Fucking god damn hell.
Anyone else know this feel?
I'm not liking playing as Red Prince as much as I'd have hoped.
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>>431566907
That's just saying you have fun adventuring with them. They made some great kills, actions, etc.

It really shouldn't mean "Let's be gay!"
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>>431539181
How would a riftborn character be built? All esoteric aero and ice spells?
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>>431567080
Why?

Isn't OS2 improved in most ways?
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>>431566907
>I must be autistic.
no this game has terrible writing especially when it comes to player dialogue options
i had ifan as a party member and it felt like half my lines with him were trying to trick me into gay sex

>>431567132
just respec dude
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>>431567181
>>431566907
In fairness its the romance flag and it works irregardless if the avatar is male or female.
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>>431540538
OS1 and 2 are great if you like the genre, really can't get much better.

Also, OS2 multiplayer is fucking awesome if you have 4 people dedicated to playing. The amount of dickass theiving and/or co-op bromode fights are fucking awesome.
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>>431567324
Its not that hard to avoid romance flags, especially Ifan's.
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>>431567461
>irregardless
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>>431567557
its still pretty awkward, its like it doesn't account for gender at all
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>>431534605
Depends. (Magic) Armor kinda ruined combat. Now it's about nuking enemies and statuses are pretty shit. By the time you depleted their (magic) armor, they're basically dead anyway.
Besides that, basically everything has been improved.
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>>431562479

Oh that makes a huge fucking difference. I can actually make a warfare necro blood knight that uses both then. Or mix warfare and scoundrel. And using both magic and physical damage is actually not a big deal right?
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>>431562479

If I'm a ranger using a bow, will magical skills scale off something else?
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>>431568530
The only skills that scale off different weapon types are warfare skills. All magical skills scale off INT and all huntsman/scoundrel skills scale off FIN. Warfare skills scale off of whatever your weapon does.
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>>431568297
You still generally want each character to focus on one damage type, it's just that having a split damage party is still ok.
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>>431568297
your weapon is still affected by its base stat though, as previously pointed out, necro sucks because there's no int physical weapons. You should mix warfare and scoundrel though, it's better than plain scoundrel. There aren't really any efficient builds that mix physical and magical on one character
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>>431569976
Master of Sparks for the sheer amount of magical hits you can hit can work somewhat, but yeah.
The only way a character can put decent magical and physical damage on the field is essentially with summons
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>>431539181
run rupture tendons alongside charms then.

>not keeping clear minded scrolls for backup
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>>431569006

That kind of sucks. Would be cool if there were similar things for other skill trees.
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>>431567630
Irregardless just sounds better and has been mistaken so many times it's starting to enter the common vernacular. It's the same reason OK is standard now when it was originally a purposefully incorrect shortening
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>>431531245
Sebille just needs a hug. Her edgy intro dialogue aside, she was always quite respectful towards my character and she becomes legitimately cool and likeable later in the game. Her crowning herself "the queen of the world" and "knighting" the PC as her champion was a really cute character moment - especially if the PC plays along.
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>finding 2-4 people to play this with you semi consistently
>they get pissy when you get sick of waiting weeks to progress

Holy shit just tell me of you aren't going to commit so I can just make two lone wolf characters.
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>>431570609
>Irregardless just sounds better
No it doesn't you fucking idiot.
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>>431573132
It literally flows better because Ir has more flow than a hard R. I mean literally sounds better, said out loud, unless you've got a really inbred accent
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>>431567324
>just respec dude
I know it exists, but I mean I want to play as different characters too.
I wanna play as an OC sometime but I also like most Origin characters stories, shits hard man.
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>>431573625
the only difference is your racial ability and your source ability
characters are blank slates
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What build should I do as Red Prince?
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>>431574878
wizard
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>>431574878
>What build should I do as Red Prince
none lizards are irredeemable garbage in in de.
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>>431574878
Lizard Wizard
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>>431574878
Lizard Wizard while listening to King Gizzard And The Lizard Wizard so you can become a King Lizard Wizard.
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>>431574878
pyro battlemage
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>>431514940
From the sound of it I doubt you finished Week 3
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>make shit build on purpose
>play on tactician
>having a blast and somehow not have nearly as much of a problem as OP

I think the only blessing I got in life was not being THAT much of a brainlet. You gotta count your blessings.
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>tfw the ending is literally just showing that the Magisters were right all along

Don't know how I feel about this.
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Whats a fun magic build?
I did physical focused last time, I wanna do a pseudo-magic focus this time and I know not what magic bringeth to the table.
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>>431577351
Was Braccus Rex and all the morally bankrupt Source masters you meet in act 2 not enough of a hint that Source is overall pretty shitty?
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Can get the armor in the Red Prince's origin video? Looks cool
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>>431577351
Demons, war, and chaos don't require source, and there will still be worship, the gods just won't be real
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>>431501023
Dying from 4 good enemy hits isn't even uncommon in video games, especially when you control multiple characters and can afford to get some down.
Are you new to vidya?
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>>431501023
fucking git gud jesus
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>install armor system rework and armor based saving throw
>game improves
Kinda nice not having to worry about split damage parties. At the same time keeping armor up is still important to prevent getting CCd to death and getting a small amount of healing. Some of those skill pack/class mods are also pretty alright.
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>>431501023
perhaps you should
>git gud
before you complain ?
>>431501382
my thoughts exactly, been waiting for a decent sale
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Which available armor genre looks best on a Dwarf chick? STR, FIN, INT?
Them tits my dude.
I feel kind of bad for them, those things look like they get in the way a lot.
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>>431555450
>eurojank
I miss OS1's """""balance""""" sometimes.
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>>431501023
>too stupid to keep enemies almost permanently stunned or distracted
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Why are poison spells so meh? I was expecting some cool shit but it's all meh.
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>>431538464
I'm playing on xbone and it took a minute to get use to the layout but it's not a problem once you get use to it.
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>>431579574
because they're actually undead healing spells
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>>431579574
they double as heal spells for skellies
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>>431579574
Because it inevitably turns into fire, the superior school of spells.
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>>431579208
that webm is maximum bullshit literelly dead after 1 spell pathetic
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>>431580127
>want to take advantage of elemental affinity so I can cast geo spells for cheap
>slam down some oil/poison with the intent to stand in it when given the chance
>AI ignites it as soon as they can, even when I'm not standing in it
AAAAAAAHHHH
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>>431580484
just cast rain into contamination, silly
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>>431580372
if you want to see bullshit webm, go look at the bullshit morrowind webm's where people die to rats/mudcrabs while swinging all the time.

some dude made a webm where he shows that he builds the literally worst possible character and still doesn't die
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Don't be a hoarder. Remember to actually use your stockpile of grenades and special arrows.
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>>431580732
No, I will hold on to them in case I get in even worse situation then end the game and beat the final boss without ever using a single one
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>>431580732
i sell all my grenades
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>>431580732
I just sell them immediately. I know I won't use them anyway.
The only exception is poison potions because otherwise fane eats shit every battle.
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>>431581128
The love and mind maggot ones seem worth keeping.
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>>431581128
No wonder you idiots have so much trouble with the game. You have no idea how to play it. Good grief
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>>431581239
beating it on tactician without breaking a sweat faglord





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