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GTA IV is better than GTA V
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>>434793912
why did they ease up on da' popo in gta 5?
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I loved making NPCs dance by shooting and pushing them in 4. It's a shame they toned it down in 5.
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>>434793912
driving in 4 was garbage though
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>>434794149
This, makes the game such a chore
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>>434794149
That's opinion based. If you like easy arcade driving, you'll like V. If you like semi-realistic driving with a bit of challenge, you'll like IV
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GTA 4 is more interesting from a game-physics point but cars driving like shopping carts filled with tons of rocks isn't realistic at all
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>>434793912
>liking the ice driving in IV
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>>434793912
they both are fairly boring games
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I liked 5 a lot more, though 4 was pretty amazing for 2008
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>>434793912
No, GTA4 was garbage and any amount of nostalgia to try to change that won't.
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>>434794238
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>>434794302
Absolute plebs
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V tried way too hard with the memeical social commentary whether they were ironic or not
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old game good
new game bad
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>>434794421
this was one of my favorite things to do. i remember chinatown wars gave points for those really near misses
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>>434794239
>driving like my grandma
>challenge
Nah, it just sucks. IV apologists need to fuck off
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>>434794421
This looks horrible.
>>434794239
>Realistic

Where do you find cars that handle like that? Do you only drive shitty European cars from slavic countries circa 1952?
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>>434794420
Nostalgia isn't an argument, and it's what every little V loving faggot screeches in every GTA thread
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>IV is so shallow you have to justify it's better by cherrypicking shit nobody cares about
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>>434794239
people liked the easy arcade driving in III, VC, SA, LCS, and VCS. It's one thing to like realistic driving but that's never what GTA was about. You can't pull off hardly any of the shit you could in the other games because of the buttertires.

Car damage was more fun though.
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>>434794032
ease up? theyre psychic in GTAV and they literally spawn in right infront of you, only have to tap you to P.I.T and will run straight to where youre hiding
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>>434794423
And 4 tried too hard to be deep when in the end you were a fucking psychopath choosing with psychopaths to kill.
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>>434794531
I said semi-realistic you illiterate fuck. Although yes IV's driving is 10x closer to what it's actually like in real life compared to V's arcade shit
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>>434793912
Your webm shows V's cops doing more shit than IV though.
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GTA IV has a better police system than V but the driving is not better.

Other things that sucked in GTA IV

-The minigames
-Everyone constantly calling you via phone for dates
-The city being empty as fuck
-Nico Bellic is a trash character and so is his story. Only the two addons actually gave us a decent story and decent main characters
-Barely any weapons (Addons fixed that as well)
-Multiplayer didn't last and it was tied to GFWL on PC
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>>434794032
It didn't seem like they did. I'd be in the middle of bumfuck nowhere wilderness and pop off a shot and suddenly I've got a wanted level which the cops respond to within seconds.
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>>434794614
i dont know what you think is deep if you cant garner the message behind that
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>>434794589
>You can't pull off hardly any of the shit you could in the other games because of the buttertires.
You definitely can, it just takes practice. And it's a ton more satisfying when you do pull off something cool due to the fact that there is actually a learning curve to the driving.
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>>434794421
What were they thinking with that camera angle

AND

What were they thinking with how much the car tilts
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I like both games quite a bit.

In GTAIV I always dreaded getting into a proper car chase since most higher end cars are literally unusable in that situation. I had to actively avoid using any muscle or sports car because of that.

On the other hand the police in GTAV are total shit.
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>>434794642
Nico >>> everyone in 5
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>>434794032
>ease up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oTAwu_BAsE
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>>434794635
>Literally just ass-packing you over and over
You're retarded
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>>434794721
have you ever watched a muscle car take a corner before?
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>>434794751
Not sure.
He is better than the memelord Trevor atleast. Otherwise he is pretty on par with the other two shitheads.
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>>434794635
>attempts to pull out in front and to the side of the car in v
>rams the back of the car a few times in iv
yeah but if you shoot a guy in iv he stumbles around like a drunk so who can say which is better
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>>434794421
>drive in a straight line
>one wide turn (that would have spun out if it wasn't for that bump by the other car)

Even the cherry picked webms are shit. It's okay to admit that IV's driving is shit.
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>>434794556
>A completely different police AI is "cherry-picking"
Wow I'm actually impressed at how retarded you are
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>>434794556
Half the game is running from police, how is police AI and PIT mechanics in any way a nitpick or unimportant? V is more polished, but gta iv had better physics mechanics and police AI, two very important aspects of a crime-based sandbox game
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>>434794635
they're executing the pit maneuver
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>>434794924
>"It's cherry-picked!"
Why do V faggots have no actual arguments and resort to buzzwords like "NOSTALGIA!" and "cherry-picked" in every one of these threads?
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>>434794887
Nigger what? You got the two completely mixed up. Proof read your sentences before submitting.
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>all the things in the video (other than the driving) are tiny inconsequential mechanics that had literally no relevancy in either of the games
>nothing to do with the actual gameplay, game design, story, or music
really makes you think
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>>434793912
>Cops randomly crashing into walls and cars
Realistic
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>>434795125
>Cops repeatedly ramming you up the ass at full speed
Realistic
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>>434795024
they only say they're cherrypicked because they are

IV does a lot of things better than V. I don't understand why you latch onto the shitty driving of all things.
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>>434794421
GTAV babs on suicide watch
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>>434795107
How in the fuck is police ai a "tiny inconsequential mechanic"? You people are literally brain dead
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>>434794721
the camera angle is fine, god forbid you need some spatial awareness. the rolling is over-the-top, but i prefer that to V complete arcade lack of roll. but i agree they should have toned down the roll in IV
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>>434794730
>In GTAIV I always dreaded getting into a proper car chase since most higher end cars are literally unusable in that situation. I had to actively avoid using any muscle or sports car because of that.
use the fucking brakes retard
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>>434795243
If it wasn't the driving it would still be "cherry-picked". Like this webm. right here. Another perfect example of IV being better than V
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>>434795430
>use the fucking brakes retard
This is where IV fans differ from V fans. IV actually requires some thought when driving and you can't just pin the gas the entire time while taking corners at full speed. This pisses off the V fan, therefore IV's driving is "shit"
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>>434794423
At least V was just a joke, IV was a pioneer of SJW shit in games.
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I enjoyed GTA4's driving and got pretty good at it. My favorite thing to do in the game was join an online lobby and kill everyone enough that they would start chasing me, then lead them on high speed pursuits all over the city. None of them were ever able to take me out. Fun times.

I haven't played 5 so I can't comment on the comparison.
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>>434795979
>IV was a pioneer of SJW shit in games.
What the fuck are you on about?
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>>434795206
Have you ever seen a real police chase?
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>>434794421
Wow congrats, you drove straight down a road.
Real proud of you son.
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>>434796079
Yeah and they sure as fuck don't plow into the back of cars at full speed, have you ever heard of a pit-maneuver?
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>>434795989
These guys get it. I don't know how to feel about about low-end cars but powerful sports cars are kino to drive in IV
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>>434796192
Thanks, and the best part is that just doing that was 100x more fun than anything I've experienced in V
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>>434796052
>muh immigrant story and gays
>muh american history x wannabe
>muh gay shit

But you see, at the end of the day few even give a shit about their stories and not even you noticed,
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>>434794642
>everyone constantly calling you via phone for dates
I'm on board with shitting on IV but this aspect was blown way out of proportion. You can always reject the calls, and if you want to bond with a character then inviting them for drinks is way more fun and quick. IV has objectively better drunk physics than V
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Post more GTA4 webms. I need reasons to buy that game on PC.
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>>434796364
So basically the fact that there are immigrants and gays makes it "sjw"? Christ you're fucking pathetic. It's much better than shoe-horning some random ass black guy into the story for no other reason but to be "inclusive" and appeal to other blacks. You're dense as fuck mate
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>>434796192
watch the ending you absolutely braindead cunt. turning like that is fucking satisfying because it actually took time to learn and become accustom to, rather than Vs which becomes stale because its completely braindead and requires no skill. and the retarded way the implemented the "PIT maneuver" where a cop lightly taps your rear bumper and your wheels auto-snap to one side to fuck up your driving with no way of mitigating the effects until after it hands you back control
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all I remember from IV was NICO LETS GO BOWLING MY COUSIN
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>>434796557
>please don't criticize my sjw game or i'll cry
lmaoing @ u famalamily
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>>434796412
>buy
the DRM is deprecated and makes installing and getting around it a fucking hassle. i spent two hors trying to get it to work, with various fan patches and even rockstar-recommended command lines. pirated it and it worked instantly
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>>434796661
Look everyone some dindu from twitter figured out what 4chan is!
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>>434796557
It overblownly push muh immigrants narrative all over the story with several characters, the fact the main character one is a White man is just a subversive convinience.
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>>434796778
Well the same can be said about V with the "black man in the hood being put down by the white man" bullshit
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>>434796778
>game portrays immigrants as murderers and recidivists
>REEEE SJWS
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>>434796891
>"black man in the hood being put down by the white man"
Did you even play V?
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>>434796997
Apparently you didn't, Franklin gets bitched at by Lamar and Stretch multiple times for hanging out with Michael and for not "respectin the hood".
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>>434796364
>>434796778
Jesus Christ, V fags really are retarded
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>>434796939
It's a game about crime, in case you didn't noticed.
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>>434796412
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>>434797194
No argument, downboater.
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>all the crowbcucks complaining about the GTAV driving
>none of you are aware that cars are obsolete in GTA:O
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>>434795979
>IV was a pioneer of SJW shit in games
The game literally portrays jews as money-obsessed criminals who try to screw someone over a diamond deal.
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>>434797110
right, so its about the black man keeping the black man down, and the triumph of the black man over the black man to making money

>>434797216
right, so the protagonist isnt portrayed in a positive light, and since hes an immigrant, means they are not portraying immigrants in a positive light. meaning its not promoting SJW ideals in the category of immigration
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>>434797351
Refer to this post >>434797393
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>>434794149
driving in gta iv is the best driving of any gta game
its your fault if you are shit
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>>434794531
>Do you only drive shitty European cars from slavic countries circa 1952?
Nah he probably drives american landbarges that are built on platforms from the 70s, which are half the cars in gta4.
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>>434797425
I think we should just agree that neither games are "SJW" and the guy who brought that up in the first place is a fucking retard
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>>434796364
go back to where you came from faggot
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>>434794421
Is this supposed to be impressive?
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>>434797425
It is a game about crime, you dense motherfucker, they worked with what they had.
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>>434797662
apparently its too difficult for some, otherwise they wouldnt bitch about it so much
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>>434793912
LA cops are instructed to follow only
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>>434797663
so youre saying the simple fact that an immigrant exists in a game means that they are promoting an SJW agenda? how fucking dense and up your own ass can one person be? thats your last (You)
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>>434793912
And San Andreas is better than both :^)
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>>434798017
>entire story is about the black man being oppressed by the police
sjw shit
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>>434797903
You're just backpedalling what I already refuted, better be the last one really.
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>>434797479
lol ok retard
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>>434798127
Not even that guy but the fact that you felt the need to post that just goes to show how dumb V fags are
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>>434798115
It didn't come across like that but I can only imagine what nuRockstar would do if they tried doing the same story today. I can't wait to see what shit they put in RDR2.
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>>434798115
Rockstar has never made a single "sjw" game, stop talking out of your ass
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>>434798127
seriously though. you can easily drift just by using weight transfer. in gtav you need to use the handbrake and once the slide starts thats it, you cant change your line or angle or throttle input without instantly regaining grip.
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>>434798430
SJW just means it has characters that aren't straight white dudes to shitposters. Stop paying attention to retards.
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I want gta 3, 4, 5, san andreas, vice city or liberty city stories on nintendo switch.
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>>434798489
>implying that anon wasn't facetious
you dumb dumb
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>>434798430
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2t-Kx2jPiI
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>>434798489
GTA IV is just more subtle than the over the top garbage out of tranny writers minds that come nowadays, you're just too dumb to get it.
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It's a classic case of style vs substance.
GTA V is interesting at first glance but extremely shallow mechanically when compared to GTA IV.
The only thing it has over IV is more content.
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>>434798779
you have to go back
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>>434798619
Never gonna happen. You're lucky you got LA Noire and I'm still surprised that managed to somehow happen
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>>434794435
b u y v r
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>>434798115
>Police nigger oppresses Ghetto nigger
>SJW shit
There's not even 1 anti-white moment in a game about a nigger from the hood
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>>434794239
cars don't handle like boats irl anon
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>>434799943
They also don't turn on a dime at 90 mph
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>>434800160
You cant even go 90 mph in IV
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>>434800357
I was talking about V dumbass
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>>434793912
Only game with actually good cop car AI was NFS MW prove me wrong
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>>434793912
No GTA5 in list.
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>>434793912
It's a shame 4 runs like shit on my mid-low tier pc
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>>434798619
>Switch port beggars
Shoo shoo! Away with you.
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>>434801568
This list is surprisingly non shit. Did /v/ even make this?
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>>434794032
Ease up? GTAV's police literally cheats. you can't outrun them, you HAVE to hide, regardless of star level.
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Why is GTAV so unironically soulless?
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>>434801568
>no counter-strike titles
>no quake titles
>no team fortress titles
plebs
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>GTA IV's driving is bad because I can't take a 90 deg corner at 250kph
Just fucking GIT GOOD
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>>434793912
>>434794421
>cars drive like 10 ton boats
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>>434802446
>online shit
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>>434802432
gta5 is more realistic in america
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So they gimped the engine for GTAV because they couldnt fit all the shit into it due to being made for xbox 360, but RDR2 being made for ps4 means all the cool bits from GTAIV are back?
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>>434802331
It's set in LA
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>>434802913
GTA4 was also on 360 remember? The physics in GTA4 and RDR are objectively superior to GTAV.
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>>434803094
But that's what I mean. The size/scope of GTA V was 10x larger than IV, so they had to cut corners somewhere to have it all fit in the engine running.
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>>434793912
>said literally everybody who ever played IV
This thread is pointless since nobody would honestly disagree.
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>>434800410
And i was shitting on IV Retard
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>people unironically defending the driving in IV

The cars handle like bags of fucking potatoes on an ice skating rink. It makes the game an absolute slog. The cars rock like they're built on the chassis of a see saw, they slide like the tyres are made from banana peels, they turn like a fucking jumbo jet, they break like they're made of paper and they accelerate like lawnmowers.

Niko himself handled like a soggy sack of shit too, travelling in wide arcs with his dumb jog. He did interact with people and objects better though.
The cops, vehicle damage and NPC physics are much much better too.
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>>434803285
LEARN TO BRAKE

And stop criticize GTA4's driving in a vacuum. We're comparing it to GTA5 which is literally racer toy tier of instant accelerations and decelerations.
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>>434802263
Are we reading the same list?
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>>434793912
a lot of concessions had to be made in gtav for it to be on last gen consoles
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>>434793912
>car physics = better gameplay
har har yeah ok
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>>434803353
>implying the brakes don't slow you down about as effectively as a cocktail umbrella held out the window
I suppose there's always following the speed limit.

There's an argument to be made that 5 is TOO easy to handle, but surely it must be aknowledged that 4's handling is retarded
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>>434802446
TF2 is right there retard
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>>434793912
Mhm.
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>>434803353
I fucking hate IV fan's, Worst in the series, Your favourite game is a glorified tech demo, And i bet you lean left, Cunt
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>>434803561
>>implying the brakes don't slow you down about as effectively as a cocktail umbrella held out the window
Yes that's how braking works. You're not supposed to go from 100 to 0 in two seconds like GTA5.
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>tfw modding fixes all of this
4 was better though, but at least you can fix the gameplay
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>>434794421
>new York city
>streets are empty
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>>434803694
You ever driven a car?
If so, you need to get your brakes replaced right fucking now, I'm worried for your safety
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>>434803930
That's Liberty City, retard. Also
>shit-coloured eyes
Get that mutt out of here.
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>>434803942
Every car in GTAV controls like an electric car.
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>>434801568
Fuck why did you have to show me this again
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>>434803624
Holy shit, imagine being this ass-blasted that people have a different opinion then you.
>And i bet you lean left, Cunt
The funny part is that your acting like a little baby, just like most leftist little shits
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>>434803775
Modding doesn't fix shit, the euphoria mod isn't even close to as good as IV, Red Dead, or MP3 physics
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>>434801568
holy fuck /v/ is actually filled with nintendofags
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>>434804290
I was surprised that the top 10 list wasn't infected with more overrated Nintendo shit. But it seems to have a nice balance of games.
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>>434798121
>refuted
being a retarded faggot isn't refutation
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>>434803930
It is beautiful though
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>>434796761
Alright, I'm downloading a torrent as we speak. Going to be comfy going back to Liberty City.
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>>434801568
>cuphead higher than halo
roflmao
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>>434804964
>This thread successfully got someone to reinstall one of the greatest games of all time
You won't be disappointed anon
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Everyone know that, well, at least anyone with a taste.
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>>434793912
This webm shows that the physics in GTA4 are just more fun to play with. Everything is sterile and locked down in GTA5. Even if you can do insane shit, it's like doing insane shit in Just Cause. It feels like shit because the physics aren't there to make it feel satisfying.
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>>434805090
Actually he might. The game takes a dive during the middle.

That cargo ship mission was neat though.
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>>434805198
Nah the whole game is great
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Daily reminder that faggots who whines about "fun over realism" are the same peoples who whine about gta 4 driving beaing non-realistic
You guys only want realism when it makes game easier, lol.
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>>434793912
Both games are shit and killed off the GTA series from what it once was. Who cares which of the two turds is slightly more appealing?
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>>434793912
>playing a game based on where you live
Damn that's comfy.
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>>434793912
GTA5 was such a fucking chore to play through, what the fuck. All that padding bullshit, tow this shit, now tow that shit, move these containers, now move this crane, drive here, drive there, steal this truck, now lose the police, steal that truck and lose the police, steal a slow ass fucking sub and snail your way to the drop off spot, rinse repeat for the majority of the game's missions.
it's all so fucking tedious, jesus fucking christ
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I honestly preferred gta3/VC cops. You hit that 5-star and they get Arcade racer-tier slingshots and just go for damage.
>small bump in front of the onward cars
>suddenly aerial battering ram.
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>>434798115
Jesus Christ man, stop. You’re making the rest of us look bad. I’m trying to lurk a comfy IV thread.
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>>434793912

driving in gta iv sucks
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>>434794642
>Only the two addons actually gave us a decent story and decent main characters
Johnny was a fucking brainlet, I'm glad he got his hollow skull caved in by crazy.
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>>434793912
Perhaps, but that's like saying getting ass raped in jail by a man with a small cock is better than getting ass raped by a fat hairy arab with a horse cock.
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>>434805198
More like it ends before it even starts to pick up.
>first half of the game is essentially endless tutorial missions exploring some gimmick mechanic you will never use
>latter half is just shooting generic gangsters with terrible broken combat mechanics
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>>434805809
Now you know how most of us old GTA fans felt when we first played IV. It's like they set out to make a game as boring as possible to play.
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Anyone that has driven a car knows gta4 driving physics are complete shit

It's collision physics are good though.
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>>434807857
Cocks are fun
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>>434793912
The real question is was Michelle or Kate the better girl?
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>>434809090
Probably Kate considering Michelle (Karen) was CIA
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>>434802432
Should be a mix of both tbqh senpai.
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Is this game playable with manual aim?
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>>434802691
Good excuse for shit ai
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Driving was never realistic in GTA games and throwing in realistic driving was a mistake
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>>434793912
The Ballad of Gay Tony is better than GTA IV
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>>434793912
Police may be better in GTA4, but good god, the driving in GTA4 is unbelievably bad.

The cars handle like the wheels are completely worn down and driving on smooth surface covered in oil.

An entire city of abysmally maintained cars and buttery smooth roads just doesn't cut it.
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>>434793912
I definitely dont miss my car exploding after only 5 bullets to the trunk lid.
Cars in V can go for almost forever unless you jam a wheel or take a bullet to the gas tank.
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>>434794758
kek
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>>434809242
She was a big girl
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>>434796079
you can clearly see the cop tries a pit-maneuver in GTA IV
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>>434794607
best strat is to outrun the one behind you. slow right down and as soon as you see one spawn in front of you turn into a hiding spot.

dumb as fuck
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>>434801568
>mario shit
>zelda shit
>pokemon shit
>weeb shit
>skyrim and oblivion

What a pile of shit
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>>434793912
LA vs NYC cops
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>>434794421
hahah that looks so retarded, have you retards never drove a fucking car in your life?
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Although it's not
IV aged like fucking milk
I remember liking the game a lot when it released
Tried to play it again roughly a month ago, jesus christ it feels so fucking clunky, it looked like ass and it was boring as shit.
Just because it has more gimmicks than V doesn't make it better. Even your own .webm shows IV in a negative light. Every single car in that game has busted suspension, fuck you dumb neet faggots who don't even own a car.

Not saying that V isn't boring as shit on singleplayer but the Online play is what saves the game.
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>>434794421
oh nice I made this webm thank you for saving it anon
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>>434811918
you forgot the infinitely overrated souls shit
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>>434794721
The fucking camrea drove me mad. You're looking at your character and car SLIGHTLY from he left, it kicks my OCD so fucking bad, I can't play the game at all. It's constantly misaligned and it hurts my brains.
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>>434814238
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>>434793912
Nah, Gta V is far better.
I love the way things look, it doesn't look a meshy shithole like gta IV.
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>>434793912
Yes, the driving, cop ai and npcs are way beter in IV. And the drunk mechanics. And the radio.
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>>434814210
>but the Online play is what saves the game.
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people latch on to the physics because there isn't much to do in GTA4 and I say this as someone who put hundreds of hours into the game. The dlc does this better but by that point its nearly gta 5
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>>434794149
Nah
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>>434814991
I know man
It'd be hell of a lot better if I didn't have to wait 15 minutes to get into a race, heist or any other activity.
The freeroam world is mostly empty so you only goof around with fríends and the real meat is in the activities, but the downtime between each activity is so fucking long, it's nothing but a waste of time.
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>>434815104
the dlc was faggot shit. some people like driving so much that driving itself is something to do.
>>434815175
IV’s multiplayer was so much better for people who actually want to play the game.
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Why is that GTA4 is always under the rug?
Barely anyone talks about it its like the black sheep of GTA. Even after it came out people talked about San Andreas rather than this.
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>>434793912
I feel like we've had this thread before...
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>>434815959
It never worked well on PC. Also, most adults can’t fully appreciate black comedy, let alone kids. The creators were in a dark place after being investigated by the FTC for Hot Coffee.
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>>434794421
>cars are irons on the butter
Who the fuck told you this is good physics? This retardness is the worst thing in GTA IV, I will tell you more, this drifting autism is what's killing racing genre for the last 15 fucking years.
Even real life cars are not that wonky, let alone videogames, where it should be arcadier.
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If you actually go back and play GTA4, you'll vomit at how clunky everything feels. In fact I even felt that seven years ago when I replayed it after playing RDR.
The driving, the cover system, the walking/running system. It just feels gross. They didn't know how to make GTA more realistic with decent controls yet. San Andreas and GTA5 both felt better.
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I fuckin hated gta 4
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>>434794721
>>434794924
>>434796192
>>434797662
>>434802553
>>434813943
>>434814686
>>434815104
>>434809569
>>434816280

so.. this... is the power... of GTAV driving...... woah......
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>>434816310
I play it almost everyday and I disagree with everything you just said
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>>434816252
Well I remember you needed a pretty beefy PC back then, also it had that social shit which Rockstar had an barely worked. From what I have heard it had a more adult-ish theme, unlike the loose fun what San Andreas gave you.
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>>434816380
When you play it every day, you get used to its shit factor of course. I got used to it back then too. I replay Rockstar games after many years, and GTA4 feels the absolute worst to go back to.
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>>434793912
Hi crowbcat, when are you going back to shilling VR?
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>>434794642
>City being empty as fuck
What is population density
What is probably one of the singularly most detailed rockstar maps on the RAGE engine?
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>>434816447
I didn't get used to anything, I just play it because I think it's better than other GTAs. I also still play GTA V and Red Dead, along with older GTAs a lot but I always go back to IV because I have more fun with it. So stop acting like your dumbass opinion is a fact
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An underrated aspect of IV is the missions. Most of them are very fun and the shooting is satisfying. I loved going up apartment floors, shooting my way up.
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GTA IV blows V away with the physics and many other things. The fist fighting is leaps and bounds better in IV. Loved going into the hood, walking up to a crowd of thugs and just start shoving them. Made for some fun 5 on 1 fights.
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And since none of you zoomers have played any GTA pre-V, this is how San Andreas handled. Seems IV was a lot more faithful than GTAV's literal babby tier driving mechanics.
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>>434816657
>drive drive, walk walk, shoot shoot
>fun
IV missions are boring, just like V's
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>>434816623
The driving is subjective, I'll give you that, which is admittedly the thread's topic. The cover and walking/running system being worse is actual fact, however. It's like preferring up on the d-pad for jump in platformers. There's no opinion there, it's just shittier.
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GTA IV fans won in the end. After a decade of unbelievers throwing shit at that game the common consensus has finally come it its senses.

It's better than San Andreas too. Pure KINO.
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All the cars in IV handled like a boat, felt like the suspension was leafsprings from the 1960s, and the breaks were as effective as a piece of wet cardboard. Yes, a ordinary junker might feel a bit unstable or clunky but they fucked up when their high-end cars felt the same as a fucking horse pulled wagon.
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>>434794149
ur gargabe faget
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>>434816793
This has to be modded, i don't remember it playing like this
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>>434816357
Why did you even bother making this webm? You're driving in a straight line in a Pariah
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>>434793912
Granny is better than mum
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/v/ once again proving it's utterly retarded

Here's the most objective criticism batch of criticism you can give to each game


IV:
GFWL
Severe lack of basegame customization
Severe optimization issues
Almost unplayable on PC without tinkering
More of what you can see, less of what you use

V:
Driving feels like I'm playing something meant for mental retards. Even old pimp-boats accelerate like a ferrari.
Gunplay is like aforementioned. Feels incredibly dumbed down and the enemies seem to be spongy as shit to compensate for that. Despite there being a variety of weapons, they all lack any real difference.
Content seems to be like a cardboard cutout of what it could be. There's so much stuff but none of it fufills a feeling what you'd get from something like SA (The difference between a cropduster and a dodo, or a sanchez to a PCJ)

IV just mechanically has good foundations, but network and playability wise just doesn't hold out today.

V is causalized to shit, but even with horrid waiting times, it's solid sixty frames, streamlined gameplay it can't really fall flat on it's feet, not to mention it isn't on any third party bullshit beyond it's native launcher so there is no tinkering or bullshit.

While I wish V carried on the level of difficulty and authenticity which IV provided, I'm grateful it doesn't play like a laggy hunk of shit.
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>>434817306
>literally never played GTA pre-V and thinks he knows what vanilla SA is like
fuck off zoomer go grind GTAO crates
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>>434817725
Oops, seems like I caught a bit of that 'tardation.
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>>434816793
How is that in any way closer to IV than V
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V's driving is easier and cops are far more retarded. Evidentely this empeded their mythical "fun" in IV because as we all know Vfags all as one have cerebral paralysis.
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>>434817749
why are you projecting so hard you dumb nigger?
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>>434793912
both are fucking shit
you fags only talk about them because they were your first GTAs because you're some faggy millennial
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High IQ = GTA IV
Low IQ = GTA V


That's all there is to it.
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>>434817919
Played from 3 to 5 here and I can personally say you're just an autist.
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>>434817981
>Didn't play GTA 1, 2 or London
>Thinks his opinion matters
Just another screeching zoomer retard
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>>434816817
It’s a fucking driving and shooting game. Do you think missions are only fun if they have some ridiculous gimmick? I never understand this complaint. What’s wrong with having missions with a lot of driving and shooting? It’s the core gameplay.
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>>434817725
>IV
>difficult

>GTA
>ever not casual shit
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>>434817919
Played 2 on ps1 and all the rest on pc and i'm millenial 23yo boomer, where's your god now?
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>>434817973
Pretty much
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The PS2 GTAs have absolute shit gameplay and IV and V are both way more fun.
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I love the driving in 2 the most, mostly because of multiplayer.
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>>434818123
Comparing apples to oranges at that point. Of course there's going to be differences when you comparing a top-down arcade game to a 3D render.

>>434818143
When did I ever imply V wasn't causalized shit?
Difficult for a run of the mill player. See what game would likely have the player have difficulties shooting/driving.
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>>434818306
>The PS2 GTAs have absolute shit gameplay
The best gameplay rockstar have ever achieved, kid. Call it shit but everything since then has been far worse.
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>>434818427
Eh, it's pretty janky these days senpai.
Nostagic, fun yes. But not the best by a longshot.
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>>434818410
It's history kid. If you haven't played GTA 1 then you haven't played San Andreas, Vice City, GTA IV etc. No many how many hours you've sat with that game in front of you. You saw it happening, but you lack the context to comprehend.
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>>434818410
Neither. Driving in GTA IV and V are piss easy, even for casuals.
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>>434818497
Good god that writing.
Are you straight from reddit?
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>>434818537
Nigger how much of "V is causalized shit" do you have to read to get the gist that I agree with you on that part? Christ I swear this board is home to the kids who spent school in downie class.
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>>434818547
It's reddit to think you can have a valid opinion on modern GTA without understanding the franchise. That's your REDDIT tier memelennial ARROGANCE. You don't care about GTA only in how GTA pertains to you. ZOOMER NARCISSISM. GTA to you is only a background to take your SELFIE.
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>>434818660
No no, I got you wrong.
The capitalization, more like twitter.
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>>434818720
That's high level authentic /v/, kid. Watch yourself.
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>>434818427
The controls are fucking ass and most of the missions are boring. Going back and trying to play them sucks.
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>>434818974
>The controls are fucking ass
The controls are kino. Remeber that MORE control is not BETTER control.
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>>434794149
driving in GTA IV is part of the fun, getting these funny ass police chases where everyone's drifting and barely in control
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I like the driving in IV.. Yeah it’s too slippery but so what. It’s still fun to control after you get the hang of it. Some of the bikes like the freeway and zombie control awesomely
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Everyone says driving in V is too easy but it’s even easier and more boring in SA.
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>>434819289
2004 vs 2013
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>GTAIV came out 10 years ago
>GTAV came out 5 years ago
>no GTAVI in sight
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GTA IV's map is actually smaller than San Andreas'. Without the realistic driving it would have been even more noticeable how small it is.

In GTA V the realistic driving would completely ruin the bay area as its filled with sport cars and you would die from almost every crash.

Why do you brainlets can get this? It's two different game, accept it
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>>434794421
The camera angle is the real crime, the driving just takes getting used to. I played with hood cam 90% of the time.
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>>434794843
Ok and what about taxis and minivans doing the exact same thing?
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>>434820116
>and you would die from almost every crash
no, YOU would die from every crash because you're shit at games and need handholding mechanics. the rest of us would appreciate the more enjoyable gameplay.
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>>434793912
Is it worth getting IV on PC or is the social club fuckery or whatever it is really bad?
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>>434798619
this was a shit game, your car over heated if u drove to fast
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>>434794642
>Nico Bellic is a trash character and so is his story.

Are mutts the most retard people on earth?
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>>434793912
>Caring about either game
I might have bothered with V if IV wasn't ass.
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>>434809090
Neither. Black cop lady you can date online is best girl.
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>>434802272
>>434794607
>SP only players
Play GTAO.
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>>434820512
dude wank yourself elsewhere no one cares
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>>434798658
>fighting against authority and corporations is now sjw
I want to go back
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>>434820985
anything that isnt BASED CAPITALISM POLICEBOOT UP MY ASS is sjw acording to nupol
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>>434793912
Looking forward to the shitstorm when "Red Dead Redemption is better than Red Dead Redemption 2" comes out next month.
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I replayed GTA IV this year for its 10th anniversary. While the stuff that always impressed me about the game such as the physics and incredible detail of the world managed to still be impressive even now, I came to the realization that GTA mission design is just bad. It's an open world game but the objectives are so fucking narrow and it makes almost no use of the sandbox outside of the free roam fucking around. You get punished for doing anything other than following the line.

They're fun games but the best part has always been just messing around rather than playing the actual content.
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>>434821048
>>434820985
fucking leftypol shills
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrwOIjq2tRQ
I like it better when they make the character sound derange.
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man I haven't played GTAIV in years, is it possible to make the PC port playable?
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>>434822223
My solution for inconsistent performance was to cap it at 30fps and play with a controller. This also allowed me to play at 4k so at least it looked sharp.
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>>434820985
>
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>>434822451
I don't understand the communist with capitalist.
Is it commie SJWs and Google?
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>>434820985
but the extreme left is the one who is authoritarian and race-obssessed
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>>434822646
its liberals and big buisness
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>>434822767
no you fucking centrist
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>>434801568
>No Rance
>only new released games
>Dark Souls
Not my /v/ and probably reddit made that list
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>>434822646
It's hard to point out in left right way but it's a Libertarian siding with a fascist to fight leftists (tankies and commies) and big corporations, the reason these corporations side with commies is because in a free market (libertarian ideal) they would be out of business so they use communists as a way of getting a bigger state that can protect the interests of these corporations with laws since commies always asks for a bigger and more powerful state.
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>>434813943
/o/ here, neither have you auto
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>>434794149
Wrong
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>>434822646
its almost like enabling mental retardation and making the ultimate dumb as fuck NPC is profitable, and contributes towards less resistant and more controllable underclassmen with no consciousness or standards.

Almost like how the video game industry pumps out shitty games hides behind an agenda, and when you point out obvious flaws you are a nazi/incel/virgin/sexist/racist/christian/white/male/literallyhitler/XY-ist.
Almost.
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>>434822451
what is even that axe symbol
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>>434823851
fascism
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>>434796364
>But you see, at the end of the day few even give a shit about their stories and not even you noticed,
thats because V's story is the only one worth putting any interest in
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>>434796557
>It's much better than shoe-horning some random ass black guy into the story for no other reason but to be "inclusive" and appeal to other blacks.
are you talking about Franklin?
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>>434795442
notice all the V fags aint got shit to say here...
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>>434826382
V fag here, yeah its cool that IV let you disarm people, but even when I played that I didn't notice cause I would just kill them
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>>434826563
sure but i noticed. I also noticed shooting people once in the foot was a fatality instead of making them react like in IV. I waited the whole year and a half between the first reveal trailer for V and the release. I could tell something was very wrong with the driving and the shooting from in the first 5 minutes. After my first free roam police chase i knew they'd ruined the fundamentals of the game. I've never re-ordered a game again
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>>434795442
>V
>Neither the player nor the cop lose their weapon being shot
>IV
>The cops can get disarmed by shots, but not the player
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>>434793912
>This is what my favorite youtuber wants me to say, so I will do his bidding.
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>>434794634
Not even semi-realistic, just bad. If anything GTAIV had better shot reactions from NPCs, but the driving was BAD.
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>>434826825
the driving was fun for a lot of us and no less "realistic" than V's just on the other end of the unrealistic scale. Now add in that car damage was better in IV, there was a clear difference in "feel" to diffeent types of vehicles and the police were able to chase the player and not simply rubberband off them and you have a lot of people, like myself, who regard it as the better driving game.
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>>434826960
>lot of us
Don't know what you meant by that, but the driving was major ass. GTA V is much better in that department. Cars don't drive like boats.
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>>434793912
I'm pirating GTA IV right now, what am I in for?
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>>434827206
If you get it to work. Should be alright. Probably frustrating at some points. Ballad of gay Tony has a better story albeit very short
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>>434827117
i mean a lot of us. Enough people to make a thread about it every day it seems, that would imply there are a lot of us who like the driving in IV wouldn't it? V's driving was the blandest experience imaginable. Every car felt the same, the upgrades were pointless, car damage somehow less technically advanced, the police who could magically follow you no matter what speed, pedestrian drivers that deliberately turn into your path (they're literally coded to pull out of traffic FOR NO REASON so you hit them). Do not even get me fucking started on being able to control pitch and yaw in a car during a jump, that shit is beyond retarded, ruined any challenges that jumps held (because before you had to set it up right or HAVE SKILL to make a jump successfully). Just pure midnight club (i.e shite) tier driving for children
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>>434827483
Except people here don't talk about it, maybe you're confusing /v/ with reddit. GTAIV driving was neither fun nor it was realistic, it was just bad.
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>>434795442
But the police mechanics in general in V are handled much better compared to IVs rolling circles, so, yeah...
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>>434827206
timed driving missiles and picking up your cousin
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>>434827634
It was fun with a mouse controlling the camera
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>crowbcat
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>>434793912
>not showing the wanted level
Why are you so obsessed with this shit? You've been posting the same thread every day since 2013.
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>>434827483
>pure midnight club tier
Midnight Club fag here, don't you dare compare GTAV to the greatest arcade racing series in existence. they are nothing alike
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>>434827784
What? No...
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>>434793912
Sure it looks nice but how's the gameplay?
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>>434826960
Always liked IV's driving better, but I still kinda get why they would tone down car damage in V since you could mod your car (and keeping your car in a good state was always a hard task to perform in any gta).
Still I think this was poorly executed, they should've kept damage from IV but when reinforcing your car in the garage should make it more resistant so you don't feel bad about spending money in customisation and completely ruin your car 5min later.
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>>434793912
No shit. IV was better i thought this was common knowledge.
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>>434816817
>drive drive, walk walk, shoot shoot
What did you expect of a fucking GTA game, retard? cooking mama?
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>>434816357
>compares driving in narrow city streets to 2+ lane highways

thanks for proving you're an absolute retard. Couldn't have done it better myself and you saved me all the time of doing so
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>>434820013
They get enough money from whales in GTA online, and they'll make tons more in RDR2 Online
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>Haha Crowbcat you fucking sheep
Okay I don't care about the actual channel or the guy but the videos aren't facetious
>HAHA NEW GAME BAD OLD GAME GOOD AMRITE
Please just address what's being shown in the videos
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>>434828637
what, the cherrypicking?
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>>434793912
>this one very specific aspect of the game is more developed in an earlier entry in the series therefore it's the best

Bet you also fall over yourself proving that Spider-Man 2 was the only decent SP game.
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You serious nigga? The police in V are so poor they can't even keep up with the player unless the game actually cheats for them and gives them ludicrous rubber band speed to catch up with you. You know that when they ram you it isn't the games physics making your car hard to control? THE GAME ACTUALLY FORCES YOUR FRONT WHEELS TO TURN! thats how piss poor the police on this game are. The ai cannot even do a pit maneuver without dicking around with godmode on.

Lets add to this: they don't ever just try and arrest you, they have laser aim, no army, helicopters are replaced THE LITERAL SECOND you shoot the last one down, making shooting them pointless.

Police in V suck ass and you are a child for thinking they are fun
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>>434817834
it's not. he's a dumbass

>>434816793
the only cars that handled like that in GTA:SA were a select few RWD (the sabre and such). the one you posted (bullet, if im not mistaken) was a special case that handled different than most RWD and it's miles away from being anywhere close to crappy GTA IV boat-swaying type driving. If anything, it's the the single most GTA:v-like RWD car out of the bunch. you're either blind or just never played gta:sa
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>>434828958
Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that it has the best seeking AI that exposes more options to the player to avoid them.
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>>434793912
This is true, and also why I think RDR will be better than RDR2.
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>>434829147
Fuck your fish AI you aspie
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>>434816793
notice how you're going ROCKET SPEED in a fucking hyper car here
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>>434828925
>very specific aspect of the game
>game about driving cars and shooting people
>driving and shooting were better in earlier entry but that doesn't mean the game is better
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>>434829223
you mad?
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>>434829147
doesn't feel like it. You know there are no police actually patrolling LS? You get a wanted level and they just spawn in nearby (in convenient locations so you can "avoid" their super duper ai). Games bullshit and you are mental midget
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>>434811918
nice taste dude, you must play really good video games
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>>434829361
>doesn't feel like it.
Yeah, because you don't know what you're doing.
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>>434829398
seem to know a lot more about V's police and driving than you do though don't I? You haven't brought up a single detail or point that proves its better, you just seem to think we'll take your retarded word for it. Keep trying i'm enjoying blowing the fuck outta you every post
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>>434828583
Yeah, I know. GTAVI, if it ever comes out, will be online only, with fuckton of microtransactions and perhaps a battle royale mode.
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>>434829398
It's shit jim, GTA:O police sucks and was a step backwards
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>punch as many cabs I can see and watch the legion of angry taxi drivers chasing me
Shit was funny when they would hit each other and it would turn into a giant brawl
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>>434802331
>4 actually looked better
>those shitty reflections on the 5 taxi
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>>434829690
>eyy Ihm wahkin' here
>eyy Ihm wahkin' here
>eyy Ihm wahkin' here
>eyy Ihm wahkin' here
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>>434829314
>duplicate image exists
>>>434829223
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>>434820554
It’s not that bad
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>>434793912
>GTA V is better than GTA VI
>GTA VI is better than GVII
Rinse and fucking repeat, none of this matters why waste your time??
Same shit with Pokemon, you people are brian dead
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>>434821409
Personally I think it’s fine if the missions are linear. I mean not everything in an open world game has to be complex. Sometimes I just like going through an area and shooting. Also I think IV actually does give an impressive amount of options. For instance after the interview you can just jump out the window instead of going down the building
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>>434804843
brown isn't beautiful, gta 4 sucks and being better than another shit game doesn't change that.
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Why does everyone say the PC version is unplayable? I just got it and it seems to be working great, definitely better frames and performance than on 360. The aiming feels sticky with a mouse and keyboard so I’m using a DS4 and I’m having a lot of fun. What’s wrong with the PC version that everyone hates so much?
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>>434830650
It aint great as san andreas, still good at driving, physics and sandboxing autism. Ye its a bit boring, not as much as V tho
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>>434829621
No you don't
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>>434829621
And I already said, the police mechanics in 4 is just avoiding roaming circles, whereas V has a bunch of other stuff like how they go to the scene of the crime first and how cover is actually viable and so on.
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>>434831330
u got dicked fggt. admit it and we might even treat you with a little respect in the future
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>>434831485
cover is viable in IV you halfwit. Avoiding the police is V is just avoiding a lot of smaller roaming circles centered around individual cars, which as i have pointed out, literally appear out of thin air on the map when you are reported to the police
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I miss the swing that would send you flying, did it ever get patched?
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Everyone says it’s boring where the missions are just shooting, but even in SA the best missions were the more traditional shooting ones like black project. And in gay tony one of the most fun missions was Chinese takeout. Shooting missions are the best even if they’re more generic
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>>434831620
No it isn't, police are alerted as soon as you enter their radius. There's more human logic to how the police act in V which gives the player more to fuck with
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>>434831620
I kept hearing talk of this 'roaming circle' and thats when i realized that you fags have the minimap enabled
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>>434831763
No, everyone hated that EVERY mission was just drive there and shoot/steal/ram that then come back for epic cutscene where we go bowling
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>>434831896
so basically despite all the massive gaping flaws i just pointed out V is better because you can hide?
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>>434820895
>tryharding in gta

get a load of this queer
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>>434832017
Sounds more like confirmation bias.
V isn't perfect, and they're are some things 4 does better, mostly in the graphical spectical, but both are good games and V has the best cop prowler AI
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>>434827117
gta v is intentionally arcadey
gta iv was more "realistic"

really not hard to get.
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>>434832157
Sounds like i did the reaseach and know what i'm talking about. Maybe V does have good cop prowler ai but that doesn't matter much when it has the worst cop ai in every single other sense....
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>>434793912
GTA IV was a total mediocrity since the day it was released. It's a sequel which removed half the content and mechanics from the last 5 games.
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>>434832283
What other sense? Yes you can shoot guns out of hands in 4, but the improvements in V make up for that. Don't forget V has a much bigger on foot arsenal, too
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>>434832405
all the guns in V shoot like airsoft and are pin point accurate anyway. The size of the foot arsenal is pointless when the game has COD shooting and unresponsive enemies. There is literally no difference shooting somebody with the desert eagle and the saturday night special, they always react the same.

In terms of ai Iv cops will chase you down and try and apprehend you without shooting you UNLESS YOU PULL A GUN ON THEM OR TRY TO RUN THEM OVER V's will just shoot you. IV's also try to block your car in and do pit maneuvers whilst V's require the game to literally cheat to they can rear end you which as i have told you does not cause your car to spin because of the physics, but because the game turns your wheels hard in a direction, the only reason such a janky bullshit mechanic is in the game is because the ai is too poor to chase the player properly. IV's cops would also attempt to arrest the ai if the situation required it, V's just kill them. IV they would take cover and attempt to box you in in gunfights, they even try to flank you regularly if you pay attention. V's just run right at you shooting. Pure shite
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>>434794869
>Otherwise he is pretty on par with the other two shitheads
Fucking no Nico is the best written character Rockstar has ever created.





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