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What strategy games do you play?
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that one, ck2 and civ series
my brain is too slow for rts
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>>434813247
CK2
Total War
Dominions
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Ck2
Medieval 2 TW
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CK2
Warcraft 3
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>>434815264
bless you for that, anon
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>>434816058
I don't play rts or strategy games often, but I've found myself replaying this game a few times throughout my life since childhood. It may be nostalgia talking, but I still LEGO Starcraft.
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im unstoppable
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>>434813247
Mostly Total War these days but played pretty much everything at one point or another.

>>434813843
>dominions
God bless, love that series. Haven't gotten around to playing 5 though.
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>>434816745

I love HRE so much. Currently doing France -> Revoke Privilegia.
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>>434813247
eu4
ATTILA
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civ 5 and 6
total war warhammer
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>>434816978
france into emperor of HRE is fun but also so broken that it should be illegal
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GoI4 and V2
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>>434816745
>Holy
>Roman
>Empire
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Doing an Animal Kingdom run right now. Also the AI partitioned Bengal in a very aesthetic manner.
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>>434816745
How did you become electore?
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>>434819449
Jesus Christ, what a terrible-looking mod. You must be barely able to draw stick figures with that visual taste.
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>>434819630
inherited the throne of bohemia, they start with no king so you can easily get a Hapsburg at their throne and then contest it within 2 years of start
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The problem with EU4 is that once you get big, there is nothing really to destroy your empire like ck2 can do
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>Map painters
>stratergy
hohoho i am laffin
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>>434820113
EU3 had strategy elements in it.

EU4, on the other hand, is basically a mana meter manager.
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>>434820049
The main problem with EU4 is that it tries to be a numbers game when there are still a lot of random elements
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I like to occasionally play Vicky 2.
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>>434815264
Based Boomer
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>>434820295
I started playing v2 a week ago how did you get literacy so high as russia?
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HOLY FURY WHEN I AM LOSING MY FUCKING MIND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>434820295
>play as China long ago
>only rebels are Angry Rioters
>whole 5 million of them
>they have 3 generals
Were you ever so angry you became a commander?
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>>434820113
>>434820181
>>434820243
>pdx literally said imperator was gonna be a map painter, mana spender
they actually used these words
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Homm3 and Blood Bowl 2
The only RTS I ever enjoyed was Multiwinia, but it's dead
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>>434816745
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>>434820469
All NFs on raising intellectual pops to 4% starting with the most populous states and working down and prioritising the cultural techs that give bonuses to education efficiency and additional NFs. It takes a long time to pay dividends but by the late game it pays off and you can drown the global market with your manufactured goods.
The downside is that you have to completely ignore a lot of techs that you wouldn't in other nations, making war and finances in the early and mid game much more difficult.
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>>434820730
I'm shit at it but BB2 is pretty fun
Necromantic best team
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>>434820756
Oh, and using high militancy to get the liberals in the upper house to pass education reforms. That helps a lot.
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>>434820469
I made fucking Ottomans into 95% by 1900.
All you need to do is get that tech and investment and attract Clergy.
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blobbing is so fucking boring, but finally did the form Rome achievement.
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In the past few months Endless Space 2 and Total War Warhammer 2.
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I'd play WC3 and AOE2 if my friends weren't gay
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>>434820917
That is why Vicky 2 is so much more interesting when you up that rebel power through mods.
Less World Wars and more division and Fascist Switzerland.
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>moving blocks around
>strategy
at least play Stronghold or AoE
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>>434820917
>didn't even take all coastal provinces
sad
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>>434821365
That's a work in progress
Just wanted to show the faction I was doing it as
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>>434820917
I can't do it. I've never been able to do it. The issue is that I get to France or Spain and to gain the warscore to take the prov you need to then go over to their colonies and beat them.

Don't think I'm ever gonna do it without cheating.
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CK2
TW: Attila
Stainless Steel
Broken Crescent
Europa Barbarorum

Can't wait for Imperator: Rome
I'll NEVER EVER buy Rome 2
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I hate EUIV because you can't really play the fun small nations because you're always near some fucker that'll come and spoil your fun. I tried to play as Georgia, I did really well until have a fucking guess who came around? If you don't play as Byzantium or something, you can't remove them and the threat they pose.
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Last week i re-played coh1 campaigns.
I am still amazed how good they are, both coh2 campaigns are hot garbage, especially the ardennes.
Coh1 had kind of a pseudo documentary style, and while there were some characters they were not really important.

Coh2 however decided to include some retarded cliche plot for whatever reason. And then the DLC campaign is just a set of random skirmishes on multiplayer maps with a few scripted missions here and there, that's just lazy. And yet again they dropped the pseudo documentary and replaced it with... nothing. Just some commanders talking boring shit about their hard lives or something and cutscenes that mimic american propaganda tv reports of that time. Wtf relic.
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>>434821768
I never had an issue with Rome 2, it was great fun. Last DLC I spent getting an archer unit up to 100 range DMG. Not as good as it seems.
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>>434821675
Imperialism CB, absolutism, admin efficiency and diplomatic (reduced warscore cost for provinces) +influence (reduced AE) ideas are your friends.

You don't need more than 2-3 military idea groups because you can just siege down their forts super quick while they slowly siege your vassals/allies.
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>>434821941
Don't think I have the energy or desire to do it again. I hate fighting the Ottomans. So boring. So not fair.
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>>434822196
How to kill Ottomans as any faction you play
Ottomans could use a buff desu. They're way too easy to blob into at the start.
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>>434822309
>Ottomans could use a buff
this
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>>434822458
The AI is so laughably easy and just can't deal with not having access to Bosphorus. They made the strait change just because of it.

Retards shit at naval for being useless but they don't know how to use fleets properly. Right now any faction in the mediterean that can build up about 30 galleys at the start can blob into Turkey ez pz.
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Age of Wonders 3 is probably my favorite.

I also enjoy
>Endless Space 2
>Masters of Orion 2
>War for the Overworld and Dungeons 3
>Startopia
>Rimworld
>Chaos Reborn
>Stellaris
>Total War Warhammer 2
>Sins of a Solar Empire
>Ghost Master
>Invisible Inc.
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>>434820661
Oh well, here goes my anticipation
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My friend really wants me to play CK2 and HOI4 with him but I don't like them that much. I find them too difficult, especially when he's going through the game at a bajillion miles an hour and I can't keep up with it
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>>434817514

Yeah it becomes so overpowered so fast. Got lucky with Burgundy exploding and inherited it 100% due to being emperor and France.
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>>434825837
>he let the eternal spaniards get Navarra
you fucked up
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>>434823532
I thought that AoE3 is rather shitty in vanilla.
But after all those updates it's actually a interesting game with quite (now) different classes.
Cutting down tier3 spam made me actually use other units and use strategies/synergies.
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>>434813247
I hate that clausewitz engine, so I stick to older paradox titles.
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>>434826054

Basque terrorist detected.
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i dont play games
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>>434826391
You can pick up Navarra super easy now
>influence, gift, marriage, alliance, instant vassal
>gets annexed into a state you already own
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>>434816745
>that wallachia
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>>434820630
I wonder if they'll show the release date in the dev diary tomorrow. The teasers of the official twitter this week have just shown more different bloodlines.
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>>434816745
>Leave HRE
Why is that sound so familiar?
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>>434820917
God I wish that were me
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Whats the best GS to play for someone who's never played one before and just wants to make meme blobs as fast as possible?
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>>434826727
Oh gee.
Can't wait to defend m'lady and tip fedoras all day.
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>>434825837
So many castles. Mothball or destroy it. PLEASE
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>>434827041
Any EU game. They are blobtastic.
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>>434826910
You gave me a new goal in EU4 anon, time to join HRE, form great britain and then leave the hre
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>>434826591

True, but I always run out of states because HRE emperorship now actually forces you into duchy which means less states. I don't state Vasconia usually at all.
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>>434827041
EU4
The second game of it I ever played I picked Austria, formed personal unions with Bohemia, Hungary and Poland within 50 years, and unified the Holy Roman Empire before 1700
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>>434827041
While not as fun as eu4, hoi4 is the one where it's the fastest and easiest.
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>>434827146
>>434827250
>>434827551
Thanks lads
I'll take a look at EU4
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I want EU but smaller scipe (only Europe and a bit of middle east) and with realtime combat
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>>434828271
>Those roads
Vile.
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Total War: Napoleon
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What kinds of strategy games would you anons recommend for a console peasant like me?
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>>434821903
Post-patches R2 is great and it has suprisingly good dlcs. It's no Attila, but it's great fun, esp. with some mods here and there to boost AI habits
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>>434827071
You know not all bloodlines are going to be like that right?
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eu4 and before that eu3
currently playing brandenburg
got emperor early and am about to consume the hre burgandy lands, somehow they didn't get inherited
also I may be able to get my dynasty on the throne of France
still havent gotten those OP national ideas to kick in though so the war is a challenge
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I fucking LOVE grand strategy games.

However after actually getting a career it's become straight impossible to play these anymore since you want to play them in large 10+ hour sittings which I just don't have time for anymore. So now I'm stuck posting about them on image boards instead.
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How are you supposed to defeat the Soviet Union as a minor power?
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>>434813247
CK2 and Total Warhammer
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Im waiting for that roman game, eventho its just an eu4 reskin
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>>434830364
Dude just do an all-nighter once a week (preferably before a day off), it won't be that much of a struggle and you'll enjoy it
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>>434830448
By playing a better strategy game.
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>>434830448
make 20 width divisions and draw a line till moscow
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>>434830541
i had forgotten about that
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Victoria 2, now THAT was strategy
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>>434830541
they're using mana again?
when is paradox getting competition, this shit is not acceptable.
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I've been wanting to get into grand strategy for a while now, what are some good games to start with?
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>>434830649
gonna pirate this one, its going to be pretty casual without tons of dlcs anyway

>>434830656
well desu the first game was a mana sim too
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>>434830541
>map extends to India
are we doing this again
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>>434830664
Start with EU4.
If you want roleplaying play CK2, if you want more "strategy " play Vicky 2.
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I picked up shogun 2 and ashes of the singularity recently, been having a blast with shogun. Havent had a chance to play much ashes yet. Huge fan of rts just waiting for the next big thing
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>>434830589
t. Poland
>>434830612
Combat width still confuses me. Is there a good way of increasing it other than throwing more men into your templates? I always run out of manpower.
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How the fuck do I into Byzantium anymore?

I just want to remove kebab and fuck bitches In Constantinople
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downloaded civ IV last week and played for a while. Not bad. I used to be big into playing command and conquer tib sun over dialup internet.
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I can't be the only one that just constantly masturbates to his Crusader 2 campaign right?

It has gotten so bad that I can't even play the game without getting horny anymore.
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>>434830664
start with eu4, don't bother with /gsg/ on /vg/
play big countries with specific goals in mind - colonize new world, reform hre, destroy hre, kill turkey, form Russia, form Japan, and so on
you may want to watch somone play to get a feeling for what you should be doing, I'm not going to recommend anyone in specific because they're all obnoxious faggots, just pick the one you don't hate when they talk
tab to the wiki when you don't understand a mechanic, most of the game is understanding mechanics and abusing them
remember that mana is your most valuable resource and is worth more then anything else in the game
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>>434831127
Go do your homework instead of shitposting on the internet, anon.
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>>434831198
How the fuck do u use mana in a grand strategy game with no magic
T. Doesnt play grand strategery
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QUICK,

Post your favorite/most terrifying games
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>>434813247
Waiting for Holy Fury to get back into CK2. Come the fuck out already holy shit.
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>>434831557
mana is but a pejorative word for casualized gameplay elements like administrative power or base tax
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>>434831557
'mana' is casual name for monarch power,
because it works like mana in that it accumulates and can be used instantly on demand for various things
it's your currency for a very wide range of actions, and unlike other resources in the game it doesn't scale with the size of your state, this means that you want to leverage other resources into mana whenever possible
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>>434831642
I didn't save any better screenshot from it.
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>>434831642

Voltaire absolutely destroyed
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>>434832037
>>434831920
Sounds neat
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>>434832242

t. Wiz
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>>434832723
Wiz is too busy trying to figure out if stellaris is even a video game right now
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>>434813247
As I'm writing this EARTH 2150: Lost Souls
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Been playing Mental Omega.
Shit's kinda hard.
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So what will be your first Holy Fury playthrough?
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>>434828271
>that filename
You had one job
and you did it well
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Do you like the new Poland update?
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>>434833941
Why these graphics gives me a boner...
And I'm not even into RTSses
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>>434813247
I like to play Star Wars: Empire at War, and also the Total War games.
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>>434835171
>start as lithuania
>get mission to PU poland and PU mosocy/russia
>form comonwealth
>get mission to PU hungary
I also got france in a "normal" PU somewhere in there
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>>434834980
Making Zunism greater than ever
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>>434832093
>communism gets production efficiency
Fucking Paradox
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>>434815264
anyone remember that lego mars flash rts?
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New teaser for tomorrows dev diary
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>>434836120
GOD FUCKING DAMN JUST RELEASE THE FUCKING DLC ALREADY SHEEEEEEEEEITTTTTT
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>>434836085
Yeah, it was great.
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>>434816745
I find it rather amusing the name Holy Roman Empire seeing that it was neither Holy nor Roman nor an Empire
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>>434836060
>a republic is communism
Are you retarded?
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>>434836060
It's true though. Sadly there was never a real communist country.
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>>434835171
I love it
>start as horde/tribe
>form poland
>103% cavalry combat ability
>no needed infantry
>100 absolutism for discipline bonus
>one shot everything
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>>434836835
>peasant communities hold the power themselves and elect rulers from among their leaders
Also known as Soviets
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I really really look forward to this, it will probably be missing content however I just can't wait to kill the r*mans as the based Etruscans.
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>>434837070
No, that's literally just a republic.
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>>434813247
Darkest Hour until I beat the Soviet Union.
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>>434836593
>Its been almost half a year now since the reveal trailer.
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>Orthodox don't get Coronations because we decided Coronations should only be based on clergy
>We will however likely give them their own Coronations in a Orthodox expansion

Modders will add Orthodox Coronations based on money or something within the first week but these lazy fucks can't be bothered to make a half assed event.
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>>434837172
Yeah, right. I can smell you from here, commie scum. That aside, a soviet government is also a republic.
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>>434837324
In only name.
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>>434837126
Looking at other paradox games it would probably be smart to buy into this game once some DLCs are out
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>>434835180
Isometric > 3D
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sc2 and I only cheese. Somehow in plat because people don’t know how to counter cheese
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>>434836825
>>434818847
Go to sleep, Voltaire
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>>434821903
I like Rome II, I'm just so fucking bad at it.
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>>434840040
How?
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>>434840079
I have no idea what to comprise my army of, I never know what is a sound investment for the moment is, and I'm terrible at the real time battles.
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>>434840492
Are you mentally impaired? Just play as Rome and build a solid core of Hastati, then the autobattles should play themselves. As for the overmap, just watch the squalor and food values of the buildings and try to balance it out
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>>434813247
CK2, Stellaris, and Old TW games.
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>>434820917
I did it in CK2, pure meme game.
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>>434813247
Ck2 and stellaris sometimes.
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>>434841234
I eventually cleaned it up though.
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>>434831135
>>434831135
The Homeworld games have the same effect on me, five minutes into any fight and my dong expands faster than you can say "Bring Sajuk to bear"
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>>434841431
huehuehue
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>>434813247
test
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>>434840717
I like playing Egypt though, so do I use primarily pikes or wat
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>>434826727
There isn't much more they can add. That DLC was in development since january.
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>>434813247
Mostly paradox games and various xcoms. Just grabbed endless legend, anyone know how it stacks up against civ5?
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I don't know if Caesar III counts but that one.
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>>434832208
based
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>>434842052
Of course. Most factions with lol pikemen are even easier than Rome in the early game. Also, with Egypt you should be rolling in cash from the get go, so I really don't understand what you're doing to fuck it up
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>>434836120
Honestly this stuff looks cool but all I'm thinking is how retarded overpowered the PC will be in late game
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>>434815264
HARD ROCK
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>>434824621
Nothing is shittier than playing with an experienced friend who just goes full blast with his usual autistic routune. Tell him to just sit back and enjoy living vicariously through you.

When I introduced my friend to CK2 I let him start as an Irish countlet while I kept a watchful eye as the King of Scotland, mostly protecting him from getting stomped and aiding him in wars every now and then.

Then when he finally became king of Ireland I let him inherit Scotland while I transported my dynasty to Jerusalem, so he could attempt to beat England and form Brittania now that he knew the basics and had a decent realm.
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>>434830780
I don't really care if it actually runs fine
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>>434820661
They actually said it's going to be a cross between CK character management, Vicky trade management, and EU diplomacy and state management
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>>434815264
This fucking game.
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Where do i find someone to play ck2 with?
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>>434843119
EU diplomacy is totally fine, but fuck if mana isn't retarded for state management
I mean, I feel like it can be done well, but if it's still gonna be "spend some adm mana to magically fix your rioting country" I'll be unimpressed
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>>434842854
Army comps and real time battle confusion, I guess. I kinda just throw units.
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>>434830780
Nice knowledge of history, loser
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I wish EU4 had the depth of CK2 and Vicky2, it is difficult to adjust to the shallowness of EU4 again after playing Paradox's more complex games for many hours.
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>>434826910
What EU and HRE have in common?
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>>434844134
neither are holy, roman or empires
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>>434813247
CK2, HOI4, Total War Attila and Total War Rome 2 with DEI mod

plus a bunch of others
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>>434844050
I feel like EU4 would've fit really well with CK2's style of unique characters
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>>434813247
Quite a few TW games, Hegemony and Vicky 2.
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>>434813247
AoE 2: Easily my favorite, but I often get burned out after being stomped in multiplayer.

SupCom: The last truly innovative RTS.

C&C games and mods: Old favorites. I really wish I could find online opponents for some of them.

Civ V (with CBP/Vox Populi): Great game, but playing a full match is exhausting. I only play every few months.

Total War: Seeing realistic looking battles was fun at first, but I tend to get bored of it eventually. The series doesn't seem to offer much in terms of management, diplomacy, etc.
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>>434815264
POWER PATH
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Any mods that make the politics in HoI4 actually dynamic and interesting?
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>>434815264
UNIT TELEPORTED SAFELY
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>>434846161
No
You're meant to be warring not talking, fag
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>>434846651
>unga bunga me paint map
How is this fun past the second playthrough
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>>434830448
Declare war on them in 1938 or so and have a defensive war against them.
Defeating Russia as Poland is easy as fuck, especially when you form PLC so you can gain additional cores, just make sure you have artillery in your templates and your divisions are fully equipped. 60 or so 20 width divisions is enough to singlehandedly hold off Russia. They'll grind millions into your infantry thinking they're all superior.
Just make sure you give Danzig to Germans. After you're done with Russia, Germany is more tricky, but not that hard either. Just place your infantry around borders except for Poznań.
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>>434847005
>unga bunga me make peace with everyone
How is this fun even on the first playthrough?
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>>434844134
Both violate the sovereignty of the nations that have joined them
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>>434847369
By having a game that actually has administrative aspects and inner country struggles
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>>434813247
>bosna
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What are fun ck2 rulers?
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>>434815264
I just had a blast of Nostalgia and I can't even really remember this game.
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>>434843692
>I kinda just throw units
Just let the enemy come to you, dum dum. You have a phalanx, so you just watch the AI suicide dive right into it over and over. Rip and tear until it is done
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>>434847572
You're talking about a game explicitly focused on WW2. It's about countries struggling with each other more so than inner country struggles. You're playing the wrong game if you want that kind of thing.
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>>434836085
YES! Is there any way to still play it?
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>>434847735
Anyone who isn't a Christian. Makes the game too easy
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>>434847814
Oh, and keep some non-phalanx infantry to cover your flank, of course
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>>434847848
Yeah you're right, I just want something a little more modern but plays more like CK2 and Vicky2
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>>434847450
>HRE
>nations
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>>434820630
I'm really excited for the shattered worlds feature.

If they can work out some sort of random map feature then they have practically a whole new game on their hands.
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>>434847735
byzantine emperors

pagan saxon kings
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>>434815264
Yes

YES
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>>434848548
Well they do but it's still Europe, just random leaders/countires/etc.
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>>434848548
i'm excited for the new hellenic features and roman empire events
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>>434830448
Something tells me that you fucked up your division templates, aim for either 20 or 40 combat width. Also your battle plans are also retarded, your priority should be Stalingrad, once you capture the city rush north to Finland, leave the center to the Germans otherwise you will cut their supply lines.
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>>434813247

>tfw love to play strategy online games
>tfw too tired at the end of the day to play them without fucking something up at the micro level
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>>434830448
Is HOI IV any fun? I've been debating getting it over the last week as i'm looking for a new strategy game and love WW2 but i'm not really sure if I'll actually enjoy grand strategy games.

To add to the thread, i've been playing a lot of total war warhammer 2 which is an absolute blast.
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>>434847913
Here you go
https://crystalien-redux.com
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>>434849782
it's fun, unless you're a hardcore autist, then HoI3 may be more up to your speed
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>>434849782
It's repetitive as shit, but it's your first gsg so you'll probably enjoy it for a while
>tfw can't play TW:WH2 cause my cpu is trash
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>>434850085
nah, my fear is more that it's too autistic with all the management and such so that should be good.
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>>434850392
Yeah I figured i'd be a good entry to see if the genre is for me.

That's a shame, you should really give it a try when you upgrade.
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>>434841234
>>434841431
>>434841548
>3500h in CK2
>never was able to pull of a world conquest or roman empire
>the best I could do is a thick Persia or a Scandinavia with a chuck of Russia
vassal factions always end up fucking things up for me. regard of opinion they always join them even after starting playing with a heir. Been thinking about this a lot lately and I feel that part of the problem is because of the conclave DLC.
Will disable it make things easier?
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>>434849782
It's okay but once you've figured out how things work the vanilla game becomes very repetitive as there's not much to differentiate countries and the war itself is usually very predictable even with ahistorical options enabled. Mods can fix that though
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>>434828948
Does it have proper unit collision yet? I've had such a hard time getting into the newer Total War games, compared with Rome 1 and Medieval 2 it just feels like units have no weight or structure to them. And the fact that I can't divide up armies however I please really, really annoys me. Creating small custom garrisons for towns was something I really enjoyed doing, and by limiting the number of armies you can have limits decisions, meaning wars often turn into wild goosechases as you're forced to chase an enemy with your entire army, only to have him loop around and take your now undefended town, since for some fucking reason you can't just leave half of your army at home to defend.
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>>434815264
Dammmnnn
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>>434850417
It's mindless but quite fun anyway. Just start as Germany (easy) or the US (ultra babby mode) to learn the ropes.
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>>434828928
Halo Wars is fun, if you have an Xbox.
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>>434815264
I remember this Lego series from childhood. I also remember owning some sets of it. I also remember liking them. Those crystals looked cool.

Good times...
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>>434850771
I played with Conclave on and I just ended up changing the laws to absolute rule so the whole DLC didn't really matter. Might as well disable it anyway.
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>>434813247
CK2

But i stopped it after 200hours, it's too time consuming.
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>>434828271
civ2 is best civ. my poor 12 year old ass had so much fun with it in 2012. no matter how many times, i couldn't get tired of it
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>>434850771
Trick is not to make your realm powerful, but make your dynasty powerful. Once you have a kingdom just marry and assassinate like a madman. I managed to make Byzantium Old Norse just through marriage. It will lead to a lot of inbreeding eventually though, but most civil wars will be between members of your dynasty fighting over each other's thrones, so it's all good.
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>>434847024
Attack Russia early, after they do Great Purge.
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>>434852501
It's on PC now, actually. Played it, its a decent port.
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man i sure love when ming picks quantity
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>>434852918
I would have had so much fun with your 12yo ass.
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>>434853796
fucked up that my cousin beat you to it
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Should I bother with Dharma DLC?
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>>434853979
Just pirate it





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