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Seriously though, don't people have phones? Why was there such a huge backlash?
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People expected 4 but got a phone game. Simple as that.
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>>438345902
/thread every one go home
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Theories? What is there to theorize? Blizzard got their PC-based audience super hyped up for PC games, sold them $200 tickets on the promise that they're going to show off PC games, then announced the polar opposite of a PC game and were shocked when people were upset.

>Why didn't Blizzard see it coming?
Okay, that at least is a worthy discussion.
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>>438346342
People bought the tickets for the free Sombra skin, anything else is a bonus.
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>>438345830
Expect it to be riddled with microtransactions. It's considered the norm on mobile, instead of an annoyance.
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>hall is full of wow, diablo, overwatch, and heroes of the storm players that all play on PC
>"LET'S ANNOUNCE A MOBILE GAME"

yeah what did you expect
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>>438345902
I still dont understand how people expected d4, ofc they were gonna make some garbage phone game.
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>>438346941
Meh, I find that most mobile games I play give you so much free shit for merely logging in daily that you never need to use microtransactions to progress. Microtransactions are bait for idiots.
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>>438346941
I still want to see how they are going to monetize the game.
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>>438346342
>Theories? What is there to theorize?

Some people think it was a terrible idea to announce it in an event targeted to hardcore fans and the backlash was to be expected.

Other people think gamers are entitled misogynistic nazis bent on harassing progressive developers.

It's controversial!
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boils down to ((()))
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>>438345830
>some theories?
what? what "theories"? its pretty fucking simple: people who actually like videogames generally associate mobile games with garbage that tries to nickle and dime you or just garbage like angry birds and candy crush. nobody wants to think about that when they think about diablo
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>>438347314
Boils down to vagina? What does this mean?
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>>438347407
I mean the way to fix this perception would obviously be by making an actual good mobile game but this does not look like a good mobile game.
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>>438347091
if you understand how mobile games work, they always give you tons of free shit at the beginning to trap you in. then they stop handing out free shit and the grind gets worse and worse to encourage you to pay.
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>>438347621
Why do you need to ask? It makes sense even if you read it that way.
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>>438347834
How does that make sense?
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>>438347716
They've contracted a chinease company who is known for mobil shovelware.
It's dead from the getgo if you're looking for quality.
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>>438347774
Nah, I've been playing one particular mobile game I like for a long time and if anything it's gotten BETTER, they give me 10 boosts every time I level up instead of 3 and it still takes the same amount of time to level up.

Mobile games are precipitated on keeping people playing, rather than keeping them paying.
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I'm done with ((blizzard))
I gave them many MANY chances to fix their mess but they've been nothing but a big let down at every opportunity
Mobile Diablo 3 was the last nail on the coffin
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>>438348046
>Mobile games are precipitated on whales

fix'd
the overwhelming majority of a mobile game's playerbase literally don't matter, like a credit card user who never accrues debts or fines. They are not the money makers.
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>>438347621
yes, vagina...............
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>>438345830
Think of something you really like that hasn't had a sequel or anything else about it in 5+ years. Then at e3 there's a rumor something new will come out about it, and it turns out it's a fucking mobile game by a trash chinese company.
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>>438348046
well good for you that you found a nice game that suits you, but unfortunately the rest of the market isn't like that. mobile games are designed to suck your time dry or wallet dry just like MMOs.
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>>438348246
...Which goes back to what I said earlier. Microtransactions are bait for idiots, while free players like myself enjoy the game just fine without ever feeling compelled to pay.

>>438348303
I won't disagree about the sucking the time dry part but the microtransactions really only work on idiots. I suppose there are a lot of idiots out there, though.
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>>438347907
((( ))) = jews = greed for money
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>>438348627
Why are Jews represented by a vagina?
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>>438345830
people actually really liked it

all so-called "backlash" was organized by nazi, white people, trump supporters and of course russian bots
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>>438348705
read it up on wikipedia underage faggot
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>>438345830

>Schreier

In other news, business types who don't play or like video games producing video games. Or rather, ordering their monkeys who also don't like video games to make them.
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>>438348720
i dont like it and im not a nazi
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>>438348791
So you don't actually know anything.
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>>438345830
Bethesda sold Fallout Shelter and Blades with zero backlash. Because they actually brought other games.
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>>438348720
>bringing politics into everything
This is why you Trumptards just got absolutely clobbered in the midterms.
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>>438348957
Who is this awesome fellow?
His face inspires confidence and a desire to buy his games.
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>>438347151
It'll probably have dungeons/challenges with good loot that have limited attempts per day, but you can go grind for more attempts in the easier levels, or pay for them.
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>>438345902
people are retarded because they already said they weren't ready to announce 4
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>"Splitscreen"
i got this video game reference

these guys have played video games for a long time, i can tell
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Hey guys, Schreier is just writing this article to pretend that his contradictory positions are not contradictory.

In short, there is no theorizing at all, he is just covering his ass because he got called on his hypocrisy.
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Could it that you need to put in $6000 each month to be competitive in NetEase's other mobile Diablo clones?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/9txnu9/i_played_neteases_crusaders_of_light_extensively/

Or that successful mobile games have an average spend of $400 per player, and the top players pay over $120,000 to win and are all round crimes against humanity?
https://mobilefreetoplay.com/bible/
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>>438349172
He said as he posted a character from an old video game to show that yes, he really is at true gamer, bros, not like those fake gamers who name their gaming related podcast after a video game thing.
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>>438349204
>competitive
>in a single player game
Who the fuck cares? I hate these people who think they need to spend money on a fucking single player game.
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>>438349316
>obfuscation of truth by telling both sides
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>>438349173
This fuckin guy..
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>>438345830
just because i have a phone doesn't mean i should have to like every product a company tries to sell me. People already had a lot of issues with 3. They haven't announced shit in almost 7 years and this is their big announcement?
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>>438349173
>people who spend their lives trying to entertain you
I really don't get this notion that devs and pubs are a charity who are working oh so hard just for your happiness. They're a thriving business with just as many cutthroats as any other industry out there. They're doing this for a living and if they put out a product that the consumers don't want, they should receive a backlash so they can right themselves again. Would they have preferred everyone just applaud and proceed to not give a shit later AFTER they've poured more resources into the product?
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>>438349316
He's right about this though. CNN tries to be objective and it leads to them putting on right wing retards all the time.
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>>438349568
Moreso because the "attack" Schreier is so mad about was just an "out of season april's fool" joke.
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>>438349291
that guy has played a lot of games, i can tell, i remember rinoa from the old FF8 from squaresoft, and most people don't know who that is or what squaresoft is because the "soft" throws people off
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>>438349157
They said that AFTER the whole shitshow.
Its an obvious damage control pr bullshit they pulled out of their ass.
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>>438348957
>Bethesda shows off some shitty mobile games to keep people occupied while they work on actual games
>it actually fucking works
Bravo, Todd. Credit where credit is due.
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>>438349671
yes, right wing "strategists" that shout "orange man bad" and haven't been paid for their services in multiple years
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>theories
I'm gonna give Jason the benefit of the doubt and say that he actually knows what the issue was but his zionist overlords won't let him say.
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>>438349838
The right wingers on CNN shout "orange man good" which is laughable when you look at his complete lack of accomplishments in the past few years and his inability to fulfill even a single one of his campaign promises.
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>>438349984
just give him a chance, he could maybe do one promise given another 6 years, and that would be beneficial and the making of america great of again
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>>438345964
Lawl the topic still got tons of replies.
Anons who want to end topics are fucking idiots who should use multiple websites to stop feeling like they need to mod topics
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>>438349392
>all mobile games are the same
>all people play exactly the way I do
retard
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>>438349568
They would prefer you to suck whatever shit falls out of their corporate overlords asshole, because they are paid promotionalists, not """"""""""""""""""Journalists"""""""""""""""""""""" obviously.
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>>438349731

The disgusting entitlement on red shirt guy (PBUH)'s stupid white face ruined Schreier's evening kombucha and a perfectly good conversation about politics in the Philippines.
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>>438348791
election newfag detected
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>>438349316
No wonder he ended up as games journalist.
He doesn't even understand one of the most basic aspect of journalism.
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>>438349157

>ITT people that pay attention to: nothing and no one

This is why Democrats still exist.
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>>438349204
>he's the hero /v/ needs, but not the one it deserves right now
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>>438350337
is this real
this can't be real
this is a fake right? this is some """"""""Fan""""""""" thing?
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>>438349157
I keep hearing that but I see no evidence they ever denied 4 prior to the actual reveal.
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>>438348046
What is this particular mobile game, anon?
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>>438349671
CNN isnt objective because they never cover issues that actually reveal the awful things their corporate overlords are doing to screw over millions of people. That's the whole reason modern identity politics were invented, to give the news an illusion of seeming unbiased when they're actually censored to Hell and back on the issues that mega corps want the p et poles ignorant and confused about
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>>438349157
They didnt need to announce Diablo 4 officially.

They could have just said,
>Hey guys, we're working on Diablo 4, expect great things. In the meantime, heres Immortal
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>>438350475

Diablo 4 exists in a peculiar quantum state anon.

It could be under development, or not, depending on how closely observed it is.
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Reminder that whether game journalists defend or shit on corporations depends entirely on if they feel they will "own" their enemies, in this case, gamers.

They have no other principle than that.
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>>438349813
>nintendo does it and it works
>beth does it twice and it works
>EA doesn't and it fails twice
>blizzard rather follows EAs approach then those who worked
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>>438350142
>PBUH
Player Battlegrounds Unknown... Hat?
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>>438350475
Fanmade by a korean I think.
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>>438350897

>PBUH

Praise Be Unto Him, an honorific we mortal gamers must always attach to divinity.
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>>438348998
Literally what? Did something happen to the senate when I was looking away?
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>don't you have a phone
I have an ass but I don't like to be fucked in it.
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>>438345830
Reminder: Grim dawn is a good alternative to diablo for those that want a more classic experience(normal expansions instead of DLC, talent trees, etc). Path of exile is free good alternative if you're okay with always online and a trading economy. Supporting alternatives is better than just boycotting.
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>>438351219
Grim Dawn is a dead game son.
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>>438349671
>CNN tries to be objective
lol
I'm not even right wing and I can say that's bullshit
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>>438351307
>1P game
>caring if it's dead
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>>438351476
>Playing a diablo-like for the single player
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>>438349671
>CNN
Who? What?
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They should have just announced it with a website teaser and a youtube video. Not live to thousands of pc gamers.
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>>438345830
What is there to speculate?
>Make phone game where target audience is China
>Reveal said game after hyping up new Diablo entry in the west
>Why did the wrong target audience not like it?
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>>438351527
>he doesn't autistically theory-craft homebrew builds in SP runs
>he never played Diablo 1 in SP for maximum aesthetic
Also my personal issue is that the pace of MP runs is set by the fastest or the slowest player. Sometimes I just want to fucking hold left click on shit for 5 hours and explore the maps instead of rushing the Acts in 45 minutes or having to stop 2 hours into a gaming session because someone had to bail.
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>>438351668
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>>438345830
>Blizzcon
>A literal event for HARDCORE fan who have been there since vanilla WoW
>Show some Mobile shit
>WE DIDN'T KNOW EVERYONE WOULD BE MAD
what a bunch of suits
>show some casual
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>>438351868
WoW has always been the most casual MMO on the market since 2004
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>>438351868

>what a bunch of suits

What's more disturbing is that someone like Cheng had to have known better and was powerless to do anything about it.

They've checked out and are phoning it in now, waiting for retirement.
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>>438351868
>Pay 200 bucks just to be told, don't you all have phones?
Shit was hilarious
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>>438347621
>>438347907
>>438348705

i love you, you magnificent bastard
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>>438352076
>all the Smashers being laughed at for their direct
>then this happens and it's immediately forgotten
Good ol' Blizzard. "There will never be anything worse than this Smash direct" "Hold my Stormstout Brew"
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>>438345902
People expected an EXP on 3, or maybe another class pack ANYTHING content related to the main series.
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>>438352076
That's the kind of line that's going to be levied at them for fucking years, man. What a tremendous fuck up.
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>>438345830
The only phone I have is a landline one.
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>>438353250
And yet it's still not as bad as "The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes."
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>>438345830
Blizzcon was not the proper place to announce a mobile game, particularly while showing no other Diablo news.
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>>438351750
And not even the chinks like it.

>>438351868
They only had to say "we're working on Diablo 4 (even if it's a lie) so you can play Immortal to kill some time".
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>>438353541
>while showing no other Diablo news.
Do they need to have Diablo news? It's not called Diablocon...
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>>438345830
>extended use of cellphones will give you cancer

I've never owned a cellphone or a smartphone, and don't plan on using one ever.
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>>438353673
If you're going to show up to a crowd starved for DIablo and give them nothing but a phone game without so much as a hint that you are working with other things? Yeah. You should be able to see where that is going to be a problem.
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>>438353673
They should have started with Diablo, ended with Warcraft 3 Reforged.
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>>438345830
I certainly didnt buy a smartphone to play shitty mobile versions of games.
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>>438345830
Please God, please let Jason Schreier be fired and killed. Please. I hate him.
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>>438353910
https://kotaku.com/death-to-fall-damage-1829623960
>From the start of the game, your main character (Kassandra, or Alexios if you’re basic)
What did he mean by this?
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This is a money-grab pure and simple.

Some dumb ass corporate fuck at Blizzard is trying to impress his bosses after he showed them how much money mobile games can make (microtransactions etc).
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It's literally just a Diablo game, phones can pretty much run on par with Diablo 3. Diablo (and every other Blizzard franchise) has always LCD trash that ripped off smarter worlds created by smarter people, they were already mobile tier.
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>>438354294
WOMAN GOOD
MAN BAD
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>>438345902
>People expected 4

That's a stretch, but at least a paid update to 3.
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>>438349316
Isn't being objective just an extension of fairness, though?
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gaming journos can't all be that daft, right?
like, there's gotta be one guy out there that wrote an article about how blizzard deserved it?
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>>438354486
He is correct about this, to be fair.
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>>438354294
I don't even know. I don't understand how their minds work. Isn't "basic" an inherently sexist insult? It's always coupled with the gendered slur "bitch" and it's used to insult stereotypical women and their whorish behavior. Why is a progressive SJW turbo-Jew using it as a pejorative unironically? Shouldn't that be a huge no-no? I'm sure if a straight white male without enough faggot Jew cred said it they'd be all over him.
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>>438354702
Cucked and bluepilled.
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>>438354751
You have no right to criticize this on the website that uses "based" (black slang) all the time.
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>>438354625
Eurogamer did something about how the game plays well but it really doesn't matter to anyone.
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>>438354702
He's "correct" that attractive female player characters are superior to male ones, but I suspect his motivations are entirely contrary to any you or I might hold dear.
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>>438354848
I don't think you understood my point in any capacity. What does that have to do with anything?
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>>438354848
Based is not black slang you dumb shitbird. It's twitter slang and has nothing to do with the negro except that a negro was the one who came up with it. It's got nothing to do with being black, it wasn't made for blacks to use about other blacks, shut the fuck up you retard.
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>>438348046
What's this fabulous game so we can laugh at you asshole?
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>>438354871
>Listening to the kikes in charge of the vidya press
Unironically kys
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People's hatred of the mobile platform doesn't take a whole lot of detective work. Mobile games have shown no innovations in gameplay and their biggest contribution has been normalizing monetized game features. It's a black hole of creativity fueled by greed that thrives on its accessibility to the gullible and naive.
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>>438355141
>we
Reddit
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>>438354848
if you enjoy any modern forms of music, you're already guilty of enjoying something created by blacks
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>>438355137
>and has nothing to do with the negro except that a negro was the one who came up with it.
And the fact that black people will regularly use the term to refer to crackheads, and the fact that its entire roots are based around black culture to begin with.
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>>438346342
when did fucking blizzard promised a pc game about diablo, let alone diablo 4?

the only official statement said: diablo content
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>>438345830
>Be a fan of Diablo, one of the most well renowned WRPGS ever made
>Have not had a game in 6 years
>Have not had a good game in 18 years
>Blizzard teases you with a big Diablo announcement at their personal convention they charge $200 a ticket for
>It's a fucking mobile game
>It's not even made by Blizzard; it was outsourced to the Chinese
>Like a day after intense fan-hate they say "W-we're making Diablo 4 you guys, we swear!"
This is some of the most blatant and disgusting abuse of a fanbase I've seen in a while. "Don't you have phones" as a deflection is going to be the next "Donte's hair", and it baffles me that people seriously don't get that a consumer is entitled to a quality product worth their fucking money; it's more confusing people seriously get mad at the consumer if they state they're not going to purchase an obviously shitty game.
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>playing phone games on phone
you mean on emulator where you can macro tedious shit and set hotkeys for a controller?
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Just be thankful that Blizzard is capable of counting to 3 unlike Valve.
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>>438354552
No, you retards think that if you have a reason behind your opinion it magically becomes objective. Nothing can actually be objectively good or bad, or better or worse, yet underages still think that because no one disagrees with the opinion "higher fps is better" for example, it somehow magically becomes objective rather than simply being the dominant opinion.
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>>438355308
Captain christ on a cracker barrel ya just know that this faggot is some r/TD+pol xposter.
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>>438355421
in the case of diablo immortal, you just set up a script to always tap by holding down the left mouse button instead of mashing like a retard.
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so what if I have a phone? that doesn't mean I want to use it to play some fucking trash house game.
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>>438345830
$0.10 has been deposited to your Blizzard Store account for this post. Have a wonderful day!
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>>438355407
>>It's not even made by Blizzard; it was outsourced to the Chinese
I would not install this on my phone. Fuck the Chinese and whatever backdoor, information mining shit they're bound to sneak in there. Both the west and east would be much better off if we told China to fuck off.
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>>438355461
You're just a fucking reductionist.
The human species is founded on community. Teamwork. If consensus can be reached on any given topic that is objectively good because consensus is helpful to the human species overall.
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>>438349763
>>438350506
They put up a post beforehand that made it painfully obvious Diablo 4 wasn't being announced but you autists are incapable of basic reading comprehension apparently https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo3/22549433/diablo-at-blizzcon-2018
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>>438346941
Blizzard already has Hearthstone out on mobile, which is completely playable without putting in any money. Dungeon Runs, a free feature, is arguably more fun than the actual game
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>>438354848
Based is FGC slang.
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>>438355657
>things can be objectively good because they benefit humanity
Sam Harris please leave
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>>438355807
how new?
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>>438355676
>beforehand
Going to need receipts on that one. This kind of shit can easily be faked.
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>>438355657
No, again you're a retard who thinks "consensus = objective" despite that having nothing to do with objectivity. The idea that consensus is inherently helpful to the human species is a subjective opinion
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>>438355407
Just imagine being a Blizzdrone unironically in 2018. You spent $50 for a Virtual Ticket (Read: Access to a zero-budget livestream that would be free in any other event for any other crowd). As you sit there and watch as they announce absolutely nothing of value or interest, their big Diablo-related announcement, an announcement for an extremely big release that most Blizzard fans will be clamoring for information on, is a Chinese mobile game which is as blatantly built to absorb money from chinks and whales as possible, with zero interest in being built for actual players, and when it is inevitably met with boos from the crowd, your only recourse is the guy up on stage desperately saying "D-DON'T YOU GUYS HAVE PHONES?!??" followed by an almost immediate damage control announcement that they are actually making the game that the fans wanted and to be patient while this shitshow passes.
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>>438356036
No, it really fucking isn't, and this is why you're a fucking retard. If you don't understand this concept, you're a goddamn idiot and the world will be very very lucky if your defective genes are not passed on.
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>>438347716
There's plenty of good mobile games out already - XCom, Civ VI, Final Fantasy Tactics, Hearthstone, GTA3/Vice City, etc, etc, people are just stunningly ignorant
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>>438356137
It is though, learn what objectivity actually means and also turn 18 before posting again
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>>438355676
>Vaguely worded message about how they know what the fans want, and won't release information about it at the convention
>Said message released months after the tickets to Blizzcon went on sale, as well as months after being able to easily sell or transfer them off, thus locking said fans into seeing it
$0.10 has been deposited to your Blizzard Store account for this post. Have a wonderful day!
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>>438356223
Yeah, thanks for that hot take there Ya fedora tipping 14 year old """"""""""""Intellectual""""""""""
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>>438356146
Wait, is it a new FFT game or just a port of the original?
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>>438356146
LOL
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>>438345830
>Schreier
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>>438356271
>trying again because you got ignored the first time
Here's your (You) so you stop.
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>>438356276
I don't play the series, you tell me? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXf77vOcFRg

>>438356271
If that's a vague message to you, you're pretty fucking stupid
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>>438356274
I see you didn't take my advice
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>>438356465
$0.10 has been deposited to your Blizzard Store account for this post. Have a wonderful day!
>>438356468
You do know what the definition of vague is, don't you? Of course you do. This was vague, as in people only knew it meant it wasn't a mainline (D3/4) release, beyond that nothing. You're just pretending to be retarded though, since you're just a shill, just like half of this thread.
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>>438345830
They should have made Heroes of the Storm mobile.

Fucking chinks and fanboys would ate it.
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>>438349316
Those tweets were even on the same day as well, how in the fuck do you fail this hard.
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>>438345830
Mobile games aren't legitimate games. They're games in the same sense that Interactive Buddy is a game.
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>>438357371
Yeah man he sure failed, that's why his career is dead now because of a tweet he made back in 2014. Oh wait he's still making tons of money working for Kotaku because internet outrage accomplishes nothing.
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>>438345830
>lets bring our journo big boy brains to crack down the backlash mistery
you don't need theories to understand the backlash, you just need to hear what the people are actually telling you.
Releasing a shitty chinese mobile game in front of a hardcore pc gaming crowd, with no plans to release a pc entry only tells them that that they are not the target audience, and they are worried that Blizzard is ditching the PC games in favor of mobile, which seem to be doing, because they are profitable as fuck thanks to the retarded chinese

It's that easy
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>>438357832
>Kotaku
I still can't believe they're still around. I really expected them to die off after that lawsuit.
>>438357832
>internet outrage accomplishes nothing
I mean it does sometimes, but yeah, on average it's just a fart in the wind.
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>>438357832
>tons of money working for Kotaku
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>>438357603
No zoomer is going to know what interactive buddy is.
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>>438358031
>I mean
Ignored.
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>>438357832
*working for videogame companies
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>>438358004
The funny part is 99% of people complaining weren't at the conference, and didn't play the game, but somehow have really strong opinions about it, even though people that played it on the floor said it was fairly decent

This is why gaming communities are shit, people being outraged 'on behalf' of others, not because they actually know anything about the issue
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Nobody wants to play games on a cell phone. I have never seen someone say "yeah, I'm getting the cellphone version instead" if given the choice between a dedicated PC version or a mobile one. Hde cenh oy hde poiganh gouri eaniyr aic hoiay oc hoboccom, oc any time really.
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>>438358135
Get ye back to /lit/, pedant.
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>Schreier
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>>438357832
Money isn't what I'm referring to, I'm on about his understanding of things like fairness and objectivity when it comes to doing journalism.
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>>438358254
Did you have a stroke halfway through typing that?
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>>438358253
For the record Detroit was a pretty good movie and the threads about it are a bunch of people who have never seen the movie but have strong opinions on it for obvious reasons.
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>>438358254
LMFAO
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>>438351219
>yfw PoE revealed for PS4 right after the Diablo meltdown
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>>438358413
I think he started typing in Al Bhed.
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Weeks before blizzcon blizz hyped up Diablo by releasing a video announcing multiple projects. People were expecting D4 because of this. Then slightly before blizzcon they made a follow-up video, some people like to say they said to temper expectations, but they didn't, they just said they'd announce things in time. People took this as, okay, maybe not D4, but perhaps a D3 expansion, rumored D2 remaster, rumored Netflix series, etc.

People pay $200 to attend, $50 for a virtual ticket. Then at their biggest event, with hardcore PC focused gamers, the one franchise they've mentioned multiple projects, they announce only a mobile reskin of a chink phone game.

If you aren't pissed there's something wrong with you. All they had to do was end the Diablo presentation with a 5 second title screen of whatever's coming up. If there was anything coming up.
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>>438358031
>I mean
Why in the name of fuck is literally every sentence spouted by a wanker on the internet prefaced by that nowadays? Its literal mouth garbage word filler.

>It does sometimes, but yeah, on average it's just a fart in the wind.
Look, a far more decently functional sentence! Just fucking say what you mean instead of hiding behind the equivalent of "b-but".
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>>438358587
betta dead than al bhed ya?
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>>438358253
If Diablo Immortal is good or bad is irrelevant, the issue is Blizzard slowly shifting their development focus from PC to Mobile. They declared that they moved their best devs to work on more mobile titles on an interview this week.

And the worse part is that they were genuinely dumbfounded at the strong pushback from the hardcore pc fanbase they tried to sell a phone game to.
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>>438356271
If this is vague to you then you're beyond retarded
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>>438354294
>or Alexios if you’re basic
?????

literal what
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>>438358610
There's hundreds of hours of video content on the virtual ticket, as well as the classic wow demo. You can watch the opening ceremony where the announcements are made on Youtube. If you bought a virtual ticket for the opening ceremony, you're an idiot.
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>>438358610
Yeah, the shills here have been told this. They don't care, and are making excuses left, right, and center throughout the whole thread.
>>438358748
Oooh, so the shills are actually just journalists visiting the site. That makes way more sense. Literally never seen anyone criticized for typing like that before, but snobby journalists would indeed be the kind of people to home in on sentence structuring rather than anything else.
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>>438347080
of course?
care to point to previous blizzcon events where the main announcement is a mobile title? i'll be waiting.
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>>438359131
>shill shill shill shill shill
Obsessed
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>>438349984
To be fair, no politician manages to keep his campaign promises. After election is before the election as they say where I'm from.
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>>438345902
That and gamers son't want to play games on their phones. I have a phone but I don't play games on it. I use my consoles and PC to play games on, not a goddamn phone. You use a phone to call people.
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>>438358751
Diablo Immortal being good or bad is the whole point of the thread, stop moving the goalposts. If it's good, there's no reason to complain, because Blizzard is still making decent games. The vast majority of their revenue comes from PC, so the idea they're abandoning the platform is idiotic neckbeard fodder.
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>>438359423
>You use a phone to call people.
>2018
>communicating verbally with other human beings
Sit down grandpa, and let me tell you about texting.
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>>438354625
Colin Moriarty did and that it honestly means far more that they didn't expect the backlash to begin with.
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>>438359918
>2018
>texting
Sit down boomer and let me tell you about facetime
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>>438359870
>because Blizzard is still making decent games
Except Blizzard isn't making Immortal.
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>>438346941
It's hard for me to believe that game wasn't parody.
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>>438347091
You know that's bad game design right? A game shouldn't tell you to wait "x" amount of time or play "x" games for this day only.
Let's use World of Warcraft as an example.
Grinding rep in Vanilla was killing mobs. You can finish your rep grind in a day or plan it out over the course of a week, or 2 weeks or however long you wanted to take grinding said rep. Now rep grinded are capped with daily x amount of world quests and weekly missions. So now rep grinds can take a couple of weeks or even a couple of months if you are slow.
Not only that but games also use fear of missing out to get you to play. Isn't "Beat the game and get this skin" better than "Pay 5$ and get this skin"
Isn't "Here's 20 fighters to play as" better than "Here's 18 fighters to play as vs 2 more as DLC for 5$ each?
Should a game really have "Log in every day in this month to receive X"? Wouldn't you rather "Here's a challenge that you can complete at any time and receive X, but it's not easy to complete"
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>>438356146
>look at all these great mobile games
>ports
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>>438360113
I'm already sitting. Tell me, what is this time of faces?
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>>438360363
Doesn't make them not good
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>>438360363
But surely there are some original, made from the ground up, games for phones! Anon will get back to us with a fine list in no time!
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>>438360463
But why would I play them on mobile when I can play them on PC/console/handheld and have a better experience?
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>>438360336
Your way is preferable and all, but I find that the "play X games for this day only" is more games than I want to play in that day anyway. So I see why mobile games succeed, because not everyone wants to sit down for hours playing games. Sometimes they want to play an hour a day and that's it.
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>>438360693
Because you can't take your PC on your commute, unless you're unemployed or live in a public transit-free backwater, in which case disregard
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>>438360894
Or I could use a Switch, Vita, or a DS. All of which will run better and still have a better library than whatever half ass ports are on the mobile store.
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>>438360894
>Because you can't take your PC on your commute
Hold my beer.
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>>438360445
It's the only way bitches communicate nowadays.
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>>438345830
Paying more than 100usd for a phone is stupid when laptops exist.
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>>438361052
Ok great, do that, the majority of adult age people would prefer not to look like this
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>>438360720
Mobile games tend to combo shitty practices.
Daily Quests.
Log-in bonuses.
Capped rewards.
Let's say you play for an hour a day for 5 days. You do you daily chores, collect your log-in bonuses and capped out rewards. I'm in the hospital for those 5 days and on day 6 i'm ready to play. I can't catch up to you, I missed out on log in bonuses and even if I invest 12 hours today, the capped rewards for the day prevent me from getting near you. Mobile games are too shallow, not only do they not require higher brain function to play but they also don't even want you to play them for more than hour a day.
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>>438361414
Normal people don't care about being 'behind' one day, only min-maxing autists even spending time thinking about this
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>tfw i'm the last adult on earth without a mobile phone
am i seriously missing out on awesome shit??
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>>438361265
Anon you're going to look that way whether you play on a handheld or your phone. Everyone else has no problem not being a sperg with their handhelds.
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>>438361606
This. It's a single player game, you don't benefit from "catching up" to anyone.
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>>438361636
Internet in your pocket is kind of a big deal, other than that, if you're living happily without it, probably not
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>>438361636
I don't even have a mobile phone, I have a Kindle. Having so much stuff available portably is awesome.
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>>438361962
>Internet in your pocket is kind of a big deal
what goods the internet if its in my pocket?

>>438362058
>Having so much stuff available portably is awesome.
i guees i just don't get it
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>>438361606
>>438361756
If a game needs an incentive to get you to log in play the game then is it really that good? I miss when the fun and challenge was the incentive to log in.
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>>438345902
Wrong. They expected something more than phone. People weren't starving for Warcraft content. WC3 remastered could have waited until 2019. Diablo 2 remaster should have been higher priority.
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>>438361606
>>438361756
You do if you're playing coop.
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>>438362816
If you're playing coop then the people you're playing with aren't splerging out so theyre that far ahead of you because you didn't play for 1 fucking day.
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>>438362319
You will if you get one. I used to be old fashioned and think paper books were superior, then I got a Kindle and realized how much more useful it is to have every single book I would ever want available to me at all times, and in a device that's smaller than a book and weighs less.
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>>438359423
>That and gamers son't want to play games on their phones. I have a phone but I don't play games on it. I use my consoles and PC to play games on, not a goddamn phone. You use a phone to call people.
I have a flipphone because I ain't sucker enough to pay for the utter ripoff that is mobile data rates.
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>>438362321
I don't think the two are mutually exclusive. If the game is good, it's just a bonus for playing an already good game. It's up to you to find one that you find enjoyable and fair.
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>>438347151
Limited "lives", selling gold & potions, time gated dungeon runs. Paid arena mode similar to HS. This is just off the top of my head. Mobile gaming is anti-gaming.
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>>438362934
That really depends on the pace. In D2 you can do a lot of progress in one day and in principle run through Normal to Hell if you're persistent enough. I guess, mobile games are paced differently, but the it will still be an issue if the game prevents you from playing it at your preferred pace.
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>>438363408
If you're paying for Arena, you're doing it wrong. Completing quests will easily get you the gold. Doing non-terribly in Arena gives you the entrance fee back.
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>>438363408
And gambling with Gheed for real money lol.
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>>438363690
Gheed's
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>>438363991
Formerly Azrael's
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>>438363539
This is the board that couldn't figure out how to finish the HotS tutorial, it's really no surprise that he fails at Hearthstone.
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>>438364874
Girl on the right is very cute.
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>>438363690
>>438363408

Buying socket rerolls. Real money Runewords. Paid storage space.
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>>438364874
>some chink will release a not diablo clone
>it'll be a reskinned version with assets lifted from Netease game
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SMILE
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>>438346681
>"free" skin
>buying a 200 dollar ticket
Capaitalism ho!
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>>438345902
>People expected 4 but got a phone game
They got what they were expecting because Diablo is a brainless hack n slash point and click RNG loot simulator and Blizzard did nothing wrong by putting that trash on the platform where it belongs.
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>>438367602
>not calling it "hack n trash"
At least try to be clever.
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>>438361265
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if there was no monetization whatsoever outside of cosmetics, it could be pretty chill.

But we all know that shit ain't going to fucking happen, look how often you have to reroll gear lines for perfect slots, that shit is all ripe for the taking with "enhancement protection" and other bullshit that comes with this territory.
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Not to mention all the blood, gore and dark themes removed from the game! Even the trailer was china-fied. no blood, all weapon impacts off screen
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>>438369263
Hey, does China have censorship laws for sexual stuff and not just violence? Because I just found this yesterday and noticed the cleavage is censored in China.
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Taihou
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>>438345902
This.
How fucking hard would it have been to throw together a teaser trailer that reveals nothing then slap a big 4 on the end with Coming 2020 or 2021 or whatever?
Would have prevented this entire mess.
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>>438370141
They don't even have to commit to a date. Just put "Coming"
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>>438370141
They expect people to gobble up what ever they present.
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>>438345830
>oy vey why do the persecute me so
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Yeah.
Don't you have a PC?
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>>438369952
i think so. Its been china-fied. its not meant for us
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>>438345830
phone games are bad and only exist to be played on the toilet and to consume money to have brief moments of fun* *not waiting for the next thing to happen
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>>438370141
They don't care. It's just as simple as that. It all comes down to how much money they'll make off of it in the end - and they will since, as has been said repeatedly on the board recently, mobile games are a massive cash cow.

In fact, this may well have been part of their plan from the get go. Which scenario generates more buzz on the Internet for their shitty new phone game? A 30s D4 cinematic would've kept the hardcore fans somewhat, if not fully sated, and the D:I release would've gone off basically without a hitch. Which is bad in this case because not too many people would really give a shit about it at all. Instead it's the primary focus, and fans raise a stink about that. Journalists then somehow jump on this, including human scum like OP's pic, and pretend they give a shit about fans making fun of/getting mad at Blizzard. Thus resulting in far more discussion of said shitty phone game than would have otherwise occurred.
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>>438348416
You're grinding through a system built to make microtransactions enticing and somehow you think you're smarter for it. It's not even a game, just a bunch of low res JPEGs and numbers on a fucking phone
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>>438345830
>Why was there such a huge backlash?
- Blizzard, known for PC games, ended their capstone with a fucking mobile game
- Response to the fan outcry and dissatisfaction shows a large disconnect between the top brass at Blizzard and the fanbase.
- To follow up on this, Morhaime, Pardo, Metzen, the old guard is almost all gone and now Blizzard is filled with Activision yes men who are more focused on churning profit from chinese and iphone normies

To sum up, many people that grew up playing the older titles are realizing they are not the targeted consumer base anymore, making people even more sad which turns into anger and frustration
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>>438355349
You have to be pretty fucking stupid to think it's somehow unreasonable for people to expect PC or even console content at the main Diablo presentation, a PC series.
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>>438371356
Not to mention then even more of said negative feelings from being told they're "entitled" by expressing these feelings and thoughts at the company. Sure, you could say that fans should or could have been nicer about it, but what difference does it make? It's not like these companies usually give a shit about opinions outside their boardroom anyways.
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>>438363389
Last I checked it's up to the developers to make one that is enjoyable and fair. Giving you bonuses for logging in seems like just a cynical way of doing it
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>>438371323
Well first off you have no idea which game I'm playing and second I'm not playing a game with grinding. The game I'm playing has the same amount of playing regardless of whether or not you pay and it is not a tedious amount. Hell, you probably play more video games in one day than I play of this particular game in an entire week.
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>>438371759
Maybe it is on PC games, but mobile games are all about convenience. They do it because it takes literally seconds to tap the app button every day on the mobile device you're already making use of anyway.
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>>438361606
These mobile games have leaderboards and multiplayer guilds so you're basically telling people they're not normal for wanting to be relevant in the rankings
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>>438371765
>I'm not playing a game with grinding
>has microtransactions but not p2w
Choose one
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>>438372046
I choose both. Looks like you don't know enough about mobile games.
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>>438371903
> but mobile games are all about convenience.
That's a funny way of saying monetization and retention over quality
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>>438372046
Technically PoE fits that bill, doesn't it? The extra storage space you can buy isn't really P2W, and everything else is just skins.
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>be "fan" of game
>have absolutely no idea Blizzard was hiring for a mobile Diablo for months
>ignore Blizzard's post not to get hyped at Blizzcon
>mobile game is officially announced
>man baby rage
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>>438371941
Yes. Wanting to grind for an arbitrary rank is something only genuine autists with no friends and too much time on their hands care about.
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>>438371765
The difference is the video games I play aren't designed for non-cosmetic mtx.
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>>438372163
Fortnite as well.
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>>438372227
>Wanting to rank comparatively is for autists with no friends

Playing video games for more than an hour a week is something only genuine autists with no friends and too much time on their hands care about.
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>>438372279
>>438372429
Starting to think you don't play many games period if you have this much time to bicker about mobile games you're not going to play.
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>>438347151
Can't you check all the other arpg clones from netease?
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>>438372128
I know more than enough about mobile games and it just looks like you're just lying out of your asshole since you still haven't named the mobile game that supposedly has both.
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>>438372504
Starting to think you play nothing but mobile games period if you have this much time to stan for mobile games to rationalize why you play them
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>>438372215
>Be a journalist
>Pretend to give a shit about what fans of a series think
>Drum up good boy points with gaming company to continue getting free stuff in the future for your site by lashing out at said fans
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>>438345830
I don't poz my phone with mobile games though, If I need to pass the time ebooks will suffice. People can definitely use more reading in their lives.
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>>438372649
I'm not lying, but I don't intend to name it. It is mine and I don't want anyone touching it.
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>>438372504
>you don't play many games period if you have this much time to bicker about mobile games you're not going to play.

What kind of retard logic is this? Literally not allowed to say mobile games are shit despite facts just because I'm not a mobile game enthusiast?
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>>438372897
>If I need to pass the time ebooks will suffice. People can definitely use more reading in their lives.
Let me guess, you "want to read" but you don't actually read? What was the last book you read?
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>>438372919
So you're lying and the game doesn't have both. Got it
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>>438373020
No, I'm not lying.
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>>438372504
>Starting to think you don't play many games period
I'm not the one who called leaderboards and guilds autistic
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They really shouldn't have show it at all, just a small marketing campaign and call it a day, everyone keeps saying "wow Diablo will generate millions!" but if that was true they wouldn't have needed to do this, Blizzard obviously doesn't know what the hell they are doing.
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>>438350118
/thread
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>>438347621
it boils to something i’ never seen?
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>>438373116
Sure buddy.
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>>438373006
I don't have to prove anything to you, who the fuck are you?
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>>438373271
I'm not lying.
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>>438373312
So you don't read then. That's what I thought.
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>>438345830
Why the fuck is this guy pushing so hard for people to like this shit? He's practically the most vocal person in favor of it. Blizzard must've given him a large check
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>>438351834
>>438351668
Thanks for those pics. I’m not going to derail the thread, but i couldn’t help but thank you for these. Been looking for em’.
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>>438373316
Sure buddy
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>>438349316
>Perfection can't be attained, so it's no use to strive in that direction
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>>438373176
Are you seriously trying to contend that they are not? I smell a WoW addict.
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>>438373407
>I like reading
>Nu uh
If he told you what he reads, you would just shitpost about that
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>>438373524
>arcade games are autistic
You're a retard
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>>438349173
>>438349316
(((Schreier)))
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>when you want to transition into mobile but don't want to lose your PC audience so you try to transfer them over by releasing their games exclusively on mobile but they hate it
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>>438373640
LMAO. Keep digging yourself deeper.
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>/v/ unironically defending mobile games with IAP mechanics

what went wrong
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>>438373773
Elitism went away, casuals took over.
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>>438373772
The irony. You're literally calling competitive rankings in all video games autistic. Stop embarrassing yourself
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>>438345830
>Seriously though, don't people have phones
Imagine having this retarded mentality. If you have x, you must be fine with it then! I also have a microwave oven, a vacuum cleaner and a washing machine. Doesn't mean I wish to play to Diablo on them you absolute dipshit
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>>438373895
Starting to think you don't play many games period if you have this much time to bicker about games on your washing machine you're not going to play.
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>>438373864
...They are, dude. Listen to the words that are coming out of your mouth.
COMPETITIVE. VIDEO GAMES.

Are you serious right now.
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>>438373851
You fucks didn't gatekeep hard enough.
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>>438373773
Baffling right, like why there's a fucking FE heroes thread up 100% of the time, along with other trash like FGO and azur lane
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>>438373895
>Not playing games on his fridge
Get a load of this casual
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>>438373895
I think you can play Doom on microwave now, but really, didn't anyone ever told the guy who decided to promote their shitty mobile game that just because you can do it doesn't mean you should?
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>>438355407
>>Like a day after intense fan-hate they say "W-we're making Diablo 4 you guys, we swear!"
The good/bad part of that is that didn't happen.
Some random """"""""""""journalist""""""""""" compeltely made that up so cuk corporate cock. Blizzard came out and said they aren't working on 4 and they didn't remove anything from the convention.
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>>438373993
>Are you serious right now
>competitive video games is only for autistics!
Wew lad
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>>438373895
It's not just that, there's a ton of people who opt for shittier or prepaid phones because they don't use phones that much. These phones are pretty much incapable of running anything
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>>438373995
>gatekeep
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>>438374216
Alright man, I guess you're just baiting. Consider me baited. That's it out of me.
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>>438374216
>competitive video games is only for autistics!
Most of them time
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>>438374321
Again the irony.
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>>438374309
That faggot outed himself as a redditor outright but he is right. I haven't seen anyone tell these obvious newfags to lurk more in ages.
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Why is this confusing? Why would you need theories to understand what is upsetting people?
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>>438374350
If you're a casual pleb maybe
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Has anyone noticed the shilling for blizzard games hasnt stopped on here since this happened.
In fact it may have ramped up.
They also have that typical shill attitude like they are cranky their advertising time is being wasted if you criticise them.
Im honestly not surprised if blizzard pays some tumbkr scum to sit on here shiling their shit all day.
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>>438374417
These people literally cannot wrap their head around the concept of wanting to be better than other people in a video game. That's the level these P2W mobile apologists are at.
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>>438374402
I said that's it out of me. You won. You can go to bed or whatever.
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>>438345830
>GOTTA GET ME SOME CLICK BAIT MONEY

fucking really why people still writing article about lolablo?
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>>438374350
Lots of competitive video games aren't even made for competitive players in the first place.
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>>438374605
No please keep going. I want to see the depth of your mental gymnastics on how competitive video games are inherently autistic but I'm somehow the one baiting.
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>>438374525
Shilling is easy as fuck here, wouldn't be surprised at all that Blizz paid some money to unironically defend mobile shit here.
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>>438360894
How fucking addicted are you that you need to play games in your commute?
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>>438372323
Fortnite isn't a mobile game, it's a PC/console game that got ported over to mobile.
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>>438345830
What's a franchise you like?
Imagine that the next installment on that franchise is made by a Chinese third developer and only for mobile - with no plans to bring it to anything else.
It's also online reliant; have fun playing with latency laden shitters on 3g.
Why aren't you happy? Don't you have a phone?
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>>438355786
a TCG is completely viable on mobile though. It's slow and turn based. An ARPG is not.

I've been playing MTG Arena, and I'm actually hoping they port it to mobile so I can play it when I'm away.
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>>438373993
Back to r/braincells with you.
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>>438345902
Why did people expect 4? They have already proven with the RMAH that you can't monetize Diablo. The only natural step for a corporation like blizzard is moving to mobile.
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>>438374786
>70 pepe the frog and wojak memes
I mean, those two get spammed a lot, but 70 unique ones per month?
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>>438345830
What are you, poor?
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>>438375087
Then by that logic neither is PoE.
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>>438375420
You're right it's not. The point is mobile F2P games doesn't have the same monetization schemes anywhere near comparable to F2P outliers like PoE and Fortnite.
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>>438375280
Satania's breasts are much bigger than they are portrayed in this image, this artist needs to step it up.
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>>438375702
Pretty much.
>Make a good game
>Add a way to dress up your character as part of a microtransaction system
Acceptable - more than acceptable actually since the core of it is a good game.
>Make a game
>Tie core mechanics of that game into the microtransaction system
Unacceptable.

But the latter is far easier to make, and likely easier to generate profits for. Gotta get that dopamine fix by paying $5 to get 200% stronger in a game where you need to be 200000000% stronger to get to end game.
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>>438376009
I've been thinking of playing PoE, is it at all possible to buy the cosmetic items without paying real money or is that your only choice?
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>>438374605
It really is ironic because if I were to use this exchange as an example of anyone genuinely believing what you said, they will tell me you were just baiting for replies
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>>438345830

>Don't you people have the last IPhone™?
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>>438376205

Not him, but paying is the only way and you will want to pay a little bit for quality of life anyway (i.e. tabs).
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>>438376280
>Spanish
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>>438376205
I never played it a ton, but last I read there's no way at all to get the stuff in the store for free, except by maybe watching some of their Twitch streams? Most of the free cosmetics you get in it I believe I read are from doing league challenges and races, but since I never took part in them I'm not sure on the specifics of that. Those rewards aren't supposed to be in the store either though, so you have to work for them in-game.
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>Dude just get a $800+ phone so you can play this

No thanks, I always pick the bottom barrel phones because I hardly use it
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>>438376389

Top 10 Most Spoken Languages in the World

Mandarin Chinese (1.1 billion speakers) ...
English (983 million speakers) ...
Hindustani (544 million speakers) ...
Spanish (527 million speakers) ...
Arabic (422 million speakers) ...
Malay (281 million speakers) ...
Russian (267 million speakers) ...
Bengali (261 million speakers)
Portuguese (229 million speakers)
French (229 million speakers)

We are coming despacito for your culo
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>>438376523
Add onto that $800 phone the fact that most cell phone companies force you to get a data plan alongside a smartphone. At least I know AT&T does it, and I'm told Verizon and Sprint do as well. So throw in another $60-100+ per month after for said data plan, because lol fuck you.
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>>438372227
>arbitrary
That word doesn't mean what you think it does.
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>>438376617
>Hindustani
Freaking poos.
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>>438345830
People wanted Diablo 4, this isn't Diablo 4.
It's not quantum physics. There's nothing to understand.
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How they will monetize Diablo 4:
>pets
>special armor set transmogs
>banners
>a capped number of times you can get a special loot box per week (3 times total earned in-game, one extra time pay only)
>new classes
>new dungeons
>certain runes can only be bought, never found
>extra bag space
>extra inventory space

All after you bought the 60 dollar game. And people will pay.
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>>438345830
This shit < TES Blades
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>>438355786
>Hearthstone
>completely playable without putting in any money
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>>438345902
Also didnt they get the fact that these players make their own PCs to play these games at top notch graphics and performance? Can a phone do what a 2,500 dollar PC can do?
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>>438354294
>(Kassandra, or Alexios if you’re basic)
Is he making fun of homosexual men? That's pretty homophobic.
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>>438376205
You can get free cosmetics that are exclusive and can't be bought in the shop every new league by completing the challenge milestones
usually this is a hat, a cloak/wing attachment and a portal effect respectively
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>>438345902
This, and the fact that its a gotcha game
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>>438378524
>gotcha
Lol
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>>438377504
don't forget consumables with buffs and on-the-spot revivals
those are staples of shitty p2w games
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>DONT YOU HAVE A PHONE???

Phones can hardly even handle facebook and tablets can't even handle mobile games.
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>>438378517
Ech, this sounds a lot like the thing that's catching on with a lot of games including Fortnite where you have to play like hell each season if you don't want to miss items that can never be obtained again and they try to make it "fair to everyone" by not making it obtainable with real money but the end result is that you need to either live in the game and never stop playing it if you want those items or else come to terms with the fact that there will always be items you'll never, ever have.
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>>438359356
t. Obese
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>>438373414
You answered your own question
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>>438360720
>So I see why mobile games succeed
I don't think you do. All this nonsense about how "they want to play an hour a day and that's it" is irrelevant because you can easily accomplish that without the superfluous stamina systems or carrot-on-a-stick progression peppered with convenient microtransactions.

Of course this means actually putting a price tag on your game and that's not supported by the mobile market. Mobile games succeed because they're free and conveniently playable without buying a dedicated game device while relying on the <10% of the playerbase to make uncapped in game purchases with the <1% to mortgage their house in order to be top of the rankings or pull their a rare jpg of their favorite waifu. You can sit there and say "they're all just idiots!" but ultimately you're playing something that is demonstrably engineered to make money off of idiots instead of the hundreds of other quality games that respect your time, so what does that make you?
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>>438379087
while your point is true, in PoE's case the seasonal 'free' MTX items are very sub par in terms of quality to the store ones.
I don't really know if that's good or bad, since you feel less bad about missing out on something that isn't great to begin with, but on the other hand the rewards are greatly diminished for people to strive towards them
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>>438351043
>peace be upon him
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>>438380957
Rather have a free game with microtransactions than a paid game that STILL FUCKING HAS MICROTRANSACTIONS.
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>>438345902
It's like when Nintendo released Metroid prime federation force
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>>438354294
Well he’s not wrong. If you aren’t picking female in every single game, you are doing it wrong.
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>>438381273
Luckily there are plenty of games without microtransactions, and coincidentally enough nearly all of the good ones are paid. Because even a paid game with microtransactions is 100000000x more likely to be balanced without favoring microtransactions compared to a free game with microtransactions balanced for paying players, you know the actual game's customers.
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>>438345830
Oh, they have phones. They just don't want to use them as a primary gaming device.
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>>438345830
Big event like Blizzcon is not a place to announce a mmobile game and nothing else. Blizzard's customers are traditionally pc gamers and ... They should have announced the immortal some other time instead of ruining the customer's weekend completely.
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>>438346941
And TIME-GATING which Blizzard seems to love a lot. I hope the backlash will make them to suffer.
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>>438381680
Jason Schreier: The Most Secretly Based Man Of All Time
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>>438381593
On the bright side they did gradually announce 4 so I'm glad it flopping did not stop a new Prime game from happening.

Side note, how did people feel about Samus Returns? Never really looked at the reaction to that.
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>>438381898
The 'announced' D4 as damage control and if Jason is to be believed it's having similar developmental problems like D3 was and it was a mess at launch.
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>>438350310
The guy doesn't have any backbone. He's a spineless wet noodle and I would love to beat him up.
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>>438382291
I'm talking about Prime 4 actually, I don't care about Diablo.
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>>438382552
My bad. I just tabbed backed to this thread without really looking up.
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>>438382291
Probably because they pulled their best developers to work on mobile games.
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>>438347091
f2p mobile is bait for idiots and you're a prime example.
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>>438345830
nobody outside of china wants to play something on a fucking phone
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>>438383174
Sure, buddy.
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>>438383347
Prove me wrong.
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>>438350595
He's not going to tell you because it doesn't exist.
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>>438349984
>The right wingers on CNN shout "orange man good"
BS. Even half the faggots on Fox News talk shit about Trump, on CNN it's an argument between leftie nutbars talking about how Trump is Hitler and should be tarred and feathered and 'republicans' saying he's Mussolini and should be fired from a cannon. It's all bullshit.
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>>438384171
>Even half the faggots on Fox News talk shit about Trump
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>>438347272
Thinking should be banned
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Phone games are cash grabs. Pc games for fun.
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>>438384393
Sure, buddy.
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>>438345830
>Jason Schreier
Die.
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>>438384342
>>438384171
TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN
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>>438349173
what a little faggot
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Well sage'd, faggot
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>>438384454
>>438384909
>>438384961
>>438385057
>all these newfags announcing sage and thinking they can get away with it

DESPERATE
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>>438349671
You must be watching a different CNN then.
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>>438345830
It's not that fucking hard to fucking understand, Blizzcon is a special event that people, fans pay with their fucking wallets to attend, not to mention hotel and travel prices along with that. People at blizzcon are not phone gamers, they are PC gamers, they want PC games.
In addition, blizzard was hyping up "multiple diablo projects" earlier this year, only to deliver this fucking travesty
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>>438387390
Yeah, that just means they're entitled, duh. What, is the company just supposed to bend over backward for some desperate neckbeards with more money than common sense? Hah!
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>>438375280
Still hoping for industrywide ban of microstransaction that would wipe all this mobile garbage from existence.
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>>438349568
i'll sell you this car, sir, tires are not included tho, you have to buy them separately, hope you're good with that
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Bump
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I remember when bait took effort but now you can just pretend to be retarded non-stop until someone snaps.
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>>438387512
After this fans may consider that the franchise and the company aren’t worth their money if they feel mistreated.
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>>438389807
None of that will matter because the mobile game will generate more money than the entirety of the Diablo franchise.
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>>438389947
You can’t say this with certainty, the core fan base feels isolated and mobile games being picked up by the general public and generating the money Activision is seeking is never guaranteed. The game will probably make some money, but not the amount expected.
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>>438345830
most of them were/are drama watchers

didnt you notice it. its a fake outrage. everybody in mutt land does it
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>>438347080
>previously made a huge joke out of phone games
>only ever announce big games at blizzcon
wow golly gee should've realized they would reveal a phone game at blizzcon
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>>438347834
Why the fuck not use words instead of posting a fucking Rebus puzzle?
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>>438390252
Why does he lecture in taco language?
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>>438390252
>look I'm being subtly racist xD
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>>438383739
Don't need to. Everyone knows you're wrong.
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>>438345830
Diablo fans are mostly boomers that don't want to accept that console and PC gaming are dead and that mobile games are the future.
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>>438345902
worse, a chink phone game.
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>>438394028
Keep deluding yourself, tard.
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>>438395760
>n-no you!
Yikes. I'll take this as you admitting defeat, I suppose.
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>>438373482
Will Laren is the artist
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>>438395926
Wow you really are delusional. Way to prove me right lmao.
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>>438396376
>n-n-n-n-no you!
Do you really have nothing better? This is pitiful.
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>>438396527
>He's stuck repeating the same stuttering greentext
Alright guys leave him be, the boy's gone stupid.
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>>438345902
Yeah they expected 4, maybe remaster of the 2, or at least some shit for 3rd. But instead the got toilet game.
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>>438358253
I always despised blizzard and this shit just gives me more reasons to hate them, cry more
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>>438396630
Alright, so I guess you have admitted defeat. That was easy.
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>>438373159
Arguably Blizzard as we know it was wrong from the very beginning. All of the classic gems were done by Blizzard North, which was a separate studio that was absorbed whose staff have all left the company.
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>>438347080
You understand the psychological ploy at work in a F2P game, right?

The game has to annoy you or waste your time in such a way that you will pay for the privilege of not having to play it. The problem is, any game that makes you want to not play it has to compete with the zero-cost solution always available to you (which is “stop playing the game and play something else”)

So what the game has to do is, it has to try to make itself into a habit of yours. Something that becomes a natural part of your daily routine. Once you stop perceiving it as an activity you participate in for entertainment, and start perceiving it as just something you do every day (like brushing your teeth or taking a shower), THEN the game starts to make itself into an inconvenience you will pay to skip. Gradually at first, but the longer you play, the more it will do it, until eventually you are trapped in a joyless skinner box that you recognize but are powerless to leave.

Every F2P game that has the financial legs to do it showers you in free shit for daily log-ins for the first 3 months or so of expected play time because that’s how it gets you hooked. Then the time-waste-reward curves backward and you start getting a greater and greater degree of inconvenience just as the game starts to feel more and more like a routine instead of a game.

It’s a powerful, fucked-up trick that works even when you recognize it’s being done to you.

t. Warframe player
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>>438395760
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>>438397123
>somehow having this problem with Warframe when it has no real grind and the only "daily" is literally just logging in that day
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>>438397123
I was legitimately going to say Warfame is exactly like that, then I read the spoiler.
Yeah, it's all bullshit psychology and social engineering. We could talk at length about more games turning to multiplayer because a network of peer pressure keeping you online is far more powerful than any viral campaign or login bonus.

I know far, far too many people who say "FO76 is probably gonna be shit, but I have friends who are going to play so I may as well get in." It's going to be like League of Legends, EVERYONE fucking hates it, but no one quits because they're kept in line by friends and what's socially acceptable.
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>>438397698
No seriously, how are you people having this problem with Warframe? I had no trouble dropping that game because it's not even a consecutive login, you just get the bonus whenever. So eventually I stopped bothering.
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HUH?
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>>438349204
>Good work, 47. Now find an exit.
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You realize that a gamer is an NPC when they suddenly start defending freemium smartphone game after Blizzard's current fiasco with Diablo Immortal
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>>438400438
You realize that this poster is a retard forcing the latest brainlet meme.
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>>438400531
Whatever, cuck
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>>438400586
>Whatever, cuck
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>>438345830
have you ever tried playing a game on a phone for more than a 15 minute period? shit gets hot, fast, because they doesn't have sufficient cooling for more than minor average use.
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>>438397123
Maybe it's my magical autist powers but this hook doesn't work on me.
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>>438347069
Exactly, it's like announcing a new mainline starcraft is being made but it's a PSVR game only.
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>>438400875
Perhaps your brain is different than everyone else's. It's possible.
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>>438345830
SAME AS EA FUCKED UP WITH C&C.
Funny how everyone was ok hating EA after the C&C mobile fiasco, but now that Blizzard DOES THE *EXACT* SAME SHIT, every faggot is butthurt that hating on Blizzard for this no brainer is bad.

Fun to see that the rest of the (gamejournalist) world is also reporting not very positive about Blizzard and is mostly on the side of the gamers. Just US-Cucks like always does the exact different thing.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU AMERIKEKS? SERIOUSLY!
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>>438345830
Phones are not for gaming.
Phones are for texting, making calls and for shitposting while you take a shit
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>>438345830
>We announced a highly anticipated game to the casual market in front of a group of our most hardcore fans to which we announced nothing

Does it really need to be more complicated than that? They got complacent and thought that just because these were people paying money to see the presentation that they'd lap up anything put in front of them.
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>interviewing their own journalists for artificial facts
>American gaming journalism 2018

Just wow. Seriously what the fuck.
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>>438345830
I have a decent phone and downloaded crusaders of light, which diablo immortal is a re-skin of just to see how well it runs and it runs like ass. I'm not upgrading my mobile to play a shit money grabbing, shallow version of diablo 3.
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>>438345902
But don't they have phones??!
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>>438401924
There are quite a few countries with almost "no phones":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_mobile_phones_in_use





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