>Disco Elysium>Inspired by Communism>Entire studio collapses, everyone all hates each other, everyone fractures into their own new companies all claiming to be the true successor to the gameIt's like poetry, it rhymes...
>>725837040I fucking love how they awkwardly and talentlessly try to emulate Disco Elysium's prose. There's like 5 of those now and each of them is similarly hilarious
>>725837578The real question is how they all even managed to put together something people liked in the first place
>>725838040these two fuckseveryone else around them was either hacks (other writers) or disposable (programmers, designers etc.)
>>725837040Kimmy hotwife who fucks her clients behind my back
>>725837578Those five are from, in some way, remnants of the OG team. There are other unrelated games as well.
>>725838235Asmongold and Spoony?
>>725838382>There are other unrelated games as well.and those seem to be the interesting ones. like esoteric ebb, for example.
>>725837040>>> /lit/
>>725837040you don't even know the full backstory which is even more hilarious>main writer is literally a failed novelist>the guy who brought in the money to finance it did so by selling his ferrari and having his parents help fund it >same rich guy also tried to subvert a state owned news company to shill socialist ideology, got caught and then was blacklisted >rich guy again backstabbed everyone so he could fuck off to London to hang out with cooler and more wealthy communists
>>725838729>Ettir, City-Sworn Angelvery Zanzibar-esquethe unholy fusion of miyazaki type hackery with tasteless disco elyisum worship isn't something we've seen before I think
>>725838382Any DE knockoff that isn't rooted in Communism just won't hit the same.
>>725839110You forgot the funniest part that their communist propaganda was extremely unpopular in their own homeland because Estonia had to suffer through the soviet era first hand. When CCCP collapsed, Estonia was a 3rd world country left in ruins, who also had their neighbours and culture cousin Finland constantly remind them how shitty the whole soviet system was.After 35 years Estonia is finally around the same life quality level as Finland, all thanks to that evil capitalism.
>>725839698>picI never understood this argument, do you think Capitalism = Money or something? China has iphones and starbucks too. Why would being a Communist mean you can't purchase things?
>>725839949>Why would being a Communist mean you can't purchase things?Money and means of work belong to the people. If the bitch is hogging the money for herself to buy herself expensive luxuries, that goes against everything that proletarianism stands for. Why is she not using that money to feed the poor instead? That money belongs to the people.
>>725839949Did China have iphones and starbucks before they opened up the capitalist zones?
>>725840295Every Communist country to ever exist has had money. You clearly never read Marx.
>>725839949because the biggest shills of communism are typically white, middle or upperclass, and have never worked a day in their life. I had a roomate exactly like that in college and he would tell me with a straight face that his job was moderating some tranny's twitch chat (he wasn't being paid to do this).
>>725840595>because the biggest shills of communism are typically white, middle or upperclass, and have never worked a day in their life.that's a fair point, though by this point even poor people have access to macbooks. it's not exactly a sign of luxury outside of the third world. it's like calling someone bourgeois for having a smartphone when 95% of Americans have one.
>>725839949The entire concept of communism is removing excess and giving that to the poor so more people are equal by force via the government The end product literally every time is now everyone is poor except the 1% government officials
>>725840508nobody besides the corrupt, incompetent party politicians had money, everything belongs to the state, people starved and they all went bankrupt.
>>725837040>>725839110That's why some DE fans say the downfall of ZA/UM is the most Disco thing possible in that situation. If there had been no drama and Kurvitz and Rostov had remained it would have been a pretty boring end
>>725837040>Inspired by CommunismHow so?
>>725837040>everyone all hates each other, everyone fractures into their own new companies all claiming to be the true successor to the gameHoly shit it's just like The Boss' legacy...
>>725840876>The entire concept of communism is removing excess and giving that to the poor so more people are equal by force via the governmentNo the entire concept of Communism is "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need."Communism is not a utopian ideology, it is one based in meritocracy, and removing exploitation.
>>725840428I sure hope you aren't implying that the Soviet never had computer's.
>>725841126https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0
>>725839949>do market capitalism>call it communism>this tricks imbeciles like you into thinking it is communism, because they said it is!I mean, china does stuff besides market capitalism but still differs from western capitalistic economies in some aspects, like lacking democracy and giving 0 shits about human rights to have slaver workers. If you think it is not market capitalism but those 2 factors (the only ones that are properly communist) the ones responsible for their success, be my guest and go live there, you fucking ass clown.
>>725841126Blah blah blah You can give it as many nice definitions as possible the actual real world applications is just fascism with another flavor.The ultra wealthy government officials in charge of everything while everyone else is broke at their mercy Joseph Stalin and his lackeys were not in the shitty unheated apartments with their comrades
>>725841126>to each according to his needDo you believe people have an essential need for MacBooks and iPhones?
>>725841287>like lacking democracy and giving 0 shits about human rights to have slaver workers. But enough about America
>>725837578Pictured: Disco Elysium’s prose.
>>725841361if it wasn't for the voice acted narration, no one would give a shit
>>725841287>do market capitalism>call it communism
I've always been fascinated by this particular picture of the devs of Gone HomeLike it's pretty fucking funny already if it's self aware, but then you start asking yourself if there's any indication that they're capable of that level of self parody and then holy fuck
>>725840508>Every Communist country to ever exist has had money.Soviet Union and Mao's China both suffered through top 3 worst famines in human history. Khmer Rouge shot any cambodian who had any money whatsoever. Soviet Union went bankrupt and collapsed. In communist systems you only got rewarded if you worked hard, this woman is sitting at Starbucks instead of working at fields, therefore she doesn't deserve a Starbucks coffee, she deserves a beating and no food for the rest of the day.
>>725841361What's the problem here?
>>725841361sometimes I feel like an alien when I state I found DE's writing to be meh. Sometimes its good, but most of the times its like what you see in that pic. But I am told its the best writing in vidya (despite the head writing being a failed novelist).
>>725839461>communism is so goated it turned a boring reddit-coded walking simulator VN into the best videogame ever madeholy based...
>>725841526>In communist systems you only got rewarded if you worked hard, this woman is sitting at Starbucks instead of working at fields, therefore she doesn't deserve a Starbucks coffee, she deserves a beating and no food for the rest of the day.how do you know she isn't working?
>>725841393I'll never understand the specific kind of person who spends half their day calling Trump a dictator and the other half wishing America had a decisive progressive leader like XiHow do those people not literally die from the self contradiction, it reminds me of atheists who prefer Islam to Christianity
>>725841141>analogue computerslol
>>725841361>dIsCo ElYsIUM cRItiCiZes aLl SiDEs eQuaLly
I still don't know what companies were created after ZA/UM's collapse, which dev is in which one, and whether they've released any game yet or not. What a shitshow.
>>725841393>doesn't read the post>posts non sequitur selfie of himself It is funny how you refuted nothing of what I said, but feel entitled to act all smug. No wonder being a clown is you life calling, you are hilarious.>>725841357America conditions might be shit, but in doesn't make lazy people go to work at gunpoint. if they did, you would be doing something with your worthless life instead of annoying actual people online.
>>725841664Christianity is so hateful>Entire Quran and Hadiths are about killing, raping, and oppressing everyone not Muslim>and the time Muhammad was buck broken in the sweltering deserts of Arabia
>>725841664I don't think Trump is a dictator.I also don't think Xi is a dictator.What now?
>>725841637>how do you know she isn't working?She's sitting at Starbucks. Thats not working. She should be working in the fields or in factories.
>>725841361To be fair, it takes a very high IQ to appreciate Disco Elysium’s prose.
>>725841780Don't get me wrong here, I get the secular perspective overall, but I don't get how any atheist could say Islam is the *lesser* evil when its worst parts are basically 12th Century Christianity: Dante Must Die ModeGuys like Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens acknowledge this obvious statement and it somehow makes the "atheist community" at large exile them. It happening to Dawkins is especially amusing because I remember him being the atheist pope but now he's just a dirty Islamophobic bigot.
>>725841664Idk how extreme anti government people also tend to be commiesIt literally makes no sense, are they confused? Communism is not some abstract idea of village lifeIt just hand over all power to the government and let them enforce literally everything that you apparently hate Do people think under communism that literally the fry cook at one McDonald's ocation now owns .0000000001% of mc Donald's?Uh no the government owns it
>>725839698Belive me Neocommie retardation hits even In exsoviet states. For example here we have Some weirdos who say that Polish Peoples Republic was better. Because you could get a flat or car from the state. Who cares that you had to wait 13 years for any of these. (Unless you had friends in THE PARTY). Or industry. Yea factories on hardcore debt producing things noone wanted to buy. I blame western commies for polluting our youth even here.
>>725841563Problem? It’s simply an example of Disco Elysium’s brilliant and subtle dialogue.
>>725841126>to each according to his needThat bitch doesn't need a thousand dollar macbook or a sugar and syrup frape. She is wasting resources and also didn't work for that shit. She got that through her parents who are withholding and hoarding capital for themselves and their own. For the money that was spent on her bullshit the government could have distributed the wealth to those that truly need it like the poor and hungry.
>>725842023>12th Century Christianity: Dante Must Die Modeit wasn't even that badhyper christianity was in response to the east and west split with muslims bordering the christian realm for half a millennia at that point
>>725842078>polack thinks his opinion is worth any shitlmao, go back to your regular IPN martyrdom hitler goonsesh
When did Communism and Capitalism become the only two options?
>>725841664>>725842023Atheists in 2000's-early 2010's were more of a counter movement to evengelical fervour supported by Then rulling Republicans like Bush and Cheney(rip). This created this weird double standard with Islam
>>725841126>No the entire concept of Communism is "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.">according to his needYou think an Iphone is something that people need? According to that definition, only thing that people need are 3x3 apartment block, two daily ration with one piece of meat being weekly item, 8 pair clothes and a shoe.
>>725842335It's not that complexMuslims are brown and atheists are lefties who worship brown people
>>725842334Blame Cold War. This is also why Islamic Revolution in Iran was such a suprise to both sides really.
>>725842334Because all political opinions are on a spectrum based on freedom of the individual with those two being the ends. America isn't even that capitalist with how many training wheels the government puts on businesses so they can't fail and how much of my wages are taken from me for social programs Anyone who tries to complicate it more than that has no idea what is even happening
>>725842334Name one that isn't one of those two, then.
>>725842334Communists are just honest socialistsFascists are just honest communistsThere's not much left
>>725839698retarded chihuahua lmao
>>725841361The funniest part is that it accurately portrays what it is like to ask a leftist what exactly fascism is? They can never give a straight answer and fall back on "IT HATES WOMENS AND GAYS AND NON WHITES". Hilarious self own.
>>725837040>>Disco Elysium>>Inspired by Communism>>Entire studio collapses, everyone all hates each other, everyone fractures into their own new companies all claiming to be the true successor to the game>is one of the greatest games of all timecommunism W
>>725842401>doesn't know what needs arewow...
>>725842539did you know commies tried to co-opt that particular revolution too?
>>725842668i mean, the game was written by an unironic commie incapable of admitting communism doesn't work it's just the people who ruin it
Remember how Vallha11a's devs had to flee Venezuela when the game made $20,000Imagine $20,000 being the amount that gets you declared a bourgeoisie enemy of the state where you are essentially ordered "give me all your money and then die in jail pig"No human being should ever have $20,000I really like that story because it's both vidya related and it's a concrete number without a thought experiment
>>725841637She is doing no work. Work(the scientific term) requires movement. No movement, no work. No work, no labor. No labor, no value. She is not generating any value and as such has no value.
>>725837040It's communist in the truly literate sense that knows it will never work, and is so beaten down by historical failure that it no longer advocates for it.It punishes all pathology it can detect.
>>725842023For me it's Christopher "Hitch" Hitchens being the bastion of free thinking, fueled on science, maths, and logic chad, but refusing to acknowledge the scientific, mathematical, and logistical problems with the H*l*caust because he's actually J*wish.
>>725842668I’d like to see the stats for how many European women under Nazi rule were raped compared to how many are raped nowadays due to mass immigration.
>>725842836>She is not generating any value and as such has no value.so programmers don't generate any value?
>>725842575Retard.
>>725842790Based, fuck independent game developers.
>>725842678there is zero definition of "needs" that includes an iphone.
>>725842885most rapes were done by Soviets
>>725842790Dekulakization involved killing anyone who ever owned more than six acres of land, a tractor, or hired an employeeAnd that was mild compared to Khmer Rouge who literally killed anyone who had eyeglasses
>>725843002deserved btw
>>725842989>i have a need for an iphone (the only good smartphone model after 18 years btw)there you go. This is an iPhone need.
>>725842078Seen one of these the other day>Someone posts a pic of the state doled food allowance>Commies talking about how great it is and how it's more than enough to last a person a week>Except it's for a family>And has to last them a month>Deny this when it's pointed out to them>Claim the OP is a fake image when they get shown actual proof and the actual proof is equally fake to back up the OPThey should all be gassed.
>>725842989ok listen to me you fucking naziI could get a phone that let's me do my job for 200 dollars but I want that sweet iPhone for 1000 dollars to post communist memes withfuck. you. EAT THE RICH
>>725843047fuck off jidf
>>725842857kek
>>725842790Isn't Maduro's net worth like $4 billion
>>725839698>we should improve society somewhat>yet you participate in it!
>>725842897No, programming is a bourgeois role that does nothing but consume grain. Code doesn't feed anyone and only consumes more resources(electricity and time). Get in mines or get in the fields.
>>725839110>Estonia>Radical leftistHow the FUCK does that even happen? That's like a Hamas member being for women's rights and protecting homosexuals.
>>725842962No I'm correct, people who try to make politics more complicated than the base form tend to be the ones in the dark on what things actually mean and what ideas actually produce which should be the main goal of political discourse.It's why we now have people getting political science degrees for 8 years coming out more retarded than they went in.Everything comes down to how much control you give the central power
>>725842790The punchline is that they're still socialists
>>725839949>Why would being a Communist mean you can't purchase things?If you yourself can't even try to be less of CONSUMERIST WHORE why even pretend you're a real commie. Just admit that you're doing for fashion or because you hate your daddy.
>>725843002I think the Japs gave them a run for their moneyLess of them thoughPer capita would be more interesting
>>725843250retardation, anonretardation
>>725843232all jews and germans deserve to be raped to deathproblem, germcuck?
>>725842790$20,000 is more money than the average Venezuelan worker will make in 40 years
>>725843284No, thinking about everything being between two sides that haven't existed for most of history just makes you a retard.
>>725842078>USSR times>you are around polish people>people claim it was nightmare>USA times>now you are around arabs, negro, paki, etc.>people claim it's the best time to be aliveand then polish people act surprised when Hitler considered them to be lesser race
>>725843245>Everyone else should give their money to poor and work selflessly for the system!>Except me of course.
>>725843232Kek
>>725843386Consumerism is good.>The less you eat, drink and buy books; the less you go to the theatre, the dance hall, the public house; the less you think, love, theorise, sing, paint, fence, etc., the more you save – the greater becomes your treasure which neither moths nor rust will devour – your capital.>>725843496An accomplished, educated women can't even find a job. Of course it failed in this scenario.
>>725839949Capitalism is the generation of capital on any wider scale. This includes the individuals in society such as yourself. If you have any amount of savings, you have generated capital and are thus a Capitalist. You are not working class under the rules of Communism, in which you are merely given the necessities to survive. So basically you live in a state-controlled bed share/commune. You will be given a roof over your head, a bed, and any necessary tools to be able to complete your work. That's it.
>>725843386>communism is when no iphones or laptops
>>725843481American spotted
>>725842857It's pretty crazy how he was full-on "BOMB THE RAGHEADS KILL ALL MUSLIMS NOW AMERICA DID NOTHING WRONG ARAB GENOCIDE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE" and not one liberal atheist complained about that because they were mesmerized by his atheist rhetoric
>>725839949Capitalism is fine but needs strict regulation or its dogshit. That's why clapistan is such a shit hole
>>725843332Reminds me how Hasan got stopped by the police in China and they forcibly searched his phone and person and threated him to turn off the camra while they did it and afterward he STILL said they were really nice and better than American Cops(which he has had 0 total confrontations with).
>>725843764jewish privelege
>>725843461>>725842790Wasn't there a time when Runescape gold digging was a more assured form of gathering capital? RUNESCAPE
>>725843686see>>725843194also Apple does some pretty nasty stuff in its chinese factories but it's ok :)
>>725843467Except they have? monarchy and village leaders are also on the spectrum . Everything is based on how much power the central government controls idiot.It's why people are confused about nazis being socialist"Oh how could that be isn't it the opposite of communism?"No it's the same fucking shit, all power to the government. It's the only metric that matters in any political system and if you don't understand that you simply will never
>>725843826A lot of leftist political ideology just comes down to fuck whitey because they got brainwashed by muh nobel savage in 4th grade history classIt's why they are on Gaza sideJews aren't white but they are a bit paler
>>725843686Yes, unironically this.It's a luxury item that performs the same exact task as item that costs 20% of its price while both cost the exact same to manufacture.Communism is unironically when no iphones or macbooks.
>>725844041>It's a luxury item that performs the same exact task as item that costs 20% of its price while both cost the exact same to manufacture.No, they don't. iPhones cost 10 times as much to make as your regular ass wigger-tier motorola.
>>725843826>brownoid gets searched because he has a terroist namekek based
>>725837040>no option to ask if you can lick her feetShit game desu.
>>725843897Then you're not talking about just communism and capitalism, retard.
>>725843664>An accomplished, educated women can't even find a job.Fake accomplishments. A good communist only cares about government set quotas for food and steel productions. Bad communists don't get to eat.
>>725844147>iPhones cost 10 times as much to make as your regular ass wigger-tier motorola.They don't. You just have to tell yourself that because otherwise you have to admit you're a moron for paying a premium for a logo.
>>725841612You have to remember that the people you're talking to are almost always commies, and so expecting them to understand art is like expecting an ant to understand why taking the sugar cube off your counter is a bad idea.
>>725844227Nigga do you know what a spectrum means? It's not binary, no shit theirs others on it dumbassWhy the fuck do you think you have any right to talk about politics if you're this retarded.Genuinely?
>>725844147>No, they don't. iPhones cost 10 times as much to make as your regular ass wigger-tier motorola.Okay, first of all, no it doesn't, and two, who the fuck is buying Motorola in 2025? Is your phone brand knowledge stuck in 2008?
>>725841612>>725844347People were just wowed about the whole concept that rising from a chair in a wrong way in an adventure game can result in a game over.
>>725844348Nigger, you said that your memespectrum was based on capitalism and communism being at the very ends of both, which is retarded monkey nonsense.
>help mr. government my neighbor bought an expensive phone, make us all poor pleaseBrilliant political idolgy
>>725843481>invaded foreign country who doesnt want you there>surprised picatchu people hate your gutsyou are right but the russians are the niggers in your story, desu they still are, according to all metrics Russia is an african tier shithole
>>725842897Of course not, didn't you see how many programmers had a melty cause AI can already code better than some script kiddie? They're disposable just like all these fake jobs
>>725844439Truly, a pinnacle of achievement. What a shame they never played Zork.
>>725839698How about a "papers please" type game where you liquidate these people and they have absolutely no idea what they did to deserve it right up until the bullet enters their brain.
>>725842836she's probably a spy sent to keep an eye on party memebers by infatuating herself with suspected dissenters or other political liabilitiesunder communism one of the best ways to utilize women is as prostitutes or as sexually coersive elements
>>725844549Nobody hates Russians more than it's neighbors
>>725844439pretty muchthe praise for DE's writing is moreso just people admiring the novelty of how diverse the choices can go. The actual writing itself is just alright.
>>725839110why is it always rich white dudes who fall for the commie grifting
>>725842334Communism to be fair, isn't even real, the meme of 'its never been tried before' doesn't work because the system itself is flawed at a fundementally incapable of functioningCapitalism is the observation of how wealth creation actually works, specifically the observations of Adam Smith.The problem with Communism as outlined by Marx and Engles is that Marx and Engles themselves never worked a day in their lives, both were the 19th century versions of nepo babies, the only jobs they ever had was factory managers where they sat in an office getting drunk and reading books all day. So its very easy for them to make assumptions on labor because they never worked a day in their lives. There is no such thing as "each according to their ability, each according to their needs" because this fundementally avoids a major component to basic civilization: the desire for something better. I worked retail, and I worked back breaking ball busting hard labor, I would work back breaking ball busting hard labor any day because it pays better, but if I got the same pay as a burger flipper or retail worker, I wouldn't do it, which is why ever communist state needed forced labor to get anything done.
>>725844735>why is it always rich white dudesWhat the hell are you talking about?
>>725844735No hard work and idle time makes the human soul suffer.People uniorionically cry about working 8 hrs a day half of that spent doom scrolling before they go home and eat whatever they want and binge watch whatever while doom scrolling or playing some game for another 6 hoursIdle hands our the devils playthings
>>725837040Can you just steal a character from a popular tv show like that with no repercussions?
>>725844735Because rich kids already have all their basic needs and everything they could ever want handed to them on a silver platter, they have no purpose in life cause they never had to struggle or have the satisfaction of earning things by your own hard work and this causes them to seek validation and purpose somewhere else to fill the void in their soulsIt's quite pathetic really, if you want to help the world fund an NGO or something
>>725844014Like I know what site we're on Le fuck Jews but it's crazy how rabid leftists are at Israel when the current conflict started with their enemies killing and raping a bunch of civvies at a music concert And like out of the last 6 conflicts 4 of them they were attacked first You can still hate Israel but you would think their would be slightly more nuance that the people who keep wanting to exterminate their enemies maybe aren't fully in the right
>>725837040>post stalin communism >not based juche pseudo-monarchy either Doomed to fail.
>>725844790You forgot the other big problem communism has:Because people are not unified in their goals, you have to force them to work for the same goals by managing every aspect of society. That is impossible even for rich countries, let alone shitholes like Russia or China. Theres too much chaos and variance in human societies for any governments to fully control. North Korea gave up long time ago and half-legalized 3 major black markets selling chinese goods (and illegal south korean goods). Only way communists could solve the problem would be chemical brainwashing of entire populations, similar to ant colonies.Capitalism as a system is not the best system out there, its the current best compromise where there are some measure limiting the society disrupting excesses of normal human chaos. Its not trying to control the chaos, its steering it towards less destructive directions.
>>725844735Not specifically wide dudes, its really issue with wealthy kids. I don't know what the exact catalyst is that makes certain people read marxism and think "Hey this is a good idea" but its almost always people who never worked a day in their lives.
>>725845325Leftoids being rabid about israel is built into the system and not a threat. The right wing (populares) threatening to turn on hebes is a threat, and cannot be accepted by the system. Antifa is almost solely a boon to the people in power.
>>725837040This game really makes me appreciate how good Disco was. It's so fucking insufferable I want to kill myself playing it. And that's just the badly handled time loop mechanic - when it starts reeeeally sniffing its own farts it's with the mental health and family drama writing. Holy shit. It's like you boiled down 100 "you need therapy" redditors into one stew. The "RPG elements" might as well not exist and just be a pure point and click. The characters are stereotypes with no depth, but the game very much wants you to believe it has depth.
>>725844402It's literally the go-to low budget phone in the US. They don't have Xiaomis there.
>>725837040Shoutout to Karl Marx!
>>725841459100% thats one of those places you can loan for a day for cheap for picture shootings and similiar things.God these two have such punchable faces. Was Gone home even an actual success? What did they make after
>>725845482several reasons>wealthy kids lack any kind of purpose because they don't need to work to improve their lot in life>it satisfies the dark urges these low iq narcissists have for emotionally manipulating people>its an easy skin to wear to seem like a good person>it makes you seem smart when you throw out economic jargon you don't really understand
>>725845482We must define modern socialism as different from its roots. There's no support for the actual proletariat in modern leftism. Also why rich kids support it, because having a large underclass of criminal browns and transsexuals is perfect work for the type of over-educated sociology majors etc. Homeless initiatives, all these rehabilitative justice initiatives, all they really are is a transfer of tax money from the working man to useless low tier elites. Make work.
>>725842668>ask a leftist what exactly fascism is? They can never give a straight answerHave you tried asking a fascist? >IT HATES WOMENS AND GAYS AND NON WHITES". Hilarious self own.Yeah that's pretty much what you get actually. The "smart" ones handwave something about Gentile, but have zero understanding of what a fascist system would even look like. Which is fair, since neither did the actual fascists. So what is modern fashy larping actually about? >uhh EVROPA uhh immigrants out uhh fucking blacks fucking jews uhh women need to be trad you fucking faggotsHrm sounds familiar.
>>725845784>There's no support for the actual proletariat in modern leftism.Good. Death to proletcult. Abolish classes altogether.
If you're a rentoid that shitposts about communism and estonia on fucking 4chan, you're probably a mutt that can't afford dental and votes for billionaires concerned about the working class
>>725846029Every country is massively importing India for cheap labor who are already used to class systems and will happily force an ant class
>>725846272Good. Indians deserve a better life in first world countries.
>>725839949China hasn't been communist in forever. They're capitalists.
>>725845746Do they not have Samsung's budget range? Or One+? Or literally any other better, cheap handset?
>>725846434>They're capitalistsNo. Their economy is controlled by the state.
>>725846029>abolish the one class with actual christian virtueLmao you cretin. You'd like that, wouldn't you?
>>725841563It's just another /v/ doesn't actually play any video games thing. People see stuff like the Endurance dialogue and assume it's meant to be some kind of feminist critique of real-life fascist ideologies when it's actually Harry struggling with the massive chip he's carrying on his shoulder (which has very little to do with any of the game's political factions, much less their real-life counterparts).
>>725846638Oneplus is mostly midrangers, Samsungs... Samsungs yes. Samsungs too. Whatever, it's an example.
>>725846987>he's actually coping>he said, coping
>>725846774Its half-controlled by the state. The whole "White cat and black cat both can catch a mouse"-rhetoric was what gave chinks some level of economic autonomy because other option was system inefficiency and starvation.
>>725845746Xiaomis are just better though, don't understand why anyone would ever pay triple for an Iphone just for a fucking logo
>>725842668>>725845972It's even funnier when you realise Harry sees ideology as a coping mechanism for his trauma. This is why the fascist thought opens with statements about women - because Harry is a divorcee who can't get over the fact his ex-wife left him. That's literally it
>>725847368>>725847064
>>725841126That's not its concept, but its "promise".Communism is just nationwide slavery and systemic oppression, dressed up with pretty words and false promises such as "owned by the people", and topped with a bow of "necessary authoritarianism".You're changing wealth inequality from a gradient to a binary, but saying it's better because the 1% is in the government now.
>>725847463>become an apparatchik post-purges>live like a boss for the rest of your lifeWow, such evil. Government ownership is... le totalitarian.
>>725847454Half of the thread is coping with their miserable lives by bringing up politics. Hell, half of 4chan even
Their entire story is what Tolkien said once "Evil can't create, they corrupt"
>>725847463it's fucking crazy how communism is just a thing marx thought up of that some slavic fucking retard took seriously and kept doubling down when it became apparent no one wanted what he was pushing
>>725847368>are women bourgeois?
>>725846406Very short sighted, the end goal is the whole world will just be a shitty 3rd world country than where will the Indians escape too next
>>725847368>the whole "political" message of the game is that obsession with politics is cope for when you can't deal with your actual life problems>a substantial portion of fans and most of the haters seem to miss it entirely
>>725846774Every economy is controlled by the state they exist in. If the US government agrees to shut you down, you get shut down, if your local politician wants you to pay them for a liscense, you pay them, or you replace them yourself.Main thing is that if any business wants to opperate in china, it needs a CCP party member in a controlling position at the company who is able to take control of the company at a given moment, where in the US they'd just shut you down and let your competition take your place.
>>725847463This is the truth It's why you can ask 10 different communities what it is and they give you 10 different explanations It's made up theatrics to disguise government control
>>725847809Because good governments will never allow true capitalism It's losing too much control of the situation
>>725838040Perfect Storm/Bottled LightningPassionate creatives who hated each other’s guts managed to buckle down long enough to get something amazing out the door
>>725845449"Free" (publicly subsidized) healthcare exists in most of the first world, you don't need to make up a non-existant communist totalitarian state
>>725848038>Because good governments will never allow true capitalismWe already tried that hundred or so years ago. Then De Beers ruined the fun for everyone with its diamond monopolies.
Do people think de is amazing? Really? The only good parts were the wacky schizophrenia bits
>>725838040To this day I am convinced Disco Elysium is a psyop, there is nothing interesting or redeeming about wasting your time with it.Maybe its because I have experienced real hardship in my life, natural disaster, homelessness, and the true kindness of others and real humanity that I can't connect to this self-lothing schitzo post pretending to be a game.
>>725848104I don't think I'll ever get tired of seeing commie retards like you call pathetic cuckold drunks and drug addicts "passionate creatives". Sure, they suffered for their "art", but what they produced is worth even less than AI jeet garbage.
>>725848145Funny you say that because Finland implemented its healthcare system precisely so communist propaganda leaking from the eastern border wouldn't cause another civil war again. The countries with free healthcare and education put their communists to concentration camps.
>>725837040>Inspired by Communismgame actually mocks communism the most, you just lack brainpower to compute that
>>725848189If a monopoly goes to far that people can no longer buy their luxury good it will naturally resolve itself And in every system people take advantage of knowing people to abuse it
>>725848282Then how does the comic you posted make sense?
>>725847584>thinks he'll be in charge of anythingIt'll be the do-nothing waste of air oligarchs with too many family connections. People who would already be in similar positions under capitalism.You, on the other hand? You'll be like everyone else. In a concrete box, where your only existence is to work.
>>725848223It's popular with the crowd who believe in things like subjective morality. For these kinds of "people", the belief is that your political alignment is not born of any kind of innate morality or logic, but it's like religion, if your parents were commies then you're either a commie or an anti commie to rebel against them.It's essentially the most terminally online view of class consciousness you can take, and quite possibly one of the most repulsive viewpoints on the human condition I've ever had the misery to experience. The only good part of DE is that it's very brief, probably because they were too busy getting drunk or high to do much work.
>>725848223>I have experienced real hardship in my lifePat yourself on the back
>>725848223I don't get it dude 80% of conversations in this game are incredibly boring, I think it's why when I see footage of the thing people only post about like Motorhead the chair or the two kids.>YOU GOTTA PLAY PEAK BRO>look inside >A really boring 20 minute conversation about how epic the 70s was from a 20 year old writerUhhhhh cool
>>725845769Gone Home sold 700,000 copies, incredible for an indie. It was objectively successful for something so simply made.Fortunately the game they made after that was more ambitious, sold less and put them out of business.Also apparently the founder was either a rapist or the people working for him decided he was a rapist after the company started losing money
>>725837040>work of culture taken over by a profiteering capitalist who prostitutes what's left of the work for moneyYes, it's accurate, but not in the way you think
>>725837040I mean i don't think communism ever truly collapsed. This is glorified modern Estonian agitprop after all. But I won't go too much into the details about 'post soviet' Estonia. Estonia is about as 'post soviet' as the Russian Federation. I will only mention that they've successfully infected the public consciousness with their marxist-Leninism and pro Stalinist brainwashing in a way that is far subtle than what it would be like if they were still openly communist like back in the 80s.
>>725844154He actually got stopped and searched for waving a phone around in Tiananmen Square, and the cop noticed a Mao meme on the screenHe was released ten minutes later because luckily for him it was an actual "Mao was fucking BASED meme"
>>725848298>it will naturally resolve itselfNo it doesn't. Nowhere in history is this the case. Monopolies are absolutely ready to starve populations to death if necessary.>>725848402>Then how does the comic you posted make sense?On the other side of the border in Stalin massacred all communist finns that fled inside Soviet Union during Great Purge. Some of them were asking Finland for help which they ignored.
>>725848798Follow up post so it makes sense.
>>725849068the only admirable thing about Stalin is how many communists he killed
>>725845769Success? Depends, as an actual game that has any relevance or player count, no.But their journo friends and shills praised to hell and highwater.
>>725849068Oh yeah, name literally a single timeThe worse economic event in a capitalist country was the great depression and that was caused by the general public being idiots and panicking Even now we are basically still in a monopoly filled world just now shell companies and friends pretending to compete but you don't see anyone starving from that
>>725849243He was an effective executive, he had "the right stuff" regarding securing power, a necessary amount of psychopathy for the time period in which he lived, he ruthlessly hunted and exterminated any subversives, which is admirable in any context. Don't know why one would hate or deride Stalin. He was much more effective than Hitler.
>>725838382>Real Disco Elysium has never been tried, but I'M going to make it work. >Real Disco Elysium has never been tried, but I'M going to make it work. >Real Disco Elysium has never been tried, but I'M going to make it work. >Real Disco Elysium has never been tried, but I'M going to make it work. >Real Disco Elysium has never been tried, but I'M going to make it work.
I'll just remind you that Netflix was considering giving their game a tv series adaptation. That's how close we are to Marxism being normalised. It already has been in some ways.
>>725841361that's pretty good thoughit's a brain-damaged alcoholic having a conversation with a head-mate he made out of his gut feelings, trying to come to terms with the awful state he's in including the separation with his ex-wifeit's not supposed to be rational
>>725849068>Stalin massacred a bunch of homosexual trotskyites who then fled to other countries to enact globalist neoconservativism>this is somehow a stain on Stalin
>>725849452KEK>>725849528disgusting
>>725849528Based if you ask me. Rightoids could never
>>725849438He survived entirely on US gibs and left to his own devices managed to make it ten miles into Finland, only losing a third of a million men, in Special Military Operation 1.0
>>725839949>Capitalism = MoneyCorrect.
>>725849438The entire reason the Soviets weren't an absolute joke was support from the west with land lease and supplies aiding their entire eastern front, but Stalin the nigger instead took some weird stance that they were the only ones to had the balls to say no to facist nazis and everyone else was le secretly scared when the faggot literally tried to be allies with them to split poland at the start Stalin was a ratThe USSR was a shithole pretending to be a threat And fuck Russian niggers
>>725849309>Oh yeah, name literally a single timeIndian famines, East India Company. Congo Free State.
>>725843245>>725839949You're not just "participating" while expending your money on luxury items and doing zero charity, you're actively supporting the system you claim to criticizeIt's like saying you can't call an abolitionist that has slaves a hypocrite because that's just part of the systemYou don't need expensive coffee from a giant brand or an overpriced computer for the most valuable company in the world.And before you try to argue, when I say "need" you know I don't mean it in the strictest, sense (ie. biological needs for survival) but in the wider sense of self satisfaction and fulfilment.If your self satisfaction and fulfilment can only be derived from expensive brands, then yes, you encourage, participate and propagate a capitalist culture of excess
>>725849685>emotionally compromised babble straight from the textbooks of those very same trotsYou're a sad being. Or a baltoid.
>>725839949oh nononono anons btfo
>>725849619Its not a stain on Stalin, it just goes to show how retarded communists are and often got killed by their own. Even when commie finn diaries and letters have been found none of the modern finns have any sympathy for them.
>>725849886100,000 more dead until Pokvrosk is secure cumrade
>/v/ trying to discuss politicswew
>>725848798>People tell me I should do keep writing...I am not one of them.Find a new profession.
>>725849776The only reason Stalin can evoke this kind of visceral reaction based on falsities is some sort of Blood-hatred of his deeds. You're either a jew or balt. Or utterly mentally colonized by those eastern european refugees. Stalin was a great man. Put anyone else in the driver's seat during that time and they'll fail the job.
>>725837040Commies are disgusting subhumans
I don't get all the shitposting when communism is shat on pretty throughly in-game. Do you guys like yelling at boogeymen?
>>725849619It's pretty remarkable that Stalin set out to purge every traitor to communism and by the end he had succeeded in killing very close to 100% of people who had been Communist Party members when he startedLike what are the chances that literally everyone you ever met was secretly a gay jewish cia agent that needed to die and only dedicated their lives to pretending to be your friend, that seems like remarkably bad fortune
>>725850050>Stalin was a great man.>reddit spacing
>>725843876Everytime I see one of those venezuelan gold farmers I report them and try my best to blunder their botting. Fuck them for ruining the games economy
>>725849956As I have said, you (and people like you) are mentally distorted thanks to a few decades of propaganda. Its a sad existence, when you cannot even admit a self-evident truth (Stalin's Great Man status, on par with Napoopan).Put Stalin in control of Disco Elysium development and you'll have at least 5 years of quality games.
>>725850113>It's pretty remarkable that Stalin set out to purge every traitor to communism and by the end he had succeeded in killing very close to 100% of people who had been Communist Party members when he startedMakes sense, after Reds won the civil war, Bolsheviks took control by slaughtering all socialists after they outlived their usefulness. Same philosophy was implemented to bolsheviks themselves.
>725850165>more gay pro-uke memes and vernacular
>>725842668>>725845972No one can give an answer as to what fascism is because fascism was created as a confused ideology which is 95% the same as communism.
>>725850050He literally wasn't dipshit he preached equality before going back to his mansion to send a bunch of village boys to a meat grinderHe was possibly the worse leader and only got the job from nepotism Lol Russians celebrating victory day as their biggest holiday is the biggest cope on the planetThey "claim" victory with USA ammo using USA money against an enemy that thought they were too retarded to be allies with.
>>725838040because of these guys, they wrote the musicit's pretty much a waste of time to play the game, you can just listen the soundtrack
>>725849886>>725850050How the fuck is "every country who shares a border with us hates us with the burning force of a thousand eternal suns just because we killed and raped so many of them" the favorite flex of Russia? It doesn't make you sound better
>>725850083they are commies. their willingness to shit on their allies over minor differences doesn't stop them from being marxist sheep.
>>725847782You forgot to complete the thought:>because they are living embodiments of that exact copeOnline politics is to politics as fantasy football is to playing football.
>>725850474Grandpa this isn't the cold war, go back to the retirement home now.
people like stalin?
>>725850360God also imagine being north korea suffering with mass starvation with the lowest gdp in Asia and you're only ally Russia doesn't help you remotely and demands you to send in your civvies to go get blown up by drones.Meanwhile South Korea and their evil American allies is crushing it as an economic and political powerhouseIt's just funny as fuck
>>725850083the game that makes fun of meaningless obsession with politics needs to align its humor more with their personal meaningless obsession with politics
>>725850360No one cares faggot. Disco Elysium would still be a thing if Stalin helmed the production, which is the entire point. He was a good manager, both of countries and of gaming studios.
>>725845325>>725845535The same leftiest recently harassed an 19 old artist for refusing to draw some faggotry because of her religion. It's like the retards are acting dumb on purpose. I asked one of them if they support Gaza and are aware of their religion and it basically turned into a constant avoidance of the topic. It's no wonder even normies are getting radicalized into rightwings
>>725850553The only people that hate Stalin are Finns and Germans that hate being reminded that they lost WWII.
>>725843781Immigration is why claipistan is such a shithole, it was fine prior to Hart-Celler
>>725850083these niggers never even tried the gameprobably true with a bunch of leftie losers praising it too, considering I've seen some get genuinely upset at shit like measurehead and cuno
>>725849776They were an unorganized shithole during the early stages of the war, after coming from the brutal commie revolution that left everyone fucked especially the military. Contrary to popular belief is that Germans outnumbered the defending soviets during the blitzkrieg. the Germans actually outnumbered the defending Soviets during the Blitzkrieg. It wasn't until around Stalingrad and afterward that they finally got their shit together and organised a massive 7 million troops at its peak to destroy the Germans. The only mistake that they did was not push through to the rest of Europe.
>>725850083our /vpol/ friends didn't play it
>>725842989almost like no one actually gives a damn about needs.perhaps the commies are wrong that we do stuff to live in some survival of the fittest sense? or some sort of systemic self-maintenance.perhaps its exactly the opposite? we live to do stuff. to live a certain kind of life worth living.perhaps it isn't about materialistic gratification at all. perhaps it's about character - who you are.they get to be a communist who likes apple computers, like all the other decent communists out there who enjoys drinking starbucks.but that dismantles their entire structure. whoopsie.
>>725850424The real pathetic thing is carrying a grudge for a hundred years because the wrong guys won a power struggle in a distant land, a whole ocean awayThat's modern leftism
>LEFTY LEFTY LEFTY LEFTY>RIGHTY RIGHTY RIGHTYThis is the gayest psy-op of all timeI hope the CIA is working overtime on the world's lamest MK ultra experiment
>>725849602>with a head-mate he made out of his gut feelingsLITERAL gut feelings btw.
Nobody has really made a good argument against Marxs theory of M-C-M prime and how it backs up his theory of value.
>>725845685I remember playing the demo and just smelling the sweaty reddit-writings from the first 5 minutes. I really need to finish it and see how bad it truly gets
>>725850641If you want a laugh check out this Wikipedia articlehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_and_gender-based_violence_in_the_October_7_attacksBelieve All Women evaporated lol, if you're a feminist certain people are just allowed to gangrape if they really need to
the hiding of IP counts was a mistake
>>725850764Using American money and ammunition, we wouldn't have supplied them if they tried to threaten innocent countriesAnd they still lost the most blood in the meat grinder with the entire world supporting themBy all accounts Russians are retarded and I'm not shocked hitler didn't want to ally with them
>>725848698>Gone Home sold 700,000 copiesI call bs.
>>725850846Because no one wants to argue with a retard with a retarded ideology where it only will work if everyone is a hivemind that works for the greater good of the country.
>>725848254The game is still getting 500+ response threads like this one years after release, so I can only conclude you're sour grapes.
>>725850972Good argument. I'm convinced now.
>>725850623>tankies are this deludedlolgb2 your t*rkr*ach chat, hasan
>>725850083The devs thanked Marx and Engels on their award speech
>>725850532>commies don't exist any more >btw join my marxist discord server! under 18 welcome! full of university professors from top schools and politicians! we play among us together o3o
>>725849619Absurd the lengths Tankies go to defend Stalin's mindless massacres of people who put their faith in him.
>>725850949Yeah yeah sure thing buddy, Americans won WW2 singlehandedly.
>>725851129And?Also nigger that was over like what, 5 years ago?The fact you still harp on that is pathetic, can't even engage with the text itself so you just shit yourself over a random comment some dev made.
>>725851107>>725851173Some of the killings were good, some were bad. The case of wiping out socialist subversives was doubleplusgood
>>725851191Um kinda, we supplied the eastern frontWe solo half of the axis which your precious Russia literally just got btfo by in a landslide Japanese favorAnd still found time to be the main force on the western front The only one we didn't touch was Africa
I respect old boomer Marxist economists who have real world views and extensive ideas for government planning and organisation. My old history professor was an astute Socialist who worked with people who set up Allende’s Cybernetic Socialist algorithmic planned economy scheme and I learnt a lot from him. Nothing is more sapping of interest than someone who only believes in things for purely emotional reasons.
>>725851039Thanks retard, maybe if you lobotomize everyone and destroy their sense of self-fulfillment then sure communism will be the best thing ever.
>>725850083I think you're being dishonest.
>>725851354lollmao
>>725850397Cucks who repudiated their country and their own name under SJW/communist pressure.
>>725851039i get that you're too retarded to even follow the most basic logical conclusion, but:every political system fathomable would "work" if you presume everyone involved is a kind, altruistic, intelligent, rational actor. an absolute monarchy would be easier to run, since only the king needs to be perfect for it to work. obviously you don't believe there would ever be a perfect king, so why would there ever be a perfect communist state? it's a fairy tale. communism is the fantasy of a drunk parasite shitposting about the jews.
>>725851310Yeah thats why I said Americans fuck yeah won ww2 alone.
>>725851191During the war period the Soviet Union manufactured approximately 250,000 trucksThe US sent them 427,284 trucksPlease reply to me with "what do trucks have to do with winning a war lol"
>>725848223>>725848530>>725848678Filtered
>>725850905Shut the fuck up. There being an 85 a 64 or a 107 in the bottom right corner of the thread would change absolutely nothing and has never changed anything back when it was there.
>>725851354This is like those trader bot comments in youtube. What's the name of your old history professor ranjeet?
DE is kinoDidn't read the threadNot my problemDon't care
>>725850949lol all usa did was sell russia weapons at a steep price as lend-lease and then swoop in at the eleventh hour when everything was decided. which was a good move ngl but by no accounts it was noble and honorable as it's painted
>>725851278>The case of wiping out socialist subversives was doubleplusgoodYes, like someone else already said, the one good thing about Stalin was that he killed millions and millions of communists.
>>725850846the funny/sad thing is the kneejerk reaction to communism you get from Americans is just ingrained McCarthyism they inherited from their parents. they don't know how communism works, they've never read marx, they don't know how its different from capitalism, they just know "COMMUNISM BAD" and that's enough to make them cry out for 250 posts anytime it gets mentioned.it's like a true example of, as marx would say, "the tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living." they struggle to break free of their programming, and many never will.
>>725851191No they didn't. And I'm not even saying this to suck up for Soviet faults, because Soviet command was garbage.The fact was in 1941 the lend lease tanks the Soviets received were primarily dog shit Stuarts to replenish Soviet tank losses from the opening stages of Barbarossa and they had poor armor and tall profiles that made them good targets for German tankists. The British were more in need of American tanks than the Soviets. The main supply given to the Soviets was food for the besieged populations. By the time Shermans started to arrive into Soviet hands the Soviets were undoubtedly on the offensive and beating the Germans back in 1943. Read a book.
>>725851456Are you retards actually getting triggered by me saying Americans won ww2? Shit jesus christ man, like what more do you want?
>>725851310>The only one we didn't touch was AfricaPatton defeated Rommel and won Africa
Price stability is the most important thing.You know this is true, in your heart.
>>725850083>t-t-they're not communists!Uh huh. But I wonder who actually falls for your bullshit? >>725849084
>>725851440I wanna chime in that a big reason capitalism has had such objective success is that part of the ideology is to harness human moral failings rather than suppress themI'd be genuinely interested in other systems with an element of "Human beings are going to be assholes, perhaps we will have more success if we harness them being assholes in a useful way instead of trying and failing to make them stop being assholes"I don't 100% buy into the greed is good mantra, but it seems like there's something to be said for the idea of extracting value where you can from vices that you can't eliminate anyway
>>725851589lollmao
>>725851310Ww2 was a team effort. It is an undeniable fact that the USSR carried the largest burden of combat.
>>725851662>Centrists are the only political faction to be truly shown as evil. Even the most extreme positions agree that the current state of the city must change meanwhile mr moralist just keeps his head in the sandThis game was a blast, sad we'll never see anything like it again.
Engels was like the non autist version of Marx.
>>725851228>engage with the text itself"ERM ACTUALLY THIS ISN'T ALL JUST A WORD FOR WORD TRANSCRIPTION OF KAPITAL SO IT'S NOT COMMUNIST">engage with the creators"WHO CARES IF THEY DEDICATED THE WORK TO MARX, LET'S GO BACK TO TALKING ABOUT THE TEXT">repeat ad infinitum
>>725840876>>725841126Isn't communism supposed to be stateless?
>>725851909You're expecting commies to be consistent
>>725851772>>725851908>Can't prove me wrong so he has to cope with random twitter postsGo into the game and show me a piece of text that proves they're dicksucking communism.You can't.And that makes you shit yourself in anger
>>725851228>>725851908btw your next move is to pretend not to understand why i included that image instead of engaging in discourse. let's see if you've already done that before i hit post.
>>725851810"Greed is good" is based on people not knowing what greed is anymore. Making something as efficiently as possible is not greed, cheeping out on ingredients to the point where nobody buys your shit anymore is greed.
>>725851840Throwing your dudes into a meat grinder because Stalin was a psychopath is a burden fully created by them.But I suppose you do need meatIt was primarily a USA victory the second you actually start looking into it and how much impact the USA had on the war effort by all accountsEuros sat in their bombed out towns making speeches like they aren't even the conversation Victory day should be a USA holiday but I suppose we're used to winning
>>725851610The problem with the Soviet command is that they were too big and were issuing complex commands that no one can perfectly follow. This is why Zhukov was a very successful general, because he figured out that you cannot strategically micromanage millions of troops. The best strategy was a simplified go fuck xyz at this location and go defend this point.
>>725852012>Communism is voiced by your Intelligence >"Fascism" is voiced by your gut
>>725843250Estonia is not "radical leftist", it's social democratic. Like Tallinn has free public transport, which is definitely leftist, but not that radical
>>725851589I was reading the Communist Manifesto and I got to about this point when I started thinking "Marx is an autistic fucking psychopath, how the fuck did anyone ever take him seriously about any topic, this is like if you put Chris-Chan in charge of 100,000,000 people"
why did they make him based?
>>725845685>mental health and family drama writingHah classic.
>>725852141That's because he was.
>>725851909There's a million different sects of Communism but none of them have ever achieved the actual end-stage which is a stateless society. But to say Communism is stateless is like saying Capitalism is stateless just because the end goal is a society run by corporations, but in Communism's case it's run by trade unions and workers collectives instead of a bunch of shadowy billionaires.So no, Communism is not stateless in any practical sense. It's an ideal to aspire to, but that's about it.
>>725851909Communism is just a smokescreen for oligarchy.
>>725852103
>>725852141Damn, 180 years later and rightoids still have no idea what Marx meant in a 20 pages long pamphlet. Depressing.
>>725851810i agree basically. the most important consideration of any government is "what do we do about selfish cunts?" it's no good building a well if someone's going to poison it.putting those people in competition with each other and letting everyone else pick their favourites helps mitigate a lot of those problems. obviously, you still need a central government enacting some restrictions on them, which every supposedly "capitalist" country has.
>>725852157>Doesn't acknowledge his own race is inferior after you beat his disgusting black ass
>>725852121Anon, read the image. Being a radical leftist from Estonia makes Kaur Kender a fucking retard.
>>725852141His ideas were just at the right time for communism. Especially after WW1 kicked off.
>>725852281
>>725852281>you didn't read Marx>okay maybe you read him but you didn't UNDERSTAND him>that schizo bullshit he's ranting about, it actually makes perfect sense when you recontextualize it and realize it means something completely differentHoly fuck dude
>>725852281Nu, what did he mean? Explain.
>>725852457It's the same shit liberals say about Islam>"You don't understand. He didn't literally mean to kill and rape unbelievers."
>>725852141Is... is he saying all women are whores?
>>725841664They're retarded. I've seen people arguing that Lenin "decriminalized" LGBT shit as if he sat and thought "UwU I'm gonna liberate the queer folx" instead of just throwing away the entire tsarist code of law after they raped the Mensheviks.
>>725844735because, in marxist terms, despite claiming the opposite communism isn't a proletarian movement, it is a bourgeoise one. a little more specifically, it represents the class interests of the manager class, neither owners nor workers. curiously glossed over by the jew karl marx.
>>725850846Because its a retarded to begin with and completely disconnected from reality. Value is entirely subjective and held by individual wants and needs, not on the labor spent to make something.Its this M-C-M retardation that leads to people smearing shit on a canvas and calling it art, just because they spent time on it doesn't mean it has any value to anyone with half a braincell.
Such devastation.
>>725852564Yes.Everyone knew this back then
>>725852012Oh apparently Kurvitz is nothing to go by then. I suppose it's all just 'random bullshit'. His new studio is called Red Info for christ's sake.
>>725852502No, I'm not going to. Just look at this subhuman >>725852564. You people wouldn't be able to read the simplest sentence in the universe if your (worthless) life depended on it.
You knows it's a good short story when people add 100 extra pages to it to explain why when you really think about it imit makes sense
>>725852719>Thank Karl Marx at the game awards>"He isn't a communist, guiz"
>read enough classical socialist literature to absolutely despise neoliberal capitalism >too worn out to do anything about it or consider a fool-safe path out of ithate it
>>725849528Based
>>725852141So "abolish family" is actually basic feminism and being against home schooling? Not as crazy radical as I assumed.>calls bourgeois cucks
>>725850641>The same leftiest recently harassed an 19 old artist for refusing to draw some faggotry because of her religion.Oh yeah, that one's funny.>muslim girl in a muslim country declines a commission>reason being that drawing gay couples conflicts with her religion>"compassionate lefties" don't realize that if she drew this and got found out (very likely), there would be severe consequences >the best she could hope for would be imprisonment
>>725852564yes, that women only raise children for economic benefit and they would fuck and suck their way around town non-stop if they didn't have to worry about money.except he frames this as a good thing.
>>725852141Marx is literally saying>"government mandated gf's NOW, NO SEX NO WORK, END THE BOURGEOIS MONOPOLY ON PUSSY"and chudcels will still find a reason to complain and pretend they don't understand.
>>725852735I accept your concession and by extension the concession of all communists and tankies in this thread.
>Preaches communism while living in a capitalist country.Why are communists like this? Why don't you go to North Korea and preach communism from there?
>>725852864liberals are retarded
>>725852347>ham sandwich at his lowest is still superior to a semenese bodybuilder at his bestK I N Oand faggots keep trying to brainwash me into believing that this game is woke trash
>>725852619ah but marx got around this by saying it relates to the average socially neccesary labor... which means that the actual theory just says "on average things are average", lmaoas always with commies it's a motte and bailey position: the obvious falsehood that all labor is equally valuable retreats into a trivial, pointless truism that can be muddied up forever with equally pointless jargon.
>>725852141I think it makes sense from his time, when lower class people in cities were too tied up with work to even really exist as a family, and women in upper class families lacked freedom despite their status
>>725852864>>"compassionate lefties" don't realize that if she drew this and got found out (very likely), there would be severe consequencesI asked one of those faggots if they're aware that she could get in trouble and they turned it into "ermmm doesnt matter"genuine braindead
>>725852874That's not at all what he's saying.
>>725852438hitler paraphrase lol
>>725852719And?Is this the famous american reading comprehension I've heard so much about?Stop hyperfixating on faggy social media and look at the actual meat and potatos of the game. Game dev isn't the work of one guy, its a team. Stop acting like one or two faggot's opinions reflect the actual text.
>>725852907>you hate feudalism, yet you partake in farming! I am very intelligent.
>>725852791>Thank Karl Marx at the game awards>broke /vpol/ schizos RAWKing
Russia has one of the highest divorce rates in the worldMaybe you favs really should leash your women better
>>725850897>could be due to victims being dead or unwilling to come forwardWe truly live in a clownworld
>>725853079no those are fake statistics made up by the jews and anglo-saxonsokay maybe some divorce happens in Russiadivorce is trad and zased
>>725852849That and the part where no one will have a "wife" or a "husband" or a "son" or a "daughter" or a "mother" or a "father" anymore, only comradesJust fuck whoever you want, any kids shit out as a side effect will be shuffled off to academies at birth to be raised into further comradesAldous Huxley was big on that shit too
>>725853071He's right tho, you can just leave? Plane and bus tickets are not that expensive in the west.
>Russia>communismWhat did xhe mean by this?
>>725853040>Stop hyperfixating on faggy social media and look at the actual meat and potatos of the game.Okay>Moralists are do nothing retards>Fascists hate women and nationalism is ackshully just a smokescreen for Fascism>Ultraliberals kill babies>Communists are a glorious revolution that everyone else keeps banding together to stop
You people are aware Marx said many times that private property will and should not be abolished instantly, right? Wait until you find out about the N.E.P or god forbid, Xi Jinping Thought.
>>725849528I wonder how Netflix would have managed to ruin Disco Elysium.
>>725853040You're a disingenuous faggot if you think one individual can't have a massive impact on a communal piece of art. I can immediately point to Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart where Sam Maggs verbally harassed staff members because she was that assblasted about the idea of Rivet having even a hint of breast, and everybody relented because they were sick of her.
>>725837040Capitalist scum destroys socialist bros
>>725838040>people likedCommunists aren't people.
Is Marx left woke or right woke?
>>725853174Name one reason this wouldn't work and be better than the current christcuck-derived system
>>725853248>>725853208And yet you can't even post a single example of DE's text supporting communism. How curious!
>>725853258>reddit meme
>>725852989What do you think Marx means by "public and private prostitution" or "our bourgeois, [...] take the greatest pleasure in seducing eachother's wives."like its literally about women's role under capitalism being nothing more than sex slaves to the bourgeois, because they cannot resist the influence of capital.
>>725853174>Aldous Huxley was big on that shit tooWhy would you phrase it like he's some political guy in favor of that?
>>725852874Wasn't there some shit about how he had leprosy because he refused to bathe, and how he was constantly pining after his sister too?He'd fit in on 4chan perfectly.
>>725853289He was a racist anti-semite who plagiarized dozens if not hundred of authors in his works.
>>725839949it's not that communism equals when have money, have excess, have luxury, it's more that having money, excess, and luxury equals capitalism.
>>725853071except you can spend your capital to purchase travel to a communist country.
>>725850897After nearly the entire left went from "Punch a Nazi" to "Drive the Jews into the sea" on October 7th, I don't know how any group could trust them or considering allies ever again.
>>725853339The entire fucking setting is about a post-failed Commie Revolution state that is never implied or suggested to have failed because of Communism and instead failed because it was blown to shit by everyone and then left to rot
>>725853405>who plagiarized dozens if not hundred of authors in his works.They plagiarized greeks.
>>725853376Because he wasn't Orwell, he always had an undercurrent of "Haha wouldn't it be awful if we did this... unless?"
>>725853071That is the most retarded counterargument that I have ever read, and I'm no longer surprised because communists are subhumans.
>>725849602>head-matekill yourself
>Hey Mister Marx, what's up? I was just thinking, the Kaiser is a pretty nice guy actually. Maybe I can get some social reforms done by asking him politely, what do you think?
>>725853180>>725853449>waste money and time to travel thousands of miles away, bro!Sorry, no. Get expropriated and hung on the nearest street light.
>>725853497what?
>>725853376Huxley suffered from the common mistake of making his 'dystopia' too appealing.
>>725841563I PUT A SOIJAK ON IT SO I HAVE DEEP AND THOUGHTFUL CRITICISMI AM THIRTEEN YEARS OLD
>>725853575Brave New World doesn't hammer its reader with the Torment Nexus the way 1984 does, and Huxley has later work that "moderates" it
>>725843686well... yes
>>725853405>racist >anti-semite>plagiarizedHe really is the patron saint of the modern leftie academic. Hallowed be thy name.
>>725853569>I fucking hate capitalism >Do go live in a non capitalism country >Woah woah woah pal those are dogshitEverytime lol
>>725853557The Kaiser was a reformer when he was younger, too.
>>725853704Gonna cry, pussy? MAGAcoms are here and they fuck your social relations up.
>>725852141HOLY FUCKING BASED MARXSEX FOR EVERYONE NO MORE INCEL AND CHUDSTOTAL THOT DEATH
>>725853557marx was right he really does look like one
>>725853557
>>725853569but your position is that money is a shackle, and time is only valuable under communism. if you hate "capitalist states," so much, you would leave.
>>725852618Probably glossed over by Karl Marx because a navel-gazer calling him a Jew is the average criticism of his work, the manager class is a capitalistic invention to off-load even the work of having to whip the slaves. There is no differentiation between manager and worker with the "own the means of production" idea
>>725853654Idk what you're talking about and not that Anon just bumping in to shit talk 1984100 pages of cool shi, 200 pages of a random love story like wtf
>>725838040Most people who play games are midwits, retards or socially retarded losers. A lot of them are also left-leaning to one extent or another, particularly the socially retarded ones that these games are made for.
>>725853828Time is not valuable because it's a human invention, it's not real. Communism is because it's both real and good. Communism is the abolition of time.
>>725853885lollmao
>>725853826Marx was so fucking based beyond belief
>>725852141Why did people think Marx, a bourgeois, was qualified to speak on the behalf of the proletariat anyway?
>>725853221>Wait until you find out about the N.E.PYes I'm aware of the NEP, as I am aware of operation trust too. Which is still in effect in the Russian Federation to answer this anons question. >725853183
>>725854050commies are retarded and communism is inherently self-defeating
>>725853859The random love story serves no literary purpose but to show how all-encompassing Big Brother is and mostly serves to show how paranoid Orwell is, Big Brother as a political machine and total authoritarian form of government basically shows Orwell assumes that secret-police outnumber citizenry four to one to have such an elaborate and fine-mesh network of narcs all patrolling the streets. Hell the Internet alone would have made George Orwell's head spin, information suppression at large scale is simply not feasible and the speed and ease of communication means it's simply not probable.
>shartyteens hate DEGame of generation
>>725854050Because the whole thing is jewish, and you will listen when jews speak.
>>725853552how are you getting upset about that, what term was I supposed to use?
>>725853859When Orwell was writing 1984, his intended message to the audience was "Don't do this shit, retard!"When Huxley was writing Brave New World, his intended message to the audience was "There's some good ideas in here, maybe find a way to work out the kinks"
>>725854050Most people are just stupidI mean people also voted for the multi billionaire born rich trump to fight for thee middle class too and are now surprised he's showing off his golden room while talking about how cool would it be if you were in debt for life with 50 year mortgages
>>725853569Just go join a commune, then?You get to live the communist lifestyle, without having to actually leave the country.
>>725853968having abolished money, time and space, we must distribute Marx Units to the people. one gains MUs by crashing at your friend's place for decades, buying booze with payday loans and calling the banker a nigger.
>>725854050You'll find most marxists are bourgeois who think they're working class even though they don't know the difference between a screw and a nail.
>>725854112I think it was to show how much he wanted some ass
Orwell was a very shitty communist. Then again he was a trotskyist and trotskyists trust absolutely nobody. It's weird because "trotskyist" is just as much a right wing insult as it is a left wing one.
>>725853859>>725854132i like that julia was raped and implied to be pregnant
>>725853569>Waste>MoneySo you put value into money and losing it? What happens if you work and earn no money because the state says your payment is food and water? RUH ROH, COMMIES PLS EXPLAIN.
Disco Elysium's writing is the most overrated in all of vidya. Yes, there is some good prose in there, I give them that. But holy fucking shit does every conversation just want to expo dump. Its like sitting down to read an encyclopedia. And some of these conversations just won't let you out. You keep spamming "I don't give shit (move on)", and they are like "Haha I understand. But before you go, have I told you about the how they mix concrete in the Samaran Isola?"
>>725854050It's because Marx was working with the bourgeois to spread beliefs among the proletariat that would actually benefit the bourgeois.
>>725854050Because he developed class consciousness which is an objective assessment of our reality. NEXT QUESTION!>>725854165But that won't let me kill smug /v/tards.
>>725854050this post always get the most circle jerking
>>725854289Yeah brutha reading is hard no cap frfr
>>725854290>violent revolution works and you're gonna have to do it if you want to put an end to the capitalistic machine>"spread beliefs among the proletariat that would actually benefit the bourgeois"What?
>>725854050>if you have money you can't criticize capitalism because you profited from it>if you're poor you can't criticize capitalism because you're just jealous
>>725854119>Gameits a glorified visual novel
>>725854163Basically the only thing in Trump's favor is how much other billionaires despise him; of the 25 richest people on earth, three campaigned for him and twelve for Biden/HarrisYou can make the "everybody is evil in America" argument pretty handily because the Republicans are surely the richfag party yet the Democrats have dominated the richfag vote since 2008 when all of Silicon Valley and Wall Street lined up with Obama
The major problem with Marx is he did not anticipate how stupid the proletariat are.
>>725854364Two words: iron law of oligarchy.
>>725854289If de was realistic 90% of conversations would be >Hi>Hey> So can you tell me retarded specific shit >No haha okay goodbyeThan the npc would start fast walking away
>>725854403i can be poor in capitalismi'll be starving to death in communism
>>725854420>visual novelVisual novel is ADV and ADV are games.
>>725854328>class consciousness>the serfs realising that communism is shit and run to a capitalist countryEvery single time this happens, you don't see anyone besides some stupid white liberal go to a communist country so they could live out their fantasies. Even these so called "communists" are staying in a capitalist country.
>>7258541121984 makes much more sense when you understand Orwell moved to Spain to fight with the communists in the civil war, and every communist he met was so wretched, he had to disseminate his experiences as a cautionary tale.
>>725854475Hey at least you can choose not to work in a capitalist country while in a communist country, you don't have a choice.
>>725854553agjully orwell was andi-gommie :DDD
>>725854364It's true.Look how Cuba turned out, they had a big beautiful communist revolution and it ended with one family ruling the nation for 80 years from their palatial villa surrounded by their luxury imports and private cars/jets and celebrities while literally 99.99% of the population lived in squalor with intermittent electricity and occasional faminesFinally, some real fuckin' communism
>>725854542>Even these so called "communists" are staying in a capitalist country.So what? Even communists can be wrong sometimes. Marx wasn't, all of his views are objectively correct, because he understood the reality as it was.
>>725854475Yeah.>in Capitalism, you have the ability to lift yourself out of poverty if you try>in Communism, fuck you fuck you fuck you, you're all poor and there's nothing you can do about it
>>725854470did you miss the part where you're a cophave you ever dealt with those fuckers, I think it's pretty realistic that you keep pestering people about the most random shit
>>725854470Its not about realism. Its about editing. Like GRRM is criticized for expo dumping on readers, but at least a lot of his shit is plot relevant to some degree. Disco Elysium will just go into the history of some fictional automotive manufacturer, and then its never relevant to anything or anyone. Its just because post-Game of Thrones, everyone confuses lots of characters and facts for interesting world.
>>725854553>fought with the communistshe fought for a trotskyist militia that battled alongside the anarchist trade unions who were huge retards and the main reason the republicans lost the civil war. The communists (stalinists) who were against Orwell were the ones trying to collaborate with the elected government to try and create a united front. Shit was dumb.
>>725839110>communists take over newspaper>fire everyone>capitalists take over video game company>fire everyoneProving again that there's no difference between commies and capitalists. Both are exploiters when they get the chance.
>>725854451that's the lumpenprole and his response was "anyone who doesn't do exactly what i say is too stupid to matter."today, this belief lives on in the hearts on narcissistic midwits everywhere.
>>725854642>Look how Cuba turned outWith or without the decades of United States meddling?
>>725854642No bro because even though that's how it always turn out and even the idea of communism will make this happen it doesn't count because if it was a 20 person village it would be manageable. Oh we don't live in villages anymore uh doesn't count
>>725837578>Disco Elysium's proseYeah, such a high bar that was.
>by Orwell>write some cool novel for fun>it will break bucks for decades because pseuds are trying to find deep meanings and political agendas everywhere oof
>>725854475ok reagan
>>725854779The US forced the Castros to live in a palace with billions of dollars in assets?
>>725854684Wow, I wonder what creates poverty in the first place.
Communism is nerdy, probably jewish faggots who got stuffed into lockers in high school having a power fantasy LARP in which they are the locker stuffers.
>>725854684>you have the ability to lift yourself out of poverty if you tryNo you don't. Small business is dead and rich parents still determine your social and economic class. Get a job. Don't say a fucking word about bootstraps
>>725853705Only those who benefit from the status quo are interested in reforms.
>>725854660The reality is that it's objectively better to live in a capitalist country. Even commies are enjoying the capitalist life.
>>725854642Cuba criticism is always funny to me. They were a country of whores and slavery tier condition farmers. A paradise for gangsters and American businessmen. Literally anything is a net positive after that but then they also built hospitals and taught people how to read AND piss off America endlessly just by existing.
>>725854163trump spitballs solutions and backs off if he gets legitimate pushback. he's always been like this.
>>725854779>if you're specifically anti-capital we won't trade capital with you>AAAAIIIIEEEEE
I just want a free apartment.
>>725853040>you're literate because I don't like that your exposing my favourite developer as a communistWhy do they get special treatment from you? they're clearly marxist agitators and not game developers.
>>725854893Good, they deserve luxury for being correct about everything.
>>725839949For the same reason the US had IBM pc's and a million clones that the average person could afford, and the soviets had the BULGARIASOFT KREMLINWARE 26K that 1 out of every 100 party members could own.In communism, you dont get luxuries because the entire country is too busy trying to keep the people fed and clothed and housed and its very inefficient to do this from a top down level, so even if the technology "exists", the money or resources to exploit it doesnt, theyre dedicated elsewhere. China is state capitalism, not communism anymore, and "has" iphones and starbucks" in their cities. Go to rural china, where 60% of chinese live, and see if it looks so good.
>>725854852Wrong half of your own post you're zeroing in on, there.
>>725854862>There's no poverty if everyone is poor as shit!
>>725846987You're a special kind of retard, huh?
>>725837040>>Disco Elysium>>Inspired by Communism>>Entire studio collapses, everyone all hates each other, everyone fractures into their own new companies all claiming to be the true successor to the gamLiterally not what happened though. Investors orchestrated a complete coup of the company. All the major leads for the game got nuked immediately.>Robert, Aleksander and HelenWere the first to go and collectively were responsible for a lot of disco elysium. Investors Ilmar and Tonis fucking hated the Disco team in general, and they are actually being investigated for fucking fraud for failure to notify of a lot of the shady shit they did.They may have all made their own studios, but there aren't any signs there was pre-existing hatred that caused the studio to collapsed. Everyone knows the studio collapsed because it got rug pulled by the major investors, probably illegally, which is why theres a fraud case.Theres a lot to criticize but we don't gotta make shit up.
>>725854872Only the locker stuffing broke their brains completely, and now they want to slaughter entire family lines.
>>725854832A 3rd of the book is literally just a torture scene, everything that people even remotely cite from 1984 is just from the first third.Animal farm is a lot more on the nose but a more coherent political critique
>>725854986I wonder what makes people poor in the first place then. Some, uh... Economic models?
>>725854880That makes no sense. Explain, please.
>>725854969No, I think it's pretty bad economic inequality when one nigga literally personally owns more wealth than the entire rest of his nation combinedFunny enough even the US oligarchy doesn't manage that, you need like 200 niggas combined
>>725839110>RPGcodex screencapLMAOMAO
>>725854931Yeah bro Cuba's economic conditions are purely because the United States isn't trading with them, the United States swinging around weight to prevent other people from also trading with them while taking pot-shots at their government to attempt toppling it and taking over into a vassal state is also irrelevant.>>725854910It is very literally just seething that Cuba didn't bend the knee.
>>725855084Why don't you just answer?
>>725854931>if you want to run your country the way you want Jews and Jews will Jew you
>>725855103Yeah we've got thousands of people that are incomprehensibly wealthy compared to the average citizen instead of just a couple
>>725855058DO IT TO JULIADO IT TO JULIAAAAAAAA
>>725854702"not this hammer and sickle, the OTHER hammer and sickle" one of his main points of contention was that the commies always turn on their own and end up destroying themselves from within rather than uniting against their obvious enemy. i guess you're living proof of that.
>>725845685Is it really that bad? I've got it on my wishlist. The demo was okayish. Maybe not stellar but there was potential.
>>725854965Foreigners get followed by the government when they try to explore most of china Like this isn't a conspiracy theory lol literal shills that lived in China for a decade have said this With proof
>>7258550581984 was pretty much Orwell looking over his shoulder constantly during the writing process, guy was on goofballs
>>725854403>if you have money you can't criticize capitalism because you profited from itWords are cheap, actions aren't. You can't criticize capitalism while doing nothing to rid yourself of the privileges granted by capital. If you are a communist you have the duty of sharing your capital with the less privileged, it's part of your own values.
>>725855359Self-flagellating as a show against capitalism is fucking stupid, communism's core as outlined by Marx is a total economic throw-off and not just altruism. Once again, violent revolution and violent retention of the new status quo because the previous status quo will stop at nothing to restore itself
>>725855119its funny they are the faggots who changed rules just to not make BG3 win goty 2023 and replaced it with jagged alliance 3
>>725846987they hated him because he told the truth
>>725855359>If you are a communist you have the duty of sharing your capital with the less privileged, it's part of your own values.owenite patriots are in control..
>>725855126>the United States swinging around weight to prevent other people from also trading with them>>725855212so does the US choke every country that attempts to trade with Cuba or not? should we look at a list of cuban imports and exports? there shouldn't be any US allies on it, right?
>>725855103>The tippy top class accounts for 40% of federal income taxes.Meanwhile the lower class who cries "tax the rich more" are only paying 16% of their fair share.
>>725854862The natural societal organization of the human species.Capitalism is a byproduct of societies engaging in trade and giving birth to economy, it's not a pipedream some drunk rich faggots came up with to sell as an ideal to other rich faggots.
>>725855460>violent revolution and violent retention of the new status quoif you believe this is acceptable then you equally believe it's acceptable for you to be violently overthrown by anyone who believes you aren't communist enough
>>725855623So are you pro embargo in a jew way or an american jew way?
>>725855820That's why you establish a vanguard to suppress reactionaries and make the revolution permanent
>>725855723Bro had the same brain parasites for 200 years, this is his post:
>>725837040>can you be named something else?fucking kek
>>725855723Truth, capitalism is the base form of human existence. It's just the core principle of giving someone thing in return for something else with no rules or laws to interfere with how you go about this We could lose the ability to speak and set back 1000 years in the past and we would still trade stuff for other stuff until some retard claims he's a leader and actually we need to follow a regulation and also pay some of our stuff to some retarded fag down the meadow
>>725841801>Xi isn't a dictatorCoolHow do you vote him out if you don't like him anymore?
>>725837040>ms. Wexleran esl wrote this
>>725853258All of them.
>>725855890>establish a vanguard to suppress reactionariesyes, let's prevent any reactionary political groups from banding together. these "union" things seem to be associated with our enemies trying to destabilize our power. we should send federal agents out to bust those reactionary unions.
>>725855892Looks like you don't have an argument.
I don't see a universe that soth america would have been fine if we didn't interfere, like the USA is not good people but let's be real here lol
>>725856159the Soviets initiated the largest labor union purge in history lolorganized labor apparently betrays the proletariat by sabotaging glorious work efforts
>>725855824So do you think enemies of your country are entitled to your support or are you just a hypocritical shitposter?
>>725855981>We could lose most of our brain function and still do capitalism like it's second natureWow...>>725856191https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch02.htm
>>725856328>If I'm retarded and miss the point actually I'm still wrong but I'll be a prick about it Cool
>>725855103Yeah instead of one guy owning most of the wealth, it's one percent. Vastly better.
>>725856010The Mandate of Heaven must do that, mere humans can not.
>>725855630If you tax 1% of a billion dollars and 99% of a thousand dollars, the guy with a billion dollars is still contributing a greater proportion of income tax
>>725837040This game reeks of 3deep5u and just like anything with this kind of writing, it's simple shit told in the most obtuse way possible.
>>725856292>Worker rights and more pay?>HA NOT ON MY WATCH.The beauty that is communism is that you don't get to say about anything as an individual, you are owned by the state, your work is owned by the state, you will be happy working for the state.
>>725856328Poor thing still hasn't found his argument. Yeah, let daddy Marx do the thinking for you, that's good, I'll be sure to respond to him.
>>725856328>Slavery must be abolished because the feeding of slaves in the system of slavery cannot exceed a certain low maximum!amazing how he predicted mass starvation under his own ideology. a real nostradamus
>>725837578>proselol you retarded cocksucker
>>725856459>one person is equal to one percent of millions of people are all marxists this bad at math? is that why you want to get rid of money?
>>725855630>>725856541>middle class still pays majority of all taxes.How long do the 1% keep pushing for that silly lie?
>>725856762Every economic system hates the concept of the concept of the middle class just in different ways Your leaders want you to be ants and peons
>>725854862People. The state of living in poverty dates AGES before capitalism. Kings and emperors living in luxury while the poor die of starvation isn't a result of capitalism
>>725856305>your countryas you can see >>725855212 its more likely that I'm simply not a Jew
If you're going to defend communism on my basket weaving forum, state your age and employment history, I'd rather not discuss politics with unemployed 20 year olds.
>>725856762>It takes 150+ million peopleto pay as much in taxes as just a thousand billionaires.Oh nonononono. The lower and middle class should be taxed more.
>>725857059when you definitely succeed at your communist uprising next week, are you going to allow trade with every country in the world?
>>725857143>A thousand billionairesMore like a couple dozen at most
>>725855820Look at this guy thinking there's ever been an intellectual revolution or a gentleman's revolutionPoint and laugh and also raise up a weapon
>>725856570>The beauty that is communismthis nigga thinks russian oligarchy is on-paper communism
I have full understanding of sociopolitical-technological-welfare impact of capitalism by reading like 4 hours of a book and it's without exaggeration responsible for the entirety of modern civilizationIt's unsurprising leftists screech without understanding anything (it's 80% women wtf did you expect) but it's a bit upsetting the retort is always "muh starvation". It's like I'm the only person that knows anything- No one else does but they're all strangely opinionated
>>725839949Apple and Starbucks are capitalistic companies. By consuming the products of capitalism, she is directly funding it.
>>725857787>I have full understanding of sociopolitical-technological-welfare impact of capitalism by reading like 4 hours of a book and it's without exaggeration responsible for the entirety of modern civilizationNobody denies this. Modern civilization is evil and rotten to the core.
Hasan is the biggest commie streamer and hes a nepo baby that lives in a multi million dollar mansion making excuses on why he can't donate money to the more needy in between crying when Mr beast helped people with some eyesight surgeryIt should really tell you what the average commie elite is like Like I don't care if people don't want to donate but it's literally within your principals. You should careIt's like how half of Muslim doctrine is about being extra nice to the poor and you have Andrew tate the super Muslim who only shit talks the poor
