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Previous thread: >>153808482
Welcome to the merged general of Elite: Dangerous and Star Citizen.
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>Elite: Dangerous information:
http://pastebin.com/ZT9GWmaC

Gamescom info:
https://community.elitedangerous.com/eventseason16
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/bilderstrecke/bilderstrecke_3298445.html?back=3298273
http://www.gamestar.hu/gamescom/elite-dangerous-horizons-2-2-guardians-update-gamescom-2016-frissites-ujdonsagok-215519.html
https://www.youtube.com/user/FrontierDevelopments/videos
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>Star Citizen information:
http://pastebin.com/GQe3byWy

Gamescom info:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15451-Gamescom-2016-Details
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GucYhhLwIxg

>2.5 LIVE btw
Referral code randomize:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WNKNAuruiI1p5XGPjtVi_uwi8wPmuEYawOKQuhRXfdw/edit#gid=953337098
__________________________________
>Other games:
http://pastebin.com/cugkem8w

If it doesn't have a general, post it here; just don't get upset about sharing. If it DOES have a general, please go. We don't need your baggage.
Above is a pastebin of games you can play while waiting for SC and E:D to become playable.
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Polaris when?
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Dr. Smart?
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>>153856062 late and gay

>>153855762
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>>153856270
why would you make a new thread 5 minutes before the old one reaches the bump limit?
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>>153856259
You don't get to bring NPCs.
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>>153856398
>5 minutes before
3 minutes
>why
4 minutes faster
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>3.0 this year
toppest keks
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This one was posted first.

whatever
I finally ditched my fer de shit for a Python.
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>>153856664
I don't think anyone on /scg/ expects it before February.
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>>153856706 OK. Completely disregarding how timestamps in the OPs disagree with you, you can set the catalog to order by thread age. This thread is younger.
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>>153856158
We know when, Polaris at CitCon
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>https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/511f03/any_way_to_get_a_refund/

Really makes you think...
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Out here, in the ass end of literally nowhere, is the last place you expected to be. You were given these coordinates by a shady guy in an even shadier place. As you slowly approach, skimming the top of the asteroid field, you finally see it. A few lights here, a shimmer there. Once in range, the abnormal object comes into view. What looks to be 3 Caterpillars all docked together, with a dozen or more ships floating casually next to it.

It's the most illicit club this side of the 'verse, with a patron set that ranges from young kids looking to dance all the way to hardened smugglers waiting for a job. The UEE doesn't patrol this far out, and the Vanduul have all but ignored it. It's lawless, but as you don your EVA suit to head to the airlock, you note that it's not without order. Patrols of hired thugs sit silently in the dark, and you're sure there are more bouncers inside.

Why did you come all the way out here? You don't remember. It's probably not a good idea, yet here you are. The airlock loudly thumps, hisses, and then coughs. There is pressure again, and you remove your helmet. The inner airlock door opens, and a wave of... excitement... hits you. You enter the dimly lit station.

What songs and music do you expect to be hearing?
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one last shipment of gold and I'm set for 25 mil brabenbux.

Once I deliver this I'm fucking off and buying a DBE and embarking on a great trip to the galactic rim

i need to slap my name on some stars
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>>153856963
>Explorer
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>>153856963
>he spend $125 he couldn't afford on a game he didn't research

Indeed.
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>>153856962
Wait, is that really an image of it?
>one fucking month away
Fuck.
Me.
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>>153856963
>did no research into SC
>spends $125 dollars just like that

l o l
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>>153856998
WHY IS GOOGLE NOT SHOWING ME A FORUM POST FOR THIS
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>>153857227

Because I just wrote it, anon. I'm going to use my Caterpillar to start a space club
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>>153857124
Nope, it's an edit.

It's okay anon, watch Star Wars: Rebels to pass the time.
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>>153857124
Nope. It's bait constantly posted with people like you who fall for it.

>>153857254
Will it have modules that allow this? I don't dislike the idea, but I don't even know if it's possible.
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>>153857254
If you say 'verse in this thread one more time you're gonna get lynched
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once a CG ends is there a given amount of time I have to go back and complete it or is it forever?
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>>153857329

Yes. They showed in the whitebox video and talked about how there will be a docking module for the Cat, do you could in theory have multiple of them (one in the front of the stack, one in the back) and basically put another cat up against it with a similar setup. In essence daisy chaining Cats together

>>153857349
Eat shit, you can't take the sky from me.
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>>153857254
Re do it green-text style ITT and I'll give you a bunch of songs.
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>>153857440
You can also daisy chain Auroras, but the daisy chain cats are a more effective station.

Also consider just straightup getting an Endeavor with the crew module & science to turn it into a bar with onboard drug factory.
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>>153857452

> fly out to asteroid belt
> wtf this place is gay it took half my fuel to get here
> oh its some shit club, that faggot at the bar told me i should come here
> whatever im here
> go inside
> why the fuck are there so many neckbeards with guns
> girls fuckin bad boys everywhere, no one pays attention to a nice guy like me
> stand in corner
> my feet hurt
> what the fuck is this music anyway?
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Who else excited about the ursa? The dragonfly really stole the show but I want to see more of the Ursa.
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>>153857637

I thought about the Endeavor route, but that shit is fucking expensive, plus the Cat I think is a pretty shady base. Endeavor feels like it would be a casino boat somewhere in Florida, where a string of Cats feels like some rag tag shithole flotilla off in Venezuela somewhere
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>>153856849
I do. But only because I'm mostly lurking here. I won't be surprised if it's late, but I expect it December.
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>>153857716
top kek I need this in my life

>>153857124
Forgetting about SC is so hard ;_;
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>>153856963
"you get 14 days to request a refund once you buy in so you're fine, even if they take over 14 days to get back to you. They'll treat it as if they are responding on day one so you'll be safe. As I'm sure others have told you the fps issues are due to crappy cryengine netcode and it will be replaced in 3.0 so once that's out, wait for a free fly and try it again and see how it runs."
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>>153857716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWL4Q2zw9No
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>>153857716
>why the fuck are there so many neckbeards with guns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sblR0eIRW-I
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>>153857820
>Who else excited about the ursa?
What's there to be excited about? It's not-Mako and I've yet too see any practical usability aside from "you can drive it and shoot... something".
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>>153857872
Given CIG's way of releasing shit, it's not even "I won't be surprised if it's late, but..." it's "Ok they said X date. add on a month or 2, and we'll start from there."

Not that I'd want them to rush it, but them reaching the deadline would be a miracle. The same thing happened with every other major content release, and most of the minor releases.
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>>153858030
Can carry people, can carry cargo, probably a more stable weapon platform than the dragonfly. What is not to love?
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>poor tier: 25 to 45 bucks
>entry level: 46 to 90 bucks
>good: 91 to 145 bucks
>I hope you have friends tier: 146 to 300 bucks
>absolute madman: above 300 bucks
How true is that for stand-alone ships in SC?
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>>153857716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uLK4hDJC84&feature=youtu.be&t=272
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do you think there will be pirate bases where you can aggro most of them from the air and just kill them with spaceships? Sounds pretty gay. I hope they just stay inside the airlock and shoot at you with turrets
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>>153858262
Seems legit as long you remember the $25 one doesn't get you game access

Glaive is so bad that absolute madman isn't going far enough though
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>>153858607
>tfw glaive

I can also fly it pretty decently, I've been pretty easily taking out SH shitters in the PU but that's mostly because a lot of them try to rely too much on the SH rather than their own ability.
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This is now NMS territory
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>>153857716

This is the only track that can play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4sUFstBPtU
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>>153858875

fuck off sean no one cares about your game
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>>153858875
Really? But there's stuff to do here.
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>>153858607
It's only standalone ships and I took into account the concept sales too.
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>Mouse look in SC is behaving exactly like ED's yaw does

What the fuck
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For comfy.
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>>153859046
You've locked your reticule to your mouse
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>>153858926
Son

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIPWYF_G15M&list=RDQIPWYF_G15M#t=5
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>>153859116
You can do that outside of your ship? Is it the gimbal lock?
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>>153859046
>joystick hat look barely even does anything

2.6 when
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>>153858875
get out, never come back
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>>153859129
Shit, goddamn, this goes hard.
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>>153859129

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA3TI3_ccI0
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https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/344632/what-style-of-music-would-you-expect-a-seedy-space-club-to-play

i fuond u )))

Can we turn Warpup into a new meme that we name drop?
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>>153856998
Jizz
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>>153859845

Yea I just posted it, figured I'd get some more songs for the playlist so I can prune out the shit ones later.
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>>153859845
Can we not?
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>>153859845
If we can block the pass, it'll be easy. All that's left are his War Pups, and War Boys too sick to fight.
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>>153859845

are you like, 12?
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>>153859209
Early October, I'd expect. They'll probably push to get it on the test server before Citizencon so they don't have the current unflyable state making them look bad.
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>>153858250
>Can carry people, can carry cargo
But *why*? What's the point?

>dragonfly
At least it can do stuff in space
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>>153860553
>what is the point of loading a vehicle with a bunch of cargo instead moving them one by one by hand

it is a mystery
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>>153859116
>>153859046

Forgot to mention, I don't think I locked my reticule to mouse. If I go to my hangar shit is perfect
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>>153858250
I think what's he's trying to get at: what can it do that makes it viable over a regular ship that carries it, like a Freelancer (probably MAX) or Constellation?
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>>153860553
>attacking pirate base on barren planet
>sauntering among the craters
>get ass fucked by literally anything

gee. I don't know.
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>>153859845
>puppy play
let me guess he's german too right?
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>>153860852

I hope they add some sort of anti-air cannons on the ground...

Otherwise ground vehicles are basically useless. Why would I not just fly in on top of something, land and shit out all my little men? With my shields up, the infantry weapons aren't going to hurt me.

I imagine almost every "Attack this pirate base" mission will end up with people just hovering in the air blasting them with CF-117s or similar
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>>153860852
The same would be for the Ursa, except it can't fight back as well with a shit turret, has to deal with land, and can't escape at hundreds of m/s.
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>>153861019
Not unless if it's in a cave or some shit, but I highly doubt that'll be common enough. gg Ursa
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>>153858262
>good: 91 to 145 bucks
But avenger is 60 bucks.
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>>153861045
Hopefully the ursa has stronger shields or power plant, but yeah I agree the turret is pretty weak unless it can make up for it in some way.

But I like that the Ursa has more utility in cargo and crew.
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>>153859101
i hope my Anacondas interior is this level of comfy
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>>153859845
My fucking sides

Here's his reddit too
https://www.reddit.com/user/Lawlcat
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>>153861458

Even as a cargo platform... like.. what for?

Just fly your freelancer over to the base itself and push the cargo out the back? Why would I ever need to take a tiny box out of my ship, put it into the rover, drive it over somewhere basically unprotected and slow.

I get it from a lore/immersion standpoint, but I don't see ground vehicles fitting into this gameplay wise
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>>153856998
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3lpoGABH6A
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>>153861567
what's so funny?
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>>153861338
yeah... it has some problems. Like pretty much forcing you to use a ballistic loadout.
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>>153861463
We both know it'll never happen.

It makes me want to tinker with Rodina's ship editor again though. If only it wasn't as limited in props.
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>>153861567
hmmmmm
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>>153861751

Love me some Dance with the Dead. Their newish "The Shape" album is stellar.

See:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQkvAlP8fz8
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>>153859902
What's wrong with your website? It doesn't seem to work.
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>>153861567
>>153861865
Please stop shitting the thread up with your garbage attempts at doxxing.
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>>153861567
>dog avatar
>clear back thrust
>catfacts
>reddit
>lawlcat

wew

But seriously, he seems like he'd fit in nicely with certain folks in /scg/.
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>>153862243
Warpup please, it's alright. Your stuff isn't so bad.
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I wonder how ships docking together will affect shields? Will they each retain their own individual shielding... will the side that is docked lose shields? Will they merge to form a larger bubble as a power of both shield generators?

Latter could be fun
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>>153861621
>i've saw one base
>all bases will be like this
>trust me i am a base expert
>this gameplay element they're planning that I know nothing about is useless
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>>153862570
Not him, I just don't want this to devolve into org posting bullshittery, which looks to be exactly where it's headed.
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>>153862570

Hah, legitimately not me. I don't really know what that guy is trying to do, but I don't really care. I don't post it online if I'm ashamed of someone finding it. The benefits of being an adult and having discipline!
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>>153862627
>pretend to be le-happy-merchant
>actually pirate
>offer rare wares and even power down your weapons
>finally convince them to board and trade
>activate illegal ramming shock shields and disable their ship
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>>153861621
Try the other way around? To push cargo into your ship from a ground spot you can't land at.
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>>153862785
Ah shit you're right. I'm sorry and I'll stop.

>>153862712
Tell me, anon, in how many situations do you see the Ursa being more useful than a ship? Name as many as you can.
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>>153862627
I'm pretty sure they can't 'move' when docked either way
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>>153863021
In every single oppertunity that you need a highly manuverable vehicle for long distance across the fucking planet surface. You know, every oppertunity a rover is needed? Have you ever watched any element of science fiction before?
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>>153863021
Not anon but:

>Transporting cargo to and from isloted ground bases to your ship

>Raiding grounded ships with your friends

>wanting a vehicle that won't flip over on every bump like the memefly

>A vehicle you can listen to Sabaton in

>A vehicle for exploration and sample collecting


And seriously, its comfy as fuck.
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>>153863252

Every element of science fiction has them land the ships far away so they have to have drama on the rover ride to the destination.

In the real world, given ships like we have in star citizen that can literally fly/land anywhere and hover in mid-air, you would just land right next to the place.

It would be one thing if we HAD to land at designated landing areas, or we HAD to have good huge open fields, but the fact is we can land fucking anywhere and just set it down.
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>>153863021
Only reason I can see for using an Ursa is if fuel is expensive enough to want to not waste the stuff
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>>153863021
I can think of a bunch. There will likely be plenty of places a ship can't reach, caves, gulleys, fortified bunkers built into cliffsides, etc, and if there's loot down in them it'd be more effective to go in with the Ursa, load everything up on it, and return to ship than making multiple trips in a dragonfly or worse, on foot.
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>>153863481
How are you going to fly a ship into a cavern, anon? How are you going to fly one underground into a cave? How will you fly one into the confinds of a large base? How will you fly one past AA emplacements?
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So Sothis isn't as great as people made it out to be
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I wish the beluga didn't have wings since it just makes the thing a larger target.
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>>153863481
>In the real world, given ships like we have in star citizen that can literally fly/land anywhere and hover in mid-air, you would just land right next to the place.

Anti-air installations. Elite already has them.
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>>153863697
It's great if you have lots of cargo space.
Otherwise Robigo is the place you're looking for.
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>>153863678

How often do you expect cave bases to be a thing? Probably not as common as you are thinking. If even 10% of all bases were cave bases it would look fucking rediculous and be unrealistic, so you won't see it that often. And even still, how often are you expecting those said cave bases to be large enough to drive a rover around in?

> confines of a large base

Uh, over top of it? And then down? Easy. Worst case scenario I land outside the wall/gate or nearest building. No real need for a rover there. Maybe a hand cart to move some boxes but that's it.

We have seen no indication of AA emplacements, but even still, I'll just fly high into the air and shoot them
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>>153863814
It's so weird that the large luxury ship in SC doesn't have wings yet the luxury ship in E:D does.

A complete change of pase for both.
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>>153863252
>highly maneuverable vehicle across the fucking planet surface

A Freelancer Max (I think it'll be large enough) or a Constellation can fly over the bumpy terrain and won't be slowed down by it, and can also fly off if need be, has better turrets, and much better main weaponry + the additional hull armor, massive shields, and can carry plenty more cargo.

>>153863341
>1
Land next to the base - grav pallets exist for this vary reason. Also, the Ursa would basically fill the entire cargo hold, so you're shooting yourself in the foot.

>2
That would be cool for pure RP reasons, but gameplay wise it's not needed when you can land next to it.

>3
Ships fly. The Dragonfly can also be used in space and is relatively compact

>4
RP?

>5
First viable use. But if that's really all it can do, it's really a hindrance since it takes up a large space in the Carrack or constellation you carry it in.
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>>153863513
ED and SC both have ships running off of hydrogen fusion reactors. Their fuel is literally the most abundant thing in the universe.
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>>153856998
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oeb9UWGSVM0
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>>153864017
Huh?
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>>153863864
Where's the best place around Sothis/Robigo to buy a Python?
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>>153863951
I guess at this point we just need to wait and see, I gave my reasons (comfy armored car with cargo), but we'll just need to see how planets develop to tell.
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>>153864034

The only use I can even consider a ground-based vehicle for would be some kind of stealth operation.

Maybe there is a trading outpost on the ground that tends to have a lot of shitters around (see: GrimHex), so you fly a few miles away out of sight, find a nice rock or valley to tuck your ship away, hop out, lock it, and drive your rover there.

Worst case scenario you lose the rover
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>>153859171
in eva you can turn on freelook for some reason. basically you are swinging your head around without reorienting your body. same button as in cockpit
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>>153864034
You do realise if they're developing rovers then they're also developing gameplay specific to them, right?
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>>153864034

>1

What part of isolated do you have trouble understanding, its a base that is either not accessible by air either because of defenses or lack of clearance.

>2

I mean sure, if you want one of the shitters to sneak onto your ship and steal it.

>3

I'll be sure to be thankful that my now-flipped-over hovercraft can fly in space.

>4

How do you even exist senpai
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>>153863513
The only fuel in SC is Quantum and Jump fuel. They never run out of main thruster or maneuvering thruster fuel. They're fusion reactors or some shit.

>>153863541
Caves, yes I see it being needed for that but I doubt they're going to be common enough to require you bring an Ursa wherever. Gullies can be flown into, or they'd have to specifically make them so that only an Ursa can fit in, which is doubtable given what we've seen of their planet tech so far. And once again, if you're trying to get a load of cargo from some place, how in the hell are you going to bring it into the connie or freelancer when the Ursa takes up almost all of the space?

>>153864384
>stealth operation
now THAT sounds like a good use for it, albeit won't be very common (Just how many stealth missions do they want lol) but that's a viable use. It still doesn't seem like the Ursa is useful to me though. Almost everything it can do can be done by a ship better, faster, and with less worry about some other ships spotting you and one-shotting.

>>153864552
Probably sample collection.
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>>153864552

I hope they add a racing system for ground vehicles.

Specifically the Dragonfly.

I want a race track that requires me to take a huge jump over a canyon, disengage the grav lev boosters, and fly through a canyon with some rings, then come out, land again and keep going
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>>153864017
>large luxury ship in SC doesn't have wings
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>>153864843
best
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>>153864843

Did I hear somebody say best ship?
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>>153864220
That's not a luxury ships, it's basically a space 747
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>>153864220
I still want to make a space airline, but the price for this thing is going to be stupid I imagine.
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>>153864250

space chinaman systems. 15 percent discount
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Why did no one warn me I couldn't buy a Python anywhere near Sothis?
I sold my Python at Mufrid so I could get a Scout that would make the trip to Sothis quicke,r thinking I could bank the money and rebuy my Python at the end of my trip.

FUCK. Now I'm basically just going to fly all the way back, rebuy my Python, and then fly out in it anyway. Fuck.
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>>153864843
>>153864959
>>153865005

Best shipfu coming through.
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>>153865138
Can't remember where, but I heard that transporting NPCs across systems or planets is basically guarenteed, safe UEC.
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>>153865005
Best luxury ship, guys.
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>>153865283
What does that mean? How do I find those?
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>>153865367
>profitable airline
Sci-fi is truly amazing.

But I was talking about the store price for the ship more than anything else. That and the fact that they added silly minigames to passenger transport.
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>>153865520

I stand by my choice
>>153865005
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>>153864017
I get what they were going for with the beluga, "airliner + luxury liner", just looks very out of place when put near other ED ships.
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>>153865520
>>153864843

The avenger is really shit
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>>153865650
Fuck yuo.
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>>153865331

Happy Merchant and Caterpillar is JUSTICE

I fucking love the idea of selling stuff directly from my ship. I want to be an arms dealer of sorts. I must fuel conflict!

>>153865558
I wouldn't count on those mini-games making it into the game.
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>>153865558
>capturing a passenger starliner to get a huge load of slaves to sell

Yes please



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