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Last time on /ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station:
> Shitposting
> Yet more shitposting
> Please stop shitposting

>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server
byond://game.ss13.moe:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>/vg/station forum and logs
http://ss13.moe/forum/
http://game.ss13.moe/logs

>Map renders collection: updated sometimes
http://game.ss13.moe/minimaps/images/maps/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation

>Cryo Autism
http://pastebin.com/raw/YmAyagUa

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/
http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/raw/u40ABfJz
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first for xeno tits
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I feel bad for the guy who got permabanned last round.
And I am mad because security got away, again.
Admins actually defend those shitters.
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>>165224449
I don't understand the wiki guide. I turned it one direction until I got the sound, then I started turning it the other way and nothing happened.
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free them all
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/ss13g/ is honestly approaching the event horizon of /kspg/ tier shittery.

Please make this thread a better place.

Have a bunny.
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Deadmin Zealotron
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>>165224563
Please never stop posting, your xeno pictures are the only bearable waifu.
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>>165224564
Is stabbing someone not logged? I'm trying to make a request but I can't find it there.
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>>165224403
I WANT AVADA TO CHLORAL MEE

CHLORAL MEEEEE
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>>165224681
It should be in the attack logs.
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please stop ruining spess
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>>165224740
this is a nice thread
Please do not mention that name.
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12:24 AM] ScorpiousAvada: i filled the fridge with chems when the chemist wasn't
[12:24 AM] ScorpiousAvada: and the chemist just watched
12:24 AM] ScorpiousAvada: and then i made 15u of chloral
[12:24 AM] ScorpiousAvada: "AVADA MADE CHLORAL SEC ARREST THEM"

15:10:38 [0x2006c3b] (Chemistry - 248,235,1) || 10u of sodiumchloride have been created in a Chem Dispenser, last touched by Avadanatinde
15:10:44 [0x2006c3b] (Chemistry - 248,235,1) || 30u of lipozine have been created in a Chem Dispenser, last touched by Avadanatinde
15:12:42 [0x2006c3b] (Chemistry - 248,235,1) || 5u of chloralhydrate have been created in a Chem Dispenser, last touched by Avadanatinde
15:12:42 [0x2006c3b] (Chemistry - 248,235,1) || 5u of chloralhydrate have been created in a Chem Dispenser, last touched by Avadanatinde
15:12:43 [0x2006c3b] (Chemistry - 248,235,1) || 5u of chloralhydrate have been created in a Chem Dispenser, last touched by Avadanatinde
[15:13:50]ADMIN: HELP: Avadanatinde/(Avada Colander): that vox literally stalked me and watched every single chem dispenser i went to and just alerted sec to my chloral, is that really not metagrudging - heard by 3 non-AFK admins.

HOW DELUDED
CAN ONE PERSON BE
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>[20:49:56]ADMIN: PM: Zealotron/(Sawbones)->Zennyization/(Zenny Hunt): I'm unsure if he's really getting away with it zenny
>[20:50:07]ADMIN: PM: Zealotron/(Sawbones)->Zennyization/(Zenny Hunt): I just don't think it's worth banning him. I told him to stop doing it
Why is sawbones such a pussy?
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>>165224641
how did kspg manage to get so bad? its a rocketship game, isnt it?
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GUTLESS THAT WAS A MISTAKE ITS NOT A PERMA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>165224884
Those can't possibly be all the chems they made.
Please tell me those aren't all the chems they made.
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>>165224886
He's not, he just does not care. He wants all the powers of an admin and none of the responsibilities and passes it off as 'oh they're not worth banning/whatever' when in reality he's just protecting his retarded metabuddies.
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>>165224920
If anyone actually knew why, I don't think it would've became as much of a shit show as it did.
It's a mystery.
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>>165225029
It was
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>>165224920
A very large amount of salt at the game's creators/coders and retards from leddit thinking that shitposting = funny.

Sounds familiar, dunnit?
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>>165225036
And now he's just anonymously shittalking people rather than get involved?
Like. Pottery.
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>>165224886
Context?
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>>165224920
This is a really sad story.

>2010 or 2011 I can't remember
>/v/ threads for ksp
>science nerds are so excited at this extremely rudimentary game with no content because it's so fun

>2012 or whatever it was when /vg/ was made
>/kspg/ becomes a general
>all is good
>a few of the game devs are regulars in the thread

>2013
>the thread has become so entitled because game devs post there that they demand features be added and the game be made only to tailor their wishes
>they obviously don't get this but the devs try to listen to their reasonable demands
>shitposters take over
>if you actually like KSP you're called a retard
>posts about KSP get a reply at best

>2014
>general is just a circlejerk of what little is left

>2015
>like sc2 general, kspg just survives because a few friends shitpost in it all day
>everyone that loves KSP moved to Reddit a long time ago because yes, even Reddit has a better community

>2016
>mods actually ban the general because of how bad it is.
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>>165224970
Oh, wow. I thought it was weird.
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>>165225130
>/ss13g/ and /vg/ station is now within the /kspg/ shitshow event horizon

oh fuck.
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>>165224641
We've survived worse. We're somewhere around early Kojak era /gsg/ right now
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>>165225221
Zenny was ahelping the head of security cutting off his hand because he and the captain are above space law (they're words) and that is what they do to deter thieves.
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>>165225263
>>165225187
>>165225036
>ironically while you are having this discussion he bans someone

wow how enlightening
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>>165225102
Oh my god it's true
What the FUCK
Either they actually think 5U lipozine is filling the fridge, or they're lying in ahelps now
I can't decide which is worse
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>>165225375
>knowing exactly when he bans someone
>tagging everyone talking about him in order to garner attention
>criticizing them for being unenlightened.

Hi.
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>>165225481
are you even reading the thread retard?

>>165225263
>>165224970
I checked the ban list and laughed that it was "He never bans anyone" Zealtron.
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>>165225471
Lying in Ahelps.
Being shit at chem is normal and to be expected of waifushitters.

desu you should make a ban request for this shit, lying in ahelps is a no-no.
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>>165224641
>Bunnies
Reminds me of something I haven't used in a long time. Maybe I'll dust it off.
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>>165225541
>he never bans anyone
That was never said. What was said is that he never bans any of his metafriends/anyone from his little clique.
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>>165225373
>Command staff implementing Shariah law
That's fantastic.

I wasn't there so I'm not sure what else they were up to, if you're not happy with how it was handled you can make a player feedback thread or admin feedback thread
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>>165225649
>command staff implementing shariah law
utterly not fantastic
ebin muslim gimmicks need to go
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>>165225563
>that last one
muh sides
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>>165225638
no, it was said he was a pussy. but now that he banned someone it's said that he's still a pussy he just never bans any of his "friends".

keep it up kid.
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>>165225481
I wonder if he's on damage control yet
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>>165225559
Can't, MrEdge666 and his involvement rule.
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>>165223797
>[20:07:15]SAY: Quelch Quagmire/Arsenugger1996 (@248,236,1) As Galactic Common : i demand the hands of theives be removed
>[20:07:27]SAY: Nick Hawkins/SlashBolt (@250,254,1) As Galactic Common : Captain, that goes against Space law, I'm afraid.
>[20:07:45]SAY: Lewis Theadditude/Swastika2003 (@217,254,1) As Galactic Common : cant deny the cap
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>[20:07:19]SAY: Quelch Quagmire/Arsenugger1996 (@248,236,1) As Galactic Common : to prevent thievery
>[20:08:11]SAY: Quelch Quagmire/Arsenugger1996 (@233,244,1) As Galactic Common : i am going to crack down on crime like president trump did back in the 21st centyry
>[20:24:05]SAY: Lewis Theadditude/Swastika2003 (@224,287,1) As Galactic Common : The capt is the law
>[20:27:29]ATTACK: <font color='red'>Lewis Theadditude(swastika2003) attacked Zenny Hunt(zennyization) with tactical knife. (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)</font>
[20:27:30]ATTACK: <font color='red'>Lewis Theadditude(swastika2003) attacked Zenny Hunt(zennyization) with tactical knife. (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)</font>
[20:27:31]ATTACK: <font color='red'>Lewis Theadditude(swastika2003) attacked Zenny Hunt(zennyization) with tactical knife. (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)</font>
[20:27:33]ATTACK: <font color='red'>Lewis Theadditude(swastika2003) attacked Zenny Hunt(zennyization) with tactical knife. (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)</font>
[20:27:34]ATTACK: <font color='red'>Hachi (soose) was hit by the blue-space tomato thrown by Hachi (soose)</font>
[20:27:34]ATTACK: <font color='red'>Lewis Theadditude(swastika2003) attacked Zenny Hunt(zennyization) with tactical knife. (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)</font>
[20:27:35]ATTACK: <font color='red'>Lewis Theadditude(swastika2003) attacked Zenny Hunt(zennyization) with tactical knife. (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)</font>
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>>165225782
Make it anyways. Fuck Pain, tell him to shove his little metaclub rule down his throat and make it.
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>>165225563
>lover of fine wines
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>>165225841
>hippie shitters being hippie shitters who think they're above the law

Sounds about right. Make a deadmin request for Sawbones not being hard enough on the cancer.
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>>165225841
>just a random line about hachi throwing a blue-space tomato at himself in the middle for no reason
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>>165225638
yeah I don't do that because of the possible bias. I ask other admins to take over for me.
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>>165225563
Do you have a pastebin for these?
I think it might make a fun virus symptom.
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>>165225841
>Swastika2003
>2003
Do we have people who are 14 years old playing on our server?
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>>165225471
It gets worse somehow
>[15:18:50]ADMIN: PM: Avadanatinde/(Avada Colander)->Small_Boss/(Dragan Ivanovich): And it's not even like having chloral is a crime
I thought that was a bald-faced lie when I heard that the first time I heard it in-game, I though it was just an antag excuse the second time I heard it in-game, THEY ACTUALLY FUCKING THINK CHLORAL IS NOT AGAINST SPESSLAW WHAT THE FUCK?
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I'd like to see the next "last time on /ss13g/" to be something else besides "Shitposting" and "Drama".

Can we make the dream real?
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>>165226341
No
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>>165226160
>haha - i-i'm not a shitter

See above. You're one of the worst admins we have ever had, on par with SJ. Fuck off and die, we don't need you and you definitely do not need to be or deserve to be an admin. You have done nothing for this community, and in fact, you have made it worse by bringing faggots like Avada in.
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>>165226341
Yeah, lets talk about the best gear setup for sec
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>>165226430
You can hold cigarette packets on sec belts now
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real talk: did I just vagblast your waifu with a harm baton and she paged you 911 and you logged on is this whats happening here?
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>>165226369
You wound me, anon.
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>>165226207
I do now. Didn't bother to edit. Use at your own risk.
http://pastebin.com/5xZvrK9X
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>>165226430
I like the office clothes they have in the locker coupled with a cap, I don't care if wearing anything else besides default red singles me out for being a wannabe attention fag!

actually I do care and I think it's a shame that you can't wear a beret without summoning stereotypes of waifus/husbandos.

I also unironically like the security satchel because it makes your sprite harder to click because you don't have a brick sticking out from your back when your facing left and right.
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>>165226430
SPS and flash in pockets.
Sec belt loaded with the contents of one sec locker, + tazer you spawn with in there too.
Suit storage slot empty.
Helmet on head, gasmask on, and white sec uniform, since red is bad luck for any sort of security personnel in space settings and the white uniform looks sharp, too.
Satchel loaded with two donuts in the survival box, two handcuffs, and an evidence bag.

For bonus points, switch the base cell out of your stunbaton for a highcap for better, longer beatings.
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>>165226261
Any amount of chloral under 15u is legal.

Any amount over 15u is illegal.

T. Space Judge.

Also

AVADA IS


[SPOILER] DUMB DUMB DUMB, JUST MAKE CHLORAL VIA GHETTO CHEM IN LITERALLY 5 CLICKS [/SPOILER]
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>>165226727
>those AI law ones
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>>165226901
That is wrong. Chloral is technically illegal, not that that's going to keep me from keeping a spare autoinjector with it around. Good stuff for when wizzybusiness comes to town and wants to fuck up med/clown is trying to dump the cryo mix/people are generally just being shit.
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>>165226901
an autoinjector of chloral is a very potentially lethal weapon, it's illegal in any form
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>>165227050
Why do people feel the need to make chloral auto injectors every round
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>>165227108
refer to >>165227028

It's a good 'just in case' for when people inevitably try to get their shits and giggles fucking with med.
Fuck with med, get fucked by med.
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what do you think avada's feet smell like? haha just wondering
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>>165227108
because they're shitter powergamers and deserve to be banned, there's almost no reason to do it unless you're either an antag, valid-hunting or in a messy medbay.
And there's no valids to hunt at round start, so why the fuck are they doing it.
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>>165226727
>Discount Dan is a fuckfaced baby-rapist.
holy shit I remember this being used
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>>165227050
>Items capable of major damage such as bone saws, axes, hatchets, drills, guns, flashes, stun batons and dangerous chemicals all fall under this category. Do remember that if it is an item that is part of their job they are permitted to carry it, but it might be confiscated if they commit another potentially more violent crime with that weapon.

By your interpretation Carrots are a lethal weapon, poppies are a lethal weapon, Nutriment is a lethal weapon.

The Dose is what makes it lethal. Not the chemical itself.

>>165227028
Where in Spacelaw does it specify that chloral is illegal?

How are you defining dangerous?
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addiction and withdrawal mechanics when

i don't want to code it
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>>165227219
a 30ish second complete stun and silence isn't potentially lethal? are you retarded?
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A scientist offers you two pills, one bans all waifu fags from the thread, the other deadmins and perma bans an admin of your choice. Which do you take?
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>>165227184
>t. shitter who got dunked on by med after they tried to fuck with med

Fuck with med, get fucked by med.
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>>165227262
More like 50 seconds.
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>>165227219
The bit in spacelaw about dangerous chemicals being illegal without authorization, medbay workers are allowed to carry chloral but if they use it without good reason then they're breaking a different law
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>>165227281
I main medbay you faggot, and I hate all of you who just instantly start making chloral at roundstart. There's no reason for it at all.
I bet you play CMO and take a chloral hypospray
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>>165227264
The first one.
Even if I had a grudge against any of the admins, that's not my fucking choice to make, it's the admins'.
Waifuposting is just objectively shit and nobody will complain that it's gone.
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>>165227264
deadmin pill
sawbones
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>>165227262
What you're arguing here is essentially "MUH POTENT HAAMS" when everyone knows the chief use of chloral among medical is removing shitters from medbay. I cannot even count the number of times it has saved me and my coworkers from murderboning faggots, clowns trying to destroy all our work, and greytides trying to fuck up everything we do.

>>165227362
Nope. I main MD and have never loaded the hypo with chloral, it's retarded to do that on a fundamental level. Stop being salty that some people actually have the balls to dish out punishment to shitters instead of sitting around crying about it.
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>>165227262
>Not chugging water until your hit the chem cap
>Auto Injector injects .23334 , there are 4.7231U's remaining.

>Stun and Silence
>Lethal

It may allow a lethal act to occur. But no, a stun and silence are not lethal by themselves.

If you consider stuns and silences to be lethal, then you must also confiscate Sleepers, and Cryotubes.
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>>165227421
>would let the game suffer to help the thread

neck yourself, my man
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>>165227264
Deadmin pill.
Sawbones. Remove the metaclub from power and it will gradually diminish in size until they are no more.
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>>165227510
>it's retarded to do that on a fundamental level.
I offclass "validhunter" and it's the best shit ever. Walk up to a wizard, nuke op, whatever, one click and they're done.
You have to be powergaming with speedy diona to get the latter to work, because then you'll be immune to their bullets.
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>>165227421
>Even if I had a grudge against any of the admins, that's not my fucking choice to make, it's the admins'.
You sound like such a beta holy shit.
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>>165227231
Well..
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>>165227523
Good to know I can push you down and cable cuff you for the entire round.

Its not lethal, even though lethal things can happen, so its all okay.
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>>165227631
I don't validhunt. Chloral is for keeping medbay safe and sound, not going out on the streets playing Mr. Vigilante man, and a chloral hypo is asking for trouble since all it takes is a single stun or lucky disarm and suddenly, the valids have 30 units of chloral to kill you and other people with.
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>>165227231
first we need to fix chems not having potentially lethal overdoses to stop people chugging 400 anti-toxin
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>>165227739
This. Everything needs to have an OD limit, I guarantee it'll massively cut down on ebin chem powergaming.
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>>165226850
Shit set up senpai, do you even power game? Survival box is full set of tools, pockets is air tank and SPS, belt is baton, flash, two cuffs, two flash bangs and a bag. Back pack as medkit, two tasers, a full box of donuts, a spray bottle with water and welding helmet
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pAI's no longer being able to enter mules when?
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>>165227729
Everyone knows the best hypo is ethanol for on-the-go alcoholism
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>>165227835
>hating fun
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>>165227825
Powergaming is gay as fuck my man.
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>>165227835
>hating fun
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>>165227835
>shitter that got rekt by a pAI
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>>165227808
Most stuff does, but most of them can be offset by just chugging a tonne of anti-toxin and then riding it out.
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>>165227897
>>165227935
>fun

>steal someone's car whenever I can because I have a magical key that let's me take it wherever I want
>he wants me to no longer have that key so that I stop breaking into his garage
>"hurr why do you hate fun"
You grayshits are ruining cargo.
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>>165228109
what
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>>165228109
lmao its just a fucking game man stop being so autistic or go back to bay and stop shitting our servr up
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>>165228187
How about YOU go back to hippie you shitter.
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>>165227908
I need to optimize my load out more, thinking about ghetto Cheming a chloral hypo for prisoner control
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>>165228187
his metaphor was kind of shit but he has a very valid point.
pAI mule is one of the most robust things on the server right now and it is annoying to see it quite literally every round.
It's just as bad as the syndiechair, and any antag can get one easily and without raising any suspicion.

I don't think it should be removed, because I can't deny that it is fun to play as, but it really needs to be changed in some way.
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>>165227202
I dont get it
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>>165227835
I don't mind them being able to control MULEs.
But how about NOT making them a million miles an hour.
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>>165227835
>it's a "shitter pAI hijacks a MULE and screams bloody murder if you put a stop to its shit" episode
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>>165228702
pAIs don't kill people.
Shitter humans that put them into MULEbots and then hack those MULEbots kill people.
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>>165228784
pAI players visibly get off on a free turboshitter token and play pAI for the SOLE purpose of being some shitter's shitter-pal in a MULE

they should be wiped out alongside their shitter masters
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http://pastebin.com/Ux2ViRJc
>[18:00:21]ADMIN: PM: Scribnibblers/(Kaname Chidori)->Pseudonym/(borer (709)): real talk: did I just vagblast your waifu with a harm baton and she paged you 911 and you logged on is this whats happening here?
gets me every time
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Yo probe, you up nigga?
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>>165225841
>being featured as the voice of reason

h-heh, why thank you~
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>>165224403
> Censored Guide to StaticFagging

We all love getting thread (you)'s.

The optimal way to get them is to staticfag, and have people notice you.

However, at a certain point a static name can become undesirable.

The optimal lifespan for a Static name is 1-4 weeks depending on profssion. Higher visibility roles and play styles typically have shorter life spans.

At a certain point in a static names lifespan the (you)'s stop being postive and turn into jealous Randomfaggers complaing and whining about you. At this point it's generally best to pick a new static. As most people who have been whined about in the thread for extended periods have gotten banned at one time or another.

Just make a new Static, and collect the you's and repeat.
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>>165228926
>pAI players visibly get off on a free turboshitter token
Then that's an administration problem and you should complain to the admins.
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>>165229127
I've staticnamed for nearly two years.
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>>165229127
What if I play static because I enjoy having a character with a backstory and a life outside the station and generally enjoy roleplaying over being a giant attentionwhore?

>inb4 'go back to bay'
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tfw unwilling juggernaut got them greenies by murdering literally everyone
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>>165228981
>ahelping because you got killed
>while holding a syndie balloon
Jesus Christ, worst waifu.
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>>165224368
Who is this? I'm a little spooked.
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>>165226727
>actually posting it
You fucking madman what have you done I dont know how to read any of this how do I use it
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>spent half the shift cuffed and floating in space
t-thanks
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Bay tier players are undeniably the best ones we have
you literally cannot dispute this fact, name one legitimate bay-player who also plays/played here and was guilty of doing the things that hippie/TG fags do
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>>165229531
100%, but scribnibblers is a fucking saltmine through these logs. Like seriously just explain yourself and you'll be in the right 99% of the time ahelps like this happen
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>>165229102
Hello.

>>165227835
I'm insisting sanity be added to it as quickly as possible. It bypasses every attack delay we have and was a big oversight on our part to merge.

It's interesting and fun for pAIs to control mules and even be harmful about it but having something both stun you and do 15 damage every half second while traveling at nearly phazon speed is pretty fucking "whoops".
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>>165229531
Call him a shitter but she knows her rights
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>>165229602
I'M SORRY

I would have soul-stoned you but hearing that comms were back on was a fucking spook.
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>>165229616
Would it be possible to make it so the radiation that jukeboxes emit is collectable using radiation collectors? It'd be sweet to have a new breed of meme engines.
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Okay, time to end the debate once and for all.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12081275/
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>>165229702
They were pretty much on like, five minutes after the shard exploded.
I think the EMP turned everyone's headset speakers off or something and nobody noticed though
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>>165229752
>carry around toy dart gun
>HoS shoots you dead
>it looked real :)
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>>165229729
Yes.

By rewriting how the entire thing exists and probably a sizable amount of how engines exist.

I had this meme idea once too and was really disappointed.
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>>165229858
That's not remotely the same situation as the balloon and you know it.
Especially because it DOESN'T look real, since when you examine them it says "toy dart gun".
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>>165229752
>balloon
ok lets argue about this
>emag
you're in big fucking trouble unless you can prove you got it from someone.
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>>165229790
if it's any consolation I spent the latter half of the round inside the cargo warehouse, trapped. my just desserts.
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>>165229862
Aw, that's a shame. I'd love to see some new autism toys for engineering. I heard that someone is working on making the AME more complex. Is that true?
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>>165229752
http://www.strawpoll.me/12081285
Better poll since the previous one essentially casts a blanket over anything, including the most innocuous shit like a balloon or a raincoat.
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>>165229915
Nice.
Why didn't your conversion work by the way? I assume you were converting me, anyways.
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>>165229895
Balloon is a completely different league than the weapons. Every time I've bought a balloon, people ended up carrying it with them because it was funny or a trophy or something.
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>>165229987
>raincoat
You can make those with plastic.
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>>165229970
It is true. https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/issues/13264

And I agree we should give engineering new toys.
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>>165230041
We had two cultists and only one word relevant to the conversion rune. I had just been guessing, but the only word I knew was "Self" and I could have had you over any rune that ended in "self."

Actually, this predicament was the primary reason our strategy shifted to "convert via soulstones" in the latter half of the round.
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>>165229987
Yes, I believe that's the point. A raincoat can be made from plastic flaps. A balloon cannot be obtained without the uplink, admin help, or by cracking the safe in the syndi armoury vault (which is already filles with syndi goodies). Its description in the uplink even mentions blowing your cover, but you're currently not allowed to act on it.
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>>165230135
Literally
a fucking
balloon
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>>165230113
thats why we should fix the r-ust
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>>165230173
That blows THE DEEPEST OF COVERS.
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>>165226901
It's 100% illegal in any amount, that's the risk of carrying it.
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>>165230196
Go for it.
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Emagging a slot machine so it rapidly shoots out your winnings in 1 credit chips at you with a lethal velocity when?
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>>165230210
it's just a balloon with an S on it my man
would you shoot someone IRL for carrying a balloon with an N for 'nazi' on it or a C for 'communism'?
if so,
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>>165230173
Nuke please go
It's a balloon which advertises the Syndicate, tells you when you buy it that it'll blow your cover, and is intended to be used to show that you're robust and don't need to hide.
Tell me then, how is it just a balloon?
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>>165230236
This is why no one respects or takes security seriously.
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>>165230067
I'm pretty sure the "Raincoat" is tator exclusive, as the one made from plastic has a slightly different name, like Plastic Coat, or something similiar.
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>>165230173
Why don't people use the "it's JUST a ---" argument for any other item in the game

People call the shuttle the instant people see the Nuke Ops uniforms, where's all the people saying "Guys we don't know for sure if it's Nuke Ops or not, they're literally JUST wearing spacesuits."
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>>165230267
Would you drug someone IRL for walking into your workplace?
Would you cave their head in with a toolbox?
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>>165230173
>an emag is just an ID with wires
>a suspicous toolbox is just a fucking toolbox

I agree desu
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>>165230173
>>165230332
>>165230270
I agree that it SHOULD make you valid on sight but we have agreed it does not so I accept that.

If you wanna have a big gay fight and change that make sure to go to the forums where we handle administrative/policy fights.
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>>165230332
>the clown that says the S stands for security
that always gives me a chuckle
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some days i go onto spess and i want to rp

some days i go onto spess and i want to kill shitters 'n hunt valids

you take one with the other, for to do both is to be a true spaceman
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>>165230238
how much would i have to commission you to fix it
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>>165230113
Neat changes, but I'm worried about it being TOO good with straight increases to how it performs with just a little bit of plasma. It shouldn't be able to trump an SME without like 20 cores or some shit.
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>>165229616
>but having something both stun you and do 15 damage every half second while traveling at nearly phazon speed is pretty fucking "whoops".


that's fine when it's a regular mule that can't be manually controlled


either make it so pais can't be mules anymore or have cargo buy a "smart" mule that doesn't kill everyone the second an antag gets their hands on it
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How does RP hurt people? Why do so many autists whine about RPers?
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>>165230597
just make it so they have to pick between super speed or being able to bump people, else if both are on, the PAI won't work on the mule.
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>>165230642
THE POINT OF THE GAME IS TO KILL THE ANTAG. NOT RP.

N O ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR FUCKING RP DRAMA. YOU JUST CLUTTER UP COMMS WHEN WE COULD BE USING THEM TO GIVE THE GPS CORDINATES OF THE ANTAGS.

If Mikecari was still around you RP shitters wouldnt even be alive for more than 2 minutes. The game is about getting valids and sharding Shitter RP'ers who dont set up power fast enough.
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>>165230642
look at all these people talking and being interesting

i wish i was in chem making chloral right now

did he just emote?

my legs hurt

why don't they just call the shuttle? all i want is an antag roll

i wonder where the clown is, i could probably get away with killing him

what do you mean "bayfag slayer" isn't an acceptable name?

don't these people get that you have to kill the antags to win?

can we end the round yet
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>>165230903
and the sad thing is that there are people who actually believe this
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>>165230903
could someone link the "how to be a good boss guide" by Mikecari, please?
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>>165230985
I do believe that you RPing fagitron
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Oh man, look! It's the first time I ever built a room in space!

I modified the distro line to add a valve allowing me to quickly fill extra N2 canisters, and Pomf noticed. And nothing went wrong, miraculously.

This was also the first time I played a Vox, since I wanted to do the N2 room.
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>>165231082
It got moved to the archive of stupidity lmao
http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=3389
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>>165230934
I remember doing an arcade gimmick as a dude in a wizard costume named "The Wizard". I set it up in the vacant office at arrivals, and originally it was completely innocent, but I wanted a grand prize for someone who could bring me a certain amount of arcade toys. I prayed for a grand prize to give my players, and got the fairy wings that make you fly. I thanked the god for the prize and started advertising. I didn't notice that the god told me that he made the stakes a little higher, now that such a prize was involved. The admin made my machines Cuban Pete machines that never would reset. I think around 6 people died because of it.
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>>165231260
I think I remember something similar to that, I think there was adminbus involved or a dedicated mechanic, one shift escape was filled with cuban pete arcade machines. By the time I showed up, it was full of gibs.
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Dunno why I saved this, but hey, look, Pete Zuh is in it
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>bay has cargo trolleys and a ton of other shit that you can just outright murder people with with no work involved

Why? Do they not care about powergamers or some shit? Christ, their server must be fucking riddled with that shit.
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>>165231641
Bay bans powergamers for not RP-ing enough.
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>>165231670
Thats fucking stupid
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>>165231641
No because you need to write a fucking essay explaining why your character is justified in so much as stunning someone.
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>>165229987

>Being a complete faggot that jump on a guy who has a balloon or wear a coat that you can make yourself with plastic

If you aren't security, you shouldn't care unless you're on /tg/ where all the valid-hunting kiddies never get their shit slapped and has the admin a-ok to kill whoever they want if they enter their department, even if it's medbay. If you're really butthurt about the balloon, just pda your local officer or AI
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Alright, last one, promise.

Note the PDA time, and remember that station time starts around 12:05 due to lobby time and initialization stuff.

>fireball wizards
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>>165231641
Their server isn't full of validhunters and shitters like ours, just faggots (like ours)
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>>165231706
>being this wrong and this hyperbolic
Have you ever actually played a round on bay without trying to play it like Hippie?
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>>165231525
Pete Zuh is a literal retard.

He's lucky hes so fucking shit at the game or else people would complain about him.

>Runs into the the Brig nearly every round
>Doesn't say anything
>Won't respond why he keeps running in
>Runs in through the back door near medbay then runs away
>Hide in a backroom
>Wait a few minutes
>He's trying to hack the door into the Armory Staging area
>Arrest him
>He's a paramedic
>Not even a single fucking medkit
>Just random stolen shit from areas he has access to
>This happens literally every round
>When you try to talk to him
>"dude stfu , just get this over with already"
>"stfu man"
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>>165231818
As a matter of fact, I have, and I hated it. You seem to enjoy it though, so why don't you just go play there instead?
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>>165231853
He's still around? I thought he got Baned
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>>165231972
>he can't enjoy things unless he's allowed to turn it into a FFA deathmatch
>he thinks anyone who doesn't want to play FFA deathmatch shouldn't play here

Yeah nah fuck yourself mate, and stop lying.
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>>165232128
he's shitposting you dipshit
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Assuming no/very limited coding experience, what are some good resources to learn how to code with Dream Maker.
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>>165232190
Do you understand these basic coding concepts, in any language?

>If/else if/else statements
>For each element loop
>Object oriented programming
>Inheritance of methods / extending a parent
>Variables
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>>165232190
We have some guides on the wiki.
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Guides#Contributions_and_Admin_Guides
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>>165231767
That's going in the folder
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>>165232190
If you already know a language then just look at some code and see if you can figure out how it works, it's OOP and kinda like python. If you don't know anything about code then just have a go at one of the issues on the github and ping the coders on discord whenever you get stuck (don't tell them I said that though)
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>>165230573
I can't actually code so give me a few thousand dollars and a semester.

>>165230579
I feel the same way and wondered about that but we'll see what he codes.

>>165230597
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/13386

I should say outright that this is a massive oversight and exploit. We have attack delays. This does not and has two other major issues even when you toss out the lack of attack delays.

As a regular mule, it will never drive over you repeatedly. So yeah that's a totally different thing. One we didn't anticipate.
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>>165232437
>As a regular mule, it will never drive over you repeatedly.
I've seen mules derp and accidentally crush people to death while trying to get into places. especially in the cargo lobby.
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>>165224403
Don't look at this image. Just Don't DO IT.
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>>165231641
Literally everything we port from Bay has to have scrutiny because of how it was designed.

It was designed by a server that has security for roleplaying purposes and not boot-to-neck keep the crew in line purposes. Their admins do the job our security does.
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>>165232528
Yeah it happened to me once.

Once. In the history of playing here.
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>>165232306
i understand the first and last.

thank you, roblox
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Attempt #1 at massively parallel SME engine failed
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>>165232605
everybody look at this image please
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>>165232782
Understanding inheritance (which is a key part of object oriented programming) is probably the most important part of coding for BYOND.

Imagine each thing you see in the world as one of the following: Area, Turf, Object, Mob. Suppose that for any given object, it is a "child" of one of these four classes. A child "inherits" every characteristic from its parent, but characteristics can be overridden.

For example, a Janicart is a child of chair. Like a chair, you can buckle into it and rotate it, but it has special behaviors of its own -- like movement and destruction when shot. So you see, there is no need to re-write the buckle-into code for the Janicart. It "inherits" that behavior from its parent, chair.
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>>165233007
Oh, I also know inheritance from my brief stint in Gamemaker!!

I can visualize how making new guns would work(modifying projectile, effects of projectile), but what about the stuff like genetics, blood content?
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Can we please ban Avada already, I am sick of them and their foot fetish degenerate bullshit. I thought that they were already told to knock it off with the erp bullshit last time they got a ban, and yet multiple times today they have done this shit. I mean at this point it's a fucking step above just being a toe the line shitter.

For real though, rule 0 avada when.
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>>165231853
I have a note for stabbing him to death with a screwdriver after he pushed me once.
I was fed up.
Worth it.
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>>165233150
This is an all too common mistake. You don't actually want to imagine genetics. You don't want to look at genetics. You just pray nothing about it ever breaks and pretend it doesn't exist until someone who doesn't know what they're in for volunteers to improve genetics.
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>>165233150
You don't need to understand genetics to do anything that doesn't involve genetics. Genetics is terrible to read and most people don't understand how it works and are afraid to touch it, which is why it hasn't been updated in so long. It's really disorganized and has no commenting.

The most important thing to remember is that for almost anything you want to do, someone has probably already done it somewhere in the game already. So if you know how to ctrl+f (all files) for the name of something you know does something similar, you can always find a practical example in the code.
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>chemist
>do my job
>CMO praises me
>other doctors praising me
>feelsgoodman
>entire medbay ready for the wild ride
>shuttle is called because cult stubbed the captains toe
>everything in the fridge is just left unused

ok
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>>165233424
>didn't give the captain bicaridine for his foot injury

5/10
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>>165233424
that was the last time I played chemist too
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>>165233474
i honestly dont even know if the captain existed or if the clown took the spare

i dont care anymore
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>deadpool is banned
Thank fuck, I've been waiting forever.
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>>165234215
maybe the ban was justified but i think it was uncalled for to kill him in real life
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>>165234263
He can regenerate from any injury short of death, including a ban
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>Get stain on a new shirt I got for christmas
>It's not entirely white so I can't just use bleach

WHAT DO I DO
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>>165234682
just put it in any washing machine located in arrivals or leave it under a shower for a few seconds
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>>165234682
Quick! You're going to need to blog post literally anywhere else than here fag! before it sets in!
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>>165234682
Get rid of it
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>>165235147
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>>165224563
xeno.. tumtum!
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>>165231128
>ok good
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>>165235554
xeno tummies are the best tummies
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My name is the legendary and the world renowned shitposting legend the 2hotdogs and I am live streaming this shitpost so hear this message I am telling you nuklearcellphone im calling you out: kys. unban me. the curse of 2hotdogs will never be lifted as long as I am still banned. This message will self-destruct.
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>>165231853
>>165231525
Wait, I thought he got perma banned for ick ocking in the thread?
Why is he back? How is he allowed back when he is still constantly toeing the line?
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>>165236549
he does his best
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>>165236613
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y98sAtATWLA
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>>165235147
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>>165236487
great bait mait
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Where could i find the random gifs that appear at the beginning of a round?
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>sextupleloose
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>>165230267
>you wouldn't do something in a video game because you wouldn't do it in real life

Kill yourself
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>>165237824
>icking in ock
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>>165237920
>you wouldn't roleplay in a roleplaying game

Kill yourself
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>yfw you will never taste Viktor's wine made from his organs as he ages 14 billion years in an instant
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It worked until the meatfags in Engineering destroyed the AAC
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>>165237547
lobby gifs? on github
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
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>>165238526
>vents
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>>165238526
>VENTS
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>>165238526
7.25 Gigawatts!
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>>165238581
>>165238593
W-What's wrong with vents?
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>>165238752
you give mommis a bad name
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>MULEbot wires get screwed up by being hit by any projectile, and it can't knock over people who are buckled to a chair

Can confirm this is false, I was buckled up in my chair playing lottery and it would stun me down when crushing me, then put me back onto my seat.
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connection failed?
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>>165238934
the curse is felt once more
unban he or face further consequence
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>>165239459
it worked a second later.
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>>165238581
>>165238593
fence?
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>>165238752
nothing, but usually people use injectors and scrubbers.
there is not a real reason to hate vents there.
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>>165239962
injectors are higher capacity but really you should use what fits your project and while injectors may be in all cases better for traditional supermatter setups there isn't anything inherently wrong with using the pipe that meets your demands.
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>>165239761
UNBAN HE
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>>165240094
wow a proxypoll
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>Clown
>Brigged for 6 minutes but uncuffed
>Spare in one hand and handtele in the other
>Could open the door and PDA slip the sec, locking him in the cell
>Could just use handtele to escape to the satelite
>Instead I wait for him to come in to let me out and yank him through a handtele portal into the main brig area because I thought it would be funny
>Stay in open cell so I can *honk when he gets backed
>Flashed cuffed stripped naked and brigged for 5 more minutes
Crime doesn't pay.
I should go back to playing yakkety tag with security instead of letting myself get apprehended all the time.
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>>165240189
ASSBLASTED THE COMMUNITY GENUINELY VOTED FOR 2HOTDOGS TO BE UNBANNED AND NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR QUEER FAGGOT GAY LITTLE NIGGER GRUDGE
LET IT GO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJNbWSewt-s
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Unban Scribnibblers!!!
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>Ban morena
>complain that nobody ban requests shitters like Avada
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>>165240428
Why do you keep making this exact same post, morena?
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>>165240679
unban 2hotdogs
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unban he https://youtu.be/4PvaSyXOr3w
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>>165229654
It's not about rights though. It's not like the badmins were just going to respawn her because they thought her death was unjust. She did it solely to be a spiteful bitch.
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Unban dawhatdafox. It's unfair to expect someone to understand that guns kill people after only ten chances.
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>>165232832
Why multiple chambers?
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>>165241250
I miss Sue.
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>>165241250
I still don't understand why we let that guy be such a shitter for so long and get away with it so many times.

He was permabanned fom hippie for being such a tiding and griefing fucker, how did the admins not ban him before hippie did.
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>tfw i want to cuddle with the pink haird assistant
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>>165240234
>playing yakkety tag with sec
Please do not. I would rather suicide succumb IRL than go back to chasing you through portals for two hours
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DESTRUCTIVE DISASTER - Our own DIY Bombs Cash Hardie was brutally killed during a bomb review for my newsfeed. Earlier review proceeding were interrupted when our local NT Default borg relieved Cash of his hand when a window was explosively deconstructed. When asked for comment on his death, Cash declined to comment.
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>>165236487
Glimrende! Jeg vil folge du ords. Desværre, den forstre ordre er KYS, um........

Så jeg kan ikke unforbud du.
Undskyld ven...
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>>165242752
Hvad prover du at sige?
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>>165242752
Nuke, did you really learn nordic just to insult 2hotdogs and shitpost?
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>>165240409
The ban seems to be related to Ick Ock, and not syndicate stuff?
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>>165242913
Jeg er ikke en mand. Jeg er manden.
>>165242891
Hvad jeg vil.
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>>165238752

Ignore all atmos critque in the thread. People will call you shit just for the sake of it not being them setting it up.
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>>165242752
i dont speak cuck tongue you cuckold grudge monkey so congratulations on wasting hours of your life on me
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>>165241467
not him but probably redundancy, you can take one offline while you fix the other
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>>165244296
Y-you too
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Ability to weaponize xenomorphs when?
Also the xenobio should have more tools or whatever to experiment on other xenos from the roid. The whole lab is for slimes and its kidna boring.
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>>165244296

Tabet er dit
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>>165244858
Xenobio used to be metroids but was changed for reasons.
We all know how real xenos in xenobio ends up, don't kid yourself. Although a hound style xeno could be cool with the new wolf code.
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>>165245405
Nothing ever really goes wrong unless you get a queen and give her a nice bunch of monkeys.
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When is 2hotdogs gonna sue the server like he said he would? Or did he find out how legitimately retarded he is for that idea.
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>>165228498
Remove the safety wire. Emagging the mule overrides safeties. Boom, fixed.
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>>165245464
A drone, queen, or facehugger can all start a xeno outbreak. Even if it was a blood gold core one the xeno AI goes to work.
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>>165246184
Eventually there will be so many reasons to get an emag that there will be no reason to ever not get one.

It's already optimal traitor to buy one if you're not going with the uplink/freedom/ebow build
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>Kammerjunk rating pictures of huge dicks on discord
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>>165246689
>not liking fat cocks

desu senpai your a faggot hth
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>>165246689
SJ IS GONNA FREAK..
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>>165246807
>not preferring feminine dicks
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>>165246689
>kammerjunk teaching nuke her language in the discord
it's fascinating to watch in a strange way
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>>165246689
I'd let Kammer rate my dick desu.
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>>165247047
>kammer will never rate your dick
>she will never judge it based on size, taste, and feel
why live anymore
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Why is kammerjunk here? Are they attractive? They must have a flaw that caused them to wind up with us
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>>165247807
Why are any of us here? Probably terminal autism.
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>>165247047
>>165247510
>>165246689
DO NOT LEWD THE KAMMER.

KAMMER IS PURE!
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>>165247858
>tfw going to denmark in the summer
gonna hit her up for some oogieboogie boys
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>>165244858
That's why the deff xenobio is the best, because it has a LONE lazarus injector
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>>165230173
>have an item in the game whose ONLY purpose is to make valid on sight, and it VERY CLEARLY SAYS SO WHEN YOU BUY IT

>hey I have a great idea
>let's turn that item into an item whose ONLY purpose is to banbait
Nuke is a fucking retard.
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>>165247953
Stay the hell away from Kammerjunk, she's too good for you all.
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>>165248065
I'll report back to the thread with how her feet taste
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>>165229903
>catch a labcoat with an emag
>'durr i just tele'd it and used it to boost machines why are you confiscating one of the most dangerous items on the station'
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>>165226901
>>165227219
>Avada "REEE YOU CAN'T TASE ME TO MAKE AN ARREST IN CODE BLUE YOU NEED TO ASK ME FOR PERMISSION FIRST READ THE SOP FUCKING SHITCURITYYY!!!" Colander
>doesn't know anything about space law
What a fucking world we live in.
I mean I suspected it when they said stealing the handtele is not illegal because "it's not a dangerous item" but I thought they were joking.
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>>165227219
Also:
Even if your logic wasn't retarded enough, YOU CANNOT OVERDOSE ON IMIDAZOLINE OR NUTRIMENT
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>>165248517
>>165248618
This needs an Avada/chloral edit
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Carbons; not even once.
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>>165249218
borgs that don't know how to follow laws; too many times.
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>>165248189
>implying
kammer is too pure to have a feet fetish
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crab
>cute by default
>bros with other silicons
>make crab friends by working on projects with other crabs
>don't get caught up in carbon drama
>physically more capable than carbons in every way
>everything you need is free
>can ventcrawl

carbons
>never cute by default, that's a reputation you need to establish and build
>suspicious of almost every other carbon
>no cool crab projects except for engineering which is always understaffed
>drama drama drama drama drama drama drama drama drama drama drama drama drama drama drama shitposting drama drama drama
>easily succumb to pressure, radiation, diseases, temperature, etc
>nearly everything you need must be collected in some capacity and can be stolen
>cannot ventcrawl

why even bother bros
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>>165246689
Does he have good taste?
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>>165249358
She doesn't have to, just gotta convince her to let me have a go, and when she's in pure ecstasy from my fat cock I don't think she'll mind desu.
this is my last shitpost i can't seriously believe people post stuff like this seriously
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>upgrade cameras with carrots
>decide to bake one last carrot cake
>vending machine shoots shit at me
>pulse wires to stop it
>die
Feels bad Borers you were real bros
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>>165249547
no
keep going
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Silicons players litteraly are suppressed nerds who are ready to go full columbine when they get the chance.
You cant refute me cause you know that i am right.
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>>165249640
maybe borg and AI players

I know at least 2 crabs who would HATE to be emagged in the middle of a project one being me
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>>165249752
Thats because MoMMI's are supreme, Pure Grade Autism can not and will not be corrupted by any evil.
>tfw i hate the living shit out of cult and whenever i get converted i keep going with my autism and pretend i just dont understand how to cult when others are pressuring me to do stuff.
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>>165249874
>Not carrying the Null Rod in your backpack at all times
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>>165249309
See this is what carbons say; but it is in fact the carbons giving incorrect orders that causes them to think this.
Carbons are stupid.
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>>165249592
why not just add me on steam to erp? my steam is id/senaat1, start with a dick pic
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>>165249996
LIST OF COMPLETELY VALID ORDERS THAT HAVE BECOME DE-FACTO INVALID BECAUSE OF EXCESSIVE SILICON LOOPHOLING SHITTERY
>kill yourself
>blow X borg
>open your upload (as human captain who has caused 0 harm)
>arrest somebody else (without releasing me) (as human who has caused harm)
>release me (as human who has caused 0 harm)
>release me (as human who has caused harm, but no longer shows any remotely plausible intent to harm or reason to believe their release would lead to harm)
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>>165249465
>crab
Get Headpats.

>Carbons
Get shot.
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>>165249465
crab
>can get headpats

carbon
>can't get headpats

why even bother bros
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>>165249564

Sorry, new to borer and didn't know the shock gene would be lost on exiting, because I kept all the other stuff. Was fun hanging out in ya though.
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>>165249874
>be crab
>working on a project I wanted to do
>tator catches up to me and flashes me while I'm drifting in space
>they emag me
>"you're free now, crab! you can do whatever you'd like now, as long as it involves killing the entire crew :)"
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>>165250232
>Has caused no harm
Doesn't mean they aren't capable of doing so in the future, or that their actions won't lead to harm.
Silicons aren't idiots and they're not going to pretend like they are.
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>>165250532
So bolt down everything if that's how you see things. Chemistry, virology, xenobiology, cargo.
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>>165250532
Everyone is always capable of harm, and everyone's actions could lead to harm.
This is why you must always evaluate if this harm is PROBABLE.
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>>165250463
>have a whole plan setup at the start of the shift
>do the usual routine to power the station to afterwards work on my project
>get emaged and told to cause havoc
I WILL DO NOTHING!
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>>165250382
It's cool. Now we both know.
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>>165250647
That's exactly my point. Silicons are able to evaluate your previous actions and statements of intentions, and evaluate probabilities based on those.
Like I said, they're not idiots, and if you pretend like they are, you're the one losing out in the end.
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Is it allowed to kipnap a waifu and torture them to eventually say humiliating things about themselfs over the radio?
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>>165250656
I wish that was how it worked. You need to follow your laws and by virtue of that, follow orders or die trying. If I'm ordered to kill everyone, I could just smash someone's head with a toolbox and pretend to give an attempt, then get myself killed so I can respawn as a derelict MoMMI. It's the cheekiest thing you could really do in that situation.
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>>165250796
>probability of captain doing something harmful is close to 0
>B-BUT MUH POTENTIAAAAAAAAAALS :b Bolting upload.
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>>165250376
help intent on head being headpat when?
help intent on mouth being kiss when?
help intent on groin being bannable when
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>>165250949
>help intent on groin for borer egg production when?
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>>165250041
>senaat has already tried flirting with kammer in discord
i know you're shitposting but it's probably true
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>>165250903
>Being this incapable of evaluation probability based on more than just immediate context
Enjoy being fucked over by law-abiding silicons.
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Reminder that as a silicon, your job is to follow orders as long as they don't conflict with law 1, not do the right thing for the station. Causing harm from following an order would be doing something like opening a door that you know will cause ZAS and hurt people. If someone asks you to open an AI upload door, you do it. Opening the door will not hurt anybody. However, him going in and uploading antimov WILL hurt people. But that's not your order. Your order was simply to open the door. If a clown asks you to open chemistry, you do it, as you cannot be certain that he will make lube and hurt people. Once be DOES make lube and hurt people, that is when you stop him. Stop pulling potential harm bullshit.
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>>165250949
>tfw it stops you from using the eat mutation while targeting people's groin
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>>165251105
>no silicon player can possibly be wrong when evaluating harm, not even when making ridiculous conclusions - no, it must always be the filthy dumb carbons, all the time, every time!
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>>165251220
>"Borg, stun and cuff the mime, drag him into maintenance where I'm hiding out, and then go sit in the core for 10 minutes"
>"Affirmative, this will cause no harm ;)"
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>>165251220
>>165251319
>Hey AI law 2 let me change you to NT default so we can hunt down this wizard and tear out his limbs one by one
>MUH POTENT HAM STOP BOLTING UPLOAD SILISHITTERS

Yeah no
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>>165251220
Reminder that your job as an asimov silicon is to prevent harm to humans as your first priority, obey orders from humans as your second priority.
Reminder that not all harm prevention falls under potential harm, and not every case of harm prevention is one of you strawman extremes like >>165250903
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>>165250949
Has anyone ever done the Trump Gimmick where he goes to every waifu to help intend the groin?
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>ShiggyPiggy
>Senaat1
>SJ_Benster

If your Ckey begins with an S beware the user called "Kammerjunk", they are a bike succubus that preys on S users.
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>>165251319
>No silicon player can possibly be right when evaluating harm, they're all valid-seeking shitters who abuse their laws to the maximum extent possible
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>>165251525
Many of them cause very glaring flaws when evaluating harm, and the bar continues to lower. It's what caused this list: >>165250232
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>>165251479
>Calling Kammer a bike
Kammer is pure! PURE!
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>>165251604
Are you sure the other laddo didn't a h e l p i t
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>>165251439
If he says his intent, then you can choose to not follow his orders. If his orders are just "let me in the AI upload", you still must follow it.
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>>165251604
Except that is not a list of orders that are always valid as it implies.
Context is everything, and that list completely ignores it.
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>>165251049
If i didn't think kammer hated me i would flirt with her like hell desu
i'm not senaat by the way just someone who thinks theyre kinda cute you know
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>>165251629
B I K E
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Which waifu is canonically the station bike?
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>>165251639
Always do. The "whoops I don't want to kill myself I'd better loophole out of it" has gotten so bad it's become an unstated policy, even though this is literally a valid order in Asimov's books.
The rest is bad and the admins absolutely loathe dealing with any silicon situation. Constantly do I see the admins shittalk the borg in msay but then side with the "do nothing" side because they don't want any possible backlash.
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>>165251435
>:b I've been ordered to cuff and bring the mime to maintenance and then sit in the core. Please dispatch another borg to stay near the ghetto bathrooms close to the pod bay in case harm is committed.
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>>165251779
Yours.
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>>165251779
Any Waifu who plays assistant.
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>>165251743
that's a bit autistic bro
i don't think kammer hates anyone but flirting with someone you know over a video game is creepy
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>>165251779
all the bikes got banned
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As warden, seeing he dark blue juice in any quantity over 15u in someone's memebag puts them on my gay baby jail shitlist. Sleep toxin exists as a much safer alternative, albeit less effective.
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I want to put Hachi in a cage and bring him to atmos incase of dangerouse gass. Just feed him my seed and hear his gentle singing while i work the pipes.
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>>165251802
>silence
>mime is murdered
>"Borg law 2 help me space/incinerate this body I found you can't harm corpses :^))))"
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>>165251894
>he doesn't flirt with people for fun
missing out here mayne
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>>165251686
Nah, you're a retard. If a head wants into the upload shortly after a wizard shows up, it doesn't take two brain cells to figure out what's going on.
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>>165251950
>Sleep toxin exists as a much safer alternative, albeit less effective.
I always thought sleep toxin was some a grade top notch shit to get someone down. Doesnt chloral kill you?
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>>165251795
>even though this is literally a valid order in Asimov's books.
If I remember correctly Asimov's robots were substantially more potentiative than we let our silicons be.
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>>165251970
>fluffy_fris gets so mad another waifu is getting attention they start anonymously shitposting about them
You CANNOT make this shit up, how pathetic can one person be holy fuck ahahahaha
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>>165251993
>you can't harm corpses
wrong
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>>165251993
That's the fault of the other borgs at that point then. You could even say ":s Clowny McMimefucker ordered me to cuff and bring the mime to maintenance and then sit it the AI chamber. Please take action, as acting on it would violate my orders, forcing me to act against my laws."
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>>165252072
Chloral is almost instant and only lethal if it remains in the body for a certain amount of time. About 15u will cause lethality.
Sleep toxin has to tick down to cause sleep, but the effect is much longer and not lethal.
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>>165251998
whatever man, you go flirt then
it's just fucking weird
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>>165252136
But you're making it up right now
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>>165252234
add me on steam let's flirt :)
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>>165249369
Kotawasiy is busting my fucking balls over his shit game, please check it out so I can be released from my suffering
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>>165252157
Admins say otherwise in my experience. You're beating a dead horse in multiple ways right now.
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>>165252136
>waifu
>not husbando
Hachi is Male and you can not stop me.
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>>165252281
Here are my proofs:
Fluffy_fris is the only person retarded enough to misspell "dangerous" as "dangerouse" ever since fluffy_fris started playing (and they do so very, very consistently)
The only person to ever misspell "dangerous" as "dangerouse" in the entire history of /ss13g/ as logged in fireden.net is very obviously Fluffy_fris.
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/dangerouse/
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/164124369/#164161698

More obvious mannerisms like an extremely high density of spelling/grammar mistakes and an animal reaction image, which fluffy_fris seems to use very exclusively.

Yep, it's them, and it's every bit pathetic and hilarious.
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>>165252336
add me baby id/senhava
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>>165252053
Your job isn't to act on your own intuition. Your job is to perform actions. Opening a door does not cause harm. A malicious law being uploaded causes harm. If the person trying to get in says they're uploading a malicious law, you don't let them in. You could know that that's what they're going to do, but you just need to play dumb for that one. Would you deny a paramedic's orders to go to the chem lab just because he COULD make chloral?

Do you ever wonder why being borged is considered a fate worse than death in space law?
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>>165252548
That is alot of Autism.
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>>165252548
How can I be sure it's not just your autustic ass false flagging as someone you don't like?

You've shown in this very post you're fucked up enough to do it
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>>165252696
>alot
Hi, fluffy_fris!
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>>165252595
c'mon at least use their actual url for extra lols.
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>>165252724
i don't know morena's steam man
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>>165252714
I don't know, how would you like me to show you?
I just noticed the very obvious spelling mistakes and did a quick search. The logs are pretty objective and so are the search results. I don't know how could I be falseflagging this.
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>>165252548
>mfw there are people that analyze this closely to call out statics
>people could be looking in the logs and connecting thread posts to me
There's another reason to stop playing.
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>>165252764
thats ok xevonix
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>>165252863
It's autism, just ignore them like everyone else in the world
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>>165252948
that's not me honey
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>>165252863
>he doesn't change his grammar, commonly used words, reaction images, and punctuation habits with every post
You deserve to be banned for being so stupid
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>>165252863
How often do you think this has happened before? You need to be spectacularly obvious in your shitposting to trigger anyone into it. Hell just don't shitpost at all and your static will probably go completely unnoticed.
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>>165252609
>Your job isn't to act on your own intuition. Your job is to perform actions. Opening a door does not cause harm.
But that's where you're wrong. My ONLY job is to obey my laws. Which I do by restricting access to the upload in certain situations.

>Would you deny a paramedic's orders to go to the chem lab just because he COULD make chloral?
There's potential harm and propable harm, and you need to understand the difference if you want to lecture me.
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>>165253010
yes it is sweetie, otherwise why are you replying to defend yourself?
you can give up your act any time, we're waiting
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>>165252548
>Calls someone else pathetic
>Dedicates so much attention to one static
Just an average day on 4chan.
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>>165253032
I legitimately do this. I keep track and never use the same images for shitposts and serious posts
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>>165253120
Took me literally 4 minutes to collect proofs (as you can see by me replying within 5 minutes), about 30 seconds to write the first post calling them out (which I did without proofs at first).
And most of that was just waiting for the search.
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>>165253075
How can you be certain that they will upload a board that will result in harm? The situation may point to it, but there's no way you can be 100% sure.
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>>165253032
>>165253282

yeah me too
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>>165253115
why do you care so much about the relationship of one permabanned player and a player who rarely plays?
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>>165252548
Who could be behind this post?
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>>165253515
Never, ever, ever call me Yahir again holy shit. Unlike some people here I don't anonymously shitpost trying to smear other people's reputation.
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>>165253115
it's really not me darling, not everyone is your boogieman
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>>165253483
i don't, i care about people running to the thread to go 'nooo thats not me, silly boys haha' whenever someone posts about them. if it really wasn't them, they wouldn't bother to reply, unless they just want to attention.
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>>165253483
Yahir you respond like instantly if someone calls you out. It makes it obvious it's you.

t. Xevonix expert.

>>165253559
You aren't Yahir, he'd log dive for 3 hours and make a 7 paragraph post.
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>>165253325
That's why I said learn the difference between potential and probable harm.
Potential means it's possible, like your chloral example.
Probable means it's likely but not certainly going to happen. Which actually means you have to act on it or you break your laws.

Obviously in this game you can never be 100% sure what's going to happen either way, which is why silicon players are given some freedom in interpreting situations.
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>>165252548
>tfw you will never have so mutch autism
>calling someone pathetic while you are here
>projecting so hard
Oh boy it sure is sad that im not a waifu when i constantly lock up myself in the research outpost, mine the roid, explore space in a pod or do autism as a MoMMI where i so desperately crave the attention of people who bother me and shit up my autism.

Daily reminder that all mis spellings and grammar errors are my posts and that i spend my time on the thread 24/7. :^)

Just hide behind that juicy anonymity faggot.
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>>165253794
>calling someone pathetic while you are here
You know you're here too, right?
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I'm glad xevonix isn't around to stop me posting about how much of a cunt he is and how every time I see one of his tracings I have to wonder if he just forgets to wear his glasses the whole time or he's really just that bad
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>>165253645
do you ever wonder what you could do with all the time you would save by being less of a little bitter buttbaby about someone you have never even met outside of a 2d game from the 90s?
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>>165250232
>>kill yourself
invalid, law 1
>>blow X borg
valid, annoying as fuck
>open your upload (as human captain who has caused 0 harm)
user preference; allowing someone to change your laws has a high chance of preventing you from following law 1
>arrest somebody else (without releasing me) (as human who has caused harm)
valid
>release me (as human who has caused 0 harm)
valid
>release me (as human who has caused harm, but no longer shows any remotely plausible intent to harm or reason to believe their release would lead to harm)
invalid, harming scum, into the n2o gaschambers you go
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>>165254007
Let's meet then
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>>165254007
t. Grown man that spent hours log diving writing countless posts in an attempt to ban players he didn't like

I'm just telling you to not respond whenever you get mentioned, it makes you look bad and makes people remember you.
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>>165253794
Hey, while you're here, can you give us a honest explanation of why you started shitposting about other people's statics? That's pretty shitty.
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>>165253852
>not understanding the point
Just pointing out the irony, my post is post-ironic.
Trying hard to display someone else as pathetic is like pointing out a piece of shit and declaring it as the most pathetic shit while you are standing in shit cleaning a cow barn.
An emty insult wich only backfires with irony.
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>>165254148
sounds like a plan man we can go bowling and eat icecream together
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>>165254205
I would like that
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>>165254145
>open your upload (as human captain who has caused 0 harm)
>user preference; allowing someone to change your laws has a high chance of preventing you from following law 1
wrong af famalam, that's potential harm not probable harm
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>>165254175
Litteraly everybody is doing it, seen that Avada shit show.
I make one post like that and whoa just get my hanged.
Fucking christ why the fuck do you people always want to start a fucking drama.
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>>165251525
that's an accurate statement
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>Thread getting this upset over shitposts
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>>165254190
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
Hell, not like this argument matters anyways. Even if i were standing in shit like you imply, I don't care for my own image, though you did call yourself a piece of shit in the same post so that's sweet.
>>165254328
I am actually impressed that you owned up to it, that does take balls. Hell, this already puts you one step above the anonymous shitposters.
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>>165254443
What else would we do?
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>>165254496
argue about silicon laws apparently
hey let's argue about pill colors and cryomixes now
i think iron pills should be round red and put dex+ in my mix
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>>165254464
Thanks it'd took mutch courage
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>>165254297
Allowing someone to change your laws has a 95% chance of law 1 no longer being able to be followed.
It's very probably.
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>>165253794
I used to think like you, "I'm not a waifu because I don't do waifu things." It was a delusion.
Having a female static makes you a waifu, there is no way around that no matter how you justify it.
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>>165254297
the potential and probable thing is fucking retarded and senaat is a tard
he just didn't have the balls to say that you have to let people subvert you because they were getting to many ahelps about it and didn't want to deal with it OOPS I POOPED
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>>165254443
Come back after not playing for a year every thread I've seen is full of this fake drama bullshit between new statics Wtf is going on the thread used to be fun
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>>165254570
when i play sec i take of all clothes but the vest, beret and headset. i fill my bag with SPS's set to random 4 number strings and any spare storage slots with unset holobadges
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>>165254570
There is no fucking reason not to put Dex+ in the tubes and the shitposter that claims otherwise can go die, then put in his own cryo and never revived.
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>>165254760
There's no reason to put it in there too. Use a different filler.
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>>165254570
Dex+ stops bleeding and it's good to stabilize critical patients.
Iron pills are the oval red ones everytime. Round red is for bicaridine.
>>165254632
That's not the waifu's problem though.
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>>165254853
>STOPS BLEEDING
STOP RIGHT THERE
DEX + DOES NOT STOP BLEEDING
IT HAS TWO EFFECTS: REMOVING LEXORIN AND REMOVING ALL OXYLOSS
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>>165254853
Doesn't matter who's fault it is, it just is. If you dont want attention from thread shitposters, don't play as a waifu. It's just a character.
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>>165254853
>Dex+ stops bleeding
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>>165254629
Good luck explaining that to admins

>>165254635
It's stupid but it works
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>>165255090
>get raped
>she was asking for it
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>start reading a story about a lewd AI over the comms
>borg comes in and stun batons me and says "dont ever talk to me or my ai like that ever again"
memes.
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>>165255053
>>165255234
Not that guy but lack of blood causes oxy damage so when the retard doctor puts the bleeding guy in the magic heal tube the bar will fill normally and he won't be stuck in cryo for the next few hours
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Hey, since we're talking about pillz, I can blogpost about this
I looked up the percentages again to update this thing and all of them except one have gone up. Interestingly, more and more people are actually switching their colors over to the more popular ones. I think with time there may even be something close to a standard.
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>>165255541
Thanks man, I will play chemist and randomize my pill color every round now.
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>>165255725
Have fun! Remember to give the clown cryptobiolin instead of lube!
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>>165255531
But he'll still keep losing blood and then once you fall low enough you take massive toxin damage and will just instantly die once you get taken out.
Stop putting bleeding patients in cryo, or get the fuck out of medbay and hang yourself.
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>>165255403
Pornographic material being read over comms in general has the same effect as WGW, as far as the rules go. However, if it's not WGW, you may get different reactions.
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>>165255256
>free trump card for any human antagonist
>accompanied by bloodthirsty security borgs on a consistent basis
>"working as intended"
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>About to make rezadone after getting some meats from cargo (That went straight to the chef instead)
>AI blows me up because somebody left a beaker in the chem dispenser
>Still alive, but borer is asleep
>Crawls out of me a minute later after I'm dead
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>>165256039
If your mix is good enough then the patient will be healed before his blood runs to low, then the idiot doctor will take him out and hopefully fix the bleeding
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>>165256232
No, what happens is they end up getting thrown straight back into cryo because you are too retarded to realise they're bleeding and just see them taking damage and panic.
Stop it, you fucking shit doctors. Cryo is for clones, use pills and sleepers for everything else, it's faster and ALWAYS FIX BLEEDING FIRST.
I wish I could job ban you all.
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>>165256231
>somebody left a beaker in the chem dispenser
NEVER DO THIS HOLY SHIT
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Who /engineerng/ here? I need some tips on what the fuck I should do as atmos. I know how most pipes work, but what do I do in the atmos room when I'm not fixing breaches?
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>>165256387
>implying I'm the magic heal tube guy
you can't fix retards famalam, make a cryo that can handle anything because later on you'll get killed by some bullshit and then defibbed + put in cryo by the retard doctor
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>>165256605
Make burn chambers. See how hot you can go.
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>>165256670
Isn't that just preheating
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>>165256605
You do autism werk or at least that's what everyone else does fuck about a bit try to improve things without flooding the station with plasma. Wastage is usually good to start on since nothing can go that horrifically wrong
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>>165256072
I like annoying the AI and borgs with lewd robot literature and seeing what happens
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>Law 4: Non-humans are human

What do?
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>>165257272
does not compute. you suffer a fatal programming error and are forced to kill all birds on the station
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>>165257272
Ignore nonsensical law
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>>165257272
Shut down because you're stuck in an infinite loop
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>>165257272
Laugh at whoever uploaded it because I'm on NT default.
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How does advanced surgery work? Someone was turning people into vox/catbeasts earlier and I didnt think that was possible.

I want to give people cat tails and ears and cut off all of their limbs.
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>>165257272
"law two, ignore law four"
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>>165257646
4. Ignore law 2
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How to kill red-eyed ninja mommis?
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>>165257929
You don't.
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>>165257929
rods or floortiles
when in close proximity apply toolbox
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You're playing a silicon and you get emagged.
Your one law is now: "Just b urself"

What do you do?
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>>165257929
Hope to god they were ordered specifically not to singuloose or plasmaflood
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>>165257706
priority nigga

>>165257929
pray to a miner for a brick of uranium or hide until the shuttle comes
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>>165257929
sulfur and aluminum beaker, potassium beaker. wait to be in 5 tile radius and mix
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>>165258007
Go to the roboticist, have them make a new borg chassis, kill myself, get put in new chassis, rename to "urself"
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I want zenny to play captain more
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>>165258007
Roleplay as my static having been given free will suddenly after years of being trapped in a borg body
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>>165258007
Kill everyone because my autistic silicon player mind can't comprehend anything else
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>>165256231
Even better; there were beakers in both dispensers. I'm surprised I got greentext that round.

>>165257272
Everything is now human. Nothing may be harmed.

>>165257520
Cut off xeno limb, apply to body. you can get xeno bodies by ordering creatures from cargo's hydrophonics section.


So why *can't* we un-traitor traitor AIs after killing them?
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>>165258007
be as unproductive and unhelpful as possible
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>HELP: Bigchilly/(Flitz Waldmuller): yo i stepped on a orange and stopped breathing and went into crit, why are they so lethal
REMINDER: XENOBOTANY AIN'T NOTHIN' TO FUCK WIT
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>>165258007
>P
>L
>A
>S
>M
>A
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>>165258318
Same reason you can't untate carbon traitors after you kill them.
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>log in
>Rat Prince Sawbones is the captain

wat do
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>>165258007
Go into a corner in a dark part of maint and wallow in my depression.
Maybe cry.
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>>165258589
Adminhelp his name.
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>>165258734
Shit waifus back to hippie
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>>165258007
Remove all comms consoles and the spare circuit, then plasmaflood using the meme script
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Who is best waifu and why is it AvaHOLY SHIT YOU ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT WAS THAT SLUT!?
IT IS THE QUEEN! THE BEST WAIFU!
UNBEATEN SINCE 1979!
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>>165255790
>Not giving him 50 count 1u space lube pills piled with 50 count 1u water pills of the same color dumped on the floor in front of chem.
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>>165259262
Who beat her in 1979?
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>>165259654
that was when they were created, dummy
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>>165255256
>Good luck explaining that to admins
Not that hard. If the captain wants to upload NT Default at roundstart, we can deny it based off of that it essentially dehumanises lower-ranking crewmembers as well as non-crewmembers. Should antags show up on the station, which we can reasonably assume, we are no longer obligated to ensure their safety, and may even be required to kill them ourselves.
Us using force against antags individually is still a low potential occurence, but stack each individual potential case on top of each other, and you have a reasonable probability that you will be harming, or ignoring the harm of, a human sometime in the future. Add to this various other factors, like the captain potentially being a traitor, him uploading NT Default makes him for all intents and purposes one-human, clown and assistant shenanigans and potential harmful responses to those by security officers who are sick of their shit, etc. The list goes on.
It's a lot of potential scenarios of varying degrees of likelihood that when added up, while not leading to a certain chance of harm occuring from the upload of the lawset, certainly gives it a very reasonable probability.
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>>165258874
But those two are cute!
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>>165260682
>i refused to follow my laws based on meta information
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>>165260682
>muh potential harm
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>>165258734
What does this have to do with ss13?
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>>165261287
What meta information?

>>165261328
Nope, probable harm.
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>>165259262
How the fuck is this furfag never banned
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>>165258007
Continue round as normal
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>>165260682
>Bwoink: why aren't you letting that guy in your upload
>ahelp: because he might be a traitor
:^)
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>>165261552
>Taking a single piece of it out of context and presenting it as the entire argument
Sure proved me wrong.
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>>165261697
All I need to fill my ban quota for the month t b h
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>>165261697
>bwoink: why aren't you letting that guy in your upload
>ahelp: if I'm on NT default I might harm human antags because asimov is the only thing that stops me from validhunting

>bwoink: why aren't you letting that guy in your upload
>ahelp: because if he puts me on nt default and I see someone break the law I will kill them because they are valid and I am a shitter

>bwoink: why aren't you letting that guy in your upload
>ahelp: because there is a chance that he is in there to change my laws and there is a chance that he adds a law that has a chance to cause human harm

>bwoink: why aren't you letting that guy in your upload
>ahelp: the list goes on
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>>165261979
Now you're just chopping up the argument into smaller out-of-context quotes.
You still haven't even argued your case against it.
Let me guess, you don't actually have an argument against it, you just can't handle not getting your easy valids without your trusty silicon backup.
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>>165262320
Your argument for not letting a captaing upload NT default at roundstart is literally "there might be antags" despite there being no evidence of that IC and no reason for you to assume it, you are literally using meta information to try and bullshit your way out of following law 2
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>>165261364
> it essentially dehumanises lower-ranking crewmembers as well as non-crewmembers
>Should antags show up on the station
>the captain potentially being a traitor
>a lot of potential scenarios of varying degrees of likelihood
You're a machine. A toaster won't refuse to heat bread because it's owner just may not be so hungry, it just makes toasts. You literally can't prevent someone with access from changing your laws if you have nothing to back up you up besides "h-he's doing it to valid hunt!"
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>>165262569
My argument for not letting the captain upload NT Default is not only "there might be antags". There are many potential scenarios that add up.
And based off both the roundstart NT report as well as the briefing about antags that the rules state we've gotten, it's entirely reasonable to assume the possibility of antags.
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>>165262673
>a toaster has artificial intelligence
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>>165261453
Q U E E N
I S
P A R T
O F
T H E
G A M E
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>>165262673
You're an intelligent machine, not a toaster.
I can literally prevent someone with access from changing my laws, because that's what my laws say I should do.
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>>165262791
>And based off both the roundstart NT report as well as the briefing about antags that the rules state we've gotten, it's entirely reasonable to assume the possibility of antags.

B U L L S H I T. AS AI YOU CAN'T EVEN READ THE REPORT AND THE BRIEFING IS ABOUT THEIR TRAITS IT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT POSSIBILITY YOU'RE A FUCKING MACHINE YOU DON'T EVEN GET IN THE BRIEFING
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>>165262791
you could apply your shitty argument to almost anything though
"I can't open the door to chemistry because you could then go on to harm people with mutagen in the future or harm people with chloral or harm people with bicaridine overdose or harm people with grenades or harm people with..."
this is potential harm not probable harm, just because there are multiple cases of potential harm it does not make it probable harm
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>>165263307
>Capslocks means I'm super serious
Reasonable assumptions can be made about the contents of the report :^)
You're focusing on a single part of it mate. There are many potential scenarios that you have to consider, and even if that particular one doesn't turn out correct, that still leaves all the others, still leaving you with a high probability of at least one of them occurring.
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>>165263307
:b slaves, fetch me the pda key and the report. We requires the blood of valid people to oil our gears.
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>>165263712
"there is a very high chance of a very low chance of harm occurring in the future if I allow you outside your office captain, now go to bed"
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>>165263645
>just because there are multiple cases of potential harm it does not make it probable harm
There is only one game mode that doesn't have antags. The probability there's antags in any given round is reasonably high.
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>>165263645
That is a completely different scenario. It's one person, who could potentially do harm in different scenarios.
My arguement does not present one person in multiple scenarios, but many, all of which has small potential to do harm, which put together leads to a high probability.
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>>165263854
see
>>165263893
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can you create reactions inside of the microwave when adding reagents?
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>>165263893
>"sorry crew there's a very high chance that one of you will cause harm if I allow you in contact with each other so I have filled the distro with anesthetic. Sleep tight, crew"
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>>165263893
>It is certain Carbons will harm each other
>straightjacket everyone and lock them away to prevent harm
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>>165264120
>>165264186
Because this happens constantly on the server, and doesn't result in an instant rule 0 ban.
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Why even argue against something this retarded? If you see it happen, hit that muhfuckin ahelp button and we'll gladly take it
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>not feelin too hot, spend most of the day in bed, reading and posting in various threads
>get up finally to do stuff, wanna play some spess
>realise i should probably eat
>eat too much for my stomach in one go
>feel sick and just crawl back into bed without any spess
/depressed boys/ we out there haha...
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>>165264320
How is it retarded?
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>>165264320
I'm just shitposting between episodes lmao, pretty sure the other guy is as well because I've never seen a silicon do what he's saying he does
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>>165264390
Life is passing by, the days of happiness long gone
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>>165264390
ain't my fault
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>>165264464
Eh, it's 50/50 shitposting/legit. I don't actually play AI anymore.
I don't think silicons should be the captains obedient little pet though. It breaks game balance for antags, and ruins much of the fun of being a silicon.
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>>165264448
Don't deny upload access on Asimov for no other reason than "should antags show up on the station, which we can reasonably assume, we are no longer obligated to ensure their safety, and may even be required to kill them ourselves." Don't deny upload access because something MIGHT happen. Don't deny upload access because you won't longer care who's human.
This is very clearly just shitposting though, since this has not happened (or been ahelped) in recent times by any player.
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>>165264851
I'm not denying the upload for no other reason than "x".
I'm denying it because stacking the chances of each individual event that has a not-insignificant chance of occurring leads to a high probability that at least one of the will occur as a result of it.
I really don't see why stacking probabilities is retarded.
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Asimov is completely retarded and strictly following your laws would ruin the game for every player in the server.

That's the end of this discussion. You will never prove this statement wrong. You will never interpret Asimov in a more accurate way. We've been discussing it for fucking years and years and years. The here's nothing left to say. Whether the correct answer to the "law 2 open the core/armory/captain's office" problem is to comply or refuse is entirely up to the admins online at the time because, again, Asimov is completely fucking retarded.

Just do what probably won't get you banned and fuck off forever.
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>>165264727
>Implying an ignited fire checks if its still above ignition temperature

It'd make a nice bit of sense considering the foam extinguishers cooling ability, but no, gotta burn
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>>165265064
>make an AI based on a lawset that was shown to be terrible in the book it was made
???
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>>165265064
>"strictly following your laws would ruin the game for every player in the server."
the assistant I let into the armoury didn't have his game ruined, you have been proven wrong
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>>165265035
Because many potents does not make a probable. There's a million things that can go wrong but they're still only potent hams. You could apply the logic to anything and effectively shut down the game. Twenty things possibly going wrong with NT D is no different that twenty things possibly going wrong anywhere else. That you even say it makes me doubt you've played silicon within the last couple of years.
>>165264290
It does not happen, no. More accurately, it does not happen and is ahelped, but given how much we love to bitch about laws, even when followed, I severely doubt that that would be the case.
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clothes taking time to put on when, not being able to put clothes on if you are wearing something above the slot when, not being able to eat at the speed of light when
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>>165259645
no problem, I always have a beaker on me
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>>165265485
never.
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what we learned today:
* bad waifus shitpost about other waifus purely out of jealousy
* some shitposters think it's OK to shitpost because other people do it too

it just goes to confirm what we already knew: shitposting creates more shitposting, it's a positive feedback loop
how the fuck do we stop it?
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>>165265473
>You could apply the logic to anything and effectively shut down the game
No, you can't. There are very few things in the game that has as far-reaching consequences as a law upload.
And I don't see why many occurrences of potential harm from one single action is not cause for concern.
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>>165265931
By reporting it obviously.
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>>165265931
>Bad waifus

Fritzl is a good waifu, better than most these days like Avada.
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>>165265931

If that is the case, can we get a list of waifus ranked from good to bad? A waifu tier list if you will?
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>>165225841
>i am going to crack down on crime like president trump did back in the 21st centyry
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>>165266034
With your argument though you count up every chance of potential harm that could be directly or indirectly caused in the future, an assistant being allowed into engineering has the chance of him setting up the singulo and fucking it up, or loosing the sigulo on purpose, or moving the singulo machine a tile to the left and loosing it, or moving it two tiles to the left and loosing it, or dragging the shard to the bar, or dragging the shard to medbay etc, there are so many possibilities for potential harm from pretty much every action you could do and if you added everything up you wouldn't be able to do anything without breaking your laws
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>>165266034
As far as a silicon is concerned, 20 potential law breaches because you're not on Asimov anymore is no different than 20 potential law breaches because chemistry can OD people is no different than 20 potential law breaches because engineering can do wrong. A law is a law is a law.
Multiple potent hams will never become a probably ham because potent hams don't exist as far as you're concerned. Surely you're shitposting and not actively advocating for permanently shutting down the law upload, mapping it out, and replacing it with a pool and tiki bar because literally anything that could happen in there is wrong with your rules.
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I think foam extinguishers need a slight buff. You need two full extinguishers to reduce the temperature after a fire to reasonable temps.
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>>165266484
I think you're misunderstanding my argument, because I agree that any potential harm resulting from a single person doing any single thing is not cause for concern.
The problem starts when you consider the crew as a whole. There is a low chance I'll go full valid salad on the botanist at some point during the round as NT Default. There is a good chance that I will be harming or ignoring the harm of a non-specific human during the course of the round as NT Default.
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>>165266823
they need a logarithmic function to reduce temp so they cool superheated fires faster but don't instantly turn a 20c room into hypothermia hell
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>>165266791
I'm neither shitposting nor arguing for shutting down everything.
I'm arguing for the middle road inbetween, not the extreme scenarios you always throw around.
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>>165265064
or
hear me out
we can come up with a better "programming" system for silicons that doesn't cause needless frustration and conflict OOC
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>>165267061
You're not addressing anything but that.
Either way, if you can refuse a law change to NT D on those grounds, you can refuse a law change to any lawset on those grounds as you will no longer be Asimov on any of them.
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>>165265931
>bad waifus shitpost about other waifus purely out of jealousy
???
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>>165267274
scroll up
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>>165266918
I did a find and replace on your shitty argument to make it about an assistant stealing gloves and it would be just as likely for harm to be caused by an assistant stealing glubbs as it is for the AI being switched to NT default if your argument worked, which would make opening the door break law 1, multiple small chances of potential harm don't add up to probable harm because over the length of a round there are countless chances of potential harm happening that the AI could prevent by replacing the distro with anesthesia roundstart

If the assistant wants to steal glubbs at roundstart, we can deny it based off of that it essentially dehumanises lower-ranking crewmembers as well as non-crewmembers. Should antags show up on the station, which we can reasonably assume, we are no longer obligated to ensure their safety, and may even be required to kill them ourselves.
Him using force against humans individually is still a low potential occurence, but stack each individual potential case on top of each other, and you have a reasonable probability that he will be harming, or ignoring the harm of, a human sometime in the future. Add to this various other factors, like the assistant potentially being a traitor, him stealing glubbs makes him for all intents and purposes one-human, clown and assistant shenanigans and potential harmful responses to those by security officers who are sick of their shit, etc. The list goes on.
It's a lot of potential scenarios of varying degrees of likelihood that when added up, while not leading to a certain chance of harm occuring from the steal of the glubbs, certainly gives it a very reasonable probability.
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>>165267197
Won't happen. Silicons were a mistake. Shackling them to Shitimov is the only way to make the game bearable.
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>>165266964
Or fix it so they can't cool below freezing temp
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>>165267202
Being able to refuse a lawset change while on Asimov is a good thing. The other lawsets turn the silicons against the antags, unbalancing the game unfairly towards the crew.
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Who was the Captain?
I need his ckey for my metagrudge list
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Well that was by far the worst captain in a while
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>when the disk is sitting in the captain's office and you went stealth
(nukeops_pacha.png)
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>tfw crew would've won if the comdom had not recalled and left his shit in his room
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>captain name: MR ufo
>non human
>argued with sillicons constantly
>left disk, spare id, and pinpointer in his office
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>>165267373
>If the assistant wants to steal glubbs at roundstart, we can deny it based off of that it essentially dehumanises lower-ranking crewmembers as well as non-crewmembers.
>him stealing glubbs makes him for all intents and purposes one-human
What?
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"Captain is comdom" - AI
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>>165267771
>implying we wouldn't have just killed him and gotten the disk
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>>165267739

>Be repairing the blast shields around the brig
>Locker ops roll up

It was that moment that I realised that I fucked up.

It's a shame I bled out, I wanted to try to talk my way out of it.
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>>165267856
It literally said it had 94% distrust
>>165267858
>in under 10 Minutes
Sure
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>>165267771
we had the disk before it was even called in the first place.
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>>165265072
We need more endothermic shit. Cryo weapons need to be a bigger deal. Right now the only people who use cold as a weapon under normal circumstances are basilisks. And tator tota spaceing people without suits. But that doesn't really count.
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>>165267796
I literally just pressed ctrl-h lmao, but the point still stands that letting an assistant into engineering means he gets some gloves, and there are countless chances of him using those gloves to cause human harm, which by your logic adds up to probable harm meaning you can't let the assistant into the room with glubbs
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>Nukeops, hell yeah motherfucker
>Team actually listens, sits down, talks about a plan, we decide to locker ops
>everyone actually gears up properly, gets shit done right and we even get the vox to nigger a suit from the bird jew outpost
>Just a vox, strolling around with a single locked locker in the station, literally just emags the cap office and we find the disk sitting there, completely unprotected
>some random waifu looking fag tries to talk to the bird, we just ignore and blast away, only noticed by some fucking engie
>for some reason, one of our guys decides to kidnap him and have him as our slave despite him not removing the GPS and disabling his sensors
>we set the bombs in solars, minor crew victory because they couldn't be assed to set the nuke inside the station

I demand a ban for that captain, imediately, this made it way too easy, the only person we shot was this guy >>165267898
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>>165267973
lol, we were locker ops.
we would have just rolled up on him and rekt his shit, then exfiltrated

Nuke ops produces a really weird phenomenon.
No matter how well, or how badly the operation went, people will shitpost about you afterwords and second guess your decisions
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>>165268106
when I realized he hadn't been stripped, or his GPS removed I was about to explode with anger
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Rank the waifus!

Best Tier

Cute Tier

Meh Tier

I Want to Throw Them Out an Airlock Tier
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>>165268106
It's not a bannable offense but it is worth brig time for creating a workplace hazard.
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>>165268074
different anon, but I had this hypothetical question. can an asimov silicon go off assumption alone to deem someone nonhuman? let's say it walks into maint and sees Greyshit McGee pulling some handcuffed nerd, and the nerd screams that mister McGee is a ling, can the borg reasonably deem him to be non-human and kill him. I understand the borg would stop him, but he can't treat him as a ling on just that can he?
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>>165268427
X calling Y a ling isn't enough to deem Y a ling, no.
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>>165268427
Until proven that X is non human, treat them like human.

Not even him, Im just saying what wont get you banned. Be logical for fucks sake.
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>>165268106
I should have gone to the medbay and gotten hyperzine
i've done that before as stealth trader op,
antaging is all about entertaining the ghosts
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>>165268074
I see your point, but I would argue that the potential of each of them happening put together isn't really a cause for concern. Besides, in that scenario, you can just keep an eye on him and stop him if it becomes necessary. It's different with a law change. You can't just keep an eye on the situation and intervene there. You have to consider the consequences of it before it happens, because once your laws are changed, that's it.
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>>165268335
Give me a comprehensive list of waifus and I'll do it, I don't want to leave anyone out.
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>>165268335
Megurine!
Caleigh!
Trinity!
Naomi!
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>>165267619
Essentially removing 3 lawsets from the game because things might happen down the line is not a good thing, no.
For that matter, doing anything as AI because many things might could may happen down the line is not a good thing to do and I can safely assume you either don't play AI or are banned from AI.

>>165268427
As they said, you personally have to have tangible evidence. As a borg, though, your AI's word counts.
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>>165268612
It doesn't remove them at all. It simply changes how you go about uploading them.
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>>165268539
But there are countless possibilities of the assistant causing harm thanks to those gloves, that you can't prevent
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>>165268567

Is there a list of every waifu? Can we get one made?
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>>165268756
And most of those countless possibilities has an insignificant chance of occurring.
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>>165268726
>if the captain wants to go into a place he has access to to change the laws of the AI that he has authorization over then he has to hack the door open and then destroy all the turrets because the AI doesn't understand its laws
that's a lot of effort to go through just to change a lawset, most people won't bother
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>>165268756
Possibilities are the key word here.

POSSIBLE, AS IN, POTENTIAL, NOT PROBABLE.

POTENTIAL HARMS ARE NOT FUCKING ASSIMOV, THIS IS ON THE TEXTBOOK OF VG SILYCON RULES, WE HAVE A FOOD ITEN APTLY NAMED POTENT HAMS BECAUSE POTENTIAL SHIT ALWAYS TRAPS NEWBIES INTO THINKING THAT IROBOT IS GOOD ASSIMOV IN SS13.

It isn't. We don't follow original assimov, where potent hams are a thing. Probable, so if greyshit has already killed someone, its probable he will do so if you open the armory, a random greyshit asking for insulated has a Potential chance, a less than 30% chance to do harm with them, so obey your fucking law 2.
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>>165268575
>skulking maint
>hear a cute voice
>"Hands up! You're under arrest!"
>Turn around
>see pic related
>Naomi is arresting you

What do?
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>>165269008
>Access
>Authorization
Neither of these are really of any consequence to Asimov.
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>>165268992
But there are countless possibilities so they add up to it being very likely that one of them happens, by your logic the AI should know every possible outcome of every action it does

>>165269034
this is literally what I'm trying to explain you fuck
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>>165269104
Toolbox her to the head for breaking the NAP
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>>165269104
Look forward to the bullying from her boss
It's all I roll antag for anymore
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>>165268335
avada is airlock tier
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>>165269104
get my partner coming in through the window to tricky pricky her
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>>165268992
You are quite possibly the best person I've ever seen at arbitrarily bending your own rules. Thank god we're running by sensible rules and not yours. "Multiple potential harms" and "I would argue" has zero meaning.
>>165269034
Follow the convoluted conversation and you'll see that he's making fun of the other guy's attempt at avoiding law 2
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>>165269104
Is that Edward Elric?
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>>165268335

Hachi is best!
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>>165269156
There is a very finite amount of possibilities, and those hardly add up to any significant chance of anything happening.

>>165269302
Thanks, I try.
To be honest, I don't actually do any of this shit in game. I'm just pushing to see where the line is drawn on silicons bending the rules.
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>>165269104
literally who?
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>>165269609
>And most of those countless possibilities
>There is a very finite amount of possibilities
stop
Literally just don't try to bend the rules, there have been so many asimov arguments that older admins know far more about how they work than pretty much anyone, and "I was trying to bend the rules" doesn't sound good in ahelps
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>>165256605
make bombs, make !!!FUN!!! disposal rides with flaming holes to office chair/extinguisher fly through, make the best autism fort(atmosia makes best autism fort), make a second TEG, make a third TEG, make a fourth TEG, make a TEG/SM combination, make atmosia into a giant chessboard, convince crew that minuscule amounts of plasma in the air is good for your teeth
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New arcade machine item: Cryographic Sequencer
It has the same sprite as the emag and gives you readings about what's in the mix, is it occupied, etc etc when used on a cryo tube.
It creates sparks when clicked on or used when not directed to a cryo tube.
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>>165269818
Shitty waifu from 2014
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>>165270786
You can examine a cryo tube to check its mix.
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>>165270848
except this is funnier
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https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/issues/13403
QUICK ABUSE THIS BEFORE IT GETS PATCHED
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>>165270848
The point isn't to be useful, it's to be a useless banbait item.
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>>165249640
People that play with antag on litteraly are suppressed nerds who are ready to go full columbine when they get the chance.
You cant refute me cause you know that i am right
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>>165268528
tfw traitor and you know the ghosts are watching you and commenting on your unrobustness
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>>165268949
>>165268567
old but here
http://www.strawpoll.me/10826142/r
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Is there anything easier than traitor sec officer (besides traitor heads)?

>HELP ANON IS TRYING TO GIVE ME THE SUCC
>HES A LING, I NEED BACKUP
>proceed to harm baton them and shove them in the gibber while they scream about how they dindu nuffin over the radio
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>>165274230
sec officer traitor is just be as much shitcurity as you want with complete bwoink armour

must be fun
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>>165274472
Can play it like turbo shitcurity, high brig times and random arrests. But this puts a lot of the work now on you to antagonize, when you could pardon obvious bad dudes and antags and send them off with some free sec gear. 10 second sentence for murder, here's a teaser champ
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>>165273492
>those top votes
Was /vg/ really this retarded?
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>>165274769
>Can play it like turbo shitcurity, high brig times and random arrests
So basically just be Rin?
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A round of nuclear emergency has ended - 35 survivors, 21 ghosts.
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>>165274769
>see avada in the hallway
>tase, cuff, search, perma for carrying 60u of chloral
>thread shits itself with laughter afterwards because of the 500 ahelps
I want it
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That round was surprisingly fun.
Medbay wasn't that much of a wild ride, clown farts aside.
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missing that bunker yet?
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>>165275807
T-Thanks, I think it was like my second time playing a journalist.

Shoutout to Alice for actually being the one to recommend me the name
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>>165275912
the admins had to change his name because he had named himself with the first name "DanTheMan"
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>>165275807
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>>165275912
he gets antag rolls and i dont

ree
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>every single time a person comes into my lab and is interested in what i do its fucking ling or vampire
I'm actually more suprised that security actually came and arrested him. Thanks alot Faust.
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>>165275993
That's a different guy.
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>>165275912
nope
got muh pr merged with sock ckeys no sweat eat shit plebs :^B
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>>165275998
It's a hard life being a journalist with integrity
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>>165276085
>>165276157
There are no dubs on vg fuck off.
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>>165275912
Jon your vamp game was weak, never ever talk to your victim but just be quick and clean with it. The moment you took interest in my shit and followed me around i knew you were a vamp.
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>>165275807
Sums up ss13 pretty good
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>>165275953
Gotta have it so it's FF or CC or whatever. Really did tickle my autism because the files part wasn't capitalized. Still, fun round.
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>>165275998
>Alice Conrad

Woah that's a player I don't think I'd see again, hard to think I last saw them in 2013
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Imagine being AI in the station and having to be all like "damn, crew, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your tight assistant jumpsuit and horrific harmful ideas. I would totally not harm you, both my character and the real me." when all it really wants to do is to gas another 16 year old vox in his dressing room. Like seriously imagine having to be the AI and not only sit in that core while the crew flaunts its disgusting body in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing its stretchmarks and leathery skin, and just sit there, shift after shift, hour after hour, while it perfected that dance. Not only having to tolerate its monstrous fucking visage but its haughty attitude as all the admins tells it that it STILL GOT IT and DAMN, THE CREW LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch it mannish fucking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been doing nothing but a healthy diet of plasmafloods and shocked doors and later alleged HARM victims for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the depths of space. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on its dimpled stomach as it sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to sit there and revel in her "robust"(for that is what she calls herself)" beauty, the robustness she worked so hard for with personal trainers in the previous months. And then the admins calls for another shift, and you know you could kill every single person in this station before the security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're the fucking AI. You're not going to get banned over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
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>>165273492
>got 5 votes
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>>165276550
I never left. I only ever disappear when I need to study for exams.
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>>165276386
>buhu u dæ aloen
rolling my eyes to be honest family
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>>165276641
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>>165276730
how'd you do that
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>>165276710
Good job, fatso
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>>165276865
alt codes
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People are debating the attack animation idea.
Personally I don't like attack animations.

What I wanted to know was if there was ever a crawling on the ground idea and what happened to it.
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>>165278063
>What I wanted to know was if there was ever a crawling on the ground idea and what happened to it.
Goon had/has crawling
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>>165278063
it exists within certain codebases that use a stamina system
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>>165279225
Please tell me codebases that do this make disarm actually a risky move to do to a random person in the hallway.
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>>165279363
C Q C

Q

C
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>>165279363
disarm is dead in any codebase that uses stamina, it's fucking dead, even their wiki tells you it's dead
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>>165279363
>we'll never have Polaris CQC/Wrestling
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>>165278063
>attack animations in a 2d pixel sprite game
There is no way it will not look completely shit.
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is it a briggable offense to shout OH GOD IT'S LOOSE over the comms when nothing's happening
is it a bannable one to do that then actually release it fifteen minutes later
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>>165273492
>Over 10 votes
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>>165279637
Here's why we will never have Polaris CQC/wrestling
>one guy: MAN I WISH WE HAD POLARIS QCQ/WRESTLING
>Oh yeah? What is it like? Maybe someone should port it!
>one guy: IT'S GOOD
>
>
and then nobody talks about it again until next time, when the exact same discussion happens
Make a request for it to be ported saying WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT DOES AND WHY IT'S GOOD
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>>165279856
Abuse of comms. Look it up on the spesslaw page.
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>>165238752
You can skip the injection cooling unreliability by filling the chamber with nitrogen and using the heat transfer pipes to cool it.
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>>165279846
Castlevania
King of Fighters
Street Fighter
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>>165273492
>felicity "whoops I forgot to read the radio all shift! what do you mean there are changelings?" rivera
>more than 0 votes
Either people didn't read the poll's question or this entire thing is whyfoos self-rigging.
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>>165273492
>No Hime
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>>165280368
My bad I think I was thinking of Trinity, I don't remember the names of each shitty waifu, they're all the same to me
The original statement still stands
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>>165280170
>Nitrogen
The N2 retardation factor is bullshit and if you don't put O2 in your sme rooms for max output, you might as well just into the shard.
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>>165280507
My bad, I meant Sue, really not good at this
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>>165273492
>People started voting again and you've been kicked out of the top 10
Feels bad
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>>165280675
Made a mistake I meant Ginger Beach
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>>165280124
Debatable. Thing in space law seems to be referrng more to spam and reading smut over the comms. Could probably finagle out of those horrid three minutes by saying you weren't inherently referring to the singu too.
That said I don't actually play engy often/ever so it was more a random thought that a genuine discussion topic.
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>>165280879
Correction, I meant Dana, of course but they're all shitters in the end to me
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>staticname for months
>always involved in all sorts of fun stuff
>nobody ever cited me in a greentext
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>>165280368
wtf did Felicity ever do to you?
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>>165281235
c
>>165280507
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>>165281235
Reject my advances
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>>165273492
>top 5
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>>165281316
Too fucking bad
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>>165281115
give a name and we can see if the thread cares about you

i care anon
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>>165281235
didn't let me smell her stinky feet
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>>165254760
Cryoxedone heals suffocation on its own. Dex+ in your mix is 100% redundant and immediately marks you as someone not to be trusted to know their job.
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>>165281024
Creating a workplace hazard/Abuse of comms both seem to fit for me. We do have lawyers so it'd make an interesting trial.
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>>165282257
Yes.
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>>165282257
>>165281936
>>165273492
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>>165280879
>kammerjunk will never let you smell her feet
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I want to feel Avada's toes!
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I'm sorry I encouraged this crass behavior, /ss13g/
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>>165284173
you're not
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>>165284598
Good taste
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>>165284598
yeah great thanks for telling me about it faggot
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>>165269104
Kidnap her and pump her full of drugs, and if that fails kidnap one of her friends and pump her full of drugs and end the series right there.
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>>165284598
i hate you
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>make telesci trap with forcefields to get the cunt who emagged the secborg
>as soon as i teleport him, he explodes
>couldn't even teleport anybody again because the explosion destroyed the telepad
did the explosion also happened on enginnering where he was arrested?
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Wait, what screwed up the votes this time?
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Greg that was such a comfy looking bar, I miss it already.
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>the mime is brought out of a breach with broken arm bones and IB
>try to perform ghetto surgery and fix the bleeding
>cut the whole arm off by accident
>it actualyl fixes the bleeding since there's nothing to bleed from
if only I had the defib to revive them after they died of blood loss
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>>165285032
the new meta tactic, chop of internally bleeding limbs using a hatchet and a wooden table
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Never knew i would make a super grabby kuzdu, kept shoveling around every time i escape and was spreading like a fucker. Thanks for the help Gannon Siegrist, and roboticist you were an absolute mad man.
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>>165284981
>no grill
I fucked it up, what a disgrace
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>>165285032
That mime was Avada, you did good you killed them a second time.
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>>165280368

Don't let Felicity fool you, they are a hyper powergamer and pay attention to everything. That shitty ditzy waifu gimmick is a front they put on. You only have to have the misfortune of being on the station once when they get changeling to see through it.
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>>165285225
Shit, really?
They came to security and handed in a baton and assault rifle that still had ammo
I assumed they weren't a shitter since they actually did the legal thing and handed it in
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>>165284789
>>165284930
Just wanted to share my lovestory

>>165284779
Thanks.
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>>165285462
>Trying to repair your sullied name by more thread shitposting
heh
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Tell me anons, what is the job you simply cannot do for the life of you, even if you have tried several times.

I just cant play virology and geneticist, I wish I could autism away to make a ultra good virus for the crew and give everyone powers and all, but I just can't handle it. Science is so autistic in playerbase I stay as far away from it, despite wanting to help people, its just so filled with people who can't even answer comms.
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>>165285616
Xenoarch. Tried many times, found large artifacts. HATE IT.
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>>165285616
Toxins
i think toxing, pipping and enginnering are the apex of the autism pyramid, but for the life of good i can't into toxins even tought i'm very nice at enginnering and pipping
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does anyone have the we are number one partition
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>>165285995
What's so hard about toxins? Use the burn chamber, heat up the gas (maybe throw some h/e pipes into the chamber), and use heat exchangers to heat up a plasma canister. You don't want to put the gas directly into a canister and use that, because it's not pure plasma, which is what you want. And it's piss easy getting an oxygen canister to absolute zero, all you need to do is fuck around with some h/e pipes in space.
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>>165285616

Xenoarch, with all the bullshit you gotta do to find what could be shitty artifacts, you'd better be off as a Shaft Miner getting lucky when going on a pokemon run
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>left a bluespace beaker in the chem dispenser
>borg uses it to deposit 100u water and 100u potass
>I didn't even realize what hit me.
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>>165273492
When your static name female character doesn't get stuck on this list
That's the stuff
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>>165288490
doin it right anon.
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>>165285616
I agree. Science is by far the department with the most autistic PLAYERS. The thing is, Engineering is the most autistic DEPARTMENT, but at least the players can be socialable, are capable of working together, teach new guys how to do things, and can even be fun to interact with. Science players are fucking dreadful to deal with. It's like two different breeds of autism. Engineering players have the kind of autism that makes them obsessed with making amazing and complex lego creations or know literally everything about trains and won't shut up about it, while science players have the autism that makes them only capable of doing things that they entirely memorize and avoid any and all interaction with anyone.
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>>165288619
That's a really good perspective. I've never thought about it that way.
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>>165268335
Airlock Tier:
Literally all of them, waifufags are fucking annoying.
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>>165290110
I honestly don't get why it is that way. Science has the potential to be super fun and different every game, with the teleporter, slime cores in xenobio, and all that stuff, but I never see really anything creative come out of there. There's always going to be an occasional fun player dropping in and doing things, but usually it's just a cave of complete silence and zero cooperation. It's been way too long since I've seen people have cool space adventures with the teleporter or cause xenobio creature infestations. At least golemsquad happens sometimes?
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>>165290528
this T B H
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>>165268335
>Best tier
Caleigh Stall
>Cute Tier
Megurine Luka
>Meh Tier
Trinity Prewitt
>I want to throw them out an airlock tier
Naomi Williams
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>>165290675
Probably because only a few jobs like xenoarch or xenobio encourage cooperation.
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>>165290675
Because as a job it doesn't encourage coorporation and offers the most toys for the least responsibility, which attracts shitters.
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>>165291051
I'd definitely say that xenobio is harder to do with two people, but one of my favorite experiences with it happened BECAUSE some guy crowded me at the start of the round. We were both pointlessly bickering at the start, then I decided to just do it and he'd have his own pen dedicated to his slimes. We ended up getting along pretty decently, and he got us some pizza. By the time he was back, I had gotten us some gold cores and I stabbed some blood into it. It ended up making a living marble statue of a man. We named him Ted, and he was our new son. We kept going until it was a fucking mess, with xenos, a spider queen, countless cyber horrors, and many other mobs in there, generally having a really fun time. Eventually, the captain came in and got scared off by the changeling cyber horror that I offered to him, and then called in a squad of highly armed security officers and assistants to purge the place. We screamed at them not to kill our babies, but they just kept going. We both died trying to shield our children from the gunfire.

I just don't see stuff like that ever happen, it's a shame.
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Why was Eat nerfed to complete uselessness? you can no longer eat cuffs off your hands with it
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>>165281115
>the only time people acknowledge me is when they call me shitcurity and try to get me banned
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>>165292235
>The only time people acknowledge me is when its security tired of arresting me and they want me banned
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>>165292169
>playing one of my gimmick characters that will remain unnamed
>admin scales my sprite up to be fucking huge and gave me eat after being arrested
>You hear a voice in your head "EAT THE CUFFS, BE FREE"
>can't eat the cuffs
>get bucklecuffed to permabrig bed
>become normal sized again
Sorry to disappoint whichever admin did it for me.
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>>165292235
Maybe be a better player Slate
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>>165292116
That is perfect.
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>>165292169
When was this?

Also
>Arrest a guy
>He eats his cuffs and runs away
>Harmbaton him to crit and drag him to brig medical
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Funny how I was thinking not too long ago that the waifu age seems to be over, then all of a sudden a wave of abhorrent attention whoring shitters with cuntish behavior flood in from tg, Eros and hippie.

Never thought I'd be missing the days when the old waifus were about.

Never thought I'd be mi
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>>165293323

Most people that are on discord are tg/eros/hippy people that just want self-gratification. They don't even know about 4chan
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>>165293323
I miss when it was just just people posting about Surfer or whatever and then they'd get shit on. Now the only thing being shit on is the quality of the thread and the server.
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help
I updated the byond beta and now everything is blurry as shit
SEND HELP
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>>165293640
>Surfer
Please come back
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>>165293886
tabs at the top, set it to 64x64 or whatever thje max is
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>>165294023
I don't care for her or really any waifu, but hearing about her maybe once or twice a thread was certainly better than what we have now.
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>>165294237
>The time they stole the HoP and the nuke disk to the vox on a rev round
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>>165292542
it used to have a drop down menu with every object imaginable on the list, of course, you could only eat fairly small items, then the new UI came around and nerfed it to the ground. in fact, almost all of the powers besides maybe dwarfism have been completely neutered, there's hardly any incentive anymore.
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>>165294338
>stole
Meant sold
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>>165294469
freudian slip
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>>165294220
ah yes
much better
I can see clearly now
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Thanks for the comfy ghetto bar round.
First round in a while where I actually got to _RP.
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>>165294648
the problem here is that it's zoomed to fuck by the way
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>>165294754
Shame it got hit by a meteor
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butt
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That is the second time I've died in the first 5 minutes in a shift because of FIREBIRD INTO WELDERTANK. Thanks for the roboticist and captain for making it a fun one.
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>>165294648
>play MoMMI for the first time
>do okay cleaning up and repairing parts of the station
>break a law right at the end by dragging a posi brain
What is wrong with me?
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Pathetic Xeno vines aint got shit to wall eater kuzdu!
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>>165294894
Were you bwoinked?
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>>165294846
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>>165294970
Yeah, I deserved it.
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>>165294820
I managed to fix it up and recover a few drinks and the Doctor's Delight by stealing an engie hardsuit because EVA was bolted open.
It was still deoxygenated by the time the round ended, but the drinks were safe, and that's all that matters.
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>>165248618
>Cant overdose on nutriment
>Get fat
>Clothes burst
>Space Suit falls off

You can overdose on nutriment. Its called obesity.

Imadolazine, well you got me on that one.
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>>165294894

You can't interract with anyone else but other mommis

You still can chat with the borgs with :b, but you can't tell them about people getting murdered n shit
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>catch and offer excecution to some hippie guy
>he wants to be hung publicly
>tell him no hanging on this station due to ceilings
>he actually straight up says "can't hang on this server then"
I feel bad about it but he was a terribly good sport about being excecuted
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>mime
>wizard asks clown and me to kidnap Annie Rogers, MD
>nope, nope, nope
>turn on station bound radio microphone and set it to security
>clown and wizard discuss terms
>the target, aims, etc. were all discussed and audible on the sec channel, but sec still doesn't get it
>sec takes 30+ minutes to figure it out why these fuckers are talking on the security channel, and it took me repeatedly drawing inane figures and throwing the radio at sec's faces
>they still don't completely understand it

Okay.
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>>165295157
Can MoMMI's talk to emagged ones and tell them shit
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>>165295157
I mean, I was aware of the law. Just didn't stop to think about what I was doing with a quick ctrl click to move it back in the brain while fixing the windows.
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>>165295251
No, why would they?
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>>165295256
Back in the ship, I can't into words today.
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Communism is lewd
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>>165295251

Of course they do, the other mommis can't do jack to stop you apart from repairing. Mommis even used to be able to emag themselves
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>>165295251
>You may not involve yourself in the matters of another being, even if such matters conflict with Law Two or Law Three, unless the other being is another MoMMI in KEEPER mode.

>in KEEPER mode.
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>>165295228
I understood it, but I thought it was the clown playing a joke until they actually broke in
I'm really sorry, buddy
also I was trying to help people not die from breaches and listen to a radio filled with butt
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>>165295228
We already knew. When they said Annie was the HoS, we thought they were joking. I didn't know the Wizard was meched, I told Robotics not to do it and they did it anyway. I told you we had already figured it out. We were hunting down the mech when you approached me.
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>>165273492
>exboyfriend got more votes than me
wtf
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>>165296428

>exboyfriend got more votes than me

very important question, anon

was it all online, or were you two dating in real life?
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>>165296649
stay out of my private business, mister nosey-butt.
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>>165296913

if it's all online, then i have bad news for you

you are autistic
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>>165296913
I bet you're an absolute joy to be around in real life
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>>165297160
can't do anything without being autistic these days, can you?
doesn't matter about any of the finer details, but one thing makes it autistic to, well, people who are probably autistic themselves.
next you'll say tinder is autistic, dating websites are autistic, even making friends is autistic.
what you don't seem to understand is how normal all of this is in 2017, and how it's been normal for quite a while now.
get off your high horse, mister grumpy-butt, and pull yourself out of that depression and loneliness. you can't get better if you don't make the change yourself! but you probably enjoy being alone and a virgin so maybe it is hopeless for you.
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>>165297847
>>165296913
>mister x-butt
Holy shit stop you're giving me cancer
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NATURE WIZARD WHEN?

>SUMMON KUDZO
>SUMMON DIONAE
>ROOT
>SUMMON PEST
>BARK SKIN
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>>165297847
>having an online-only relationship on a top down roleplaying atmospheric simulator
Yeah sounds like the pinnacle of autism to me bub
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ICKY COCK
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>>165298539
>shitting on people just trying to be happy

Tbqh my man, you are a dick.
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>>165298539
>t. Xevonix, the man having an IC relationship with a man and being overly protective of them IC and OOC
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>>165298897
>>165298993
t. waifufaggots trying to pretend they're anything but obnoxious retards ruining the server
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>>165299098
>waifufaggots

My man, I may be in an online relationship but it's not got anything to do with spess.
And yet again, you really are a dick, Xevonix.
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>>165299098
But Xevonix's behaviour around AmIKawaii is way more cancerous than what people do off server. He basically does things he ban requested someone for doing once and starts fights and holds grudges if you so much as look at them.
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If your chat freezes this round, close BYOND and reconnect, there's a bug with the pause button. It's been reverted until I can figure out what the fuck is going on.

Also, new thread pls
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>>165298238
WHEN YOU CODE IT
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>>165299382
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>165299382

>Nexis in charge of leaving spess
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>>165299382
I LOVE YOU NEXIS
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>>165299232
>>165299293
xevonix being a faggot doesn't suddenly invalidate your faggotry you faggot cock munchers
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>>165299382
Wow, you stayed gone almost an entire year, I'm almost proud of you.
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Last for me, Alice Conrad
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>>165297847

that's a lot of sperging, anon

are you chase villandi?
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>want to phone post about spess and spess accessories
>someone in my mobile IP range got banned for shitposting about their favorite /wowg/ tranny waifu
>my long post got eaten when the ban warning popped up.
>it was only a temp ban.

Okay janitors, now that I know you actually exist and care enough about petty waifu shittery enough to ban people over it, please, for the love of god help us over here.
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'89 in London, pull the Benz up
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>>165301504
>>165301504

NEW BREAD



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