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Visual Novel General #1342

READ THE FOLLOWING, THIS IS IMPORTANT
>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:
1. Be in Japanese locale
2. Read the Readme
3. Read the wiki below
4. Google it

>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:
http://visual-novels-general.wikia.com/wiki/

>Need a novel with a specific element?
http://vndb.org/g

>Download Links:
http://pastebin.com/U7HUj0fk/

Previous thread:
>>168487036


This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.
E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.
Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.
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^_^
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>>168568349
I really got to beat this game.
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When will we get to play her game?
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wooooo
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>>168568524
i-is she ok?
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>>168568541
Im sorry I have to protect Ilya.
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>>168568635
Just the usual.
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If there's one thing Visual Novels need more of, it's foulmouthed loli's who cuss in engrish.
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>>168568541
Are you dicking her yet?

That's where I stopped for the day.
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>>168568787
I love that shit for some reason, especially when it's in broken english.
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>>168568787
>heterochromia on a FUCKING LION

When will this stop?
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>>168568892
yeah, I'm gonna fap to the H-scene and then call it a day

we can be miyakofags together, anon
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>>168569052
Enjoy, anon.

I didn't fap to it yet, I'm leaving it for tomorrow. Let me know if the scene is good or not, I'm counting on you Miyakofag.
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>>168565228

KS is great just the threads have nothing to do with KS anymore. Game has been out for like 5 years now basically.

I'd have to imagine there are a few refugees here that just got tired of it and wanted to play more visual novels.
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dammit Michiru
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I need my SuckiSucki
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>>168569345
oh your talking about the ks general, not /vn/. No that place is a shithole. I actually came here from there 3 years or so ago. I didn't even know visual novels existed when I read ks. Thought it was some 4chan meme game since it's from here. boy was i unprepared.
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>>168569385
>The spin-off where you fuck class prez into submission and get her addicted to your cock will never be translated
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>>168569587
Yeah, KS is a gateway drug. The generals were okay until like 2014, when they just didn't have anything to talk about anymore. Katawa shoujo is a great game, honestly the only western shit that seems to be admissable around here. Really a shame they haven't made a second one yet, I would pay good money for that.
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>Download a VN
>See it has uncensored scenes
>Get to one
>Artist has evidently never seen a vagina or penis before
>Everything is so poorly drawn I can't even get a boner
>End up wishing it was censored
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>>168569345
>Akira
Still mad.
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>>168569645
what ? they actually took the h seriously in that ?
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>>168569818
Demonbane had a pretty bad case of the artist not knowing how to draw dicks.

The dicks looked like summer sausage.
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>>168569818
you think people that have anything to do with VNs have seen an actual vagina before?
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>>168569265
>Let me know if the scene is good or not

it's pretty good

she cums an awful lot, though
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>>168569818
every time.
that's why i prefer mosaics.
and how i grew to find ero shit where genitals aren't actually displayed hotter than fully explicit shit
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>>168570063
Years worth of withheld horniness do that to you.
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Why the fuck would anyone agree to anything this stupid of a fucking plan: Sachi's route:

Like, with all the fucking pain she has about her parents: how the fuck would she think "LOL YEAH SURE THAT WILL WORK."

God fucking damnit people.
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>>168570403
think of it like shock therapy
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>>168570059
Shigeo has
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>>168570059
A lot of the artists are women, at least the popular ones. Ironically, they draw awful looking vaginas and have terrible art. See: Inugami Kira, Hinoue Itaru, Nishimata Aoi, or mostly any other moege artist.
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>>168571143
what the fuck is up with that neck holy fuck
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>>168571143
Jesus christ what the fuck.
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>>168571361
>neck
more like that literally everything
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>>168571143
Every single Air picture makes me smile like a school girl. The art is just so silly.
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>>168571434
How does someone draw that and think that looks ok?
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>>168571143
wow can't even say it's better than Key art this time
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Which visual novel has the best art?
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>>168571724
Every Key vn
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>>168571724
always thought hoshizora had a really visually pleasing art style. shame i can't think about the vn without thinking about the true route
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>>168571834
Yeah, I've heard Favorite VNs were snoozefests desu
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>>168571390
>>168571434
>>168571490
I like this one
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>>168571991
Worst kind of moeges, honestly
They get everything right except, well, the writing
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>>168571724
Yu-no, Subahibi (despite being dumb), ef (more to do with the colorist and background artist than the actual character artist), and a lot of PC-98 games have really impressive and detailed art. Purple Software games usually look nice. Uh, Rance games before Orion went to shit with Rance Quest.
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>>168571991
don't know about any others but yeah, it was pretty heavy on the sol so it's not for everyone. i have really mixed feelings for it.
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>>168572168
>Subahibi
lol
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>>168572337
xD lol
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>>168571724
I like the look of Liarsoft VNs
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>>168565984
Are you actually defending Yumiko's episode in the anime adaptation? Are you fucking daft?
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>>168571834
I'm a sucker for Liar Soft's older games - Forest, Ignaock, Sharnoth, etc. Their artstyle wasn't great from a technical perspective, but it had a ton of personality and was fairly different from the artstyles you typically see in visual novels.
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>>168572168
>>168572337
Subahibi's CGs kind of really vary a lot in quality to be honest. The good CGs it has, though, are really memorable. One of my favorite CGs from the game was the one where Ayana and Takuji talk in it's my own invention, when Ayana brings up tsui no sora. Just looked pretty cool.
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>>168572576
I like you anon.
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>>168572576
>>168572689

hivemind
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>>168571724
Innocent Grey's newer stuff. Shit's amazing.
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Is Sekai project ever on time?
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>>168572689
Kusarihime has their coolest art style.

>>168572750
The only bad artist they had was the one doing the imouto cgs.

>>168572784
Too bad their games are pretty bad if Kara no Shoujo is anything to go by. I have some hopes for Cartagra since it's a different writer though
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Random question, what the fuck is makina saying that makes her dialogue different?

I noticed that her voice acting always like ends with this "AY-YO-SAN"

what the fuck is she actually saying that makes her voice different
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>>168572898
consider suicide
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>>168573458
I don't think I understand what you're trying to ask. Maybe it's hard to translate it directly into English? Maybe what she say's is in some king of nip childish slang that makes it sound more unique.
I dunno, it's an odd question.
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>>168573458
i think it was explained to be like an accent/dialect. like a japanese Glaswegian
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>>168573458
A lot of jokes can't be directly translated into english so they localize them.
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>>168573458
It was a dialect. Probably Kansai, though possibly Okinawan or something else.

I seem to remember them mentioning it, about how easily influenced she was by things, and she saw someone on TV talking in one of the dialects so she started imitating them for awhile.
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>>168573817
i thought she pick it up from amane but just emphasizes it
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>>168572898
>Kara no Shoujo
>Bad
Kill yourself
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>>168573458
>>168573646
>>168573649
>>168573732
>>168573817


Yeah, I suppose the best example would be when you change her voice. If you change the sound menu and just start clicking random shit: you'll see that she ends like everything with this like "AY-YO-SAH" or something. It's just odd, I'm just wondering why she ends a lot of her sentences the same way.
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Well?
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>>168573983
its like black americans ending everything with nigga
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>>168573983
Just a vocal tic? ~desu
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>>168574034
kek
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>>168573458
>AY-YO-SAN
lmao anon, it's nanoyosa. It's similar to nanodesu, a verbal tic that makes the speaker sound cuter
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>>168573952
>>168573612

It's a ripoff of Mouryou no Hako and has an absolutely retarded true ending. Kill yourself.
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>>168574127
Ah, thank you. I don't know why I'm god awful at picking up on syllables for Japanese speaking.

It just sounded strange, I suppose we don't have an english equivalent
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>>168574309
http://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/25474/what-does-%E3%81%AA%E3%81%AE%E3%82%88%E3%81%95-at-the-end-of-a-sentence-mean
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WHY SACHI
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>>168573817
>when amane gets mad and she speaks in that accent

muh fuggin dick.
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>>168574679
Cartagra has a heroine that speaks all the time with a similar accent, dunno if it's Kansai dialect but shit's hot.
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>>168574758
Isn't that Natsume from KnS?

>Tokisaka-han~~
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Think I'm getting close to the end. This is getting really tragic, jesus. It's not tear jerking yet but I know it's getting close. Will report back soon.
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>>168575014
you are still a decent way off from the end. don't bother saving your tears because there is no escaping what's coming.
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>>168575563
WHAT THE FUCK THEY ACTUALLY DID IT
WAIT I DIDN'T EXPECT THAT

OH BOY
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>>168575614
you ain't done with it bro.
or it ain't done with you, eh
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>>168575614
AND THIS.. IS TO GO.. FURTHER BEYOND
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>2560x1837
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>>168575563
i can't wait til he see's That (good) ending screen , i was like just watery eyed until that cg, then my eyes leaked alot.
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>>168574919
Nah, Rin
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>>168575614
Told you it really ends with a bang.
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>>168576217
for the love of god don't read this spoiler grisaia anon.
that scene holy fucking shit. It took a moment for me to register what was happening. and then the music box kicked in. AND THEN the music box fades into the ED song. I went from dry to literally not being able to keep my eyes open. This was the first time I think I actually felt tears in what must have been 20 years. They were physically in pain.
meikyuu is a cruel tease with sachi throughout every single route.
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>>168576579
Anon it was sad but not that sad, it ain't got shit on Clannad's field of feels.
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>>168574526
>>168575014
>>168575614
Remember she can't deny a request. i loved her route btw.
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>>168576373
Amane's is better cause it leaves you hungry for more.
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>>168576579
I shall not read it.

>>168576661
I still need to finish that. Though, I'm not too keen on the fucking finish every route before you can see the afterstory.

I'm not feeling anything from this moment right now. They just blew up a fucking school and they're trying to be sentimental about it. What the fuck, I'm honestly in shock that this is happening still.
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>>168576661
yeah it wasn't. I have no idea why I reacted that way. it was probably just the ultimate release of my pent up autism or something.

the sunflowers were pretty bad but didn't give me nearly the same reaction.
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>>168576823
Ah yeah they fuck there iirc
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Dovac needs to buy Triplicate and Irru desu.
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>>168576823
WAIT WHAT THE FUCK I KNOW THAT MUSIC CHANGE

IS THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENING LOL
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>>168577090
heh
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>>168577090
remember Mitcher m8
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I've only just started Sachi's route but it's been nothing but a headpat simulator. I love me some headpats but this is just ridiculous.
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>>168577090
Best girl.
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>>168577328
Play Teaching Feeling for an actual headpatting simulator.
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>>168577131
>>168577201
>>168577342

comedy fucking gold

srsly though guys this h scene is really fucking out of place
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>>168576292
Ah fuck I'm still mad,she and Tojiko didn't deserve that
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>>168577379
You mean you don't get aroused from explosions? fuckin weirdo
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>>168577342
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>>168577431
I fucking agree, yet I still keep reading because despair keeps me hooked. Freaking InoGrey.
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Heh. She knows just what I want.
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In all honesty though, this is a pretty good sex scene even if it's out of place
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alright

I've got to wake up early tommorow. Hopefully I'll finish this soon. Every is really taking this blowing up the school thing really lightly.
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>>168578452
Might as well get it done with while you're still in the mood of the scene, there isn't much left, just the last choice I think.
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>>168578452
That's because Sachi's route is kinda dumb. Not as dumb as Mitcher's gets at a few points, but still kinda dumb.
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>>168578558
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>miyako has like 5 "routes" in majikoi s
so she's pretty much bad end at this point
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>>168579087
yes that's the joke.
wrong choices almost always lead to Miyako "endings"
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>>168578558
there's still an hour or two left at that point i think
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>>168569040
Pretty sure it's Aslan man

Lion Jesus can do what he wants.
>>168569052
I still have not read Miyako's route. She even ruined the Ryouzanpaku harem ending in A-4.

Okay Rinchuu route is godawful anyway but she made it worse!
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>>168579087
She's a bad ending for Homura route and one of the endings for Rinchuu, complete with actual sex scene. That joke will never die.
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get out of my VNs, /pol/
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Through determination, the dream became true.
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Whose eyes are those eyes?
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おやすみ
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THAT! IS!! NOT!!! MY!!!! COW!!!!!
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>>168579087
Almost all original majikoi bad ends are miyako ends.
I remeber how if you do not go after chris every time you end up fucking miyako.
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>>168572898
>Cartagra
It's trash but since you didn't like KnS you'll probably love it. Have fun with the MC's Mary Sue sister and the literal "It's magic" answer to the mystery.
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>>168581172
Sounds more like /x/ territory to me, but I guess they're both as deluded as each other just in different ways.
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>>168571724
Planescape: Torment
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>>168579087
Miyako is like a monster that only love can keep away. So Yamato either loves someone, or gets snatched.
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Truck-kun.. why..
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>>168583434
Truck-kun does not think about the why, he sees a chance and he takes it.
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>>168583434
Because FUCK YOU, that's why.
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>>168571996
Can that little girl handle such a big cock?
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>>168583434
>There is a VN where Sachi had to choose between "go home" and "return to my house"
>She choose the wrong option and got her parents killed
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>>168569385
I want to fug Nee-san.
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is moros sub-route Trap moro ?

pls yes
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>>168584918
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>>168585291
see
>>168585325
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i just skipped the fuck out of lucia's route in rewrite

did i fuck up?
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>>168585171
well so far this doesn't well engaged...
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>>168585569
>rewrite
Your only fuckup was not skipping that game altogether.
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>>168586030
It's not that bad, I enjoyed Chihaya's route.
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>>168585075
You know, I'm glad I've just gotten past that part in the story, but that's still some pretty serious spoilers. Ctrl s wont kill you.
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https://curiouscat.me/Moogy/post/105111963
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/our artificial intelligence/
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>>168581347
>No pic
What are you doing with your life?
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errr that started nicely but... not good, not good at all, Yume was infinitely better.
dammit.
now to see where do those asspulls come from and i'm done with it
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There are two types of stories: The hero is forced out of their comfort zone or a stranger comes into the town. Mysteries are always the latter: the detective comes in to a neighborhood and uncovers the truth at all costs. In Danganronpa V3, the beautiful detective character Saihara hates how whenever he solves a case, that means he is uncovering every dirty little secret of the community. Only the truth matters and that's why mysteries can function as a sociological tool.

But Umineko doesn't really do that. I honestly don't know what it wanted to be. You never really understand the whole cast. The denizens in Rokkenjima have their own backstories and whatever, but they aren't that important in Chiru. Even Battler, the goddamn protagonist, is a mystery because he is a badass dude and that's it.

The rules of the system are puzzling too. Red lines tell you only the truth and that's a neat take in how mystery rules work. But later on, more colored lines just "overcome" the red truth and that doesn't make sense in any context howsoever. The system in the game feels like the writer is just making shit up and doesn't try to make it easy to follow. Mysteries are very close to video games. Imagine playing Mario for the first time and getting the controls at level 1-1. But when you reach 5-1, you learn that not only you can jump and stomp enemies but you can also moonwalk and kill enemies that way too. There is nothing to clue you in that being Michael Jackson can kill enemies until that part. You would call it bad game design. Likewise, a mystery system like Umineko would be bad mystery design. You are given a premise and you expect the work to follow it through.
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>>168588027
In Chiru, Umineko gives up its premise as a meta-mystery of sorts and becomes an escapist embrace for love. In the end of the game, it mocks mystery readers who only want to uncover the truth -- most mystery fans love the emotional scenes in mysteries -- and then has the characters murder them. Love is thus the only answer the game actually gives to a series of mysteries that is revealed to be "fictional" in its world. The original mystery is left forgotten -- though at that point, you would know who the murderers are but unsure how the hell they did it -- so the work can be propaganda for this delusional kind of love. Let's just say mysteries hate delusions and untruth, so this part of the game is very much not a mystery.

There's more to say, but Umineko in general rejects the characteristics of the genre. It would be weird to call it a mystery.


t. moogy
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>/vn/ idolizes vn-celebs that didn't even start with the Greeks
>/vn/ reads translated VNs by people who didn't even start with the Greeks
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https://curiouscat.me/kastelpls/post/105150803 Hahahahahaha Uminekofags just got blown the fuck out by kastel
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>>168589106
>kastel didn't start with the Greeks
>hate greek philosophy
kastel dosen't have any authority on anything

his word is trash and without any meaning or authority

If you haven't read The Bible or the Greeks, you don't know shit about writing, literature, movies etc.
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looks like some interdimensional travelers got lost, and their reality seems to suck.
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>>168589304
I hate when that happens.
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>>168588637
>>168589264
>there's people here who haven't studied buddhism and atleast read the 4 chinese classics and The Tale of Genji
how can you expect to have an opinion on any eastern asian produced product when you don't know the foundations of said work
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>>168578775
Why do you have an image of Filthy Frank in front of a tank with the jojo to be continued on it?
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>>168590157
Why don't you have a picture of joji in front of a tank with the jojo to be continued on it?
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>>168590845
Well I do now, thanks for the new image.
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>>168589106
>You never really understand the whole cast.
Stopped reading right there. Umineko probably has some of the more well-developed and interesting casts out of the majority of visual novels I've read. Kastel probably didn't actually read it.
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>>168568301
use ShareX you fucking mook.
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>>168585569
There's nothing relevant to the other routes in Lucia's.
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>>168585569
You miss out on a cute date scene. Nearly everything else is awful.
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>>168593296
not that guy, but i also liked the ghostie part, quite spoopy, tho i didnt at all like how it was resolved.
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>>168569818
really wish MG gave the option to choose on their uncensored titles.
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>>168593296
Good. I felt like skipping it because I didn't feel interested in the character at all. Also her voice is annoying.
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>>168593435
You still need to do it to do Moon and Terra unless you are using a 100% save.
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>>168593498
I ended up holding CTRL for 5 minutes.
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>>168593710
Same thing
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>>168593893
How is it the same thing? Doesn't it count as done if i saw the credits?
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>>168593930
It does, I don't know what he's going on about.
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>>168593710
>I ended up holding CTRL for 5 minutes
Okay so I'm going to go full retard here, but bare with me. Do speed runs for VNs exist?
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>>168593930
It means that I did it too.
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>>168593930
It should be fine.

>>168594118
>Do speed runs for VNs exist?
As far as I know there isn't. And it would just depend on how long it is and how fast you click the choices if they did, so no real point or achievement to them.
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>>168594213
Oh. Based fellow Lucia hater anon.
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>>168594454
No, quite the contrary. Lucia's route is my favourite from this shitting chinese powerpoint.
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>>168588027
Did Moogy write that? where?
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>>168594772
>>168588027
I have no idea who moogy is, but from what you guys post here he sounds like quite the retard.
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>>168593186
>my sharex shortcut for capturing a window is ctrl+shift+2
>i end up skipping if i want to take a screenshot
>way too used to it to change it now
Life is suffering.
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>>168575674
>you ain't done with it bro.
>or it ain't done with you, eh

2deep4/vn/
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>>168595249
i just use this window somewhere on my 2nd monitor
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>>168592563
No, it doesn't, Umineko characters are terrible, you barely know anything about Battler or Beatrice, Yasu's motives don't make sense, Kirye is completely evil and insane out of nowhere, same with Rudolf, he's just there and is kind of Kyrie's bitch, Natsuhi? Krauss? Hideyoshi? the chef? those are barely characters in the story.
why did Nanjo help with murder? you can't really explain it with money or his feelings of guilt, all we know about Rosa is that she's a terrible mother , Yasu's fanfiction about her Ep2 don't count, being fiction.
Jessica? her whole character is falling in love with some boy she barely knew, and could even tell it was her best friend.
Seriously all the characters in Umineko are completely underdeveloped to the point of being almost cardboard boxes.
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>>168577379
>this h scene is really fucking out of place

That was the internal working title for grasaia. They changed it just prior to release.

By the way, does any one else hate h-scenes but refuse to read VNs that aren't 18+ unless they're just fucking amazing? Like, I want to see the lewd art, but don't want to sit through 5 minutes of garbled gibberish text ...

"ooh chuchuchu smacksmack ughughughuhguhg grrrr ruff ruff pantpantpant"

... The only "h-scenes (and I am using that term loosely in this case) that I could sit through were Katawa Shoujo because they were written as complete thoughts and told a story instead of scrambled letters meant to imply godknowswhat. 72 VNs later, and I have yet to find a VN that wrote sex scenes in the same style as KS. It's like one of the few things KS got right.
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>>168595249
you do realize if you hold alt+screen shot then it only captures your window right?
I guess if you're using windows there is the snipping tool as well.
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>>168579087
>>miyako has like 5 "routes" in majikoi s
>so she's pretty much bad end at this point

Back in the days of 85%, every Miyako bad end from other routes were pretty much considered the natural, good endings because it was the only way Miyako received the ending she deserved since her route translation was on hold indefinitely. Watching her sneak off into the bushes with the protag for a quickie in the middle of another route was a feel-trigger. It just felt right, and we cheered for her.

Ever since her route was finished, you don't see nearly as much love for her, which is a shame. She'll always be best girl to me.
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>>168581172

One day Circus will explain just what the fuck Suginami is. DC 3 has implied he's an incredibly powerful mage. There was one dream sequence in someone's route (forgot who) where the protag was like "Holy shit, there's some power here, who is this??" and he popped in Suganami's warped dream. But he's never displayed any real power, and in DC1/DC2 he's shown pretty much straight up ignorance of some things he should know more about if he was a powerful mage.
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>>168596064
It's not like his the same Suginami everytime, they're probably just descendants of each other.

DC Zero Suginami > DC1 Suginami > DC2 Suginami > DC3 Suginami.
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>>168596363
It is unlikely to be the same person but not impossible since Ricca is 400+ years old.
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>>168593396
Virtually every single bloody uncensored mosaic I've seen has been absolute garbage or barely passable. Even the amateur rigwork done for Majikoi was barely passable. Okay, but in the end not worth it honestly.

This is coming from someone who did decensor and restoration work. Its a pain in the ass at best and with heavily mosaic'd work you are up a fucking cliff unless you know exactly what the fuck you're doing. An idiot will only at best make something that looks like plastic.

I think the only decensor I could actually tolerate was Romanesque's. Though that's mostly because the artwork's style in the first place made it far easier than normal.

An easy example of something one might be able to decensor would be Sayori's works if they sat on their ass for six months studying her artwork, then they might be able to start and take another six months because of the insanity they're attempting.

I'm bout ready to pick up coding again and make patches for MG games that remove the garbage decensors.
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>>168596882
Please do. It's not that I don't appreciate MGs efforts but when the original art is that laughable, it's better to leave things mosaicd.
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>>168595434
Hideyoshi is the only one without a personality.

Every character has a background, and their motivations are explained.


Did you even read Umineko?

Smdh tbqh @ moogy dicksuckers like you
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>>168596882
Yea it feels weird, also it's doing the complete opposite of turning you on during a scene. Onegai
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>>168596064
>But he's never displayed any real power, and in DC1/DC2
What do you mean?
He pretty much knows about every mystery.
In DCI he knew the reverse trap was a girl and in DC2 he knew where Minatsu was hidden.
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Does DC3 have canon route like dc1/dc2?
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>>168599019
Yes.
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>>168599019
Yes, but this time best girl wins.
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>>168599512
But Himeno lost, anon.
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Have you ever read something so retarded that it completly enraptured you in its retardedness?
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>>168599113
>>168599512
So who is main heroine? Charles?
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>>168599938
DC1: Nemu and Sakura kinda
DC2: Otome
DC3: Ricca
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Chris route in majikoi just took a weird ass turn. i read majikoi for the cool stories and the fun atmosphere, not fucking rape jfc.
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>>168600338
nah she wanted it, it ain't rape.
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>>168600338
Chris's route isn't the only one where yamato forces his dick into whoever he pleases.

If I recall he ends up forcing himself on Margit, Angel, and Yumiko in S. Not as flat out bare intent as Chris's but same shindig.
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>>168600989
You also forgot the Hegemon in one of the Majikoi As
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>>168601221
>>168600989
>>168600338
God i need to finish all the majikois already holy shit
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>>168589106
Uminekofags will never recover.
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Should I play Princess Evangile or Noble Works?
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>>168603034
Noble Works is bad and is partially machine translated or something, some parts read like shit.
PE is a good moege.
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>>168603034
Both
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>>168603158
NW was fine and read fine with few errors. MTL or not it was well edited.
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>>168600338
>Ok buddies, I've so hard thanks to drugs that I could be used to sharpen diamonds
>Now I'm going to rape this chick until she likes it, so she stays
>"Yamato you're a genius, best of luck"
Straight out of a nukige. Though not even nukiges have friends cheering the dude on like that. The "since you were saving yourself for marriage, and I boned you, you have to marry me now" line was specially messed up.
Then again Majikoi's tone is a rollercoaster. In one scene you have cheery gay rape, in another semi-serious "don't do drugs, kids".
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>>168603554
Thinking back on it, it was pretty retarded, and he kinda does it again in S. It got me off both times tho
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is agave long? im impatienttttt.
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>>168605050
How can you even read VNs if you arent patient, shit takes a long ass time
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>>168603086
Is there any lewd scenes in that one? I think i remember someone saying it was clean.
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>>168605140
ALL
AGES
KEKGE
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>>168603554
>Straight out of a nukige
More like, straight out of ancient Japan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yobai
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>shit art
>big black dogs
>moon symbolism
>denpa scenes
>powerful protag who doesn't use his powers for some reason
when does rewrite stop being tsukihime?
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I just can't understand what is wrong with grabbing someone by the pussy, why are mangagamer staff such vile assholes?
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>>168605885
Japan never ceases to impress, my god
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>>168605885
>If the woman consented, they would sleep together.
Chris not consented though.
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What is better, introducing girls slowly in common route or throwing them at MC from the first moments ?
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>>168607084
I like them thrown at me. That was there isn't one that gets an "unfair advantage". I know it sounds retarded.
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>>168607178
Not at all. I think the same.
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>>168607084
In DC3's case it ends up kinda pointless to throw them at you, to then half throw them away when it reaches the magic school section. The real intro to the game is the first side story which introduces them more slowly.
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>>168607178
in my head i worry that the first 1 MC met, assuming a slow introduction, is the true route. Even if i know its false, it just feels like it some times.
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>>168607603
this is basically how it is in PE
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>>168605885
>If the woman consented
Nice try Yamato. Don't you have other foreigners to rape?
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>>168598050

That's just knowledge that goes along with being part of the Unofficial Newspaper Club.


Here's my take: DC3 canon says he is an extremely powerful mage. That means he has the ability use magic - and damn well. It's implied he's at least a rank 4+, enough to overshadow all the teachers and general rabble at Weather Vane in the protag's dream seeking.

But there's never any sign of it through the other Da Capos, aside from the immortality/lack of aging which 4 other characters share. There's opportunities where his magic could have aided so many people in crisis while he was present, but he stood back and did nothing. In fact, he pretends (?) to have no knowledge of magic at all.

He also has no known relatives in any of the canon. Name 1 other reoccuring DC character where they haven't mentioned their geneology, not even a parent. Because of that, I seriously doubt there are 3 descendants that are all perfectly identical.

Not only that, but there'd be a gap of 2 more Sugs between like 1990 and 2050 if they were just going to keep naming their kids who (always looked and acted the exact same) the same name. It's really unlikely and not like the DC writers to go that far in the shadows without hinting at it.

So Suginami is 1 person, at least 200+ years old. I think he has some sort of reason for never interfering in any events on any timeline. Maybe because of the true purpose of the Unofficial Newspaper Club or something as guardians of the timeline.

... It's been years since I saw that DC anime on that subject, though, and I'm not even sure it was cannon. I don't think so.

he's one of the most interesting characters in the Da Capo universe (both because of his fun character, and the mystery surrounding him). I'm surprised people don't talk about him more often.
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>>168603158

Princess Evangile is pretty much required-reading for anyone that is into moege. It should really be one of the first 20 you go through. You'll end up doing it eventually.

Noble Works is disposable. At best. Like, 1 step above complete trash. If you were just starting out on VNs, and Noble Works was the first one you read, you'd quit VNs completely.
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>>168595434
Literally even the stake nee chan had character development let alone the other ones. Are you fucking kidding me ? You goat.
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>>168595249
>install something just for a fucking screenshot
nah i'll just keep using the snipper to fuck with you
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>>168587784
Nee-san is the superior one.
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>>168609375
Noble Works was the third VN I read and I liked it. I wont say its godlike but its not that bad.

I read Koirizo, Nekopara, and attempted Koichoco but dropped it. I might pick Koichoco back up again and see if I can read it through. I liked the story, didn't mind being spoiled that Chisato is a bitch, but I'd rather attempt the Silmarillion again if it infodumps forever.
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>>168609375
PE is too long, if anon prefers shorter works then NW is better choice.
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>>168609375
>Princess Evangile is pretty much required-reading for anyone that is into moege.
No. its shit.
t. moebuta
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>>168610401
>>168610136

What did you find enjoyable about Noble Works?

Someone mentioned translation problems above, but I didn't notice them. I DID notice the bland heroines, and how the writers consistently insulted your intelligence with scenarios that disallowed suspension of disbelief.

They just hammered these scenarios into you, one after another, where the characters behaved in a way that was completely inhuman and unnatural. They had zero situational awareness and perception, and lacked the ability to ask simple questions and analyze common sense anomalies.

And yet, at the exact same time, it tried to take itself really seriously. "We're super serious about our drama, just please don't ask questions and ignore all the plotholes. It's cool" ... like, what the fuck?
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>>168570403

senpai its a school built for rich people to dump their damaged goods kids, who cares what happens to it.
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Isn't jun maeda ded yet?
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Friendly reminder that: Nee-san > imouto.
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In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
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>>168611124
Nigga it's a moege. Play it for the cute girl interactions and comedy which I found plenty of both in it. Also Maya.
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>>168611615
>it's a moege
Why read it then if there is better choice?
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>>168611707
Because its not as bad as you claim.
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>>168611707
>reading visual novels for the plot

When I want actual good writing, I read actual novels.

When I want cute girls, I read visual novels.
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>>168611615

yeah, that was half the problem. it wasn't written like a moege. it was written as a drama with heroines, but demanded the reader have low expectations of a moege. then throw in completely boring heroines and lack of humor. it was shit. If you think it was good, you need to read more VNs.
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>>168611880
I bet you also hate on Koirizo completely dismissing it's relaxing values.
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>>168611879
>for plot
No, why read it "for cute girls" if there're better girls.
Also moege plot should not be ignored completely.
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>>168611124
Its probably because my taste is shit and I also read it during a bout of depression but I found the nonsense of it and mostly instead of the heroines (where I did like Akari and Maya best, and though I disliked Shizuru's route I cackled like a motherfucker at "Taa-shama") the side characters to be the main draw.

Akari is a tsundere done right imo; Sena's route and heroine I will admit looking back on it lacked literally everything; I didn't bother with Hinata's route because I have a severe dislike for Kouhai/Imouto type routes; Maya's spaghettilord antics and that her Dad's an ass, but a cool guy was nice; and Shizuru's route made little sense but I went with it because it had a moment or two.

I noticed a few translation errors myself (Amazingly enough since I'm nowhere near as nitpicky as I am now), but I've ended up learning that its just Yuzusoft. Their works aren't anything special but they don't try to be. There's going to always be plotholes and inconsistencies in a flimsy character-based moege, and its pretty much what you take from it.

I'll probably go back and re-read Noble Works since I'm not as stupid as I was a year ago, though probably still in a rickety state of mind. Also I think I had two or three embarrassment chokes in NW? I know I had more for Evangile, but that's a personal thing.
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>>168611984
Koirizo is shit even as plotless moege.
I mean, 2 routes have sex-scenes before confession. It's no-no for "pure" love game.
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>>168612138
I've reread it not too long ago and I still enjoyed it. It's just like you said; a silly moege that doesn't try to be serious.

I don't know why some autist is claiming that it is.
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>>168612207
Its not great but it has redeeming values in a scarce selection of TLd titles.

To say you shouldn't dismiss titles so easily
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>>168612138
What do you mean embarrassment chokes?
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>>168612763
Secondhand embarrassment. Not as bad as cringe but enough to make me want to nervously giggle myself to death. Generally the whole walk into changing gag literally makes me gag.
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lel, starless is actually comedy gold.
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>>168614050
much better
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>>168614402
>scat scenes
Not my cup of tea sadly. Even though I've been able to eat food and browse gore, I still ain't got a stomach for scat.
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>>168612650
>it has redeeming values
Like what? Its a dogshit on par with Koiken Otome if not worse.
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>>168611707
I enjoyed NW a lot but PE pissed me the hell off a lot of the time with it's god awful repetitive ass drama so that I couldn't even finish a single route.
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>>168611707
name five (5) better choices
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>>168613113
Those are the best moments in moege. As well as walking into a bathroom while in use
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>>168611998
>Also moege plot should not be ignored completely.
You mean the retarded headmistress drama plot in games like PE? If I wanted some kind of decent plot then I wouldn't be reading moege.
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>>168614812
Just try not to think of the smell
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>>168605140
Not really, it has sexual themes and sex scenes, but they're not hardcore. But even the original is tame. it's a character based story with moe and sci-fi elements.
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>>168615139
Koichoco, Da Capo 1,2,3, Hoshimemo, Dracu-Riot, Majikoi, Canvas 2, My Girlfriend is the President, Shuffle!, Yoake Mae yori Ruri Iro na. And I am sure there is more.
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Has anyone read Himawari? How is it?
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>>168614872
Its literally the only TL'd VN with Resort, One of three with any respectable weight in Beach (The others being Natsuiro Mikan and Shiny Days), and one of 20 under the Island tag.

I highly doubt anybody is going to TL Aozora Stripe (Moege), Bi-chiku Beach (Nukige), C.D.C.D. 2 (Circus's Combo fandisk), Yume ka Utsutsu ka Matryoshka (Nakige), Tropical Kiss/Vacation (Moege-cum-nukige) or the fifty little nukiges that feature a beach. So if you want a comfy beach resort VN, you're fucked unless you take Koirizo.

Hell, Koirizo and its Fandisk are 2 of the 5 VNs on vndb with the Resort tag, the others being Paradise ee and Tropical Vacation/Kiss
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>>168608946
The Suginamis look and act completely different from each other, also Suginami is his last name, it's very likely they're just relatives, like Nanaca in DC2 was a relative of Kotori from DC1, but it was never mentioned until after a few fandiscs.
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>>168616274
It's shit in english but an unequaled masterpiece in Japanese.
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>>168615995
Are you reading that route right now?
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>>168616274
It's good because of Aqua, the rest of it is average
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>>168616102
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>>168616307
>Its literally the only TL'd VN with Resort, One of three with any respectable weight in Beach (The others being Natsuiro Mikan and Shiny Days), and one of 20 under the Island tag.
Talk about low standarts.
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>>168616274
It's good, the first chapter is a generic moe/SoL story that sets up various mysteries surrounding the characters and events of the game , but it gets really good from the second chapter.
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>>168616274
I love it, one of my favorites.
Aqua best girl.
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>>168616395
Huh? Why?
>>168616438
>>168616719
>>168616728
I see, thanks! I'll get it.
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>>168616431
That's from the common route, it's a random screenshot I happen to have, I already finished the game.

BTW I didn't read the new content in the remake, the extra stories from the light novels, can anyone tell me if they're worth reading?
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>>168616708
My tastes are shit, and I'm aware of it.

Doesn't change the fact that if you want something different than "Average School Setting #20006 with maybe some sort of interesting plot mechanism", you're going to have to consider Koirizo.
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>>168616984
Disgusting, Aries really looks like a child... Why would you want nude scenes with her in it?
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>>168616984
Woaaah the original had nude Aries? And a CG of the panties scene? Heh
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>>168616984
I didn't like Komorebi that much. Kagerou was good though.
They're both important for Aqua After as far as I know.
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>>168617168
Yes. There is reason why MG's butchered version of Himawari considered kusoge while original is a kamige.
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>>168617346
You what? What else did they butcher?
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>>168617105
Is this an actual question?
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>>168617424
It's the Vita version. MG didn't butcher anything. Also the original art is dogshit. Also stop avatarfagging, retard.
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>>168616996
:(
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Eternal lolis are for loving and marrying.
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>>168617714
pedophiles belong in the trash
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>>168617714
And post-marital anal sex, you forgot to add.
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>>168617714
>>168617860
What is this from? I need it for...science.
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>>168617013
Nothing wrong with a school setting if it is done right. We also have Island and Dal Segno coming out soon for more Island type settings.
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>>168617714
>you will never fuck you're waifu in the ass and get a poop noodle
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>>168617781
and schizophrenics who can't tell reality from fiction belong to the loony bin.
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I've been studying Japanese for 4 months and I still can't fluently read a VN. Why did you guys lie to me?
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>>168618463
I'll take the bait.
>4 months
Unless you've been rigorously studying 8 hours a day every day you'll probably not reach minimal fluency for a while.
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>>168617424
MG didn't butcher anything, the PC version of Himawari is a port of the Vita remake, and the remake is based on the latest release of the game, Pebble in the Sky, which was released for consoles, there's some stuff that the author rewrote for that version, because you can't get away with 15/16 years old drinking and having sex, or nudity of them.
So the changes are, no mentions of alcohol, even though it's very clear they're getting wasted,
no explicit sex or narration of it, though it's very clear the sex it's happening in a given scene,
and no nudity of course.
G.O also changed some of Daigo's lines( a character in the second chapter) because he sounded like the worst drunken old man that made sexual jokes that were supposed to be funny, but ended up being some creepy shit.
The original isn't worth playing but I'd still recommend it to see how they changed it and hpw shitty it used to look, and judge the changes, but you can't really do that with a translated game...
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>>168618463
I was able to read Muramasa after one month of study with a 95%comprehension rate. I think you're just stupid.
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>>168618675
No mentions of alcohol? What are you talking about? It mentions that there is alcohol in their drinks in the new version. But I see, thanks for explaining!
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>read over 200 VNs
>regular on /vn/
>run out of interesting VNs
>move to anime for a year
>revisit VNs to catch up with new stuff
>check into /vn/
>flood of trash talk about majikoi/miyako
>flood of trash talk about grasaia
>fanboys fellating people shilling their own projects
>high praise for noble works

God, this place has completely gone to shit. Everyone should be ashamed of themselves.
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>>168618841
IIRC they added some new drink with 1% alcohol or something, it was sake in the original.
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>>168619051
Oh yeah. It is called Jun'ichi or something.
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>>168618463
Try reading a basic moege, desu. When I was at four mouths, I could easily get through one of those with minimal problems. Obviously, though, there were still a lot of words that I had to look up, but it wasn't so much to the point where I lost enjoyment.
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>>168618998
>gone to shit
so it's exactly as how you left it
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>>168618998
It was always shit.
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>>168618998

It's so nice being a JOP, you can read whatever you want and don't have to beg for scraps like EOPs have to.
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>>168618675
Daigo sounds like a rapist even in the remake.
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>>168618675
There was actually a bit of an internal row over some of the content, the translation team wanted to use the original script when possible but got shut down completely by blank note directly because they considered the edited one the correct and definitive version.
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>>168618998
The only way to save /vn/ is if we all learn Japanese!
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>>168618998
This is actually one of the better times for the general. We aren't having things like the /vn/ vs /vng/ OP wars or the Neko vs Dies Irae shitposting or the constant Himawari shitposting or the MG drama shiposting etc.
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>>168618998
so, it is actually same as the last year?
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>>168619051
It's pretty strange, though. I'm pretty sure Aqua gets drunk on whiskey a couple of times. Guess it's OK when Aqua does it?
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>>168619720
Lost the poll.
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>>168618998
>>flood of trash talk about majikoi/miyako
But trashing about majikoi isn't normal and you'd have to be a special person to like miyako.
>>flood of trash talk about grasaia
There's been both talk of it and trash talk since Meikyuu ungimped came out a month and a half ago.
>>fanboys fellating people shilling their own projects
No shekels were harmed in the shilling of that project.
>>high praise for noble works
Less high praise, more don't literally throw it into the trashbin immediately. That'd be like calling a completely average chocolate bar shit because you have this super duper good high quality chocolate bar now.

Also this is the best /vn/ has been in a year considering we're not 100% shit. More like 75% now.
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>>168618998
Yeah, dude, I honestly feel the same way.

Here we are in 2016 and I'm left perturbed by the way the community has grown. Though my goal of bringing more titles to the west has been accomplished in a big way by a variety of companies and individuals, the fanbase is still content to simply sit around discussing the flavor of the week instead of venturing out of their comfort zone and exploring what's available to them. It's like we never left 2006, just with a slightly different set of games being hailed as the end-all, be-all of the medium by people who don't know any better now.
Unfortunately, I'm becoming more and more aware that my perspective on matters is irreconcilably distant from the western fanbase's. I care a great deal about eroge/VNs and am very personally invested in the subset of Japanese fiction that they represent; I went out of my way to learn the language just to further explore Japanese subculture and contemporary literature. Meanwhile, the western fanbase seems to just treat any Japanese media as an extension of anime or video games, just part of the same overall "fandom" if you will. To put it another way, I'm interested in the "canon" surrounding eroge, while people consuming translations are content to simply treat them as individual products.

Honestly, I shouldn't have even posted in here. The way I approach the medium as a whole and what I look for out of eroge/VNs are simply too far removed from the western fanbase's to have any sort of meaningful discourse with people using translations, and I accept that. But at the same time, as someone who helped build the community as it is today, I guess I'm unable to fully suppress my irritation at the way it hasn't developed into the ideal I imagined for it over the years.
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>>168619448
I prefer some of the original dialogue, and I'm sure Conjueror does too, that's why he wanted to retain some of it, like the scene where Asuka discovers Aries in Youchi's house, she accuses him of being a pedophile that gets off to watching lolis pee, since Aries wanted Youchi to go to the bathroom with her, but in the remake she just accuses him of having an illegitimate child or something like that that isn't funny.
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>>168620109
hadn't seen this arrogant pasta in a while
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>>168620109
you're not welcome here moogy
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I honestly just want to read VNs.
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>>168620679
Why is spurdo calling me a homo?
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>>168619635

MG drama shitposting was great, though
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>>168620923
For one day. When it lasted weeks it wasn't since it basically drowned out anything else.
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>>168618998
>move to anime
>Everyone should be ashamed of themselves.
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>>168619983
It's pretty strange. A lot of the regular shitposters seem to have left after the Dies Irae KS.
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>>168621425
They'll be back.
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Why are JOPs so fucking boring? They don't have many memes or shitposts, they just have boring discussions.
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>>168617964
Haven't played it yet, but its something from Favorite looking at the artstyle.
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If Subahibi doesn't come out today I'm ending it.
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>>168621705
they think mongolian porn power points count as literature
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>>168621698
What happend to the bottom of that image? Did it get corrupted or did someone paint over it?
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>>168603086
>People actually read butchered all ages version
>And bringing it here.
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>>168623213
I don't really see it to be honest.
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>>168616996
It's been 2 hours and i'm still sad as fuck. I didn't ask for this.
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>>168623716
Yeah I don't really see it either. Is the CG wrong? Youichi said they are inverted or something so I was really trying hard to see it but can't find it. So I thought maybe I am just looking at it wrong?
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>>168623817
Maybe like this?
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/a-clockwork-ley-line-a-visual-novel-trilogy
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>>168624318
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>>168624318
>Leyline has been sitting at Engine/QA for literally half a year or so, was translated extremely quickly
>now they want 60k so they can release a physical collectors edition
>eta: Jan 2018
Ladies and Gentlemen, Shill Projkekt.
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>>168623817
>expecting cg to match text
VNs aren't particularly known for this kind of consistency
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>>168624318
I hate SP.
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>>168618998
>high praise for Noble Works


No you illiterate fuck. People are just saying its not as bad as some retards say it is.
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>>168624753
Yeah but I assumed they would pay good attention to this CG. Meh I guess I was wrong.
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>>168624318
>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/a-clockwork-ley-line-a-visual-novel-trilogy

Duuude.. they're almost done with it and then they make a kickstarter? What the fuck man.
>https://sekaiproject.com/progress/
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>>168624318
but why
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>>168624743
>was translated extremely quickly
It was a fan TL they bought.
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>>168624318
This looks pretty interesting
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>>168625020
Oh even fucking better. So its been sitting at roughly QA/Engine since they picked it up about 8 months ago.
That's fucking great. Another drink for me then; "Sekai Project delays something, again".
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>>168624983
>A Clockwork Ley-Line: The Borderline of Dusk is 100% translated. Engine/QA work is in progress.

>A Clockwork Ley-Line: Daybreak of Remnants Shadow is 40% translated.

The second one wasn't there before, I guess they just added it.
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>>168624318
>>168624983
This is sekai's latest strategy. Instead of kickstarting the project itself, they kickstart the physical release of the game. It's a win for them in several ways, because the kickstarter isn't for the localization, they don't have to answer any questions related to it or provide any transparency. It's also pretty widely known kickstarters tend to make more money than products released directly because whales to shell out much more than asking price, and hard copies are normally hard because it's difficult to predict demand.
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>>168624983
>>168625282
I eat my tongue then. Though if its a trilogy and they decide to go "hey guys let's just release all 3 at once" they're looking at mid 2018 considering their slow as shit pace.
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>>168625275
Not to mention that the first part was 100% TL'd and edited back in April 2015 by the group and stalled for another year most likely due to talks with selling to Sekai Project which they announced last March. So yeah, the first part has been done for a fucking while now.
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>>168625516
The trilogy shows an expected release of January 2018, and with how well they stick to schedules, mid 2018 sounds like a best case scenario.
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>>168625525
Okay that's enough for me, I'm probably halfway to a heartattack now with this unreasonable amount of rage against Shill Project. Have a good day folks.

Probably because I learned management and business as part of my culinary training.
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>>168625741
hahahaha do you have a degree in culinary arts
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At least they are committing to the trilogy before the first one goes up on sale, rather than dropping it after the first if it has bad sales. It would be rather pointless to only play the first title when the latter two are significantly better.
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>>168625887
yeah man can't wait to read it all in 2025
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SP is yenpress of VN?
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>>168620923

Damn, that's some good art.
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>>168624318
>the game will of course be available in both All Ages and unrated versions!
What the fuck. I love SP now!
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>>168626320
If the game sells well enough then maybe one day we'll see the fandiscs done.
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I think I'm in love, /vn/.

She's 18, right?
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>>168624807
>People are just saying its not as bad as some retards say it is.
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>>168626956
Possibly, but I don't think so.
Take in mind they spent 3 years learning, so mayyybe they're 18 in the last year, where they get fucked.
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>>168627004
>I don't like it
>I think its shit!
>Nobody else is allowed to like it!
>My word is LAW!
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>>168620923
Is Eustia a healing VN? I need to get Asako out of my mind..
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>>168626320
>shit story with bland whoroines and side characters that are 50x more interesting than main routes.

This is DC3 in a nutshell
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>>168627284
>Tomoe route teased hard in DCIII
>never got a route in the fandiscs
it ain't fair
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>>168627284
all DC3 girls are great, you shit eating mongoild rape baby.
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>>168627486
RIP ;_;7
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>>168627486
No, just reading VNs. And being a normie sometimes.
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>>168626881
>If the game sells well enough then maybe one day we'll see the fandiscs done.

Dude this is Circus we're talking about. Expect 6 different version for different regions and age ranges, 12 fan discs, plushies, lunchboxes, PSP Ricco Poker, pillow cases, shell phone cases for iPhones, highend crafted designer broach boat collector itemns, tinkerbell necklaces, ch-ch-ch-chia cherry trees, and logo'd fog machines with laser projectors for fake stars and suns on ceilings.

They milk every fucking thing they do for every last yen they can.
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>>168627235

and people say /vn/ can't agree on anything. Look at us! Stickin' it to the system!
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Which VN has the deepest themes?
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>>168625525
is that widely known or buyers are just unaware ?
i buy from companies i hate, it happens, that's business, but i don't get how people would ever accept to pay for what is ultimately negative added value
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>>168627635
>all DC3 girls are great,

You ever have one of those moments when someone says something so completely retarded that you don't even know how to argue with them? Because in order for that to work, they'd have to be able to demonstrate common sense, and they simply can't? You see this alot with feminists and politicians.

Yeah. I feel that way right now.
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>>168627619
I think there's VA related issues? They had to re-cast Ricca and Charles to initially go 18+, I imagine that was a limiting factor in some of the characters getting adult content in the fandiscs.

>>168627756
Well yes, but I mean in English. It's amusing how much they milk their products, we got the 3rd release of DC3 for example. There's two fandiscs (so far), it'll be interesting to see if either get localized.
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>>168627921
Grisaia, Michiru route
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>can't enjoy VNs unless they have lolis in them
>most VNs only have a token loli and the rest of the cast are tit monsters
>always a tossup on whether her route is shit or not

I feel like I'm missing out on a lot just because my tastes are too specific. I blame the internet for overexposing me and destroying my libido.
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>>168627703
post umi
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>>168627921
Grisaia chiruchiru and Meikyuu true route with Asako.
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>>168628064
Okay.
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>>168628061
Maitetsu soon lolibro
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>>168628061
>tfw murderloli
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>>168628064
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>>168628242
MUH
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>>168621705
If you mean the ones at /jp/ they're mostly manchildren.

You should try and tell them that some actual literature from the west might just be better than their favorite VN, then watch the highest quality autism play out before your eyes.
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>>168627921
>Which VN has the deepest themes?

I really enjoy Ever17 as being one of the more rewarding VNs. It is really, really, really long and almost drags at times. But the last 5 hours or so were nonstop goosebumps.

I am not sure I'd have the patience to sit through it again since I'm older, if I didn't already know how huge the payoff was in the end. That thing was just ridiculously deep and complex. The more you read, the more questions you had. Like, 40 hours straight of build-up.
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>>168628272
can't wait.
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>>168628479
but ever17 has next to no "themes"

it's just plot without a deeper meaning
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>>168628015
thats because you are braindamaged retard with shit taste. stick with majikoi which cater to even lowest common denominator like you with thei dog shit tier girls, instead of kamige like dc3.
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>>168628381
Honestly though, those untranslated VN threads on /jp/ just feel boring as fuck, it just feels kind of stale, you know? That might just to be how slow it is, but I feel it's also due to the kind of shit they post. Maybe it's because I'm just used to the memes and shitposting here.
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>>168628381
>Damn I love the Mega Man soundtracks!
>You think those are good? Psh. Ever listened to one of Bach's cello concertos?

Yeah you sound like a knob and you deserve whatever backlash you get.
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>>168628568
>but I feel it's also due to the kind of shit they post
Yea moege and even more moege.

>Maybe it's because I'm just used to the memes and shitposting here
You are, though that place is heavily moderated as well.

>>168628783
The hell are you even talking about?
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>common route has characters being close friends with MC talking every day
>enter heroine route - they all dissapear and show up once in a lifetime
why
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>>168629037
gonna to shoehorn this black haired tsundere ice bitch so manchild would feel happy!
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What is the visual novel equivalent of this video?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFIn708ssFg
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>>168629037
Because that's what happens in real life when you get a girlfriend.
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>>168629417
Literally euphoria
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>>168629525
What if I have a harem?
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So did anyone ever translate the Angel Beats VN?
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>>168598050
>In DCI he knew the reverse trap was a girl
>reverse trap
i never played these series but now i might
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>>168629716
Her route is jop only.
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>>168629640
Pretty sure Visual Art's said they were bringing it over. No one knows when it will be out though.
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>>168629845
Thats a big imouto.
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>>168629753
what's that?
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>>168630261
Only the best imoutos for you.
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>>168629845
Anyone got a mega link for imopara?
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>>168629845
>imopara
>imoutos in every size
>imopara 2
>1 loli
>everything else is cowtits
Fuck everything.
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>>168628545

I didn't think I'd ever hear "kamige" alongside a Circus title. Crazy days we live in.
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>>168629845

This is a perfectly logical recommendation. I see no problem here.
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>>168632002
Suika is close to being one
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>>168630313
I meant it's only exists in japanese.
Forget it, her route actaully translated in partial patch.
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>>168628545
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>>168631907
>86, 76, 77, 82, 90
>90, 95, 99, 88, 70
At least in the second you get a literal wood board. Cowtits ahoy though.
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>>168631907
I thought imopara was boring as fuck, the girls look ugly as fuck and the game didnt engage me at all.the voices were fucking shit desu
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>>168631907
Nice to live in cowtitge era.
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are there any websites that will send you email updates when translations are released? i use vndb for my lists, but they don't have any notification
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>>168632674
Just lurk this thread, whenever something is released it's guaranteed to have at least a couple posts discussing it.
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Da Capo 3 is a kamige. Kamige.
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>>168632895
hidoi.
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>>168632895

i doubt kids these days would understand how sinister that is
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>>168633098
Ritsuko's route was the best diabetus I have ever had. There needs to be more kuuderes like her.

>>168633294
Some do.
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>>168633435
my second best, Maya rules
also holy SHIT
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>>168633904
>having sex in a church
fucking heathens
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>>168627921
Ever17 is pretty deep.

Literally.
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>>168634000
I'm going to sound like an autistic retard for a moment and say that that's the reason why i dropped the Ritsuko route.
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>>168633860
because they are the fucking Justice
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>>168633860
cause youre manchild.
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>>168633904
Is cockfighting an accepted club in that all-girls school? Pretty hardcore.
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>>168628242
>Asagao
Muh
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Is there any VN where you can disregard all females
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>>168635075

anything made by circus.
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>>168635075
remember11
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i want to fuck my sister, need vns!
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>>168635075
DRAMAtical Murder
Hadaka Shitsuji
No, Thank You!!!
Enzai
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>>168635390
ImoPara
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>>168635510
Too many lolis.
Ryou a best.
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>>168635390

do people who were actually raised alongside their sisters for their whole lives ever say these things? Or is it people with step-sisters, or 10-year age gaps, or single child status?

I mean, my sister was 2 years older, and I just can't imagine it. It's just gross. I've seen her at all those moments she'd never show a boyfriend. I've seen the 'sanitary napkins' left in the bathroom. this nauseating used underwear scattered all over her room. I've seen/smelled her nasty ass when she was sick and didn't bathe for a week. I've seen her natural personality and stupidity. There is no mystery there. There is no charm. There is no real feminine appeal. She is just another human.

What do people see in this stuff?
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>>168635824
All those people saying "I have sister and its gross" sound just like fox with sour grapes.
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>>168635075
In True Love you can disregard all females and fug your male friend or your cat.
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>>168635824
i don't think (i have to add, MOST, seeing as this is 4chan) people are actually thinking of their sisters anon.
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>>168635824
People without sisters find it hot
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>>168636025

I really think it's a Japanese thing. I mean, women in the US are degenerate gluttons. It's true, and anyone who's spent some time around women know it.

Aren't Japanese women more reserved? Wouldn't that extend to family relations where they'd be able to maintain their mystery privacy and feminine charms even while living with their brothers?

That might explain all the imouto stuff.
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>>168634245
>that's the reason why i dropped the Ritsuko route
ahaha what. what a fucking loser
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>>168635824
pretty sure i would've banged the shit out of my little sister when i was 13-16
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>>168636330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR1oVch3O_U
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>>168635824
My first erection was to my onee-chan who is 5 years older than me when i was like 9 yo.
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>>168635824
I love brother sister incest but I don't see my actual sister in a romantic/sexual way. It might not make sense but that's how I feel. It's like I'm attracted to the taboo or the appeal of a girl "who's always been next to the MC" or something like that.

Sister heroines are like an upgraded version of osananaijimis.
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>>168634245

sex in church is great. did it one time. some cathedral that was open 24 hours. it was like 3am. it was dead quiet. enormous echo of every sloshing sound. she left her panties on the altar when we left. knowing how wrong it was made it an amazing memory
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>>168636502
you would have banged anything with a hole, anon
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>>168636667
Maybe it's because of indoctrination or whatever but that's disrespectful AF.
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>>168635741
>2 lolis
>one hyperlewd the other pure loli
>too many
I bet you fucking search vndb for All Kyonyuu Heroines too, homolord.

>>168635824
I have two older brothers and no sisters, I have had no contact with any of my cousins in over eight years. I'm more interested in the taboo like >>168636642 rather than actual incest. Forbidden Love is a very rare fucking tag on vndb because of how new it is, and the fact that 95% of it is incest, instead of some other plot idea.
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damn this gay world!
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>>168636881
disrespecting to what you fucking moron. You think a big pair of eyeballs are looking down on the scene shaking judgmentally?
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>>168636881

sorry if i offended your imaginary friend.
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>>168637272
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>>168637064
>no clear release date for SakuSaku or Wagahigh
Kill me now.
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>>168637427
thats a dead meme anon. your delusion is becoming a minority. grow up or get ran over for the rest of your life.
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>>168637463
believe in kickstarters for both.
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>>168635824
Yes, because I have no problem distinguishing reality from fiction. Two sisters and brother btw.
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>>168637617
Do the kickstarters involve a non all ages release?
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>and brother
mmh ?
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>>168636881
ignore those guys anon I know exactly how you feel. Most visual novels are disgusting and I immediately drop any that has premarital sex or lewd jokes of any kind.

can you even believe that one moege that literally named the MC messiah?!
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>>168637925
They always do. Can't sell porn on kikestarter after all.
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>>168637559
>>168638035
Whether you believe it or not it's still rude as fuck to do it. It might not be real to you, but it is to them.
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>all these degenerate normies

Western society sure is dying.
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>>168638326
lmao fuck off christfag
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>>168638546
>normies
>>>/r9k/ >>>/reddit/
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>>168638326
who is it being rude to, exactly? it's a school in japan that uses the building for traditional events and parties. they aren't even practicing christians.

How does someone so evangelical even look at visual novels without being disgusted at pretty much everything that goes on in them? Do you lash yourself to repent for your distasteful reading and masturbatory habits?
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>>168638087
Then they're worthless then aren't they.
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>>168638326
Nobody gives a shit.
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If I want to read da capo III, do I need to read previous two too? Their art looks atrocious.
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>>168638565
You should probably head back to _l e d d i t_. I hear people like you thrive there.

>>168638825
I don't think what i'm trying to say is getting across. Maybe it's because i'm shit at explaning it. But if people genuinely believe that it is the house of god, that it is sacred. Then doing stuff like that is surely disrespectful to the people who believe?

>>168638990
Cool bro, then you should just let it slide instead of replying so that it can finally die down.
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disrespectful as fuck desu,
why is this allowed?
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>>168639208
/vn/ is an atheist general. I think you should leave.
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>>168639208
>Cool bro, then you should just let it slide instead of replying so that it can finally die down.
I replied because I'm a cynical fuck who enjoys pointless confrontation on the internet
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>>168639023
DC2 art aged extremely well imo, especially the sprites
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>>168639383
I noticed.

>>168639365
Again, i think you troglodytes are misunderstanding. I'm not christian, i enjoy lewds but i still find it disrespectful. I guess you'll grow up some day.
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>>168639023
DCIII is the worst one of the bunch,
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>>168639532
Glad we can understand each other. But really, it's not as if we've got anything better to discuss.
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>>168639532
put on a tripcode so i can filter you for being retarded
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>>168638825
It is stated that a good portion of the students are actually christians and mass is indeed celebrated in that church, whether the students assist or not is up to them.

Also, not that guy but you don't need to be a total religious nut to find the act of fucking in a sacred or important place offensive. It's just showing some empathy/respect for the people who believe it.

I'm personally not a believer and didn't get offended at anything in PE but I can see how some people can. Jap culture wasn't influenced by it so they can freely joke around and reference the bible cause they think it's novel or whatever but it doesn't make it any less offensive for the people who believe. I bet that if a gaijin made a game with tons of references to shinto and had it portray people fucking at a shrine, a good portion of the shinto believers would get pissed. And yes, I know Japan doesn't take its religion as seriously as the west does.
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>>168638825
>Do you lash yourself to repent for your distasteful reading and masturbatory habits?

That's my fetish.
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visual novels are inherently non-christian. Why would you even be using this medium if you have a problem with it
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>>168639852
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>>168639023
>Their art looks atrocious.

DC1 and DC2 art is atrocious? Are you fucking 12? It's might not be cutting edge, but it's perfectly fine. Not exactly 8-bit.
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>>168640075
that's not a very christian reaction image my man. Please say 20 hail marys in order for the lord to forgive you
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>>168639532
>I'm not christian
It's like you're trying to be retarded on purpose. The whole lack of respect for things. Who hurt you anon?
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>>168639948

jesus christ, let it go. god damn you guys are uptight. post more loli, less religious philosophy.
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>>168639023
I II are pretty much tied by plot. Read summary or watch anime.
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>>168640426
>jesus christ
>god damn
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>>168640426
>taking the lord's name in vain
Disgusting.
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>>168640401
please jeremiah. you don't need to pretend to be on the other side to make your arguments appear more legitimate. You can insult everyone you want if it makes you feel better on an anonymous image board. I only feel bad for you. It must be difficult seeing less and less people kneeling to your imaginary overlord every day.
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>>168640595

DCIII is really light on lore. It's a prequel. There's a lot of "oooh, I remember that!" moments, but nothing that is tied so closely into DCIII that you need to read 80 hours to prepare for it.

I would suggest asking someone to tell you a bit about Sakura ending up in London (that isn't shown in DC3) because I feel like that's pretty important. It's just hard to do without spoiling parts of DC2.
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>>168640851
Says increasingly nervous man. Honestly i'd probably feel bad for you if i thought about you at all.
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>>168640883

speaking of, does anyone have a screenshot of the DC2 screen where Sakura is in London? Do they show Ricca in that? I remember someone talking to her in DC2, but did they SHOW the person talking?
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>>168635824
Used to jerk off all the time to my real younger sister when I still lived at home. Being older than her and noticing one day that she suddenly had tits on her chest, then a noticing a year or two later that she has a nice ass did shit to me. Never would act on it unless I knew I could 100% avoid any form of trouble, so it was pretty harmless. I recognize that she has zero appeal to me as an individual, I was just sexually attracted to her.

10/10 would break imouto in
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>>168641163
>real
I should say 100% blood related
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>>168641163
That happened to me with my cousin, freaking teenage hormones. I have no idea how I managed to control myself, I was fapping 5+ times a day when we were on a family vacation.
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has anyone else read TB?

The common route was a bit silly, but had a few heartfelt moments. There was a bit too much SOL so it got a little boring. Also, why in the world did they think it was a good idea for all the routes to just be about the same events if they wouldn't keep consistency?

A lot of the writing is a bit vague too, was this machine translated?
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>>168641128
I remember that, they don't show her, but she says she's "the magician of time"
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Nee-san > Imouto.

Only degenerates would disagree.
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>>168641723

so circus assraped the da capo canon to make sakura's london appearance something completely different. well done, circus. way to stick to what you're good at
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>>168641820
I agree.
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>>168641820
>he doesnt want to crush the hymens of those younger than him
>he doesnt get diamonds to the idea of a smaller body than yours writhing in pleasure and pain
>he doesnt have the drive to dominate weak, small females

kill yourself my man
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>>168641820
Okaa-san > Nee-san
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>>168642197
what this anon said.
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>>168641671
>TB
I fucking hate acronyms, how the hell am I supposed to know what the hell that is cunt?
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>>168642350
the bible
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>>168641671
The only good thing about TB was the female characters and Adam. The battles, story and the extremely unlikable MC was just awful.
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>>168641671
>A lot of the writing is a bit vague too, was this machine translated?
Yes.
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>>168641820
Ara ara~ > Onee san > Shit > Imouto
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>>168642350
https://vndb.org/v9205
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>>168642994
Warawa lolis > Ara ara~
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>>168642197

Honestly, man, virgin girls are really just a pain in the ass unless you're really into her and looking for a longterm commitment.

I get that it's like /pol/'s ultimate fantasy, and I can only assume that's because they haven't actually had sex with one. It's not enjoyable. You have to be very slow, and very gentle, and constantly check her comfort levels, and panic when she squints every few seconds and question if it's because you did something too hard/fast/angled, and it's pretty much just complete torture for the male unless the girl is one of those """"virgins"""" who feels no pain and has a canal the width of a 2-liter.
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>>168643167
you're clearly delusional. ara ara is love in it's purest form.
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>>168643346
*its
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>>168639354
kek
that scene was pretty hilarious though
looking glass insects really got better after zakuro got gangraped
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>>168641163
Budding breasts are force to be reckoned.
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>>168621191
LOL
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>>168643404
thanks man. english grammar is weird as fuck when the only other languages you're better at is german and russian.
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>>168643346
especially when it's a sensei doing it.
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>>168643737
It's easy to remember if you take into account that when "it's" has an apostrophe it's the contraction of it is.
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>>168643652
>moege show you and the heroine's kid in the afterstory
i love that shit tbqh
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>>168643652
>all cowtits heroines with token loli
>episodic release
Frontwing really dropped the ball with this one.
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>>168643996
Its the best thing desu
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>>168644107
don't forget it launched with mosaics and they backpedaled hard on it and began releasing it uncensored in an attempt to sell more copies.
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>>168616996
I didn't need to remember this on the weekend.
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>>168644319
And they're going to repeat their mistakes with a completely all ages episodic plot-focused grisaia.
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I finished Rio, do I do Aya or Hiyori next? I kinda wanted to go Aya first to get the cowtits out of the way but Hiyori is too tempting.
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I just don't get the cowtits thing. It must be hard making breasts that look sexy under clothes, but also sexy naked. Anything over a D cup just starts to look stupid. But anything under C cup doesn't give enough curve under clothes.
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>>168644802
Aya. you want to do Kohaku then Hiyori back to back.
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Third day of Angelic Howl, my god this drags out with menial bullshit, by the end of this im not even gonna care about whats happenning im just going to be pissed it took so long.
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>>168644319
>launched with mosaics and they backpedaled hard on it and began releasing it uncensored
Wait what? There's a non-mosaic version?
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>>168646396
that's what you think eh
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>>168646396
welcome to the club
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>>168646396
Don't worry, when it gets going it really gets going. It really could have done with trimming the first quarter or so down slightly though.
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>>168646889
The only thing i have so far from the first 3 days is that there is a lesbian couple, 2 people are near death from the crash and kazuki consistently raped yuuji through his childhood.
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>>168646396

>every Key VN ever made
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>>168646449
Yep. Second and third shouldn't have mosaics while the first was/has gotten a re-release without mosaics.
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>>168647230
>>168646549
>>168646889
>>168646472
i dont have to play all 17 days of this right? it jumps a few right?fucking tell me please i dont want to suffer like this
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>>168646396
I get what you say, but "the menial bullshit" is necessary in a story, people aren't robots who proceed 100% rationally concerning themselves only with "relevant" things. Angelic Howl is pretty well written imo.
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Even when kidnapped Yamato just casually has a threesome..

I'm liking the rest of the agave route so far, but this feels more than a little out of place.

is there the loli-redheads route in a sequel to majikoi? pls yes
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>>168647463
It does have a time skip where it glosses over some days, there is also a small break in the middle where it cuts back to the present.
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>>168647593
The threesomes in the agave route are a setup for the feelings of momoyo and tatsuko in S but they bugged me alot, really out of place imo
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>>168647501
Problem is that aside from Kazuki and Amane the characters they introduce get barely any development so you end up not caring about them at all which makes the whole thing boring.
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>>168643220
I was just fucking around anon, I understand that no one wants to fuck a virgin, you're looking to get off and have fun, not hold their hand unless you actually feel something for them. Fucking small girls is superior though.
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>>168647593
The threesomes in the agave route are a setup for the feelings of momoyo and tatsuko in S but they bugged me alot, really out of place imo
>>168647501
Not saying its badly written, its just grating on my nerves because i know what is going to go down and theres a pit in my stomach because i dont know when its all going to shit
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>>168648132
>>168647501
also see >>168647926
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>>168647926
>the characters they introduce get barely any development
I just mentally remember them as phone throwing girl, and bandaged girl and girl with dog and so on because of that. They didn't really get much more characterisation to remember much else.
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>>168648541
Hey at least they will get that sweet /ss/ scene with Yuuji in Rakuen.
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So cuming 3 times in a short matter of time is fine right? It cant be gay.
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>>168649032
Dude its gay. Nothing wrong with being gay
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>>168649181
>Nothing wrong with being gay
but thats gay.
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>>168649032
Faggot
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>>168649032
It's only gay if you swallow, anon. Everybody knows that.
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>>168649383
I thought it was also if the balls touch
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>>168648132
now im on a second threesome?! This one feels somehow more out of place!
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>>168649476
I mean that depends on what rules you're going by, but I believe that's also one of the universally accepted criteria of gayness. So you're entirely right.
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>>168649573
there's more to come anon
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>>168649573
>now im on a second threesome?! This one feels somehow more out of place!
They're both badly inputed, when you get to the second game you understand why they did it, but still its there for the sake of the route filling the quota of having more than one h-scene
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>>168649573

if you've ever been a 3some, you'd remember that the theme of that whole party is feeling out of place.
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>>168649813
this is actually annoying. They both feel needless, H-scene for the sake of it, and i would say the fact momo is in the second one is actually counter to her personality in her own route.

i know my annoyance is irrational but i've spent 4/5 days marathoning this game, thought i'd hate agave, come to really like it, and now it feels like someone just took 2 steaming hot dumps on it.

REEEing pretty hard rn
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>>168649908
>if you've ever been a 3some
son, do you realize where you are?
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>>168650606

Meh. I'm just a dirty normie. But I know I'm not the only one. SHOW YOURSELVES, FUCKERS.

Who else has a wife/kid/house-in-suburbs and more than 10 sex partners in their life? C'mon!
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>>168650974
>more than 0
already you're in a minority, kek
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>>168650606
Just getting your dick wet is a huge achievement here, not sure how getting a threesome is even considered in the first place.

>>168650974
Fuck off. I dicked the only gf I had multiple times, and fooled around with another before her. But I'm forever alone now, and I hate kids anyway.

Be a bro and share Majikoi with your kid at least.
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>>168650974

Wife, 12 year old kid, house in Spring Hill, TN. 2 dogs, 1 cat, and a gopher snake. Stopped counting fuckbuddies around my mid-20's because really, who cares? 37 years old, regional market admin manager for office electronics company.

And this is my VNDB list. 1 of 3 pages.

Normie mutiny imo
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>>168650974
I read VNs with my girlfriend. It's pretty comfy.
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>>168624318
>funded in like 6 hours

you people are full of hot air, i guess.
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>>168650516
I REEE'd pretty hard too, it was arousing but annoying, i got something between a shameboner and a hateboner from those scenes and no i didnt fap to them. Though might go back and do so, its up in the air rn
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>>168651270
Prove it.
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>>168624318
wait so they are doing KS's for the other parts when the first one is not even released?
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>>168624983
because you idiots keep giving them money? look at that shit going up.
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>>168651321
>having a girlfriend
NORMIES GET >>>/OUT/ REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Im so lonely
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i fapped at least 5 times
am i gay?
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>>168624318
So why do people support Sekai again?
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what the FUCK is wrong with japanese school children

like I know this shit is exaggerated for the purposes of storytelling, but still
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>>168651619
it just werks
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>>168651429
>Prove it.

Not sure how you want me to do that? Here's me, /vn/, the snake cage (geckos on top) and my old man socks& crocks. My ass if you think I'm getting off the couch for some dude on 4chan, though.

You can see Kindred Spirits on the task bar there if you look closely.
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>>168651619

You never had bullying at your school?
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>>168651619
I doubt thats an exageration, honestly, sounds plausible from what we see from japanese media. Side note, why doesnt anyone adress the fact that Miyako's obsession with yamato is basically her imprinting on him?
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>>168651762
>standard 4chan CSS
Normalfag please
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>>168651762
>tfw there's a genuine normie adult on /vn/

I'm not sure how to feel about this. Please never post here again.
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>>168651931

I understand. My apologies.
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>>168651619
god damn that scene hit me hard back when i first read it.
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>>168651704
Higanbana was alright
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>>168651931
>tfw there's a bunch of fags using "normie" on /vn/
Please never post here again.
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>>168651619
You realize things like this happen in US as well, right? There was a freshman? who showed her tits to a guy who went to her school over webcam and he ended up posting it everywhere and she was bullied to the point she killed herself.

Not exactly uncommon. Not like teachers can do anything about it and any students that stand up for themselves end up receiving a greater punishment than the bully, usually expulsion.
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>>168651847
Never to this point

I mean, at this point it's not bullying, it's basically abuse

>>168651852
what the fuck is wrong with japan, seriously
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>>168651847
>all those stories about bullying in Japanese high schools
>can never relate since there never was any bullying in my class

feels weird tbqh
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>tfw just finished shiziru's route in rewrite
i-it's raining

best route yet
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>>168650516
i liked it as i didn't expect the game to take that turn at all, and it was hot as shit.
i took it as form of "elegant exit" : the family girls are no longer heroines and the most "physical" ones push it to the next level.
it makes a good introduction to the sequels too
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>>168652149
>>168651619
>>168652176
Kids are fuckin brutal in the states. Not sure about the other three supposedly english-speaking countries but bullying, racism, lotta swears, and all-around shitters exist.

I got told by some roly poly fucker in 8th grade after he saved my ass from drowning that he "should have let me drown"

I also has a similarly built, but not as much of an asshole kid admit that he initially was friendly to me because he had the whole school shooter scenario go through his head with me as the star, but after junior year thought I was a pretty chill guy.
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>>168652149

Most of this gets hushed up. You don't hear 1/1000th of the stuff that happens in schools. It never makes it to the press because of minors and confidentiality and junk.

But you know how many of these people have phones and tablets and laptops with cameras. They still have to change for gym class, too.

Use your imagination.

t. former teacher
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>>168652492

>best route in rewrite
>winning special olympics

same
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Ok im watching a stream right now and the guy is about to play a dating sim/vn(i honestly dont know which one it is) about refrigerators. Im in shock, how is this a thing and who actually buys it(assuming its not free)
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>>168652745

there is one about birds dating that is translated. i forgot the name of it.
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>>168652745
>watching someone read a VN
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>>168652745
that's OELVN
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>>168652824
Hatofu boyfriend and im pretty sure thats like a meme vn, how someone actually got the idea and took the time to turn it into reality is almost inspiring in its retardedness.
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what a champ though
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>>168653159
>33
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>>168653159

In a row?
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>>168652745
OELVN garbage
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>>168653159
That must be a lot of viagra.
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>>168654093
It's just the power of love.
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>>168651578

What VN is this? I've been wanting to branch into the chickswithdicks genre.
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>lazily played over half a year
>finally able to play main girl's route
>english patch still not released anyway
It was NOT worth it, outside of Ochiba's route
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Aroduc's official not working on Baldr Sky for at least two projects.

Sekai Project tantrum incoming.
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>>168655146
school idol qt cool.
I can't get over how adorable the protagonist is.
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>>168655146
These aren't chicks with dicks, just regular girly boys.
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>>168655771

okay, I'm gonna have to ask what the difference is. I'm new to this.
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>>168655771

so they act like dudes in drag, and not girls with a feminine penis?
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Who is your ghost waifu
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>>168656004
instead of being magically physiologically female in all cases except for having male genitalia (commonly referred to as futa), they are just boys who dress up like girls (commonly referred to as trap).

I can't stand futa but I love traps.
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>>168568301
Can you not fuck with the OP? Retard.
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>>168656004
They're literal gay boys dressed as girls, they have dicks and balls, no vagina. Futanari on the other hand are girls who on top of having a vagina also have a dick, usually growing out from where the clitoris is located and no balls but of course there are exceptions.
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>>168568349
Perfection. Filename perfectly describes her in /vn/'s VN of the year for 2016.
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>>168656004
While it may seem like a small difference, chicks with dicks and girly boys are worlds apart from a fetish standpoint, they simply aren't comparable.
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>>168656157
what is this and is it translated?
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>>168656485
gee I wonder if the filename could have something to do with the source of that picture. Also If only there was some kind of search engine that you could use to browse webpages relevant to certain keywords you enter on it.

Technology just isn't there yet.
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>>168656364
>>168656187
>>168656158

I just don't know what to make of that. I want girls that have penises. Extremely feminine in looks and mannerisms to the point you'd never know they had a penis. I don't care how the penis came to be there (whether born with it, or science experiment gone wrong, or whatever). Just not some truck driver in a dress. They gotta look and act completely female for it to get my interest. Is that girly boys?
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>>168656692
You want regular futanari, while traps could appeal to you, it's not uncommon for them to still consider themselves boys and it's pretty common for them to have been coerced into dressing up/acting as a girl. Dunno if that's the case with that VN.
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>>168656887

Thanks for the info. I appreciate it.
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>>168656887

can you recommend something to start with? a futanari moege or something? is there one or two that always get mentioned when the subject comes up?
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>>168656692
If you're fine with them being biologically male, but looking and acting female, then it might actually be your thing. Futa is similar, but I think their use is primarily to allow for a male role in an otherwise female dominated story... ie: having full penetration sex when all characters are girls. Futa's are generally aside from the penis fully female (breasts, usually a vagina), but there have been many internet battles waged over whether it's acceptable for futas to have balls, or if that's just gay.
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>>168655648
>school idol qt cool
can't resist the giggling, that title.
so how gay is it actually ? like half-half or what.
asking for a friend
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>>168657292
>there have been many internet battles waged over whether it's acceptable for futas to have balls, or if that's just gay.

Only after my 23 years on the internet, can I read a comment like this and not even blink. Because it really is just not surprising at all. My parents would shit themselves after reading it.
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>>168657167
It's a niche within a niche so there's not a lot to choose from, translated ones that is.

Try Rondo Duo
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>>168657393
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>>168657526

i don't think I've ever seen a normal moege with a futa added in the mix. and I've played an enormous amount of moege. disappointing
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>>168657167
https://vndb.org/v/all?q=;fil=tag_inc-413.tagspoil-0.lang-en;rfil=;o=d;s=rating
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>>168657393
Its full out gay.
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>>168657716

Hohoho excellent
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>>168657663
Because a lot of people don't like it/find it gay so the ones that do pander to futa fans don't half-ass it and go full gay. I think Musumaker has a casual trap thrown in the mix.
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phew, i almost thought someone wouldn't tell me that. better late then never i guess
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>>168657750
and there he was willing to make some concessions for the sake of open-mindedness.
dayum
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>am in the credits for the agave route
wew lad. despite the sex scenes that was pretty damn good. i hope S is more of the same.

according to the S walk through there's no Angel route. Sad.
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>>168657393
on the one hand, the plot (nonexistent as it is) acknowledges that the two traps are definitely biologically males.

on the other hand, they talk like girls, act like girls, and look exactly like girls, so take from that what you will.
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Man, I'm gonna have to start reading more yuri. This is really unexpectedly sweet. It has great writing and character construction. The characters are really believable and well thought out. Their reactions to situations are actually believable and don't require you to suspend disbelief. Even the h-scenes are written beautifully, instead of just garbled gibberish that reads more like someone trying to beatbox dubstep. Not bad at all.

Bonus for main route teacher/student romance.
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>>168660836
That's probably one of the few actually good yuri VNs, they're usually trash. Also holy shit fucking crop correctly or get sharex
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>>168660836
get out
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>>168660836
Alt + Print Screen will take a screenshot of just the window you're focused on.
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>>168660836
>yuri
fuck off
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>>168661015
>Also holy shit fucking crop correctly or get sharex

ctrl+print screen, paintshop pro 5 straight outta the 90s. snip snip. save as. Get out of here with your lazy ass apps and use your computer like a man.

>"b-b-but the border isn't straight"

.... said the future homosex gimpsuit mascot of Interior Design Consultants of San Francisco.

My almonds ... nigga, you don't want want to know about my almonds.
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>>168661275

Shortcut is disabled in the registry because of a work program. Long story.It's not big deal. I don't mind snipping. And others can get over it.
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>>168651270
>gave Euphoria a 5
plebian among plebians
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>>168657393
pretty fucking gay, but hey I can deny these healthy faps im getting out of it. Something about the riskque is doing it for me.
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>>168662345
>riskque
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>>168651578
I'd probably try getting into this if the MC wasn't a trap himself I can't play games where the MC is female either because I can't self-insert
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>>168662345
he was more hoping for some MMF action or something, like trapshit slipping a little towards gayshit.
guess there isn't much for people who like healthy ambiguity
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>>168663186
yes, i much prefer male on trap, but beggars can't be choosers and this fetish is pretty scarce
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>>168663186

Have you tried just not self-inserting?
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>gayfags

get out of my general
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>>168663545
No.

I like boys, and if you don't like that, too fucking bad.
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>>168568541
must be nice, playing majikoi for the first time
>tfw stuck waiting for A-3 translations
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>>168663313
No, there is no enjoyment to be had without immersion.
>>168663545
It's mangagay's fault that they keep localizing fagshit
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>>168663693

You can be immersed in something without self-inserting, but okay. Each to their own.
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>>168663794
t. butthurt female
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>>168663679
>tfw those guys still have dozens of hours ahead
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>>168661741

>criticizes someone's rank of a VN
>posts picture from the anime

Actually, I never saw the anime. But I think I heard people say it was better and more cohesive.
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>>168663545
I dunno man, I love everything about the female body and their tropes, but something about a trap gets me off harder than anything. And its not the penus.
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>>168664262
The OVA was good, but it wasn't better than the VN. Just posted that particular animation cause I liked it and it doesn't make you any less of a pleb.
>rated the shitty Bible Black "sequel" higher than euphoria
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>>168663545
Just wait anon, a few days ago somebody posted that they had finished a translation of https://vndb.org/v13566 and were moving to editing

As a translated visual novel with patch impending, it is now approved /vn/ material.
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If you like 3D traps you're a faggot. If you like the 2D ones only you're only kinda gay because they look exactly like other generic anime girls only they have a dick
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>>168664620

chicks with dicks are perfection. mind of a man, body of a woman (well, plus a penis).

just today i was thinking about how my wife's side of the family - 4 women - all spout off feminist bullshit about being strong, independent women and yet they will spend 4 seconds asking me to do something (pass the salt, for example) instead of spending 1 seconds doing it themselves. every 5 minutes they're asking me to do some menial bullshit, then talk about how men are holding them down. women are trash.
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>>168664849
>that title

I think we can go longer
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>>168664693

It's no big deal. We all like different things. I'm not offended or anything. It's been a really long time since I read most of these VNs. I can't always remember what my beef was with them. I don't know why I rated Euphoria so low (or Bible Black higher), so I can't really say anything.
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>>168664849
>traps, cuckoldry, fat spic looking guy
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>>168664693
I liked the scene in the bible black sequel where he fucked the girl up the ass with a gun
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>>168664849

>Netorare Otoko no Ko ~Ore no Osananajimi no Mujaki na Otoko no Ko ga Masaka Sobou na Taiiku Kyoushi ni Yowami o Nigirarete Choukyou Sarete Itsu no Ma ni ka Kairaku ni Oborete Aheahe Double Peace de Video Satsuei Sarete Yorokondeita Da Nante!!~

I had to check the text zoom in browser because I thought it was blowing shit up. Nope. It's just the longest title I've ever seen on VNDB.
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>>168665084
You're supposed to keep arguing and start a flame war you cuck. How new are you?
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>>168664849
what has science done
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>>168665303

My bad. Here, let's start a new one so I can try again. Pick one from page 3.
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>Unironically gayfags

What the fuck happened in the last decade?
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>>168665427
You gave the Shuffle sequel the same rating as Rewrite and Swan Song? Really? Really!
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>>168664849
You can't be serious.
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>>168665303
No fuck you, hes of the new breed we need more of in this general.
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>>168665515
People were always gay, it's just that anonymous imageboards enabled them to be degenerates about it.
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>>168665539

Giving Rewrite an 8 was a courtesy reacharound. I did that because I felt like I could understand why someone else would like it, though I thought it was shit.

And that Shuffle sequel was really good. That whole series was. Surprisingly, the anime was top knotch, too, since they didn't do a bullshit harem ending. Good series all around.

Swan Song ... well, I have a weakness for special needs kids. The story pissed me off because they never explain what the cause of the major catastrophe was, but it was still pretty good.
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>>168665427
>YMK
>4
fucking normies, I bet you never got bullied in school
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>>168665734
>I gave it a good rating because I could understand why other people would like it even if I didn't enjoy it myself

are you real
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>>168665819

YMK was shit.


>girl getting gangraped on rooftop
>she's cool with that
>whole school knows, but no one minds
>teachers know, but whatever, do nothing
>teachers too scared of students
>girl getting violently bullied right in front of teacher
>nonono teacher is too scared, gotta ignore it.

That entire VN was absolutely unbelievable in every aspect. I'm all for fantasy and junk, but it took itself too seriously to be able to use fantasy as an excuse for the ENORMOUS plot holes.
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>>168665893

That's just Key writing style. It's Stephen-King'd. Blown up and dragged out with a gazillion unnecessary lines and scenes. Some people like that kind of writing, otherwise Stephen King wouldn't be so popular. I fucking hate it and wish writers would stay on topic.
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>>168666146
>implying The Stand, The Gunslinger, The Drawing of the Three, The Waste Lands, and Wolves of the Calla aren't all GOAT
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>snk
>5
>yin-yang
>7
to be honest, you're not that bad-
>ymk
>4
die
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>>168666439
YMK was shit, deal with it.
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>>168666057
well whatever, her route was dumb anyway. that doesn't mean the vn was bad.
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>>168666057
That's actually pretty realistic for jap bullying.

You grew up in the american educational system, so Aeka not shooting up the school immediately just isn't relateable.
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>>168666643
It had shit pacing which ruined the whole thing. The routes explored interesting features but it needed a lot more in each route.
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>>168666764
i was on the edge of my seat for a good chunk of the mizuki route. i didn't have any problems with pacing.
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>>168666920
That's because you're too fat to fit in a chair.
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>>168666764
>features

sorry im drunk. I meant themes.
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So how about them X-change games, then?
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>>168667478
Most of them are pretty bad to be honest. I got a few faps in back in the day, but there's better stuff out there now.
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>>168667478
I've played one, the one with the red-headed protag. It was okay.
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>>168667460
do you beat your wife when you're drunk
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>>168667478
looked like some disguised yuri/otome shit to me.
was i wrong ?
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>>168667613
>wife

Yeah my wife...ahaha
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>>168665427
>YMK
>4
My nig. I hope you get a nice blowjob from your wife.
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>>168660836
Read Katahane
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>>168661741
That looks nice. Does it do the VN any justice?
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>>168668570
Play it faggot. The plot is decent too unironically
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>>168668753
Yeah it's on my read list, though I'll skip all the scat CGs, fuck that. I just liked how nice the girl looked there. Nice tits and legs.
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>>168668570
The best way to experience the story would be the read the vn and then watch the ending to episode 5 of the ova.
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>>168668935
You can disable the scat in the options. The text will still appear, but without the CGs. I'd recommend you bear through them for the whole experience, no matter how disgusting they may be.
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>>168668570
I just finished euphoria. I mean it's full of shit in a literal sense, but it's really quite good. I thought it was gonna be a nukige until I finished the common route and then I realized there was more to it. I still have a few questions about it, but whatever. I think the writer for Nemu's route was really quite amazing and played my emotional strings exactly how he wanted to play them.
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>>168669081
>>168669018
>>168669109
Sounds very interesting desu. I'm finishing my feel good VN before that though.
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>>168669375
Play the Nemu route last. (it also unlocks the true route after you finish it)
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>>168669526
>>168669375
If you were like me, you couldn't help but try to bully Nemu first
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>>168669719
Yep. And it ruined the other routes for me because after finishing Nemu's route, I went straight for the true one. holy shit I went from wanting to strangle the fuck out of that smug bitch to almost crying over her at the end
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>>168670096
Same I can't remember the last time a vn made me do a complete 180 on a character, what a ride it was. Nemu the best.
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>>168665297
I was scrolling past quickly and for a second I thought the title was 'Netorare Koichoco' and I was like WANT.
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>mfw I never finished euphoria so I still hate Nemu

I'm fine with this honestly, I enjoy hating her
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When is the next big moege release happening?

Suki Suki?
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>>168670971
Hatsukoi 1/1
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>>168670592
for me it was Osadai during Ran's route. I loved her during the common and all other routes, but her own route completely ruined her and the entire theme of the vn.
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>>168670947
you don't lose much honeslty, i liked it and all but everything is rushed as shit towards the end.
i would've gladly exchanged one or two routes for a true route without this
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>>168670096
true story. i couldn't figure out what i was doing wrong on the true route because I refused to use a guide for some reason, but I got stuck and couldn't advance. So I ended up finishing most of the rest of the VN while being stuck with kaede wandering endlessly in the white rooms in the true route. I managed to clear it all without a guide though.

Anyway since we're talking about euphoria, what do you guys think about Keisuke actually being a cruel sadist? as long as he is following nemu's script, he is evil. But as soon as he goes off the tracks, it all just magically disappears. we know the neckbands can manipulate emotions, so I suspect he was just being manipulated.

Also, were you actually fucking the real kaede in the main route? did everything actually happen? I mean some of it had to happen physically (like strangling nemu) but some of it was a construction, right?
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>>168666748

Not that guy, but that's still just the school environment. You're saying the police would not be remotely interested in a 9th grader getting gangraped on the school rooftop with a dozen witnesses and accomplices? They'd be too scared to intervene with the bullies? I'm just not buying it.

Fuck YMK.
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>>168670971
Seeing as SP probably wont release a damn thing until the summer, zero info on Wagahigh/SakuSaku; It'll likely be SukiSuki or Dal Segno.
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>>168670592

this happens alot to me when I read a VN, then watch the anime.

Like the Nemu from Da Capo. She was fine in the VN, but there were riots on forums when the anime dropped her for 5 episodes then brought her back. Because she was hated so much, people were celebrating in the streets when they removed her from the anime (said she went to school somewhere overseas)

KoiChoco's Chisato was another one. She was adorably jealous in one, total fucking cunt in another.
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>>168671612
It could be that he actually is a bit sadistic deep down (I know I am, so I could relate), and that whole game was made to exploit this

I think he actually fucked her because she seemed genuinely pissed off at him when she revealed her true personality
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new thread?
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>>168672684
In 4 posts
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Especially > Asahi kimi yumemishi no > Beautiful flower
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>>168672351
haah. well that second one is a real fucker to think about, i mean it's no wonder kaede hates keisuke that much by the end of it all. i have to wonder about that wager kaede and nemu made, though. it doesn't make sense, it seemed like kaede had everything she wanted by the end of that first hunger games scenario they made up. i guess she did have ulterior motives though. i really wish they would have put more effort in the true route. it could have been twice as long, easily.
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>>168673103
>>168673103
>>168673103

New thread
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Support SP's new KS guys
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